Tudor Black Bay 58 Navy Blue Vs Black (Fifty-Eight BB58 M79030N Vs M79030B)

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  • @pww6581
    @pww6581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I’ve tried both and whilst the blue is a great watch, it was the black and gold that did it for me. Can’t believe I own one but still gotta watch videos about it. Thanks for uploading this video.

  • @wengjai
    @wengjai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’ve owned both and the blue in person is nicer for me. Depending on the environment you will get a different shade of blue. It looks exceptionally beautiful in the sun. The black on the other hand had a bit too much gilt. If you like a very old vintage looking watch than black is the way to go.

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they had gone with white bezel markers and pencil hands
      If they did this nobody would buy the submariner though lmao

  • @DonFrankos
    @DonFrankos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Blue!
    The black wins on video's and photo's, but the blue in real life has a level of depth to it which just doesn't really comes across on video. Sometimes I think mine looks almost black, really versatile. Gorgeous thing!
    Black is amazing, too. can't go wrong with both

    • @kevinturner5544
      @kevinturner5544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I totally agree, at a certain angle it definitely looks black. Who knows, maybe someday? But I wear the Blue everyday and absolutely love it!

  • @zevongrie1402
    @zevongrie1402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You really can’t go wrong either way. I bought the black one but intend on buying the blue one as well. The black one just really caught my eye. And it is even more stunning in the sunlight. The blue one just has a different vibe to it to me, maybe a bit more casual?
    This is a choice that is win-win either way.

  • @thomasf1531
    @thomasf1531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I prefer the black version. The blue one just doesn't grab me in the same way and seems to be lacking something; it might be the warming charm the black version has with the gilt - I absolutely love it. If I were to go for a blue watch I'd go for the Omega Seamaster 300.

    • @user-do8ef4np7q
      @user-do8ef4np7q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought that too... but i had the black and sold it due to the fake vintage look... I tried the blue one some days ago and its stunning just as much as the black but in a different way. It's a beautiful modern watch

    • @jimerinrose6235
      @jimerinrose6235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve also grown to like the blue better, sold off the black/gold. It’s a Really pretty blue in person and the stainless case/band is also brighter. On the black one The gold color on the hands/markers looked off to me?

    • @M4NA5
      @M4NA5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did the opposite- I have blue bay 58 and a black seamaster 300. Love them both.

  • @jongwlee62
    @jongwlee62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have both also. Not many people know about this, but the blue version steel color is lighter and works well with the blue color by giving it a "cleaner" look.

    • @kgroth
      @kgroth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He actually says that in this video :) But I love that Tudor has done this. It shows attention to detail.

    • @jongwlee62
      @jongwlee62 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kgroth I am not sure whether the video mentions this, but the shape of the crystal is different. The blue has a more pronounced dome shape and black is flatter. You can see more distortions on the blue crystal.

  • @JiTamp
    @JiTamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Both are the same watch. Having the black BB58 since two years ago, I don't have any interest to get the blue version everytime my Rolex Boutique offers me one even though I've tried it on the wrist. The black version is more versatile IMHO but you can't go wrong with either one. Great episode, cheers.

  • @chriszivoder2650
    @chriszivoder2650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video btw. I own the blue version which is just stunning in the flesh. I can't praise the watch enough, the quality is outstanding. Have you watched the Timeless Watch Channel on the BB58 blue? he talks about how the silver snowflake hands reflect the light beautifully and I can see his point. It's something you get from the blue version which is a great attribute. Love the black version too though, can't go wrong with either watch.

  • @diegom.8773
    @diegom.8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    🙋🏻‍♂️ blue with bracelet and brown leather strap 💪🏻💙

  • @andywilliams4887
    @andywilliams4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Update from an earlier post: I'm very lucky to have recently bought brand new BB58 Black/Gilt and the Navy Blue versions. In fact I bought the blue first in early Nov 21 and I'm so delighted with it, but I still hankered for the black for its warmer, more vintage personality and I picked it up one last week in late Dec 21. Both are stunning and while identical in specs etc, they do have very different characters. They now share wrist time with one another and my classic 2002 Rolex 16610 Submariner Date - which is still the king IMHO before anyone asks. But you cannot argue with the Tudor BB58's sheer quality, accuracy and overall class at barely 40% of a current steel Sub's retail price - if you could actually get one that is!

