The black dial uses rose gold gilt, not yellow. I tried on the blue dial, liked it. Then I tried on the black/gilt and fell in love with it. My BB58 is on the Tudor leather strap, which enhances the warm tones of the dial and bezel far better than the bracelet. I have bonded with this lovely watch, wear it daily. It is as close as I will ever come to owning a new four digit Sub. I own two Rolexes and love them, but my favorite watch in my collection is my Tudor.
Ah I see. Well I guess the rose gold guilt was still too gold for me 😅 Good to hear mate! Either colour, the watch is pretty great. I really don’t think there’s a proper substitute for near the same price :)
@@libertyv5426 check the 925 in person and see how silver plays with the light. It's the most 'light friendly' metal element. Very different from any steel, white gold or platinum. At a glance, nothing special to most people, but for the wearer and owner, it's an appreciation that you can bond and grow with from one day to the next.
I'm a sucker for blue dials and bought the Tudor BB58 Navy Blue back in Nov 21 and absolutely love it. Fresh, more youthful take on the original Black/gilt version (which I also own). Excellent in-house movement (Kenissi is a joint venture with Breitling and Chanel), strong lume and 70 hrs power reserve. It has that special hint of a Rolex Sub, but it can stand on its own two feet IMO, especially when nearly £1,800 less than an Omega SM300 in July 2022, and let's not even mention what a Sub's retail availability and cost is currently.
I've been eyeing both black and blue BB58 ever since it was out. It's interesting that great watches will still be desirable after years. Since I don't have a blue dial, I thought blue was the way to go. But after more than a year, now I gravitate towards the black. First of all, it has red in it! The black has that vintage sub quality with a bit of vintage seamaster feel as well. The blue feels younger, and the black feels more classic. Hits of yellow gold is acceptable as the text is in yellow gold hue, and makes it more vintage while not over doing it. Don't like faux patina or faux rivets but then again, I'm not a purist especially when the overall aethetics and price more than compensates. Well price is a little steep to be honest. Hence I keep oscillating between Tudor and Oris. BB58 still does get immediate visual attention. I think Blue is something you go for if you already have a main watch, which I do. I'm torn nonetheless.
Interesting thoughts. I completely get the oscillating between the two. Tough choice. For me it’s the gilt and faux patina that I’m not a fan of. Oris also provides great value at this price point but it comes down to whether it’s a question of putting off the Tudor for later or whether Oris is a true alternative.
Beautiful watch and good quality, I think the proportions of this timepiece are perfect. I love this BB58 blue, the aluminum bezel and the very slight difference in colors between the bezel and the dial together with the curvature of the glass provide a depth that is characteristic of the best watches. A must have in my opinion. I really don’t understand why to sell it, maybe people buy it to get a Rolex that maybe is not so beautiful as this BB58. Great video, bye.
Your sentiments match mine. I just acquired this watch for the third time. I honestly think it’ll stick this time. I’ve tried a lot in the price range and realize few watches offer the package that this one does. If only that t-fit clasp were available.
Yes exactly! I have no clue why the T Fit is not yet available on it. Makes no sense considering they introduced the clasp on the BB58 bronze. So clearly the have the clasp designed for these measurements already. I think it’s a temporary thing, meant only to thwart sales towards BB Pro and now the new Ranger
Great video. You're really good at articulating your thoughts. So keep it up :) I'm considering the blue one now as secondary market prices are low, and I prefer it greatly over the black one as I can't stand all the gilt either.
Nice review. Agree that blue bay 58 is still king in the price range but Oris offer in-house aquis at similar price now with 5 day power reserve and 10 year warranty. I prefer Tudor design though
Thanks! Yeah the Aquis is such a good option in the range. I think anyone that doesn't care for the Tudor aesthetic that much would be happier with that over this. Of course, provided that all their initial QC issues with the movement are completely resolved and there's no longer a need to be careful with setting the movement.
I own a LOT of high-end watches from the likes of Rolex, Omega, AP, PP, ALS, Cartier, JLC, etc. If I had to sell everything except one, I’d keep my Tudor BB58 blue. It’s just THAT good!
That’s the feeling I got while spending time with it too! It’s like a really good staple of any collection - even makes perfect for a “one watch collection”.
#tudorbros great video brother 👏 as you know the OG bb58 is one of the favorites in my collection. My boy Omar use to own this model, but honestly I still like my color-way a little better. None the less the BB58 line is a hell of a proposition and I would encourage anyone to check one out! Keep up the great work brother!
