It’s very frustrating to me as a South African that “feeding the starving kids in Africa” is a marketing ploy but then we can’t even buy these products because it’s sold through Sephora who doesn’t sell to us. Please don’t use us for your marketing
As a South African also, I think that's a really damaging perspective to have. "Don't help people who need help because I, a South African who doesn't need assistance, doesn't need help and won't benefit from that help". You do know there are actually starving children in Africa so why would you be apposed to them receiving help, regardless of how it's gotten... It's really self centred.
@@PHlophe hmmm, let me contemplate that proposal for a moment... Nah, the answer is still no. Also, great use of the Nazi thing considering my last name. Whatta zinger. You should take that stand up performance on the road, where it belongs.
Yeah and Triple the price of Everything else on the Inkey List website smh This Crap is over priced and he's definitely green washing, plus how much of a percentage is being donated to the 2 foundations?? I don't think he said..... I wonder why smh
Or just didn’t exist we don’t need more skincare brands At least if the products were like super super innovative why not but it’s not the case If he really cared that much about the earth he could just have raised money to help it rather than creating a skincare brand that no matter how ethical it is it’s going to create waste and pollution…
Instead of giving to charities (although admirable) I would be more interested in a brand that is quantifiably carbon neutral or has zero non-biodegradable waste/ or zero packaging waste altogether.
As a licensed esthetician this product is extremely overpriced and this does not fit for everyone’s skin. If you want to support charity’s please send your money directly to the charity’s.
Exactly re: donating directly to charities. I won’t buy and have little or no interest in H. I think his line is also everything but selfless. It speaks volumes of his hubris.
Because donating directly is too inconvenient and a hurdle and only a fraction of the population does that or works voluntary. Donating indirectly by buying product you‘d get either way is easier. Psychology 😉
To be honest, I’ve unsubscribe hyram after he launched his brand. No doubt there a great message behind this brand but because I remember how he used to bash the other brands for having over priced product for simple formula and then he shows up his own brand with the pretty same motive.
He also made a rant video about humanitarian and white saviorism but then make a promotional video about black children's poverty to build his brand's image and boost sale, didn't sit well with me😕
@@bleu9396 the whole thing was one disgusting manipulative tactic after the other. Unfortunately he has a younger audience and just like the James Charles stans, they don’t care one bit if he’s using them or not. They will defend him to the end.
Bingo! Most of his fans are too young to be financially stable, or even have jobs. I still wish him well, but this is obviously a hypocritical, poorly thought out money grab.
Rich parents - my middle class parents got me one Neutrogena soap and a visit to my GP for acne when I was in high school. Anything else I had to save for, and forget a dermatologist! They said I'd grow out of it. I finally did.
This company made me unsubscribe from Hyram because of the PR. The green washing, white saviorism, and use of using third world counties as images to make people feel good about buying this while at the same time not making the products available in countries in Africa made me lose all respect for hyram
True.. No offense.. But tbh.. If you have a large company.. You can just directly donate some of your revenue to charities without using marketing tactics for you to obtain money
That's not exactly how tax deductions work. Usually donating part of the profits is simply marketing. You either get more people to buy the products or they'll be willing to pay more for the product and this will increase your profit by a higher amount than the donations are. You might give away 10% of profits but if this increases profits by e.g. 30% you're still making a net profit
It's funny how Hyram went from bashing brands for not having the advertised active on top of the incilist to doing the exact same in his products 👀 Was so turned off by the promo and the green washing of these products that i ended up unsubscribing. How do you go from promoting budget friendly brands to making your own brand which is so expensive when your audience is literally teens to young adults. The irony 😭
At those prices… might as well get the really nice Korean skincare products he raves about. Korean skincare really is on top of the game (although I’m still loving Paula’s Choice BHA soooooooo much).
as a poc, i don’t think i will spend my money on this brand. the promotional video and marketing of this brand give off white saviour vibes. it feels like the missionaries who visit to manipulate the natives of a country and since hyram is ex-mormon he should have known better. also, the way they used the clips of people in africa as a marketing tactic didn’t sit well me.
Same... it's humiliating imo. Why do they always have to portray Africans like they're some sort of cute endangered animal? They're people like you and me and they don't need some rich white guy's fake sympathy.
I've never been able to watch more than two minutes of his adverts, as I just find them so pretentious and self-serving and cliche, but I've heard plenty of people talk about the whole "white savior" complex. Sorry, but sending a few pennies (if they even do that, they haven't stated a set amount they'll donate, only a "we aspire to hit X amount") from a $200 purchase isn't going to save starving African children. More feel-good jargon trying to be a hit with young children.
I dont know anything aboit formulations, so I can't comment on that. HOWEVER, the recyclability claims turned me off from using these products, I work in the resource recovery industry and claiming that 'bio based' plastics are recyclable is quite misleading and goes against all the efforts that waste educators do, when consumers find out this type of packaging is not getting recycled, we are the ones who need to clean up the mess and re-educate them on the reasons why and how it doesn't apply to all packaging. I really hope I'm wrong and that the company consulted with the waste industry and performed tests for collection, sorting and re-processing in the places where these products are being sold that backs up those claims.
Honestly, Paula's choice and Korean products pack a better punch than SBH. I would continue to use the skin care products that already work for me and then donate to charity.
@Lynn Taylor Would you mind sharing the alternatives to Paula's Choice? I have been looking for alternatives to PC products, ever since Unilever acquired it. If the prices go up and the brand is no longer cruelty free, I wouldn't use PC again.
@@skinnypomegranate Krave Beauty doesn't put out more products than they need to because the company believes in not contributing to the hyperconsumerism within the skincare industry. Liah Yoo discusses that topic on her channel
@@MrTmenzo to be fair the ultimate sacrifice for nature to truly heal is for humanity to go extinct but my comment is about skincare bec we r in a skincare video arent we?
The name of the brand itself is just cringey to me. “Selfless”, and using it as something to “spark social change”. If Hyram really intends to make a difference in at least one person’s life, he would do what Pewds do, donate from the earnings of his streams and not make an ad out of it and use Africa as the backdrop.
@@rosefamilia3169 Agreed. You can easily tell someone who purely has good intentions versus someone who’s trying to act like one. The latter is always going to parade about the “good deeds” they’ve done. It’s also quite ironic that Hyram made a video about his trip to a 3rd world country and why he won’t do it anymore, and then this.
@Scarlet Baxter True. The intro on his ad “I don’t want to create a skincare line unless it sparks a social change.” but only 10% goes to charities (the 10% is not even guaranteed). As if his skincare line was born out of the necessity to make a difference in the world.
Or use his huge platform to petition existing brands to consider more sustainable approaches. Not start yet another skincare line in an oversaturated market. And definitely not send out PR that generates waste aka mini projectors.
I can donate to a charity without Hyram keeping a portion as a middle man. Using donations as a major marketing point, calling it selfless, going against their own skincare principles... is repulsive.
Here's the thing tho. Im assuming you buy skin care products and will continue to do so. I'd rather buy a product that takes some of the profit and donates it
@@michRobalino yeah but why not just buy a skincare product and donate yourself? he's only donating 10% which if you do the maths is not even 0.50$ on a 30$ product and you're basically paying his taxes as well (bc in that way he's avoiding taxes) if you want to donate just donate yourself and you'll know that the money will go there instead of just trusting someone on the internet lol
That’s a completely valid point, I once saw a story about how when you donate to charities promotions through corporations (example when grocery stores do charity drives at the register) you’re just helping financing their tax write off … and it hit me, holy crap this person is absolutely right.
@@michRobalino you could buy cheaper products like cerave and just donate to a charity that way the money is directly going to the charity and not hyrams bank
You can do both. I think it's geared more towards the audience of people who don't donate regularly. If hyram was saying stop donating to ur fave charities and rely on these products alone, that would be fcked up. And yes they all benefit from avoiding taxes but at the end of the day, the small donation of each product adds up with the huge amount of sales.. and *people who don't care about donating and will probably never donate in their lives won't even know they're contributing a few cents to a donation* Idk about u but I think that's worth it. I think about it as extra donations those charities probably weren't going to have
I unfollowed Hyram awhile ago. I couldn't put up with his misinformation, undisclosed sponsorships, and his haughty overdramatic attitude. Though I did still admire his views on sustainability and humanitarian work. But now I don't even think he's being truthful about that. It all seems like a marketing ploy to me.
Honestly I had drifted away from his content but when he released “Reacting to people bashing my skincare line “ I unsubscribed completely. (Edit : I wrote routine instead of skincare line before oops)
@@celestialapparitions GOD! I just saw that. He has his head inside his own rectum. I don't always agree with Dr. Dray but the way people disrespect an actual dermatologist in favor of random youtube people is so damn gross. Props to her for not cursing somebody out.
as a pharmacist/toxicologist/safety assessor I am not a fan of this brand for many reasons, first they changed the formula on the website without telling why (i have sereen shot proof) and i even asked in comments and in Dm on Instagram (still no answer), second i know hyram is a big advocate for no fragrances but in some of his product he used Benzyl alcohol which is considered a fragrance, and the product is marketed fragrance free, then the first product that contains "rainbow algae" according to his phenoxyethanol trick anything comes after phenoxyethanol is lower than 1% and his star ingredient the "rainbow algae" is under 1% and to be effective according to the supplier study it should be above 1.5%, plus he did the same as the inkeylist with succinic acid labeled as the active but not, rainbow algae extract won't be the ingredient that brightening the skin but actually tranexamic acid that exist but didn't have the spotlight, all of this is so shady in my opinion. One more thing, if you are so cautious about environment in my opinion it's better not to lunch a skincare brand.
He's a bit misleading he will say he uses 3% Centella Asiatica but it is a complex and the actual amount is much lower. And with the Rainbow Algae his website states 1.5% Rainbow Algae Complex (0.15% Rainbow Algae extract):
@@singingdaffodil yeah and they changed the whole formula of the retinol serum without saying why and giving notice to people that's sketchy to me, i feel this whole skincare line was created in a hurry to be honest, no hate 🤷🏼♂️
They only said they had the "ambition" to donate 10%. They didn't actually commit to a set % So no, we don't even know how much, if anything, is going to the "charity partners".
I checked to see how much is it on sephora and I would never pay that much for half less moisturiser and cleanser I already use which are even a few bucks cheaper
@@Hanna-rp2lt wouldn't be a problem if the USA hadn't coup'd and destabilized the economy of my country until 20 dollars end up being enough to by like 10 bottles of moisturizer
Most big companies donate to charities, its a good tax break, he's doing no different but making it part of his whole brand image to drive sales. You could make your own 4 step regime from other existing derm recommended products containing higher levels of actives, give $20 a month to charity and *still* save yourself $40 or so a month. I also think the name is awful. Putting his initial in the selfless name as well as 'by Hyram' makes it all about him, which is fine, its his collab, butit's just not in line with the idea of selflessness! The shots of smiling black kids whose lives he's going to improve, (with your money,) is also a bit iffy after his whole rant about white saviorism.
You just said everything I was thinking. The name is simply embarrassing, and the green washing and white saviourism of it all made me finally unsubscribe from his channel.
Regardless of the great message behind this line, the fact that the product is overpriced (even if half goes towards donation), most people will probably buy it as a one time purchase to support him but I don’t think sales will sustain in the long run. The market is already saturated with great products that are good, cheaper and also green friendly.
@@tinasung3814 the fact that they hiked up all the prices instead of being willing to absorb any of the costs of more sustainable materials is really telling imo. Absolutely not selfless in the slightest
Lol. Half. The figure quoted is 10% and that is not even garunteed. They cleverly use terms like "we are determined to give...." Also, when talking about the donations they talk about projects that will deliver 60 community water projects that will provide clean water for 50 years, but Hyrams brand isn't doing that, that's the charities pledge, he will simply donate a sum *towards* it. It makes it sound as if Selfless will be providing those 60 water projects instead of just helping with a donation. Their donation may only be enough to pay 1 out of 60 of the water projects, or half of one!
@@chandracox6814 i actually like the Inkey list and use some of their products. ngl, i even bought the collab Hyram did coz the bag was cute and the products in it are mostly what i use from the brand. but i am not sure with this “powered by inkey list” thing.
The three things about the inkylist I have is 1. Every dermatologist/ skin specialist on Utube is promoting or reviewing these products 2. U can't buy them anyway as they are not in stock. 3. U have no idea how much active ingredients in their products so really how do you know what U r buying? Now Hyram products have these issues too.
@@chandracox6814 but didn't Morphe used to have good products? If I'm not mistake, the quality was good, wasn't? The problem started with the influencers, right? Or they lost the quality (I never had the money to buy it, so I never got to test it).
