@@cinemasanders977 Support is done on them lol now, It's all the RTX series only and onwards ! 😓, It's a way to force or incentivise people to buy the newer cards, So that they can make more money ! 🥳
@@sentrien3877 Well of course, that's how they want it. I'm actually using MSI Afterburner to overclock my Nvidia GPU. Some reason Gforce just can't seem to have that feature for their own hardware.
Hahaha except make sure your PC doesn’t go into sleep mode when you are scanning your Automatic Tune. I was not paying attention and had to reset 2x lol.
Yeah Geforce Experience has had this for about 3 years now. You had to go into settings and enable experimental features for the "performance" tab to show up in the overlay.
Exactly, I undervolt my 4090 to 900mv and 320W at a 3-5% performance lose. Thermals are lower than a 4080 while gaming, while also helping my power bill.
@@scipher99 they seem to be careless about energy saving while caring more about firestrike scores. I got more than 50 watt less in power while did also OC and had no performance loss. Got me wondering why in hell it wasn't shipped like that. Only explanation that there are some chips those unstable enough to do so they just push more power to all the chips
@@AlaaSalehLE Boost clocks are temp dependent so the cooler the die runs the higher the clocks until you hit that limit where more power is needed. I took a 5% performance lose but was able to get down to around 320W on my 4090. I also run mine EKWB in a loop from GPU to 360 rad to CPU to a second 360 rad back to reservoir. I tried a single thicker 360 rad but the 14900K was giving the loop too much heat soak. I need that near silent running, and I start to hear the fans over 70% rpm. You are correct about some chips being unstable at lower power levels so Nvidia just brute forces more power for stability. I would have loved a EVGA Kingpin 4090 but sadly that is no longer an option, so I settled on a really good undervolting Asus Tuf that can reach 900mv stable. I had to go through 3 cards before I found a good one for undervolting with no coil whine.
I ve been searching for weeks to improve my fps drops in mw3. Finally, your video solved my problem. It was the VRAM limit on the config file, set to 0.8. I put it to 2.00000 and now i have no fps drops. Thank you, good job!
DSR (old) or DLDSR (new) and DLSS and independent from eachother. You can use both together or one exclusively. DLSS uses a lower internal resolution and upscales it to screen size, while using AI algorithms to preserve as much quality as possible depending on the setting. DSR upscales to set resolution factors. and sizes it down again to fit the screen. DLDSR being the new version using AI upscaling (1.78 and 2.25 factors), which gives comparable quality to 4x DSR upscaling without the extreme performance impact. Some people swear by 2.25 DLDSR and DLSS Quality together for best quality with relative low cost.
@@itsprod.472 To be honest I did this on two desktops and I can't remember. I do know that when it completely finished, I just closed the app down altogether and simply restarted both computers and it worked fine. It holds the updates settings so long as it finishes completely. It does take up to an hour plus but not bad for a soft overclock, hope that helps you some?
This has been there since a long time like 2 years I guess.. it's on the ctrl+z pop up nvidia menu.. u can again tune it to get more increase in the overclocking till ur system can't handle it anymore
so basically its not a one click thing, just a cautious msi afterburner without the full on screen overlay of stats, but to properly overclock you... have to do the same as afterburner
10gb shader cache is actually recommended nowadays. Modern games can have a shitload of shaders, like Star Citizen, and you get a framerate boost with allocating at least 10gb instead of default
low latency mode in 4:30 is an option that already exists in games, it is called nvidia reflex option, you'll find it in supported games, if you couldn't enabling this option will give you better latency, but bare in mind if you have a bottlenecked system this will only make things worse at most cases, and make sure you have one of either on, cause having both on can hurt your performance and possibly latency too, thanks for the review mate
I have a rtx 4060 with 45w only got it on a good deal. So I tried overclocking and it gave me huge fps boosts. About the heat it doesn’t really matter to me since i play in an air conditioned room and the cooling pad helps a lot as well. Overall pretty good experience for a first timer 😅
You can also lower the power consumption. I lowered mine from 100% to 90% and in both instances got virtually the same numbers with better power efficiency.
I’d suggest pushing voltage, power and temp target/limits up to max (the sliders below on the screen) before tuning… give the gpu all the juice it deserves to get the best result… watch temps and adjust fan settings also (the other slider) to try to keep the gpu cool during testing…
@@wildcat002 The power max is independent of frequency and memory overclock.. it may somewhat limit your maximum OC… but not something I’d worry over. Check there’s not a setting you’re missing to ‘unlock’ those settings. OC s/w often disables such settings until you’ve agreed to a liability waiver… :)
DLSS downscales an image while attempting to retain quality. Running DLSS at 1080p is like running somewhere between 1600x900/1920x1080. For best results, if you still have headroom for performance is running DSR in lets say 1440p then running DLSS. The AA quality will be better with a performance similar to that of 1080p but better image. DSR is mainly for use with monitors that don't support a higher resolution. It's not outdated, it just does what it was intended.
on the global settings, are those the same settings as control pannel or are they completely different settings? also does the automatic tuning reduce input latency in games like cod?
