Kia e-Niro (Electric SUV) - Still As Good As It Was??
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- A favourite of the channel for years, does the Kia e-Niro stand the test of time???
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I cancelled my ID3 order because the software issues, and bought the Kia E-Niro. It has far exceeded my expections, and is a really nice car to drive. With the back seats down it’s load carrying ability is impressive. It is very energy efficient and it’s range estimate is generally accurate.
Wise move, I too own the E Niro it’s a great car.
@@wobby1516 Shame it looks like shit
@@MikeKleinsteuber That's always subjective. Granted it's not a looker, but I'd not call it 5h1t personally lol
@@stuartburns8657 I'd not call it 5h1t either. I'd call it shit
@@MikeKleinsteuber lol, fair enough Mike 🤣
You can disable the icy condition warning in the configuration menu - no need to go all mad about it :D Had my e-niro a couple of years and still love it, room for the teenagers and the dogs, long range, good performance, comfortable - to be honest, I think its the car I've been the most satisfied with owning, I'm 47 and had plenty of cars both less and more expensive, though no EV until the e-niro...
Currently have two of these and have found them great cars. One doesn't have the heat pump heating and that has impacted the range a bit over winter, especially on shorter journeys. But couldn't find anything better at this price for moving people and stuff around the country.
Would you be able to say what difference in mi/kWh the heat pump makes?
Interested in the ≈% impact of no heat pump if you have a rough idea. I don't think they necessarily return their investment but I like the idea of the efficiency and I doubt it is a cost you would regret
Mi/kwh difference really depends on how long the journey is. Normally notice a loss in range of about 5-10 miles each time the car is reheated. I never noticed it being as severe in the heat pump car.
@@alanmcconachie it makes sense that the heat pump version would be more efficient. I think that it would be useful if one does a lot of long, in the cold journey’s, but for the average guy who mainly runs around local. I wonder is it worth the extra as the Nero still has a good range with or without the heat pump.
@Wobby1 Agree for most cases the loss of range for local journeys doesn't really matter as I'm not far from my home charger. If I was relying on public chargers or away from home more regularly then perhaps I would prefer the heat pump car but no regrets in skipping that option.
Definitely an EV to consider when shopping for a practical vehicle. With the ability to have discrete button controls allowing one to keep eyes on the road is very nice feature. The driving range with the larger battery should solve the range issue for most. You showed us a very capable EV and you displayed feelings of why to seriously consider the Kia e-Niro EV. It is a nice looking vehicle in my opinion. Thanks for the honest review and pointing out what you thought was good and not so great. ✅
Great review on the e-Niro and I agree with everything you say about it.
I picked up my e-Niro 2 Long Range in October and it is the first EV and non German car that I have owned and it really is a brilliant car.
I went for the e-Niro for the range, dare I say it “performance” which is really quite decent.
I also needed a nice, good quality interior along with a good amount of space inside as I have two children including a 1 year old with a big Bugaboo buggy and the e-Niro boot manages to swallow this with space to spare.
For those who are considering an EV the Niro is a great example. There are others in a similar price bracket but the specification and/or range won’t be close to the equivalent priced e-Niro.
i am also coming from a German car my 3 kids are older this car can take the abuse
kia hired Germans to do the interior and i think thats what sold us
this youtuber should ask hong kong kia for a commission i was sold on this video
Niro was the perfect choice for me.
It just felt like Kia had spent all the money in all the right places.
Great build quality in all the important places, great range and efficiency, just big enough without being too big.
All the must have tech without pushing up the price with gadgets you will never use.
DC rapid charging is fast enough for days away . The 11kw AC charging in the 4+ is a bit of a bonus on 3 phase chargers, 22kw AC would have come in handy a few times but I would not want to pay extra for it.
The styling is a bit standard eurobox but then I like a car to look like a car some of the 'futuristic' design features on some of the cars are just a bit meh to me.
Only things that would have been nice is if they had had it rated for towing.
We have had the e Niro for 18 months now and still love the car. It’s very well appointed and really efficient. I would still recommend the car to anyone looking for an Ev at this price point. I will be looking at ether the new Niro or the up and coming Ev 4.
Coming up to 3 years now with our e-Niro, one of the first to come into France in March 2019. Have covered 56,000 km in that time. The only fault was the passenger side wing mirror failed to fold back when the car is locked, replaced under warranty. Just got back from a 2,000 km round trip to Frankfurt. The car is efficient and comfortable on a long journey and especially quiet on the French autouroutes.
