Is the Orient Kamasu the BEST Affordable Diver or All Hype?
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- Is the Orient Kamasu the BEST Affordable Diver or All Hype? on the JustBlueFish TH-cam channel, home of high quality wristwatch and horology related reviews and videos.
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Today we're looking at the Rolex Orient Kamasu and answering the question, is it the best affordable diver or is it all hype?.
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Sapphire crystal is a great deal esp for established watch brands. Most Seiko much higher-price auto diver's watches do not even willing to provide sapphire crystal. Kamasu beats legendary SKX hands down, even beating most Seiko higher range auto diver's.
I have both the Ray II (blue) and Kamasu (green/teal). This review is a very accurate assessment of the two watches. My Ray II is the first modern mechanical watch I purchased when I started collecting. (I have plenty of quartz watches.) Unless a person is on a tight budget, I would recommend the Kamasu over the Ray II. The superior bezel and sapphire crystal would be enough for me to justify the higher price. I also greatly prefer having a complete set of minute marking on the bezel.
Thanks for watching buddy!
My wife bought me a red Kamasu for Valentines day this year. I truly enjoy wearing it, and probably wear it more than I should based on the other pieces I have.
She’s a keeper!
@@JustBlueFish Thanks and yeah she is. The first think I did was order a couple straps for it and never wore in on a bracelet. My wife then upped her game by getting me a Nodus Retrospect III salmon dial for our anniversary.
Always enjoy your reviews 👍
Planning on getting this watch soon. thank you for the review!
Thanks buddy!
I have my blue dial Kamasu for a year, and simply is a great and robust watch. Dial with indices looks like it is from a 2000$ watch, and under macro is immaculate. The movement F6922 actually has a chronometer accuracy, but with a caveat. Mine Kamasu was delivered with a faulty mainspring barell which made watch go +60 s/d when on arm. I activated the warranty, and they fixed the issue, I payed addional ca. 20$ for the watch to be fine regulated, and now it runs +2 s/d under all conditions. The thing is that the movement in the factory is regulated by setting the arm to a default position, without any further fine regulation. But the positional error is less than 10 s/d for the worst case, and isochronism is negligable. Thus, after fine manual regulation, the Kamasu is running extremely accurate, whic is remarkable for that price range.
A Strapcode addition as I and many others have done makes it a reference at the price point. Great review.
Thanks buddy!
I've had my green Orient Komatsu now for a little over a year and I am super rough on watches and there's not a scratch on the case, bezel or crystal, And I have banged it all over stuff. There are just a few scratches on the band. I just love this watch. It keeps almost accurate time. I have to adjust it maybe once a month about three minutes back. Also the color on this watch when it hits the light is phenomenal.
That’s good to know I just bought this in blue. I deliver for Amazon and need lume that lasts 3/hrs past sunset. Knowing it’s sapphire and that you’ve tested it makes me feel I made the right choice. I was going to get a Pagani or San Martin but this being a trusted brand with sapphire sealed the deal for me. My first automatic watch and I’ve heard you can break the movement if you set watch at the wrong time?
@@greg6162 Hey, how do you like your orient kamasu?. Yes, becareful setting the date. I always put the hands at 6am.... Than do what i have to. I just recieved two days ago the orient kamasu limited edition. Red burgundy. Love it!. I got # 1,895 out of 2,000 made...
On the product info it’s saying that is mineral Glas not Saphire one is that right.?
I have this watch in the blue dial and pepsi bezel. I absolutely love it. The way the light hits that dial is breathtaking.
I was digging the maroon one but this black color is stunning too!
You can’t go wrong with a black dial.
Orient is an heroical brand! Nobody gives so much for every buck you got!!. Thank you!!!
Saludos!
Thanks for watching!
I own the Ray II in blue and the Kamasu in red. They're easily two of my favorite watches, and for many people, could be the only watches they'd need to make them very happy. I very much agree with your assessment and comments, but I will say that after enjoying the Kamasu on wrist for a short while, I forgot any negatives! Thanks for a great vid!
Same here. Ray II in blue and Kamasu in red. I love both watches. I definitely prefer the Kamasu but the Ray is great as well.
I just picked up the new vintage inspired Kamasu variant with the blue green dial. I got a great deal with a cashback discount on my Discover card for a total of $151. I found an orange Ray 2 for the past year and simply love it. I have no doubt that this new Kamasu will be vying for top billing in my rotation.
Great review of an awesome watch. The price fluctuates pretty wildly. I grabbed the red version off amazon for around $240, and a week later it was $25 bucks less (from a different seller). Oh well, still a great price for a great looking piece. If only it had solid end links.....
