Harry Potter Theory: Slughorn's Darkest Secret
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- Harry spends a good portion of the Half Blood Prince trying to retrieve one of Slughorn’s memories, but what other secrets is he hiding? We think we have discovered an even greater secret of the potions master!
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Horace Slughorn is best Slughorn...no, wait...
Or he simply considered love-potion the most dangerous amongst the four potions, because it is basically the magic equivalent of a rape-drug.
Even worse, really. Date-rape drugs are known to make the person more suggestive and submissive, whereas love potion goes beyond that and gives the person an irresistible lust toward the person.
Desdemona, I disagree. I've heard so many rape victims say that they would have rather died as opposed to living with the trauma it cased them. Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. The worst things are the horrors that you carry with you for the rest of your life.
Anubis2705 #NoContext
Rape victims flock to you like little birds & whisper sweet nothings in your ear? That's so nice. You have extensive connections.
Then why havent they killed themselves? They do want to live. Danger means deadly..........
slughorn doesnt think people taking advantage of each other with love potion is the worst thing in the world
my comment was short, but ur so bad at this you find an opportunity to take statements out of the air! it shouldnt be so hard for you to interpret so few words
I didnt say death is the worst experience, genius. I said u clowns think rape is. but not me, im not a feminine fool. Oh memories hurt more than 1000 daggers that would pierce you but keep you alive forever? you precious literary child...
Oh an honorable death for Jesus... Yawn. Jamahl can be my honored guest
Merope didn't attend Hogwarts, but he may have still met the Gaunt family through his weird wizard-collecting.
Slughorn:
This wizard Mcclagan mine!
This Potter wizard?
Now also definitely mine!
I have to agree I kinda feel like he coulda went to see if any of the slytherin family was still alive
I WOULD assume she went and got sorted in another house and went home
@@AStylz28 lol, if she were sorted into Gryffindor or Hufflepuff she probably wouldve been disowned, and I doubt she wouldve been in Ravenclaw. Besides her lineage I think she still could've been in Slytherin by her ambition. Even though she loved Tom Riddle Sr, he didnt love her, so I think when she kept giving him a love potion for a freaking long time to keep him hers counts as ambitious.
@@Servingourstories see thats why i think she was pulled out of school because at the end of the day they probably preferred her to be a squib instead of an Gryffindor. Maybe she got sorted and slughorn saved her by promising to home school her. Slughorn would definitely find her even more interesting to know a decedent of slytherin got sorted into gryffindor.
'See's a room on fire'
Gryffindor: 'rushes in without thinking to save whoever or whatever is in there.'
Slytherin: 'finds a fire extinguisher and tells someone what's happening before going in.'
I feel this sums up the difference given by Slughorns description.
Slytherin: There's a fire in that building, where is the extinguisher!!!????
Hufflepuff: (from inside the building) Someone help!!!
Gryffindor: OMG I'm going in to save them.
Ravenclaw:....... -____- Aguamenti
Most likely the consquences are:
Gryffindor: Getting badly burnt while rescuing everyone and spending the next weeks in the infirmary.
Slytherin: Not being able to save everyone but walking out unscathed and smug.
@@yeetchicken420 Hahahaha! In a nutshell!
@@maryjoyspohrer256
SLytherin: "Yay someone is burning alive" *continuous cheering* "we clove being evil"
Dan Slash :(
I always assumed Slughorn just meant that it was a glorified date-rape drug, but there's that idea too.
BWAHAHAHA
I thought it was because you can slip someone a love potion and they would do anything for you up to and including dark magic, torture suicide and murder. Basically like the imperius curse you can control the other person
Well you're just a lovely person no aren't ya *nervous laughter*
It's kinda ironic how the Founders had a better grasp of consent than literally everyone in the Harry Potter books that Harry came into contact with. Boy tries to enter girls' dorms? Gets ejected down a slide. However, Lockheart suggested that students ask Snape to help brew "love potions", the Twins sold them in bulk, and Molly Weasley bragged about making SEVERAL as a student. (Also, all the characters were kinda horrible to Fleur simply because she was pretty? Like...they legit sexually harassed her.) And...yeah. Merope using that thing as a daterape drug gets overlooked too often...sorta like the Mauraders' sadistic torment of other students (not just Severus)?
Anonymous Fellow : Quite true. I never noticed that bit about the founders, but honestly I did not care for Merope's actions, especially considering her past. The way she treated Tom Riddle Sr. leads me to think much of her choices regarding her love for him involved control because of how her father treated her. She was not an overwhelmingly good person and allowed past indignities to affect and change how she handled her relationships, which to me only emphasizes the danger of Amortentia.
Slughorn's motto: Pokémon, gotta catch 'em all :-D
Underrated comment
Why is this so underrated
Too funny!!!
😩💀💀
That's slughorns motto in a nutshell
First, it's pretty clear that Voldy's mother was not 'bad' at magic but she was abused and ridiculed which aligns up with what we know about magic and mental health from the books and Fantastic Beasts. I think its just the simple horror of being able to force anyone into doing your bidding as effectively (and more easily) as the imperious curse
Merope Gaunt, died young, believed to be a Squib, abused by her family for lack of magical ability...
