Why I Left Christianity pt. 2 (it’s not what you think)
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- This video is a follow-up to the other video on my channel called why I left Christianity. Because of the amount of comments and dialogue that cropped up on that video I have decided to do a second, follow up to the original. Here I describe my upbringing and why I ultimately decided to leave the faith that I knew as my entire world. I hope at least this creates dialogue, and at most help somebody who is in a state of confusion like I was. Much love to all of you ❤️✨
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It is possible to be so dedicated to the Christian faith that you eventually grow out of it. Not that you give up everything necessarily, but just that you grow into a deeper and more mature worldview.
I think you can study the Bible and think "This is crazy, I could not stone my child" and then see other problems and leave. But is so hard to leave the support the group/church family provides.
@@user-gk5fu6br4z Yeah the bible condemns stoning your child lol.
It is not possible to "grow out of" being born again, though. If he wasn't ever a born again Christian, then yes the whole thing was an exercise in futility (concerning salvation), and that is sad.
@@neckutter1125 OH, the old "You were never really born again" nonsense. So if anyone no longer believes as you do, it means they somehow were never really part of "God's tribe". Just absurd and stunningly arrogant.
@@willchristie2650 yes, "the old" as in as old as the Bible because the Bible clearly states that. Dont worry about me, I am not your Judge. Concern yourself with what Gods word told you. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."
Basically they first convince you there is a problem, and then offer the narrow path solution.
It is called having a spiritual awakening that we had to have to discover the truth and be free.
So you must believe or, did believe in eternal salvation.
Thank you for your generous content. It helps more than you know.
This shit is easy for the atheist but not for billions of indoctrinated. they just might back fire with a blow atheist might soon fear. Whether or not I can not say Creation does not exist.
...this whole thing....with God creating us, with the angels and all the things that have been and yet to be, I think, runs much darker and deeper than anyone cares to admit. You're absolutely right about sacred text. Being a Christian isn't exactly what I imagined it would be...but I know that I want to ride on this train until I end lol. I left them. Not him lol. I'm sure he understands why.
This is a challenge to Christians and also to most people in western culture (Europe, North America, areas in south America, the Middle east, Japan etc.) There are people dying from hunger, lack of medical care, lack of potable water, exposure to the elements, military actions. This is happening every second of every day. Here we are cooking or eating out with elaborate foods often times throwing away the excess. We live in homes with one or more bathrooms for every person, game rooms, living rooms, dining rooms, dens, offices, walk in closets, guest rooms expensive kitchens . We go on vacations, have a continuous delivery of Amazon gifts to ourselves. We drive vehicles that are twenty times our weigh. You get the idea. Most of us give something to charity some more than others but rarely to an extent that we deny ourselves much of anything. Yet in church in other organizations, Twitter, TH-cam, the business world, government , the media the situation hardly gets mentioned and never as a moral imperative. Just my opinion.
I led worship for 11 years. I taught Sunday school. I even stood behind the pulpit and taught. Even through all that, I was never that "100% on fire Christian". I went to church on Sundays and Wednesdays, and I tried to be a good Christian the other 5 days of the week. I was and still not am the perfect Christian. I feel more disconnected from God and Christianity now, because I've been questioning several things that the Bible says and I've been doubting my salvation for the last 3-4 years. I'm not saying I've gone full apostate or atheist, but I know I'm not full Christian either. Unfortunately, Christians are some of the biggest hypocrites in the world. They'll pray for you on Sunday, then cuss you out on Tuesday for something that happened several years ago. This whole process has even made me have thoughts of taking my life because I just can't live the perfect and sinless life that the Bible tells us to, and I also don't want to sin and have to keep continuing to come back because grace and forgiveness is offered. I'm extremely confused and questioning several things right now, and I'm really depressed and discouraged about it. I just don't know what to do. I know I don't want to spend eternity in hell, but I also know that I just can't live the sinless and holy life that Christians are expected to live because I'm not perfect.
It doesnt bother Jesus how many times you have failed. It doesn’t bother Him at all brother ♥️
@@aheartonfire7191 right, you can't bother someone who's dead/not real! good point!
@@gregsmith8977 Goliath, he was darn sure the God of the Bible didn’t exist or could be conquered and he was a heck of a lot bigger than you lol any nation or people that tried to fight against the God of the Bible has failed, there’s loads of examples in the Bible.
@@aheartonfire7191 lmfao
Dr James white said that 80%of New testament scholars are conditionalists which means there is No eternal Torment.
If we are to believe those who say "sinners go to eternal torment", then God has to be thinking; "I am omniscient, and can see that about 89% of the whole population of the world will go to hell because I decide that those who don t accept Jesus with the correct ideas, will have eternal hell. Hmm, nice, I get to listen and seeing (as the omniscient God) their utter despair and terror every second of my existence, for EVER. VERY GOOD!" If He would not think this is a great scenery and soundscape to "enjoy" forever, then WHY would He arrange for Himself to have this hellish suffering of his CHILDREN as an eternal experience, a constant part of His existence to come?
So happy to stumble across your channel! I am currently experiencing this now and seeing that there is a lot of subjectivity in all aspects of Christianity
Subjectivity? Please explain.
@@christophergibson7155 I've been a part of various denominations of Christianity and they all said the other one was wrong or incorrect in some way. But what way are they judging that metric and what if they are the ones who are incorrect? Thus only opinions and personal perspectives seem to be what distinguishes each sect. Not truth.
@@kkd3973Yet is only the Word of God, the Holy Bible that can be the standard. Not opinions or doctrinal misunderstandings. One has to walk in the truth that the Holy Spirit confirms to you through the reading of the scriptures. No one else's opinion is always the gospel truth.
It does not matter to me what the twists and turns are in your life and mine. If Jesus is truly the Son of God, the most important thing is that yours and mine name is written in the Book of Life.
