Since you requested it, here's the whole segment. Didn't actually intend to speedrun it but only realized at the end that it was pretty quick. I don't actually expect many of you to watch the whole thing, so here's a few timestamps that might be worth watching; 35:45 -157k Game, shows why you ALWAYS create crossfires, especially vs Atlanta 01:02:39 - Many times during the games you will see me intentionally give broadside to BBs, we call it "the technology", it means abusing thin cruiser armor by giving flat broadside to force overpens instead of pens/citadels as the shells don't have time to arm or don't pen enough armor. I explain it better after the game. 02:08:03 - 161k Game, Should've been a loss honestly, enemy team had heavy "win harder" mentality.
@@Marios-my1pw Flint is easier to play, less positional requirements because of the smoke. Atlanta is stronger. DDs, especially Bronze DDs, are very poor at dealing with radar, it also does more damage as it has more guns. Atlanta does however require good position as openly trading is very punishing for the ship.
That Scharnhorst in the last game was actually a gigachad. He pushed a flank alone, somehow managed to kill the dd by himself, and then proceeded to steamroll the entire enemy team. Maybe German bb players have a method to their madness
Just had a game now where our bismarck and Alabama didnt get out of spawn they basicly went backwards while enemy bismarck and mass is close to our spawn lmao the f am i supposed to do with that.
I put this video on one of my monitors while I was doing work-from-home on my main one. Thank you for the couple hour company Flamu, it was quite enjoyable!
Man do I love watching Flamu dominate, but man, would I hate to be one of his teammates. Would be very stressful having quick commands constantly blasted in your ear.
I'm terrible with this thing, but nothing beats filling the sky with so much hot rain that my guns never stop firing. Absolutely one of my favorite ships for sheer fun factor. That's probably why I'm terrible, actually.
i mean his rant on Radar not seeing subs its kinda BS. Sonar would detect a sub without issue, however Radar would only give you a very very small cross section if a periscope was above the water line. But the shared hatred is real
@@12G_Pyro radar I can understand if the submarine is on the surface. Lets not kid ourselves and think the game is in anyway realistic of course, and I know I'm preaching to the choir here. However, the fact that Hydro acoustic search is unable to detect submarines beyond a certain depth and has such short range is just beyond dented IMO.
Every minute of this was enjoyable. Impressive, making up for teammate incompetence, punishing the animals. Some great lessons in this video for better CL gameplay. I also agree with those who commented about playing this while working. Fantastic.
Flamu will complain that his team mates won't pay attention to his 5000 toxic pings, but won't bother to respond to their attempts at teamwork. Mans plays this like its an RTS.
you know, i haven't played the game more than 5-6 years now. but i've been following you and enjoying watching you play, and honestly can say I like the game (in your hands). keep up the great work, and more speed runs please!
Played ranked on sea server, Okinawa was the map, red team had a Atlanta and Belfast, I thought they are dangerous but in open water they can be dealt with, I suggested we take the south cap, the plan was simple, use their range against them, if we stayed wide we could stealth cap centre and force them out of the cover of the central Island and fight them at their weakest position, but noooo, potato BB's... hold W and sail right into the death box... worst is after 2 battleships pushed I had to support them and we all died, man we didn't even need to be in their playground.
You did not hallucinate. The Sinop was firing HE. I couldn't see what health it was on, and it looked like it was nose in toward the Duke (which remarkably fired AP at it) so I can only guess that the Heinrich or Lyon were able to loop a volley into its broadside, which was facing in their direction.
Atlanta is one of my favorite American ships, something about hurling HE into space from behind an island and chipping away at bbs with no counter play is so funny to me grinding out to the jinan right now. about to unlock the chumpon which is like the temu Atlanta with better torps. Thanks flamu for the content as always!
Atlanta was my favorite and most played ship before the AA rework and the IFHE nerf. I live in Atlanta, Ga, so it was dear to me, have not touched it in years, it is just frustrating to die to 2 plane squadrons with ZERO ability to defend yourself or counter.
Oh boy my adventure in the bronze league plague by CV in Asia GUARANTEED, especially that new free T6 Independence from rank 10 all the way to rank 1 roamed by that fucking CV and fighting them with my Izmail is a truly painful experience.
@Flamuu Its is on my bucket list to go to Europe again and this time to Meet you and have coffee. I really think you and I think a lot a like although you are a much better player. I do have a 60% win rate in the ATL with over 200 games. Love that boat and I love watching you play I always learn so much. What server is this that you get to mix tiers for ranked?