Thanks brooo! #tudorbros ftw 🙌 I know how special the black one is for you, especially considering the GMT came and left after getting the black! I’ve gotta see if Omar made a video on why he sold it, I’m curious.. It’s even better than I expected it to be, dimensionally speaking.
It would still be more expensive than the BB58. Either way, the Seamaster is a more modern design while the Black Bay line is more vintage. Sure specs wise the Omega is better, that’s why it costs more. But other than that, it comes down to what design langue you want.
I have the Omega 2254 and I agree, BUT the newer Omega Seamasters are too thick - so they would have top address that and remove the Helium Escape Valve in a 39.5 to truly match the design and look.
@@AliensWanted Nice, I just picked up a 2255 electric blue. I actually like the HE valve. Its a quirk that is distinctly Omega, yet still functional although not commonly used. They could also make the coaxials a little thinner or at least manipulate the case design to appear thinner. I actually don't mind a little thickness if it can appear proportional on wrist. Conversely, Tudor does a horrible job at making thin watches look thick with the slab sided design
@@StandardTime I second your thoughts, the blue version is the MUCH better looking option from the two, in every sense. The color speaks for itself. I also immensely dislike Gilt hands and accents in watches, generally speaking. Plus add the faux patina… terrible! Blue is the way to go!
The black has warmth. It's neo vintage. It swaps pumpkin patina (Omega would just put orange lume), for rose gold. The blue? Shouldn't even be called a 58. It has nothing to do with 1958. There is only one true 58. They should have given it square plops like a Pelagos, and called it the BB73, (if numbers outside of the 41mm are to indicate year). There is nothing vintage about any of the ensuing 58 models (save for maybe the 925.) If you don't like the vintage look, then you don't like the BB58. It's literally supposed to be a 1958 reissue.
Power reserve is the only noticeable difference to a wearer. The Tissots aren’t the same bracket of watch. Like I said, it’s not entirely about the specs.
@@StandardTime by the way, you have great content … but your delivery have to change. Have you thought of bringing in another person into the video? It might take a lot of weight off and you will be more relax…
I can see that argument with Omega. I think Breitling have a smaller clientele than Tudor due to their sizing and designs. Tudors brand value seems to be lifted purely by its connection to Rolex. But yes, definitely less popular overall than both.
Who cares. I'm not into flash in the pan trends. The blue, I don't care for, but the black is timeless. They're only 'played out' in the watch community. In real life, how many people have you run into wearing one? It is a classic, it will never be out. In the real world, nobody cares about watches. The 1% of people you meet who are into the hobby, likely still won't have the same watch you're wearing. People need to get off the community microscope and understand that any watch you own is still pretty original. Even if it's a DateJust (which is admittedly the most common luxury watch I encounter at work). I've rarely seen the same ref/style in my organic encounters. 36, 41, vintage, newer, fluted/smooth, oyster/jubilee, ss/two-tone, diamond/stick, dial variants....They're still all different. Only 'played out' in our tiny, insignificant bubble of a world.
100%. It's funny because when i watch videos on TH-cam where they claim that they see "x" watch everywhere, i always have no idea what they're talking about. Without a doubt, the most common watch i see everywhere on everyone's wrists where i live are Apple Watches. Maybe it's because where i live? I don't know. I work in healthcare where several of my colleagues make quite lucrative salaries and most, if not all, are not wearing luxury brand watches (**i do see them driving luxury vehicles though). The only time i see common luxury watches/brands are on TH-cam, or when i'm on vacation in Las Vegas or something like that. I feel the watch enthusiast population is really quite small, despite the numerous TH-cam enthusiast channels
I have the black and it looks great with almost anything you wear- I would love to have the blue that’s awesome
The black dial uses rose gold gilt, not yellow. I tried on the blue dial, liked it. Then I tried on the black/gilt and fell in love with it. My BB58 is on the Tudor leather strap, which enhances the warm tones of the dial and bezel far better than the bracelet. I have bonded with this lovely watch, wear it daily. It is as close as I will ever come to owning a new four digit Sub. I own two Rolexes and love them, but my favorite watch in my collection is my Tudor.
Ah I see. Well I guess the rose gold guilt was still too gold for me 😅
Good to hear mate! Either colour, the watch is pretty great. I really don’t think there’s a proper substitute for near the same price :)
Very interesting and good to hear. Glad you shared your experience.
My brother feels the same about his black BB58. Looks sharp as hell and he loves it. I'd have to do a blue since I can't copy my bro.