FPS is irrelevant without context. Saying 2-3 fps can be 10% improvement if the baseline is 30 fps, or 1% if the baseline is 300 fps. Better talk in percentages than fps
@Codelife nvidia gpu overclock automatic Msi afterburner has the exact same feature since quiet some time now the algorythm used to achive this even is from nvidia themselfs so the nvidia app very likley just now uses the exact same algorythm for auto overclock
I actually lost performance. My own personal overclock yield better results. But is a nice tool for people who are new or not willing to go through the hassle of tuning it themselves.
I'd be most interested in an Automatic graphics adjuster to target frames per second. Like 60 FPS for RDR2 it will adjust the graphics in the game to target 60.
app isn't required. even the base nvidia geforce experience can do this. alt+z, performance on the far right. its labeled "enable automatic tuning" but be sure to close all applications before doing this. and it will take 10+ mins
And they do it all while quietly sending off all your personal information on the backend through port forwarding and telemetry, and you don’t mind that right?
By the way. If your video card is lower than gtx16 series, you can't overclock it! you still have to use msi afterburner, so afterburner isn't useless still
@@X_irtz Yeah, im thinking of either 2080TI or just shoot up to 3080, My Cpu is I7-9700k So i don't know which Bottlenecks and what's not, im sure these two Gpus wont though.
Hi I had a look at this don’t know if you cut the video but when I clicked on the slider a disclaimer came up warning tuning your gpu or changing performance limits may cause your pc to show visual artifacts. Your pc may become unstable
This new auto scan is completely useless waste of time. Afterburner is light years ahead especially with undervolt setting with curves and also OC capabilities. +200MHz on VRAM clock is a joke on 4090 where even the worst sample will give you + 1000MHz easily or even +1500. Same for the core clock and now I am talking stable values with good temps. Of course NVidia is labeling as safe when it is basicaly doing nothing at all. After minutes of scanning it will come up with this? To be fair auto OC s useless in general even with afterburner....
Did this with my 3090 and the gain was negligible. I leave it on, but I think it was cheap on the mem side of the upgrade. Could def be pushed way further.
it didn't change a lot for me but i guess it depends on your configs and still they say it cannot damage your pc but im not confident about that, i guess i will see..
Nice video but also i have a question my performance monitoring only says My CPU utilasation and everything other is just at 0 at all times what should I do? It would really help out...!
I have a 4070 and the max clock on this is +200 mhz meaning that its overclocked at the factory and has a cap on it that wont exceed its limit. I can run the clocks up as much as i want but it will always default to its cap. For anyone interested.
Thanks for the informative and interesting review. Sadly, I don't have a DLSS option as I'm using a 3080 ti. Maybe I'm missing something I'm not aware of but oh well.
DLSS is not better than DSR and doesn't do the same thing either. DSR - Renders image higher than your native resolution, and then downsamples it back to your native resolution. This will produce a crisper image, AA will look cleaner, image will be sharper. DLSS - Renders image lower than your native resolution, depending on what setting it will be a miniscule drop in native resolution or a larger drop in resolution. Then it uses AI to upscale back to your native resolution, this will gain you fps and will look slightly worse than native if using quality dlss and you may not actual notice a difference in image quality vs native depending on the game. However DLAA uses the same technology as DLSS, but instead it renders your native resolution and then if you have performance to spare the AI will supersample your resolution to provide better AA than most other AA solutions games offer, this will however impact fps quite significantly. I have tested a lot of different things, and I feel like the best way to go is DLDSR. This is where you use DSR to render a native image higher than your native resolution, and combine it with DLSS. So for example, lets say you play on 1080p but use DSR factors to render at 1440p. Then you run DLSS in conjuction with it, the AI will render slightly lower than 1440p, then upscale to 1440p and finally downsample to 1080p. A good balance between image quality + performance.
Is this any different in function to the overstock scanner function of Afterburner or the other GPU apps?? My Galax 4070 app has an OC scanner built in as well.
