CV Viewer Replay - How Can You Defend This?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2023
- Today my viewers got to send in a bunch of replays on stream, so of course some troll instantly sent in their Nakhimov replay. It's funny, but also baffling to watch, because out there are actual human beings who defend this and pretend it's balanced.
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The fact that you can rack up over 200k spotting damage without even trying, just by farming whatever ship you feel like, really sums up this class. How on earth are there actual human beings out there that think this is balanced, were they dropped on their head as children?
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People is not hating CV for how strong it is. People are just hate the one-sided interaction. Same as when everyone run range mod and you can't shoot back. Same as when you know exactly where submarine is but your ASW couldn't reach
Actually Flamu CV has just as shit AA as any other surface ship. Only reason they kill anything is the CAP fighters. Once those run out you screwed. Best squadrons to hit CVS with are Rockets or dive bombers.
Then they allow these things into 7-per-side Ranked.......
I think Defend CV is easy??Don't let the plane catch your boardside.That means the plane is trying to fly over the boardside of ship and ship should already be turning.
Therefore, skilled aircraft carrier players will choose to attack when the enemy's movement is restrained by friendly artillery~
Now imagine a CV player like that coupled with a submarine player who is just as good!!
And you can see now why people are switching off and loosing interest in the game!!
I dont mind loosing or sinking if i screwed up or got beat by the better player!!
When you get stupid unbalanced broken crap like this its just not fun no matter how much Vodka they think you can drink!!!
I remember way back when the CV rework was new, WG kept touting that the rework was meant to make CV's do less damage. So of course, one of the first replays many of us saw was someone breaking the all time CV damage record, doing about 100,000k more damage than the previous RTS system.
RTS is high-risk and high-reward gameplay but WG wants idiot-proof mechanic for CV.
With RTS CV you had the ability to instantly delete somebody with 3 torp squads or 2 AP bomb squads but you had very limited resouces as if your squad was wiped...you couldn't make the same mistake again
What Wee Gee disliked is that both CV's at the start countersniped each other and whichever killed the enemy had the battle practically secured
I loved RTS CVs, they weren't dull, repetitive, required some skill and yoi were a team player.
Replay like this is just ridiculous beyond being funny for how out-of-touch from teamplay and overpowered it is.
@@petrpinc7695 same. I mained CVs and never touched any other class so when i finally played a different class it felt jarring, like i was playing a completely different game.
the old CV system had its flaws but god damn it at least the class required skill. the main problem was the team with the better CV player won a vast majority off the time. the impact they can have now is still about the same but you're 100% ruining a couple people's day every match
@@lost4356 its not WG who want it... its player who asked for it.
This has been a master class in dodging AA. Just fly straight and do your drop. And by the time the Strike hits the next one is already halfway across the map.
Nakimov in a nutshell
Ni try the same tactics with a normal CV
Maybe a German one
@@Thomas-lq1jw perfect CV game with OP (Soviet) ship. Thing is this tactic will not work for most of CVs out there.
@@amaratc exactly
FDR might be able to come close, but even that one won’t have full squads in the end
@@Thomas-lq1jwHak doesn't even need to be in AA range you can almost stealth drop the torpedos
@@Thomas-lq1jw you can see he doesn't play CVs. If he tried them we would stop listening this bitching for the last 4 years or how much did it passed since rework. Just one game in CV is enough to realise that you hurt CVs by shooting it's planes down more so than shooting at it's hull. Because CV without planes is just useless. And it doesn't get infite planes.
If you don't spec into AA then I don't know what people expect. Pure immunity from attacks? Do I get that in GK when I face some DD in smoke over 6km and I don't take fire prevention? Do I get immunity when Kremlin is shooting me in Zao? No I don't, I accept that he has higher caliber and best I can do is mitigate damage, but not completly avoid it. Same is with planes, they are top gun when it comes to caliber.
This was basically a fight between the two CV-players, the rest of the ships were just mobs.
literally
laught at kearsarge
Every CV game is exactly this. Makes the rest of us pointless.....may as well go AFK.
Unfortunate that we don’t have a results screen. Discount Our Hero’s base XP by 50% and compare it to his Fun Police colleague’s XP, and promote the winner to Sargent of Fun Police. We will never know whether he was the better player, or just had a more capable supporting cast of victims.