@@libertyv5426 check the 925 in person and see how silver plays with the light. It's the most 'light friendly' metal element. Very different from any steel, white gold or platinum.
At a glance, nothing special to most people, but for the wearer and owner, it's an appreciation that you can bond and grow with from one day to the next.
Yep. Chose the black and gilt over the blue with the same mindset a year ago. I plan on keeping and passing this one on.
I'm a sucker for blue dials and bought the Tudor BB58 Navy Blue back in Nov 21 and absolutely love it. Fresh, more youthful take on the original Black/gilt version (which I also own). Excellent in-house movement (Kenissi is a joint venture with Breitling and Chanel), strong lume and 70 hrs power reserve. It has that special hint of a Rolex Sub, but it can stand on its own two feet IMO, especially when nearly £1,800 less than an Omega SM300 in July 2022, and let's not even mention what a Sub's retail availability and cost is currently.
Congrats on the acquisition, Andy! Fully agree with your thoughts on this
Guys, im looking to buy a tudor bb58 blue complete set, someone is offering me 2200 usd, is that a good deal??
Very good deal, did you go through with that?
I've been eyeing both black and blue BB58 ever since it was out. It's interesting that great watches will still be desirable after years. Since I don't have a blue dial, I thought blue was the way to go. But after more than a year, now I gravitate towards the black. First of all, it has red in it! The black has that vintage sub quality with a bit of vintage seamaster feel as well. The blue feels younger, and the black feels more classic. Hits of yellow gold is acceptable as the text is in yellow gold hue, and makes it more vintage while not over doing it. Don't like faux patina or faux rivets but then again, I'm not a purist especially when the overall aethetics and price more than compensates. Well price is a little steep to be honest. Hence I keep oscillating between Tudor and Oris. BB58 still does get immediate visual attention. I think Blue is something you go for if you already have a main watch, which I do. I'm torn nonetheless.
Interesting thoughts. I completely get the oscillating between the two. Tough choice. For me it’s the gilt and faux patina that I’m not a fan of. Oris also provides great value at this price point but it comes down to whether it’s a question of putting off the Tudor for later or whether Oris is a true alternative.
It's my understanding that Tudor owns Kineses movement company, and they also make movements for other companies. Not the other way around.
Beautiful watch and good quality, I think the proportions of this timepiece are perfect. I love this BB58 blue, the aluminum bezel and the very slight difference in colors between the bezel and the dial together with the curvature of the glass provide a depth that is characteristic of the best watches. A must have in my opinion. I really don’t understand why to sell it, maybe people buy it to get a Rolex that maybe is not so beautiful as this BB58. Great video, bye.
Thanks Salvatore!
The 911 correction killed me 😂😂😂
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Your sentiments match mine. I just acquired this watch for the third time. I honestly think it’ll stick this time. I’ve tried a lot in the price range and realize few watches offer the package that this one does. If only that t-fit clasp were available.
Yes exactly! I have no clue why the T Fit is not yet available on it. Makes no sense considering they introduced the clasp on the BB58 bronze. So clearly the have the clasp designed for these measurements already. I think it’s a temporary thing, meant only to thwart sales towards BB Pro and now the new Ranger
Great video. You're really good at articulating your thoughts. So keep it up :) I'm considering the blue one now as secondary market prices are low, and I prefer it greatly over the black one as I can't stand all the gilt either.
There are tons of BB58 Blue models listed on Chrono24....way more than the Gilt. Why are some many people selling the BB58 Blue???
Perhaps it’s because values of the blue have fallen. When the blue was launched, people were dumping the black in favour of it
Still a great video and summary a year later! I agree: the blue is better. I had the black and it just felt like too many poor design choices to me.
Nice review. Agree that blue bay 58 is still king in the price range but Oris offer in-house aquis at similar price now with 5 day power reserve and 10 year warranty. I prefer Tudor design though
Thanks! Yeah the Aquis is such a good option in the range. I think anyone that doesn't care for the Tudor aesthetic that much would be happier with that over this. Of course, provided that all their initial QC issues with the movement are completely resolved and there's no longer a need to be careful with setting the movement.
I own a LOT of high-end watches from the likes of Rolex, Omega, AP, PP, ALS, Cartier, JLC, etc. If I had to sell everything except one, I’d keep my Tudor BB58 blue. It’s just THAT good!
That’s the feeling I got while spending time with it too! It’s like a really good staple of any collection - even makes perfect for a “one watch collection”.
I own the blue and the black. Love m
Tudor watches are one of the best value for money watches on the market, their build quality is fabulous, well we all know why
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Even though most people rave about Tudor, it’s still not overrated. I get why people often pick Tudor over GS too now.