Another great informative Video, I purchased one in December and love it
Thanks for an entertaining and informative review. You have a novel way of introducing the pet peeves you have with the car while still demonstrating a fair amount of respect. Hello from Toronto. Dad from Sheffield and Grandparents from Sprotborough near Doncaster.
I have been following many reviews on TH-cam and tested the Leaf on the road but looked at the available ev's at the Vancouver International Auto Show in March 2019. We bought a 2019 Kia EV Niro in April 2019 Vancouver Canada. Picked it up from Kia Show room and the dealer said it is not fully charged but had 490KM shown available. Very happy to this day which is January 14/22. In the spring April to late September and charging to 90% we get 470-480 km of range and the winter we only charge to 80% and get 375 km range. Received a letter from the Kia Dealership and wanted to buy our Kia at the price at this date plus xtra 110% because there are customers wanting it. We declined because when looking at all the latest EV's in North America with all the increase in horsepower BUT THE RANGE on majority is not has good. We like the roominess and the cargo space. Easy to get in and out especially when our friend is 6ft-3" tall with still headroom to spare. We will keep it and who knows when to sell.
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Excellent review as usual, thank you 😊
Not a specific EV comment but it never fails to amaze me how small these huge crossover's boots are. Yes I am probably a dinosaur but give me an old school estate.
Just ordered one thanks for this 👍🏻
Excellent review, as usual, of what still seems like a great car. It's on my list.
Thanks very much for the excellent assessment. I'm in the States and will be test driving one tomorrow. I see it as 'almost' a last generation EV at this point, given all the 2021/2022 EV introductions. And yet, many of you European reviewers speak of it fondly and have enjoyed owning it...and there's something to be said about that alone.
You might want to wait for the new model Niro. Test drive the ev6 too. th-cam.com/video/h5ihLUkjo74/w-d-xo.html
@@Richard482 Thanks, Richard. Drove the Niro EV (what we call it in the States) and found it disappointing. EV6 is still in the wings and nowhere to be seen...but many of us are waiting.
This video has almost sold the idea of the mgzs mk2 big battery version
It's a superb car, not too big for an 'SUV' shape but loads of space where it's needed. Nothing ever goes wrong, perfect, well except the price now.
Great video mate, love the content keep it up 👍🏻 any luck on grabbing a Hyundai ionic 5 to review?
We have had our e-Niro since last May and absolutely love it. At the time we also considered the VW i3 but were put off by the then software issues. For the occasional long journey it is very comfortable. We charge at home via an Ohme between 12:30 and 4:30 and it is costing us pennies. One pedal driving is so easy using the paddles.
Actually the Satnav is very good (TomTom I believe it is) having said that, this is the only negative we have about the car. Not that it isn't accurate or quick because it is; it's the updating.
We had a message come up telling us it needed updating so I rang the leasing company as part of the agrement was servicing etc. They told me updating the maps on the satnav was not included. So, I rang my local Kia dealer and they wanted £50 to update the maps. £50 for what a two minute download? When I bought my last TomTom before getting the e-Niro it came with maps for life. The model we had before that cost me about £40 a year for four updates a year.
Map updating for the Kia is a rip off! So I will be plugging in my phone and using Google Maps.
Apart from that the e-Niro is still a very good EV.
I had a diesel Audi Q5 Quattro S line and swapped to the E Niro 4+. I found for UK parking spaces, that the Q5 was a little large, aften leaving inches either side to the white lines. I have now had the E Niro for over 7 months and love it. I have not missed my Audi at all, this is a better size for me, like the buttons they left in the car and can also updatethe software for free, using the Navigation Updater app on windows.
Heated seats all around and cooled front seats for summer, it has all the gadgets I want including the smart ctruise control. Also the sat nav is fully connected to the internet, so I have been very impressed by the navigation.
My only improvement i would like is the sound proofing at higher speeds, not bad but could be better. (and a button for turning off the lane assist beeps!!)
Funnily enough my son said the VESS sounds like an Angel type sound and says if someone got run over, they would think they had gone to heaven!
Great video mate
You can remove the redundant polystyrene trays from under the boot floor for loads of extra storage underneath and/or drop the floor for extra height. Aftermarket Frunk kits (and gas struts) too so you can keep the cables by the front charge port and not underneath the rear luggage.
I’ve done all that, and for the extra few pound it cost it’s made all the difference. I’ve even fitted a skinny spare wheel.
