The hidden cost of owning electric cars | The Truth!
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- I cant believe the level of misinformation that is being spread about electric cars. Not to mention the fact that the news anchors on this segment are not comparing true apples to apples comparisons. It is time to get the facts straight.
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Hertz flooding the market with 20,000 used Teslas is another depreciation hit for Tesla owners. If you’re not selling your Tesla right now it doesn’t matter - but if you are selling, you’ll soon realize how badly you’ve been Musked.
I like the phrase Musked - made me laugh out loud. Fortunately, I didn't buy my car as an investment as cars are depreciating liabilities. I don't care what the car depreciates to - I pay my cars off and then I sell them for whatever they are worth at the time. It is also why I don't buy new cars. I appreciate the comment though because it is important for anyone to be aware of.
I started watching the original video, and never finished it, it was so out of wack that I don't think I even left a comment, just blocked the channel. I enjoyed your video though , you come off as a straight shooter and I like that. Good luck with the growth of your channel, I liked and subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more of you.
Really appreciate the kind words. It means a lot for any positive feedback. Thanks!
How much does it cost to repair an EV if you get into an accident and the battery gets damaged or even just to replace the battery when it’s life ends?
Not sure. I think my response to this would be how often do you get in an accident? I don't know that people are getting into an accident on an annual basis - specific to the battery life ending, they typically last about as long as a gas car. Between 200k - 300k miles. At which point you would/could move on to another vehicle the same way you would in a gas car when your motor blows at 250k miles. Thanks for the comment.
I saw this video before you made a video on it. And now that I see that the comparison of car prices are so different. It brings into a whole new light.
I appreciate you sharing. I agree thought, you can't compare a 70k car to a 30k car and be shocked that insurance prices may be more. ha!
An nice entry into it is a used Ioniq first and second gen, VW e-Golf, or Chevrolet Bolt. Particularly those three, not the others. You can find them used for a low-ish cost in comparison to the alternatives.
I have never looked at the e-golf will have to check it out. It sounds fun.
I have run an EV for ten years now, what i have found is my driving style has changed to that of a chauffer driver. Smooth, no rush, read the road ahead more. I think mainly because of it being automatic with no sporty engine noise. I'm much more sensible now than if I was driving a golf gti, or other thug mobile.
Interesting. I think the main difference I noticed is being more calm on long trips, knowing I will need to stop for 15 minutes or so every couple hours.
Same. And also, because it's possible to suddenly dart ahead to solve a problem like merging or changing lanes, the anxiety of having to compete goes away.
I wonder if EVs get in less accidents and if insurance will be lower.
Same here. I bought my Tesla because it's Fast, Fun, and Nerdy. I am also tired of the misinformation as well.
Thanks for taking the time to share!
GREAAAAAAAT video.... Thanks Drew.
Thanks for the kind words.
Watching this got me thinking about tires. Drive in chill mode and not like you stole it. Was pretty keen on a Tesla EV but the initial purchase cost is my biggest barrier. If tires end up being a large expense that would sour the experience. Swings and roundabouts, I guess. Maybe the model 2 will be lighter and not chew through tires as fast even when nursing them.
Have you ever considered a used Tesla?
I bought my Model 3 Performance not to save the polar bears and hug trees, but for the Performance as it's name suggest.
lol. I need to do some googling on how polar bears are being saved. Thanks for the comment. Those M3P are sick!
This video is telling the whole story. Hertz has announced that it is selling 20,000 EV and replacing them with gasoline powered vehicles.
The reasons given customers do not want to rent EV, and the high cost of EV repairs involved in accidents! Is there anybody out there who never hah a car accident ?
Another big issue about EV repairs is the long delay to get spare parts. Elon Musk wants you to buy a new Tesla instead of repairing the damaged one !
In 21 I bought my wife a new Outback for her birthday.
She had been driving her Camry for 18 years. We had full coverage on her Camry.
After dropping the insurance on her Camry and adding her new Outback, our insurance premiums DROPPED by $600 per year.
That’s great! I wonder if it was in part due to not shopping insurance in a while? That happened to me simply because I had not shopped in about 5 years.