@@kittykat5056 he is hypocrite. He bushing all brands for expensive but when it comes to him, it's affordable for teenage. And Larger battle much more sustainable then smaller battle. If you hv big battle you don't need to buy every 1 months or weeks... Smaller battles is much more wasted thn a bigger one.
@@laurac9453 apparently recycling centers have these nets that catch larger objects which they can't recycle and send them to landfill. So he sized the packaging to fit through these nets and maximize the chance that the tube is recycled
I can't tell you how ✨OVER IT ✨ I am with new skincare brands. Especially green washy influencer brands. The MOST important thing we can do is REDUCE. Recycling has become a joke. I can't support the creation of new brands while the market is incredibly saturated.
It is super oversaturated. I think the bubble will burst just like with makeup. I hope people can see through this stuff... People don't need 10 steps in their skincare routine in tiny plastic bottles.
@@eldricke i agree. Some ppl say that the ingredients he uses for the products are innovative when you can just get them from korean skincare brands that have been using them for so long and at a much cheaper price.
Especially in his video reviewing Jlos brand he stated that the market was saturated with celebrity brands. And then brings out his own line contributing to more product waste
well I stopped buying other brands to buy his. And none of the other brans i used to buy did any of the charity towards top rated charities certified by 3rd parties like his or offset carbon... SOOO :D Nothing wrong with a new brand coming and setting the bar higher :)
Fun fact, he used the channel he said it was going to be used for charity and other stuff I can't remember. He used that channel to promote those products... Kinda shady
I hated the ad gave me mayhor white savior vibes. Like look at at these africsn children, help them by buying this. And most plant a tree programs destroy ecosystems with mono-species forests that are dead. Like the forest cant support the variety of animals that live there. Also trees are usually harvested yrs down the line
I understand that he’s donating to charity with these products, but the products themselves are creating waste themselves like he’s made videos on zero-waste skincare and how rare it is. Why couldn’t he have made his products low-waste? He could have put recycling information on the box as so many people will end up disposing it incorrectly. Also this line very much reminds me of Bubble
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bro you definitely not understand and sure you haven't bought it yet but you have the audacity to backslash it regarding its recycling processes. It already has everything you need to know on the packaging.
I reuse the dropper bottles for a lot of different stuff like it it’s a perfect amount or rise water for my hair and small vases, fairy lights and a lot of other stuff. I can’t for the life of me buy throw outs if I can help it. And I can, because there’s plenty products that are reusable.
I don't like how he is always preaching how buying these product will SAVE the world? He could be giving back and doing something good, but he is still doing more damage than good by creating mini product...playing the saving the world card is literal brainwasing
Jumped straight to the comments...didn't expect anything less than an honest perspective of this. I got bad vibes with the initial promo...like there are zero details about actives, how much goes towards these green good causes, like what is this? lmao I didn't watch Hyram but I would be quite disappointed if Cassandra, or Dr. Dray etc dropped something so off brand like this. The mark was heavily missed.
Genuine question. How is this line going to help fight climate change? Apart from the donations that are being made to those NPOs? Edit: I added "fight".
Nobody knows because Hyram refuses to be transparent and the website is very inconsistent. I'm certain $0.5 from some products goes to the thirst project but other than that we don't really have numbers. They're claimed their "ambition" is to donate 10% of their profits but that's textbook corporate speech for "we want to hike up our prices and benefit from green marketing without sacrificing any of our yacht money". If they actually had an intention of donating that much, they'd have said they *will*.
It's manipulative marketing. He harps on about how you're supporting X social cause by buying his products. If I wanted to support a cause, I'd donate my time or money directly to that, not some product. He's appealing to pathos of people wanting to be virtuous/generous by telling them they can only do that by using his expensive products.
@@meganz020 ok, but which one? For how long? How they are going help? For instance, they say that they want to help with water treatment, but, until foreign companies decided to do a lobby and buy the public ones (not to mention a lot of money from corruption), we had water in good condition (the problem was with distribution), better than USA for exemple. But they got sold, and the price sky rocket, and now people can't pay. So are they helping us taking back our water, or are they financial helping the people who steal from us? Just saying that they're helping without saying how is suspicious (and if they never ending helping, they can say that it was the intention, but, you know, crises of some kind).
The criticism that I have read and wholly agree with is saying this whole thing is very much white knighting. Even the name, I have some feelings about. Hyram, who already is a white person living in Hawaii, made some very interesting (uncomfortable) choices with the b role in his ad videos. Additionally, from what I know, recycling bioplastics is *incredibly* difficult and rare, often you need to send it to a very specific facilty. Maybe he found some bioplastic I don't know, but yeah. It would have been nice to see literally any certifications behind this - certified zero waste facilty, b corp, certified fair trade, ANYTHING to back up his very, very big claims. 😕 even just being part of 1% for the planet! That would automatically provide transparency with actual proof, as opposed to all of his big claims of donating to 'save the planet'. Overall, I wouldn't buy it if it wasn't from Hyram, therefore, I am not buying it. Also, the inkey list has horrible transparency and no info on sustainability that I can find anywhere. He could have partnered with a truly sustainable company, like Plaine products. But did this instead, and I am not impressed sadly.
@@GS-xs3we Hey! I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying :) I have no issue with immigration, but Hawaii is a specific issue on it's own. I would encourage you to look into this a bit and read some articles written by indigenous Hawaiian people! In recent years, a massive influx in rich, white people moving to the islands have caused dramatic price increases and the native people there are being forced out of their homes because of it. Additionally, there are issues with overpopulation, with excess tourism and development harming the wildlife/natural landscape, etc. Covid has made that worse as well. Here is a helpful article as a jumping off point! stabmag.com/news/priced-out-of-paradise-the-reality-of-north-shore-gentrification/
@@miranda266 Ok, if these people are making an active decision to potentially displace indigenous people and harm the environment I get what you're saying. How do you know all the rich people were white though?
Cetaphil, LRP, Vaseline, CeraVe, etc., if you’re watching, I would buy your cleansers and moisturizers (sunscreens too if possible?) in my own containers from tubs at the drug store as a zero-waste option. No need for gimmicky charitable donations etc. I just want basic zero-packaging, carbon neutral products.
I have bought from a company called Au natural from NZ. You can buy a recyclable aluminium bottle full with product and then you get bio degradable pouches with the products to refill. Or you can just buy the refill pouches. It's a great idea and the few products I've used are lovely for the skin. 🌻
I want more "normal" products with low waste options in general. Aluminum anti perspirant, normal lotion, fluoride toothpaste, etc. Waiting for big companies to catch on.
I dont like this product but it is his first try u cant expect the best. In terms of ingredients there are not bad but in the industry noone is thoughtful much when it comes to disabilities.
So in a nutshell, another hyped skinfluencer came out with his own skin line that does the same basic thing every other skin care line does....just smaller. These youtubers need to stop.
Not going to purchase this for a few reasons, specifically Hyram’s ongoing issue with fragrance and essential oils as he rips brands for adding them in their products yet he added them in his. The whole selfless theme gives me creepy vibes simply because he is speaking as if he is giving so much to charity yet it is only 10% and the Ad that is provided for this brand have a theme of white savior. In addition, he complains so much about over pricing and small packaging, yet he is doing the same. I would respect him more if he was not so much of a hypocrite. I saw his other TH-cam Friends rave about his products and never mention these flaws. I am glad you at lease attempt to provide an honest review.
Not sure where you are getting your info re: fragrance and essential oils in his products. There definitely aren’t any. I actually purchased the whole line to try, and have studied the ingredients list, and the products are definitely essential oil and fragrance free. There are moisturizing oils, but no fragrant oils.
@@timc3509 That makes sense, but that is very different. Using effective ingredients that happen to be mildly natural fragrant is definitely not the same as adding fragrance or essential oils. I am extremely sensitive to scent or fragrance and his products don't bother me at all.
Genuine question: what percentage did you expect to be donated? I mean there are plenty of employees behind his products that have to get their salary so I‘m wondering what would‘ve been okay in this case- also to be taken into consideration: his products are not that pricey imo when taking into account that he donates a percentage to two causes and considering that his products are easy to recycle and have good ingredients- wishing you a great day!
This is the first honest review I have seen yet. Even though it seems like you and hyram may be friends or good aqquantiances, there doesn't seem to be any bias. Though I won't be purchasing this and this launch made me really dislike hyram. His promotions for this reminded me of those " non profit" companies guilt trip you into donating. The way he kept mentioning about how your purchase goes towards water and etc. He never mentions how much of the proceeds actually go towards that though. Idk it just seems very gimmicky to me I guess.
I have major respect for you for several reasons. I love how transparent you are while remaining thoughtful to all living beings around you. I admire your choice in not using a skin filter. I imagine at times…it feels desirable but you make an active stance to not feed into it. If you ever do use filters or makeup, it’s stated. You never let us wonder about integrity. Your honesty about sponsorships and overall thoughts on products are intentionally out in the open. Your love for helping others, including animals and the planet is a key element to your character not just your online presence and we see that. Thank you for not being shady and caring so deeply. I hope you know that your sensitivity and thoroughness is celebrated. Keep creating from the heart. ❤️✨
She sometimes gets so much shit for being honest or upfront. People want everything to be sugar-coated. She was being criticized in a dr grays video for posting a positive comment. People think if you dont agree about someone's choices you're bad.
Out of all the hypocrisy in this brand, calling it "selfless" is probably the most irritating. If he were being selfless, he would use his influence to campaign for already existing, larger brands to become more sustainable. He'd advocate for people to use simple, affordable products and donate the money they save to these kinds of causes. Instead he gets a tax break on unnecessarily expensive products, and gets praise for doing things other brands have been doing for years. One more brand donating 10% of their profits (IF they follow through on that "ambition") and using sugar cane plastic is not going to change the industry. But he sure looks good for making such a big deal out of it.
I think the ethical sourcing is good though. Living in a 3rd world country, it makes me happy when brands try to make sure the raw materials they use are being sourced without child labour and exploitation
@@laurac9453 you’re not the only one. I was thinking this same thing. Put your money where your mouth is and prove what you say. If my corner coffee shop can get fair trade certified I think he could’ve as well. Although if he just says he is that’s enough for his stans. The problem is he doesn’t have to do any of these things. The people buying this brand are buying it no matter what it is. It’s kind of creepy in the comments on his videos right now.
@@madhusree1472 like commenters said, we just have to take his word for that. As far as we know, he could be doing exactly what every other company does. Plus, we don't know what his definition of "ethical" is. Maybe to him it's ethical, but to the people and animals being exploited it isn't. There's a lot of talk for very little action with this brand.
0:00 Intro 1:55 Centella and Green Tea Cleanser 3:55 Serums! 4:03 Mandelic Acid and Rice Bran Serum 6:16 Retinol and Rainbow Algae Serum 11:04 Salicylic Acid and Sea Kelp Serum 13:26 Niacinamide and Maracuja Moisturizer 15:39 The collection as a whole, pros of the collection 18:10 Criticisms 20:05 Target demographic 22:05 Addressing controversy 23:33 Skin after product use 24:33 "So, what does this mean for you?"/Final thoughts
“Selfless by Hyram” is so cringey. Here’s some alternatives that I feel better for the vibe of the whole thing: Narcissistic by Hyram White Saviour Complex by Hyram Charity is a Tax Write Off by Hyram Charity Doesn’t Fix Broken Systems by Hyram, and Shameless Cash Grab by Hyram Yeah, no thanks. I actually prefer when capitalist companies don’t try to make themselves seem “selfless”, but are honest about the fact that they’re there to make money. That is the entire point, and charity washing doesn’t make me feel better, it just makes me annoyed.
@@debbiemccune1952 I can’t believe I forgot that one! It should definitely be added to the list! I think I hate this so much because I’m usually someone seen as a “charity case”, so the whole saviour complex thing (and upping themselves for helping out the poor unfortunates!) just really, really irritates me. If he’d just been like “this is my new skincare line, I think the ingredients are good, give it a try”, I wouldn’t be bothered at all. But calling himself “selfless” for making a skincare line he’ll likely make beaucoup bucks from? Nah. It just pisses me off.
Not in my wish list and probably never gonna, but I was really expecting your review on it. Ps: God to know that I’m not the only one who thinks that is soo little products for theses prices. This is everything, except eco friendly.
I really wish he had started his own e-commerce site instead of yet another skin care line. I’m sure that is t where the big money is but I would have loved a one stop shop for hyram approved products.