@@old_guard2431 Shinod is a Unicum player (with something like 58% winrate with CV). What disturb me is that some people would stamp him as "idiot" because he is playing CV where this player is pretty good (all class included).
I remember that I had a long-time standing damage record of 302k damage in Georgia, a ship I greatly love and have almost 100 battles in now, and I had to work my ass off to get that damage. My previous damage record was 298k damage in Worcester, which I got before the IFHE rework. Not that long ago, I managed to beat that 302k damage record with Nakhimov, a ship I barely play and even now still have less than 20 games on...and I smashed that damage record by 41k damage...by parking behind an island and spamming the torp and skip bombers against targets 8-12km away on the other side of the island. I mean, we still lost the battle naturally, but it felt absolutely disgusting, and compared to my previous Georgia record, I am not proud of this record at all.
I think its unfair that CVs have to worry about other CVs. Maybe remove the CV from the map so that they cant get damaged at all.
great idea, u should send it to wg =)
Yes and it takes so long for squadrons to get to their target. Why not have an invisible landing strip in the middle of the map, or on every island where you can choose to launch from.
I love how the aiming reticle makes it look like the torpedos have a really big spread when they are actually more narrow than most ship torpedo spreads.
that's a long-term replay bug if i didn't remember it wrong
Yeah that's a replay bug. Didn't look like that in game
replay bug incorrectly displaying the reticle
As others said, but also, when you first start a torp run with planes the spread of the torps is wide, you have to fly straight at your target for awhile for it to narrow ( unlike other ship types that have fixed torpedo spreads ). Usually that means slowing your planes down ( which also increases time within AA range. )
The only thing stopping the whole WOWS gaming community to strike is that most CV players are so bad at them so they don't actually get near the impact they have the potential of inflicting. If the majority of CV players were near this dudes skill the servers would be empty.
Stuff like this makes me want to pick up legendary mod Kleber and just speed boost into the enemy spawn.
Most of us old players stopped to play this game The thing is, when there are more bad players than good players, playing WoW´s is completely useless in my eyes. You can see how bad the players are, it's meaningless.
Even bad CVs make the game suck because of the spot everything.
@@Bigbacon A lot of things make the game suck from time to time. That's different from making all other classes redundant and obsolete as seen in this match.
@@Bigbacon yeah they just fly and still permaspot :D
This isn't aCV replay flamu, it's a cooking video.
I believe the title is "How to cook potatoes 12 different ways"
well put lmao
Dont forget that spotting will soon (or is it now after the patch) be rewarded as if you dealt damage so if we take a game like this with 300k damage and 200k spotting, you can expect CV to be rewarded as if they did 500k more or less. CV sure gets all the benefit in the world
What a HUGE coincidence. Clown classes being buffed......
im sure they will find a way to get around that. All long time ago cv's where most of the time in the top 3 of every Game cause they done so much dmg. So WG ''nerfed'' them, since then cv's got less then half of the rewards from dmg etc cause so bad players werent in the top 3 anymore. If cv's will get so much points for spotting than the old problem will come back but maybe wg lost interest in listing to that problem. xD
This was almost a perfect game for showcasing all the wonderful characteristics for Wargaming’s sacred class. Your viewer needs to send you one where the marvelous submarine auto-delete function is demonstrated. This might be hard to do at Tier X/Starship. I would expect most Tier X submarine players would have figured out how bad an idea it is to attack one of the Cathedrals of Awesomeness.
CVs DO remove camping. I camp behind islands everytime I play a cruiser or DD. But when there are CVs in the match, the CV removes me from the game in 2 strikes, and I go play a different game. Camping removed.
It's a very Soviet solution. No players, no problems.
At 13:15 he has both 103k damage and 103k spotting damage.
In 7 minutes he has made more impact than unicum BB in an entire game. While not moving at all.
Bro I moved my planes a lot
Funny thing about this replay, despite how OP the carrier is and how much hes doing the team still nearly lost the match lmao.
Well, the Hakuryu on the other team was mauling the greens pretty badly, too.
But that's the point. Can you imagine being on the other team where you've worked so hard to win and the difference is just the insanely OP CV. It should have been a comfortable win for the red team, but for one player. In a game with 24 participants, one player should not be the deciding factor.
