After 6 months and 7000 miles what's the Kia E Niro really like ?
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- My 6 month take on the Kia e -niro after 7000 miles
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I'm preparing to buy a Niro EV, so I've been watching a ton of videos. This is head and shoulders the best. Clear, useful, objective advice with no hype.
Thank you 😊, my 3 year 33k mile update video soon ! ( spolier , its still as good as this 7k mile review)
@@JonathanPorterfield how do you feel about the ride comfort/suspension especially when the road surface is bumpy, compared to others you have driven?
I very rarely add a comment on TH-cam, but in this case I am driven to do so. Thankyou Jonathan for a very useful and informative video, with unbiased content. I'm now going to watch more of your videos. Excellent!!
Thanks Richard, i really appreciate your comments ! 👍😉
8,000 Miles + in 5 months in my 4+, company car absolutely awesome car, converted my wife from fossil to electric, within 7 days she called it "her" car.... 4.4mi/kWh for those 8,000 miles in ours, mixture of local & dual carriageway miles. Keep up the good work!
I have had my eNiro 4+ for 6 months now, with nearly 12000 mile on it, I spend most of the time on the motorways. Really impressed with this car and agree, its has the perfect sweet spot for distance, comfort and ease of use. Well balanced review Jonathan.
Thanks Jason 👍
Have had a 4+ for 4 months. Just can’t justify spending an additional 20-30k for anything people think are better. Kia have done a phenomenal job at this price range.
Brilliant real world day to day use Jonathan. Your enthusiasm & knowledge have obviously rubbed off as you have supplied so many e-Niros to customers. In my opinion the e-Niro is the sweet spot for driving range and family vehicle size, a lot of new design EVs are either too big for real world town driving or still limited in driving range or both. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Richard for your comments and support 👍
@@JonathanPorterfield So, initial low battery warning warning comes on at 8% which is roughly 18-20miles on the GOM, Mr turtle 🐢 shows his face at 5% 10-12miles, finally the deadly --- 3 dash GOM reading basically means drive at your own risk! Generally shows at around 3-4% after which your own your own pal! 😆
This guy is very good. He is so funny as well. “ just a bloke thing” also “I’m 6 4 and Isla is 5 foot 10. That’s means there is 6 inches between us” absolutely hilarious.
Totally agree on everything in this review, Ive got the 2019 version with around 50.000km on the odometer, family with 2 kids and 2 dogs, fits perfectly, comfy, still love the car!
I have e niro for 15 months with 55 thousand kilometres and I am still getting 475 kilometres for 93 PC charge ,love the car
Wonderful, a great realistic unbiased review which I find is getting hard to find on TH-cam these days.
Thank you, appreciate your comment 🙏 😊
First time i watched a full car review without skipping some parts, brilliant!
Thank-you, that means a lot , really appreciate your support.
Great video, just purchased one myself, agree with everything you have said. Look forward to the year ahead.
Great review!! I drive the 2021 model since 2 months now. I changed jobs and my new employer told me my new company car had to be electric and after some research I chose the eniro. Although I was pretty sceptical about the electrical driving, I now absolutely love the car!!
Great review Jonathan. I’ve had my e-Niro for 6 months and done just over 10,000 miles. I drove it from Lancashire to Bondorf in Germany in September. Found the projected range to be a bit off but that was due to higher speed limits in France and Germany. We had an experience of less than 10% when we were heading back. We actually got to - - - miles left on the range as we pulled in to charge it up. I don’t think this was the car’s fault - it was just unlucky that the charger we needed was on the opposite side of the motorway so we had to go past, turn around and then go back the opposite way to get to the right services.
My wife and I’s heights are exactly the same as yours. I LOVE the memory driver seat positions - they are excellent!
I have always wanted a Tesla cos they’re pretty and techno-sexy but I gotta say the Kia is a superb car and I would choose it over a Tesla any day!
Yes, happy wife ......happy wife , no more grumbles about me leaving the seat in the wrong position !
Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
Love knobs and buttons so would never get a Tesla.
Same for me, had my E niro 4+ for 6 months, just over 5000 miles and a fantastic car. Love all of the toys and the extra bongs every now and then just remind you the tech is there and working. Such an easy drive with LKA and adaptive cruise switched on, motorway driving and traffic jams are much easier to deal with! I have had no range anxiety, knowing I can do around 250 miles and I set a rule that look to recharge if car is at 20% (Unless only a few miles from destination where I know I can charge.
