The BB58 is for many close to the ’perfect’ vintage diver. 😎 It’s hard to kill that vibe here. Well, when you are close to perfection you are getting picky. 🧐 For those who are not happy with the bracelet, I would suggest to go for the leather strap: it’s just one of the best. 👌
It is because of Rolex. They cannot have BB58 or any BB line have it because that would be competing with big brother. BB58 is a tool watch and can take a beating. Not to mention it has more capability than the Tudor Submariner of the past. Pelagos is solely a tool watch and not a well balanced watch. BB58 on the other hand can go with a Tux and go scuba diving. We won’t see that clasp on all BB line. I suspect some of the line may have it like those that are made from different metals.
There is no good reason. Omega suffers from this same problem. The adjustable clasp of the Planet Ocean should be used on many more models, and re-dressed for more minimal clasps, if needed. It's almost as if they relegate these features to specific models as a sort of "playground" but fail to spread the love across the line.
The majority of my watches have a date. I usually choose a watch that looks best with my clothes for that day. It takes real time to set the date which may be wrong when I need to wear the watch again a few days later. Date complications on an everyday watch aren’t much of a problem, but dates on watches in rotation…it gets old fast.
I prefer the case on the BB 58 to the Rolex. I specifically like the lack of crown guards, and the shape of the lugs. I also like the size and shape of the crown.
The full bronze BB58 comes with a new clasp with micro adjust. Hopefully, this will extend to the rest of the range in a near future. Then maybe I would consider the purchase.
I am a BB 58 bronze owner, and the T-Fit adjustment in the clasp is brilliant! And yes, the bronze watch is constantly changing, and will leave your wrist green on a hot humid day. I still love it though!
Has this happened where a watch brand has offered a new clasp for people to buy through their ADs? Because id love to grab one if it happens... My bracelet is sitting in the box for the winter, leather / fabric NATO has taken its place.
@@Joellercoaster a half link doesn't make the cut for me, micro adjust is just such a nice commodity, my wrist change size throughout the day and come on mate, it's 2021 and it's not like its a technical wonder whatsoever to add a micro adjust to a bracelet, especially at those price points.
Me too. I am 194cm and a big chap so the BB heritage just about looks right on my 19cm wrist if not slightly small. I tried on the BB58 when I bought my BB Heritage and on my wrist it was tiny. Plus I am sure those that complain about it being too thick have never actually worn the BB heritage. I also have a Breitling Avenger 46mm and that really is a thick beast, the BB heritage is just rightly proportioned for a bigger chap to wear.
I found the BB heritage thread! The best version on BB in my opinion is the original 79220r. It's a beauty! It's not too big on my wrist. Really the only down side it the no quick adjust bracelet... I think that's a BIG issue. But if you rock the NATO or maybe after market bracelet, you would be fine.
@Lee Yep we both had the same experience. BB58 - really nice, but too small for my wrist. BB Heritage just about right and honestly so comfortable to wear, and I have never had any problems fitting under a shirt for work either. I am looking at a 1926 41mm next ... since bang for buck, Tudor are pretty hard to beat...
@@gavinstratospherec453 Agreed. I posted this below: Jenni... good call at the 2:00 mark of mentioning that the BB58 could be a little small for bigger wrists. I finally got a chance to try on a BB58 yesterday after watching countless videos and reviews on it and thinking that was the watch I wanted. My wrist is somewhere between 7.0 and 7.25 inches -- so maybe above average, but not that big really. Anyway, I couldn't believe how small the BB58 looked and felt on my wrist. First impression was that it's a total no-go for me. Then I tried on the regular Black Bay Heritage (41mm) and found that size to be much better. The 41mm piece just felt like the "right" size, whereas the BB58 was clearly too small. Even the woman helping me out at the jewelry store said the BB58 was way too small for my wrist. I'll definitely try them both on at least one more time, as well as the Pelagos, just to see what my second impression is. But definitely my first impression was that the 58 is, as you said, a bit "dainty."
I definitely refer the Rhodium Yachtmaster as Whitewalker as well. I can think of no better name which instantly puts a vivid picture in my mind of that Yachtmaster.
Hello , agree with you , i was trying bb 58 and pelagos this afternoon and pelagos is my choice . But i can t décide between black and blue . What colour do’you yake ?
Would love to add it - beautiful watch. The titanium “heft” is growing on me too (it’s a superior metal to steel in so many ways but it’s hard to displace the classics). Would be a perfect complement to my 16660 👌
Have the bb58 for 2 months. It gets 95% of my wrist time. Love it! At first, I was hesitant about the no date, but after getting it, I’ve found that the date would offset the beautiful so symmetry of the dial and I wouldn’t want a date on this watch now.
My AD offered me the Blue and the Black after I told him I wanted the black one. Tried them both on the wrist and the black just looks so much better! As you said, the blue is colder while the black has a warmth to it that none of the other have. Definitely the better choice.
A day/date or a simple date window used to be a big deal for me when selecting a watch, however I now prefer a clean dial without a date window. I guess I am evolving, or at least my tastes and preferences are anyway. Really enjoy your content and I appreciate the work you do to get the watch news out there.