This would have been a perfect idea and he would have still made loads of money. I ran a skincare forum that was sponsored (they paid for the forum software/maintenance) by a skincare reseller. Depending on the brand, the mark up was on average 50-75%. That is just the wholesale to retail mark-up. The manufacturer/formulator/etc. are still making more that that. It is mind boggling how cheap it actually is to produce most skincare products.
if this is targeted to beginners in their teens and early twenties who don't know a lot about skincare and the science behind it, the problem still is the high price point that fails to target this audience. Especially if people don't know a lot about certain ingredients, they won't be willing to pay 20 to 30$ for just one product. Let alone people in this age range don't have that money to spend freely.
This is what Hyram has been working towards for years. It was never about being honest or helping people, it was about obtaining an audience and creating his own line to make as much money as possible. There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but I cannot stand when influencers pretend to care about the environment or others when all they really care about are the numbers in their bank account. Don’t get me started on the name. Are you kidding me? What is Selfless about this? Are you giving up all of your profits to help others? No. Are you giving the product away for free to people who need it? No. It’s not selfless. It’s the opposite.
If he really wants to use selfless name so bad it would have been wayy better if he instead created some kind of product/bundles and named it selfless edition where 100% of the profit went to charity. That way there is no bullshit and less complicated. I feel like the way SBM brand is the way it is now bc it's complicated to manage a brand AND trying to make it sustainable human and nature resources (which is why many brands just don't do that). They had to cut a lot of corner and the result is well, a mess. Hyram is a good person, I believe he is still, but too ambitious and by the end he forgot what he was originally aiming for.
But his fans actually ask him to make a line too. So both sides honestly. Like buying to support him, yes. But to pay that much for his name, no. 😂 me stick with TO and IKList. If I have more money, I could invest in Skinceutical or something like that. Not a brand from influencers.
@@Kxehjnigrvhtjhejiijjjoowjjjyhc except this is not the truth. People are exaggerating so much. He has done nothing wrong. People just want to have a person to hate on.
Why is no one talking about the audio, there's this horrible static hiss. I'm 90 seconds in, listening with headphones, and I don't think I can watch the rest. Which is disappointing, cause it sounded like this was gonna be a legit honest review.
the same old question, why sustainability has to be 100% more expensive compare to The Inkey list product, in Australia the cheapest product is $33 (cleanser), the highest is $48 (retinol), if this is for his audience then it's 4 white kids who got money.
@@aleksap5459 unfortunately 0.2% retinol is soooo mild that i highly doubt it will work. Not to mention that its encapsulated and the amt which is converted is likely even more negligibles
@@llamaliammm Yeah exactly, I'd rather pay more for an actual potent concentration. Encapsulated retinol in this serum will be so useless lmao, not impressed with Hyram over this tbh
In Australia I can get a tube of differin gel with no prescription for $27, that gives me enough left iver to buy a nice soothing or brightening serum to use alongside it for the price of just his retinol serum.
I think that he has passed the cost of the donations onto the consumer, hence the price of the products. Which is disappointing and defeats the purpose of supporting the brand. I already donate to charities and buy lots of my products locally so don't see how purchasing a product from the other side of the world is helping the environment.. it would be more revolutionary if he and the company bared the cost of the donations and kept the consumer cost minimal. In my opinion anyway
Way over priced. And other companies already give to multiple charities get your facts straight. You can't say other companies need to step it up when they already do they just don't go on TH-cam and act like there the only ones
This brand is a good candidate for a video “The truth nobody will tell you about Selfless by Hyram”. And join the legends of the series like Drunk Elephant, Sunday Riley, Mario Badescu, etc. Greenwashing, selfishness, tax exemptions disguised as donations to charities...
FINALLY an honest review that actually addressed some of the problems with the brand. One cannot simply review the products and ignore the numerous issues surrounding. They are inextricably linked. Nor can one reasonably claim to have seen significant improvements in a week. One of my favorite SkinTubers claimed the retinol made his skin better in under a week. That’s not even possible. He also failed to comment on even a single problem with the brand. It was so disheartening. I almost unsubscribe. I respect this review from you. I honestly expected that you’d be the only major SkinTuber to address this brand in an honest, ethical way. There are a number of issues you didn’t address. But honestly, that might’ve been crossing into burning bridges territory. So I understand why you didn’t comment on those things. THANK YOU 🙏🏻 (also, thank you for not wearing makeup & using a filter while trying to sell me a skincare product…SUSS 🤨) Edit- if it wasn’t clear, I absolutely will not be buying this brand. If I hadn’t already unsubscribed from Hyram, I certainly would’ve after this launch.
I honestly have never really followed him since he started calling himself a “specialist” when he has no qualifications or experience in skin care. Only dermatologists are “specialists” for skin. This is what happens when someone who uses google to get their research and form opinions tries to create a skincare line and the ingredients contradict him because he doesn’t understand formulations and compounding I guess lol.
does everyone hear that annoying buzz/static in the back of the video? MY EARSSSS and head, ugh.......clicked as soon as i saw this, though, lmao, was like "let's see how brutal it really is"...i have yet to watch james' video, but i don't expect anything but love from him (note: i don't hate james, lolol, in fact he's my favorite "skinfluencer" and the only one whose videos i watch on a regular basis/every upload; it was the same with beauty within, but i've been lazy in regards to bothering with a bunch of different things lately, so i'm behind on their vids, still like them though!), just cuz he's friends or whatever with hyram, so...somewhat understandable, but i'll find out once i watch it, i suppose
@@quantumwombat I'm soldier-ing through out of genuine interest to see how brutal she gets, but it definitely sucks 🥲 gonna pop an advil or 2 in a bit, lmfao
........really.......🙄🙄🙄 the colours of the products are really mean to people who are sensitive to those colours....hey look I found something to be offended about too!
@@pokemontas8025 I suffer from tremors and reduced motor function on my hands and would be unable to use these products. It’s a real problem that real people have to deal with. It’s not a matter of being “mean.” It’s about regular everyday people being able to use it.
@@pokemontas8025 for a brand that claims to be soooooo socially conscious, and claims to be “made for everyone”, it seems like a pretty ableist oversight. Even for someone like me who’s mainly physically able, there’d be days where I couldn’t squeeze those tubes if my tendonitis was acting up. I hate to think how hard it would be to handle for someone with arthritis, or any disorder that affects grip strength or motor stability. Also, for that price, you’d think they’d consider a more effective dosing system.
I feel like that is what happens when your channel grows too fast, his opinions and approaches didn't have a chance to develop with time and it ends up being messy, contradictory and rushed.
I disagree with your comments that lack of transparency is due to trade secrets. That is not an excuse. Sustainability without transparency is greenwashing. Especially not disclosing the donation amounts. If your advertisements are going to use a heavy amount of little black faces you need to be real specific what your products are actually doing to help those people.
They could make profit and still donate the money with less pricing that is what i am most disappointed with . I have been following Hyram literally from the day 1 and I am sad that he did the exact same thing he used to criticize.
The definition "affordable" should always be coupled with the amount of product you get. Aaaaaanddddd Selfless is NOT affordable. It's in the medium to high price range. The cleanser is 20€ for 150ml, I can get the Soon Jung 5.5 cleanser, which is REALLY good and is 150ml as well, for 6€. So yeah, the intentions are good and all, but together with donating to charities and help the environment, the brand should allow almost everyone to purchase its products if it's branded as "affordable" by being a byproduct of The Inkey List.
Yes! I love the Soon Jung cleanser too. I live here in the Philippines, and sellers who get their products directly from South Korea would often sell lower than $6 on monthly online sales.
The prices of SBH seem similar to or a even bit cheaper than First Aid Beauty and Paula's Choice, neither of which people seem to have problems with. I think the issue here is that Hyram always emphasized that good skin care can be very affordable and his skin care line does not reflect that value.
in my opinion Hyram really missed one huge problem in the beauty industry- testing on animals. he fights for the eco system but unlike cassandra he doesnt mention the cruelty at all. The way humans treat animals is a major issue in climate change as well. I would be soo happy if at least one of his products would focus on this issue and would donate to charities that fight for animal rights.
I mean yeah use your money to build a brand but don't sell it by saying it's not for your pocket and just for the benefit of the world. Business is a business, and its primary goal is profit. There's nothing selfless about a business.
I'm the odd one out, but I've never thought hyrem was amazing, in fact calling himself a skin specialist annoys me... He is a sales person for a brand. That doesn't give you the knowledge to be an expert. This being so lack lustre really doesn't surprise me.
Now we see why he tirelessly is promoting the inkey list.😒 Although I would use any of the inkey lists products over these overpriced items. But this has me questioning why did the inkey list do this? As a quick cash grab with how popular hyram is as a face to sell product but also using the whole gen z cares about the environment so let's market the sustainable aspect towards them as well. Total irony and contradictory to what hyrams always preaching about on his channel🙄 I'm done with his channel completely.
@@yasdnil_ right now every brand is taking advantage of the new generations it started with millennials. I have fallen for it too. And im realizing the past 5 years ive expended so much money without realizing it. Even the government in my country used the LGBT community to promote our city as gay friendly. Its actually friendly towards the community and made posters including all the community but it was only done because they realized lgbt community brings money to the city. It has its pros and cons.
Same here! I watched one or two of his videos and haven't been able to stand him since. His personality was so off putting to me, and his advice really wasn't anything groundbreaking.
Thank you for the honest review! I am really happy for Hyram, but these products are not for me. That being said, I think it is a bit of a copout to say "well this isn't perfect but nothing is perfect!" It really seems most concerns stem from a lot of these things being contrary to statements Hyram has made in the past. I doubt anyone expects it to be perfect, but I do worry about fans blindly going all in for these products, and I worry about the image created for these products.
Thanks for the review! I won’t purchase though, I dislike the white savior complex Hyram seems to be demonstrating, what rubbed me the wrong way was the use of “Maracuja” like it’s going to be empowering, it’s pretty much passion fruit, as a Latin American I’ve noticed American companies rarely ever empower our communities, but they market they do. And they benefit from using our languages to market things as exotic and interesting. The irony of using “selfless” as a brand name only highlights his arrogance. I also dislike the packaging, it’s definitely boring and very similar to the Coola packaging. The price point is too expensive for his audience as well, specially for such small products. I don’t like the fact that he has built his platform by criticising people, particularly women, a shadiness for using something that he dislikes, that I don’t enjoy. His Cerave secretive sponsorship, the fact that he rarely ever shows himself using the products he recommends. I won’t support Hyram. Thank you Cassandra for being honest with us.
I don’t understand everyone hopping on the bandwagon saying “white saviour” if he were to do nothing at all people would be mad, but when he tries to make change it’s an issue? What are people supposed to do when nothing ever good enough?
@@David-zj1ji it’s the way he goes about it, the stock images of Africa in his commercials, the “ambition” to donate, the selfless title for the brand. I understand being frustrated that no matter what ones does we can never please everyone, but many many people are upset about this. One person’s intuition and analysis could be wrong but hundreds of people have similar thoughts about the brand and Hyram. So if you feel his efforts are good enough for you that’s okay, not everyone will think the same.
I'm from Romania and even though I was extremely grateful that Hyram's skincare line was available to us so early through Sephora, it is so expensive that buying his entire skincare is almost equivalent to our minimum wage. I was so excited to buy his products and I expected them to be as affordable as Cerave, which is very cheap even in Romania, only to find out I have to save money for a month to be able to buy one of his products.
I'm not a Hyram hater or a fan but his his PR videos give "missionary" and "white savior" complex vibes. Coming from someone that works in development projects with international cooperation in developing countries (or so called third world countries), the interventions have to be so carefully prepared to make a proper impact and sadly, most of the times, donations from private companies do more harm that good for so many complex reasons... In reality this is just a manipulative marketing technique. I want to think he has good intentions but he's making it seem like his a savior and that by purchasing some of his products you are saving the earth while at the same time he's not even being transparent about the donations.
It's weird because he literally did a video about how he had done missionary work and had regretted it because his experience was that it disenfranchised the local workforce. I'm really not sure what's going on with him
@@desi1448 donations are very often stolen by corrupt government officials to keep themselves wealthy & the extra funding goes to the oppression of their populace via military and/or purposeful mismanagement.
I am soooo relieved to see these comments. I tried commenting on one of Hyram’s video because I felt like the comment section there was just blindly in love with everything and saying that they’d buy every product just because it’s Hyram. I love all of you!
I’m so disappointed in the fact that he released a skincare line. If there’s one thing we and this earth doesn’t need is another bunch of plastic tubes :/ lot of white savior BS, waterfall promotional videos give me cringey 80s vibes, I’m surprised he didn’t choose “we are the one” as the main song :/ it’s just a selfish money grab trying to pretend to be better.