Longest trip was 210 miles to Southampton, arrived and fully charged for free in shopping centre car park whilst car was left overnight. Got home with range of 65 miles left on the GOM!! Amazing car and even in winter averaging 3.5 miles/kWh
I’ve had my E-Niro 4+ for exactly a year and covered 7000 miles - totally delighted with the car. I have fitted a frunk and gas struts for the bonnet - this is ideal for conveniently storing my charging cable and a few other odds and ends. I have booked a viewing for the forthcoming Niro EV at my local Kia dealer in Forfar, Angus. Who knows, a second Niro may be on the cards?
Hi Jonathan. I love your videos and you definitely helped my decision to purchase a gorgeous Steel Gray 2022 Niro EV EX Premium. We purchased it in Utah and it arrived in Longmont, CO two days ago. It was very gently used for 9 months and 6,580 miles, and was priced @ $34,795 - around $6,600 to $7,100 below book value! Orig. list price was $47,290. My wife ('her car') and I are thrilled. Keep up the good work and remember: Not all who wander are lost. Regards, Mike
Hi Mike , thank you so much for your kind words about my videos , I really appreciate it.👍
The e niro is still brilliant for me , ive just passed 25,000 miles, and i still dont want anything else , even the new Niro EV doesn't interest me as it's not as efficient!
Enjoy your e niro , and try not to argue on who's to drive it ! 😉
@@JonathanPorterfield Thanks Jonathan! Great to hear. I don't like the exterior or interior styling on the 2023 e niro. Our car has done 4.5 mi/kWh over its now 7,732 mile life - the same as our '13 Leaf did over the 39k+ miles in the 9+ years we owned it! Amazing efficiency for the huge upgrade in comfort, safety, luxury, etc.! We are loving it and trade off driving. ;-} I wanted to post that I did upgrade the Reverse Light Bulbs to LEDs and it has helped some with the quality of the image at night. AUXITO 912 921 LED Bulb for Backup Light Reverse Lights High Power 2835. Maybe the lights need to be physically higher up on the car. Regards, Mike
Good honest review. I’ve had my 4+ for almost 4 months and I am delighted with it. Interesting comments on charging on longer journeys and no mention of range anxiety. As an aside I’ve fitted my e Niro with gas struts to support and lift the bonnet. An easy conversion and quite cheap at about £30.
Hi David, compliments on your doggo. Have the same breed home.
I have a question about the gas struts, would you have any link or suggestion, where to start?
Great video as always, Jonathan. They're always full of excellent advice and facts.
Thanks phil ,appreciated your comments and for watching 👀 👍
@@JonathanPorterfield You're welcome, Jonathan. I always enjoy every video that you make. Keep up the good work
Agree with everything Jonathan. 12 months done and 16,500 miles. Always charged at home on 7.2kw wall box. Never needed anything else and we live in rural Ireland with a terrible charging network. Cost for the year: €320 of electricity. I love it. The perfect all round car. Absolutely hate having to drive my wife's diesel jeep now. Like going back to horse and cart! Just ordered a Camwipe. Thanks for the link. Niro a bit sore on front tyres and front charging flap had to be replaced, and wish you could turn off the lane assist when the adaptive cruise is on but that's the only niggles. Looking forward to getting the 2023 version hopefully.
We have averaged 4.5 m/kWh over 11000 miles driving on eco. Great 👍
Thanks Jonathan for your thorough review. We got our e-Niro in March 2019, one of the first batch to come into France where we live, I think you call the FE (first edition) in the UK. Ours doesn’t have the heated things, sunroof or fancy stereo but it has LED headlights and heat pump. Like you we have a ‘rural life’ and the car is used like a van sometimes and is the perfect size for us, I too think the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are too big for our needs. We are now 53,000 km in and we love this car. Had some fun and games in the UK last month, my first trip back there in almost 2 years but managed to find places to charge OK. Kia e-Niro Diaries Encore on TH-cam for anyone who wants to track what we hope will be a long term ownership experience.
Great review. I've had my e-Niro for a couple of months now and it's brilliant. Like you it does exactly what I need it to do. Haven't been on a long trip with it yet and I also wouldn't want to drive 400 miles with stopping, so the range is ideal. It is not the sexiest car, but why would you want to pay (often considerably) more for, in some cases, less of what's important for the sake of looks? Having had the first real frosty day of the year, getting into a preheated car is bloody luxury!
Great review Jonathan. Sounds like a great car. You went into detail that other reviewers don't cover. I'm thinking of leasing one in July.
Thanks for your comments, honestly its a great ev , get one on lease 👍 ( try Drive Electric)
Loved your review! I've had mine for more than a year and at 20k miles (32,187 km) with no noticable range loss. Still easily getting 260-280 a charge. In summer nights I drove to coast and back (260 miles total) and still had 39 miles remaining! Can carry anything in and on this SUV and has more acceleration and response than our BMW X1 and that says something. It has exceeded our expectations. As for backup camera at night, I replaced backup bulds with LED and it is fine now. Cost a fe buck and easy to replace. Replaced fog lights with LED then too (ZonCar 9006, yellow). Made a big difference. Putting a simple switch in module 4 fuse for the backup beeping solved that problem easy too.