Thank you for the clarity., I agree. I am a "qualified" Christian in the meaning that I Do attend Church and I DO partake of the sacrament. I do so in remembrance of Him...because, I had a reckoning with something Real, not mortal. That Christ taught me I was forgiven from above, but if I don't forgive myself - I was still fucked. I am learning to forgive me. And by forgiving me, I am learning to love Me... and learning to Love all. Its a process. God bless you as you bless others. May the Holy Spirit be with you always;.
Battling OCD scrupulosity
Because so many think they are supposed to understand everything they fall away. Augustine wrote, "seek not to understand that ye may believe but believe that ye may understand". God will show you if you ask him or you can just reject Him. It's our choice of free will.
I am glad you are bdoimg this. I was brought up in a secular world and and I was happy with myself and I just wanted to be follow my heart and my intuition and follow science. I never wanted to get pulled into the stigma and dogma.
I'd like to here the rest, where you stopped at the end. I feel like it might have fitted in the video because it still belongs to the explenation on why you left christianity I suspect. So maybe make a part 3?
The universe is so vast, so incredible so mysterious that the possibility of a god is hard to reject.
But, if God is out there, we know nothing about him. And the authors of conventional religions also know nothing, they just pretend to. Many, if not most religious leaders do not believe their own religions. They use their trusted positions to earn a living. Sometimes a lavish living.
And to think a Hebrew tribal god dictated the Bible and was the one true god out of many thousands of other gods is just impossible
Wow well said and very open to the possibility of more. I like how abundant your point of view is- implying we will learn what we need to learn while we are here and a true god wouldn’t require hoops and psychological gymnastics to access.
I strongly understand of what you were saying. I have been going back and forth with God to. He’s the one that gave us free will to be with Him or not be with Him. That’s every human own choice
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The dumb SOB never gave me that option.
He has chosen to stay in hiding and rely on mere mortals to try to convince me, and not a single one has ever presented a single bit of a convincing argument.
I'll go so far as saying he DOES NOT EXIST!
How do I know? It's called THINKING instead of irrationally believing.
It's a damn joke and only nonthinking nutcases believe such idiocy.
Amen, we gotta see it thru my boy
You orobably go over this in your new vids that i need to watch, but what prompted going into christianity full force? When was this in relationship to your decon journey now?
Im contemplating the reality of whether there is an existential purpose to reality. When i consider the cosmic time scales, the infinite, incomprehensible vastness of the universe, the micro in significance of the speck of the earth, fragile, vulnerable to any cosmic catastrophe and mass extinctions. Is there a cosmic guiding, intelligent purpose( teleology) to this life?
It takes alot of courage to question a philosophy that you’ve been brainwashed in for your entire life. It takes courage to seek further knowledge always searching for the truth. People should respect you for being so honest and brave about your true thoughts. I think ego is heavily tied into religion and some people can’t handle that part of their ego/identity being taken away.
Hi Ezekiel gentle ,Your content makes SENSE. I don't consider myself a Christian ,I was raised and believed as a Christian ,and very recently am questioning everything. I never allowered myself the permission to do so .I was raised in a strict Christian home and stayed in an abusive marriage for 21 years ,all because of Christianity .I feel really liberated now ,and more independent andI can actually 'feel' my emotions.I had a lightbulb moment when I realised Christianity is a religion ,and there are others think I was brainwashed , naive and stuck.Im looking at things more logically now, and also appreciating nature.My ex partner was involved in ministry and my grown up kids went to a Christian school where they were taught only one view. Thanks heaps ....from Australia.
This is an excellent message, "i was were you are and it wasn't enough b/c my Rule Book was in error", sort of to paraphrase. Most love Religion/ Church. Groups/Tribe is in our nature, so is music and so is food. It is even named "Fellowship" eat, talk and meet. I like it, so do we all. Most get it in Church.
People ask "What are you?" meaning Baptist, Methodist, etc. Many come out and suppose religion and ask, "What Church do you go to?" And it is fine to say, "I used to go to Mouth Bethel, now I go to Mount Moriah" sometimes it is b/c more friends go to Mount Moriah.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. I left because preachers taught the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and applauded all the seven deadly sins - to preach that God expects and praises our hatred of the marginalized.
In all cases, it is when a religious person withdraws the primary projection that the numinous experience is objective that the first stage of deconversion begins. Religion refuses to withdraw this primary projection and therefore will never admit that it is a fantasy system. Congratulations on all that have succeeded in withdrawing this primary projection!
I just had this discussion with another recent deconversionist who is still clinging to their infantile belief that there is a transcendent realm and neuroscientist atheists like me don't have access to it because we are somehow cognitively defective! LOL This is the kind of nonsense that still lingers around even after conversion.
Brother, hope you're doing well. It sounds that you were burned out. I hope you can return to faith soon
Spiritual awakening leads us to make changes into our life.
I left christianity. But Jesus still looking through my windows
That's exactly one of the things that started waking me up... looking around and noticing that I was taking a lot more of it a lot more seriously than most... including reading Leviticus lol
Most can't even refrain from going to eat mexican food on Sunday afternoons / sabbath
There are so many types of Spirituality systems--- so numerous religions etc, etc. What specific u are talking about?
This man is making the distinction between Christian Religion and Followers of Jesus Christ.
Followers of Christ are not ok with the world and are in a mode of reducing sin. Jesus does the work, his followers are recipients.
Yo, idk if i or anyone else already commented this, but SHOUT OUT TO THE MK'S🙌🏾 (its so rarely mentioned in majnstream christian culture, i love to magnify it a little bit little bit 🤪)
I have been asking myself this same question for the longest time. "Saved from what?" I asked that most of my journey through my belief. It could not fathom, that if this me that I am is all the me I will be, why is this me so awful? If I can be no better than What I am? Why not climb my ladder of potential. The bible does not teach that there is any potential in you at all. It says you need a savior. And again, the question begs: a savior from what? It's a warm feeling to think a powerful all everything God has your back. It truly is... However. I have left the life behind. I realized I did not need saving.