I'm surprised you would argue with me about WoWS mechanics (actually I'm not, people on YT do this all the time). A ship in the cap takes a "share" of the cap contribution. If one ship sits there alone, he caps in 60s in domination. If 2 ships sit in the cap they cap in 40s, the capture progress is split among both. If however one of the ships is continually reset, he "steals" some of the contribution from the untouched ship and gets it reset, which slows down the progress for both. A TL;DR is, having a second ship that is under steady fire enter a capture point will increase the time it takes for the first ship to cap by around 33%. I even found you an old graph about this from reddit from 4 years ago; www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/cz19r6/caps_and_resets_investigation_part_2_cap_times/?share_id=GKz1Gf17NxyheM3-FK4MF In this case though, the Sinop luckily didn't enter early enough to delay me much, and he only got shot once since the secondaries couldn't reach him, otherwise he would have actively been delaying me.
@@Flamuu thank you for taking the time to respond. I didn't know about the study, but if you take a closer look at the cap time I think you'll see that someone should reinvestigate that mechanic. Until Sinop entered the cap, you were set to capture a fraction of a second before the game clock ticked from 14.59 to 14.58. Please go to 1:03:40. With 15.15 left on the clock, the cap timer drops from 17 seconds down to 10 seconds, indicating the moment when Sinop enters the cap. This means that on your own, the cap would be taken at around 14.58 without assistance or 15.05 with assistance. The cap was taken at 14.59, meaning his presence had either zero effect or it reduced the cap time by a trivial amount. But no, he did not make the cap take any longer than if he hadn't entered it at all. I almost didn't comment because I didn't want to tell you were wrong about something in a game that you have immeasurably more experience in than me. Because just going by the timer, he may not have helped but he did not delay.
Is DHL awful everywhere? Over here they got my package stuck in customs for two weeks i only discovered this chasing it up myself, i think they then told me how to resolve it, and i got all the other companies sorted on that day (the company i ordered from and the shipping company who hired dhl.. WHY!!?) and also contacted the customs office who were the biggest TWATS on earth and only wanted stuff from DHL. and were like "oh we aren't tracking we can't tell where your package is" while they fucking hold my package.. Took another full week for DHL to get it sorted either them or customs fucked around, but DHL took an extra few days to get back to me, so i assume a mix. ARAMEX in New Zealand is also really awful, they drop things in letter boxes with sig required, and seem to have weaseled more market share by buying out another company while employing the worst couriers i've ever encountered. and they're used by NZ's EBAY like network so no matter how shit they'll always have work.. its complete trash.
Ranked is basically identically poor on every server, trying to apply some sort of server superiority is hilarious to me. During the Santa crates I farmed rewards by playing 61 different T7 and T8 ships I owned in EU Bronze and Silver, I averaged 81% winrate despite playing objectively awful ships and just having a laugh. i.imgur.com/L8hTvNt.jpeg The idea that average EU or NA ranked players are somehow superior is very funny to me.
Since you requested it, here's the whole segment. Didn't actually intend to speedrun it but only realized at the end that it was pretty quick. I don't actually expect many of you to watch the whole thing, so here's a few timestamps that might be worth watching;
35:45 -157k Game, shows why you ALWAYS create crossfires, especially vs Atlanta
01:02:39 - Many times during the games you will see me intentionally give broadside to BBs, we call it "the technology", it means abusing thin cruiser armor by giving flat broadside to force overpens instead of pens/citadels as the shells don't have time to arm or don't pen enough armor. I explain it better after the game.
02:08:03 - 161k Game, Should've been a loss honestly, enemy team had heavy "win harder" mentality.
Is Atlanta or Flint better for this job, got both, which would you recommend?
@@Marios-my1pw Flint is easier to play, less positional requirements because of the smoke. Atlanta is stronger. DDs, especially Bronze DDs, are very poor at dealing with radar, it also does more damage as it has more guns. Atlanta does however require good position as openly trading is very punishing for the ship.
Send Win Harder game to Jingles for his "Game of Throws" series. Congrats, that was fun to watch.
@@Flamuu would you suggest this build for random battles as well?
That Scharnhorst in the last game was actually a gigachad. He pushed a flank alone, somehow managed to kill the dd by himself, and then proceeded to steamroll the entire enemy team. Maybe German bb players have a method to their madness
The method is press w and watch out for torpedos
Not watch it all, what? this is better than 2 hours of actual game play, and I can do it while getting work done.
This was therapy to watch a master at work.
GJ streamer guy
Now, I'm going back to my "2 wins 3 loses" formula
1 win 5 losses with the teams i get.
@@FrostBeam009 skill issue
Try pressing "to battle" button better
@@Gun-EZ lmao yea right xD
Just had a game now where our bismarck and Alabama didnt get out of spawn they basicly went backwards while enemy bismarck and mass is close to our spawn lmao the f am i supposed to do with that.