Wait... Wait a second... WAIT A SECOND
I think Merope was an obscurial!!!
Think about it. Merope was thought to be a Squib by her father. However, in the memory Dumbledore shows to Harry, she is able to preform magic with her wand, though not with control or with the desired intent. It should be noted that Credence, the only well-documented obscurial, was also thought to be a Squib by Graves/Grindlewald. She was tortured and constantly put down by her father and brother, just as Credence was by his "mother". She died at a young age, but a very old age for an obscurial, so this part is a stretch, but not overly much, as Credence (and possibly Ariana Dumbledore as well) lived well past the perceived limit of an obscurial's lifespan, and he is the only really well-documented obscurial we have.
Not to mention the child Merope brought into the world. How could a young orphan, raised by Muggles, and a half-Muggle himself, possibly grow to be the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time? Sure, he is the heir of Salazar Slytherin, but only half, and there is no other heir of Slytherin (to my knowledge) that has ever come close to matching their ancestor's power, when Voldemort himself surpassed that power. How could he possibly have done it? Unless his mother passed on to him the dark power of the obscurus that was growing within her just as he was. Did Voldemort tap into the obscurus's power before he was even born? I would say yes. I would say this is the secret to Voldemort's power, and how he was able to mark himself as the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time, by mastering the unknown power of the darkest and most powerful creature in the Wizarding World.
Someone get some Ravenclaws over here to review this. I'd also love it if this could be seen by those Slytherins up above the towel, or even made into a video ;) Great video guys, love the theory (even if it probably wouldn't work with mine) and keep it up!
Nate TSO, I'm a Ravenclaw and I think this is the best HP theory I have ever heard! mind= blown! Go you!
Nate TSO Ravenclaw here; checks out. I'd like to discuss this more. I'll let you into the common room and we can discuss it near the window. Such a great view.
Nate TSO Cole Handelong;Ravenclaw. One thing to note she does eventually learn to control her magic. So a slight pin hole in the theory but otherwise well constructed ,and very plausible.
Nate TSO Anothwr Ravenclaw here! I agree that this is a very interesting and highly plausible theory. Let's all meet in the Ravenclaw common room to discuss. I'll make chocolate chip cookies!
I would love to join you in the common room, and the cookies sound delicious. I just hope your head of house will be ok with a Hufflepuff going in there ;)
Also, I hope you can help me work on my theories about Dumbledore's infinitely powerful patronus and boggart animagi. See you soon.
7:16- No, Phineas Nigellus said that. At least in the books, which are the more "real" source.
JL C your right
JL C YEP! I scrolled through the comments because I was going to post this if someone else didn't already. Book 5, Phineas says this when Harry is trying to leave Grimould Place and he still believes he is somehow the snake that is attacking everyone. Phineas believes Harry is leaving to save himself but then realizes Harry's intentions are 'noble.' Somehow the quote must be incorrectly attributed to Old Sluggy somewhere on the net.
JL C Thank you! Somebody else noticed!
Rebecca K Same
e x a c t l y
Slughorn: exaggerates for dramatic effect
Brothers: what in his past was he referring to? And how is Voldemort involved??
Tom Riddle was conceived by a couple that was brought together by a love potion, while Tom's father was still under the effects of it, which resulted in Tom being... the way he was.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I thought it was implied that Merope Gaunt was actually a fairly capable witch, but her father and brother just terrified her so much that her fear around them was stronger than her magic (I had teachers in school whose classes I nearly failed because they terrified me, despite the fact that I normally did well in those classes)
Like Neville and potions...
Clare Nicke exactly.
Raye J Dumbledore makes exactly that point to Harry, when Harry questioned how she snared Tom Riddle Sr.
Scottish Chemist yeah, that's what I thought
Dumbledore said that once the other Gaunts had gone she was able to use magic well.
Also, tangentally related, it's obvious why the love potion is the most dangerous potion: It's basically date rape in a bottle. When you first brought it up, I thought Slugghorn's secret was going to be that he had experienced something like that first hand.
He date-raped Bellatrix and now he is on the run from death eaters? :D
Lmao, i'd love to see that happen 😂😂
date rape in a bottle?, that sonds like mixing champange with lobster and drug store alcohol.
Like Voldemort’s mother did
Same! I thought that someone used it on him, and that he was the father of Voldemort or something freaky.
“Ron’s fairly harmless use of the potion”
He definitely did not get poisoned by the mead that day or anything...
But, as you just said, that was poisoned mead. Love potion didn't harm him. Poison almost did.
Yes, but it wasn't the Love Potion itself and he would have been fine except that the mead was poisoned.
Merope wasn't the last heir of Slytherin. She had a brother who lived long enough to get blamed for the death of the Riddles. Also, isn't love potion pretty readily available? I mean Fred and George legally sell it in Diagon Alley so couldn't Merope easily have gone to Knockturn Alley and find a shady potions dealer for it?
Oops, there's a hole there. Before George and Fred, there wasn't anyone selling love potions, only the ingredients.
We don't know that for sure but even then, there are different variants of love potion. For instance, Molly Weasly brewed one when she was at school and she's never said to be a potions master. Even if Merope is bad at magic, for all we know, she could have had the know-how to make a rudimentary love potion.
xanxia I got the impression there are multiple variations of love potion creating various levels of effect, and the one Fred and George sell is a watered down version
Bloody love Harry Potter theories 👌
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I used to hate when they tried to do Harry Potter stuff but I have LOVED the last few theories!!