  • @simon120166
    @simon120166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    BLUE for me but both are great looking watches..

  • @daverichards1337
    @daverichards1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just purchased the BB58 Blue a couple weeks ago and now you got me thinking that I should have gone for both haha Great decision by you!

  • @volpiguitar
    @volpiguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you live in Switzerland it doesn't matter. Both watches/ brands are great and in the same house. And service is great. Greetz from Lucerne, Switzerland, Victor

  • @bongpal6730
    @bongpal6730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both. I’m 52. The black one has the classic, sporty, and elegant feel. The blue one gives a sporty, youthful, and casual feel. I’m keeping both. If I must keep just one piece though, it would be the black. It has more depth and versatility.

  • @tonytrinidad5294
    @tonytrinidad5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the Black but flipped it for the BLUE. It's just so clean with more of a modern twist. That being said, I missed the Black and gilt but opted for the Oris Diver 65 with bronze. Great watch as well and 1/2 the price pre-owned.

    • @chriscon8463
      @chriscon8463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just bought the blue. It’s really beautiful! How does the Oris compare in quality? I was considering one, but figured I should just go all in with the Tudor!

    • @OneLordeAnimeClips
      @OneLordeAnimeClips ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriscon8463
      ​Oris typically competes at a lower price segment than Tudor, with companies like Longines, Tag Heuer, Rado, Nomos, Sinn etc.
      Whereas Tudor typically aims for competing in a slightly more "premium" price segment with brands like Breitling, Omega, Cartier, Zenith, etc.
      In terms of finishing quality, a lot of brands in the Oris range punch much higher than their weight though.

  • @andywilliams4887
    @andywilliams4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I very recently bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue to compliment a range of predominantly black-dialled watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 that I've cherished for 19 yrs. The Tudor is a super, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and aluminium bezel compared to the 'bling-blue' ceramic of my Omega Seamaster 300. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. The blue really pops in daylight or in well-lit rooms and a pleasure to wear. Although not quite up there with the Rolex in the absolute quality stakes - but why should it be when barely 40% of the retail price - go to an AD and try one on. In-house COSC certified movement, 70 hrs power reserve.... you won't be disappointed.

    • @fredtafel
      @fredtafel ปีที่แล้ว

      You just copy paste the same exact commentary on all BB58 videos 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @MrJosev27
      @MrJosev27 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredtafel yea, da fucks wrong with this guy.

  • @manuel_winde
    @manuel_winde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I prefer the blue as Tudor have a bit of heritage with that colour on dive watches and there are so many other black dial watches.

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s ok to like the boring version. I mean you’re entitled to your opinion, and in the end it’s all subjective so there is no right or wrong, even if you prefer the boring version. These things are very personal and relative, so we can’t judge you or say anything definite about your poor choice. What I’m trying to say is that you have absolutely every right to choose the boring version.

    • @manuel_winde
      @manuel_winde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kencur9690 prick.

    • @zenodio3D
      @zenodio3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kencur9690 as opposed to the incredibly exciting black version?
      Alright dude.

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zenodio3D Uhm, yeah it's much more exciting. Are you seriously going to say that a plain blue version is more exciting than a black one with gold gilt?
      "Alright dude."

    • @zenodio3D
      @zenodio3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kencur9690 holy shit hahaha.

  • @jeanlefranc3817
    @jeanlefranc3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Strong appreciation for the Rolex Submariner 6536 but let’s be honest : even if I found one, I am not ready to spend North of €50k on a watch, any watch, and I would never dare to wear it outside the house, making the whole thing a non-starter. Thus I’ll go for the second best option, i.e. the black and gilt dial Black Bay Fifty Eight. Which, incidentally, I bought last week.