Yes, it actually IS what we think -
Thank you for sharing these two videos on why you left Christianity, it is certainly an interesting perspective. I would say that it's impossible, after knowing of the existence of God, that you could ever lose faith. I do agree that it may be typical for Christians to lack genuine self-awareness that one may associate with enlightenment. But, that shallow awareness also represents nearly all of the population, not just the Christian population. Therefore, the "Christian faith" should not be limited by the people representing it. The text, in my opinion, points towards Jesus Christ, who is the true cornerstone of Christianity. The part that is foundational for me as someone who has recently started identifying as "Christian", is that Jesus is a person. Jesus is someone who you can spend time with and build a relationship with. This, to me, is what Christianity is all about; spending time with Jesus, receiving insight that only God can provide, and being led by His spirit. As far as what the Body of Christ, or the other Christians can offer you, it is of course different at every church. It is a rare, and beautiful blessing when the church becomes an extension of one's family. If you don't have a church gathering that can be as welcoming as family, and you desire to have that, then it's likely that Jesus is dying to talk to you, perhaps even about relocation.
A lot of people don't have spiritual perception, but His people all know his voice, and there are ways to grow and develop the spiritual perception that Christian pastors typically do not ever teach, which is my only grievance of the church so far. But teaching others to gain spiritual perception may not be the job of the pastor, it's the job of the Holy Spirit. In my own experience, deep relaxation therapy not long after good exercise is how I began to experience Spiritual visions, and visions of Jesus, and God, the creator of the Universe. I led these relaxation practices with listening to my emotions, rather than my thoughts, which allowed me to gain a better understanding of my subconscious mind. I had the curiosity of God too, because I overdosed on fentanyl, twice, and I felt like there was probably someone, much greater than myself, who had my back. Western life, I feel, has gotten too easy for people to see God be real in their everyday lives. It took a lot of pain, then what should have been death, and for God to supernaturally reverse it ALL for me to know without a shadow of a doubt that God is who He says He is.
I can’t respond to everything you said but wow- you are incredibly insightful and well written. The way you separate the church from Christianity itself is inspiring and makes me want to know more about your view. I also resonate very much with your observation of being most open to hearing God after exercise during a meditative state. Keep sharing your thoughts- if not here, with those you trust. You have a keen sense of what truly matters. And in a noisy world, this is invaluable. 🤌
@@ezekielgentle This is so true. I daresay most churches are fake and bad... or at the very least asleep. I had/have a tangible relationship with Christ as a real being. Growing up the Holy Spirit was something I felt every single day without fail. He is the definition of real, realer than you or I. Life had a definitive flow to it.
But moving to the southern united states I encountered this fake, soulless, southern baptist bible belt Christianity everywhere - all performative, all operative, man-enforced, structural, money-hungry. Many people that claimed they were "Christian" used the label to describe their ingroup, not what their heart actually knew/related to in Christ. Lots of worldly, hypocritical, braindead, unawakened behavior. It was as if nobody actually believed. I worked for 3-4 "Christian" companies (who I've since forgiven, Jesus bless them) that underpaid me and made me feel like dirt. My heart broke and my trust eroded. This ignited an existential crisis where I apostatized - was I crazy the whole time? But it was all fueled by the collective gaslighting - God as an idea or fun thought we orchestrate on sundays, not as GOD ALMIGHTY THE REAL LIVING CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.
This is the big issue with the bible. It waters down God to a concept, words on a page, stories. All head knowledge, canon. But God is with you despite whether or not you leave your bible at home. He's so much bigger than we give Him credit for, credit He rightfully deserves. Many churches are about autistically studying the bible instead of relating to God in a literal sense. Above all else, God wants your heart, your desire. Your relationship. And the result of such a relationship is ultimate peace in the soul. Something more valuable than diamonds, and something ONLY obtainable via God in your life. This is why idols and medicating behavior of any kind makes you feel dead inside, your heart is relying on or paying attention to something other than God.
This is why "Christian" movies are so cheap and dumb. Most of the people making them are, in all likelihood, not literal believers. They're just "Christian". You need to find the true believers with the Holy Spirit. It's incredible. I was at a worship night recently with people who actually had the Holy Spirit, and someone prophesied about my life (read my mind basically) who I had never talked to in my life. It's all very real. Later I felt more connected and loved than I ever had in my life, and had delightful conversation/brotherhood. The Holy Spirit was definitely there.
A good tell is how much doubt someone has. If someone claims they're "Christian" but then trusts in anything other than God for provision, or is overcome with immense fear all the time about life, they're in all likelihood not on healthy terms. I hear "you're the man you gotta be the provider" all the time, but truly God is in control, has a plan, and gets to provide. If that's not what you believe, then you're *by definition* not a believer. A lot of people here idolize men as the mystical provider when in reality it's God who is in control of the opportunities. Because of this, people in the south brace for God to fail them, saying "come what may". Which, ironically, is actually pretty blasphemous when you think about it. How pathetic is a god who you have to account for their failures to provide for you or take care of you? It makes no sense. The doubt is incredible. I never want my heart to be conditioned that way.
Anyone who says they're a "Christian" and doesn't have tangible conviction is about as dead in the water and phony as you can get. I realized this recently about the area I'm living in and am, not at all coincidentally, planning to relocate, just like OP's post said. I'm tired of people voicing doubts about God. I am yearning for a church body to call family. Meanwhile, God has opened up a job opportunity there right on time, and I've met a few people there, right on time. Turns out when you trust God implicitly with life, things start to flow again, because He's mighty.