@@DrewsReviews2023 we had switched to USAA insurance the year before I bought her the Outback
Im a 20 year old so insurance is already high, but my insurance is actually cheaper now because I went with tesla insurance than it was when I was driving an elantra
That’s impressive! Thanks for sharing. For reference which model did you get? The model 3?
@@DrewsReviews2023 yeah, 2023 model 3 rwd
Electric cars are just more expensive in general, that's why it's not an apples to apples comparison, and they're not really luxurious because you have to use the touch screen for the lack of more expensive physical buttons.
I would agree they aren’t necessarily luxurious. I use voice commands for many things though which is nice.
that sounds cool, hopefully it's better than, hey Google :\
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About tires. Now they make tires specifically made for EVs that are much closer to a typical ICE vehicle. I just bought some for my last tire replacement and we will see how they hold up. But even if they do wear a little faster that is the little extra price you pay for a much more enjoyable ride.
I am curious to see how they hold up. I have been skeptical if they last much longer. Thanks for sharing.
Media hates Tesla and the comparison shows how low they would go to make Tesla looks bad!!
That may be true, but I think the biggest issue is that most are just uninformed and spread misinformation they hear from reading headlines.
They don't advertise. They literally don't pay the media. So, this is a hit piece. Surprising msm lies?
great info. Love the less than 10 min vids, that have less than 10mins of info. If you put 13 mins of info in, I'd watch.
Hi. I am in my early 70s and live in the UK, so I don't have to much say in this argument , other than I have an ev and I did not buy it to save the world but because it is the future .
My advice is to take what you say as i agreed with everything......there was so more advice i wanted to say...ah, that's it. When it comes to buying insuranse, don't go to this guy.
What i can't understand is the media . One day they are winging about global warming and the next telling people not to buy something that will help with it. I guess they need to fill their program with something. The only thing is that, as you say in the US, most is BS.
David.
Thank you so much for the reply. It is so great to hear your opinion on things. You mentioned you bought an EV because it is the future. Was there anything that was difficult to adopt about your EV?
@DrewsReviews2023 No, nothing at all . My insurance was a little cheaper, I got a fixed deal for two years. In the UK, we pay a road tax each year on your car. The cost depends on the amount of gas you blow out of the back. Having an EV it is free, so I save £170 per year, and servicing is every 2 years.
@@davidandalyson1803 That is interesting. I hope with a road tax your roads are A+ :)
Never heard of you before, but the algorithm just popped up this vid. About tires, of course, if you are heavy on the accelerator, you wear out tires. I bought the Toyota Bz4x, which spends 6 or 7 seconds to get to 100 km/h (60 mph), and even I smile. I'm one of those who did buy the car to save money, and I don't spend 10% of the cars' value each year just buying gas. After 10 years, it would be the same as buying a new car and getting 10 years of gas for 10-20% of the cost, depending on where the electricity prices go in my country. The only sad thing for me is that the inflation makes my payments much more expensive. Everything at once, food, car payments, house payments, heating. It is tough, but I'm still glad I don't have to buy gas.
I had never heard of that Toyota before. I had to google it, but I will say it looks nice! I would also assume that since it is a Toyota I bet it will last forever! I will be glad once I do not have a car payment anymore though. In my recent 1 year cost of ownership my charging cost blew my mind. I couldn't believe how much less I was paying than gas. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I learned something new about Toyotas today!
@DrewsReviews2023 Okay, well they had many issues at the start, but most of them were sorted out via software updates. Still, second-hand buyers should consider how the charging speed in cold weather affects them, or buy a 2024 model year or later. Still, the 2023 will work fine for me. I only drive long trips in the summer. This time of year, I mostly use it for diving to and from work about 62 km (39 mi) one way.
@@gunnarparment5050 Yes, I still dont recommend EVs for people who live in apartments. While they don't have to be charged every night, it would be bothersome to go and sit at a charger every couple of days. Charing speeds are important.
@DrewsReviews2023 Definitely. We should all follow Norway with the "right to charge". Everyone in Norway has the right to have a charger installed at their parking. At rental housing, it is the owner of the property that has to make sure the tensnts can charge. Norway has over 90% new car EV sales. In Sweden, where I live, we don't have that legislation, and we have only 40% new car EV sales. Where I live, there are mostly small private owned houses, and my municipality has slightly over 50% new car EV sales. (Without my car, it would have been exactly 50% 😀). (The figures from Norway have many different causes, including no sales tax on EVs, whereas Sweden now has almost no subsidies left since last year.)