Honestly, where the f*ck was the sunscreen ??? I know they take longer to develop, so postpone to launch. Idk how he can sell exfoliators and retinol without a SPF available too. Smh
Love Hyram but this isn’t it and calling the line “selfless” sounds pretentious and self absorbed. I really wanted to try the skincare line when he announced it but after seeing it I’m not as excited. I feel bad for feeling this way but I have to be honest 😢 will still support his content.(edit: I don’t like the packaging 😢)
So so true. Hes ridden his personality too far in my opinion, I already found it shady that he would often recommend products from companies he was working for without disclosing that he worked there but Hyram has absolutely no background or education to speak on skincare the way he does, and he absolutely doesn't have the qualifications to create his own line. He presents himself as a lot more of an expert than he really is and has an audience of millions of teens who don't know any better than to question his qualifications. I enjoyed his channel but this launch just confirms it to me, hes not who he appears to be in my humble opinion.
@@Thisiskoko104 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 the non-disclosed sponsors did it for me. I know that there is a lot of inside baseball when it comes too the business side of youtube, but the FTC have been super clear. We as the audience need to know the difference between an advert and a genuine opinion - otherwise how can we trust you? It actually makes perfect sense that he would make his line the way he did - because he has no knowledge/background and needed the expertise of The Inkey List, plus it’s one big advert for the brand a la CeraVe. But at least we KNOW we are being sold to this time….😏
@@EmmaTheCowie Thats also not even touching the issue that he continues to promote and encourage people to move to Hawaii, when indigenous Hawaiians are being priced out of and displaced from their own neighborhoods by wealthy white Americans moving there to make their Instagram more interesting. When asked why he moved there he said it was because "He wanted to move to the most culturally diverse place he could think of and that was Hawaii" when a very very fast google search will show you no place in Hawaii is even in the top 25 most diverse cities in the USA, would he not do even the most basic research of where is actually the most diverse if that is what he actually wanted? I dont buy it i honestly don't. I do think a lot of it is sincerely held but hes super super performative in a big way and I dont think he's even self aware of a lot of it TBH.
I am underwhelmed to say the least that his product line turned out this way. He always said “ingredients don’t lie b*tch” and yet these products don’t bring anything new. Active ingredients paired with “good” botanicals… he isn’t saving the earth here. He is just adding noise. Nothing essentially new. Disappointing. I guess from hereon his content will change too. Of course he’ll have to champion these products. Ugh. I’m not into this trend. I can also see contradictions from what he has been preaching based on how these products are formulated. Gosh, all about the money.
This brand is is an absolute yikes: From the greenwashing to the overpriced sample sized bottles to the white saviour syndrome this whole thing seems to exude... i was a really big fan of Hyram, but the way he went from an honest skincare reviewer that reccomended actual good affordable products to exactly the thing he preached against really turned me off...
That’s great hyram is saving the world or whatevs but I haaaaate this so much lmao. Everything about it. The packaging? Big no. The ingredients? I’m just not crazy about. I can def do better with stuff I already have here. Let’s do all the charity & change stuff with better products 🥰 & he’s been giving me “savior vibes” lately anyway 😭😂 Cass. I love you. Thank you for your honest review ❤️
Maracujá is literally passion fruit in Brazilian Portuguese (indigenous brazillian word, tupi-guarani) The pronunciation of the "j" is not like in Spanish...
Right!? Like ugh that bothered me so much it’s literally just passion fruit but he’s sticking with the foreign name to make it sound interesting and exotic. So opportunistic.
Passion fruit (lat. forma edulis) and maracuja (lat. forma flavicarpa) are not the same thing. They come from the same botanical family but are different fruits.
The audacity of launching a skin care brand and then advocate for a safe enviroment. If you care about nature, why putting out there another products? He is all about the coin people
A bit off topic but how do all these TH-camrs test a product for one week and come back with all these opinions on the performance of the products? Lmao it’s so funny to me. They all do this meanwhile they preach consistency in using products
The price is higher cuz they donate it You give them your money and they donate your money using that company named and BOOM they got To pay LESS tax because the donation 💀💀💀💀💀 And cuz of that they earn more profits This is so disgusting
It's only green washing if it's not actually helping the environment as is claimed. He's said the impact is fully traceable so we'll be able to analyse in full how much this has helped in about a year. We'll see if it lives up to the claim
Every k-beauty skincare that I use are at least $5-10 more affordable than every single product from this line. Pretty disappointed, but if you want to support him and can afford to do so, go for it and let me know how it goes for you. I'll stick to my hefty rice and beta-glucan tubes 😂
@@wen3066 oooo yea thats the one 👌. I also use the Cosrx nourishing rice overnight mask which is actually a really nice cream moisturizer (don't let the name fool you lol).
@@wen3066 Why tf does he needs any support? He's rolling in tons of money anyway and one can directly contribute to charity rather than go through this ridiculousness.
He could’ve just came out with a normal skincare line without all this “selfless”, “green washing” overly pretentious mission statement. I’ve always thought he tried way too hard to fit into the skincare community. His content was hard to follow because he is a hypocrite. It’s just sad that people like that have millions of followers- I wish I can understand what the subscribers see in him.
okay so i promised the butterflies dumplings in the comments. i keep my promises. 🥟🥟🥟🥟🥟
this dumpling is for doris. 🥟
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I love dumplings.
@@estrellakor4881 who doesn’t???
Omg, seriously, I see you in every live
@@charlotte.meinhardt hey girl!
@@estrellakor4881 same
It’s very frustrating to me as a South African that “feeding the starving kids in Africa” is a marketing ploy but then we can’t even buy these products because it’s sold through Sephora who doesn’t sell to us. Please don’t use us for your marketing
As a South African also, I think that's a really damaging perspective to have. "Don't help people who need help because I, a South African who doesn't need assistance, doesn't need help and won't benefit from that help". You do know there are actually starving children in Africa so why would you be apposed to them receiving help, regardless of how it's gotten... It's really self centred.
@@PurpleCurllGurl be quiet
@@kawaiikoibito3268 nah, I don't think I will. Thanks though.
Courteney, the NSDAP bride. be quiet and stay that way .
@@PHlophe hmmm, let me contemplate that proposal for a moment... Nah, the answer is still no. Also, great use of the Nazi thing considering my last name. Whatta zinger. You should take that stand up performance on the road, where it belongs.
The tubes are so tiny man. They look like sample sizes.
To last one week for me.
They have the size as the regular one. 1 FL oz
The Inkey List sizes are normal but the price make up for it however Hyrams brand is super expensive for the amount you get. Def not worth it.
Because you are only supposed to use a tiny bit, max is 5 drops for the serums.
Yeah and Triple the price of Everything else on the Inkey List website smh This Crap is over priced and he's definitely green washing, plus how much of a percentage is being donated to the 2 foundations?? I don't think he said..... I wonder why smh
To be honest, the products would've been more eco-friendly (edit: and affordable) if they came in larger sizes
Or just didn’t exist we don’t need more skincare brands
At least if the products were like super super innovative why not but it’s not the case
If he really cared that much about the earth he could just have raised money to help it rather than creating a skincare brand that no matter how ethical it is it’s going to create waste and pollution…
@@alexnowaka4391 well people were constantly commenting on his videos “imagine if hyram had his own skincare line” 🥴
Yeah. Like CeraVe product sizes.
@@poshoween doesn’t mean he had to make one 😂
Instead of giving to charities (although admirable) I would be more interested in a brand that is quantifiably carbon neutral or has zero non-biodegradable waste/ or zero packaging waste altogether.
As a licensed esthetician this product is extremely overpriced and this does not fit for everyone’s skin. If you want to support charity’s please send your money directly to the charity’s.
I feel like they are nothing special either ...
Exactly re: donating directly to charities. I won’t buy and have little or no interest in H. I think his line is also everything but selfless. It speaks volumes of his hubris.
right? you could buy much cheaper options and donate whats left directly where its needed. that way you'd "skip the middleman".
Exactly.. donate directly .. but also people forget that those donations are a tax write off for the company
Because donating directly is too inconvenient and a hurdle and only a fraction of the population does that or works voluntary. Donating indirectly by buying product you‘d get either way is easier. Psychology 😉
To be honest, I’ve unsubscribe hyram after he launched his brand. No doubt there a great message behind this brand but because I remember how he used to bash the other brands for having over priced product for simple formula and then he shows up his own brand with the pretty same motive.
Same
It’s disappointing to see what money can do to people
I immediately unsubscribed too. I wonder how many subs he lost.
He also made a rant video about humanitarian and white saviorism but then make a promotional video about black children's poverty to build his brand's image and boost sale, didn't sit well with me😕
@@bleu9396 the whole thing was one disgusting manipulative tactic after the other. Unfortunately he has a younger audience and just like the James Charles stans, they don’t care one bit if he’s using them or not. They will defend him to the end.
I appreciate that you don't use a skin filter that's not alway the case with skinfulencers
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Like H___m? Lol
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@@Fireflies817 Pretty sure he has good lighting not a filter.
@Aaron E he’s said that he uses a filter.
So basically he has aimed it for teens /people getting into skincare for the first time, but for their parents to pay for.
Lol yep
Bingo! Most of his fans are too young to be financially stable, or even have jobs. I still wish him well, but this is obviously a hypocritical, poorly thought out money grab.
The new Proactiv
Rich parents - my middle class parents got me one Neutrogena soap and a visit to my GP for acne when I was in high school. Anything else I had to save for, and forget a dermatologist! They said I'd grow out of it. I finally did.
@@msi8311 omg XD
This company made me unsubscribe from Hyram because of the PR. The green washing, white saviorism, and use of using third world counties as images to make people feel good about buying this while at the same time not making the products available in countries in Africa made me lose all respect for hyram
Yes - I was Icked out and incredibly disappointed...have been religiously watching Hyram for a couple of years , but am now unsubscribed.☹️
It was pretty cringe wasn't it. And that over the top music...
THIS truly is what turned me off to the brand. The marketing in the videos just is too much to me.
Literally same, it was my last straw before I finally unsubscribed
all the release videos were so dramatic!
He always preaches how skincare should be affordable but his prices are EXPENSIVE, especially if you're a teenager
True
The products are soooo small too. 🤨
@@rba4377 no.
@@rba4377 How much did Hyram pay you to say that?
@@tokuko9027 too funny that you think that only people that dont know how to do proper research can be outspoken lol
With us “donating” they’re just avoiding taxes. We’re basically paying their taxes.
True.. No offense.. But tbh.. If you have a large company.. You can just directly donate some of your revenue to charities without using marketing tactics for you to obtain money
Let’s also talk about the organizations. Very little of the $$ actually goes toward affecting change. It sits in pockets of executives.
@@melbygrace the rainforest trust has a good trust rating, no?
omg. never thought of it that way but totally make sense. 😳
That's not exactly how tax deductions work. Usually donating part of the profits is simply marketing. You either get more people to buy the products or they'll be willing to pay more for the product and this will increase your profit by a higher amount than the donations are. You might give away 10% of profits but if this increases profits by e.g. 30% you're still making a net profit
It's funny how Hyram went from bashing brands for not having the advertised active on top of the incilist to doing the exact same in his products 👀
Was so turned off by the promo and the green washing of these products that i ended up unsubscribing. How do you go from promoting budget friendly brands to making your own brand which is so expensive when your audience is literally teens to young adults. The irony 😭
SAME
I unsubscribed him too.
Same reason as you and I feel like once reviewers have their own brand, no future review can be honest.
💯 I was so annoyed I unsubscribed as well and haven't looked at his channel since. It's a contradiction of everything he talks about literally.
At those prices… might as well get the really nice Korean skincare products he raves about. Korean skincare really is on top of the game (although I’m still loving Paula’s Choice BHA soooooooo much).
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as a poc, i don’t think i will spend my money on this brand. the promotional video and marketing of this brand give off white saviour vibes. it feels like the missionaries who visit to manipulate the natives of a country and since hyram is ex-mormon he should have known better. also, the way they used the clips of people in africa as a marketing tactic didn’t sit well me.
You put my uneasy feeling into words
Well hyram is a white man who lives in Hawaii, so it makes sense for him to feel like he’s saving the world lol.
I thought I'm the who felt uneasy watching the video 🤦
And he knows he's doing this too, he made a video a couple years back talking about how he literally used to go on white saviour trips in africa
Same... it's humiliating imo. Why do they always have to portray Africans like they're some sort of cute endangered animal? They're people like you and me and they don't need some rich white guy's fake sympathy.