Nice watch... Thanks!!
Great video - touched on all the important aspects of this watch. You have to really like this dial and hands more than the Ray2\Mako2 to justify the extra costs. Plus Kamasu comes in dial colors not seen on those watches. Someone could upgrade crystal themselves on Ray2\Mako2 and still pay less than Kamasu. The Orient Kano costs less and is also a great watch with similar indices and hands but no sapphire and is larger at 44mm
I have the blue Ray 2 and green Kamasu on a strap code bracelet, I love both of them.
This Kamasu is great don’t get me wrong. But the Ray 2 is such a good value it’s hard to not compare this to it.
@@JustBlueFish Which is why I own multi versions of both.
Looks like after switching the model numbering to RA-/RN- and adding its own name on the casebacks, Epson really started the true Orient's revival. They also upgraded all their non-Tristar mechs to F6x22 movements which are on par with, if not more accurate than Seiko's 4R3x/NH3x. On Tristars, they finally made their dials quite pleasant to look at. Orient now vs. Orient even 5 years ago look like two completely different brands. And I like what it is now.
Its something in this watch that's make me fill like I want to have it, proportions, classy and tool looking at once. I have few watches already and kamasu will soon join company. Also Ray 2 with round looks like fine watch maybe both of them...
I have the green kamasu on a strapcode super j I love it.
Love your reviews. Outstanding quality video and very good analysis! I'm rocking the G shock 5600E as my sporty watch, but otherwise would have considered this one. Saving for the Explorer 1. Damn this watch obsession
5600 is one of my all time favorite watches!
@@JustBlueFish I love it. It can be all the watch you need. I use mine for outdoor things and the F91W is my daily. Both great watches
Great watch for little money. The green version with a brown leather strap is killer
I find this watch attractive. Now that the SKX has been discontinued, the Kamasu makes a lot of since for the price.
Great video. I would rather spend the extra cash and get the Mini Neptune
I totally agree with you on this review. I'm glad that they put in a sapphire crystal, but it's soooo reflective that I ended up buying a double domed sapphire crystal with AR coating to help with that issue! But overall I really like the Kamasu. I used to have a ray 2 raven and this seems more fitting to me! Both are great watches though!
On the product info it’s saying that is mineral Glas not Saphire one is that right.?
@@Success_is_inevitable that's correct. However, the kamasu 2 does have a sapphire crystal!
@@DD-ix3bm unfortunately in Germany I can’t find it with Saphire, only with mineral. But thanks for answering
I purchased mine from Jomashop for $209. I purchased a very nice Jubilee bracelet with specially fitted (solid)endlinks for the Kamasu (with a milled clasp) for $39 off of Amazon. I wear it regularly and it has become one of my favorite watches. I also on the Ray II. The Kamasu has incredible lume which I think you failed to really point out. My only knock on the design is the same thing that I find on many of the orient Diver lines. The crowns are far too small! Thanks for the review.
I showed the lume. It is great.
Among Orient divers the Kamasu is the most elegant one. If you get the burgundy or green one maybe it is the biggest upgrade to the Ray or Mako models. I have the green one and paying extra money on that wonderful color is just worth it.
thanks for the video. about a year ago i was looking for a beater watch and was considering the ray, mako or kamasu. ended up with the mako because of the numerals on the dial. i don't hink there is wrong answer here. the non-sapphire crystal is not a bige deal, i abuse this watch at the gym and at work and do not have any scatches on the dial.....the bracelet and clasp do suck though.
I have the burgendy/wine model. The only thing that let's it down - which is not mentioned in you review - is the crown winder. It's ridiculously undersized and if you're not very careful to make sure it's fully screwed in could lead to disaster if underwater. Other than that it's a great watch.
I got the blue dial and switched out the shyte band for one from Long Island Watch. Can’t imagine a better diver at anywhere near this price point, even with the extra $75 I spent on band replacement.
I prefer the look of the Orient Kano over this, but unfortunately that one is a bit too large at 44mm.
Ya the Kano is nice but a bit big for me.
its a a nice watch for the price.. my fav it the red dial version.... cheers
I thought about getting the red, but a black dial diver is classic.
@@JustBlueFish u cannot go wrong with a black dial
Would like to see an upgraded Mako version with 6-9-12 Arabic markers I already own 2 Kamasu 1 black and 1 blue might buy a red if the price comes down. Yes indeed Orient needs to put bigger crowns on their dive watches. I have a love a love hate relationship with Orient they usually have one or two simple design shortcomings which keep the watches from being nearly perfect.