@@deaks25 I don't have to imagine it, cus I deal with it every day I play. Okay probably not every day but more often then I'd like.
he 100% started moving and using torp bombers cause he saw he actually needed to carry lmfao
remember being the enemy thunderer in this match, watching my flank melt to planes as I desperately try covering them with my DFAA.. I think i had 12 planes total shot with 7 fighters lol
Also note the EZ 650,000 potential damage because carriers have the kind of survivability that battleships wish they had
@竜崎 without evasive movements and heals? I would say, it's a lot for a ship with that high potential damage output.
@竜崎 that's alot
@竜崎 for something that should be squishy and made no attempts at angling or evasion it is
@@apertureemployee215 i like to compare cv's with the arty from wot. Scout finds them, arty is dead. Wows: DD finds the CV, the dd is dead. xD
@竜崎 It isn't a lot if you're actively tanking, but it is a lot considering he didn't even steer his ship at any point
That drop on the Thunderer for 25-26k was just.. sad times man.
This might be the closest Flamu gets to being tormented by a dominatrix 🤣
That we're aware of... 🤔
CV planes spotting for the team is equivalent of gun shells spotting...
Watching Flamu suffer through this is oddly satisfying.
This Replay is the reason why i haven't played this wonderfull game since 4 months. Thanks WG
Only 4 months? I don't play this shitafter 3 week from cv's rework.. remember my des moines full AA build do nothing to planes.. bye bye wg.. thankfully i never spent any money on this shit..
@@Malossianoplus Wow... CV Rework is way before my time.(2020 I started playing)
I'm weaning myself off this game as hard as i can wean!!!
I started playing about five-ish years ago, haven't played in almost two years because trying to enjoy the game as a battleship player is about as practical a pastime as punching yourself in the balls.
Up to ~ Tier VII, still sort of World of Warships. Tier VIII through Starship, World of Sadists and Masochists. (The sadists now have two classes of ship to play, but sadly submarines do require hands and a brain.)
I remember watching iChase play the original version of carriers. They were just as overpowered, but required a lot of skill to play.
this was true last year. now mid-tiers have a sub infestation problem
I really regret not playing CVs more before the rework, they were pretty fun.
It was while the UI didn't let you down, sure.
Been losing 40% to 60% hp (more than standard cvs) to hybrid dropbombs as a Halland lately.. truly balans.
More planes = fewer players (like WOWP....).
The hybrid drops hurt DDs very bad. Very tight drop reticle.
@@jedpratte don't forget the almost guaranteed fire.
And they do seem to have a very wide splash radios.. So you will lose easily your engine, one torpedo launcher or your steering as well.
Plus, they essentially have unlimited reserves
It's safe to say that Nakimov is hilariously busted
RTS CVS where not this busted. AA was better and places where limited and had to reload.
Russian.......
@@jaywerner8415 RTS CVs weren't busted? 🤣. I mean sure point and click deletion on old Graf Zeppelin, hilarious triple torp cross drops with full destroyer torp damage, all while spotting the entire enemy team literally across the map, was totally fine.
RTS CVs had incredibly front loaded damage, which meant if you were good with them you could take over a match, even with permanently losing planes. People complain about spotting now, but you could spot the entire team at all corners of the map simultaneously. However, the high skill ceiling meant you saw much fewer of them, which probably gave you that view point
once anti air skill had no usage number limit on all cruisers...
and CVs facing way more stronger AA than these days
every one admited that those days CV is kind of balance
whereas nowadays lul
Nah. We clearly need more data... To buff it of course.
The problem is the action playstyle, it is hard to balance because if AA would really stop you, you would never be able to attack. In the RTS playstyle you would care less about an attack not working because it would only be one squad of many you control. Also rts had active anti-cv gameplay with the fighters. Rts would have been balanceable, but action playstyle won't get nerfed much at this point.
it was also balanced in a way by having aa cruisers, and not unlimited planes, i mainly played kaga( one of the most disgustings CVS back than wa s0place 13 or so on that ship) but you still got fucked by aa cruisers, or by a cv who went with fighter squads and knew what he was doing.
@@valentinpetrovitsch9406 Yes, the moment when you tried to spot and accidentally flew into Mino's AA range and just saw fifth of your striking capability vanish.
But people wanted this so now they have it. Hopefully everyone is having fun.
Clearly a gentleman's class. Doesn't even see his strikes, because that'd be too casual :D
Wait for the inevitable soviet super CV. The thing will kill full HP battleships in one or two strikes.