Random, but thiughts on Carlton pearson? I know, so random, but just asking. And while were at it, thoughts on ravi zacharias? I know so random, but i know imma boit to spam your videos so imma give you some questions before i do that 😁
Is it possible for you to tell me what Christianity is? Where does it come from and do it according to scripture?
oh it's a good day whenever someone is delivered from Jesus.
Heheh you know 😂🫶
Woe Eternal to you who call Good as "evl" and evl as "good."
you're in hll.
@@HunnysPlayliststhe Bible is an evil propaganda piece
This Man Delivered From Jesus.. Jesus Delivered From Father.. So I wonder Who Delivered The Father🤧🤧
My question is this? For say a person living in isolation who was illiterate and had a Bible of the old scripture that would make no sense to him even if he tried. How could he possibly be judged for something that he does not know
Judged according to our knowledge
"...with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
- Matthew 7:1
Good for you! I lost my god belief by age 13, and I can't imagine how terrible life would be if I had that ridicules belief still.
Interesting video and it makes sense. I think some people have different ideas of what it is to be a believer. I used to go to a Pentecostal church. You quickly realize if you are to take following the rules literally even trying your best you will constantly be making mistakes. Get ready to repent like a mad person. I studied Calvinism. Some aspects of that are repulsive. I now have a free grace worldview. This is based on one time faith. It also coincides with Paul’s teachings about not being under the law. I sympathize with people with other points of view, more now, including atheist and unreached people groups. I think being a Christian means many different things to different people. I think the free grace theology makes more sense
But that’s the problem. Just like everyone else thinks their version makes more sense. The more you honestly look into religion’s especially Christianity you will find thousands of flaws that will make you ask WHY do you believe in these stories in these old books. Some of them really gross immoral stories
I feel like my automation is damaged
If your parents are still alive, please tell them that I’m very thankful for missionary like your parent for bringing us the gospel.
SPIRITUALITY IS "looking inside".
Nah the Bible makes previsions for cases such as yours. "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." 1 John 2:19.
Once a person experiences the supernatural, internal transformation wrought by the Holly Ghost, the person becomes a new creature with new desires 2 Corinthians 5. This transformation is IRREVERSIBLE. So once experienced, there's no way back. Like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. The change is irreversible. BUT if this transformation never takes place, you can do all the christian things: sing the songs, read the bible cover to cover, go to church 2/7, go to bible study, go to seminary and the whole nine yards, yet you are not a christian. You can enter a garage and stay there the rest of your life but that doesn't make you a car. Sooo, don't fool yourself. You were never a christian. You did the christian "stuff" no question about that. But the internal, supernatural new birth never took place. And that's why you "left" christianity.
what’s the Bible verse that says we are all cursed? u can’t just reference things offhand without proof and saying “i coud site verses” is lazy - im truly asking - please respond
Jeremiah 17:9-10 New King James Version (NKJV)
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.
John 3:18 (ESV)
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
You can read more about the concept of “Sin Nature” by visiting this link: www.gotquestions.org/sin-nature.html
@@ezekielgentle OKAY SO CURSED IS UR INTERPRETATION and i do not read the word cursed here - ure releasing disinformation no thanks pass
i also left that religion but when u put lies on top of their lies u are doing the world a disservice
have u looked into Gnosticism at all!?
Christianity is Judaism 2.0. Islam is 3.0 😮
In my "judgement" of you, you are a very good person. You're honest, and seek truth. You live your beliefs and take care of others and yourself.
Just as you were before you de-converted. I hope other good people who are still in religion can see that too. It's nice to live in a World with good people in it, you have my thanks.
May God guide you.
Hey Ezekiel, I believe I watched and commented part 1 earlier today. I agree that scriptural interpretation is subjective for thousands of denominations however, Jesus Christ founded one Church. What is the foundation? What came first? The New Testament or the Church? Jesus said to Peter, “you are Peter and on this rock, I will build my Church.” (Matthew 16:18) When the 12 disciples went to preach the gospel they preached sacred tradition by word of mouth. The New Testament did not yet exist. The Roman Catholic Church has 72 books canonized books of the Bible. Around the time of Protestantism, 6 books were taken out because they supported the doctrine of purgatory. The Catechism of the Catholic Church provides scriptural references why Catholics believe what we believe and Church doctrine has been around for centuries.
Proverbs 22:15 states, “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far way. We have free-will to follow Jesus Christ. If Jesus Christ loved us by laying down his life, shouldn’t we follow him? What moral compass is higher than this? As Apostle Paul states, “we are crucified Jesus took the curse for us as Apostle Pauls states, “When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in Scriptures. Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree”. (Galatians 3:13)
I think humility is beautiful. I allows us to respect those who come before us, elders, parents, those who teach us, those who sacrifice themselves on our behalf. That is the beauty of humility. How else should we live? Is it better to live for ourselves or for others. Wouldn’t you agree that the life of mother Teresa was a life worth living since she was self giving? Doesn’t God know our true identity since he created us? Thank you for testimony.
Listening to your frustration, you actually remind me lf myself when the Lord called me closer to him. He reveled that he does still speak today and wants intimacy and fellowship, not just to save us from hell aka fire insurance. However, i quickly got consumed with my world again when thise closest to me and the examples of faith dismissed me or what i was experiencing. Diminishing or undermining how seeious i was taking God for the first time in my life. I was resentful for years and didnt even know that root of bitterness wasnt of the Lord and made it even harder to understand the revelations and teachings of Jesus
We are in evil days, and one of those evils is unforgiveness, resentment, grudges... im not holding that against you bc i know where it comes from, but i am saying that these weeds have grown with the seeds of the gospel that you still possess but is now corrupted. I hate giving you much to read, but my recommendation is to get into the word again for yourself to show yourself approved (hint: you wont - and thats okay!! Thats why jesus came❤ accept it, believe it, live from it)
What are u taking
@@Non-religiou Jesus brother❤️
@@preciousbees5721 Sure, most likely 🍄
Islam is the final revelation from the one true god. Christianity and Judaism were changed by the hands of men but the basic message was originally the same that there is one god worthy of worship. The Bible New Testament was written by anonymous authors hundreds of years after Jesus in a foreign language.