Thank you for you comments, i will try replacing the reversing bulb 💡 😉. Im shooting my niros 1st service today too ! Hope to upload ASAP !
I’ll definitely consider this car for my next EV Jonathan. I do have to say though that the fact that the car slows down but doesn’t stop by default when in ACC is a minus. I have an ID3 and the ACC is absolutely brilliant. It slows/speeds up/stops/starts in relation to the car in front and traffic signs, roundabouts and bends. Strangely I never hear pundits on TH-cam mention this. Probably because mostly they’re making judgements without living with the car for any period of time. The range is also good while not quite as good as the eniro.
As a EV shopper based out west in the USA, these UK reviews by owners - e.g. like Andrew Till's - are quite helpful. You folks are getting EV models sooner than we do in the States, and so hearing about the performance, features and build quality of your RVs helps me lead the target. The one disconnect, because of our Western home base, is that you folks don't routinely do the long drives we do nor, in many cases, the higher speeds. That's why Andrew & family's trip to Italy and back was so informative. Thank you for the very helpful ownership summary!
Thanks Jack for watching and great to see folk watching from the States ! 😀
Thanks Jonathan, lovely video.
Thank you 😊
I thoroughly enjoyed your thoughtful review of this great car, Jonathan. My wife and I recently undertook our first long holiday trip in our 4+. We found rapid (50kW) chargers all over the place, they all worked properly and were accessed by tapping a credit card. It's definitely now time for people to get themselves an e-Niro.
Yes , Rapids with ' tap to pay ' is brilliant, my favourite network are Instavolt, so easy and they are so reliable 😊, thanks for your comment.
@@JonathanPorterfield Agreed, Jonathan. We found an Instavolt by chance in a McDonald's while searching for another in the same town. Perfect for drink and snack + charge + loo break!
Had our e-niro 4 for 16 months, agree with all you said , brilliant car
Such a brilliant review Jonathan, thank you! If I had the readies ....
Thanks Jim 👍
Very useful real world experience; thanks for sharing. 😎
Excited to see the new eNiro unveiled on Thursday
Just found your link Jonathan whilst thinking of going for an EV.
You have just convinced me to get down to KIA and check this little beauty out👍
Great review, honest, genuine and to the point.
Thank you, I am now subscribed.😁😁
Paul
Thanks Paul 👍 , it's genuinely the best all round EV ive ever owned.
26:53 honest salesman, so hard to find these days. respect!
No smoke and mirrors from me , just tell folk the TRUTH , its been my mantra since i started eco cars in 2004 ! Thanks for your comment 👍
I have a Niro HEV.. it’s a great car… I love driving it on long trips, it’s a great mile muncher, comfy and well kitted. It’s a great all rounder, it does exactly what it needs to and does it really well. It’s well thought out by Kia, well built and reliable.
How manu miles it gives on a single charge?
Hi Johnathan. Reference the charge schedule, it's similar to your 28kWh Windknife. I personally set the 1st departure time to 9am daily, with no target temperature then on Off-peak times ensure Off-peak tariffs only is selected. The daily departure time then becomes irrelevant and the Off-peak only times are always observed daily. Hope this helps. I have the MY2022 2 Long Range since 30th September and I do miss the extras I had on my Ioniq Premium SE and especially the auto moving drivers seat and the heat pump now winter has arrived.
Great review ...... comprehensive, interesting and above all honest. I am a man of a similar age and agree with the points you make about range and what a person actually needs and wants from their car. The e-Niro is clearly more than good enough for most people I think.
I test drove the e-Niro before I got my first EV at the end of May. It is a very good car but in the end I opted for the Hyundai Kona Ultimate. For me the facelift exterior of the Kona was slightly better than the e_Niro. But the boot is smaller than the e-Niro, which is a downside.
Many of the great features you've described are also in the Kona and I've been very pleased with the efficiency. I've done just over 6,000 miles and managed 4.7m/kWh.
I agree with the point you and Andrew Till have made about the size and efficiency of both the Ioniq5 and EV6. I really think if the cars had been made a bit smaller the range could have been better than you get with the e-Niro and Kona.
Got the car, love the car. Now I want to buy accessories for it, puddle lights, footwell lights, boot liner, mud guards, boot and tailgate lights and a cam wipe.