20.00 damage per rocket cyka blyat. What do you mean it isnt balans? Comrade is this not what the people want?
They can’t design it around the current actual Russian carrier. . . Oh, wait, yes they could! All they need to do is add a couple of oceangoing tugboats to tow it around the map.
@@old_guard2431 lol Kuznetsov
This video reminds me of a match I had awhile ago. I had gotten frankly tired of the carriers on my team having either: less than 25 battles OR a
"There is a reason those two classes completely redefined naval warfare and changed history."
I wish someone told Wargaming that.
Both of those things are basically a hard counter to surface ships...I don't even understand how anyone thinks they could ever be balanced.
I was literally wailing throughout the entire gameplay.
perfect example of how broken CV, planes and AA are, it going to pain me when i have to play CV just to finish off the last of the missions for campaigns. I remember seeing a video of a soviet CV losing 90+ planes and was still sending out full squads
Can't wait to read all WG's sycophants stumbling over each other to defend this
I remember having almost 350k spotting with richthofen on tears of the desert in epicenter mode full t10. Although it gave basically no rewards. Carrier spotting is both cancer to surface ships and unrewarding to CVs. Great mechanic
as battleship, CV spotting my enemies is helping me a lot.
Well that is going to change, spotting is going to be rewarded now.
I just started recently and have a few lines up to tier 6 but this video convinced me not to waste any more of my time with this game.
Valid choice. Another choice is don’t go above Tier 7. The bottom line: are you having a good time playing? It is a tough time to be coming into the game, with Tier 8 being nothing but pain. While not being a particularly good player I am a veteran of many things, including the rage-uninstall. (At least 4 times, lost count.) They used to give you reasonably decent stuff to reinstall, just had to stay out a month or two.
The only reason I am still in after 7 years and 15,000 games is I find away to have a good time, most games. For me this is mostly playing around Tier 6 and 7, saving my few high tier ships for special events like Ranked and Airship Escort. Now that the game is declining there are a lot of experienced players in the mid-tiers.
This is perfectly balanced. I dont see any problem here.
As funny as that statement is, WeeGee actually believes it, and tries to justify it using the mythical spreadsheet 😂
As someone that used to enjoy CVS I see plenty of issues.
@@phillewis1749 The problem is the only spreadsheet they are using is ship/class popularity. Not a lot of people play this broken boring crap so they are buffing it more and more while nerfing AA in general.
I don't know what's more cursed. That carrier, or the carrier player's username.
Yesterday I just witnessed a satsuma getting tortured by eagle despite having me in des moines near him ... From 100% hp to 60 % with just 2 squadrons and the third squadrons first drop hit detonation lol.
AA is a sad joke in the game atm.
>Carriers can't out-airfield an airfield.
Wargaming: And I took that personally.
I found out the cv counter, I stopped playing the game. Feels great.
I found one better, 3 Louisiana Div and focus CV with bombers, by 10th minute, CV is dead, even sooner if we rotate our drops so that other two can use guns.
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As soon as I saw it was a Nakhimov replay I knew this would be an experience
it takes very special kind of special to say that carries were more op before cv rework
are you sure dude? i want RTS CV sooo bad, because its more OP
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 so you are special kind of special then
@@jussi8111 with RTS CV i could spot the entire map, kill enemy CV earlier, and burst out any opponent mistake.
The worst thing about RTS CV is your team don't have CV and enemy team have CV.
People just forget the biggest issue of RTS CV is skill difference of CV player. The CV rework address this issue.
The only issues with rts CVS was CV Sniping and the RAW damage/easy of use the torpedo bombers where. Maybe ap bombs too but the torp bombers could delete a ship with 1 manual drop.
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601yea and makes everyone miserable
I think the most broken part of the class is the fact that he could make constant strikes and provide constant spotting with no wait time. The CV doesnt even have to be judicious with his strikes or use them strategically. He can pass a low ship and just target him with the next strike 40 secs later. WG turned the CV model into a swarm of killer bees that never runs out.
I feel filthy watching this. I'm laughing, but the tears are real
My favorite thing about tier 10 CVs is that they're immune to armor piercing shells that weigh more than my car.
I was told with a straight face that when I lost 20k to Nakihmov rocket planes in an angled Kutuzov stern on; that it was either untrue or it was my fault for not "Just dodge"-ing 😂
Yeah, CV enjoyers are pretty wild.