In addition: if you really think your life after death will be better than your current life, you're not really living. You're just waiting to die.
I don't disagree with you that many who claim to believe do not actually believe. It may be that many don't understand what it means to believe, or just plain hypocrisy, or any number of reasons. But we are told this is the case:
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Matt. 7:22-23)
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Matt. 7:13-14)
Nevertheless, you come across as knowing more than you could know about those who comment on your videos, and your tone is accusatory. In other words, you sound a lot like Satan at certain points here. You are not omniscient. When they threw Jonah overboard, they might have made a lot of assumptions about Jonah based on what THEY knew, but they didn't know about the fish, or the fact that Nineveh would have a revival, etc. So while I would agree with you THEOLOGICALLY that many who claim to have faith are in fact not "sown on good soil" (Matt. 13), my overall impression of your comments on this topic is that you see yourself as being in a position to accuse others you feel have not "committed" themselves in the same way you have.
Here is the bad news for you: if you do not believe, you never "committed" yourself to jack squat except yourself. You confused the ecstasy of pride with an experience of regeneration. If you have never experienced regeneration, then you will never be able to tell the difference, because pride is a counterfeit "salvation" experience of sorts that is nearly indistinguishable from the "real thing" if you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make with the "negative energy" thread of thought. If you have cancer, I'm not doing you any favors by telling you that you're actually perfectly healthy.
I will give you credit for two things: (1) you seem to have at least some vague understanding of why the Gospel actually makes sense, in terms of WHY we need a savior, and (2) you didn't mention anything about perverted sex. You made it on the very short list of "deconstruction" videos that don't ultimately land with "and finally, I figured out that there was nothing wrong with me screwing the people I've wanted to screw this whole time anyway."
99% of these "deconstruction" videos are just lame excuses for not feeling guilty over being a pervert. Maybe you reveal that in one of your other videos, I don't know. But at least you made ONE whole video where you didn't waste everyone's time waxing eloquent about your old study bible and how much you highlighted it, when all you really had to say was "I want to dress up like a pony and go to orgies every Friday night, so I quit going to church and now I don't feel guilty about it anymore." Bravo for that, believe me it's rare.
1:37 say it with me: if it's hearsay it's HERESY!!
Matthew 5:17-18
King James Version
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
حبيبي 💐 عش حياتك كما تحب لكن لاتنسي ان لهذا الكون خالق ابحث عنه وان لم تستطع معرفته عليك ان تكون سلام وحب للاخرين ان تصلح وتعمر الارض لتحقق مشيءه الله وهو سيكافأك حتي وان لم تعرفه فستكون ممن يعملون الخيرات والصالحات تحياتي 🌸💐🍎🍇
It is interesting to me that he talked about leaving the Christian religion. Yes, he still sounds/talks like one. That brainwashing goes deep.
Actually, there are examples of moral behavior in animals. But you point is well taken.
5:20 saw this video, young chimp at a zoo threw rocks at people. Mama chimp came over to smack him or her with a leafy tree branch. Some correction to behavior amongst animals.
Seems apparent the level of heroism and/or nefariousness fluctuations are brain-complexity based. That doesn’t refute a religion necessarily, just saying it isn’t so unique to humans
Let's face facts the bible says give to all those who ask, you will find a reason that I don't need it. If I hit you you will hit me back and repent. The devil is always forceful and strong who makes you do wrong against your will. The angels are always weak and passive begging you to do right. Anyone who seriously tries to be perfect is going to find out one thing and that is no matter what you do for Christ that it is NEVER ENOUGH.
I don't have what it it takes, but He gives me what it takes.
And the life I live, I live by faith in Christ Jesus, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Who saved me from my inability to reach perfection, thanks to Adam and Eve. Thanks to a God who didn't leave us with a broken world with no solution, but entered the problem itself and gave the solution. And that solution is Jesus Christ :)
Because outside of Him who is the way, the truth, and the life, there is no hope, no basis of morality, of good and evil, or of any form of perfection, which is beholding Him, the source of all good, from whom there is no shadow of turning.
Satan asks many questions about God, and Jesus is the answer to those questions that casts doubts.
Feel free to engage :)
Sin? What sin?
Sounds like you come from a calvinistic background..? Oh, and no the peace of God is nothing like anything in this world. I have used pain pills and tried to find peace through many other means, and there is nothing that compares.
Christians follow Paul not Jesus, so I'm just not sure about todays christianity anymore at all!