“ you can’t help anyone if you’re dead”
Basic thoughts of a slytherin.
Edit: I’m really bad at spelling and grammar.
You're.
slytherin*
Hey you fixed it :) thats all that matters !
More like... you can't help yourself if you're dead.
@@volleyballDave well yes but that’s covered in the “anyone”
Ok but @ everyone pointing out that the Gaunt kids never went to school, to me this only strengthens the basis of his theory. She didn't go to school so there is no way in hell she could brew that by herself buuut she may have heard about the amazingly talented student that just graduated and was on his way to becoming the youngest potions master..... she totally could have found him and said who she was and that she needed help. Now idk what exactly a potions master does outside teaching but it makes sense to me that they charge people to make potions for them. I am sure her name would have earned her a favor such as supplying her with love potion....basically Horace was her dealer.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahayourfunny94 He was a dealer 😆
He does seem to be connected to the magic black market, with his stealing of plants and stuff
"Her dealer" 😂😂💀 slughorns secretly a baller.
Brewing a potion is not that different from cooking a meal. If you have the proper equipment and a list of instructions, you don't need any sort of education or special skill. Provided she didn't use a school textbook and could read, she'd have been perfectly capable of brewing the potion herself.
What an amazing writer JK Rowling is, the Harry Potter series ended 10 years ago and here people are still thinking of great theories.
Harry Potter will never end
yemeniassasin Always.
ObsessedGamer
*Nazi
See, by your rational, you are also an idiot, since you made an error. She isn't an idiot for not knowing something that you happen know. (I don't actually think you're an idiot, I'm just making a point here)
ObsessedGamer ~ whether you consider someone to be an idiot or not is your opinion and based on your own level of intelligence (this does not always indicate superior intelligence btw, since we all know about the dunning-kruger effect). However, for a single mum to casually put together 7 books for her child going through high school, one for each year, using age appropriate content and vocabulary, increasing the complexity of the plots appropriately for the perceived age per year and to demonstrate an innate understanding of the inner workings of a child and their inter-personal relationships during each year of development throughout those formative years is pretty impressive to most. As a mum I can honestly say this woman's understanding of children on many levels is spot on. She also has an exceptional grasp of the English language and has a creative ability very few could compete with. If that makes her an idiot then I aspire to be as idiotic as her one day :)
yemeniassasin ikr! That's what makes Harry Potter so good!!!
Not super important but worth mentioning anotentia is the world's most powerful love potion not the only love potion
Or you know the whole love is dangerous thing. Or how the story suggests (and folklore in general) that love potions can only create obsessoin not true love.
Or, you know, that if you follow the use of a love potion to it's conclusion as did Merope, it´s actually rape. And if you do this for a prolonged period of time, you´re essentially creating a sex slave, which is absolutely vile and I don´t see how it is any different from, say, the imperius curse, which is one of the unforgivable curses precisely because you are taking away someone´s free will and bodily autonomy. It's almost like the imperius curse in potion form.
Paranormal Encyclopedia i
Paranormal Encyclopedia It doesn't suggest, it's a fact.
yslrg It's unforgivable because of the intent required to cast it.
The Cruciatus Curse requires true desire to cause pain and suffering to cast. It therefore makes sense that the Killing and Imperius Curses require true desire to murder, and to control and essentially own someone, respectively.
And it's because they all require such intent to cast that they’re unforgivable. That’s the common thread running through them, and explains why the Killing Curse, something that causes instant, painless death is unforgivable, but something like Confringo, that can cause a prolonged, painful death, isnt. It’s because of the intent needed to cast them.
No its probably because one lady plus the love potion equals probably war, whether on purpose or accident.
Or maybe she just bought it from a potion store
Has anyone thought about that ???
The only money they had was the value of the two heirlooms.
@@MegaKhelditia By that logic, she couldn't have acquired the ingredients either. I also always assumed she just bought the potion...
@@MegaKhelditia She could have shoplifted it.
@@MegaKhelditia she sold the locket didn't she ?
@@khalilrahme5227 but that was after getting pregnant, therefore after making the love potion
Why do these theories always make so much sense ???
Casey Prince because how tgey say it and go intp detail
Casey Prince Lol
Casey Prince every time I watch one of these videos, I'm like "that makes so much sense!" Then I look down at the comments and everyone hates it.
IKR. I may not like the theory but in the back of my mind they always make some sort of sense. And then the frustration and the internal battle starts. And the side of 'This makes sense' always wins.
Casey Prince if there didn't make sense it wouldn't have been posted
in the books, slughorn didnt steal the leaves, he was there with madame sprout
jon emery yea
The movies really did piss all over one of the best Slytherins, didn't they?
Clint L yep
Clint L Regulus Black. Yes he was a Death Eater, but c'moon. You know his story.
TheWispWillow that was only in the movie. In the book he wasn't alone. He had permission t get the leaves
Sorry, but I have to disagree.
The Gaunts thought that Mirope was a squib so why should they have let her attend Hogwarts?