    • @gyges5495
      @gyges5495 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely true 👍

  • @JayP7676
    @JayP7676 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Black one a year ago and I love it and specially with a jubilee bracelet with the stock Tudor clasp.. I also have the GMT Pepsi & I find that I wear the BB58 Black more..

  • @miguelangelsiller6314
    @miguelangelsiller6314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The blue on the bracelet is so beautiful. I have both . The black guilt is on the strap which is casual and comfortable.

  • @astrobusa
    @astrobusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review. Especially the editing and the macro footage. I'm also a 1958 vintage.... so for my 65th I'm looking at buying the black one. Then later, the blue. That way both my kids can have one when it comes time to pass them down. I guess thats a good enough excuse to buy both ??

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was able to find and buy a new Black BB58 and I already have a blue dialled Seiko Prospex "Marine Master" SBDX023J. Job done!

    • @manuel_winde
      @manuel_winde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I think it depends what else you have- particularly if you have or want a smaller collection. I am getting a Reverso duoface which has a black and a white dial. I also have a speedy pro which is obviously black dial- so a blue bb58 makes a perfect 3 watch combo.

  • @dariuszwojcik1601
    @dariuszwojcik1601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had black one and as much as nice it was i sold it. Now I’m thinking to buy it again 😂. I went to AD last week and I’m surprised how much nicer the blue one looks in real life compared to photos online. This made me think now before pulling the trigger again

    • @ChaPPie01
      @ChaPPie01 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same thing happened to me,I sell it the black one 2 years ago,and now have the blue and man other then foto's and videos..now I wanna add the bb58 gmt👌

  • @mang4554
    @mang4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased the black one with metal bracelet last week, but this video teased me very much. It will be my consideration.

  • @lordcharfield
    @lordcharfield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, beautifully put together video thanks. Love the strap combos at the end. Subscribed 👍🏼

  • @lynnlittle8671
    @lynnlittle8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought the black dial BB58 a few days ago, and I am loving it.
    If I could afford two Tutors, I would buy the 42mm Pelagos, blue dial...

  • @yousuf86
    @yousuf86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    just got one at the boutique. got the blue. they had both

    • @CultivatedWorld
      @CultivatedWorld  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations on your new Tudor!

  • @hellsalite4444
    @hellsalite4444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im on the Blue crew.

  • @johnsmith6961
    @johnsmith6961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the black and am now considering the blue.

    • @gyges5495
      @gyges5495 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same - the blue looks awesome

  • @VMIyanks04
    @VMIyanks04 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the blue on the brown leather strap! Do you still love the watch 2 years later?

  • @Bugster987
    @Bugster987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve done the same and bought both. Irresistible 🖤💙

  • @austinzizzi1142
    @austinzizzi1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went with that Tudor blue the only thing I wish is that they would have carried over the cream colored lume from the black model

  • @gyges5495
    @gyges5495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best to get both- I have the black and it’s awesome but I like the blue too

  • @jomoonen59
    @jomoonen59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it is the right decision I don”t know. I’ve the blue one and I love it. You’ ve them both and probably you love them both. A sub though is also a killer watch

  • @cjthegood
    @cjthegood 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like you, I would opt to buy both black and blue Black Bay 58s. Both are too gorgeous to be left out 😁

  • @frasitopoquito4144
    @frasitopoquito4144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, I hope to watch more of them in the future - subscribed! I was fortunate to purchase a blue version in April of this year and recently decided to get a Black one too. Absolutely love the watch and believe there is a lot of value in the BB58 for the money.
    Keep up the good work and I shall continue to watch...

  • @tariqqureshi6695
    @tariqqureshi6695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the 58s. I have the blue and the bronze boutique edition. Really thinking of getting the black one too! Really amazing value and they hold it also so can’t go wrong.

  • @snaan78
    @snaan78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I prefer black

  • @simonclarke1599
    @simonclarke1599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blue looks amazing

  • @lukasqux
    @lukasqux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and great pictures showing the true beauty of the watches!