Oop lemme add this! 5:02
"Many people use the bible to judge others and never really use it to JUDGE THEMSELVES!" BOOM!! thats literally so many places, Matthew 7:1, Romans 2:1 or 3:1? Anyways, its ironic for many reasons bc ... JUST BC OKAY?! IM ABOUT TO SPAM SO DONT LEMME SAY MORE THAN I ALREADY WILL😭😭😭😭😭
Did you saw how happened to Pharoah?Luckily Jesus is god servant if not.
that is an interesting point of view but I can't agree with you on some of the things that you stated.
first off man cannot create something that will not eventually fade. life is but a brief and eventually your ideas eventually your ways and plans and all that purpose that you and someone else another man or a woman gave you will eventually die along side you. that's why I cannot agree with you on that statement. ensure from your point of view it is sad that I decided that I was going to allow a greater being to give me a purpose. but to me I rather trust someone that actually knows me then people that will no longer understand my heart.
second I do agree with you in certain points about how Christians act like hypocrites but I don't let that or what other people performance play a part in how I judge something or someone else. I focus on my relationship with that person sure I let other people's relationships give me a faint idea but I rather learn it firsthand cuz people might be Not What It Seems.
and lastly the Bible teaches that you must look into your heart the Bible reads you not the other way around. you should know this when you read the Bible you'll see certain things at the Bible calls us out on positions of our hearts how we think or perceive life it forces us to see that are nature is actively Wicked. and it's because of what Jesus taught but I become more and more comfortable looking inside myself and seeing yeah I have problems but now I know that I don't have to face him alone
and yes God is a choice he's not an obligation he's not going to force you in Jesus was saving us from ourselves
It's to be expected that most people who call themselves christian are lost. They have the outer appearence of christianiaty but they do not have Christ.
The real followers of the Lord Jesus are a minority and they do pray for people around them and share the gospel in good faith. They also live a life where they get sanctified more and more. But it's not them doing it but God doing it in them. And those people are hard to find even for a christian. Most churches and other places where believers go to can not be attended anymore because they all follow the ways of the world not the ways of the Lord.
If you follow christianity you follow men not God. To have faith in God and to have a relationship with him you don't need any religion or any denomination or cult or any group of people. It's a thing between you and God. If you have this relationship with the Lord you will be unable to leave. It won't be possible.
A believer will read in the bible that they are worth much more than they can even imagine. It's not about having a life that is just about being saved. Being saved is just the first step and you will be a new creature. Just being set free is worth so much.
So many people nowadays struggle with depression and thoughts of harming themselves or even want go a step further. They have no hope, no light and no real reason not to do it. Therapists can't really give them a reason not to do it, too. It's just some very shallow philosophy which is something like "don't do it because life's worth to be lived". But to be lived for what? To just be dust at the end and everything's over? Nothing you know, no one you know, not a single thing you think or anything you have now will stay. It will all be in vain just give it 100k years and if you were very famous maybe 1 million or even 1 billion years. It will be forgotten and no one will ever care about you or what you did anymore.
That is what it is to have no hope. But the bible says that God has made us to be in a relationship with him personally. That he is the light, the way and the truth. We can follow him and not be lost. We will be able to see things that we can't even imagine now and we can even see the glory of God in our lifetime if we follow him. We matter to God.
Your experience is mine
WHAT u really are asking about? Role of BIBLE. SPIRITUALITY is need of a human being. What type of Spirituality u are specific about?
Hey EZ...So you left. You mean Jesus is not Alive or the Bible is not what it claims to be?
I don't believe in Christ because he doesn't believe in reincarnation or law of karma . Law of karma prohibits concept of original sin. And Christianity proposes that god and its creation are different and in turn humans created in image of god. This is blatant dualist idea of god. That is false god. Law of karma states no individual can escape karma he must suffer for all the bad that he did and must enjoy for all the good . Hell and heaven doesn't exist. If you want to believe then its not a matter of concern because its a cycle. The individual is his ego , when ego is removed it is god. The one true god.
The New Testament gospels are not eyewitness accounts of Jesus. Mark Mathew Luke and John were not even written until the mid 2nd century to the third century. Learn some history. Christians read the Bible as literal history and that’s not what it is. It is a book of mostly mythological allegory and mythology in general. People did not live to be 600 years old nor did the human species start with Adam and Eve and Jesus was not born of a virgin either. It’s mythology. That’s all it is
You never once said that you had been born again. You focused on others as a false converts (which they sounded like from what you said) but you have not said that you were born again (becoming a new creature). Did that happen to you, or was your Christianity more of a logical decision, rather than a super natural experience? Thanks for sharing.
You raise a good point. I have not shared my testimony here yet in full. Perhaps that would help shed more light on my current perspectives. Thank you for the question. Long story short, I was saved at 7 years old while living in Africa. My dad was a pastor and my mom the music minister at the church we planted as missionaries. A time came after a Sunday service when my mom was playing piano and I confided in her; a secret. I told her I felt that I was missing out. Like everyone else had something I wanted to have too but wasn’t sure how or what it was. She told me it was Jesus and walked me through the sinners prayer. She or we told my dad and then I walked down the aisle the next service to profess my faith in front of the congregation and get baptized. Through much turmoil and several years later, I was 14 and in America at a church camp where I felt called to recommit my life to Christ. Again, I walked down the aisle and with tears flooding my eyes, I reconnected through a pastor’s guidance with hundreds of kids next to me. I went further and deeper and became obsessed with living the way the New Testament describes Christians. In college I founded a small group that grew to be huge and influential in our college. Church leaders came and tried to take control of it but our purpose was specifically not associated with a church as they had tried and failed to reach this community before. During this time I was doing street ministry with very anointed people and I too learned how to speak miracles over people and observe their lives get changed in one way or another. It was only after moving to California with that same fervor and getting burned by church after church that I began to question my long term views. Having a close relationship with someone who is gay was also problematic as I believed they were going to hell based on scripture. So I slowly withdrew from these communities and then started questioning my depression… what if I wasn’t inherently evil? What if my heart wasn’t full of deceit the way the Bible teaches? What if the saving blood of Jesus has always been a cover up and proxy for me to gain value without ever believing I have value of my own? These questions toppled my faith at the time and I slowly began to understand the greater purpose of Christianity as a path and frame of mind rather than the reality we all share. I hope this helps. Let me know if you think this comment should be a video of its own.
I will admit that I only watched your one video that TH-cam showed me. I didn't know that you had a whole channel devoted to this, so you most likely have shared that story before and I had not seen it. I am sorry that you no longer seek the Lord. I do wonder what people with Bible knowledge make of all of the prophesies that are clearly lining up with todays world though, with Israel impossibly becoming a nation in the last 75 years, if the Bible is true (and it is), the end is very near.