I know you posted this 5 months ago but honestly they need to fix their problem I'm sure everyone agrees with me since the last upgrade Nvidia has not been the same. The game crashes something with the overclock It's not working the correct way so just crash the game I really hope they fix this problem quickly because it's really getting on my nerves
I'm sure it will improve soon, now that the Nvidia app is officially out of beta. Hopefully it can only get better from here onwards! Thanks for sharing btw, it's always interesting to read peoples experiences
honestly with how conservative it is I dont think its worth it over just testing the max you can push out your GPU with something like MSI afterburner for example my 3060 ti I overclock my memory by 1000 MHz with no problem and my gpu clock at 175 MHz. (dont do this on every card this just specifically works for me and my GPU) but I've had no instability and no crashes on this, while yes its nice to save the time by having Geforce do it, its much more worth it to take the little extra time it takes to watch a video if you're not experienced and just do it yourself
eh, the app is still super conservative, I'm finding it limits itself to like +150-200 on the cores and +200 on the VRAM (on a 4090), where as my own personal OC I can easily achieve double to triple that on the cores (+565, to final clock of 3100mhz, from 2535) and +2000 on the VRAM.
Use this if you want little to no improvement at all after waiting 30 minutes. I had an overclock setup for my 4070 (Alan Wake 2 is a beefy boy) already and decided to try this. It decided the best thing would be to overclock my card 80% less than I did. Take into consideration that I was already at what basically everyone considers the best spot for the 4070 to be at, which is NOT a heavy overclock.
@@alaouiadnane Last weekend it happened again 😢 Just around 250.- but still. Yesterday and today I was only thinking about the Kingston Renegade 4TB Nvme with 7300 MB/s Speeds which costs 229.- but now I'm again low on money 😢 I just installed the new 24H2 Update from Windows, new install, could have done that on a new drive but no 😢 Why won't I learn 🙁😞
It's been in the Geforce experience a LONG time ago......4 years ago to be exact. MY GOD! It is and was under the heading performance. It takes a while though.
the display i have is a48"LG c3 good for 4096x2160 OLED 120Hz and 12 bit Color with a pixel response of 0.1ms, I ran the GPU Auto tune on the 4070ti super. Brought the card up to 2995Mhz and the Vram up to 10,700Mhz. brought the 1% lows up about 8fps and the top end about 5-6fps. I did notice that the image fidelity had a very slight reduction, almost imperceivable but it was there, ( uses the 2.1 HDMI channel with a very heavily shielded/ certified cable between the GPU and display panel, 80 bucks for 4') ie the whole image had a very slight fuzziness and or visual noise while playing games after the card was so called tuned. Saying that, I do not think the average person will notice the Fussiness on smaller monitors. I was not happy with the results so i reset the gpu back to factory setting.
Hi . I have a problem since one week . When i try to optimize the game i play , it says ,, unable to load optimal values ,, , and i have a exclamation mark at the game icon. Can you tell me please , how to fix it?
I just tried it and it still has errors, there's a reason it's a beta, but in my opinion it's better to do it manually with MSI Afterburner, I had differences of approximately 5° or 6° degrees, and the FPS difference was 10 FPS or less.
this thing was around for at least a year and even before the nvidia app beta. but I would actually question its effectiveness. we would need to look at different settings on a particular system. my 4090 is in a laptop for instance so this is not a common setting. and nowadays it seems that the CPU takes the major workload, this is at least tru for the games that i play like WoW. GPU is definitely a negligible factor for WoW, surprisingly :D
What does the voltage maximum really do? I sat here and tried it on 0, 25, 50, 75, 99, 100% GPU voltage didn’t go below 1.075. Stayed stuck at 1.081. I thought I had heard it was undervolting but now idk. (Edit it did slightly change 1 thing that’s all I could see GPU power, at 100% I’m pulling 135-138 Watts, 0% I’m 131-135 Watts)
Where exactly does Nvidia state that Automatic Tuning (AT) will not damage the GPU or invalidate its warranty and why does this info not show up in the app (e.g when you activate AT)?
One thing, when you say low, mid, god tier pc could you maybe give the gpu/cpu equivalents of each that would help a lot. I love your videos thank you!! An example would be like "a mid tier pc is a 50/60 series cards"
Is there any way I can disable the automatic game optimization on this new app? Any game I open, it just sets to the max settings and I need to change them in game every time. It's such a hassle and I've been looking everywhere but I can't find anything that is helpful.
MSI afterburner is still far better. Got my 4080 to 2.95ghz core and memory to 12k(can do more but 12k nice even number). Gpu still silent temps never go above 67c in summer heat. Nvidia app gave only +130mhz on core while afterburner manual clocking +175
True but for a soft overclock this isn't bad. It depends on what you want to do really. I only play one game but I use my PC for Folding@Home which is a huge power eater (GPU mostly) so lowering my voltage down to 90% helps to keep my GPU very well in the cool range and still provides me with a "small" manageable boost. But for real world kick butt OCing? You're 100% correct MSI Afterburner is far better! I expect Nvidia to upgrade this later.