I recently (Nov 2021) bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue to compliment a range watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 which I've cherished for 19 yrs. The Tudor BB 58 is a solid, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 version as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. But after watching some of your helpful videos, plus many others, I succumbed and I have just purchased the BB 58 Black version on 20 Dec 21 from my AD at retail - there is no shortage of them in the UK these days. I do, and still love the blue, but I have also grown to adore the warmer, more vintage appeal that the black exudes, not to mention the slightly darker shade of steel Tudor has cleverly used to add further differentiation. Maybe now owning identically-made watches with the exact same specs is crazy, but hey it's Christmas after all !
Went to the AD yesterday to ask for (any) Rolex, looked at some Tudors instead and ended up applying for a PP 5396R. What an emotional roller coaster in 10 minutes.
I agree with you 100% I have the 2020 Tudor BB GMT, but remember as great as a Tudor is, it can never replace a Rolex on your wrist, thanks for your opinion. All the best.
I like many things about that watch but the hour hand is not one of them. I wish they offered more color options as well. It’s not a Rolex so at that price I am going with an Omega instead.
Considering a Tudor in lieu of a Rolex, mainly because people are getting robbed for their Rolex and i want an everyday beater. Just less stress for most of the quality.
You can't see your Tudor as a replacement watch to Rolex you won't be happy, because you ca't stop finding fault in the prefect watch, I own 2020 Tudor BB GMT & 2016 Rolex Batman So I solved that problem I purchased a Mido Ocean Star GMT (Blue) put it on a Nato Strap and honestly for a travelers GMT (where the other two are Desk GMT) it solved that issue and solved the travel issue where wearing an expensive watch could get you Robbed , Good luck and all the best in your choice.
Had both the BB58 colours and I have to say I went the opposite direction. The Black is more photogenic, but kinda meh on wrist. The Blue is meh in photos, but is an absolute delight on wrist. I love how discreet, subdued and versatile it is as a blue watch, far more wearable than any other blue watch I own. It's the one I kept.
A big plus is the no-date. If you have several autos then having to change the date each time you change watches is just a pain. The big minus is the text on the dial - are they trying to write a sonnet or something. And what is it with this two versions of a water resistance. Perhaps they think their target audience does not have the wit to make the conversion. Better still, put that info on the back.
A years waiting list? Wow! Where? I could order one right now and it'll be delivered to my door tomorrow, straight from an AD, at retail! I'm scratching my head with that tbh 🤷♂️
@@Mattcrafter15 Nope, it really depends on your location. In the UK / Scotland it's easy to get what I can read from the comments but here in Germany (where Jenni is located) they are pretty sought after. I'm waiting for my Black Bay 36 with the silver dial (!) since 5 months (AD purchase in Germany as well). So yeah... don't always generalize.
Here in SIngapore, there's a 3 to 6 months waitlist. Although my friend in Bangkok says they are readily available there. So it honestly depends on location.
I bought a BB58 in black a week ago from my local AD and 😍 . I don’t mind not having a date since I have my iPhone for that. My wrist size is 5.5 inches and it feels perfect. The AD adjusted for my wrist and feels great.
The 58 you can buy anywhere right now. All you need to do is walk into the shop. Same goes for blue, bronze is also fairly easy. Silver too. Definitely do not ever pay over retail for a Tudor.
It was a struggle for me to get it in germany, the waiting list on the Black Bay 58 was around 1 year and i was really lucky getting it after 6 months :)
Having a date window is a big negative for me. For the most part I really don’t like them. That the BB58 does without one is a huge positive in my case. And yeah, the original black gilt dial, steel case version is still the best. Far more warmth and “character” than most of the other variations.
Agreed, the black one is most captivating design. In fact, the watch in person looks much nicer than on picture or video. It really has the warmth and slight expensive look with the rose gold.
I love my BB58. The size is perfect for my 6.75" wrist. It has warm, vintage tones thanks to the matte black dial and gilt with aluminum bezel. The symmetry of the no-date dial is perfect (if I need to know the date, I wear my Datejust instead). The Tudor is a lovely watch and a joy to own and wear. It also is amazingly accurate - mine has been perfectly accurate for the two months I have owned it. I have mine on leather (I think the leather enhances the warm vintage tones better than the metal bracelet). I believe the black dial BB58 has more in common with a vintage four digit Sub than a modern Submariner. Highly recommended.
Jenni... good call at the 2:00 mark of mentioning that the BB58 could be a little small for bigger wrists. I finally got a chance to try on a BB58 yesterday after watching countless videos and reviews on it and thinking that was the watch I wanted. My wrist is somewhere between 7.0 and 7.25 inches -- so maybe above average, but not that big really. Anyway, I couldn't believe how small the BB58 looked and felt on my wrist. First impression was that it's a total no-go for me. Then I tried on the regular Black Bay Heritage (41mm) and found that size to be much better. The 41mm piece just felt like the "right" size, whereas the BB58 was clearly too small. Even the woman helping me out at the jewelry store said the BB58 was way too small for my wrist. I'll definitely try them both on at least one more time, as well as the Pelagos, just to see what my second impression is. But definitely my first impression was that the 58 is, as you said, a bit "dainty."
Fair point...normally, i would also advise people not to buy any watch brand as a Rolex substitute. If you really want a Rolex, any other brand will not satisfy you. Maybe for a few months, or even a year, but you will always yearn for the watch that you want....Unfortunately, Rolex isn't giving us much choice. For my case, I am not a watch collector. I can appreciate a quality watch, but I will not collect a watch simply because it is interesting. I want to use my watch/es. So, after wearing 1 watch everyday for the past 12 years (an Automatic Aquaracer, given to me by my parents), I have decided to get 2 watches for myself - a quartz as a daily beater, and 1 luxury automatic for formal/special occasions...ideally an OP Rolex. But no AD will sell me an OP (even if they have it on display). So, what will I do for my special watch? Going to a gray market dealer is a big no-no. Just get the next best thing to a Rolex...yeah...a substitute watch....coz Rolex ADs discriminate those without prior history with them. How can I have history if they do not sell me one in the first place?