As a PoC his PR videos gave me missionary vibes and it’s very uncomfortable to watch.
I agree and I’m sorry but a 20 minutes video for each products is painful for my terrible attention span.
Yup, major "White Savior" moment.
Also, naming your skincare line "Selfless"? Yuck.
I've never been able to watch more than two minutes of his adverts, as I just find them so pretentious and self-serving and cliche, but I've heard plenty of people talk about the whole "white savior" complex. Sorry, but sending a few pennies (if they even do that, they haven't stated a set amount they'll donate, only a "we aspire to hit X amount") from a $200 purchase isn't going to save starving African children. More feel-good jargon trying to be a hit with young children.
It was cringey...
First black people to appear on his channel were starving black kids! And that's crazy! It's all weird!
I dont know anything aboit formulations, so I can't comment on that. HOWEVER, the recyclability claims turned me off from using these products, I work in the resource recovery industry and claiming that 'bio based' plastics are recyclable is quite misleading and goes against all the efforts that waste educators do, when consumers find out this type of packaging is not getting recycled, we are the ones who need to clean up the mess and re-educate them on the reasons why and how it doesn't apply to all packaging. I really hope I'm wrong and that the company consulted with the waste industry and performed tests for collection, sorting and re-processing in the places where these products are being sold that backs up those claims.
Honestly, Paula's choice and Korean products pack a better punch than SBH. I would continue to use the skin care products that already work for me and then donate to charity.
Agree and Krave Beautyyy 💚
@@karisma3502 IMO krave beauty is much better than SBH ehemmm
@Lynn Taylor Would you mind sharing the alternatives to Paula's Choice? I have been looking for alternatives to PC products, ever since Unilever acquired it. If the prices go up and the brand is no longer cruelty free, I wouldn't use PC again.
@@kaizerabdulsolarboime2920 Agreed, I just wish they were able to put out more products
@@skinnypomegranate Krave Beauty doesn't put out more products than they need to because the company believes in not contributing to the hyperconsumerism within the skincare industry. Liah Yoo discusses that topic on her channel
the real selfless act for the environment is to not make more skincare products lol
THIS
RIGHT?! The level of green washing is off the charts!
100% true
@@MrTmenzo to be fair the ultimate sacrifice for nature to truly heal is for humanity to go extinct but my comment is about skincare bec we r in a skincare video arent we?
True him naming it selfless is so corney lol
Opposite of selfess imo
The name of the brand itself is just cringey to me. “Selfless”, and using it as something to “spark social change”. If Hyram really intends to make a difference in at least one person’s life, he would do what Pewds do, donate from the earnings of his streams and not make an ad out of it and use Africa as the backdrop.
You got my like by just mentioning Pewds. He really is a secret charity man. Never really bragged about it.
@@rosefamilia3169 Agreed. You can easily tell someone who purely has good intentions versus someone who’s trying to act like one. The latter is always going to parade about the “good deeds” they’ve done. It’s also quite ironic that Hyram made a video about his trip to a 3rd world country and why he won’t do it anymore, and then this.
@Scarlet Baxter True. The intro on his ad “I don’t want to create a skincare line unless it sparks a social change.” but only 10% goes to charities (the 10% is not even guaranteed). As if his skincare line was born out of the necessity to make a difference in the world.
Or use his huge platform to petition existing brands to consider more sustainable approaches.
Not start yet another skincare line in an oversaturated market.
And definitely not send out PR that generates waste aka mini projectors.
@@curiousmind2168 I agree. It bothers me. Sounds so phony
Seeing Cassandra struggle with those tubes for half of the vid 😅
Actually this felt so real and seeing Cassandra real skin.. like so real
I can donate to a charity without Hyram keeping a portion as a middle man. Using donations as a major marketing point, calling it selfless, going against their own skincare principles... is repulsive.
Here's the thing tho. Im assuming you buy skin care products and will continue to do so. I'd rather buy a product that takes some of the profit and donates it
@@michRobalino yeah but why not just buy a skincare product and donate yourself? he's only donating 10% which if you do the maths is not even 0.50$ on a 30$ product and you're basically paying his taxes as well (bc in that way he's avoiding taxes) if you want to donate just donate yourself and you'll know that the money will go there instead of just trusting someone on the internet lol
That’s a completely valid point, I once saw a story about how when you donate to charities promotions through corporations (example when grocery stores do charity drives at the register) you’re just helping financing their tax write off … and it hit me, holy crap this person is absolutely right.
@@michRobalino you could buy cheaper products like cerave and just donate to a charity that way the money is directly going to the charity and not hyrams bank
You can do both. I think it's geared more towards the audience of people who don't donate regularly. If hyram was saying stop donating to ur fave charities and rely on these products alone, that would be fcked up.
And yes they all benefit from avoiding taxes but at the end of the day, the small donation of each product adds up with the huge amount of sales.. and *people who don't care about donating and will probably never donate in their lives won't even know they're contributing a few cents to a donation*
Idk about u but I think that's worth it. I think about it as extra donations those charities probably weren't going to have
I unfollowed Hyram awhile ago. I couldn't put up with his misinformation, undisclosed sponsorships, and his haughty overdramatic attitude. Though I did still admire his views on sustainability and humanitarian work. But now I don't even think he's being truthful about that. It all seems like a marketing ploy to me.
Honestly I had drifted away from his content but when he released “Reacting to people bashing my skincare line “ I unsubscribed completely. (Edit : I wrote routine instead of skincare line before oops)
@@celestialapparitions GOD! I just saw that. He has his head inside his own rectum. I don't always agree with Dr. Dray but the way people disrespect an actual dermatologist in favor of random youtube people is so damn gross. Props to her for not cursing somebody out.
as a pharmacist/toxicologist/safety assessor I am not a fan of this brand for many reasons, first they changed the formula on the website without telling why (i have sereen shot proof) and i even asked in comments and in Dm on Instagram (still no answer), second i know hyram is a big advocate for no fragrances but in some of his product he used Benzyl alcohol which is considered a fragrance, and the product is marketed fragrance free, then the first product that contains "rainbow algae" according to his phenoxyethanol trick anything comes after phenoxyethanol is lower than 1% and his star ingredient the "rainbow algae" is under 1% and to be effective according to the supplier study it should be above 1.5%, plus he did the same as the inkeylist with succinic acid labeled as the active but not, rainbow algae extract won't be the ingredient that brightening the skin but actually tranexamic acid that exist but didn't have the spotlight, all of this is so shady in my opinion.
One more thing, if you are so cautious about environment in my opinion it's better not to lunch a skincare brand.
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He's a bit misleading he will say he uses 3% Centella Asiatica but it is a complex and the actual amount is much lower. And with the Rainbow Algae his website states 1.5% Rainbow Algae Complex (0.15% Rainbow Algae extract):
@@singingdaffodil yeah and they changed the whole formula of the retinol serum without saying why and giving notice to people that's sketchy to me, i feel this whole skincare line was created in a hurry to be honest, no hate 🤷🏼♂️
Sounds like hypocrite...
"If you are so cautious about the environment in my opinion it's better not to launch a skincare brand"
LITERALLY!
Idk why they called it “Selfless” when the prices are too expensive for the average person and only 10% of sales are donated to charity 😐
They only said they had the "ambition" to donate 10%.
They didn't actually commit to a set %
So no, we don't even know how much, if anything, is going to the "charity partners".
I checked to see how much is it on sephora and I would never pay that much for half less moisturiser and cleanser I already use which are even a few bucks cheaper
Better than nothing 😐
Plus those donations are probably just for tax evasion
AND the fact that it just generates more waste plus the tubes are incredibly small. So little product for such a high ass price 😕😑
I’m definitely not spending $30 just to still have acne :(
Gorl we going tp this together. Acne sisters anytime. With those money you could go to a derm, periodt. Lov u
Yup, especially when Panoxyl works better and is less than 10 usd
Hahaha such a good point. Like why spend any money then
Deadass- no matter how many products and medications I try I STILL have acne
yeah for sure i’ll need something stronger…but i think it’s good for people who have sensitive acne prone skin that can’t use high actives 🤷♀️
Skincare for everyone: of course, it only includes Northern Hemisphere people even though it uses Southern Hemisphere resources 🤮.
SAY THAT FUCKING SHIT AGAIN! LOUDERRRRRR
and 20 dollars shipment if you want to buy a product LMAO
@@Hanna-rp2lt wouldn't be a problem if the USA hadn't coup'd and destabilized the economy of my country until 20 dollars end up being enough to by like 10 bottles of moisturizer
THIS RIGHT HERE
say it brother/sister
Most big companies donate to charities, its a good tax break, he's doing no different but making it part of his whole brand image to drive sales.
You could make your own 4 step regime from other existing derm recommended products containing higher levels of actives, give $20 a month to charity and *still* save yourself $40 or so a month.
I also think the name is awful. Putting his initial in the selfless name as well as 'by Hyram' makes it all about him, which is fine, its his collab, butit's just not in line with the idea of selflessness!
The shots of smiling black kids whose lives he's going to improve, (with your money,) is also a bit iffy after his whole rant about white saviorism.
So true
I havent watched his videos properly in the last couple of weeks but I'm curious about the white saviour rant that you mentioned. What did he say
You just said everything I was thinking. The name is simply embarrassing, and the green washing and white saviourism of it all made me finally unsubscribe from his channel.
@@yagna6894 look up selfless by hyram's channel, second oldest video
@@yagna6894 watch 'I was a humanitarian and I regret it', that's better than any second-hand info
Regardless of the great message behind this line, the fact that the product is overpriced (even if half goes towards donation), most people will probably buy it as a one time purchase to support him but I don’t think sales will sustain in the long run. The market is already saturated with great products that are good, cheaper and also green friendly.
Also, I think ‘self less’ is not the message he is sending…he obvious cares about his share of the profit and overpriced the items.
@@tinasung3814 the fact that they hiked up all the prices instead of being willing to absorb any of the costs of more sustainable materials is really telling imo. Absolutely not selfless in the slightest
I bought two of the products, if it blows me away, I'll keep using them, and maybe I'll rebuy. But for the price, if it isn't great, I'm not rebuying.
Lol. Half. The figure quoted is 10% and that is not even garunteed. They cleverly use terms like "we are determined to give...."
Also, when talking about the donations they talk about projects that will deliver 60 community water projects that will provide clean water for 50 years, but Hyrams brand isn't doing that, that's the charities pledge, he will simply donate a sum *towards* it. It makes it sound as if Selfless will be providing those 60 water projects instead of just helping with a donation. Their donation may only be enough to pay 1 out of 60 of the water projects, or half of one!
The fact that even the message is washed out because The donation they make just means they can write that off for their taxes
Did Inkey List just become the Morphe of skin care? 😂
They partnering with influencer like Hyram and calling influencer as a skin expert, yikes
No, not at all. Besides this Hyram brand crap, The Inkey List has fantastic products.
@@chandracox6814 i actually like the Inkey list and use some of their products. ngl, i even bought the collab Hyram did coz the bag was cute and the products in it are mostly what i use from the brand. but i am not sure with this “powered by inkey list” thing.
The three things about the inkylist I have is 1. Every dermatologist/ skin specialist on Utube is promoting or reviewing these products 2. U can't buy them anyway as they are not in stock. 3. U have no idea how much active ingredients in their products so really how do you know what U r buying? Now Hyram products have these issues too.
@@chandracox6814 but didn't Morphe used to have good products? If I'm not mistake, the quality was good, wasn't? The problem started with the influencers, right? Or they lost the quality (I never had the money to buy it, so I never got to test it).
if hyram really care for the environment, his product should be in larger size
At the first place he sould not have created a new skincare line. We already have lots of skincare products nd much more affordable.
@@dailyanimalshortsplanet_27 exactly
He said he made the package size because larger bottles are too big so don't end up getting recycled at the plant
@@kittykat5056 he is hypocrite. He bushing all brands for expensive but when it comes to him, it's affordable for teenage. And Larger battle much more sustainable then smaller battle. If you hv big battle you don't need to buy every 1 months or weeks... Smaller battles is much more wasted thn a bigger one.
@@laurac9453 apparently recycling centers have these nets that catch larger objects which they can't recycle and send them to landfill. So he sized the packaging to fit through these nets and maximize the chance that the tube is recycled
I can't tell you how ✨OVER IT ✨ I am with new skincare brands. Especially green washy influencer brands. The MOST important thing we can do is REDUCE. Recycling has become a joke. I can't support the creation of new brands while the market is incredibly saturated.