The changes they make for u wont be noticeable. They tune it at safe levels vs afterburner where u push ur card to its limits and actual gain performance.
im not sure if this has been happening before i overclocked using nvidia, but my pc has been freezing quite frequently. ive been trying to find out why and most sources say something to do with overclocking. is there anything you know about the nvidia overclock and freezing?
bro has a 4090 and still overclocking for us ...
respect
just cause its the best doesnt mean it cant be better :)
The solution is actually to optimize the games from the devs end rather than throttling gpu
I have a 4090, too. Still put a 666w BIOS on it and run it with OC while gaming since its always maxed out. Fast is good, faster is more good!
Why not gains even more fps if you can do that for free
Even the best can be better - wise person
before you install:
Automatic Tuning and Performance Limits are supported on GeForce GTX 16 series and RTX 20 series or greater GPUs
Yeah, why not GTX cards?
@@cinemasanders977 Support is done on them lol now, It's all the RTX series only and onwards ! 😓, It's a way to force or incentivise people to buy the newer cards, So that they can make more money ! 🥳
@@cinemasanders977 bc its old. "You want the new feature buy a newer one" -Nvidia (or legit every other company)
@@sentrien3877 Well of course, that's how they want it. I'm actually using MSI Afterburner to overclock my Nvidia GPU. Some reason Gforce just can't seem to have that feature for their own hardware.
After 9 million years, Nvidia decided to take and approach and implement their own overclocker. Thank you.
Hahaha except make sure your PC doesn’t go into sleep mode when you are scanning your Automatic Tune. I was not paying attention and had to reset 2x lol.
they've had this actually for a good year or two it wasnt an app itself though it was just built into the overlay that you can go into
@@calvin1280 really? never noticed.
This already exists in Geforce Experience
Yeah Geforce Experience has had this for about 3 years now. You had to go into settings and enable experimental features for the "performance" tab to show up in the overlay.
I'd be more interested in an Auto-Undervolter that sets the perfect voltage to clock level.
True
Exactly, I undervolt my 4090 to 900mv and 320W at a 3-5% performance lose. Thermals are lower than a 4080 while gaming, while also helping my power bill.
exacly
@@scipher99 they seem to be careless about energy saving while caring more about firestrike scores. I got more than 50 watt less in power while did also OC and had no performance loss. Got me wondering why in hell it wasn't shipped like that. Only explanation that there are some chips those unstable enough to do so they just push more power to all the chips
@@AlaaSalehLE Boost clocks are temp dependent so the cooler the die runs the higher the clocks until you hit that limit where more power is needed. I took a 5% performance lose but was able to get down to around 320W on my 4090. I also run mine EKWB in a loop from GPU to 360 rad to CPU to a second 360 rad back to reservoir. I tried a single thicker 360 rad but the 14900K was giving the loop too much heat soak. I need that near silent running, and I start to hear the fans over 70% rpm. You are correct about some chips being unstable at lower power levels so Nvidia just brute forces more power for stability. I would have loved a EVGA Kingpin 4090 but sadly that is no longer an option, so I settled on a really good undervolting Asus Tuf that can reach 900mv stable. I had to go through 3 cards before I found a good one for undervolting with no coil whine.
I ve been searching for weeks to improve my fps drops in mw3.
Finally, your video solved my problem. It was the VRAM limit on the config file, set to 0.8. I put it to 2.00000 and now i have no fps drops.
Thank you, good job!
DSR (old) or DLDSR (new) and DLSS and independent from eachother.
You can use both together or one exclusively.
DLSS uses a lower internal resolution and upscales it to screen size, while using AI algorithms to preserve as much quality as possible depending on the setting.
DSR upscales to set resolution factors. and sizes it down again to fit the screen.
DLDSR being the new version using AI upscaling (1.78 and 2.25 factors), which gives comparable quality to 4x DSR upscaling without the extreme performance impact.
Some people swear by 2.25 DLDSR and DLSS Quality together for best quality with relative low cost.
This is the way
exactly, (DL)DSR is amazing. this guy probably never even used it
I am always too lazy to manually oc additionally. So i tried this, and it improved my 3DMark Demo result by a little over 4%. PS: Not bad for free.
same here and using automatic mode lol
Curious do I leave it on the on switch and if I turn it off does it stay on that small increase or does it default back to factory?
@@itsprod.472 To be honest I did this on two desktops and I can't remember. I do know that when it completely finished, I just closed the app down altogether and simply restarted both computers and it worked fine. It holds the updates settings so long as it finishes completely. It does take up to an hour plus but not bad for a soft overclock, hope that helps you some?