Batteries, insurance and fires, oh my!
BIF - Batteries, Insurance and Fires
Drew keep up the good work I enjoy your videos you’re very informative keep them coming
Thanks for the kind words!
We will never ever save on our EV but yeah its fun to drive! We actually have 2 EV and funnily enough prefer to drive our cheap 2021 40kwh Nissan Leaf over our 2023 Kia EV6 AWD around town, but that EV6 is so much fun on the open road! And having the ability to live off grid anywhere we go having that V2L is a bonus
Those EV6 are so awesome looking to me. I am excited for all the electric cars to have the same charging port moving forward. There are many I would like to try. Thanks for sharing.
Like you (I think), I recently bought my 2016 Model S not for the environment. I have been extremely impressed by the overall ride, premium quality and free supercharging (which has enabled me to drive miles and miles without worry). My insurance is certainly higher than my previous car (a Jaguar XF) but even accounting for that I'm still very happy with my purchase. Great vid (as always). Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks for the feedback. What do you pay for your insurance out of curiosity? You weren't the one paying 300 per month in Canada were you?
@@DrewsReviews2023 No. I'm in the UK. I pay £1200 per year for two drivers. (about £500 more) than my previous car. Insurance in the UK has gone way up recently (across all makes and models). Think it's just the sign of the current times.
Interesting. I would thing a jaguar and a Tesla would be similar insurance cost. They are both nice!
@@DrewsReviews2023 I think they're about £20000 ($25000) difference in price when new.
@@4outof10 I like the red interior on the 2024 XF. Looks nice.
Do you think the government will step in, they're giving state and federal rebate but yet it's counterproductive if insurance company are scaring people away with high price. By 2035 California wants all cars sold to be EVs but it doesn't seem like everyone is working together. Maybe gas companies are paying insurance companies under the table to push EVs out lol
I don’t think the government will step in. I think they will have to back peddle their demand for electric only.
Thank you! No need to google at all. These reports are lathing stock for every educated person. If you are grown enough as to look at and desire a Tesla vehicle you will know the value they bring and for sure you will know where Tesla vehicle are in global ranking vs the rest.
It has been surprising to see how much the large auto makers are struggling to crank out meaningful EV's. I think they could do it if they put their mind to it, but it doesn't seem urgent to them.
@@DrewsReviews2023 It is not that they are not capable or it is not urgent for them but many of the legacy automakers are in very big debts and can not get the finance / investment need for a radical change as making BEV which is a total new process from where they are now. What they basically do not try to sell as many ICE as they could while gradually save some finances of that and re-invest in stages. The most of legacy autos work with PARTNERS buiding on their behalf. So the switch is not that easy plus the profitability issues with the distributors / car dealers which are nearly all independent and you get the picture. All of them will come to the marked one by one as they find financing for the switch.
Good work. So much FUD on the MSM to deconstruct.
Thanks for the kind words!
The depreciation costs of Teslas are staggering
The depreciation costs of are staggering
I have been following the car market closely for the past several years and I think the depreciation of all cars is quite rough right now because interest rates have driven cost down significantly. (Which is a good thing)
I think you need to also include the cost of the charging station that is installed in a house. That usually runs $1500 or more. Plus I wouldn’t sleep soundly unless I had an electrician check it at least once year. That definitely would cost more then a couple oil changes
I do want to ask - do you have an EV? I hope it doesnt come off as rude, but it does sound like you may have just heard rumors about the cost of things. This is the sort of misinformation I want to combat. I have a short on my channel showing how much I paid for my wall charger and it was only $500. That included parts and labor. If I had a dryer hookup in my garage, I wouldnt have even had to pay for one. I do appreciate your comment, because it is a valid concern, but the cost is actually not too bad at $500.
Exactly. My EV charger was less than $500. I installed it myself. It is about 8 years old and recently got a software update and works better than before.
depends on what you want. RFID, multiple accounts, online tracking.. yes, those boxes cost an arm an a leg. But a "normal" wallbox? Mine was around $350. And for sleeping soundly - do you let your electrician check you stove yearly? Or even you photovoltaic system? A wallbox is a "CEE outlet with error checking". If it works, it works.