It is super oversaturated. I think the bubble will burst just like with makeup. I hope people can see through this stuff... People don't need 10 steps in their skincare routine in tiny plastic bottles.
@@shhhentient i’d rather buy korean skin care products they’re much more cheaper, effective and trust worthy
@@eldricke i agree. Some ppl say that the ingredients he uses for the products are innovative when you can just get them from korean skincare brands that have been using them for so long and at a much cheaper price.
Especially in his video reviewing Jlos brand he stated that the market was saturated with celebrity brands. And then brings out his own line contributing to more product waste
well I stopped buying other brands to buy his. And none of the other brans i used to buy did any of the charity towards top rated charities certified by 3rd parties like his or offset carbon... SOOO :D
Nothing wrong with a new brand coming and setting the bar higher :)
“Selfless” is such a strange name… it’s not like he doesn’t benefit from selling it.
Fun fact, he used the channel he said it was going to be used for charity and other stuff I can't remember. He used that channel to promote those products... Kinda shady
Yeah he's profiting off of white guilt. Saying it's for a good cause and it will help people with stock images of third world countries. It's so gross
maybe selfless not as in "verb" but rather a message.
@@itsjustme684 what?
@@acewingate6993 think
I hated the ad gave me mayhor white savior vibes. Like look at at these africsn children, help them by buying this. And most plant a tree programs destroy ecosystems with mono-species forests that are dead. Like the forest cant support the variety of animals that live there. Also trees are usually harvested yrs down the line
It’s never good enough 🤦🏻♂️
I understand that he’s donating to charity with these products, but the products themselves are creating waste themselves like he’s made videos on zero-waste skincare and how rare it is. Why couldn’t he have made his products low-waste? He could have put recycling information on the box as so many people will end up disposing it incorrectly.
Also this line very much reminds me of Bubble
I’m actually an ambassador for bubble, I’m kind of considering trying these products as well to compare. But if you’re interested in purchasing from Bubble you can use code ASHBUBBLE for 10% off it really helps me out!
his products are low-waste, everything is recyclable and on the box there is recycling instructions
bro you definitely not understand and sure you haven't bought it yet but you have the audacity to backslash it regarding its recycling processes. It already has everything you need to know on the packaging.
I reuse the dropper bottles for a lot of different stuff like it it’s a perfect amount or rise water for my hair and small vases, fairy lights and a lot of other stuff. I can’t for the life of me buy throw outs if I can help it. And I can, because there’s plenty products that are reusable.
Also, larger packing
How sustainable can it be if I have to buy more every month? With transport and extra packaging
I don't like how he is always preaching how buying these product will SAVE the world?
He could be giving back and doing something good, but he is still doing more damage than good by creating mini product...playing the saving the world card is literal brainwasing
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Jumped straight to the comments...didn't expect anything less than an honest perspective of this. I got bad vibes with the initial promo...like there are zero details about actives, how much goes towards these green good causes, like what is this? lmao I didn't watch Hyram but I would be quite disappointed if Cassandra, or Dr. Dray etc dropped something so off brand like this. The mark was heavily missed.
He did talk a lot about the actives and the amount that goes towards charity though. And caring about environment is not off brand for Hyram for sure.
It felt kinda fake and cheesy.
Genuine question.
How is this line going to help fight climate change? Apart from the donations that are being made to those NPOs?
Edit: I added "fight".
Nobody knows because Hyram refuses to be transparent and the website is very inconsistent. I'm certain $0.5 from some products goes to the thirst project but other than that we don't really have numbers. They're claimed their "ambition" is to donate 10% of their profits but that's textbook corporate speech for "we want to hike up our prices and benefit from green marketing without sacrificing any of our yacht money". If they actually had an intention of donating that much, they'd have said they *will*.
It's not. It's a marketing tactic.
It's manipulative marketing. He harps on about how you're supporting X social cause by buying his products. If I wanted to support a cause, I'd donate my time or money directly to that, not some product. He's appealing to pathos of people wanting to be virtuous/generous by telling them they can only do that by using his expensive products.
It explains it on their website - they’re donating to certain organizations that help fight these social issues.
@@meganz020 ok, but which one? For how long? How they are going help? For instance, they say that they want to help with water treatment, but, until foreign companies decided to do a lobby and buy the public ones (not to mention a lot of money from corruption), we had water in good condition (the problem was with distribution), better than USA for exemple. But they got sold, and the price sky rocket, and now people can't pay. So are they helping us taking back our water, or are they financial helping the people who steal from us? Just saying that they're helping without saying how is suspicious (and if they never ending helping, they can say that it was the intention, but, you know, crises of some kind).
It’s not affordable for how much you actually get. People should just stick to the original inky list products
chileeee i was just thinking that finna take back the cleanser and get two inkey list products for one instead 😂
I was so hyped for this and yeah major let down
@@McKenzieCoe What did you find disappointing? I was thinking of getting it but its so pricey for just a small amount
Far too expensive for majority of people. It's another niche brand, will change nothing.
I may try out the cleanser. Nothing else has me super excited at the price point
His fans will still purchase so sadly it won’t be a loss for him.
is it just me or is there an annoying buzzing in the background of this video? like the WHOLE video?
The criticism that I have read and wholly agree with is saying this whole thing is very much white knighting. Even the name, I have some feelings about. Hyram, who already is a white person living in Hawaii, made some very interesting (uncomfortable) choices with the b role in his ad videos. Additionally, from what I know, recycling bioplastics is *incredibly* difficult and rare, often you need to send it to a very specific facilty. Maybe he found some bioplastic I don't know, but yeah. It would have been nice to see literally any certifications behind this - certified zero waste facilty, b corp, certified fair trade, ANYTHING to back up his very, very big claims. 😕 even just being part of 1% for the planet! That would automatically provide transparency with actual proof, as opposed to all of his big claims of donating to 'save the planet'. Overall, I wouldn't buy it if it wasn't from Hyram, therefore, I am not buying it. Also, the inkey list has horrible transparency and no info on sustainability that I can find anywhere. He could have partnered with a truly sustainable company, like Plaine products. But did this instead, and I am not impressed sadly.
This should be a top comment! 👏
@@GS-xs3we Hey! I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying :) I have no issue with immigration, but Hawaii is a specific issue on it's own. I would encourage you to look into this a bit and read some articles written by indigenous Hawaiian people! In recent years, a massive influx in rich, white people moving to the islands have caused dramatic price increases and the native people there are being forced out of their homes because of it. Additionally, there are issues with overpopulation, with excess tourism and development harming the wildlife/natural landscape, etc. Covid has made that worse as well. Here is a helpful article as a jumping off point! stabmag.com/news/priced-out-of-paradise-the-reality-of-north-shore-gentrification/
@@miranda266 Ok, if these people are making an active decision to potentially displace indigenous people and harm the environment I get what you're saying. How do you know all the rich people were white though?
@@GS-xs3we click the link and read the article.
Cetaphil, LRP, Vaseline, CeraVe, etc., if you’re watching, I would buy your cleansers and moisturizers (sunscreens too if possible?) in my own containers from tubs at the drug store as a zero-waste option. No need for gimmicky charitable donations etc. I just want basic zero-packaging, carbon neutral products.
Do you understand carbon neutral?
That would be difficult bc the products are designed for certain packages, putting it into other packaging could cause some issues w the product
@@kyonaharris8239 you could refill a small amount so it doesn’t actually get a chance to go bad I guess
I have bought from a company called Au natural from NZ. You can buy a recyclable aluminium bottle full with product and then you get bio degradable pouches with the products to refill. Or you can just buy the refill pouches. It's a great idea and the few products I've used are lovely for the skin. 🌻
I want more "normal" products with low waste options in general. Aluminum anti perspirant, normal lotion, fluoride toothpaste, etc. Waiting for big companies to catch on.
You. Went. IN. And I respect you so f*cking much because of it.
She came really close. She should have just dropped it flat out. Overpriced, green washing, all branding.
Difficult packaging is not friendly to those with disabilities. Just saying. 😔
It’s also definitely not sustainable
THIIIIISSSSSSS
Agree!!
Yes I need a pump!
I dont like this product but it is his first try u cant expect the best. In terms of ingredients there are not bad but in the industry noone is thoughtful much when it comes to disabilities.
So in a nutshell, another hyped skinfluencer came out with his own skin line that does the same basic thing every other skin care line does....just smaller. These youtubers need to stop.
Not going to purchase this for a few reasons, specifically Hyram’s ongoing issue with fragrance and essential oils as he rips brands for adding them in their products yet he added them in his. The whole selfless theme gives me creepy vibes simply because he is speaking as if he is giving so much to charity yet it is only 10% and the Ad that is provided for this brand have a theme of white savior. In addition, he complains so much about over pricing and small packaging, yet he is doing the same. I would respect him more if he was not so much of a hypocrite. I saw his other TH-cam Friends rave about his products and never mention these flaws. I am glad you at lease attempt to provide an honest review.
Not sure where you are getting your info re: fragrance and essential oils in his products. There definitely aren’t any. I actually purchased the whole line to try, and have studied the ingredients list, and the products are definitely essential oil and fragrance free. There are moisturizing oils, but no fragrant oils.
@@rebeccamartinez5203 i think the plant extracts he uses are indeed fragrant, but very light and non-irritating for the most part
@@timc3509 That makes sense, but that is very different. Using effective ingredients that happen to be mildly natural fragrant is definitely not the same as adding fragrance or essential oils. I am extremely sensitive to scent or fragrance and his products don't bother me at all.
Genuine question: what percentage did you expect to be donated? I mean there are plenty of employees behind his products that have to get their salary so I‘m wondering what would‘ve been okay in this case- also to be taken into consideration: his products are not that pricey imo when taking into account that he donates a percentage to two causes and considering that his products are easy to recycle and have good ingredients- wishing you a great day!
Wait, there is no fragrance or essential oils in his products though?
This is the first honest review I have seen yet. Even though it seems like you and hyram may be friends or good aqquantiances, there doesn't seem to be any bias.
Though I won't be purchasing this and this launch made me really dislike hyram. His promotions for this reminded me of those " non profit" companies guilt trip you into donating. The way he kept mentioning about how your purchase goes towards water and etc. He never mentions how much of the proceeds actually go towards that though. Idk it just seems very gimmicky to me I guess.
Yes - very disappointing - it’s put me off Hyram.
Yes it was so disgusting. It reeks of white saviorism
@@CyclingUrchin After he decryed white saviorism and made that video "repenting" of his old misson trips it seemed a bit disingenuous.
@@littleboots9800 ikr!! It's clear he knows how wrong this is but money > values I guess
It's all so expensive too, not affordable whatsoever
I have major respect for you for several reasons. I love how transparent you are while remaining thoughtful to all living beings around you. I admire your choice in not using a skin filter. I imagine at times…it feels desirable but you make an active stance to not feed into it. If you ever do use filters or makeup, it’s stated. You never let us wonder about integrity. Your honesty about sponsorships and overall thoughts on products are intentionally out in the open. Your love for helping others, including animals and the planet is a key element to your character not just your online presence and we see that. Thank you for not being shady and caring so deeply. I hope you know that your sensitivity and thoroughness is celebrated. Keep creating from the heart. ❤️✨
She sometimes gets so much shit for being honest or upfront. People want everything to be sugar-coated. She was being criticized in a dr grays video for posting a positive comment. People think if you dont agree about someone's choices you're bad.
@@Stephaniacat agreed
Out of all the hypocrisy in this brand, calling it "selfless" is probably the most irritating. If he were being selfless, he would use his influence to campaign for already existing, larger brands to become more sustainable. He'd advocate for people to use simple, affordable products and donate the money they save to these kinds of causes. Instead he gets a tax break on unnecessarily expensive products, and gets praise for doing things other brands have been doing for years. One more brand donating 10% of their profits (IF they follow through on that "ambition") and using sugar cane plastic is not going to change the industry. But he sure looks good for making such a big deal out of it.
The most hypocrite thing is to use the TH-cam channel he was going to use for non profit stuff.... Use it to promote a brand he's going to profit...
@@luisalejandropenagarcia9601 that too! The hypocrisy never ends.
I think the ethical sourcing is good though. Living in a 3rd world country, it makes me happy when brands try to make sure the raw materials they use are being sourced without child labour and exploitation
@@laurac9453 you’re not the only one. I was thinking this same thing. Put your money where your mouth is and prove what you say. If my corner coffee shop can get fair trade certified I think he could’ve as well. Although if he just says he is that’s enough for his stans. The problem is he doesn’t have to do any of these things. The people buying this brand are buying it no matter what it is. It’s kind of creepy in the comments on his videos right now.