@@wobby1516 hopefully will do that’ll on buying one in a couple of months. Any impact on insurance and warranty? Easy enough to get a spare tyre.?
Looks great in that red. I had to have the white, though as it was in stock.(4+ MY22) Still, I got 96% of my money back from my old e-Niro worst edition.
I’ve the Niro 4+ , I can’t say I love it, It’s a great EV that’s perfect for our needs but for me the new EV6 is definitely on my next car list. Of course if it’s a cheaper car then why not the Niro 2. It comes with a slightly lower spec but its still a great car. The Tesla you drive is a great car, I’m just not struck by its appearance. The after sales service and repair can, I believe, be difficult unlike Kia who have loads of dealers around the country. Tesla certainly have the charging network sorted, but I think that’s beginning to change and in a few year won’t be a big deal.
I went to Kia dealership today, the advised me to wait for the new model of the E Niro, so I'm looking forward to your review when can get your hands on one. 😊👍
super helpful thank you
About 6 months in with mine. It works out fantastically cheap as a company car (effectively free due to employer incentives towards EVs and current very low BIK rates).
Efficiency hovers around 4.2 to 4.5 miles per kWh in summer, 3.5 to 4 in winter. Best I've seen on a run was 5.8, although that was in very mild weather and averaging about 40mph. Worst was 3.2 from a 5-mile drive on a cold night.
As a daily driver it's just about perfect: comfortable, quiet enough at speed, all the toys on my 4+ version. Heated steering wheel is absolutely marvellous!
Range is far better than a lot of very expensive "premium" EVs. Will consistently achieve 240 miles in winter on motorways. In summer, driving on back roads at lower speeds, I've managed over 300.
Build quality is excellent. The car feels like it'll last a lot longer than any German car at similar price point.
Looks are a bit indifferent. I'm not a big fan of the "pretend SUV" look, would rather the roofline was a couple of inches lower and the boot 6 inches longer, i.e. a conventional estate shape.
Things that annoy me:
1. Boot floor should have been designed to sit at 2 levels. I would much rather be able to use the full depth of the boot than have about 8 inches or so effectively wasted under the floor.
2. No storage under the bonnet, despite there being loads of space, especially if you take off the rather pointless plastic cover over the motor. Seems a missed opportunity.
3. Instrument cluster auto-dimming isn't too clever, it's often too bright or too dim, and adjustability is quite limited - at dusk, even with the manual adjustment turned all the way down, it can be distractingly bright until the sensor finally decides "yup, it's dark".
4. Remote control of heating etc relies on the car having a 3G/4G mobile data signal (I believe Kia use Vodafone for this). The signal where i live is unusable, but there's no alternative option, such as connecting via wifi or bluetooth.
5. The windscreen washer jets really need to be heated (and possibly some trace heating in the pipework too). Unlike a petrol/diesel car there's no heat generated under the bonnet (in fact the heat pump can actually make it colder than ambient), consequently my usual 50/50 mix of screenwash and water is no good at all in this car when it's -2C outside, have to put neat screenwash in this car!
6. For quick defrosting/demisting I'm surprised Kia didn't fit a Ford-style electrically heated windscreen. Has to be more efficient to heat the glass directly than to blow warm air at it.
Still happy with my e-Niro after more than a year. Does all that I need and more. Impressive range and comfort, even in the winter. Agree on the price after the government adjusted the grant, but would still prefer it over the competition.
I've had my 4+ for a year now and couldn't be happier with it. It is just a family car that hapens to be a competent EV underneath.
I wish that red had been an option then though...
Hi EVM, just to mention I just placed order for a model 😁
I asked for opinions on your last live stream torn between polestar or tesla. Your daughter said tesla would be sensible choice, made my wife laugh 😃 and maybe tipped the scales for model 3.
Pity the referral scheme stopped, ah well keep up the great channel 👍
Fair review, 35k would be the cheapest model now, I went for the eniro3, got 1k discount, free mats and 2 years servicing and still paid 37k otr. Eniro3 does not have heat pump but that does not make much difference in SE England, I rarely go out when it's below 5 deg. Still getting over 250 miles per charge at moment. Eniro3 is first spec model with the app which is useful to start the heating and Defrost from your armchair before setting out, to stop start charging and check if you locked the car.
When I see these stories about cars getting stuck in a snowstorm in America, I think why are they taking to the roads in such shite weather? Do they not have weather reports?