I love my eNiro, currently I have 16,500 miles on it, and have had it for 7 months. I just wish they were more fast chargers in San Antonio, Texas.
Super, finally found someone that's even happy and enthousiast as me with my MY19 and my 64000km. Only thing I do at the beginning of a trip is putting it in neutral and stop at the end of the street, a little bit further doing the same. That's to be sure there's no rust any more at the discs. Is needed since the e-Niro regens so good that the brakes are optional in normal use.
The only option for a new car will be or another e-Niro or the upcoming EV4 (800V platform) if even efficiënt as the e-Niro
Thanks Marc for your comments, and top tip on looking after the brake discs ! 👍👍
Like you Jon, 4 hours are now my max drive time before I need to rest/nap, loo break etc, Nottingham to Bournemouth is the most I can do now.
I really enjoyed this review. Looks like the e-Niro is a force to be reckoned with. Nice thumbnail too.
Thanks Tim 👍 i can recommend a really good friend who's brilliant at Thumbnails , he takes payment in craft ales too 😀
@@JonathanPorterfield he sounds like a great guy!
With all the excitement of the IONIQ 5 I kind of forgot about the e-Niro, despite it being the first electric car I seriously became interested in. I currently run a 2012 Kia Picanto which I've owned since new (the first year Kia got its now distinctive facelift) and I've had zero issues with it. Now I get excited about the likes of the IONIQ 5 and in a slightly separate ballpark the Polestar 2 as my next potential car, but in terms of sheer practicality, efficiency and value for money it feels like the e-Niro can't be beat, even if it is less new and exciting. Hopefully will be starting a family in the next couple of years and a second-hand e-Niro (or new, if my salary sacrifice lease deals are still available and good value) will likely still be on the top of the list!
Good review, thanks.
Excellent car, not the best looker, "Clumpy at the front" is a perfect description.
Looks like a Cayenne to the car in front as you catch it up!
Quite agree I have had the ENERO 4 now for 18 months now and find it great done 11000 miles averaged 4.5 KWM looking at EV6 but find it a bit to big for what I want.
Must admit never had any issues on long journeys just a little planning needed but with a car that does over 220 miles easy most people need a break before that is reached.
Also found charging network growing daily and becoming a lot more reliable.
Jonathan,
Don't forget it's highly likely that the superchargers will be available for general use before long.
Great video Jonathan. Totally agree with everything you have said. Had my E Niro 18 months and still like it. Always looking for something to replace it and can't find anything to compare with the comfort, economy and general ease of driving. Ive test driven several cars including Jaguar I pace, Tesla M3 and VW ID3. The only thing I can fault with the E Nero is the shape. If only it looked a bit more modern!!
Thanks for your comments 🙂 the e niro is great isn't it 😀
Had my e-Niro for 6 months now. Great review, totaly agree with you its a fantastic car. Lets hope there's a BEV version of the new eNiro when the new models are released tomorrow. If there is that's my next EV sorted.
Hey,
This is a great video. 😃 I just got a 2021 e Niro 4+ yesterday and I love it. If you don’t mind I’d like to ask you a few questions and if you are free at some point and able to answer that would be great 😃😃
I am going to use zap map for my charging needs through Apple CarPlay. How is the Kia nav and charger station finding on the sat nav ? I have had my car in 3 for regen but I might switch to auto after watching your video 😀. Do you think it’s beneficial for long journeys to stay in eco mode instead of normal? Does eco limit much or does everything still work normally ? Thanks again for making this 😃
I have a 2019, which I got in Jan 2020( leased for 3 years) This car is perfect for me, Like he said it does the job and very well. I have not 1 complaint about the car. And I've had lots of cars from Z-28 Camaro's to TR-6s ,Jag XKE , Caddy's, Chevy Trucks too many to list still have 4 other cars now, But this is my favorite toy it is just fun to drive just hit the gas - no noise, power bands and stuff, it just goes and quickly for a KIA! I'm looking for a replacement at the end of the year when the lease is up! So I have started to watch videos to see what's out there now. But my car charges in the Summer to between 295-313(the highest it ever charged ) but all the time 290+. and in the winter here in Wash St. It gets down to -20 F. sometimes in the winter, and I have the car outside under a carport, the lowest it has charged to in winter was 245 miles , this has been the same for the last 2 yrs I've had it.(I have 240v plug in at home) I only got the battery low enough to get the warning light 1 time I think it was at 17 miles left. So I see these reviews of new models talking about 230's miles or so makes me wonder now if I should keep this one at the end of the lease! Thou I'm interested in the EV-6 .... Here is another thing about EV's if you live where there is lot's of snow and Ice and you leave you car out in it, it will stick to it, a gas car gets very hot, the whole hood(bonnet) get's warm and melts off most of the snow and ice as you go, not so in a EV it seems to just stay the way it is until it gets warm enough outside!