The aluminum bezel that Tudor offers is far more durable and scratch resistant compared to all the other watch companies. Don't let the aluminum bezel turn you down from purchasing the 58, trust me.
For me, aside from the obvious TIME complication, the date complication is by far the most useful complication a watch can offer... A rotating 60 minute bezel is better than a chronograph for me in most cases as well. It's much easier to read than your typical chrono...
No date on the BB58? Astonishing! I can certainly see why someone wouldn't know this before they'd bought it. I've worn this watch for two years and hadn't spotted it 🤣🤣🤣
It's strange how small size differences on these Tudor BBs makes so much on the looks on the wrist. I wanted the BB Heritage but it looked a bit too thick on my 18,5 cm wrist. Then I tried the BB58 which was then too small. Finally ended up with BB GMT which is a tad thinner than the heritage, or at least so it seems on my wrist.
I would love to own a Rolex someday, namely the Explorer I.. But my situation is opposite! I was looking at Seiko Milsub mod builds and stumbled across the BB58 lol.. It immediately captured my heart, and now I must own one. So instead of spending maybe $500-$1,000, I’m now going to be spending $3,500 lol. This watch stands on its own! No Rolex is like it, therefore it could never be a substitute for one.
My wife got me a black bay 58 ( original ) for my 30th two days ago. Loving it so far, bracelet fits perfectly and cant fault it! love the vintage look, was easy to buy from AD and the gold adds a lovely warmth to the watch. ( I also love that is has no date, I wouldn't of got it if it had a date )
Completely agree with your recommendation on the black one, Jenni. The blue one is beautiful but I never understood the overhypes around it. There are many other great looking blue watches out there but nothing like the black BB58. And I don’t think there is anything wrong with getting BB58 until you can get your hands on a Sub. I love both so much. I was fortunate to land on a Sub first and I thought I wouldn’t want the BB58 any longer but was I wrong! Just let any one of the two find you in any order and if you decide to sell one for whatever reason you won’t lose any money.
Sold my sub after 12 years of great service. Got bored , wanted something different. Went from Hublot through Seiko, several others and finally found Tudor. Rotating my GMT, FXD and 58 it’s the 58 that gets the most wrist time. Love it!
I can’t believe she said that not having a date window is a con for this watch. A date on an automatic watch is absolutely useless in 2022 since everyone has a phone in their pocket and in her case an Apple Watch on her other wrist.
Jenni i've been watching your videos for a long time and i realised you've become so much more comfortable in front of the camera! Its so great to see parts of your personality come out! Its quite fun haha. Your videos have always been great just that last time u seemed a little bit more formal but now i think you've struck a really nice balance!
If the heritage look is your thing, then yeah the black and gilt one. I love my blue one and wear it on a strap (no bracelet issues). It looks way more the modern sports watch with some heritage vibe - and that is what I wanted. I also prefer time-only watches with a number in rotation. Far from being "too cool" I consider it a Goldilocks of a watch. Each to their own.
Hey Jenni, just found your channel through this video. I really love how down-to-earth and informational, and fun your videos are. I feel that a lot of other watch channels are very pretentious, and yours just embodies a simple love of watches, which is where I'm at. Please keep making great videos! And you've made an instant subscriber out of me.
Purchased a Black Heritage as I am a big guy. Absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I regularly receive complements on it. My next watch will be a Sea Dweller.
The steel versions still need: - micro adjustment on the bracelet like the bronze version - fully brushed case - date complication - open case-back like the 925
@@MPD90 Polished case= dress watch, brushed case= tool watch. The date is very useful for some people, including myself and my work. Open back shows the movement, which is always interesting to see and even show to non watch people so they can understand how it works.
I daily drive a Professional Seiko LX Black on Black with the Spring Drive movement and, the Titanium grade 5 is nice way better than Titanium grade 2, LX is equipped with day date, Zaratsu finish, oh yeah ceramic dial, 300 meter saturation level, 72 hour power reserve meter yup, also LX looks great on women.
I tried on the 925 recently and that watch looks better in person than in any of the videos I’ve seen. The many shops I looked at recently in Lucerne, Zürich, and Stuttgart all had most to all of the models available. Your comment about the size is correct. I have an 18.4 cm wrist and the BB58 did look a bit on the small side.
Many, many people do not know that silver can be cleaned. It will tarnish and if you don’t do anything it will eventually turn blueish black. Don’t let it come that far. There are impregnated cloths available for normal maintenance and your watch will stay bright.
I do like the Blue 58, but prefer the aesthetics of the Black 58 more, for me that’s the one I’ll be saving for. Maybe by the time I can afford one they will have introduced the quick adjustment clasp to the rest of the range!!
I was also in between sizes of the bracelet and it was a little discouraging. However, there are a few options out there to resolve the lack of adjustment of the clasp that you could explore. I have both the half link from Uncle Seiko and the on-the-fly extension link from Steel Reef and they are just game changers. Nowadays I only use the extension link and the watch fits perfectly everytime.