I enjoyed watching the Video. New Kia Niro gping on sale In the Summer
The main gripe I have with some newer cars is the stupid screen on the dash that looks like an after thought, thankfully the ENiro has an integrated screen, and doesn't it look better for that? i have an Ioniq hybrid and I hate the dash set-up, I wish manufacturers would think about it more, great channel btw.
Good quick review.... I think this vehicle needs a big overhaul to bring it up to meet the competitors
Hi EVM great review as usual. Love listening to your knowledge and opinion on things electric. I am thinking of an Niro Plug in 2021 model here in Ireland costing 34k euro. only 10 months old 1 owner - he traded back into garage because he had hip trouble and went back to his old style car (Sportage) instead. The garage also has a 2019 model (26500 euro) with low mileage. 27k miles. i just though starting with a plug in before I go fully electric might suit me as I live out the country and need to travel 17 miles round trip to my mam twice a week and about 40 miles to my daughter and a few trips to local town 5 miles round trip. Of course since lockdown is over I will prob do a few long trips this summer.
My question is have you done a review on the plug in model? Would you recommend one. And would it be mad to go for the 2019 model with the older battery obviously. Or should I try come up with the money to get the 2021 model. I heard a rumour that Kia will be discontinuing the Niro - so will it devalue at a fast rate? I would hope to change it maybe in 3 years. I have a 1.6 diesel at the moment (VW Passat - great car and economical but has high miles now - 10 yrs old). My friends keep telling me to buy a Hyundai Tucson 1.6 diesel - more economical and reliable when i dont know anything about the Niro and it a small car after all :-(
I still love my first edition
I thought I'd written it off last year and looking around for replacements. price vs spec & space just couldn't find anything close.
All In all a reasonably fair Presentation. Had ours 2 1/2 years and it is Fantastic in almost every respect (except having to turn lane assist off everytime you get in it). It does everything you want from a car and i concur about getting 4kw/h out of it. And it is so easy and relaxing to drive.
Looks are always subjective. I like the front grill but i don't like the kona grill.
Alot of people like the tesla 3 but it's a bit updated Ford Mondeo to me (on the outside atleast).
The New EV6 looks gorgeous but the Niro is probably with me for life!
You can 'permanently ' turnoff lane keep assist with the aid of a cut down very small cable-tie, inserted in the top of the switch.....it hold it in! If you suddenly decide to need it on.....you can reach down and pull it out without even looking.....been using mine for 6 months😄
Daily rutine:
1. Start button
2. Lane assist off
3. VESS Off
4. Auto Hold on
... hate and love this car in the same time.
@@joelf634 Lol. You are spot on. Unfortunately it's so they can get higher safety rating but all it does is get on your wick. 🙄
Loving my MG5 LR and did consider new ZS but didn’t want to wait and to be fair loving the MG5 so far, good reliable range, well built and comes in at 7k less than this - not saying it’s a better car but certainly not £7k difference between the two.
You're certainly not wrong although I think for some people I think the difference in cost will be worth it
My problem is that I have yet to see a (chinese) MG that wasnt fugly. This includes petrol and EV models, they are simply bland/ugly with no redeeming features and no character. You may disagree obviously :) The genuine MG marque is not included in this criticism obviously
STILL one of the best EVs out there, and looking forward to the first reviews of the new model.
We leased one of these, then a second one, because they were a good deal. With a lease, Kia gives the grants off the MSRP (Colorado), so the price was pretty near the same as a new, comparable ICE car. Getting a good deal on an EV makes it worth snapping up. I typically view a car as a depreciating asset, but in this case it feels almost like an investment. I pulled off the front bumper and covered the horn with some sound deadening material which is a must.
Hey! Nice choice! How much $ is your lease apprx?. Thanks
@@emilianavelez we have two, both were msrp about $42k minus lease discount of $11k and $9k respectively. Put money down so calculations will vary, but total monthly commitment for each is around $400 (includes down payment averaged over term of lease). Make sense? at this point we’re planning on buying them when lease is up, I’m guessing situation will not change much and it will make sense to keep them. We like the cars a lot. There are probably better EVs out there, but the eNiro is a good, solid choice.
I test drove a few EV’s before Christmas and the E-Niro was the one that ticked all my boxes and yet I kept looking at it and just couldn’t see myself in it, it felt like a middle age persons car and a tad dated, for such a large amount of money ( £38k for the 4+ which is the only one with a heat pump ) I just couldn’t sign up to that. I’m not a brand snob, but my current A class feels special, it’s interior is quite literally perfect in regards to amount of buttons and layout, it’s ambient lighting and infotainment system are best in the business regardless of any price point.