Also, in the history of Ilvermorny on Pottermore it says that the founder was abducted by her aunt because she was a descendant of Slytherin and her Parents didn't believe in pureblood superiority. So basically, she was like the Gaunts and she *didn't* let her niece attend Hogwarts.
Dumbledore suggests that her apparent lack of magical skill came from being constantly terrorized by her father and brother.
It's a wonder that she didn't develop an Obscuras.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 because obscuras grow up in a family/environment with full on magic haters. the gaunts were literally one of the oldest wizarding families.
@@peacheroseee ariana dumbledore had an obscurus too though
@@friendlyneigborhoodbean that's because she was traumatized by a gaggle of muggle boys who saw her doing magic. while it isn't ever clearly mentioned, we can assume she got beaten up so badly cause she had to stay the rest of her life at her house.
@@peacheroseee oh ok. Got it.. My bad
IT SAYS IN THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE BOOK THAT MAROPE DID NOT GO TO HOGWARTS
Violet Wooden ikr
which chapter? (I only asking cause I don't have enough time to hunt through the book for hour once again god damn homework!!!!)
Yes, I remember that Marvolo said it to Ogden that none of his children went to shool.
Bro see the video completely
It doesn't say it word for word, but at the time of Ogden's memory, she was around seventeen or eighteen (since she was 18 when she left the house of Gaunt), she HAD she gone to Hogwarts, she would have already graduated, and I doubt that she did considering that her father and brother believed she was a squib and the Gaunts had very little (if any) money they could spend on things like transportation or school supplies. (Chapter 10 of HBP)
Again, I don't think it says anywhere in the books "the Gaunt children never attended school," but it seems fairly obvious to me that they didn't and this theory could not have taken place.
That being said, it IS a neat theory, although I have always believed that Slughorn was once married under the influence of Amortentia, or something of that nature.
Slughorn is an amazing character he's so underrated
Agreed. I want a new book series revolving around young Slughorn and his misadventures with various potion.
I love that JKR included him in the final 3 to duel Voldemort. It really shows how much he regretted giving Tom info on the Horcruxes and how badly he wanted to make amends for that mistake.
I really like him. Eventhough he has character traits some consider very Slytherin like and negatively, he still lives his life and there is something beautiful about that.
I personally think that Slughorn called love potion the most dangerous potion in the room because of other reason.
Other potions do not alter who you are, your actions. That one elixir that makes you speak only truth can be dangerous, but not as dangerous as a person in love. If potion is strong enough the affected will do anything for their 'true love'. Which can lead to serious manipulations with people that can affect entire countries. Remember when Ron ate love potion by accident? He would do anything Romilda asks just to show how much he loves her. That could happen to any person of any importance.
Leave all my savings in your bank vault? Of course, my love.
Give you a look on those super secret government documents I have access to? As you wish, darling
Kill someone? No problem, my love.
You didn't order any fries but you want mine now? They are yours now.
Just imagine how destructive it can be if someone manipulates things like that.
sharing fries is destructive
you are a wise one
Alex Mel
I mean, murder, secrets, money, all that’s ok to manipulate. But fries? THIS POTION MUST BE BANNED! INNOCENT FRIES ARE AT STAKE’m
Surely the 🍟 are not to be acquired through such lowly means!!!
Dying is worse. The only thing worse than dying is creating Voldemort. Get it? Good.
So it's kinda like... love potion is a sort of imperius curse 2.0?
Didn't the book state that Merope did not attend Hogwarts, as it was too "poisened" by Muggleborns and blood-traitors? Still like this idea, though :3
Don't recall that, but I wouldn't be surprised. Gormlaith Gaunt kept Isolt Sayre from attending Hogwarts for that very reason.
It doesn't say it word for word (as far as I can tell), but at the time of Ogden's memory, she was around seventeen or eighteen (since she was 18 when she left the house of Gaunt), she HAD she gone to Hogwarts, she would have already graduated, and I doubt that she did considering that her father and brother believed she was a squib and the Gaunts had very little (if any) money they could spend on things like transportation or school supplies. (Chapter 10 of HBP)
Again, I don't think it says anywhere in the books "the Gaunt children never attended school," but it seems fairly obvious to me that they didn't and this theory could not have taken place.
That being said, it IS a neat theory, although I have always believed that Slughorn was once married under the influence of Amortentia, or something of that nature.
Lizzie Basu 
Evelina Rønneseth
It's pronounced (leviosa) MER/A/AY
Also, just because Merope didn't go to Hogwarts doesn't mean that Slughorn didn't know her. It would have been easy for him to locate her, as her family was pretty well known, and with his obsession for famous people, it's exactly the sort of thing he would have done. Just a thought :)
Dumbledore said Merope wasn't bad at magic she was just under pressure because of how her father abused her. When he went to Azkaban, she went on to become a powerful witch
May want to fact-check. I'm fairly certain it was Phineas who made the comment about Slytherins being brave but not stupid.
macavitythenardier Yep
Once again, a very convincing theory, Ben.