This has been there since a long time like 2 years I guess.. it's on the ctrl+z pop up nvidia menu.. u can again tune it to get more increase in the overclocking till ur system can't handle it anymore
Been around 2-3 years , all vendor apps use exactly the same API , afterburner etc.
I guess it's alt+z
Thank you
so basically its not a one click thing, just a cautious msi afterburner without the full on screen overlay of stats, but to properly overclock you... have to do the same as afterburner
10gb shader cache is actually recommended nowadays. Modern games can have a shitload of shaders, like Star Citizen, and you get a framerate boost with allocating at least 10gb instead of default
Source: trust me bro
He is right especially the last of us@@migueltorcuator2152
low latency mode in 4:30 is an option that already exists in games, it is called nvidia reflex option, you'll find it in supported games, if you couldn't enabling this option will give you better latency, but bare in mind if you have a bottlenecked system this will only make things worse at most cases, and make sure you have one of either on, cause having both on can hurt your performance and possibly latency too, thanks for the review mate
I stacked them used rtss nvidia control panel and ingame the game became a hot mess, i want this exact thing for cpu :(
If you have both, nvidia reflex in-game will override the low latency mode in nvcp , it's not that big of a deal
Excellent!!
Thanks for the heads up!
I almost used it but was skeptical and decided to BSOD my pc myself. Now with a fresh install... I might give this a try.
😂 always the optimist my friend LOL.
I have a rtx 4060 with 45w only got it on a good deal. So I tried overclocking and it gave me huge fps boosts. About the heat it doesn’t really matter to me since i play in an air conditioned room and the cooling pad helps a lot as well. Overall pretty good experience for a first timer 😅
good to know. I have the same gpu, i try it out soon :)
How much do u mean by huge
You can also lower the power consumption. I lowered mine from 100% to 90% and in both instances got virtually the same numbers with better power efficiency.
@@JeanLeite-d1e how to lower the power consumption?
What do you mean my cooling pad?
I saw that today after upgrading my gpu . Didn't know what it was till now. Thanks
much appreciated mate, have a good one!
I turned up my gpu in armory crate by 20% on each slider and got massive gains on my 4060 A17 laptop
I’d suggest pushing voltage, power and temp target/limits up to max (the sliders below on the screen) before tuning… give the gpu all the juice it deserves to get the best result… watch temps and adjust fan settings also (the other slider) to try to keep the gpu cool during testing…
temp slider should be at the lowest so the fan spins faster to maintain lower temps
voltage slider does nothing past ampere
@@wildcat002 The power max is independent of frequency and memory overclock.. it may somewhat limit your maximum OC… but not something I’d worry over. Check there’s not a setting you’re missing to ‘unlock’ those settings. OC s/w often disables such settings until you’ve agreed to a liability waiver… :)
Bro this is an old feature. It has been in the Nvidia overlay for some time. but now it is big news cause it is in the app also. Nothing new about it.
this is the whole reason i went back to the old app. because the new app didnt have this feature until now.
This feature has been here for like 3 years in the Alt+Z menu.
@@DeepDownInTheOcean yes in the old app. The new app received an update recently that added this feature.
@@ging3rbreadtiger618 Oh. The people saying it's a new feature must be new then.
I didn't know about this. I gained +165MHz to core clock and +200MHz to memory clock on a 4060TI 16GB.
Now my gpu boosts up to 2903MHz core clock.
It works it takes time during the game play where it changes based on what it’s doing / auto overclock might show you your gpu needs service NITR0 out
Amazing video, thank you!
DLSS downscales an image while attempting to retain quality. Running DLSS at 1080p is like running somewhere between 1600x900/1920x1080. For best results, if you still have headroom for performance is running DSR in lets say 1440p then running DLSS. The AA quality will be better with a performance similar to that of 1080p but better image.
DSR is mainly for use with monitors that don't support a higher resolution. It's not outdated, it just does what it was intended.
on the global settings, are those the same settings as control pannel or are they completely different settings? also does the automatic tuning reduce input latency in games like cod?
For low latency mode, use ON when your CPU is better than your GPU (bottleneck) and ULTRA when the GPU is better than the CPU
wow imma use that
I have i5 12500h and rtx 3050 what should i use ?
@@abhijeetbishoyi9501.
WOW! TOTALLY DID NOT KNOW THIS! THANK U!
its fake, u dont gain 30% fps in any game, the more optimistic scene is that u have 2 or 3 fps plus in ur games
First time ?😂😂
@@kirabcg7091depends of what game and engine msi app doing better than this app
FPS is irrelevant without context. Saying 2-3 fps can be 10% improvement if the baseline is 30 fps, or 1% if the baseline is 300 fps. Better talk in percentages than fps
This r*tard benchmarks in fortnite...... enough has been said
@@ovidiu9329 yes, if ur game is at 30 and u do this, u probably gonna get 2 fps, when u have 130 fps, 131 or 132, but depends of the game
@Codelife
nvidia gpu overclock automatic
Msi afterburner has the exact same feature since quiet some time now the algorythm used to achive this even is from nvidia themselfs
so the nvidia app very likley just now uses the exact same algorythm for auto overclock
очень крутые видосы,смотрю тебя через переводчек алиса все очень круто продолжай в то же духе.