As the owner of a fairly decent watch collection consisting of pieces from Rolex, Omega, JLC, AP, PP, and cartier….I will say my Tudor BB58 blue is my favorite. Simply a perfect piece!
I decided on the blue BB58 over the black. I think the blue is more versatile for my style. A date window was a must for me until I started wearing automatics and rotating watches. I think the BB58 is close to being my perfect watch.
Jenny, don't forget the 'sweet spot' of 3 different watches for £10,000. The BB 58 is a great contribution to a 10k set. A rolex sub would push that budget.
I had the heritage 41mm and while I didn't mind the dimensions or thickness, it was the weight that killed it for me. Sold it to fund the 58 and I love it. Definitely a keeper for me.
Nice one Jenni! When I purchased my Pelagos LHD nearly a year ago I was shown a blue BB58 that someone ordered but decided not to purchase. That watch looked fantastic but I stepped out of the store with my Pelagos. Over the following days I did wonder if I should have gone for the BB58 as it was now sold and the country was again in lock down. A month or so later I did get a BB58 in black via an alleged online order error as these were by appointment only but with no appointments in lock down I managed to get it. I made the right choice to get the black one. The blue is great but for me the black is my preference. I completely agree that the Rolex Submariner is a totally different watch. From a personal perspective my preference is a no date watch for symmetry or if it has a date then my preferred date position is at 6 o'clock. That's why my Sub has no date. I must say that having seen the BB458 in gold it is gorgeous, I want one and it's on my list but at the price there are a few others that are above it.
Okay okay, twist my arm... I guess I'll splurge xD This is my grail watch for the most part and at 5k CAD, that's no modest amount to spend in my tax bracket. Really glad to have watched this video and gain more insight. What a stunning piece!! I love the fact that you're still rocking the apple watch on the right wrist. Once I make my Black Bay 58 purchase, I'll likely do the same to continue my daily tracking. I thought it might look a bit silly but it actually doesn't at all IMO.
That original Black Bay with the red bezel is GORGEOUS
The BB58 is for many close to the ’perfect’ vintage diver. 😎
It’s hard to kill that vibe here.
Well, when you are close to perfection you are getting picky. 🧐
For those who are not happy with the bracelet, I would suggest to go for the leather strap: it’s just one of the best. 👌
If you live in London you can get the Sub & BB58. The Sub is for when you're in the house, BB58 is for when you go outside...
Tudor makes such an amazing clasp for the Pelagos, I have no idea why they don't us it on more of their watches.
Most probably because the pelagos is a true tool watch unlike a bb58. Tudor is the tool watch brand. Pelagos & P01
It is because of Rolex. They cannot have BB58 or any BB line have it because that would be competing with big brother. BB58 is a tool watch and can take a beating. Not to mention it has more capability than the Tudor Submariner of the past. Pelagos is solely a tool watch and not a well balanced watch. BB58 on the other hand can go with a Tux and go scuba diving. We won’t see that clasp on all BB line. I suspect some of the line may have it like those that are made from different metals.
The bb 58 bronze does also have a great clasp. I hope all future bb 58 watches get the new clasp.
The concept of the bracelet is goo, but the look is not.
There is no good reason. Omega suffers from this same problem. The adjustable clasp of the Planet Ocean should be used on many more models, and re-dressed for more minimal clasps, if needed. It's almost as if they relegate these features to specific models as a sort of "playground" but fail to spread the love across the line.
If this had a date, it would suck!
You nailed it with the black dial. Plus, it is a strap monster.
The majority of my watches have a date. I usually choose a watch that looks best with my clothes for that day. It takes real time to set the date which may be wrong when I need to wear the watch again a few days later. Date complications on an everyday watch aren’t much of a problem, but dates on watches in rotation…it gets old fast.
@Lee Eureka!! one day more
I prefer the case on the BB 58 to the Rolex. I specifically like the lack of crown guards, and the shape of the lugs. I also like the size and shape of the crown.
You seem so nice and genuine. That’s why I like watching your channel. You just seem like a nice person.
@@seveninchwrist2742 get a life. Not what I meant at all.
@@seveninchwrist2742 No. He does not. You're from a strange neighborhood?
@@sidneyt1016 Needless to say.
The full bronze BB58 comes with a new clasp with micro adjust.
Hopefully, this will extend to the rest of the range in a near future. Then maybe I would consider the purchase.
I am a BB 58 bronze owner, and the T-Fit adjustment in the clasp is brilliant! And yes, the bronze watch is constantly changing, and will leave your wrist green on a hot humid day. I still love it though!
@@seandavie3672 from the bracelet? I have the BBB and I don’t get any green from the case, even though the watch has quite a lot of patina.
Has this happened where a watch brand has offered a new clasp for people to buy through their ADs? Because id love to grab one if it happens... My bracelet is sitting in the box for the winter, leather / fabric NATO has taken its place.
Uncle Seiko are selling a half-link for the BB58 OEM bracelet. It genuinely changed my relationship with the watch.
@@Joellercoaster a half link doesn't make the cut for me, micro adjust is just such a nice commodity, my wrist change size throughout the day and come on mate, it's 2021 and it's not like its a technical wonder whatsoever to add a micro adjust to a bracelet, especially at those price points.
Thank you for giving the BB Heritage it’s due! It’s the perfect watch for those of us who DON’T have an itty bitty wrist.
I like the bb heritage but it is too thick and slab sided. I'd buy if they slim it down.