I put this video on one of my monitors while I was doing work-from-home on my main one. Thank you for the couple hour company Flamu, it was quite enjoyable!
Man do I love watching Flamu dominate, but man, would I hate to be one of his teammates. Would be very stressful having quick commands constantly blasted in your ear.
Flolo: Light cruisers are so power crept it's not even funny
Also Flolo: how I ranked out in 10 games
Thats why he plays that shit in ranked...in random not so funny playing that crap.
I'm terrible with this thing, but nothing beats filling the sky with so much hot rain that my guns never stop firing. Absolutely one of my favorite ships for sheer fun factor.
That's probably why I'm terrible, actually.
The madlad actually uploaded the whole thing 😂
Gotta love flolo's seething hatred for subs 😂
i mean his rant on Radar not seeing subs its kinda BS. Sonar would detect a sub without issue, however Radar would only give you a very very small cross section if a periscope was above the water line. But the shared hatred is real
@@12G_Pyro radar I can understand if the submarine is on the surface. Lets not kid ourselves and think the game is in anyway realistic of course, and I know I'm preaching to the choir here. However, the fact that Hydro acoustic search is unable to detect submarines beyond a certain depth and has such short range is just beyond dented IMO.
Every minute of this was enjoyable. Impressive, making up for teammate incompetence, punishing the animals. Some great lessons in this video for better CL gameplay. I also agree with those who commented about playing this while working. Fantastic.
Making up for the clips that, while awesome, are too short. So now 2h of uninterrupted Flamu. 🎉
1:22:05 'what is this animal doing'
well, at least he was offering to smoke you up and then waiting for the response a minute ago.
Flamu will complain that his team mates won't pay attention to his 5000 toxic pings, but won't bother to respond to their attempts at teamwork. Mans plays this like its an RTS.
100% on board with all Atlanta gameplay - one of my most played ships on Legends because torturing BBs never gets old.
IFHE Atlanta is a beast in t7 ranked, it's insane.
Watched it all. Masterclass!
you know, i haven't played the game more than 5-6 years now. but i've been following you and enjoying watching you play, and honestly can say I like the game (in your hands). keep up the great work, and more speed runs please!
This is my absolute favorite ship. Great stories about her in a few books I have read.
Played ranked on sea server, Okinawa was the map, red team had a Atlanta and Belfast, I thought they are dangerous but in open water they can be dealt with, I suggested we take the south cap, the plan was simple, use their range against them, if we stayed wide we could stealth cap centre and force them out of the cover of the central Island and fight them at their weakest position, but noooo, potato BB's... hold W and sail right into the death box... worst is after 2 battleships pushed I had to support them and we all died, man we didn't even need to be in their playground.
You did not hallucinate. The Sinop was firing HE. I couldn't see what health it was on, and it looked like it was nose in toward the Duke (which remarkably fired AP at it) so I can only guess that the Heinrich or Lyon were able to loop a volley into its broadside, which was facing in their direction.
Atlanta is one of my favorite American ships, something about hurling HE into space from behind an island and chipping away at bbs with no counter play is so funny to me grinding out to the jinan right now. about to unlock the chumpon which is like the temu Atlanta with better torps. Thanks flamu for the content as always!
Criminal that the ship doesnt just GET Def AA as a separate slot.
Atlanta was my favorite and most played ship before the AA rework and the IFHE nerf. I live in Atlanta, Ga, so it was dear to me, have not touched it in years, it is just frustrating to die to 2 plane squadrons with ZERO ability to defend yourself or counter.
Good job. The potato meal exceeds the expectations.
Oh boy my adventure in the bronze league plague by CV in Asia GUARANTEED, especially that new free T6 Independence from rank 10 all the way to rank 1 roamed by that fucking CV and fighting them with my Izmail is a truly painful experience.
Too good to get the reward KEKW
Professor Flolo, thank you for this 2hrs seminar ❤
Good old times when a single Atlanta created a no flight zone
How are you fielding tier 7s in ranked? I thought bronze was tier 6 only this season?
CIS server is run by Lesta so their ranked seasons are also different.
Super hyped for this!
Gong
*gong*
1:04:01 Wows in a nutshell.
How lucky where you regarding CV/Sub in the games?
This was a nice long youtube showing realy how good you are and how poor some of the teams are
when you get the rare ranked seasons with t6-7 the atlanta is just so f-ing strong.
More of this please!
just going full stream?
okay, fine.
I miss atlanta so much pre carrier.
Can anyone explain the weird CV in the first game? I'm not up to date with the CIS server.