7:20 I think they removed the possibility to clain the pass. Yesterday I was claiming it but the site was down :/
for those who don't have RTX I can't record with the AV1 codec on the nvidia app
Because you don't have AV1 encoder
@@toddsimone7182 neerd
same here
Cuz yo broke non 4000 series gpu trash
@@csn2300 so you mean a 3090 is trash???
Nice! I will do it today.
I actually lost performance. My own personal overclock yield better results. But is a nice tool for people who are new or not willing to go through the hassle of tuning it themselves.
Cool as hell, you just earned and sub and a like!
I'd be most interested in an Automatic graphics adjuster to target frames per second. Like 60 FPS for RDR2 it will adjust the graphics in the game to target 60.
great job bro, ty
app isn't required. even the base nvidia geforce experience can do this. alt+z, performance on the far right. its labeled "enable automatic tuning" but be sure to close all applications before doing this. and it will take 10+ mins
And they do it all while quietly sending off all your personal information on the backend through port forwarding and telemetry, and you don’t mind that right?
By the way. If your video card is lower than gtx16 series, you can't overclock it! you still have to use msi afterburner, so afterburner isn't useless still
J ai un ordinateur portable avec un.gtx 1660 ti . Je viens de suivre les instructions de la vidéo et j ai eu +75 mhz 🎉. Merci pour la video😊
Recommend for ppl who are getting started on PC
me with a 1060: Aw, im left out again.
that's alright I have a titan xp and it doesn't let me do it either
Perhaps a little upgrade would help ya, doesn't even need to be the latest and greatest.
@@X_irtz Yeah, im thinking of either 2080TI or just shoot up to 3080, My Cpu is I7-9700k So i don't know which Bottlenecks and what's not, im sure these two Gpus wont though.
Use lossles scaling
i have a 750
Hi I had a look at this don’t know if you cut the video but when I clicked on the slider a disclaimer came up warning tuning your gpu or changing performance limits may cause your pc to show visual artifacts. Your pc may become unstable
Oh.. my.. god.. I had DSR turned on this whole time... I can't believe it was right under my nose
This new auto scan is completely useless waste of time. Afterburner is light years ahead especially with undervolt setting with curves and also OC capabilities. +200MHz on VRAM clock is a joke on 4090 where even the worst sample will give you + 1000MHz easily or even +1500. Same for the core clock and now I am talking stable values with good temps. Of course NVidia is labeling as safe when it is basicaly doing nothing at all. After minutes of scanning it will come up with this? To be fair auto OC s useless in general even with afterburner....
Did this with my 3090 and the gain was negligible. I leave it on, but I think it was cheap on the mem side of the upgrade. Could def be pushed way further.
this was actually in GeForce Experience too, although very hidden under the Performance Section and sometimes did not work correctly.
Ah right thanks for sharing. Glad to hear it’s improved!
How is this different from the previous GeForce OC/optimization? Is it just cause it use to be in beta?
USED
bro hasn’t this been a thing? i feel like i remember using this within nvidia in 2021
yeah in geforce experiance
it didn't change a lot for me but i guess it depends on your configs and still they say it cannot damage your pc but im not confident about that, i guess i will see..
Nice video but also i have a question my performance monitoring only says My CPU utilasation and everything other is just at 0 at all times what should I do? It would really help out...!
I have a 4070 and the max clock on this is +200 mhz meaning that its overclocked at the factory and has a cap on it that wont exceed its limit. I can run the clocks up as much as i want but it will always default to its cap.
For anyone interested.
Lets use it when the winter comes. Safe heating solution for a room or home...
for geforce to work smoothly you should activate vsync in the nvidia settings
Thanks for the informative and interesting review. Sadly, I don't have a DLSS option as I'm using a 3080 ti. Maybe I'm missing something I'm not aware of but oh well.
you definetly fucking have dlss on 3080ti
Yeah you do have it!
Nice feature but what are the realistic improvements? 3-5fps from 160-170fps? no thanks.
DLSS is not better than DSR and doesn't do the same thing either.
DSR - Renders image higher than your native resolution, and then downsamples it back to your native resolution. This will produce a crisper image, AA will look cleaner, image will be sharper.