Me too. I am 194cm and a big chap so the BB heritage just about looks right on my 19cm wrist if not slightly small. I tried on the BB58 when I bought my BB Heritage and on my wrist it was tiny. Plus I am sure those that complain about it being too thick have never actually worn the BB heritage. I also have a Breitling Avenger 46mm and that really is a thick beast, the BB heritage is just rightly proportioned for a bigger chap to wear.
I found the BB heritage thread! The best version on BB in my opinion is the original 79220r. It's a beauty! It's not too big on my wrist. Really the only down side it the no quick adjust bracelet... I think that's a BIG issue. But if you rock the NATO or maybe after market bracelet, you would be fine.
@Lee Yep we both had the same experience. BB58 - really nice, but too small for my wrist. BB Heritage just about right and honestly so comfortable to wear, and I have never had any problems fitting under a shirt for work either. I am looking at a 1926 41mm next ... since bang for buck, Tudor are pretty hard to beat...
@@gavinstratospherec453 Agreed. I posted this below: Jenni... good call at the 2:00 mark of mentioning that the BB58 could be a little small for bigger wrists. I finally got a chance to try on a BB58 yesterday after watching countless videos and reviews on it and thinking that was the watch I wanted. My wrist is somewhere between 7.0 and 7.25 inches -- so maybe above average, but not that big really. Anyway, I couldn't believe how small the BB58 looked and felt on my wrist. First impression was that it's a total no-go for me. Then I tried on the regular Black Bay Heritage (41mm) and found that size to be much better. The 41mm piece just felt like the "right" size, whereas the BB58 was clearly too small. Even the woman helping me out at the jewelry store said the BB58 was way too small for my wrist. I'll definitely try them both on at least one more time, as well as the Pelagos, just to see what my second impression is. But definitely my first impression was that the 58 is, as you said, a bit "dainty."
I definitely refer the Rhodium Yachtmaster as Whitewalker as well. I can think of no better name which instantly puts a vivid picture in my mind of that Yachtmaster.
I own a Pelagos, the most underrated Tudor out there IMO. The BB58 is nice, but if you're looking for a true diver/tool-watch, opt for the Pelagos.
Hello , agree with you , i was trying bb 58 and pelagos this afternoon and pelagos is my choice . But i can t décide between black and blue . What colour do’you yake ?
Would love to add it - beautiful watch. The titanium “heft” is growing on me too (it’s a superior metal to steel in so many ways but it’s hard to displace the classics). Would be a perfect complement to my 16660 👌
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I love mine, it's my daily and wears so amazing on my wrist just honestly perfect, I prefer it to my submariner for daily wear
Same here.
Have the bb58 for 2 months. It gets 95% of my wrist time. Love it! At first, I was hesitant about the no date, but after getting it, I’ve found that the date would offset the beautiful so symmetry of the dial and I wouldn’t want a date on this watch now.
@@laarsss: True. A glide lock clasp would be great, but at least it has 3 holes in the clasp for sizing which covers another link.
A 40mm Blackbay 58 with ceramic bezel will be a dream come true.
My AD offered me the Blue and the Black after I told him I wanted the black one. Tried them both on the wrist and the black just looks so much better! As you said, the blue is colder while the black has a warmth to it that none of the other have. Definitely the better choice.
A day/date or a simple date window used to be a big deal for me when selecting a watch, however I now prefer a clean dial without a date window. I guess I am evolving, or at least my tastes and preferences are anyway. Really enjoy your content and I appreciate the work you do to get the watch news out there.
I recently (Nov 2021) bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue to compliment a range watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 which I've cherished for 19 yrs. The Tudor BB 58 is a solid, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 version as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. But after watching some of your helpful videos, plus many others, I succumbed and I have just purchased the BB 58 Black version on 20 Dec 21 from my AD at retail - there is no shortage of them in the UK these days.
I do, and still love the blue, but I have also grown to adore the warmer, more vintage appeal that the black exudes, not to mention the slightly darker shade of steel Tudor has cleverly used to add further differentiation. Maybe now owning identically-made watches with the exact same specs is crazy, but hey it's Christmas after all !
My first big watch was the Sub, and I think the black and blue BB58 are beautiful in their own right.
Went to the AD yesterday to ask for (any) Rolex, looked at some Tudors instead and ended up applying for a PP 5396R. What an emotional roller coaster in 10 minutes.
The BB ticks nearly every box for me but that damn snowflake hour hand, I just can't learn to love it :(
I agree with you 100% I have the 2020 Tudor BB GMT, but remember as great as a Tudor is, it can never replace a Rolex on your wrist, thanks for your opinion. All the best.
I like many things about that watch but the hour hand is not one of them. I wish they offered more color options as well. It’s not a Rolex so at that price I am going with an Omega instead.
@@malkinmalone
Funny you say that, I tried got an Omega Speedmaster Date
After I got it I sold it. It is hard to substitute
My opinion enjoy
Considering a Tudor in lieu of a Rolex, mainly because people are getting robbed for their Rolex and i want an everyday beater. Just less stress for most of the quality.
Robbed twice (first by Rolex itself….). Got a BB58 blue dial months ago: excellent everyday watch.
You can't see your Tudor as a replacement watch to Rolex you won't be happy, because you ca't stop finding fault in the prefect watch, I own 2020 Tudor BB GMT & 2016 Rolex Batman
So I solved that problem I purchased a Mido Ocean Star GMT (Blue) put it on a Nato Strap and honestly for a travelers GMT (where the other two are Desk GMT) it solved that issue and solved the travel issue where wearing an expensive watch could get you Robbed , Good luck and all the best in your choice.