@@ezekielgentle
So, because a majority of Christians don't live like Christ, you turned away from Jesus? That makes no sense.
So being a child of God is not good enough? XD
Yes. I saw Christianity as a way to become more than l was but Christianity only held me back.
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So it sounds like youre talking about apostasy and assume thats the root of christianity... the scripture by jesus and other apostles in the sceipture admonishing the church to not just hear the word but do what it says, that those who hear but dont do are like houses built on sand... your critique isnt against God friend, its against rebellion and blasphemy among those who call his name (which in that sense, you are right to not fellowship with those who do such, the word commends you there again)
I am a bit confused with your decision?? ......... If human do not a bide with God law, WHY you blame God?? You should blame men, not God!! .......... Unless, you have problem with the Bible/Scriptures as the based of Christianity then you should blame the Scriptures and NOT God! .......... No way God left human WITHOUT manual! Keep looking for that manual!!!
Small tip for you: the easiest way to know which "manual", just look for a manual which claimed this is from God!
christianity create the problem (sin), the punishment (hell) and the solution (jesus). Then as with an abusive relationship tell you that your nothing , not worthy of anything good, and is doomed to an after life of hell unless you accept their teachings and their savior "who loves you" and will keep you from going to their hell.
This is incredibly apt and I’ve never thought of it this way. I got caught up by the “problem of evil” and CS Lewis’ explanation of it. But even within that framework, to your point, the implicit problem is humanity itself- not the CHOICE to do evil deeds. I guess this brings up pre-destination as well.
You are speaking in generalizations of what Christianity is in the west. The church that I am a part of has completely dedicated believers who are Bible believing and Bible obeying children of God. As far as I can say, they are non compromising and given to prayer and the study of the Word of God, The Holy Bible. Praise and worship are part of their devotion to The Lord Jesus. But YOU "don't have time for this anymore"? You are looking around at the hypocrisy of others, but what about YOUR walk with Jesus? What happened to your love for Him? If you are in Christ why have you embraced new age philosophy then? It would seem to me that you abandoned the faith in The Lord Jesus and His salvation for You because of strictly your discontentment with your life in Him.
Jesus is Lord
Leaving Christianity because of other people is, well, dumb?
Are there hypocrites? Yup.
But go back to 1 Corinthians 15. If it's not historically true, then leave Christianity.
I have one honest question; do you know for a fact that there is no God and Jesus is not the Messiah? I am not asking if you personally believe this, but rather, do you know for a fact. My point being, if you don't know for a fact, you are playing a VERY dangerous game? Because, IF Jesus is the Christ, and IF there is going to be a Judgement Day, you will be in big trouble. I really don't want a response from you, because you will, of course, play to your subscribers. I just would hope you would think this through. There have a been a lot of really intelligent scientists who believed in God (Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Max Planck etc) I am just saying, eternity is a long, long time. There will be no way out IF you are wrong and fail to come to Christ for the forgiveness of your sin. I know you said you were a Christian for a time, but I really question if you were born-again: filled with God's Holy Spirit. The Bible says in 1st John 2:19, " They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."
We are talking about the ETERNAL, ALL-POWERFUL, CREATOR of the universe. Who says, "Can the gods of the other nations (religions) tell you the future? No! They are mere lifeless idols." But I..." and then He proceeds to give us over one thousand prophecies in the Bible to demonstrate that God's word can be trusted.
The Bible in the Old Testament predicted the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah; Jesus was. The Bible predicted the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem; Jesus was. The Bible predicted the Messiah would be called a Nazarene; Jesus grew up in Nazareth. The Bible said the Messiah would be rejected by His own people; most Jews rejected Christ. The Bible said the Messiah would have his hands and feet pierced; it happened to Christ on the cross. (Do you think Jesus or his followers made this happen to fulfill prophecy, NO Rome decided how He would die) The Bible said the Messiah would be given vinegar; Jesus was given vinegar when He was hanging on the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would be buried in a rich man's tomb; Jesus was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea, who was very rich. The Bible said the Messiah would die a criminal's death; Jesus was crucified between two criminals. The Bible said The Messiah would NOT have any broken bones; it was customary for crucified individuals to have their bones broken to hasten death, but when they came to Jesus, He was already dead. The Bible said the Messiah would be despised; the mobs spit on Jesus and mocked Him on the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would be a light unto the Gentiles (non-Jews) the Jews, by and large do NOT believe in Jesus, it is Gentiles (non-Jews) around the world who worship the Jewish Messiah, Jesus. The Bible says Jerusalem "...kills the prophets." While Jesus was much more than just a prophet, He was killed in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be from the lineage of King David; Jesus was. The Bible said the Messiah would be called from Egypt; the parents of the infant Jesus, took Him to Egypt, until they were told they could bring Him back; the King who wanted to kill Him had himself died. The Bible said the Messiah would have people gamble for His clothes; the soldiers at the crucifixion gambled for Jesus' cloak. The Bible said the Messiah would bring in a new covenant; Jesus did. His death on the cross, once for all did away with the need for the slaughtering of lambs at the Jewish temple. The Bible said the Messiah would come 483 years AFTER the decree to re-build the temple; Jesus made His triumphant entry into Jerusalem on the very day as predicted. The Bible said the Messiah would suffer; Jesus was beaten, had his beard ripped out of His face, and was brutally nailed to the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would be a prophet; Jesus predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would come riding on a donkey; Jesus did. The Bible said the Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver; Judas Iscariot was given 30 pieces of silver for betraying Jesus. The Bible said the Messiah would be a willing sacrifice; Jesus willingly went to the cross, and even predicted His death in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be proceeded by a messenger; Jesus was heralded by John the Baptist. The Bible said the Messiah would be descended from Abraham; Jesus was a descendant of Abraham. The Bible said the Messiah would be lifted up; Jesus was lifted up on the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would perform signs of healing; Jesus did. There are literally three HUNDRED prophecies fulfilled by Jesus.