Great review, thanks. Personally I like that the heated seats turn off when the car is powered down. On our old Leaf you find three days later that the kids have left the rear seat heater on. I do though like to have a VESS button. Shame they are not rated for towing. Cheers.
In EVs the amout of power needed in seat heaters is so small that it doesnt affect range TBH !
What I got from this is; if I’m you this is the perfect car and that there are some lovely places to stay over there.
I'm trying to convince my husband to getting an EV, so far I'm interested in the Niro and the Soul. Our current car is a Rio, and it's been wonderful. I'm happy to see that the fort pettles are the same design (metal and rubber grips), it adds a nice flair to the car! We love to travel, and I'm afraid he has premature range anxiety, but the EV stations are getting more frequent in our country (Canada), plus I believe he doesn't believe the performance of an EV in the snow.
Hi L C, thanks for watching from Canada, just keep showing him YT videos , you'll wear him down soon enough 😉 😀
I have a KIA e Niro, live in Pembrokeshire, work in the midlands and travel over 500 miles per week and only charge in public and have found the Niro excellent. The first service was only £68 including vat and took less than an hour and the car was washed and vacuumed for the first time. Air con in the summer included windows down and heating in the winter includes the seat and steering wheel heaters and a body warmer.As Jonathan said as they have no impact on range. Most reliable public chargers in my experience are Instavolt followed by pod point and genie. Have also done the uni run to St Andrews (471 miles fully loaded!) and found motorway service charging was pants so took short diversions to reliable chargers.
Yes , i aim just for instavolts if im driving south , CPS is still 'cross your fingers' time 🙄🤷♂️
I have had a Niro ev 3 for 7months and really love it. Had a Niro hybrid before this and knew Kia Niro was the way to go
I’m very much interested in the Niro, but I’m mostly concerned about the space, I have longer legs and I’d like to be comfortable, but It’s been difficult to find one in my area to check out… I’m glad you mention your height and talk about you comfortability… thanks so much for this review
The 4+ has the memory seats , and i find it spot on a 6'4 , and still folk can sit behind me !,
Great video. Agree on all points.
Top bloke review 👍🏻. Owned a STD 4 eniro for 11mths now with nearly 15k, Naz Ali bang correct on Mr Turtle 🐢, I took ours down to 5% just after collection from Carr & Griffiths and at top of a hill down to your house (about a mile) it went straight from 5% to limp with no power at all. Before this, declination in charge/range was proportional. Miss the memory seat...should have specified this as an option.
Just to inform you camwipe is from sweden, chap called Eldar, have it on my Kia Niro Hybrid.
Brilliant news I've just ordered a new eniro I'm picking it up in January
Enjoy 😉 it's a great EV 👍
Great video. I own the 2020 Kia Niro EV Platnum Edition with 19412 miles and I absolutely love it. The GUM is pretty accurate as you said. I’ve driven my Niro WV down to 5 percent at least 3 times. I was very close to home at that time. Turtle Mode did come on so I didn’t put any strain by driving hard. I love the car. It’s no Tesla but overall very independent to run and own. I love forward in getting the new 2023 Niro EV from Kia. Thanks for your review
Thanks David for your support and comments, yes the e niro is a great all rounder of an ev 👍What what ive read the 2022 new nero electric isnt much better as regards battery and efficiency, and im still undecided on the new looks !?
A very comprehensive, factual and honest review Jonathan, I agree with all your comments & observations.
One feature that you missed is that there is space under the boot floor to fit a spare wheel, which is very handy for long trips. Being old-school I wouldn't dream of embarking on a long journey without one. Oh, you forgot to mention the 7 year warranty too!
Personally I didn't fing the seats to be particularly comfortable on long journeys, getting a numb derriere after an hour or so. I also disliked the dreary dark interior, I have seen a light interior in these in other markets, which would be my choice, but sadly not available in the UK. Thankfully the sunroof does make it feel airy.
I sold mine after 6 months because it was a problem getting my elderly dog in and out of the boot due to the load height. We had to purchase a ramp to assist him however this than had to be transported in thr rear passenger footwell which effectively converted the car into a two seater, also it was a struggle getting it in and out due to the limited door opening and the weight of the ramp, a strain on my back.
Other than the irritating startup and shutdown tune and seat comfort issue it was a really enjoyable car and I would thoroughly recommend it as a great all-round EV.
The newly launched facelift looks a lot better design wise, more up to date with a more futuristic looking interior.
It was good listening to your review and honest thoughts about the car. 👍
IMO, It is still the best value for money EV available at the moment.