Great review EVM but you make a lot of comparisons with the Kona. I’m sure I have read that the wheelbase of the e-Niro is the same as the Hyundai Ioniq and the smaller battery versions match up pretty closely. I wonder why the Ioniq never got the bigger battery pack? Would you ever do a comparison or are Ioniqs getting too long in the tooth?
I’ll be interested to see what they do with the new version of the Niro - hopefully a bit updated without losing the efficiency
I gather it’s a change of body styling only. The mechanical gubbins stay the same. Then Kia plan to kill the eNiro after 2023, to concentrate on the 800v offerings.
Just drove the EV6 with the heads up display, blind spot cameras and some other extra features. They said all of this will be in the new Niro too.
I have the E Niro 64kw. In the USA. 1 year 20,000 miles. Bought on a whim, to try out EV’s without paying a lot for a Tesla. So far excellent commuter and everyday vehicle. Still use my S class for long trips. If the new model has the fast DC charging like the EV6 it would be an excellent update, as the slow DC charging is what keeps me from using it on longer drives.
I have my Kia Niro EV 2019 (as it's called in "the states") for about a year now, and though I like many features with it, I dont like its cold-gate issue (eg, charges around 22 kW in cold weather, around 5-10C)... and it's has a loud road noise when driving on motorway... Alas. Still a great car.
Got mine at the end of October last year and I think it's brilliant. It's my first EV, so I think the mix of physical buttons and touch controls is just right. Don't mind the styling. Yeah a bit boring but not too boring. The only things that annoy me are the startup "jingle" and the reversing beeps.
This model?
@@my_carp_life3424 A 2 rather than the 4.
Torn between this, the MG5 and, incongruously, the original Ioniq 28kW for its efficiency and quick charging. If I can just cope with what I think is slightly smaller load space inside I think its better value than the others.... Don't have home charging so it's a dilemma... I've got two years to solve it so things might change..
Enjoyed this, as ever, especially the rant. The bongs are gonna drive me nuts whatever we get! 😂
I have a 28kwh Ioniq and it's a great car, the only downsides are the smaller boot and the shorter range. The range hasn't bothered me much as don't do many long journeys, the efficiency is amazing though, I regularly get over 6 miles/kwh in the summer and my overall average is 4.2.
@@davidholden2658 yes, I still can't decide just how small the boot is... I've got a folding ebike I want to fit in it as its my SMV (stealth mobility vehicle!) That's my main concern, other than that the furthest run I make is about a hundred miles or so round trip plus extremely rare holidays when the journey is part of the fun. I thought the range was pretty good in these considering the size. Glad you're enjoying yours.
" find the one that ticks the most boxes and go from there" is good advice I think
Do you not get an interior trim choice in these cheaper cars so could spec something else other than the gloss black? Or do you just have to put up with what they tell you you're having?
We picked up a 2022 Tesla Model 3 (SR+ as was) in November and the efficiency is up another level. Yesterday in -2 I did over 200 miles at motorway speeds at 4.3 miles/kw. If you don’t need an SUV, it has to be the best value premium car right now.
How is the battery behaving so far? Is it your first EV or have you had others to compare it to? The 'SR+' have LFP batteries, and Tesla released a fresh load of care guidelines for them a few months ago, including that you *should* charge up to 100%. It sounds like yours is coping fairly well with cold conditions, too, which is one of the supposed weaknesses of LFP
@@gigabyte2248 it is our fifth EV and we also have an Audi Q4 at the moment. The Q4 really doesn’t like the cold ,during the summer when we got it we were getting 4.1sh on motorway runs I do regular for work. Now in the old struggling to get over 2.5 which when there are a real gap of decent chargers on those runs is a real problem for me. The Tesla though is showing no issues, holds its range brilliantly with high charging speeds even in the cold
Good review. Any chance of you getting your hands on an EV6 anytime soon?
The Niro EV would be a compelling option here in Canada if they had any availability. They are officeially available (unlike the ID.3, MG ZX EV, and many, many others) but good luck finding one.
It still is one of the best EVs for range/size/price. If not the best. It's very disappointing we're still considering 500km "city range" as "long range" today, 3 years after the e-Niro already had it. EV6 should have wiped the floor with e-Niro, bringing 500km "winter motorway" range with its dedicated eGMP platform. Didn't happen. 3 years wasted by KIA, letting everyone else catch up more or less.