„Just position better or dodge with a simple maneuver“. That sums it all up
my friend that is a main on cruisers just sat on Nakhimov and made ez 160k dmg just flying and making enemies use their repairs, our clan was sitting and watching that craziness of the most Balans CV
Technically if the CV clubs the entire enemy team camping has been reduced to 0, comrade.
0:00 the background art looks so good
I remember RTS carriers, and how-despite being ludicrously OP-they took a lot of skill to play. I know I liked them, but I only really had fun at low-tier because I couldn't handle more than about three squadrons at once. Seemed like everyone kinda looked at high CV players as masters of some dark art; a rare breed of micromanager with top-notch map awareness and hands like nobody's business. They still ruined your game, usually, but there was a certain respect for a CV that could plop perfect drops on top of you. -Also DFAA and AA in general did something-
Now, even a schmuck like me can put-out commanding victories in a CV. Not reliably, of course, but I can, and with only a basic grasp of the technique and theory behind playing the class. To put it simply, with my level of CV-knowledge and practice... if you transposed that to any other class, I'd struggle to do 50k at Tier VIII, yet I can put-out over 100k semi-regularly in a Tier VIII CV.
A wonderful display of balans.
Thank you for sharing.
"holy shit this supership is brok- **realizes it a t10** ITS NOT EVEN A SUPERSHIP????"
now imagine people averaging below 45% and 50k in this class
One day I might save up enough channel points to send in one of my Knackerdimov games. Averaging 57k and regularly deplaned by about 7 minutes in; even picking solo ships the wall of flak fills my screen and instantly disembowels the flight. I wonder if I'm playing a different game sometimes, as I wouldn't last two seconds in some of the crossfire AA areas this replay lingered.
Winrate 45% actually not surprising at all. Just a bell curve among CV players, and class differences don't matter in that fact. (Since Each team will have a CV in every match, win rate is a comparison between CV players, not CV players and other classes ). Now 50k is hilariously bad
Imagine if every cv could drop like nakimov
None of us would ever have a chance
4 torp haku every several minutes is already a super ship. 12 torp regularly? You named it wrong, that’s called mobile devstrikes
@@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 I know there are better examples, but imagine how broken Immelmann would be, 12 70% fire chance bombs delivered by planes faster than some fighters
FDR with Russian type drops?
@@beacon_in_the_fog exactly.....
364 rockets 56 bombs and 56 torps.....fair right?
@@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Mobile devstrikes? Ha if fdr could drop all at once that's a
650k rocket potential
Bombs with their 63mm of pen 593k potential....yeah mobile dev strike here
and torps at 225k after torp reduction if all connect, yeah one dev strike coming up
i mentioned on forum that we need faster interceptor on that 2 points cruiser captain skill that only boost "spotter airplane". that 2 points skil should boost fighter aircraft as well.
they should add wind, and make it a requirement that the carrier have a certain relative wind speed across her deck to launch planes. it wouldn't balance the class but it would at least make them move, since you'd have to be moving in a certain direction at a certain speed to launch planes. ya know, like how real carriers work, you cant just launch planes cause you decided to, there are certain conditions that have to be met, one of which is "are my planes gonna have enough airspeed to produce lift by the time they run out of deck?"
Plus, the Nakimov is insane because the cycle time with rocket assisted takeoff and single run strikes. If it is able to push up closer to the battle, it strikes like a battleship reload time. Completely insane.
Faster bro. You can nuke a BB 100-0% in a couple of min.
I still remember some discussions on Reddit before the CV rework where people were like, RTS CVs are so broken literally nothing can be worse. And I always thought well, be careful what you wish for, you may get it. So this fill me with joy. People wanted to ruin CVs but forgot that in Soviet Russia, CVs ruin you.
At least rts carrier needed a lot of practice to make it good with how much there could be to manage
Newer CVs (and most ships in general) are like this, Malta can lose 150 planes and still have full squadrons. It has x2 as many planes on deck as Audacious, and a full 60 second faster plane regen once upgraded with a captain. In a sub 20 minute match, that is nuts.
In spite of having been the victim of a Malta rape in Yamato a few days ago, I am still shocked.