He also adds over one hundred scientific facts in scripture in all fields of science that were written down, thousands of years BEFORE the great scientists of the world would discover them. For example, up to a few hundred years ago surgeons used to wash their hands in basins of water, until they discovered it became a bowl of germs. They started using running water. The Bible instructed the use of running water thousands of years earlier. Soldiers used to die from disease, until they finally figured out to do their toilet business outside the camp. The Bible thousands of years before this, instructed the Israeli soldiers to take a small shovel outside the camp and bury their waste. Doctors used to drain blood (blood-letting) from sick patients, but thousands of years ago the Bible said, the life is in the blood. It wasn't until a couple hundred years ago, that oceanographers discovered mountains rising off the ocean floor, but the Bible thousands of years ago spoke of these mountains. The Bible says, "It is God who spreads out the stars." Astrophysicists now say the very fabric of space is spreading out taking the galaxies along for the ride. Up until about five hundred years ago, astronomers thought there was about 4,000-5,000 stars. But the Bible in Genesis compares the number of stars to the grains of sand along the seashore. Astronomers now say there are at least twice as many stars as sand on all the beaches of the world. Albert Einstein in his paper on relativity stated that matter, energy, space and time itself all had a beginning. But thousands of years earlier in Genesis chapter one the Bible says, "In the beginning (a reference to time having a beginning) God created the earth (matter) the heavens (space) and said let there be light (energy). I don't want to make this so long people won't read it, but you can go any Christian bookstore and find books on the hundreds and hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, in the Bible. There were 256 totally fulfilled prophecies concerning the birth, life, ministry, and death of Christ alone. So, God in HIS word has told of science thousands of years in advance of it being discovered by the great scientific minds of the world, He has spoken prophetic utterances that have come true, over and over again, in a literal, not metaphorical sense, again, to demonstrate His authority. He is God, we are His creation. This is His world, His universe. He is sovereign. Look, it's a great deal; surrender to His only means of forgiving our sins and reconciling ourselves to HIM, Christ dying on the cross, and reap eternal life, eternal peace, eternal health, and eternal joy. OR reject His offer of pardon and receive your just punishment. I choose Jesus Christ.
You dont have to watch this video here the resumé ! Im stupid ! I never be honest to myself ,i passed through thing like any body and im still wrong thinking so God must be the fault ! not me or my logic god is to blame here so i create a new god, me ! And now i can teach you how to be stupid like me it feel good to have worshipers. God is to simple he ask you to repent to see yourself as deserving to be dead for your wrong doing and regret and ask to paid the price for you on the cross . BANG ! the miracle happen !
So now you are into Marianne Williamson New Thought nonsense? Wow.
Your problem is with people, not with God❤
Jesus Christ…how narcissistic can you possibly be? To diagnose where you think this dude went wrong in his experience with the supernatural…in one sentence. Then have the passive aggressive audacity and lack of self awareness to leave a heart. Absolutely amazing.
Hi, are you afraid of going to Hell when you die? Thank you
Considering he left his faith probably not xd
So you're taking on the devil by yourself
the answer is because of sxual s1n.
Ok. Stop having sex and stop having kids. If sex is sinful
To the so-called saved, the unsaved are going to hell, Christ isn't on their side when they sin. But when a believer sins, christ got their backs... go figure?
Christianity is a lie and Jesus is not or wasn't who you think he is or was
When you really come to Christ you won't leave him
Saved from our sins. That was Christ's atonement on the cross for us. I hope you will one day find the TRUE gospel of Christ. Apparently, and please forgive me, you haven't. I feel you have been deceived by a false Christian religion that number in the hundreds of thousands worldwide and that is why you left. All of which are completely demonic and unbiblical. True churches and Christians in the body of Christ DO practice what the bible teaches. Only a very small handful exist today.
Why is that I wonder?
@@bloodybonescomic That's the job of Satan and his demonic entities, leading as many as they could astray.
None exist today. The Bible was never intended to be the harmonized Word of God and the fact it's used that way is disgraceful. Christianity only took off because it's actually easy to misunderstand the message of the books on any one topic so there are divergent views on Scripture and the issues with it being an imperfect product of men. That is the only reason it is so big due to the wide umbrella. Anyone who says differently is lying. Hopefully, you will learn and recognize there is no One Unified message of the Bible. As such, it's something to consider but it has no authority.
@@razorbeard6970 You need to repent my brother and come out of the world. You are so far from the truth.
@@davidcheung7789 Your response and also your statement of belief that Satan is the deceiver and creature of evil shows how far you are from the truth of even the system you purport to believe in. God is the author of all things, God is sovereign, God is not solely in the business of what is considered good by human standards. God doesn't need Satan.
Fool
Raca?
Talking about yourself?
My g, The Creator Is Real. Love to you for leaving the false faith, idolatry.
The Most Gracious Creator Is Your Lord. Come To The Path Of Him. Come To The Submission To Him, and Him alone. Islam is the Faith of all of the Apostles, including Adam, Abraham, Jesus and Moses and Muhammad. They are all the Prophets and Messengers Of The Most High, All Mighty Creator. Become a Muslim, Read the Quran in English. May The Creator Guide you Towards The Path Of Peace, and Eternal Peace.
It's just a bunch of silly Jewish nonsense.
if that's a valid response, then here's my response to the bible:
It's just a bunch of silly Christian nonsense.
Because your evil, part one..
Please give me your discord, and let us discuss, g.