@@DrewsReviews2023EVSE installs can be expensive depending on the house. Our electric panel is on the opposite side of the house from the garage. A 100amp subpanel, lots of conduit, lots of copper, multiple roof penetrations, and 2 EVSE's cost us about $5000. Did we have to do it that way, no. If money was an issue, we could have just added 1 EVSE and not needed the subpanel and extra copper. But we wanted to do it right and just justified it by telling ourselves the cars just cost about $2000 more each.
On a related note, if you have solar panels that can charge your car, it can drastically reduce how long it takes to "payback" the cost of going solar. Usually half the time or even faster! It's insane that most people don't factor that into their calculations when deciding to go electric.
Great video! Thanks!
@@mjbates I would love to add solar to my house. That is on my goals for 2024. I have found the hard part is getting enough panels up to zero out my electric bill. It takes more panels than I expected.
This channel is very useful! Ive been thinking long and hard about transitioning to a tesla and your channel made me more confident in getting one in the next month or so.. All cars have costs associated with them. I love the world but I’m not basing getting ANY car at this time in my life on wether I’m saving the world, I just like nice cars EV or not lol
Thanks for the feedback. It means a lot. I think this news article is a great example of how misinformed the general public is about electric cars. Like you said nothing is perfect and things will break, but it’s not always the battery and it will be fine. Ha. The biggest reasons I might not get one is if you live in an apartment without daily overnight charging or if you take road trips over 4 hours multiple times per month.
@@DrewsReviews2023 I agree, I purchased a home 2 years ago so I have a garage and space for in home charging, plus there’s a charging station .5 miles away.. I’m trying to find the right model s in my budget that was well kept by the original owner.. I’m in Northern California also..
@antbankslbsht oh ok cool. I bet there are a ton of teslas in California to pick from.
Have to watch out for hate crimes against Tesla vehicles.
I went with TESLA Insurance here in California. Before I got my Model Y, I was driving a BMW i3 that cost me $800 more a year for Insurance.
I wish we had Tesla insurance here in Florida but they haven’t rolled it out yet. Glad to hear a good story about it.
none of those hidden costs were actually debunked. just "rationalized". the reality is all those hidden costs are more expensive on an EV. they still have to be paid. a model 3 and Y are not that much more expensive than a well optioned Camry ($25k is base, most people get at least some options so closer to $30k if not over $30k) or Highlander, yet the insurance is significantly more, like over 50% more. replacing tires every 3 years (and a set of Tesla tires is usually a lot more than just $900 installed these days) instead of every 6 years will negate all the savings from not having to do oil changes every 3 to 6 months. Toyota and Hyundai actually give complementary maintenance for the first 2 and 3 years respectively. repairs are not just more expensive on EVs, but in the case of Tesla, they take much longer to complete so opportunity/time costs too. sure many people will anecdotally say they spent nothing or almost nothing on repairs, but Hertz has to data to show that repairs, even "maintenance" (i'm assuming tires), insurance and depreciation all made their EV "investment" a losing one.
for EVs to really take off, they are going to have to make both economic and practical sense, especially when subsidies eventually end. if only well off enthusiasts buy Teslas/EVs, that 2035 goal of new EV sales only will never be reached...
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and I first want to say you have some valid points that are worth considering. I want to point out though, and I do mean this respectfully, but this is worded in such a way that sounds like you do not personally own a Model 3 or Model Y and are also just going based of what you read in headlines. If you do own a model 3 or a Model Y feel free to share, but this simply sounds like someone who is sharing things they heard from the media.
Speaking as someone who owns a EV and has insured it with several different carriers, the cost can be more expensive than a gas car, but as I mentioned in the video it depends on what you are comparing it to. I have a video showing that I pay $88 per month for a full comprehensive insurance policy. Insurance cost will vary by location, age, driving record and vehicle.
I also have a video showing the actual cost of my brand new tires for my model S as $1,000 which I bought at the peak of the market, those same tires now sit around $800 for a full set. Tires are not anything crazy.