  • @b_altmann
    @b_altmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    September 2021: no problem to get either anywhere

  • @MJMImages
    @MJMImages 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steel is the same on both. That’s why there’s only one replacement bracelet with one model number that goes with both.

    • @b_altmann
      @b_altmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably has to do then with the effect that the bezel colour has on the rest

  • @timelesssneakersandwatches
    @timelesssneakersandwatches 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both are beautiful! I just got the blue one and I love it 😍😍

  • @matthewhill3996
    @matthewhill3996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Black for me

  • @paulw1570
    @paulw1570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the black n gold 39mm with 3 straps, OEM leather strap, steel & black Nato. 1 watch...3 interpretations 😉

  • @rajTrondhjem10
    @rajTrondhjem10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have put in my deposit for the black from Tudor Boutique in Melbourne 🇦🇺

  • @858luke
    @858luke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awaiting delivery of the black

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody cares.

  • @nidalalghad4959
    @nidalalghad4959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smart decision you bought 2 instead of one rolex. Other thing is I take my hat off that you bought that strap for the blue Tudor, I would never have done that. However, when you put it in your wrist, it looked amazing and it made me think that I would only buy the blue if it comes with that "strap color" for free😁.

  • @sdm107
    @sdm107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to know what box that watch cushion came from. Most boxes have cushions that are too large for my wrist size. Nice video thanks

  • @andrei-cosmin.popa85
    @andrei-cosmin.popa85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The BB58 is my every day watch, but as soon as I saw the blue version, I fell in love with ... the Tudor (Snowflake) Submariner. Can't justify buying that any time soon, but a blue watch sounds interesting nevertheless.

  • @elichisley3031
    @elichisley3031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That brown strap is killer on blue version

  • @livesinshadow4386
    @livesinshadow4386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two Tudor Black Bays vs one Rolex Sub... sold! 😉

  • @pas0003
    @pas0003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comparison!

  • @greggeorgiou52
    @greggeorgiou52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great watch’s love them both , I own the blue bay and bb41 sg on leather

  • @romyv1077
    @romyv1077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the blue version and I love the this watch. It's my everyday office watch.

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also the steel isn't different, the brushing is rougher on the black

  • @JDDD33
    @JDDD33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this watch really value for money, when comparing to Grand Seiko (for example) ?

  • @zaf240489
    @zaf240489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spot on video

  • @stephanwilliot2324
    @stephanwilliot2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahah nice 😊 good choice for me they are complementary as the Blue has a more modern esthetic. Well I am going for a slightly different approach, getting the Navy Blue with the steel bracelet however I will put it on a nato. I am also on the waiting list for the BB Harrods edition so will have slightly different models….well that’s how I’m justifying it 😂

  • @davidminton2661
    @davidminton2661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't buy the rolex Submariner new unless you pay grey prices so I bought the black 58 and then bought the Submariner on the grey market and now I will buy the blue 58 love them all.

  • @isaque1225
    @isaque1225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer the black version.

  • @borjastick
    @borjastick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am lucky enough to have both the black and blue versions. The blue one I got from an AD at launch without any delay or pre-order. The black one came from the same AD some months later with a wait of just four weeks. I love them both and often swap between them during the day. They are, as pointed out in the comments, very different watches too. Both identical but very different to wear and to look at. My go-to favourite is the black version. Mine came with the webbing strap which is horrid but I already had a Strap-Code metal bracelet for it. There are downsides to the Strap-code version. It is heavier, not finished so well and has a rather old style push release for the buckle. But it also comes with more adjustment in the clasp and feels really good. It also has no rivets which many people hate about the Tudor metal bracelet. They don't bother me but it is worth noting this point when thinking of a replacement bracelet.
    I now struggle to think of anything else I would buy to add to my collection which also includes a Longines Spirit and a couple of Parnis Rolex tribute watches.

  • @notDonaldFagen
    @notDonaldFagen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One is a modern interpretation of a 1958 Sub. The other has nothing to do with any of that.

  • @xmuninu
    @xmuninu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ended up getting both too!

  • @jamescoyle5965
    @jamescoyle5965 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the blue one

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both very nice

  • @jaelee2263
    @jaelee2263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The colour between bracelets I think it is only optical illusion.