@@madhusree1472 like commenters said, we just have to take his word for that. As far as we know, he could be doing exactly what every other company does. Plus, we don't know what his definition of "ethical" is. Maybe to him it's ethical, but to the people and animals being exploited it isn't. There's a lot of talk for very little action with this brand.
0:00 Intro
1:55 Centella and Green Tea Cleanser
3:55 Serums!
4:03 Mandelic Acid and Rice Bran Serum
6:16 Retinol and Rainbow Algae Serum
11:04 Salicylic Acid and Sea Kelp Serum
13:26 Niacinamide and Maracuja Moisturizer
15:39 The collection as a whole, pros of the collection
18:10 Criticisms
20:05 Target demographic
22:05 Addressing controversy
23:33 Skin after product use
24:33 "So, what does this mean for you?"/Final thoughts
Also, if anyone can recommend a good moisturizer for oily skin, lmk plz 👀❤️
@@christinemorey6939 iUnik Centella Gel Cream is amazing and so affordable!
“Selfless by Hyram” is so cringey. Here’s some alternatives that I feel better for the vibe of the whole thing:
Narcissistic by Hyram
White Saviour Complex by Hyram
Charity is a Tax Write Off by Hyram
Charity Doesn’t Fix Broken Systems by Hyram, and
Shameless Cash Grab by Hyram
Yeah, no thanks. I actually prefer when capitalist companies don’t try to make themselves seem “selfless”, but are honest about the fact that they’re there to make money. That is the entire point, and charity washing doesn’t make me feel better, it just makes me annoyed.
That's pretty good 😂
@@VK-uh5jz now that is just mean, but he does kind of have white savior complex
I like "Pretentious by Hyram". I cannot claim it as my own idea. I read it in the comments of one of his cringe product reveal videos.
Debbie McCune haha that's pretty accurate, too.
@@debbiemccune1952 I can’t believe I forgot that one! It should definitely be added to the list!
I think I hate this so much because I’m usually someone seen as a “charity case”, so the whole saviour complex thing (and upping themselves for helping out the poor unfortunates!) just really, really irritates me.
If he’d just been like “this is my new skincare line, I think the ingredients are good, give it a try”, I wouldn’t be bothered at all. But calling himself “selfless” for making a skincare line he’ll likely make beaucoup bucks from? Nah. It just pisses me off.
Love your honest review. There’s a annoying buzzing sound through the video.
I just noticed that half way through
Finally, a comment about that! I was scared that it was my imagination
lmao i thought i fucked up my phone again
Yes!! I noticed it too!! I thought it was my fan making the noise, but then I paused the video and it stopped. It was so distracting!!
Didn't notice until I read this comment! 💀
Not in my wish list and probably never gonna, but I was really expecting your review on it.
Ps: God to know that I’m not the only one who thinks that is soo little products for theses prices. This is everything, except eco friendly.
I really wish he had started his own e-commerce site instead of yet another skin care line. I’m sure that is t where the big money is but I would have loved a one stop shop for hyram approved products.
That would've been a good idea actual!
This would have been a perfect idea and he would have still made loads of money. I ran a skincare forum that was sponsored (they paid for the forum software/maintenance) by a skincare reseller. Depending on the brand, the mark up was on average 50-75%. That is just the wholesale to retail mark-up. The manufacturer/formulator/etc. are still making more that that. It is mind boggling how cheap it actually is to produce most skincare products.
THIS 👏👏👏
Sooooo long story short, it is an overpriced product that an influencer slapped his name on. Good to know.
if this is targeted to beginners in their teens and early twenties who don't know a lot about skincare and the science behind it, the problem still is the high price point that fails to target this audience. Especially if people don't know a lot about certain ingredients, they won't be willing to pay 20 to 30$ for just one product. Let alone people in this age range don't have that money to spend freely.
This is what Hyram has been working towards for years. It was never about being honest or helping people, it was about obtaining an audience and creating his own line to make as much money as possible. There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but I cannot stand when influencers pretend to care about the environment or others when all they really care about are the numbers in their bank account.
Don’t get me started on the name. Are you kidding me? What is Selfless about this? Are you giving up all of your profits to help others? No. Are you giving the product away for free to people who need it? No. It’s not selfless. It’s the opposite.
If he really wants to use selfless name so bad it would have been wayy better if he instead created some kind of product/bundles and named it selfless edition where 100% of the profit went to charity. That way there is no bullshit and less complicated. I feel like the way SBM brand is the way it is now bc it's complicated to manage a brand AND trying to make it sustainable human and nature resources (which is why many brands just don't do that). They had to cut a lot of corner and the result is well, a mess. Hyram is a good person, I believe he is still, but too ambitious and by the end he forgot what he was originally aiming for.
But his fans actually ask him to make a line too. So both sides honestly. Like buying to support him, yes. But to pay that much for his name, no. 😂 me stick with TO and IKList. If I have more money, I could invest in Skinceutical or something like that. Not a brand from influencers.
You sound like a very bitter person
@@ceciliaj3148 Truth is bitter, lol
@@Kxehjnigrvhtjhejiijjjoowjjjyhc except this is not the truth. People are exaggerating so much. He has done nothing wrong. People just want to have a person to hate on.
Why is no one talking about the audio, there's this horrible static hiss. I'm 90 seconds in, listening with headphones, and I don't think I can watch the rest. Which is disappointing, cause it sounded like this was gonna be a legit honest review.
Omg Yes!! I seriously thought there was something wrong with my headphones.
Lol didn't notice it til you pointed it out
I swear! It is so hard to watch this video!
Thanks noticed it right away too
the same old question, why sustainability has to be 100% more expensive compare to The Inkey list product, in Australia the cheapest product is $33 (cleanser), the highest is $48 (retinol), if this is for his audience then it's 4 white kids who got money.
Exactly, skincare in Aus prices are so expensive. That being said I’d rather pay an extra $30 for a retinol product that actually works lol
@@aleksap5459 unfortunately 0.2% retinol is soooo mild that i highly doubt it will work. Not to mention that its encapsulated and the amt which is converted is likely even more negligibles
@@llamaliammm Yeah exactly, I'd rather pay more for an actual potent concentration. Encapsulated retinol in this serum will be so useless lmao, not impressed with Hyram over this tbh
In Australia I can get a tube of differin gel with no prescription for $27, that gives me enough left iver to buy a nice soothing or brightening serum to use alongside it for the price of just his retinol serum.
Wow that’s expensive! 😥
How about the ordinary? Do you guys get it there? And if yes are they expensive as well?
I think that he has passed the cost of the donations onto the consumer, hence the price of the products. Which is disappointing and defeats the purpose of supporting the brand. I already donate to charities and buy lots of my products locally so don't see how purchasing a product from the other side of the world is helping the environment.. it would be more revolutionary if he and the company bared the cost of the donations and kept the consumer cost minimal. In my opinion anyway
Way over priced. And other companies already give to multiple charities get your facts straight. You can't say other companies need to step it up when they already do they just don't go on TH-cam and act like there the only ones
This brand is a good candidate for a video “The truth nobody will tell you about Selfless by Hyram”. And join the legends of the series like Drunk Elephant, Sunday Riley, Mario Badescu, etc. Greenwashing, selfishness, tax exemptions disguised as donations to charities...
Omg yes
FINALLY an honest review that actually addressed some of the problems with the brand. One cannot simply review the products and ignore the numerous issues surrounding. They are inextricably linked. Nor can one reasonably claim to have seen significant improvements in a week. One of my favorite SkinTubers claimed the retinol made his skin better in under a week. That’s not even possible. He also failed to comment on even a single problem with the brand. It was so disheartening. I almost unsubscribe.
I respect this review from you. I honestly expected that you’d be the only major SkinTuber to address this brand in an honest, ethical way. There are a number of issues you didn’t address. But honestly, that might’ve been crossing into burning bridges territory. So I understand why you didn’t comment on those things. THANK YOU 🙏🏻 (also, thank you for not wearing makeup & using a filter while trying to sell me a skincare product…SUSS 🤨)
Edit- if it wasn’t clear, I absolutely will not be buying this brand. If I hadn’t already unsubscribed from Hyram, I certainly would’ve after this launch.
Who is that male youtuber? Even a tretinoin could not make your skin flawless in under a week
@@dailyanimalshortsplanet_27 i would also like to know
I would like to know which problems with the brand (which would be in the burning bridges territory) are you talking about?
@@LuciKaede Read all the comments in response to this review alone. You will have a list of 10 issues with this brand.
Hyram is really out there acting like starting a new skincare brand is selfless and sustainable 🙄🤢
I honestly have never really followed him since he started calling himself a “specialist” when he has no qualifications or experience in skin care. Only dermatologists are “specialists” for skin. This is what happens when someone who uses google to get their research and form opinions tries to create a skincare line and the ingredients contradict him because he doesn’t understand formulations and compounding I guess lol.
His job title is skincare specialist lol
does everyone hear that annoying buzz/static in the back of the video? MY EARSSSS and head, ugh.......clicked as soon as i saw this, though, lmao, was like "let's see how brutal it really is"...i have yet to watch james' video, but i don't expect anything but love from him (note: i don't hate james, lolol, in fact he's my favorite "skinfluencer" and the only one whose videos i watch on a regular basis/every upload; it was the same with beauty within, but i've been lazy in regards to bothering with a bunch of different things lately, so i'm behind on their vids, still like them though!), just cuz he's friends or whatever with hyram, so...somewhat understandable, but i'll find out once i watch it, i suppose
Yep, I got the buzzing noise too! Made it through to the end but the noise was terrible
@@quantumwombat I'm soldier-ing through out of genuine interest to see how brutal she gets, but it definitely sucks 🥲 gonna pop an advil or 2 in a bit, lmfao
I know! I though something was wrong with my earpod! It sounds like a Cicada in your ear!
@@melissaoliver9072 WORSE!! cicadas are annoying, but this is just PAINFUL (I LITERALLY have a headache now...9 min left in the video)
Same! A few of her uploads the couple of weeks have had it.
That packaging is really inaccessible to people who struggle with grip strength or general motor skills in their hands.
........really.......🙄🙄🙄
the colours of the products are really mean to people who are sensitive to those colours....hey look I found something to be offended about too!
@@pokemontas8025 I suffer from tremors and reduced motor function on my hands and would be unable to use these products. It’s a real problem that real people have to deal with. It’s not a matter of being “mean.” It’s about regular everyday people being able to use it.
@@pokemontas8025 for a brand that claims to be soooooo socially conscious, and claims to be “made for everyone”, it seems like a pretty ableist oversight. Even for someone like me who’s mainly physically able, there’d be days where I couldn’t squeeze those tubes if my tendonitis was acting up. I hate to think how hard it would be to handle for someone with arthritis, or any disorder that affects grip strength or motor stability. Also, for that price, you’d think they’d consider a more effective dosing system.
Thanks for pointing this out. My brother (with special needs) will stop using it first day.
@@pokemontas8025 The way YOU got offended by someone just stating a fact. Lol!!
I won't be purchasing anything from this line, he contradicts himself so much that I can't trust him.
I feel like that is what happens when your channel grows too fast, his opinions and approaches didn't have a chance to develop with time and it ends up being messy, contradictory and rushed.
So true! That’s why I stopped watching and unsubscribed from his channel.
The face wash seemed promising
I disagree with your comments that lack of transparency is due to trade secrets. That is not an excuse. Sustainability without transparency is greenwashing. Especially not disclosing the donation amounts. If your advertisements are going to use a heavy amount of little black faces you need to be real specific what your products are actually doing to help those people.
They could make profit and still donate the money with less pricing that is what i am most disappointed with . I have been following Hyram literally from the day 1 and I am sad that he did the exact same thing he used to criticize.
shocking that the guy who talked about regretting his ~humanitarian~ white savior work appealed to white savior heart strings to market his product
i’ve been looking for this comment… unfortunately i don’t think many people have seen that video of his
Who would've thunk!
The definition "affordable" should always be coupled with the amount of product you get. Aaaaaanddddd Selfless is NOT affordable. It's in the medium to high price range. The cleanser is 20€ for 150ml, I can get the Soon Jung 5.5 cleanser, which is REALLY good and is 150ml as well, for 6€. So yeah, the intentions are good and all, but together with donating to charities and help the environment, the brand should allow almost everyone to purchase its products if it's branded as "affordable" by being a byproduct of The Inkey List.
Yes! I love the Soon Jung cleanser too. I live here in the Philippines, and sellers who get their products directly from South Korea would often sell lower than $6 on monthly online sales.