Buy the rolex. They hold their value and rise in value much more then the Tudor.
Put ur rolexes in safe deposit box & get a tudor. U’re welcome.
I was wearing my Black Bay 36 in a shady bar. If it was a Rolex, I wouldn’t have walked out with it. My friend thought I was wearing a Timex lol!
Had both the BB58 colours and I have to say I went the opposite direction. The Black is more photogenic, but kinda meh on wrist. The Blue is meh in photos, but is an absolute delight on wrist. I love how discreet, subdued and versatile it is as a blue watch, far more wearable than any other blue watch I own. It's the one I kept.
I have the heritage, it's blue with a black dial, so beautiful!
A big plus is the no-date. If you have several autos then having to change the date each time you change watches is just a pain. The big minus is the text on the dial - are they trying to write a sonnet or something. And what is it with this two versions of a water resistance. Perhaps they think their target audience does not have the wit to make the conversion. Better still, put that info on the back.
A years waiting list? Wow! Where? I could order one right now and it'll be delivered to my door tomorrow, straight from an AD, at retail! I'm scratching my head with that tbh 🤷♂️
She's shilling Chronext who sell above retail. That's the only explanation I can fathom as to why she'd claim there's a year waiting list.
@@Mattcrafter15 Nope, it really depends on your location. In the UK / Scotland it's easy to get what I can read from the comments but here in Germany (where Jenni is located) they are pretty sought after. I'm waiting for my Black Bay 36 with the silver dial (!) since 5 months (AD purchase in Germany as well). So yeah... don't always generalize.
Here in SIngapore, there's a 3 to 6 months waitlist. Although my friend in Bangkok says they are readily available there. So it honestly depends on location.
I’ve been on the waiting list for almost a year.
Still the best dive watch ever
I bought a BB58 in black a week ago from my local AD and 😍 . I don’t mind not having a date since I have my iPhone for that. My wrist size is 5.5 inches and it feels perfect. The AD adjusted for my wrist and feels great.
The 58 you can buy anywhere right now. All you need to do is walk into the shop. Same goes for blue, bronze is also fairly easy. Silver too. Definitely do not ever pay over retail for a Tudor.
It was a struggle for me to get it in germany, the waiting list on the Black Bay 58 was around 1 year and i was really lucky getting it after 6 months :)
Yeah not sure where you live but lots of places this is absolutely not the case.
In Thailand....can get relatively easy. Got the chrono in a few weeks wait. Had the full range of 58 available also.
But Rolex...forget it
That depends on which part of the world you’re in. It’s still very difficult to get in my neck of the woods
Do you live near a Tudor Boutique to pick up a Bronze? The only one here in the USA is in New York City.
Having a date window is a big negative for me. For the most part I really don’t like them. That the BB58 does without one is a huge positive in my case. And yeah, the original black gilt dial, steel case version is still the best. Far more warmth and “character” than most of the other variations.
Agreed
Totally agree
Blue is better 💙
I like the blue better imo
Agreed, the black one is most captivating design. In fact, the watch in person looks much nicer than on picture or video. It really has the warmth and slight expensive look with the rose gold.
Jenni! I’ll say it again: “Use the bezel as a date!”
I've never even considered that, but that is a great idea! Just set mine now.
Hmm. Now I have one more thing to remember.
Cool watch hack! 👍
Cool idea!
Use the bezel as a date? I know I must be being very obtuse in not getting this my friend but what/how do you mean?
just got this watch as a first luxury watch ever today…
You were right about the 58 line expanding... :)
Every occasion she says "Time" I laugh!!
I love my BB58. The size is perfect for my 6.75" wrist. It has warm, vintage tones thanks to the matte black dial and gilt with aluminum bezel. The symmetry of the no-date dial is perfect (if I need to know the date, I wear my Datejust instead). The Tudor is a lovely watch and a joy to own and wear. It also is amazingly accurate - mine has been perfectly accurate for the two months I have owned it. I have mine on leather (I think the leather enhances the warm vintage tones better than the metal bracelet). I believe the black dial BB58 has more in common with a vintage four digit Sub than a modern Submariner. Highly recommended.
Purchased one yesterday. Scratched my bezel the same day but love the watch even more now
You don't need to know the date when wearing a dive watch.
Best review of the Black Bay. Thank you!
Oosh, the quick adjustment on the strap is a must!!! Especially on a flight!!!
Uncle Seiko sells a half link for the BB58 now, so those who need can give it a try.
I got one few months ago, Tudor BB58 black dial. Absolutely amazing everyday watch!
Jenni... good call at the 2:00 mark of mentioning that the BB58 could be a little small for bigger wrists. I finally got a chance to try on a BB58 yesterday after watching countless videos and reviews on it and thinking that was the watch I wanted. My wrist is somewhere between 7.0 and 7.25 inches -- so maybe above average, but not that big really. Anyway, I couldn't believe how small the BB58 looked and felt on my wrist. First impression was that it's a total no-go for me. Then I tried on the regular Black Bay Heritage (41mm) and found that size to be much better. The 41mm piece just felt like the "right" size, whereas the BB58 was clearly too small. Even the woman helping me out at the jewelry store said the BB58 was way too small for my wrist. I'll definitely try them both on at least one more time, as well as the Pelagos, just to see what my second impression is. But definitely my first impression was that the 58 is, as you said, a bit "dainty."