EVM, with the new MG ZS EV top of the range trophy (long range) nearly £9k cheaper than the basic M3, would you consider changing?
I quite often find my missus watching your videos and commenting how much she likes them. The other day she even said she wants to take you to Next or M&S and buy you some clothes other than blacks, greys and browns 😆
Our Ioniq 38kw has a button where you can switch off the 'noise' and bleeper sounds. My sister comments how we arrive at their house in stealth mode 🤫
You will find on new EVs that the synthetic engine sounds etc cannot be turned off! It’s EU legislation. The new Niro EVs have the VESS button removed
Hired an e-Niro for a long distance road trip to Edinburgh over Christmas as I wanted to trial electric driving and have good space for all the pressies and luggage. Got the top of the range model and it was absolutely faultless. My first experience of adaptive cruise control too, and it ate up the miles. Will definitely consider one, but I think this generation of models now are limited by charging speed, not range. My partner and I found the range to be perfectly adequate bearing in mind toilet breaks and overnight stays, but what made the journey drag was the charging speed. If I have the ability to, I think I will be looking for a car that is capable of at least 70KW charging speeds in the future for those long-distance journeys, to stop us waiting around for longer than we feel we need to.
Edit: just got to the point in your video where you said it is capable of 100KW, or 77KW most likely. Not sure what my rental was capable of, but I only used 50KW chargers outputting roughly 37KW, so that's probably why it felt long :) Still, I think 100KW/77KW charging will be a minimum requirement for me and will put less pressure on public chargers.
The E-Niro has 77kw fast charging not 100kw. However, that figure is the maximum, charging speed is affected by battery temperature, the air temperature and the state of charge of the battery. If the battery is somewhere between 20-80% and the other conditions are right you should get close to the maximum rate. One other factor is some chargers share the load so if more than one car is charging the charging rate will be lower.
@@davidholden2658 Thanks David, looks like I can keep it on my shortlist then :)
Good ev content
The E Niro is a nice car but to expensive. I looked to buy one and I was quoted £39,199 (2% off list) for the top of the range in October 21, there was no PICG above £35000 at that time and its even less now. In the end I bought an MG 5 ex lr for under £25,000! I am very happy with it. With the spare money I saved I ordered 2 batteries to add to my solar panels. Its a shame you didn't you do a long range test of the MG5 for us all when you raced the train to Scotland?
I think the Kona is a better looking design on the exterior, however I did find the Kona too noisy above 40 mph and the lack of an App sounds a small thing, but my first EV, a BMW i3, had a good App that was surprisingly useful for pre-conditioning and sending destinations to the SatNav etc. What I would really like is a Tesla Model 3 Estate(station wagon), but sadly there is no such thing at present, so I think it will be an MG 5 next, still undecided though. In the next 5 years we will see an explosion of choice in EVs, and I for one, can’t wait - the future is going to be awesome.
Very good car, your rants were hilarious
Believe me the e-Niro is quite capable of using its 200 bhp! If Kia can upgrade the charging to over 100kW in the new 2022 model it will still be the EV to beat this year.
New 2022 model has the same charging speed
@@Zimpaz The new model actually has lower peak charging at 72kW although they have flattened the charge curve a bit. Problem is they have cut the motor torque by 30% so I'll be looking elsewhere to replace my current e-Niro.
@@nealm1814 oh wow does that dramatically reduce the 0-60 time then?
I’m thinking about getting the original eniro as a family car. First edition is about 28k used…is it worth the 5k more on top of that for a “3” I wonder?
@@Zimpaz Only by about 0.5 sec but it won't be as good on hills. Current e-Niro is still a great car you won't be disappointed.
@@nealm1814 great. To be honest I prefer the exterior looks of the outgoing model. What version do you have?
Must have different steering calibration than in the uK. In the US it is firm and solid feeling. (your joke here) Not the most feelsome, but precise. A fun car to hustle down the back road - it is very quick, and rotates nicely around its low and centralized center of gravity. Either that, or you have highly trained and capable post office van drivers.
I’ve had my Kia e-Niro for nearly a year and it’s been absolutely faultless, a superb family car. As mentioned in the video it’s a real workhorse and not particularly fun to drive but as a practical everyday EV it’s fantastic!
Before I got mine I was considering a Model 3 but the touch screen gimmicky-ness and QC issues out me off.. would be useful to understand what the extra £8k for a Model 3 actually gets you and if it’s worth it? Is it about more than just the superior charging network?