  • @resjon7981
    @resjon7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like both own both!

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the snowflake hands sooooo much better the the Mercedes hands!

  • @dontrombetti2706
    @dontrombetti2706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just buy both of em!😁

  • @soufianalgerie8827
    @soufianalgerie8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Blue one ❤

  • @davidofglenbrook4487
    @davidofglenbrook4487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two completely different watches. Apples to oranges.

  • @c.c.195
    @c.c.195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BB58, 925 silver 👌

  • @joh80
    @joh80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, my AD had both in store, no problem at all. Why would they be rare?

    • @CultivatedWorld
      @CultivatedWorld  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back when the video was created they were a bit thin on the ground. Since then the Black Bay 58 has become more available.

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good choice!

  • @brunobaer1887
    @brunobaer1887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always look on the BLUE side of life 😙 ;)

  • @ScoopzyDaizy
    @ScoopzyDaizy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine thinking that the steel on the blue one is lighter :facepalm:
    Just because Adrian Barker from his "prominent" TH-cam channel said it's lighter, doesn't mean that you need to convince yourself that he's right. What sense would there be for Tudor in making this decision? Just look at the watches, they're exactly the same apart from the bezel and dial.
    I have the blue watch and have compared it to the black one in person.

  • @kelvin.008
    @kelvin.008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long clasp and inarticulate links are not suitable for narrow wrists..

  • @johnbell1859
    @johnbell1859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes. 😊 🇬🇧

  • @myou6675
    @myou6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Different enough to justify both...

    • @CultivatedWorld
      @CultivatedWorld  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With different strap/bracelet options they are definitely different enough.

  • @ace-ic6kz
    @ace-ic6kz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how can bb58 b so popular sooo fking small, i have bronze 43mm , but want bb in silver to 43mm

  • @dinan4459
    @dinan4459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    these aren't hard to get anymore, they sell them online now

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course, now the marketing gimmick has served its purpose and we need to remove old stock... so that we can pull off the same crap with the new releases.

  • @ScotianBlooded
    @ScotianBlooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8 inch+ wrist ill take the 41

  • @Yannik.mlr_
    @Yannik.mlr_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Its called ROSE GOLD

  • @emersonc2136
    @emersonc2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me it’s the heritage line. The 58 watches look dainty on my wrist.

  • @JFinns
    @JFinns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:24 yikes that's bad. Get the blue/white nato strap on there asap.

  • @omegaseamaster300m4
    @omegaseamaster300m4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For ne Blue

  • @saladbowl85
    @saladbowl85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id still prefer the sub, but im happy with my original BB58 for now

  • @kfung4
    @kfung4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blue looks a bit cheap, rather get a seiko in blue

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, very underwhelming.

  • @minchrono24lover27
    @minchrono24lover27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My local AD has both on bracelet and has for months. These aren't rare lmfao.

    • @hammalamiri12
      @hammalamiri12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started seeing the original bb58 in Central London shop windows in late 2019. I bought mine on the day in Feb 2020. The blue is even more common

    • @minchrono24lover27
      @minchrono24lover27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hammalamiri12 Bit different for me, the blue just sold out but the black on both bracelet and nato is still there. There's still a blue on nato though but the bracelet is gone.
      I'm glad people who want the watch can finally buy them though rather than paying scalpers.

  • @AK-pr2nk
    @AK-pr2nk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy black

  • @_crowbar9162
    @_crowbar9162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be honest, there's literally no difference in the colour of the steel of these watches. Why would Tudor do that? How much sense does it make to have the same freaking watch that doesn't share the SAME bracelet? Production-wise this makes literally no sense, and the reason why the steel looks different is simply because of light and different colours of the dials. To be fair, it doesn't even look different to me personally. Adrian spewed out some nonsense and now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Meanwhile Adrian is selling bracelets on his website for 40 pounds, the same ones you can purchase on cheapestnatostraps for like 5 pounds. I don't trust that guy one bit.

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cant just make different steel lol