Have to admit I love my 'lanta
@Flamuu Its is on my bucket list to go to Europe again and this time to Meet you and have coffee. I really think you and I think a lot a like although you are a much better player. I do have a 60% win rate in the ATL with over 200 games. Love that boat and I love watching you play I always learn so much. What server is this that you get to mix tiers for ranked?
for the algorithm
The only sad bit about this is missing out on the stream music.
PepegaGun
Honestly I think the game is just better at the mid to lower tiers
I got all excited because I own the Alabama....but it's not the Atlanta. :(
I always assumed the server with the better ping was the server i should play on... SEA... :(
What's this spotted highlight ? New feature or mod ?
What is the mod called on the mini map outline
pease help me how t buy that shp i love it, Atlanta VII
imagine how overpowered AA is in this meta when you decide to use 3 uses of hydro instead of unlimited def AA on a AA made ship. trully special moment
is atlanta just like a US DD just bigger and with radar?
With triple or quadruple the firepower.
Licking monitor, drooling, eating crayons? Sounds like US Marine.
You rank out in 2 1/2 hours I can’t get the three wins and four on NA
2.5h off dakka? Sign me up.
gamer moment
❤FUCKYES❤
Arghh driving me mad zooming in and out fast :(
Make the Same for good league please
The friendly Sinop didn't delay you capping. That's not possible. I'm surprised you don't know how it works.
I'm surprised you would argue with me about WoWS mechanics (actually I'm not, people on YT do this all the time). A ship in the cap takes a "share" of the cap contribution. If one ship sits there alone, he caps in 60s in domination. If 2 ships sit in the cap they cap in 40s, the capture progress is split among both. If however one of the ships is continually reset, he "steals" some of the contribution from the untouched ship and gets it reset, which slows down the progress for both. A TL;DR is, having a second ship that is under steady fire enter a capture point will increase the time it takes for the first ship to cap by around 33%. I even found you an old graph about this from reddit from 4 years ago; www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/cz19r6/caps_and_resets_investigation_part_2_cap_times/?share_id=GKz1Gf17NxyheM3-FK4MF
In this case though, the Sinop luckily didn't enter early enough to delay me much, and he only got shot once since the secondaries couldn't reach him, otherwise he would have actively been delaying me.
@@Flamuu thank you for taking the time to respond. I didn't know about the study, but if you take a closer look at the cap time I think you'll see that someone should reinvestigate that mechanic.
Until Sinop entered the cap, you were set to capture a fraction of a second before the game clock ticked from 14.59 to 14.58. Please go to 1:03:40. With 15.15 left on the clock, the cap timer drops from 17 seconds down to 10 seconds, indicating the moment when Sinop enters the cap. This means that on your own, the cap would be taken at around 14.58 without assistance or 15.05 with assistance. The cap was taken at 14.59, meaning his presence had either zero effect or it reduced the cap time by a trivial amount. But no, he did not make the cap take any longer than if he hadn't entered it at all.
I almost didn't comment because I didn't want to tell you were wrong about something in a game that you have immeasurably more experience in than me. Because just going by the timer, he may not have helped but he did not delay.
Russian bias so strong that they don't even have to play the same garbage low tiers as everyone else for ranked? Wild.
Wargaming should hire you to to stop making stupid shit.
Is DHL awful everywhere?
Over here they got my package stuck in customs for two weeks i only discovered this chasing it up myself, i think they then told me how to resolve it, and i got all the other companies sorted on that day (the company i ordered from and the shipping company who hired dhl.. WHY!!?) and also contacted the customs office who were the biggest TWATS on earth and only wanted stuff from DHL. and were like "oh we aren't tracking we can't tell where your package is" while they fucking hold my package..
Took another full week for DHL to get it sorted either them or customs fucked around, but DHL took an extra few days to get back to me, so i assume a mix.
ARAMEX in New Zealand is also really awful, they drop things in letter boxes with sig required, and seem to have weaseled more market share by buying out another company while employing the worst couriers i've ever encountered.
and they're used by NZ's EBAY like network so no matter how shit they'll always have work.. its complete trash.
Spot with impunity... A fucking DD can do the same, flolo.
Average Russian players.
Ranked is basically identically poor on every server, trying to apply some sort of server superiority is hilarious to me. During the Santa crates I farmed rewards by playing 61 different T7 and T8 ships I owned in EU Bronze and Silver, I averaged 81% winrate despite playing objectively awful ships and just having a laugh. i.imgur.com/L8hTvNt.jpeg
The idea that average EU or NA ranked players are somehow superior is very funny to me.
@@Flamuu Yep i agree with you including in Asia server also.
atlanta is strong in tier 9 fight...
Good job. The potato meal exceeds the expectations.