I have an E-Niro myself but the M3 gets you a much faster and fun to drive car, much better software, much faster charging, better charging network.
But i also chose the Niro over the M3 because of QC and also price.
I think the Tesla poor QA and Service centre issues will get alot worse before they get better sadly.
I'd imagine 80%+ of Service Centre visits are due to poor (non existant?) Qa out if the factory. It's not unusual to hear a new buyer needing 2-3 visits to get the car to proper standard.
With more being made but SC's not scaling accordingly, both a lack of parts and dreadful customer experiences will start to take a toll.
Don't own one myself, but a friend in Leeds (M3) needed 4 visits in the 1st 6 weeks, and that's excluding the shocking panel fits they can't do anything about
I have had more cars than I should have. Some real high performance and horrendous to run not many “sensible” vehicles. My last was a Tesla P90D which I kept for 3 years. After years of wasting dosh on motors I had a fit of “Captain Sensible”.
The Niro has been a revelation it’s so functional and reliable as to be almost “invisible”. The build quality is good, it’s roomy and well equipped.
After 3 years it’s never missed a beat. It’s the most painless motoring I’ve ever had.
Loved your review of the niro.but out of my price range. what do you think would
make a good first ever ev. is leaf to old now. the one i like for the price is seat mii
electric or e golf or vw e up
Any of the MGs.
Ha ha. The bit where you say "you shouldn't be driving!" , can we have a 3 second clip of you slapping someone in the face with a wet kipper?. Quality.
The "it could be icy" warning drives me mad on every car from the last ten years when it comes up when you first turn the car on; I know that it's cold outside, car, where the hell do you think that I just came from before getting in?
Will you be doing the mg LR ZS review soon please
I really like these, and was very impressed with the 4 version I drove. Nevertheless I went on to order the new MGZS long range. I just felt it was a better value proposition.
We went the opposite direction. Seriously considered the e-Niro/Kona for our first EV but ultimately decided the Supercharger network justified the stretch to the Model 3 SR+
@@NickFoster you won’t be disappointed. I was so impressed with the Tesla, but just couldn’t justify the £45k. Enjoy your new car when it comes
Plus the mg has v2l.
@@NickFoster Looked hard at the Tesla's. We're both wfh, so only school runs for main journeys. Think I'm too old fashioned, but lack of buttons was a killer for me.
Super charging network is the selling point, but would expect to really use it.
Sadly my friends M3 experience was the final nail in the coffin. He had multiple service centre visits upon collection (4) and the panel fitting was rather woeful.
Car prices are crazy. I thought that my old 2017 Zoe would have depreciated a lot by now. They are still going up and that's incredibly dated in all respects except range. Even the ten year old SLK I replaced it with has increased in value.
Any word on the 2022 version, previews look interesting but would be good to see a proper driving review in the metal. Any deals from Kia on this version with the new one imminent
Despite all the hoopla about the EV6 and the Hyundai Ionic, the eNiro just seems to be a "nice" car which does its job without fuss or grief and the biggie for me is when you leaned forward and changed the temperature with a real knob, not something on a menu ala Tesla. I think it would be the perfect EV for an EV newbie and someone who also drives a normal car so they don't have a vast change in driver experience like they do for a model 3. If I did a review, I think the heading would be "Dont forget the eNiro" I also like the entry/exit height compared to lower models. Still a good car and with a bit of a freshen up could be a long term staple.
"Good rear entry nice wide doors" haha made me laugh
I like it
In Australia it’s more expensive than the Model 3 SR+. $71580 for the sport in blue, $68,086 for t he lower S trim. Model 3 SR+ in blue $66,752. Now which one would you pick? Kia is having a lend. So the Model 3 is a bargain here.
I ended up tossing up between this and a M3 in Aus. 62k vs 67k for the e-niro. I couldn’t convince myself the extra 5k was worth it for an old design. Loved the extra space vs the Kona though. I just wish they were more competitive with the pricing.
@@bfragged Agree 100%
I got the eniro also cannot fault it some items not as solid as its ICE kia counter part mostly due to saving weight but had kias for the last 6 years but this EV definately has me converted whilst i can afford to do so with my cheap electric rate it equates to 400mpg
Thought this review was going to be the all new facelift edition of the eNiro which I think is the 2023 model year so later in the year.
Merry Christmas. lol :)
It’s a mid sized suv , it’s a petrol / diesel platform car with batteries and motor, no flush door handles . But it can keep up with Tesla regarding efficiency and range ! . Am I missing something ?