I think the book says that probably because her father and brother bullied her she could not perform well magic.And once they were gone in prison she was able to unleash her powers fully as she had no one to be over her head all the time.Still nice theory though :D
Ability to perform magic does not mean ability to brew complicated potions :P I mean, yeah, she could have tried, she knew how fire under the pot works, but potions often require precision and patience witch a total newbie probably wouldn't have ;-)
Oh I think she had an overbundance of patience. No impatient person would deal with their abusive family the way she did, or the entire situation with Tom Riddle. She wanted him to really love her, but knew it to be improbable, so she acted carefully.
Plus, she just might've had a talent for it, like Snape. Remember, the one who's been correcting his potions textbook during his sixth year, possibly even earlier. When you have a talent for something, it's somehow easier to learn it, even from the zero, where someone else would have to spend long hours learning even most basic things.
HEY BROTHER
I always assumed the Gaunts never attended Hogwarts due to Salazar leaving. They were so proud of their heritage that they refused to step foot at a school that Salazar disowned.
Am I the only one who equates those love potions to date rape? Like, I thought that was the reason why it was dangerous, because you can give that to anyone and potentially take advantage of them in their "Lovey-Dovey" state.
Rachel McAllister Yeah, it really is date rape in a vial. It’s gross.
Pollen juice could be used as daterape and in dozens of other dangerous ways
Yes and there's the chance of creates a psychopathic child. That may or may not become the second magic Hitler.
No, a lot of us do. I think it’s a universally despised concept. many people in the pagan communities will say the same thing, using magic to steal free will is just dark as you can get with out killing someone
Exactly.And if you conceive a child using it then that turns into voldemort
No. Voldemort already knew about his to make a horcrux before he asked Slughorn.
No, Merope was never at Hogwarts. No, she and Slughorn never crossed paths. I doubt he knew where Little Hangleton was.
Yes, Merope had sufficient magic to live by on her own. She could have made a love potion. Whether amortensia or not, we do not know. We know that she wanted Tom Riddle's genuine love so she released him, but when she was rejected, she refused to use magic anymore.
Add another item to the list of why magical England is a worse than medieval hellscape for its citizens: no Child Protective Services to take children out of terrible, abusive conditions. Merope languished in a terrible, filthy, insane, poverty-stricken home for no reason.
@@sarahk2722 child protection service would come to exist until 70 years after thats event , and they didn't help Harry much either even though he lived in a mugger world
@@sarahk2722 Yes, but that was a 100 years ago and I'm pretty sure the Gaunts had spells against things like that anyway, so no....
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Slughorn wasn't bad. Slughorn wanted to have a collection of students who would help him gain something. So he picked high achievers for example Lily, Harry and many others. Sad thing is that Slughorn didn't pay attention to students who weren't achieving.
Also remember the weasleys sold love potions in their shops. In the 1920s you could buy undiluted chemicals in shops in the muggle world. Could it have been possible that she bought a powerful, undiluted potion and tipped some into the water she gave to Tom riddle Sr. I wonder if the ministry put restrictions on undiluted potions later and the weasleys were selling a potion that was so weak it couldn't have done much. Remember those potions were sold to children
Ah, but we've been told they were not weak.
They weren't weak because it's the same stuff that was in the chocolate cauldrons that Ron ate that made him infatuated with Romilda Vane
I actually think they are weak because because slughorn says they can become more powerful over time
This is a really good theory! Also, ravenclaw will always be the best for the whole dying for your friends situation. Gryffindors would die for you, hufflepuffs would die with you, slytherins would let you die and ravenclaws would find a way where no one dies. Boom.
I really like the new things showing which brother is talking and their social media in the video. Really puts some new aspects to the video. Going to follow right now ;)
Nice theory, unfortunately, we know for a fact that no Gaunt has ever gone to Hogwarts, because of the fact that they are related to Slytherin. Or at least not the branch of the Family where Merope was born into. As the father himself say that he never reads mail, which will include any acceptance letter for his children. Anyhow...nice theory :)
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She didn't go to Hogwarts specifically because she was a Gaunt. They were hermits. She couldn't leave because her father was so traditional that he couldn't even take care of himself, he needed his daughter to stay home at all times to do all the house work and cooking. He thought the love potion was the most dangerous one in there because it's just common sense. If you can't think of ways that love potion could be extremely dangerous...
1:01 Wow SCB you are the most dramatic TH-camrs I have ever seen! XD
So First of all: MEROPE RIDDLE DID NOT GO TO HOGWARTS!
Secondly, the person that says she is bad at magic is her abusive father which can be seen as an unreliable narrator at best in this instance.
Katrina Eames You should probably support your idea of Merope not going to Hogwarts. I'm not saying you're wrong (in fact, I don't know for sure if she went there or not), but you're not going to be listened to if you don't back up your thesis.
Thank you. I was just saying that
It's in the book
ehm it's not
In Chamber of Secrets, Tom Riddle says he and Harry were the only parselmouths to ever attend Hogwarts. Now some sources say some of the Gaunts long ago attended, but if Tom Riddle doesn't know about them, it likely wasn't recent, and it likely wasn't his mother. I'm not sure if it was otherwise confirmed Merope never went to Hogwarts, but it's at least strongly implied.