My wife and I find the seats in our 4+ to be the most comfortable we've ever used, whether as driver or not. Worth a long test-drive to check, in view of your findings.
Great revision!! Thank you! :-)
Got mine yesterday. 2021 kia niro 3 64kw
Cant fault the car so far. Fast as a rocket!! Smooth, range seems to be pretty impressive. Only complaint so far is the lack of right arm support when driving.. the door card is too narrow to rest your arm when windows closed, unless you position the seat really low down, its a bit inconvinient.
Quite noticably loud on motorways too
Other than that its a 10/10 car so far
Thanks for the review, I’m going to buy a late 21 4+ tomorrow fed up with my Mercedes c250 CDI going wrong, looking forward to years of economic driving.
Thanks for you comments, genuinely the best car ( that happens to be an EV) ive ever owned , and being a car dealer since 2004 , I've owned and driven a 'few' !
Good review, I find it funny you get to use the sunroof up there ;)
Yes , ive opened it once sine last May ! Ohh those 10 minutes where amazing !
Really useful review - thanks :)
Im now at 29,900 miles , its still does everything i want , nothing else interests me !
I recently drove 200 odd miles from London back to the North West, quick refresh break but no inclination to charge. Hit "- - -" about 7 miles from home and 5%, arriving on 2% with the heating on to keep windscreen clear. This confirms for the second time that the Niro 64 kWh will do ~10 miles on dashed mileage if driven conservatively.
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Great review. I've had mine here in the states for 6 months/10k miles, and I love it. Taken it for a couple of trips that needed public charging.....not hard to do at all, just requires a couple minutes of planning. It definitely meets 100% of my needs too.
Thanks Ben for your commnets , the E Niro is brilliant isnt it 😀 👏 !
@@JonathanPorterfield sure is. I know it isn't the cool new sexy EV, but I can't figure out why it isn't featured in more EV conversations. If the dealers tried to sell them at all, they wouldn't be able to keep them on the lots.
@@benwinslow3101 they sell very well here in UK , Kia's best seller infact in uk
@@JonathanPorterfield oh good, its well deserved in my opinion
April of 2022 will be 1 year that I have had my Niro eco / Hybrid 2021. Not knowing anything about an all electric car, my salesman explained it all and I didn't want to mess around with all the charging instructions. A 1/4 of the manual is just about that. So he showed me the eco /hybrid stating it's both gas and electric AND ALL YOU DO IS DRIVE THE CAR. I liked that!
BTW: This is the mid range model. The lower class model didn't have the extras that I wanted.
I've got 10, 500 miles on this car. I drive it 3 days a week to work 100 miles round trip. My gas mileage is awesome. I'm averaging 49 MPG! NO PROBLEMS OF ANY KIND THUS FAR.
I really like this car, with no spare tire it had a funky foam made area for a spare, but I chose to pull it all out which makes a ton of room for storage. The only frustrating thing about this car is the front grill work. They went over the top with a grill just below the hood, with a diamond 3d pattern. Bug season in Arizona is bad enough. I have to clean the front end on every trip. But this grill is a pain in the "Gass" to clean with all the little crevices and you just can't get it all clean. I really like this car.
Normally when you buy a new car you'll see a bunch of them on the road. I hardly ever see another car like mine. My salesman hit the nail on the head when he said "your Niro is grossly undersold as people either go for the high end model or the lower class model", which floored me. The funny part of all is that I googled the top rated company (can't think of it now) that puts out all kinds of ratings for all makes of cars for many years now. They highly recommended this car yet it is undersold.
Cheers, I’ve ordered the new e Niro and after your review of yours l am even more eager to get it! (Delivery eta September!)
You'll love it , thanks for watching too 😊
Hi Jonathan, just thought I would share a couple of my own experiences with the 4+ Firstly, the car tends to coldgate if the temperature is very low (e.g. 2 or 3 degrees and below). An example of this was lower maximum charge speed and the car reducing charging speed at 70% rather than the normal 76% even though I had driven 150 miles that day (which should have warmed the battery). Secondly to release a type 2 cable from the car you have to lock and then unlock the car, which means shutting the doors, locking the wife in etc. It would be better just to press unlock on the key fob. ps I notice you seem to be on an older software version than mine, which might explain why I found scheduled charging very simple. Aside from a few very minor niggles it’s very relaxing to drive even in city and motorway traffic and certainly the best car I have ever had! Thank you Jonathan, the Reflex Project and Drive Electric.