Everyone says this is compared to the Skoda Enyaq but from what I can see, the Enyaq starts at 40k?
Perfect car for me I just wish it didn’t look so utterly dull
Next video please - Tesla Plaid vs Royal Mail Combo
Absolutely agree spot on size for a family car. Kia & Hyundai efficiency has always been fantastic our MK1 KIA SOUL EV was doing 3.9 to 4mi/kWh through out the year. New MG ZS Long Range isn't a LOT cheaper now is it?
Good rear entry....I'm sold
The one consistently bad thing about Kias is the number of extremely irritating beeps it bombards you with, not just warnings about 5degree temperatures, but also when you just start it up! I had an ICE ce'ed that I got rid of after a month as it was doing my head in and there was no way to turn them off.
I’m still ok with my 40kwh Tekna leaf . 👍🇬🇧
I always have a soft spot for one of these but I think the MGs now beat it due to there price
This beats them on range, efficiency, space and comfort
@@Hyfly13 and has darker tinted windows and rear privacy glass, real leather seats which the MG doesn't
@@richardhaywoodh I can't even fit in an MG5 because I'm tall - well I can but the bulkhead behind the rear view mirror dangerously obscures my forward vision and there's nowhere for my left foot
I loved the Niro and wanted one for years but it’s looking a bit dated now and there is lot of competition now at a similar price point. I’ll stick with my MG until I’m tempted away
BYD Dolphin .
It’s a car that’ll never bug or annoy you…
also in the video…
Go away terms and conditions! Shut up lane assist it’s a country road… how do I turn it off? The reverse beep is a little bit loud at 3am. It’s got the performance it’s not got the handling to match the performance. Careful it could be icy! IKNOWI’VEGOTEYES!!!1… XD
If they lost (did not include) the black gloss the interior would be spot on.
Have a good Christmas?? It's the middle of January! :-)
Is Niro EV still recommended in 2024?
I test drove the e-Niro and Kona each for 3 days and although very similar cars, the interior of the Kona turned me off the car.
I ended up getting the EV6 but we are now looking at an e-Niro for my wife.
Hello mate
Bought a Kona EV.. 2021. Paid $32,000 us after tax credits and rebates… selling it for $38,800 and getting a 2022 Prius Prime… comes with no range anxiety free of charge! See what I did with that!
If they put the drive motor in the rear, gave it a frunk (or froot) and gave it 125kw of charging speed, the vehicle would be ready for at least 2-3 more years on the market. (It would basically be an ID.4)
My partner and I used to have a 2019 Bolt and a 2020 Kona. The Kona got notably better efficiency, especially at higher highway speeds than the Bolt in pretty much all conditions. It rivaled the Tesla Model 3 that we now have (in efficiency). We ended up selling the Kona because the used car market went insane (we made money selling it) and it was starting to have reliability issues. It spent a month in the shop getting the drive motor replaced (it was making noise at lower speeds). It also had to have 2 of the door lock actuators replaced. This was all in less than 1 year of ownership (from new). It also had lots of bugs and glitches. The adaptive cruise control would go out for at least an hour every time we took it on a road trip. Sometimes it would decide that it just didn’t want to charge when plugged in overnight, yet it never set a fault (multiple different chargers). Sometimes the backup camera wouldn’t work. The brakes also drove me bonkers, especially the transition between regen and friction braking. There was no way to smoothly do a moderate stop in that car, especially if you hit the brakes suddenly (like if the traffic light in front of you changed to yellow and you neeeded to stop faster than normal). It was always either a normal, casual stop or full on panic stop with nothing in between. I could also never get consistent fast charging speed, and despite monitoring thermals, I could never figure out why. There were just lots of things about the car that made it seem sort of half-baked, like an unfinished or rushed project, so we kept the Bolt, sold the Kona and bought a Tesla Model 3. I don’t have any connection with the Tesla personally, it is very much an appliance to me (which is very odd for me) but my partner likes it and it is arguably the best electric vehicle *drivetrain* available in any vehicle at the moment. It’s just unfortunately attached to a pretty mediocre and questionably built car.
The new MG ZS & facelifted MG 5 to come out this year will prove tough competition.
The Kia Niro is a great car, but it does have a fairly hefty price tag. But you don't hear of many issues with them 👍
If and when we go electric, it will probably be MG, either ZS or 5. Both of those make a very strong case for value for money. We qualify for motability and the e Niro isn't even on the list.