Just discovered the channel and have been doing a deep dive into the Harry Potter videos. When reading the books, I think the worst self realization I had was that Slughorn was extremely relatable to me, in that he viewed knowledge as awesome and liked sharing his knowledge with others. He was smart, he was proud of it, and if someone asked for his help, he of course was going to help them, even if the knowledge was frowned upon. Because... I think he hoped for the best from people. He was definitely a Slytherin and knew the value of networking and whatnot, but he also just... Seemed to think most people were curious for curiosity's sake. So he helped people, shared his knowledge, maintaining good friendships and all that... And then some of those people did awful things and he felt it was all his fault for being so... Nice. Not being as suspicious as he should be. I myself do this so often despite being very aware of people's manipulative tendencies. But you just... Want to believe in people, you know? I was also sorted into Slytherin via Pottermore (and every other random quiz, haha), and I just... Really relate to Slughorn's good qualities, and I know that I probably would have done the exact things he did. Sharing information and helping people, only for it to backfire. Stereotypes of Slytherin don't sound like this, but trust me; we are more than just our ambition to do all the things, know all the things, etc. XD
I love the way Voldemort says Avada Kedaavra...
“EhVAAAHDAH KADAAAVHRAH
EUWHHADAH KAEDAUWRAH
IIIIIIIIII WANNA BANANA
EHVADHAA KEVAHDRAH
You Guys are Awesome!!! Keep up the good work
Mace Windu?
Mace Windu I saw you at a stupendous wave video
Star Wars party!
This is a fascinating theory; Slughorn being inadvertently responsible for Voldemort’s birth, and his attempts at immortality by telling him about the Horcruxes!
I disagree with the idea she went to Hogwarts or that slughorn helped her. It's possible that there were potion books hanging around the house. Hogwarts is expensive and if Merope went there she would be a lot more independent than she was. Probably would have went after a pureblood wizard instead.
how is hogwarts expensive in any way? what costs at hogwarts?
"So, how much does it cost to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and
Wizardry? J.K Rowling answered that question in response to debates over
whether or not there was tuition for the Harry Potter school. As it happens, Hogwarts is free. Well, tuition is free.
Following an article over at Mic.com, which did a pretty thorough breakdown of what it might cost to attend the fictional academy at the center of the Harry Potter
books, and estimating what the tuition for the school might be
($42,000), J.K. Rowling took to Twitter to respond to a fan's inquiry on
he matter, and she laid the issue to rest...
' @emmalineonline1 @micnews There's no tuition fee! The Ministry of Magic covers the cost of all magical education!- J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) July 17, 2015' "
Source: www.cinemablend.com/pop/How-Much-Hogwarts-Tuition-Really-Costs-According-J-K-Rowling-73106.html
Rachel Edwards and how do you know
Dumbledore told Voldemort in their first meeting Hogwarts offers financial assistance to people who can't afford books, robes, etc.
Of course, if you look above in the comments, you will see someone fixing that problem.
Also, we see in the Half-Blood Prince that there are funds and temporary supplies for those in need of books or materials; twice, in fact; First with Harry and Ron, until new books were provided for them, and young Tom Riddle, who has no Wizarding money and no connections to Gringotts.
0:54 Lavender:HMMMM I could use this......
Is it necessary that Merope gave Tom Riddle Amortentia? Like, it couldn't have been some other love potion that she gave him?
sildarmillion i agree. As far as I know, it was never mentioned what kind of love potion she gave riddle.
Amortentia is "the most powerful love potion in existence." This suggests that there are weaker love potions out there, presumably easier to make as well. Amortentia was absurdly influential on Ron, so she probably could have made him "love" her enough with constant application of a relatively simple potion.
Besides, potions really shouldn't be a hard subject at all. In terms of crafting a potion at least, it's practically the same as cooking except with weirder ingredients. It's literally just following instructions in a book. Rowling just tries (and fails) to make it sound like a difficult subject to give extra opportunity for conflict between Harry and Snape.
The 6th book implies that the potions book are riddled with mistakes. No wonder why the class is hard when the recipes are all wrong.
Yes you are correct. They really should have published Snape's versions of the different potions. Even so, the normal directions can get you there. Again, it's artificial difficulty through making the subject itself flawed to make the students make mistakes.
It's just like chemistry... really hard if you are not good at it
Literally everything except for making antidotes to mixed poisons is just following a recipe. I'm pretty sure all the tests are open book too, so it's not even as though they have to memorize the recipes.
It's like having your test be to make spaghetti in marinara sauce. Sure there are a bunch of steps and a little prior knowledge may be necessary (or you could put notes in the margin), but overall it is just a matter of following directions properly.
Well, chemistry was JK Rowling's least favourite subject at school, so she decided that the wizarding equivalent would be Harry's least favourite
Why does he never blink? 😆
Because he's a snake.
Psychosmurf5471 cause he's a Slytherin
The angels must be near
He does 😂
Fan theory! He has no eyelids
Fun theory. I think its even cooler if he didnt know what he was doing (same with telling tom about the horcruxes and with the felix) but theres no evidence to support it
My son is 2 and a half years old and loves hearing the "heyy brothers" part, and keeps repeating that whenever he sees me watching your videos😊
brewing potions is far differnt from waving your wand, this is said in the first book. You dont need magic to make a potion, you need the ingrediants and knowledge.