I just press unlock on the key fob and it releases the cable on my 4+
Great review down to earth and very practical, it has confirmed I made the right choice in buying one for the wife as an everyday car it does everything so well. I have added a RHD Frunk and gas struts, a very easy job to do and came with VAT free export From Austria, rear wiper from woodward digital, mud flaps from eBay along with boot protection foil. We have PV on roof of house so EV was a no brainer coupled with a Zappi home charger, I am hoping for no cost motoring other than tyres and maintenance and that can be reduced with KIA prepaid 3 to 5 year contract from local KIA dealer who has been truly 5* in helping us through the journey to EV ownership, They are KIA Washington West Sussex and see Matt Hemmingway for sales a great people person.
The car not remembering the auto hold is my biggest negative in the ioniq. I've now trained myself to press it. However coming from a VW which remembered auto hold I was disappointed it wasn't as convenient.
Great review and just what I needed - thank you. I'm moving across to a 4+ on Saturday from the MG ZS EV (good & quiet on the motorway/surprisingly practical, but not enough range for me ultimately with work). I'd wondered if it has a heat pump - which you've confirmed, the real world efficiency - which you provided. I had a test drive last week and I thought that it drove really well, certainly much less floaty than the MG, more body control. Stereo with the sub was really good I thought - I've seen a few unkind reviews out there on the sound. Leagues better than the MG anyway.
The boot did look small on first glance, but then I realised it's a fairly wide car, so maybe 5 bags of supermarket shopping across the width and a couple more in front?
On the range front, journey's outside the county with the MG were always a bit of a lottery with public charging, but I agree that the range of the e-Niro is transformative and I won't hesitate in being able to take it fully up the country. On that subject, do you know how fast the rapid charging rate is? I know on the First Edition it was 77Kw (like the MG). I've also heard that keeping the battery above 20% allows it to charge more quickly.
We were up in summer doing the NC500 - lovely part of the world - lucky man! Keep up the great reviews!
Hi ,thanks for your comments , yes the max charge rate DC is still 77kWs , but depends on battery % SOC , and temperature, and output of the Rapid.
As a 6 footer myself I'm glad to hear the legroom is generous. It's the same with the Kia Sportage.
Great review and some new features just discovered on my side, thank you! I’ve had my eNiro for 2 years now and last night was the first time I ended with 8% battery warning with only 19miles left. I knew I had 9miles to home so continued albeit slowed down from 70mph to 50 and moved to lane 1. Then the battery changed to 5% with a big Warning “Charge immediately” and the range disappeared into “--“, not a great feeling when on a motorway. But since I knew there was at least 12miles range left in the battery I continued on. As soon as I turned to my local road with a familiar Pub I felt safe whatever. Got home with 4% of battery left, so all good in the end. Love this car but it consumes more with icy weather ❄️
Did you see Mr 🐢 ? ,and thanks for watching 👀
Yes now you mention it, there was a turtle 🐢 sign. :) most important, not to panic, leave the highway if possible and confidently (at a slower pace) get home knowing there is at least 10miles left even if none are shown anymore “--“ with 5% battery . Thanks again for your videos! 👍🏼
@@nataliap5386 welcome to the turtle club 🤪👍👏👏🐢
Jonathan I agree about model 3 I am 57 and I need something higher now. I don’t care about the supercharger network.
You hit the nail on the head. It's not sexy it's a bit boring but it's a really good proposition. I'm 6'8" and fit fine. Had turtle mode for first time the other day. Got home with 2% left and was worried but I had pushed it further than I usually do. Had it 2 years (35k miles). Looked at IONIQ5 and EV6 as replacements and don't see the extra price justifies the swap. Still might be tempted by a model Y but not sure yet. That's a lot more ££££.
The Y only has a touch screen... no knobs or even a speedometer etc through the steering wheel. No thanks.
Looking at trying to get a 2 long range before they become unavailable. Perfect car for us.
We don't have charging facilities at home but recently they have put some fast chargers in our local town centre and some superchargers 3 miles away. Not perfect but certainly workable.
Its a great ev 👍
Thanks, great review! What about this car with two kids? What about boot space?
Hi Jonathan. I have just watched this video about the E-niro. Really enjoyed it. One thing i didn't hear you mention, was the ride quality. With the state of our roads in the UK, what is the Kia like on , less than perfect tarmac? Many thanks 👍
Hi , thanks for watching, the ride in the e niro is soft , so no good for 'throwing around on a track' but ive found it fine over our great roads in the uk 😊
Hi Jonathan, the Kia Niro EV is a great car as I took a test drive in the hybrid version back in April 2021 but when I got out the car I had chronic back pian and yes I do suffer with a bad back but the pain would have been to much to handle on a daily basis and this is after a 30 minuet test drive. I have since got a 2021 Honda CR-V hybrid and I love it to bits. One last point the the Kia Niro has a CD of 0.29 the same as the new Bentley flying Spur. Kia make great cars but just not for me
Has to be my next taxi. I want efficiency vs big battery dsl thinkers. Unfortunately the ev6 is inefficient
Love that brush on the camera lens. Genius idea!