To your comment about Hertz not making money and selling their fleet - I believe it was due to the lack of interest in people renting them and less about the maintenance costs. If you have a link to an article where they site maintenance being the core reason they were selling them I will read it. (I am not informed on this piece, and you very well may be correct.)
I personally don't think we should push everyone to EV's. I think they are fun - but certainly don't think they are for everyone. I agree that they are still too expensive on the purchase price. Once they can get the cost to a 20k EV with reasonable range, I could see there being mass adoption. For now - I just want to be sure to properly inform people that yes EV's are expensive, but no every repair does not cost 5k and no the hidden costs are not groundbreaking.
Again - truly appreciate you taking the time to comment. It helps to spark good conversation.
you didn't buy a Tesla for the environment wow to me that is insane . We are flying past all the trip points on climate change and you haven't bothered to pay attention . Mind blowing.
I certainly think it is important to try and protect the environment, but until the whole world jumps on board in working towards sustainable energy, I am not sure that driving EV's in America will be the trick. I appreciate the comment though. Cheers!
Lol. Do you really think (op) that having tons of rare metals in your car will help? How is this going to play out when quadruple the amount of cars are sold? Any idea how much quadruple is? Do some math, the market share of new ev's is what? You pick a number. Quadruple it. Then you are at ?%? The double that again. The metals alone usually strip mined are a coming choke point for costs.
btw, henry ford did not invent a world climate change machine, unlike what skyfall showed you.
i know you will come back with insults, that's fine. But please know I have an earth and atmospheric degree. I trust people like musk will be able to invent smr's and make em work, just like I trust all our environmental remediation companies in the western world have done incredible jobs cleaning the earth. The amount of negative and staggering disinformation with lack of hope (considering the intelligence and computing power we have) is truly sad.
Why are you comparing a budget gas to the top of the line EV? You’re comparing apples to dragonfruits at this point 😑
lol indeed!
I think the annoyance is electrical cars are to be Forced unto people that Dont want them is point of news report
I definitely don’t think they should force people to buy them, I think they will backpedal the 10 year requirement. Good point!
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You’re pro EV. They are just toys. A car is nothing more then transportation. My Honda Civic will take me anyplace your Tesla will take you for a lot less money. My Honda Civic cost $28,000 while the Tesla cost $48,000. The $20,000 price difference buys a lot of gas.
I have always shared that there are significantly cheaper modes of transportation. That is why I shared at the start of the video I didnt buy my car to save any money. There are plenty of gas cars that are cheaper. The main thing I was trying to point out in this video is that if we compare a similar priced car to a similar priced car - the price variance is similar. If you buy a used model 3 for 22,000. I do actually believe it would be cheaper to operate than your 22,000 honda civic. The insurance cost for my $28,000 model S for example is only $88 per month and for me to drive 17,000 miles this year I only spent $500 on charging and $500 on repairs. Not all that expensive. My main message is that buying EV's is certainly more expensive, but when you buy used EV's it doesnt always have to be. Thanks for the comment.
I'm now a sub, after that response. I might buy an ev cause they are cheap, 4doors, 4 seats and they are very, very quick.
But crossing my fingers battery doesn't fail. Or motor.
Mind you, on a used ICE car, same thing, battery or transmission. Fingers crossed on a used one, without a waranttee (some don't work even if you pay for one).
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate you!
Agree with everything.
Thanks for taking the time to add your input. Cheers!
I personally hate how the news outlets put stuff together in ways to deceive the public. I agree with almost everything you've said here and similar to you, I didn't buy a Tesla to save the planet, I just like the car ('23 MYLR) and most importantly, it fit my 98% local travel use case.
23 long range! Very nice! How far do those go real world range?
camry up to 45 thousand dollars compared to you mentioning low 20’s
Thats fine - you still cant compare a 45k car to a 70k car and expect the insurance cost to be the same. That is a 25k difference. I would hope the Camry owner doesnt pay as much - it wouldnt be fair to the car that cost less.
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I don’t get it? Lol
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@@tomc.2808 Im not the sharpest tool in the toolbox. :)
@@DrewsReviews2023 you are 👀
It might be worth mentioning putting your kid into the crash tests safest vehicle isn’t such a bad idea.
Meaning, the Tesla is a safe vehicle and is a benefit to have your kids in?