DLSS - Renders image lower than your native resolution, depending on what setting it will be a miniscule drop in native resolution or a larger drop in resolution. Then it uses AI to upscale back to your native resolution, this will gain you fps and will look slightly worse than native if using quality dlss and you may not actual notice a difference in image quality vs native depending on the game.
However DLAA uses the same technology as DLSS, but instead it renders your native resolution and then if you have performance to spare the AI will supersample your resolution to provide better AA than most other AA solutions games offer, this will however impact fps quite significantly.
I have tested a lot of different things, and I feel like the best way to go is DLDSR. This is where you use DSR to render a native image higher than your native resolution, and combine it with DLSS. So for example, lets say you play on 1080p but use DSR factors to render at 1440p. Then you run DLSS in conjuction with it, the AI will render slightly lower than 1440p, then upscale to 1440p and finally downsample to 1080p. A good balance between image quality + performance.
This was in Geforce Experience since i got my 2080Super xd
Exactly.
you tried it? did it work well with ur 2080 super?
@@Anicrad Yeah i had a 2080S from MSI i got like 6% in performance worked realy well 😁
Is this any different in function to the overstock scanner function of Afterburner or the other GPU apps?? My Galax 4070 app has an OC scanner built in as well.
Thank you!
i have a 4090 so idk what this will do for me but ill keep it in might when my gpu is outdated in 7 years
with the RTX 4080 S that I use, I don't even want to overclock more quickly, a small undervolt for a good temperature and the same performance 😎👍
I know you posted this 5 months ago but honestly they need to fix their problem I'm sure everyone agrees with me since the last upgrade Nvidia has not been the same. The game crashes something with the overclock It's not working the correct way so just crash the game I really hope they fix this problem quickly because it's really getting on my nerves
I'm sure it will improve soon, now that the Nvidia app is officially out of beta. Hopefully it can only get better from here onwards! Thanks for sharing btw, it's always interesting to read peoples experiences
The auto overclock option has been a thing in Geforce Experience for at least a year and a half.... don't see how this is new but thanks for the vid.
yeah it was in previous versions too
i have a problem, whenever my laptop is pluged in charge the fps is high in games but if it wasnt the fps decreases, how can i fix this problem?
wHY not undervolt the card instead and add overclock then. 4000 series can do +200 Mhz on any voltage points.
hey does the overclocking work with laptops or just desktops?
Dumb question… do you have to have the nvidia app open for it to work in game?
you don't have to do the beta update, i just went through the overlay and the automatic tuning is there.
honestly with how conservative it is I dont think its worth it over just testing the max you can push out your GPU with something like MSI afterburner for example my 3060 ti I overclock my memory by 1000 MHz with no problem and my gpu clock at 175 MHz. (dont do this on every card this just specifically works for me and my GPU) but I've had no instability and no crashes on this, while yes its nice to save the time by having Geforce do it, its much more worth it to take the little extra time it takes to watch a video if you're not experienced and just do it yourself
Don't forget this is only in Beta mode so there will be upgrades coming.
eh, the app is still super conservative, I'm finding it limits itself to like +150-200 on the cores and +200 on the VRAM (on a 4090), where as my own personal OC I can easily achieve double to triple that on the cores (+565, to final clock of 3100mhz, from 2535) and +2000 on the VRAM.
Works Good..I big improvement from the original performance..some extra heat on my 4090 however you can just increase fan speed all good 😊
You can also lower power consumption ;)
How my do you lower power consumption?@@JeanLeite-d1e
Use this if you want little to no improvement at all after waiting 30 minutes. I had an overclock setup for my 4070 (Alan Wake 2 is a beefy boy) already and decided to try this. It decided the best thing would be to overclock my card 80% less than I did. Take into consideration that I was already at what basically everyone considers the best spot for the 4070 to be at, which is NOT a heavy overclock.
I could have bought a 4080 but I spent 1200.- on snow and woman 🥺❄️👃💃🏻
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Y'd better buyed a 4080, snow and womens don't last !! 🤣😂
@@alaouiadnane Last weekend it happened again 😢 Just around 250.- but still. Yesterday and today I was only thinking about the Kingston Renegade 4TB Nvme with 7300 MB/s Speeds which costs 229.- but now I'm again low on money 😢 I just installed the new 24H2 Update from Windows, new install, could have done that on a new drive but no 😢 Why won't I learn 🙁😞
@@RequiemDream
Better get married lol !!
now that I have a 4080, I am actually interested in trying this lol
It's been in the Geforce experience a LONG time ago......4 years ago to be exact. MY GOD! It is and was under the heading performance. It takes a while though.
the display i have is a48"LG c3 good for 4096x2160 OLED 120Hz and 12 bit Color with a pixel response of 0.1ms, I ran the GPU Auto tune on the 4070ti super. Brought the card up to 2995Mhz and the Vram up to 10,700Mhz. brought the 1% lows up about 8fps and the top end about 5-6fps. I did notice that the image fidelity had a very slight reduction, almost imperceivable but it was there, ( uses the 2.1 HDMI channel with a very heavily shielded/ certified cable between the GPU and display panel, 80 bucks for 4') ie the whole image had a very slight fuzziness and or visual noise while playing games after the card was so called tuned. Saying that, I do not think the average person will notice the Fussiness on smaller monitors. I was not happy with the results so i reset the gpu back to factory setting.