What never ceases to amaze me is that CV players don't actually play WoWs. They have a game that is entirely their own. It just happens to consist of persecuting actual players while in god mode. They're always the last to die, and only if their team loses. All the things that other players - even subs to a small degree - have to worry about in game, they can disregard or ignore. It's just mechanically doing the same thing over and over. It can appeal only to retards. They never experience the satisfaction that is earned by good gameplay, like positioning, aiming, ambushing, ammo selection, smart use of consumables, cooperation. It's all just irrelevant to them. These are the people who will use cheat- and god mode in any game the moment the codes become available. It's all about mindless shooting while not having to worry about your own character/ship.
Good post. They should F off to WOWP.
Yep. It's a 1v1 or 2v2 mode for CV players, while all other ships are just like creeps in MOBA games waiting to be farmed be them.
Guuuuud. Join them flamu. UNLEASH DARK FLAMU. POUR ALL YOUR HATE AND MALICE INTO THIS CLASS. ONE CLASS TO RULE THEM ALL.
It's great seeing the four teams going at each other in the match. The two CV teams and the two surface ship teams. I like the way WG promotes teamwork in WoWS with CVs. 🤨
To be fair, CV's absolutely DO reduce camping...
After all, it's not camping if you're DEAD!
F**king hell! Thanks Flamu, I utterly hate this.
Carriers work just Ike real life, owning everything but those nasty submarines.
I think that Wow is a game of positioning since with a good one you can find covers and be tanky, find flanks and deal huge damage, ...
But with the CV :
1) whathever you do your position is compromised if the CV decides to target you : he can create corssfire out of nowhere and punish people hiding still behind islands
2) you don't have to think about positioning as a CV as you could see that he didn't even move before 8 min in the game. And he can go wherever he wants with his planes : AA ships or not, gathering of ships or not, his squadrons were still full at the end
3) this is the only class that doesn't lose HP and fighting power as long as you do not troll while dealing insane dmg to the enemy team. We should also take note that along losing HP, the other ships also lose their AA (against HE or rockets) which is already useless but this makes them even more vulnerable
4) they have the best scouting ability without risking anything unlike destroyers
5) Insane damage without requiring an skills : 300k while scouting and forcing ships to get into vulnerbae positions or showing their flanks to your team
6) Best long range armor : as long as you're angle and at long range, BB's AP and cruisers' HE/AP can't pen you
CCL : insane damage, spotting without risking anything nor requiring any skills while preventing all the other classes to even play the game
A player venting his frustration against CV
"The only winning move is not to play"
The wildest thing about this replay is that the player barely needs to bother to set up strikes properly. He doesn't need to maneuver around for optimal attack angles, dodge AA or anything like that. Just flies straight in, drops, spawns the next squadron, rinse and repeat.
Just being curious, I would like to get this wallpaper flamu has, the question is where would I be able to get it?
Source of the wallpaper?
I find at T6, 1 CV per side I feel comfortable to execute a few aggressive plays here and there because of the slower planes gives you some blind time to maneover, once you hit T8 if you are center map you are being spotted by a fresh attack before the previous attack animation has finished, they are way too fast.
Imagine if WG let AA work.
So many complaints wouldn't be there anymore.
The damage that dude made in the battle can also be done by all the other classes. Did you know? Somewhat equal damage here. And, don't forget that both teams will have carriers. If your team is diminishing because your team's performance is overall worse. Then the carrier at the end is going to be overwhelmed by the amount of leftovers. In usual battle with carriers I try to push only when I know that CV's not targeting this way. And when I am sure that when they do, it's worth it. And don't forget. If you keep dodging from planes, though it ruins your play, it will profit them less unless you overlooked opportunity for them to cross-fire on you. They will get less damage from you, thus be distracted for profit it gives. But german bombers don't care about dodging. When trying to punish the CV as much as possible for the attack, it is beneficial only when your CV outperforms theirs.
Putting ebola aside, nice nickname.
I uninstalled and sold my account 2 years ago because of cvs, but even watching this now I still feel an overwhelming amount of rage. I don't know how you still do it...
An interesting bit of realism/balancing would be to require the cv to be making X (maybe 20-30?) knots in order to launch planes.
3 minutes into the game and camping by DDs successfully reduced to 0%. The math checks out.
After watching this, I can’t blame my team for getting killed quickly at the start and the match ends in a loss before it even starts. I’ve been going back to port whenever I see a CV and sub match, just not worth wasting 10 minutes of my life to do 20k damage, be permanently spotted, and lose….and what’s worse, all the bonuses and signals that get wasted. Thank you WG
I had over 50 coop games because I did this on repeat LOL
(high tier) CVs have always turned a game of 24 players into a game of 2 players and 22 victims. Total anti-design.