But on pottermore it is said Muggles cant make potions because they cant do magic
Of course, it would help, especially when the instructions say to tap with your wand.Just saying.
No guys, you don't get it - the reason Voldemort is so evil is because he was conceived under a love potion!!
That only means that he's naturally incapable of love, but that doesn't necessarily make him evil. Had Merope survived and raised him, he would've been okay, so sayeth JK.
@@MegaKhelditia and when J.K. says something that's not about toilets, it's true
LeatherLace&NuzzlingYourFace
Exactly, people have to tendency to forget that Harry Potter is about how you have a choice to become what you see as idealistic. You're not supposed to let your circumstances define you. If that were the case, then Harry very much could've turned evil.
@@UnfamiliarIntimacy not really. People with Harry's upbringing tend to get anxious and depressed, not psychotic.
Fif0l
People with Harry's upbringing tend to become the monsters they were raised around. Look up studies of abusers, pedophiles, rapists, school shooters, etc. They feel the the urge to inflict the pain they experienced on others because they went through it. That's not always 100% the case but there's some sort of dysfunction in their life growing up. No one just ones day wakes up and becomes evil. There's more to it than people like to believe. JK Rowling said if Voldemort himself was actually raised like a normal child he could've turned out differently.
The quote at 7:24 was said by Phineas Niggelius, Sirius's great great grandfather to Harry in The Order Of The Phoenix when he is debating about running away.
Great video once again! :)
Wow dude you simply blew my mind!
I just thought this "most dangerous potion in the room" sentence was only to warn the students that it might look like the most harmless but that a book shouldn't be judged by its cover, or simply that it is dangerous because people can do crazy and dangerous things in the name of love, something like that.
Then you come up with the "Slughorn made Merope's love potion" theory.
BANG!
You're amazing!
I see "two minutes ago" on the notification, I think "Noooo! I'm two minutes late!" :)
I love your Harry Potter theories!!!They always make so much sense and are really cool and just generally great👌 But Gryffindors are not stupid, so there. 😂
Merope. Is pronounced mer-oh-pay. Also, she didnt go to hogwarts, Marvolo wanted nothing to do with the establishement.
Kai Green yeah I’ve been pronouncing it Mer-rope I’ll try to adjust it. It sounds way prettier she must have been named by her mother. Her dad probably would have just named her Dung.
@@beatrixthegreat1138 He probably would've named her BabyMaker, since she was the last slytherin heiress, and he might not have expected explosive magic at birth.
But he was mad, and her birth may have killed his sister wife, so... maybe.
Merope rhymes with rope. Not Meropay
@@mkaylor121 No... it doesn't. Listen to the audiobook read by Stephen Fry. He pronounces it "maer-o-pay". Why does he do that? Because he consulted with Rowling while doing the recording of the audiobook.
MAROPE WAS BAD AT MAGIC!!! NOT POTIONS!!!
This is one of my favorite Carlin Brother's videos. I've never though of this. It sounds EXACTLYike the type of thing Slughorn would be a part of (unknowingly) and ashamed of. This is an excellent theory.
I haven't been this early for a long time. Woot woot woot!
I was never under the impression that there was only one type of love potion. I always assumed there were some that were not as powerful but less difficult to make.
I actually got this theory right when he mentions that Slughorn says it's the most dangerous potion in the room. I called it 😎
Yay once again another Harry potter vid with no dislikes I wish it would stay like this :)
This is an amazing theory on a quote I 100% overlooked and it just adds up so well!
It's also a theory that relies on the viewer overlooking a bunch of other quotes that would make them realise it's rubbish.
This is one of those "theories" that is REALLY reaching, y'all.
To be fair, most of the theories on this channel fall into that category. A consistent representation of death is taken for a complete ride in an utter video to ensure that 1+1=657. They're more fanfic than theory.
They're good for a chuckle though.
@@NoxiousNoodles
Well, there ain't much more to theorize about is there.
hey brother!
Why is your profile picture a police mugshot?
1:30 Exactly! The thing is, Amortentia is dangerous on ANYONE'S hand
"Slytherins are awesome?" On that point, I have long thought that one of the secret hidden themes of the Potter books is Harry should have gone to Slytherin. His asking to be put in Gryffindor was a great & tragic mistake. If he had been in Slytherin it would have been easier for Harry to have learned from Snape. Harry could have built a relationship w/ Draco & led in another direction.
"He is a known memory concealer." Haha
merope's brother and father were keeping her down. it's perfectly possible that she was an excellent witch when not under pressure from her family.
also, considering that her father literally calls her a squib... i seriously doubt she ever went to ANY magic school.
keep in mind that if the gaunts had gone to hogwarts, they would have been VERY vocal about their lineage, and eeryone would know that slytherin had living heirs. in book 2 it is clearly NOT common knowledge that slytherin had ANY heirs. most people don't even know about voldemort's ancestry.
The moment I learned of the nature of Tom's conception and re-heard Slughorn say that line, it clicked immediately for me.
Why wasn’t she (merope) an obscurial?
She didn't feel the need to hide and repress her magical talent; her brother and father terrified her focus away such that she couldn't do any with them nearby. She was much more capable when they were carted off to Azkaban after she turned 18.