The prices of SBH seem similar to or a even bit cheaper than First Aid Beauty and Paula's Choice, neither of which people seem to have problems with. I think the issue here is that Hyram always emphasized that good skin care can be very affordable and his skin care line does not reflect that value.
Anyone else hear a buzzing sound in the audio for this video?
in my opinion Hyram really missed one huge problem in the beauty industry- testing on animals. he fights for the eco system but unlike cassandra he doesnt mention the cruelty at all. The way humans treat animals is a major issue in climate change as well. I would be soo happy if at least one of his products would focus on this issue and would donate to charities that fight for animal rights.
I mean yeah use your money to build a brand but don't sell it by saying it's not for your pocket and just for the benefit of the world. Business is a business, and its primary goal is profit. There's nothing selfless about a business.
I'm the odd one out, but I've never thought hyrem was amazing, in fact calling himself a skin specialist annoys me... He is a sales person for a brand. That doesn't give you the knowledge to be an expert.
This being so lack lustre really doesn't surprise me.
Now we see why he tirelessly is promoting the inkey list.😒 Although I would use any of the inkey lists products over these overpriced items. But this has me questioning why did the inkey list do this? As a quick cash grab with how popular hyram is as a face to sell product but also using the whole gen z cares about the environment so let's market the sustainable aspect towards them as well. Total irony and contradictory to what hyrams always preaching about on his channel🙄 I'm done with his channel completely.
No, you’re not the only one. I didn’t click with his videos from the get go
@@yasdnil_ right now every brand is taking advantage of the new generations it started with millennials. I have fallen for it too. And im realizing the past 5 years ive expended so much money without realizing it. Even the government in my country used the LGBT community to promote our city as gay friendly. Its actually friendly towards the community and made posters including all the community but it was only done because they realized lgbt community brings money to the city. It has its pros and cons.
Same, never thought he really knew all that much about skincare
Same here! I watched one or two of his videos and haven't been able to stand him since. His personality was so off putting to me, and his advice really wasn't anything groundbreaking.
half of the products have salicylic acid and niacinamide. It is literally better to buy a serum of those ingredients.
Thank you for the honest review! I am really happy for Hyram, but these products are not for me.
That being said, I think it is a bit of a copout to say "well this isn't perfect but nothing is perfect!" It really seems most concerns stem from a lot of these things being contrary to statements Hyram has made in the past. I doubt anyone expects it to be perfect, but I do worry about fans blindly going all in for these products, and I worry about the image created for these products.
Thanks for the review! I won’t purchase though, I dislike the white savior complex Hyram seems to be demonstrating, what rubbed me the wrong way was the use of “Maracuja” like it’s going to be empowering, it’s pretty much passion fruit, as a Latin American I’ve noticed American companies rarely ever empower our communities, but they market they do. And they benefit from using our languages to market things as exotic and interesting. The irony of using “selfless” as a brand name only highlights his arrogance. I also dislike the packaging, it’s definitely boring and very similar to the Coola packaging. The price point is too expensive for his audience as well, specially for such small products. I don’t like the fact that he has built his platform by criticising people, particularly women, a shadiness for using something that he dislikes, that I don’t enjoy. His Cerave secretive sponsorship, the fact that he rarely ever shows himself using the products he recommends. I won’t support Hyram. Thank you Cassandra for being honest with us.
This is written so well - completely agree. Thanks for sharing 😊
I don’t understand everyone hopping on the bandwagon saying “white saviour” if he were to do nothing at all people would be mad, but when he tries to make change it’s an issue? What are people supposed to do when nothing ever good enough?
@@David-zj1ji it’s the way he goes about it, the stock images of Africa in his commercials, the “ambition” to donate, the selfless title for the brand. I understand being frustrated that no matter what ones does we can never please everyone, but many many people are upset about this. One person’s intuition and analysis could be wrong but hundreds of people have similar thoughts about the brand and Hyram. So if you feel his efforts are good enough for you that’s okay, not everyone will think the same.
@@meganm7973 thank you so much!
I'm from Romania and even though I was extremely grateful that Hyram's skincare line was available to us so early through Sephora, it is so expensive that buying his entire skincare is almost equivalent to our minimum wage. I was so excited to buy his products and I expected them to be as affordable as Cerave, which is very cheap even in Romania, only to find out I have to save money for a month to be able to buy one of his products.
Hey you're not missing out on anything... His line is shady and ineffective...so you'd be better off not wasting your time and money on his line!
Hyram gives off major “if people have to tell you constantly how great they are, they’re probably not that great”
i like the inkey list, i dont care for hyram its basically an influencer cash grab
I'm not a Hyram hater or a fan but his his PR videos give "missionary" and "white savior" complex vibes. Coming from someone that works in development projects with international cooperation in developing countries (or so called third world countries), the interventions have to be so carefully prepared to make a proper impact and sadly, most of the times, donations from private companies do more harm that good for so many complex reasons... In reality this is just a manipulative marketing technique. I want to think he has good intentions but he's making it seem like his a savior and that by purchasing some of his products you are saving the earth while at the same time he's not even being transparent about the donations.
I’m just curious... could you further explain about how donations from companies cause more harm?
It's weird because he literally did a video about how he had done missionary work and had regretted it because his experience was that it disenfranchised the local workforce. I'm really not sure what's going on with him
@@raspberrybellini exactly
@@desi1448 donations are very often stolen by corrupt government officials to keep themselves wealthy & the extra funding goes to the oppression of their populace via military and/or purposeful mismanagement.
One of the first things I learned in social justice work is that even the best of intentions can be harmful/hurtful 😏
I am soooo relieved to see these comments. I tried commenting on one of Hyram’s video because I felt like the comment section there was just blindly in love with everything and saying that they’d buy every product just because it’s Hyram. I love all of you!
I’m so disappointed in the fact that he released a skincare line. If there’s one thing we and this earth doesn’t need is another bunch of plastic tubes :/ lot of white savior BS, waterfall promotional videos give me cringey 80s vibes, I’m surprised he didn’t choose “we are the one” as the main song :/ it’s just a selfish money grab trying to pretend to be better.
I loved the promo music though! Very Yanni ;)
@@liorajacob8094 ha I don’t know who that is but now I have to Google :)
Honestly, where the f*ck was the sunscreen ??? I know they take longer to develop, so postpone to launch. Idk how he can sell exfoliators and retinol without a SPF available too. Smh
I get upset when a product is 1oz and more than $20. I would buy these products if they had more to them.
Love Hyram but this isn’t it and calling the line “selfless” sounds pretentious and self absorbed. I really wanted to try the skincare line when he announced it but after seeing it I’m not as excited. I feel bad for feeling this way but I have to be honest 😢 will still support his content.(edit: I don’t like the packaging 😢)
I feel the exact same way!
@@starlight1818 I feel bad but it’s like come on Hyram
Overpriced range from an overrated creator. Meh 🤷🏼♀️
So true
So so true. Hes ridden his personality too far in my opinion, I already found it shady that he would often recommend products from companies he was working for without disclosing that he worked there but Hyram has absolutely no background or education to speak on skincare the way he does, and he absolutely doesn't have the qualifications to create his own line. He presents himself as a lot more of an expert than he really is and has an audience of millions of teens who don't know any better than to question his qualifications. I enjoyed his channel but this launch just confirms it to me, hes not who he appears to be in my humble opinion.
@@Thisiskoko104 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 the non-disclosed sponsors did it for me. I know that there is a lot of inside baseball when it comes too the business side of youtube, but the FTC have been super clear. We as the audience need to know the difference between an advert and a genuine opinion - otherwise how can we trust you? It actually makes perfect sense that he would make his line the way he did - because he has no knowledge/background and needed the expertise of The Inkey List, plus it’s one big advert for the brand a la CeraVe. But at least we KNOW we are being sold to this time….😏
@@EmmaTheCowie Thats also not even touching the issue that he continues to promote and encourage people to move to Hawaii, when indigenous Hawaiians are being priced out of and displaced from their own neighborhoods by wealthy white Americans moving there to make their Instagram more interesting. When asked why he moved there he said it was because "He wanted to move to the most culturally diverse place he could think of and that was Hawaii" when a very very fast google search will show you no place in Hawaii is even in the top 25 most diverse cities in the USA, would he not do even the most basic research of where is actually the most diverse if that is what he actually wanted? I dont buy it i honestly don't. I do think a lot of it is sincerely held but hes super super performative in a big way and I dont think he's even self aware of a lot of it TBH.
Cass, "packaging made of sugar cane, is it even recyclable?"
Me, "can I eat it?🤣"
Melo, if you can break it down and digest.
I am underwhelmed to say the least that his product line turned out this way. He always said “ingredients don’t lie b*tch” and yet these products don’t bring anything new. Active ingredients paired with “good” botanicals… he isn’t saving the earth here. He is just adding noise. Nothing essentially new. Disappointing. I guess from hereon his content will change too. Of course he’ll have to champion these products. Ugh. I’m not into this trend. I can also see contradictions from what he has been preaching based on how these products are formulated. Gosh, all about the money.
This brand is is an absolute yikes:
From the greenwashing to the overpriced sample sized bottles to the white saviour syndrome this whole thing seems to exude...
i was a really big fan of Hyram, but the way he went from an honest skincare reviewer that reccomended actual good affordable products to exactly the thing he preached against really turned me off...
White saviour syndrome....??
@@fbedntjwsf4959 it's a term used by racists, pay no mind.
@@pokemontas8025 honestly sick and tired of toxic American politics and their obsession with race
@@fbedntjwsf4959 Hey, it is a term used when a white person is doing something, not to actually help but to feel good about themself.
@@pokemontas8025 used for racists?
That’s great hyram is saving the world or whatevs but I haaaaate this so much lmao. Everything about it. The packaging? Big no. The ingredients? I’m just not crazy about. I can def do better with stuff I already have here. Let’s do all the charity & change stuff with better products 🥰 & he’s been giving me “savior vibes” lately anyway 😭😂
Cass. I love you. Thank you for your honest review ❤️
How the fuck do you save the world by creating more consumerism and more waste? Hyram is gross.
Maracujá is literally passion fruit in Brazilian Portuguese (indigenous brazillian word, tupi-guarani)
The pronunciation of the "j" is not like in Spanish...
In Spanish we say Maracuyá so we don’t say the jota (j) but the softer sound instead
Right!? Like ugh that bothered me so much it’s literally just passion fruit but he’s sticking with the foreign name to make it sound interesting and exotic. So opportunistic.
@@danielaaguilar8897 it's not that deep
Passion fruit (lat. forma edulis) and maracuja (lat. forma flavicarpa) are not the same thing. They come from the same botanical family but are different fruits.
@@kfkkfk7995 it is, it's part of marketing
The audacity of launching a skin care brand and then advocate for a safe enviroment. If you care about nature, why putting out there another products? He is all about the coin people
The caucasity , this is what it is.
A bit off topic but how do all these TH-camrs test a product for one week and come back with all these opinions on the performance of the products? Lmao it’s so funny to me. They all do this meanwhile they preach consistency in using products
The price is higher cuz they donate it
You give them your money and they donate your money using that company named and BOOM they got To pay LESS tax because the donation 💀💀💀💀💀
And cuz of that they earn more profits
This is so disgusting
Nice tax write off for them
It is very expensive for what it is and the green washing is incredible
It's only green washing if it's not actually helping the environment as is claimed. He's said the impact is fully traceable so we'll be able to analyse in full how much this has helped in about a year. We'll see if it lives up to the claim
Why is there a buzzing sound like a bee or smthng 💀
Every k-beauty skincare that I use are at least $5-10 more affordable than every single product from this line. Pretty disappointed, but if you want to support him and can afford to do so, go for it and let me know how it goes for you. I'll stick to my hefty rice and beta-glucan tubes 😂
@@wen3066 oooo yea thats the one 👌. I also use the Cosrx nourishing rice overnight mask which is actually a really nice cream moisturizer (don't let the name fool you lol).
@@wen3066 Why tf does he needs any support? He's rolling in tons of money anyway and one can directly contribute to charity rather than go through this ridiculousness.
He could’ve just came out with a normal skincare line without all this “selfless”, “green washing” overly pretentious mission statement. I’ve always thought he tried way too hard to fit into the skincare community. His content was hard to follow because he is a hypocrite. It’s just sad that people like that have millions of followers- I wish I can understand what the subscribers see in him.
Maybe being gay is cool. I don't know what else. I found him like a scam
@@fathimafarahna2633 what does his sexuality have to do with this?