Good point on the crown. It works but could be bigger and have been texture.
all is top quality on your videos. why youtube is not giving you same impressions like suppose to other top vloggers is a question. Unfairness
Wow, thank you!
This watch looks very good. I will probably buy them to add to my "collection". ( Casio G-shock, Citizen eco-drive, Seiko 5 sports.. ). I think Orient will be a king of the pack 😎 For that price I get a piece of quality equipment. Tank you for video.
Just bought a Seiko Samurai Pepsi JDM this Orient will be next but in red...
In general I like the Kamasu. What bother me most are the hollow end links. Those put me off quite a litte. Of course I could invest in a Strapcode bracelet, but for the price of the watch and the bracelet together there is a ton of microbrand watch, which have better specs and look just as good.
three and six-quarter inch wrist? XD heheh that made my day!
I agree that it is a 60% increase in price, but we were starting with a very low price to begin with. So, it is still a bargain.
The Kamasu can also be regarded as a next gen, slightly down spec Mako USA 2. I've owned the Mako 2, USA 2 and the Triton.... They're all great and I figure this Kamasu is too. However, apart from the Triton, they all lack a 'Diver's' rating and fat spring bars.... Something to note for the spec boffins.
I cannot confirm but I have read that there is AR on the crystal.
Well done, as always! Your comment on the lume made me wonder if doing a spectroscopic analysis of the light could tell you which lume is used..
(Humor: I didn’t know your wrist is so small: “3 and 6 quarter inches”. I probably would have said 4 1/2 inches, but to each his own!).
Hmmmm, shoulda said 6 and 3/4. Not sure what happened there.
I have an orange dial Orient Mako gen one (date pusher at 2 o'clock) that I picked up somewhere along the way 4 or 5 years ago. The lume is remarkable; absolutely better and brighter than any Seiko I've had. To my eyes it looks like the lume could be the same stuff... but definitely applied mo' better and mo' thicker. Perhaps this beautiful Komatsu is lumed the same way?
please help me decide between the dial colors...marron or black
The crown on my Kamasu broke, and it was hell trying to get it fixed in the NYC area.
Watchmakers just didn't want to touch it, and apparently Orient doesn't make its parts easily accessible in North America.
It's a beautiful watch, but because of the lack of servicing options, I don't recommend it.
Thanks for making this video. i just ordered my Kamasu from your Amazon link.
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks!
On the product info it’s saying that is mineral Glas not Saphire one is that right.?
I’d love to see Orient make a Kamasu with a white, cream or champagne dial….
This is one of those watches that looks amazing on video and pictures, but is a bit disappointing in person. The yellow lume is the dealbreaker for me. I sold mine after 4 months
New subscriber here! 🤚 Is the dial annoyingly glassy or too shiny? I hate sunburn dials, so I tend to go for matte dials, however, this orient looks amazing in the video.
thanks for watching! I don't find the dial too shiny it's great.
5:41 - 3 and 6/4 inches is a kind of math I’ve not heard of before. 😂
It's smooth brain math!
@@JustBlueFish Seriously though, I appreciate it because my wrist is the same size, so...thanks for that!
Can you go casual swimming with the orient kamasu? Ive gone swimming with my orient kamasu and forget to screw down the crown.. is it still fine? Or does the water could potentially get in. (Swimming dept is around 1.5 meters)
Which Orients are MIJ? This seems to have ambiguous signage about this on the watch itself so I'm assuming it was cased in Korea, China, or Singapore.
Always weird seeing "Epson" on a watch caseback. They should omit that. Nobody cares who the parent company is, especially when the name is more closely associated with printers than timepieces.
It's a Japanese thing. Omitting it would show no honour to the parent company and that's a "no no" in Japanese society.
It's sure they could talk something out, but for that to happen it needs at least one of two things:
-Public pressure (which will never happen)
-CEOs not afraid to ask for it and armed with non-insulting arguments (which will not happen either)
I like it.
I care who the parent company is. And I know I'm not the only one. It's part of the product's heritage. Keep your narrow-minded opinion to yourself. Oh, this is the internet and you are allowed to say whatever you want? Well so can I.
@@darthgiggity7948 Gettin' kinda worked up there, Darth. I hear deep breathing exercises can help.
I have owned a red one since it first came out. Negatives, bezel action isn't great, crown is a little small, and the bracelet+clasp aren't great. Positives, fits the wrist brilliantly, good lume, good movement. Put a Strapcode bracelet on it and it feels so much better, but this turns a $270 watch into $360 watch. There are some very good micro brands at similar prices that will come close.
Orient should just make watches without bands put them in a smaller box and knock $20 off the price.