Who drives an Oldsmobile? Dude was right about tires, but any electric car is heavier due to a battery. Wonder how much it is to insure a 9000 pound Hummer EV?
Hahaha! True. On the hummer insurance, I bet it’s costly because a hummer ev is like 200k!
Yep, it's not a bunch of "greenies" out to save the planet -- it's a bunch of wealthy boys with expensive toys. The rest of humanity is far more interested in GETTING SOMEWHERE, without spending twice as much money for the vehicle, and hours of extra time getting anywhere.
Amen brother! For about 3 years I drove a $600 moped with a top speed of 35 miles an hour to save up as much money as possible. It wasn’t fancy and it wasn’t cool, but it helped me in a big way when I lived on a dollar a day. EVs are unnecessary toys that are a lot of fun. Thanks for the comment.
Not mis-information when you agreed on most points. Smh
I felt as though I disagreed with most points. You cant compare the cost of a 30k vehicle to a 70k car for insurance costs, repairs aren't always expensive in an EV, it will likely go through tires quicker, and you shouldn't give a high schooler a Tesla, which is why most highschoolers drive heavily used vehicles. What am I missing? Thanks for the comment.
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Appreciate you taking the time to give some feedback. Have a good weekend.
What is this video supposed to prove? That electric cars are not expensive? Sorry...that's some misinformation: all of them are more expensive than regular cars. The trick seems to be that Tesla claims to deliver "luxury" cars. What a nonsense - Musk himself was showing off with the unusual high margins Tesla had on each car...basically admitting that they were selling cheaply made cars for a hefty premium - but that doesn't equal luxury. Everything around electric cars - from purchase to insurance to the home charging station installation is expensive and everyone is trying to make as much money as possible from it. It is up to the end user to decide if the convenience of having a car that is always ready to go etc. is worth the extra-money. But there is no point trying to prove that the obvious is not obvious: electric cars are still more expensive than their significantly more complicated ICE counterparts.
I have never said electric cars arent expensive, I specifically said that they are more costly than a Ford Edge, Camry and Altima. I said, you cant expect to pay the same in insurance costs on a vehicle that costs 30k more. Ev's are expensive. That said, my whole channel is about buying them used, because it makes them more affordable. My Model S with 50k miles on it is 28k which is much more in line with a Honda Accord price.
My insurance is $88 per month for full coverage, it cost me $500 to install a charging outlet, and last year I drove 17,000 miles and only spent $500 on my charging costs. I will never claim EVs are cheap, but the point I am trying to make is that they aren't astronomical the way the media spins it to be either.
I think people should drive whatever the want to drive. I also think its lame they are trying to force everyone to drive electric in 10 years. There is a ton of misinformation out there which is what I am trying to correct.
Electric is fun and gas is fun. But to claim that insurance is 50% more, repairs are always thousands of dollars and you can't buy a EV for 25k is crazy. There are tons of used vehicles that are not as scary as people make them out to be.
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate hearing all points of view.
@@DrewsReviews2023 Just to make sure : we have a BMW I3 electric only. Absolutely perfect car for what we got it: driving downtown to work and for shopping etc. and I am actually stunned that it is still among the most efficient cars out there…>10 years after the release. But the entire electric car market is still focused on high margin “luxury” models and great cars like the Chevy Bolt are even taken out of production to get capacity for higher margin cars. Anything Tesla and friends are trying to tell you is wrong: they hype their cars up and sell them for a hefty premium - although they are objectively on the “luxury” level of a cargo van. That’s why I would never buy one those. Honest cheap electric cars are not available right now…you can try to twist that as you like. And no…our charger at home was significantly more expensive than $500…which doesn’t matter to me because the convenience that comes with the always “ready to go” EV is absolutely worth it - but it remains a “luxury” purpose
@@tfleiter sounds like we are on the same page then. We just simply phrase things differently. There are tons of EV's that are incredible. I personally would like to try the F150 lightning and the Rivian. The core reason I chose a Tesla is simply for the charging network while traveling. And from the sounds of it - with Tesla's charing port being the new standard it sounds like as soon as 2025 I will be able to happily branch out to the other auto makers and their wonderful electric options.
You lost all credibility when you think they look "cool". Cookie cutter shape.
lol I can respect that. Thanks for the comment!
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