Fair point...normally, i would also advise people not to buy any watch brand as a Rolex substitute. If you really want a Rolex, any other brand will not satisfy you. Maybe for a few months, or even a year, but you will always yearn for the watch that you want....Unfortunately, Rolex isn't giving us much choice.
For my case, I am not a watch collector. I can appreciate a quality watch, but I will not collect a watch simply because it is interesting. I want to use my watch/es. So, after wearing 1 watch everyday for the past 12 years (an Automatic Aquaracer, given to me by my parents), I have decided to get 2 watches for myself - a quartz as a daily beater, and 1 luxury automatic for formal/special occasions...ideally an OP Rolex. But no AD will sell me an OP (even if they have it on display). So, what will I do for my special watch? Going to a gray market dealer is a big no-no. Just get the next best thing to a Rolex...yeah...a substitute watch....coz Rolex ADs discriminate those without prior history with them. How can I have history if they do not sell me one in the first place?
The aluminum bezel that Tudor offers is far more durable and scratch resistant compared to all the other watch companies. Don't let the aluminum bezel turn you down from purchasing the 58, trust me.
For me, aside from the obvious TIME complication, the date complication is by far the most useful complication a watch can offer... A rotating 60 minute bezel is better than a chronograph for me in most cases as well. It's much easier to read than your typical chrono...
No date on the BB58? Astonishing! I can certainly see why someone wouldn't know this before they'd bought it. I've worn this watch for two years and hadn't spotted it 🤣🤣🤣
At 8.47 Jenni mentioned her husband. That was the moment when my heart broke. 😢
It's strange how small size differences on these Tudor BBs makes so much on the looks on the wrist. I wanted the BB Heritage but it looked a bit too thick on my 18,5 cm wrist. Then I tried the BB58 which was then too small. Finally ended up with BB GMT which is a tad thinner than the heritage, or at least so it seems on my wrist.
I don't know about you Jenni but I love Black Bay in silver.🥰
I would love to own a Rolex someday, namely the Explorer I.. But my situation is opposite! I was looking at Seiko Milsub mod builds and stumbled across the BB58 lol.. It immediately captured my heart, and now I must own one. So instead of spending maybe $500-$1,000, I’m now going to be spending $3,500 lol. This watch stands on its own! No Rolex is like it, therefore it could never be a substitute for one.
My wife got me a black bay 58 ( original ) for my 30th two days ago. Loving it so far, bracelet fits perfectly and cant fault it! love the vintage look, was easy to buy from AD and the gold adds a lovely warmth to the watch.
( I also love that is has no date, I wouldn't of got it if it had a date )
Completely agree with your recommendation on the black one, Jenni. The blue one is beautiful but I never understood the overhypes around it. There are many other great looking blue watches out there but nothing like the black BB58.
And I don’t think there is anything wrong with getting BB58 until you can get your hands on a Sub. I love both so much. I was fortunate to land on a Sub first and I thought I wouldn’t want the BB58 any longer but was I wrong! Just let any one of the two find you in any order and if you decide to sell one for whatever reason you won’t lose any money.
Sold my sub after 12 years of great service. Got bored , wanted something different. Went from Hublot through Seiko, several others and finally found Tudor.
Rotating my GMT, FXD and 58 it’s the 58 that gets the most wrist time. Love it!
I can’t believe she said that not having a date window is a con for this watch. A date on an automatic watch is absolutely useless in 2022 since everyone has a phone in their pocket and in her case an Apple Watch on her other wrist.
Good everyday beat up watch.
Can’t still fathom Tudor as luxury yet
Jenni i've been watching your videos for a long time and i realised you've become so much more comfortable in front of the camera! Its so great to see parts of your personality come out! Its quite fun haha. Your videos have always been great just that last time u seemed a little bit more formal but now i think you've struck a really nice balance!
If the heritage look is your thing, then yeah the black and gilt one. I love my blue one and wear it on a strap (no bracelet issues). It looks way more the modern sports watch with some heritage vibe - and that is what I wanted. I also prefer time-only watches with a number in rotation. Far from being "too cool" I consider it a Goldilocks of a watch. Each to their own.
One of the things that appeals to me most about this watch is that it has no date. It has a lovely symmetrical face..
I have the navy blue and love it. Great watch for everyday wear.
The blue one is my preference too. By quite a margin.
Hey Jenni, just found your channel through this video. I really love how down-to-earth and informational, and fun your videos are. I feel that a lot of other watch channels are very pretentious, and yours just embodies a simple love of watches, which is where I'm at.
Please keep making great videos! And you've made an instant subscriber out of me.
Totally agree about the date complication, it is the second most important information that a watch provides. Great video!
Purchased a Black Heritage as I am a big guy. Absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I regularly receive complements on it. My next watch will be a Sea Dweller.
The steel versions still need:
- micro adjustment on the bracelet like the bronze version
- fully brushed case
- date complication
- open case-back like the 925
Love your ideas. METAS certification too.
@@MPD90 Polished case= dress watch, brushed case= tool watch.
The date is very useful for some people, including myself and my work.
Open back shows the movement, which is always interesting to see and even show to non watch people so they can understand how it works.
I am waiting for for a BB58 with a ceramic bezel. To me that would finally make the watch perfect.
The Uncle Seiko half link for the BB58 saved the watch for me. Made it fit perfect.
Your accent and voice is very charming. Great points in the video too.