My last game was just a couple of months after the CV rework. Watching my Vanguard fire 4 flak puffs with 4 turrets which each spat out 44 rounds per minute of 5.25” flak reduced to 1/16th of the firepower so I could easily be farmed was when I said “I’m done”. I let realism slide a little bit, so often, but by that point, I was done. This game isn’t arcade, it’s a level beyond arcade, that tries to hide its decisions behind “realism” when it suits them, and when called out say “it’s just a game, needs to be balanced for fun,”
love your pc background flamu
I was in a Colorado yesterday. The game had 4 cvs and 4 subs. Lets just say the 2 enemy cvs felt that they wanted to totally ruin the game for me and they did with resounding success.
We people who play US battleships dont feel ripped off at all! lol 21 knot ships, with 0% armor vs multipurpouse CV's from Tier 3 to Tier 7 = fun and engaging gameplay :D (not to mention need to grind 300k exp with the Colorado now lmao)
Yeah agree, i play only Richthofen and full squads are only possible in the first 5 -10minutes after that its a shit show
It just requires a Simple Maneuver. In this case, build for range and maneuver to park next to one of your carriers. You will be well-protected from the submarines and somewhat protected from your opponents’ planes.
Not your concept of a good time? No easy answers for that one.
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Playing the US ships in general makes me feel ripped off. These were some of, if not the best AA ships of their period, even the big boy BBs, yet in this game they can't do shit to a carrier.
@@meganoobbg3387 yes my only positive is i seem to win a lot with the ship.
Man, I could play my Arkansas Beta and be just as effective against aircraft as these ships.
I finally did it. I de-installed the game for good. I hate WG for creating this class, and the a-hole players abusing it.
On the one hand this has sorta made me realize how bad I suck at (reworked) CVS. On the other, it has completely destroyed any remaining delusions I had of them being less bullshit than RTS CVS
Man was T posing the whole game 🗿
Haven’t play that God forsaken piece of trash for two years now. Glad nothing has changed.
Remember when they brought first iteration of CV rework and AA cruisers would take a dump on carriers? I was running full AA spec radar mino to help team. Those were the times :)
When AA was shooting down planes and not just making nice effect
Why is it when ever I play CV's put out sitting aircraft spot the entries team get 9+ spotting ribbon and end up doing 0 spotting damage cause my trams refuse to fire, and I swear the same thing happens when I play stealthy destroyers. No one shoots
Pretty sure Jingles reviewed this and came to the same conclusion that the players was making a point by not moving at all till really late
The worst part is that the dude playing Nakhi wasn't even trying
That looked like a lot of fun for all the other ships lol
Considering Hakuryu got a tier 11 version. Its pretty much a given we are gonna get a tier 11 Nakhimov
2019 - "The year of the cv"
What people don't realize is that carriers are a class of progression. If CV's were "balanced" how would the game proceed with 80% less spotting and all that spotting damage? And that's 300k damage that wouldn't have been dealt. How would it feel just fighting for all 3 caps for 20 minutes because hardly any ship dies? If AA was meaningful how could we expect CV's to do anything, there by effectively stalling the gameplay. Now that sounds like a npe to me. Now thanks to CV's and even subs, we can play a game and either die fast so we can que up for another game, or go through A cap and make sure that happens to them.
So thank you WG. Without CV balance I would probably have half the amount of games I do. Getting all that extra value and gameplay out of my ships is why I keep coming back. And by keep coming back I mean I quit the game for months and months, play for a few days or a week, and quit again.
How do you avoid that?
It's not actually that hard. No, really! I've been doing it since about September!
Haximob. Is this intentional via a mod or is this the real translation? Btw nice balanced gameplay.
That is the actual Cyrillic for Nakhimov.
2:40 into the match and the CV, which hasn't moved an inch btw, has destroyed a DD (AA joke), and made about 25k spotting dmg...
I really don't understand why any1 keeps playing this game.. I haven't played for about a year, perhaps more but forcing myself to sit here and watch this basically made me go out and get a bucket of ice cream and feel bad.. What a shit show..
Why move if there's no threat
3:22 WTF ???? THIS IS INSAINE !!!
i know im late but what is the sauce for the home screen?