@@robc8468 Alternatively, put a decent clasp and solid end links on the existing bracelet, and charge 20 dollars more😁
Hi JustBlueFish, Why are none of these Kamasu reviews trying it on different straps? :)
Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m just lazy haha. It’s like adding more work to a process that already takes me many, many hours.
I find no mention of the crown... My experience is that it's too small offering little purchase and also difficult to screw back on.. Rest of the video is spot on
It’s definitely not an oversized crown like on some divers, which I do prefer, but I didn’t find much of an issue with it on this one.
@@JustBlueFish Maybe I am clumsy 😀
What does the watch weigh?
1 kamasu in green...
Or 1 bambino+ Orient mako ii for almost the same price?
since when we're not calling that an oyster bracelet?
Interesting to listen to a watch "critic."
I've been collecting Japanese classical guitars for several years and they cam be made from woods from the same tree and be totally different. Compound that with international treaties since 1991 that prohibit export of endangered wood species, especially from 1000 year old trees from the Amazon and African ebony and you have tricky featires for choosy collectors to consider. Old wood guitars vibrate differently than guitars built from 20 year-old farmed woods. In comparison to the watch market, guitars, violins, guitars and other organic collectibles are night and day from watches where reviewers trot out identical features and benefits. I see watch collectors as merely consumers of mass produced products and not discerning analyzers of art and mastery of craft like fine artists and makers of one-off pieces, even if they have been categorized in a class as a Ramirez 1a or Nobe 50.
I don't know, but I just bought my red Kamasu from Japan, $196, and it is being called Mako 3 Kamasu ...
Your wrist is 3 6/4 inches?
Odd that the bezel action and sapphire are very good upgrades over the Ray 2 but somehow you still expect a $80+ dollar bracelet on it as well?
The watch itself if punching way way up.. if you get a strapcode super O on this you would have a watch that looks and feels like $1000..
Get the one that comes with a rubber bracelet so you say my money and buy the new bracelet and you'll get it all together for around 250
@@olegb5061 thanks for that man, I’m actually about to pull the trigger on a blue dial/bezel Kamasu but was planning to upgrade later on. I’ll check it out
@@Counz223 Yep, I've seen a blue dial one with a rubber strap for around 175 on some places right now so pretty good deal
Sometimes I feel like the only person who likes hollow end links. Solid end links add weight to the watch.
5:44 "My wrist is three and six quarter inch" ??? - I think the author meant to say six and three quarter inch.
My thought if wanting blue or black I'd probably just get a RayII, If wanting one of the new cool colors the Kamasu has some cool options.
I prefer my Ray II because of the round indices, but I did add a sapphire AR crystal. I also added a con edge bezel with a ceramic Bat Man insert, then added a Uncle Seiko
Razor wire bracelet. Will always stay in my small collection. Thanks Guy
A bezel upgrade would be a great addition. This one is ok but I don’t love the edge.
@@JustBlueFish I didn’t either that’s why I replaced it
The bezel is a 60 click. Not 120.
I like the watch not love the watch. The bezel doesn't line up and it keeps the worst time of all my watches including twenty Vostoks.. The dial and hands are very well finished even under macro...
20 Vostoks WOW-you must really like Scuba 🤿 dude 😄!
Twenty Vostok!!! Damn I turned you into a monster Derek.
@@JustBlueFish. Yup and thank you. Good thing l didn't win an Omega. Lol
@@underachievingwatchcollect1878. I only have two ScubaDude's... For now. Lol
Your wrist is "three and six quarters inches" in circumference? 😮 😂
Doing 22mm width bracelet is a big design flaw. They lost me because of this and the "water resist" text, just looks way too cheap.
i wouldn't buy ray 2 or mako because I think they're ugly, but this one i like, so its worth it to me.
For the people they they forgot the day?......oh!my god they put the day of the week(alzheimer ....customers
The harmony of the dial.....day...date....and maybe the year.....
“My wrist is 3 and 6 quarter inches in circumference . . . . “
yeah it's a very unique measurement.
Your wrist size is 3-6/4"?????? I think dyslexia got the better of you there.
This watch is boring and quality is just ok. Really pale vs my blue Triton.
The lack of: sapphire crystal, a decent lume, something similar to the Rolex glide lock - make this watch not worth my money.
this has a sapphire crystal and a great lume..... tf
WTF ???
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Just bought a kamasu for less than 200, good buy I think. ORIENTKamasu Automatic Black Dial Men's WatchRA-AA0005B19B
10mins of holding a watch! Well that sucked well done...
I got the blue dial and switched out the shyte band for one from Long Island Watch. Can’t imagine a better diver at anywhere near this price point, even with the extra $75 I spent on band replacement.