Same here...£15 off eBay..just bought one.
Only thing i would change is remove the small sunroof and replace it with a fixed pano roof giving the rear some light into it.
I have the same "affliction" regarding turning down the radio coming up to junctions 😂. Must be an age thing like the "comfort stops" !!!
Great review.
I'm buying my first Kia (EV6) in January and I'm all about Kia (and Hyundai) EV's at the moment.
Thanks for your comments, us old guys need to stick together! Enjoy your EV6 👍
The Niro does have an auto volume control based on speed.
Think I got turtle mode at 7% in the kona and did not notice it to be too different from eco mode on a 30 mph road but wasn't testing the acceleration exactly.
Not sure if E-Niro is same, but I changed the incandescent reversing light bulb in my Kona for a LED one, and the extra brightness makes a big difference to rear camera night image quality
Yes, the reversing lights are feeble. There is a kit to change them, at least in the US, which involves removing the rear bumper moulding, but it looks worth doing. The cam-wipe is a good idea too.
Kona Hyundai not kia
@@yoggi9336 Yes it is. I drove a couple before choosing the Kia. I was pointing out that, like the Kona, the e-Niro needs better rev lights, and that there is also a mod for this. Thanks for reading my comment anyway, you were right to raise it.
@@yoggi9336 Considering Hyundai owns a sizable share of Kia, it is not uncommon for the two companies to share technology/features.
Great video. Very informative and extremely useful. I'm going to get the just announced new 2023 model when it's eventually available because that fixes the average looks which is the only reason not to love this motor.
Mmm yes , only its mother could love the e niro , but once inside , its great on looks 👌 😄
Wondering what EV to get next as my eGolf lease runs out next year. Very tempted with the eNiro after seeing your video. I think Kia have an e-Niro refresh coming out 2022. I hope they haven’t made it bigger and more expensive!
Unveiled on Thursday apparently!
I'll wager it's not smaller and cheaper......
I have had the battery down to 5% on one occasion (when turtle mode kicked in), due to me vacating a rapid very early to allow another car in. We had both been waiting for the car in front to finish charging (to 95% -grrrr). However it didn't affect me too much as I was only 3 miles from home in 30mph roads and I was able to charge for 5 hours on my cheap Octopus tariff.
I agree - great car.
Seriously looking at buying an e-niro
British made rear camera wiper for Niro on eBay for £15 works very well
Ohh good find 👍
I recently got the hybrid Niro. I wanted the ENiro but the price was just more than I could manage at the moment. I test drove one though and the one thing I noticed was that the transmission was weird. In lower speeds (25-40 MPH) it would lurch weirdly (like if you were driving a stick and either needed to shift up or down a gear). I'm told that the transmission is "smart" and adjusts to your driving habits. But, just that little bit made me decide not to push it with the eNiro (I might have been able to swing it but the idea of getting a car that drove like in the city, which is where most of my driving would be, was just not worth the risk)
In 'sport' mode the e niro is very sensative to the throttle and the slightest movement of your right foot will be felt in acceleration.
To be honest my Niro hybrid 2020 is one of the best cars I’ve driven so far. Just some side notes though. Most of the time I drive with cruise control on and I like drive one peddle drive when not on. But the car does not put one peddle on when coming from cruise control. Also missing USB ports in the back. Some other strange thingy why are the indoor lights no leds??? Thank you for the tip about the camwhiper. I ordered it right after seeing your story.
Why aren't main headlights led too?
Great review Jonathan, I will call you today looking for second EV. Well done 👌🏻
Hi Scott can you e mail info@reflexorkney.co.uk, and im now working Mon to Fri only !
@@JonathanPorterfield no problem have a well earned rest 👍🏻
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the review. I've had mine a couple of weeks and absolutely love it, but can already see what you mean about the reverse camera. I've found similar products to the Camwipe on ebay/amazon which are about half the price and are also just 3D printed, but some of the reviews say they are a bit rubbish. Do you think it's worth going for the Camwipe and holding out for the 4 week delivery times over one of these?
Ive nothing to compare the camwipe too , just to say mine works fine without issues.
@@JonathanPorterfield thank you
I have a 2018 Nissan leaf Tekna , I preheated the other morning as normal as it was frosty . I found myself saying to my wife that although the steering wheel and seat were toasty warm , the indicator stalk was cold 😂 . 1st world aye ?
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