As a plot hole for Harry Potter doesn't nearly headless nick said he was afraid of death so he became a ghost couldn't Voldemort just tell a death eater what to do when he is ghost because he is afraid of death
Or just get a painting of him though I think the Painting is one of those "it's not really you" type of situation also ghost can't do magic so theirs an onlbvious reason right there
But as a ghost he would have been powerless, dependent on someone to do his biddings. No one would have a reason to follow him any more. Ghosts cannot perform magic and there is no way to ever recreate a body for yourself once you have become a ghost. The idea does not make sense at all from voldemorts perspective...
He wants power , not to juat float around powerless .
Nope. Ravenclaws are da best.
Any other eagles hear!?!
I am the proudest ravenclaw here
Sydney Wan Kenobi nerds rule
EAGLES FOR LIFE!!!!!🕊🕊🕊🕊
Caroline Boone how can you be a Ravenclaw if you can't even use the correct spelling of "here"?
+Bethany Cunningham While that is a burn, I'd like to say that grammar does not reflect intelligence. As long as you can understand the meaning of the sentence, semantic errors don't really matter. A true Ravenclaw wouldn't waste their time on such trivialities :P
I have a question we’re there any really famous or really evil wizards from the other schools?
Who else is a Slytherin???
Derpy Creeper nobody? cuz it aint real.
I'm an accio bum
Derpy Creeper aye
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she did not go to Hogwarts because the family member kills the family she escapes and goes to America and makes her own magic school she is taught at the family members house
Ben just one problem with your theory, merope gaunt never went to hogwarts
But more importantly, how would Merope and Horace even meet in the first place? Let alone Merope having any knowledge of Horace Slughorn being affluent with potions or simply knowing about the Slughorn family. Marvolo would probably not tell Merope and Morfin anything about the rest of the Sacred 28 families for them to not be with "blood traitors", and the Slughorn family possibly might be part of Marvolo's list if they are involved of defending Muggle-borns.
PotterNerd did you watch the video?He made another theory that he went to Hogwarts IN THE VIDEO
Did you guys watch the video?
Irulan was it? Which line to be specific?
Team the guy who almost hit Bela with a car yeah i don't remember that but I'm usually wrong
I have just found your channel, these little insights are so fun. And bring up things I never second guessed.
Merope was thought to be a squib by her father (thought she wasn't auctually but that was found out after she was an adult) so she couldn't go to Hogwarts beacuse they do not exept squibs .
Except as janitors.
That quote was NOT Horace Slughorn's.It was said by Phineus Nigellius Black,Sirius Black's Great Great Grandfather and Headmaster of Hogwarts.
Thank you! I was looking for someone who caught this.
BLAZEISONFIRE Your Welcome!
Yeah,I can't believe no one else did!
I love Harry Potter. I know a lot. The Hourglass was not in the book.
BLAZEISONFIRE No The hourglass was not.They made him much nicer in the film.
Hmm i never really noticed
That quote isn't Slughorn, it's the painting of Finus Inijeuse (I don't know how to spell it) Sirius' great great grandfather.
I am a Gryffindor and I am Offended
"Wormtail was a Gryffindor that went bad, and Slughorn was a Slytherin that didn't go and become death eater because supposedly that's a Slytherin's destiny. Yeah. Because Gryffindors are gods among insects and Slytherins are devil's pawn. Of course.
It made me think that the potion may have darker side effects. That the children conceived while one of the parents are under the potions effects may be twisted by the magic. If Slughorn knew this, or later figured it out, that would mean that he understood that he inadvertently created Voldemort. But who would of known it would be used to conceive a child as most of the time one would think it would be just use to get another. And though those type of activities may follow the likelihood of a child can still be hit or miss. But for one to use it with intent to bare a child, I would image the magic would be twisted and would have side effects on the child as well since the intent of the magic involved it as well.
One could image that since they don't always have to speak to cast spell, it is the intent that matters more than the words. The words are merely used to align the intent with the action. So should a magic normally used on only one be used with a second in mind, say a child, it would not be so far fetched to say that the spell would effect the second in some way. Now with someone who has such a dark intent, an intent that is heavily desired, as to steal a man for his child, I would image the effect would pass on to the child in some way. The negative energy creating a being or darkness unlike that which the world had seen before.
But, hey, that's just a theory!
Dylan Watts that's why voldemort can't feel love!because he was a child of a love potion!
Dylan Watts wrong channel bro
2:48
Is it just me? Or...
“Salazar Thlytherin himself”
Slytherin is awesome
Ravenclaw 27 man that comment is ironic xD
Yet your name is “Ravenclaw 27” 😂
Actually I think the love potion is the most dangerous potion because it directly effects how someone can act against their will. Not only physically act but emotionally act. Combine the two and you’ve got yourself a pretty powerful tool at your disposal. I would imagine that being as well traveled as he is, he would have seen the potion abused by many over the years.
I think that this could actually be very plausible.. Great theory as always guys 👍
Its me-ro-pe (meripé) not me-rope
Emily, thank you! Some of these pronunciations are brutal 😖
NO! ITS MY ROPE! IT BELONGS TO ME
Emily Koppers what’s the difference.... (yes I speak the languge im just joking)
It's leviosa, not leviosá
Isn't is mer-oh-pee? Like Aphrodite?