I have just got a 39 day old Blue at a huge saving on retail and your videos helped me choose. Keep up the great work.
I daily drive a Professional Seiko LX Black on Black with the Spring Drive movement and, the Titanium grade 5 is nice way better than Titanium grade 2, LX is equipped with day date, Zaratsu finish, oh yeah ceramic dial, 300 meter saturation level, 72 hour power reserve meter yup, also LX looks great on women.
The gold outline looks nice on the snowflake hands 👍🏼
I got mine today, left the micro adjust in the middle position and took out a link either side, perfect fit
I tried on the 925 recently and that watch looks better in person than in any of the videos I’ve seen. The many shops I looked at recently in Lucerne, Zürich, and Stuttgart all had most to all of the models available. Your comment about the size is correct. I have an 18.4 cm wrist and the BB58 did look a bit on the small side.
Get the Bronze, it's the coolest of them all
Agreed, it’s the hour hand that kills it! Been thinking about buying one but always the Hour hand…😢
Hey hey, on the edge of 200k subscribers 😮👏
Congrats on your 200,000 subscribers Jenni, very well deserved!
Many, many people do not know that silver can be cleaned. It will tarnish and if you don’t do anything it will eventually turn blueish black. Don’t let it come that far. There are impregnated cloths available for normal maintenance and your watch will stay bright.
Take the blue one 😉
The BB58 is SO brilliant! Just gorgeous! Great discussion!
I do like the Blue 58, but prefer the aesthetics of the Black 58 more, for me that’s the one I’ll be saving for. Maybe by the time I can afford one they will have introduced the quick adjustment clasp to the rest of the range!!
I was also in between sizes of the bracelet and it was a little discouraging. However, there are a few options out there to resolve the lack of adjustment of the clasp that you could explore. I have both the half link from Uncle Seiko and the on-the-fly extension link from Steel Reef and they are just game changers. Nowadays I only use the extension link and the watch fits perfectly everytime.
As the owner of a fairly decent watch collection consisting of pieces from Rolex, Omega, JLC, AP, PP, and cartier….I will say my Tudor BB58 blue is my favorite. Simply a perfect piece!
Wow I had no idea that the silver on the 925 could still tarnish. Thanks for the update!
My watch'925' has already turned gray.
@@user-hm7vz2me3h 😳
The best watch on the market! A modern icon.
Yea if you're into vintage hommage watches its not everyone's cup of tea.
The irony is that it isn’t “modern” at all, but an homage to vintage dive watches.
The original black & gold bb58 looks like a gypsies fireplace.
Great vid but you’d have to be a bit silly to pay over rrp for any Tudor
I decided on the blue BB58 over the black. I think the blue is more versatile for my style. A date window was a must for me until I started wearing automatics and rotating watches. I think the BB58 is close to being my perfect watch.
I have to agree with you. I much prefer blue model to black one.
I've always liked the BB58 in Black Gilt. Also I totally use your nick name, White Walker, for that Yacht Master! Best name for it period!
If I didn't have a cell phone or wall calendar, a watch with a date complication would be a must.
The BB 58 Blue is for WINNERS
Any color as long as its black - Henry Ford
Jenny, don't forget the 'sweet spot' of 3 different watches for £10,000. The BB 58 is a great contribution to a 10k set. A rolex sub would push that budget.
i actively look for watches with no date haha
What most people find is that the experience is not, in fact, that of an affordable Rolex.
I had the heritage 41mm and while I didn't mind the dimensions or thickness, it was the weight that killed it for me. Sold it to fund the 58 and I love it. Definitely a keeper for me.
I like the White Walker too 😉
Fabulous video again Jenni. 55,000 views in 2 days! You are spot on with your opinions and views and such a warm personable presenter.
Nice one!
I take a Seiko spb 147 or SPB239👍🏻
This video has made me so very sad! I have a 7.75 inch wrist and have been saving up and dreaming of getting a BB 58 Blue. 😢
Nice one Jenni! When I purchased my Pelagos LHD nearly a year ago I was shown a blue BB58 that someone ordered but decided not to purchase. That watch looked fantastic but I stepped out of the store with my Pelagos. Over the following days I did wonder if I should have gone for the BB58 as it was now sold and the country was again in lock down. A month or so later I did get a BB58 in black via an alleged online order error as these were by appointment only but with no appointments in lock down I managed to get it. I made the right choice to get the black one. The blue is great but for me the black is my preference. I completely agree that the Rolex Submariner is a totally different watch. From a personal perspective my preference is a no date watch for symmetry or if it has a date then my preferred date position is at 6 o'clock. That's why my Sub has no date. I must say that having seen the BB458 in gold it is gorgeous, I want one and it's on my list but at the price there are a few others that are above it.
Love my BB58 blue dial but would be nice to have a date & quick adjust.
Okay okay, twist my arm... I guess I'll splurge xD This is my grail watch for the most part and at 5k CAD, that's no modest amount to spend in my tax bracket. Really glad to have watched this video and gain more insight. What a stunning piece!!
I love the fact that you're still rocking the apple watch on the right wrist. Once I make my Black Bay 58 purchase, I'll likely do the same to continue my daily tracking. I thought it might look a bit silly but it actually doesn't at all IMO.
When I need the day function then I wear my Rolex Datejust or Explorer Ii and when not my Tudor BB 41mm or my Omega Speedy Moonwatch
Substitute for a Rolex? For me any Rolex is a substitute to this beauty. 😀