Thanks for sharing your experience on the 4070ti super and that display @videocruzer
Hi . I have a problem since one week . When i try to optimize the game i play , it says ,, unable to load optimal values ,, , and i have a exclamation mark at the game icon. Can you tell me please , how to fix it?
I just tried it and it still has errors, there's a reason it's a beta, but in my opinion it's better to do it manually with MSI Afterburner, I had differences of approximately 5° or 6° degrees, and the FPS difference was 10 FPS or less.
using nvidia DSR on my 31.5" LG 165hz 1440p panel, im playing native 4k at 165hz !! looks 95% identical 4k monitors are overrated
this thing was around for at least a year and even before the nvidia app beta. but I would actually question its effectiveness. we would need to look at different settings on a particular system. my 4090 is in a laptop for instance so this is not a common setting. and nowadays it seems that the CPU takes the major workload, this is at least tru for the games that i play like WoW. GPU is definitely a negligible factor for WoW, surprisingly :D
What does the voltage maximum really do? I sat here and tried it on 0, 25, 50, 75, 99, 100% GPU voltage didn’t go below 1.075. Stayed stuck at 1.081. I thought I had heard it was undervolting but now idk.
(Edit it did slightly change 1 thing that’s all I could see GPU power, at 100% I’m pulling 135-138 Watts, 0% I’m 131-135 Watts)
Where exactly does Nvidia state that Automatic Tuning (AT) will not damage the GPU or invalidate its warranty and why does this info not show up in the app (e.g when you activate AT)?
Shows on the official blog post. Not sure why they don’t have it state that in the app, I agree they should.
One thing, when you say low, mid, god tier pc could you maybe give the gpu/cpu equivalents of each that would help a lot. I love your videos thank you!!
An example would be like "a mid tier pc is a 50/60 series cards"
for everyone thats excited about it: dont be and keep using msi afterburner
it just kept increasing my GPU temps until my computer turned off
Ummm... you could (can) do this overclocking with Geforce Experience also for quite some time, it was kind of hidden away.
Is there any way I can disable the automatic game optimization on this new app? Any game I open, it just sets to the max settings and I need to change them in game every time. It's such a hassle and I've been looking everywhere but I can't find anything that is helpful.
So what fps gains were there? All well and good NVidia saying it doesn't affect your GPU warranty, they aren't the ones who are honoring it.
Auto undervolt would be a good option 😢
After i turn on automatic tuning its says tuning was interrupted
I try to click early access in the Nvidia app but the box keeps unchecking when I exit the app...
ur a good guy
MSI afterburner is still far better. Got my 4080 to 2.95ghz core and memory to 12k(can do more but 12k nice even number). Gpu still silent temps never go above 67c in summer heat. Nvidia app gave only +130mhz on core while afterburner manual clocking +175
True but for a soft overclock this isn't bad. It depends on what you want to do really. I only play one game but I use my PC for Folding@Home which is a huge power eater (GPU mostly) so lowering my voltage down to 90% helps to keep my GPU very well in the cool range and still provides me with a "small" manageable boost.
But for real world kick butt OCing? You're 100% correct MSI Afterburner is far better! I expect Nvidia to upgrade this later.
The changes they make for u wont be noticeable. They tune it at safe levels vs afterburner where u push ur card to its limits and actual gain performance.
THIS! It's a huge difference between afterburner and afterburner is WAY better than this if you are looking for a performance increase.
yeah so people that would just max out every slider couldnt just complain to nvidia because they bricked their gpu lol
This is pointless. I can manually undervolt and do 3000mhz, which is far more optimal.
im not sure if this has been happening before i overclocked using nvidia, but my pc has been freezing quite frequently. ive been trying to find out why and most sources say something to do with overclocking. is there anything you know about the nvidia overclock and freezing?
Already nvidia app itself decreasing performance 5 to 10 average, so by overclocking might reach the only driver installed state...
I wish it changed things in the vBios itself, not on system layer. I hate being dependent on a system(Windows) to have this
Does this have the option to roll back drivers to older drivers?
it didn't even do anything for me, it said +0 on both things