Love the black one!!!
Great video and voice over. Subbed !👌
How much is the difference between the Seamaster diver 300 vs the Aquaterra in term of price?
Seamaster aqua terra is $6,300
I own two years and still use it everyday. It doesnt matter scratch...
Blue or black? Thoughts on the faux rivets?
@@StandardTime blue blue
Love you videos 👏👏👏, your presentation catches my attention 👌
Thanks Laurence! I really appreciate the feedback, I’m always looking to improve my presentation style :)
@@StandardTime 👏👏👏👏
I just got my first high end pagani… love it!
sinn u50, 39.5 planet ocean omega or pelagos 39
Ooh that's a tough one! I might have to give the Tudor the edge. Mainly cause I just like the bigger POs
My brother has the black and loves it. It's super nice. Great vid!
I’ve spent more time with the black too. Solid watch! Thanks Liberty 👊
#tudorbros great video brother 👏 as you know the OG bb58 is one of the favorites in my collection. My boy Omar use to own this model, but honestly I still like my color-way a little better. None the less the BB58 line is a hell of a proposition and I would encourage anyone to check one out!
Keep up the great work brother!
Thanks brooo! #tudorbros ftw 🙌
I know how special the black one is for you, especially considering the GMT came and left after getting the black! I’ve gotta see if Omar made a video on why he sold it, I’m curious..
It’s even better than I expected it to be, dimensionally speaking.
@@StandardTime Honestly I don’t know why he sold it, but he wants it back 😂
I have owned a Longines Hydroconquest and it looks nice but, it is not anywhere near the Quality of the Tudor BB58 in any category.
If Omega ever decides to make a 39.5mm seamaster at the same price range, it would destroy tudor and possibly give rolex a real run for its money.
Most certainly! Especially with their powerhouse of a movement
It would still be more expensive than the BB58. Either way, the Seamaster is a more modern design while the Black Bay line is more vintage. Sure specs wise the Omega is better, that’s why it costs more. But other than that, it comes down to what design langue you want.
I have the Omega 2254 and I agree, BUT the newer Omega Seamasters are too thick - so they would have top address that and remove the Helium Escape Valve in a 39.5 to truly match the design and look.
@@AliensWanted Nice, I just picked up a 2255 electric blue. I actually like the HE valve. Its a quirk that is distinctly Omega, yet still functional although not commonly used. They could also make the coaxials a little thinner or at least manipulate the case design to appear thinner. I actually don't mind a little thickness if it can appear proportional on wrist.
Conversely, Tudor does a horrible job at making thin watches look thick with the slab sided design
I dont think alot of watch enthusiast pay alot attention to super specs watch, theyd still care more about the aesthetics.
Tudor BB54 will be the new king in 2023!
I think you’re right!
The black version BB58 is better looking and looks more mature than the blue version.
Agree to disagree :)
@@StandardTime the truth cannot be disagreed.
@@StandardTime I second your thoughts, the blue version is the MUCH better looking option from the two, in every sense. The color speaks for itself. I also immensely dislike Gilt hands and accents in watches, generally speaking. Plus add the faux patina… terrible! Blue is the way to go!
The black has warmth. It's neo vintage. It swaps pumpkin patina (Omega would just put orange lume), for rose gold.
The blue? Shouldn't even be called a 58. It has nothing to do with 1958. There is only one true 58.
They should have given it square plops like a Pelagos, and called it the BB73, (if numbers outside of the 41mm are to indicate year).
There is nothing vintage about any of the ensuing 58 models (save for maybe the 925.)
If you don't like the vintage look, then you don't like the BB58. It's literally supposed to be a 1958 reissue.
Why are you comparing power reserve as a big deal. A Tissot powermatic which cost few hundred dollars have 80 hours power reserve.
Power reserve is the only noticeable difference to a wearer. The Tissots aren’t the same bracket of watch. Like I said, it’s not entirely about the specs.
@@StandardTime by the way, you have great content … but your delivery have to change. Have you thought of bringing in another person into the video? It might take a lot of weight off and you will be more relax…
Honestly. I don’t think Tudor can compare with breitling or omega. I think Tudor brand level is little higher than longines or maybe same as tag hauer
I can see that argument with Omega. I think Breitling have a smaller clientele than Tudor due to their sizing and designs. Tudors brand value seems to be lifted purely by its connection to Rolex. But yes, definitely less popular overall than both.
Omega brand level is much higher than Tudor.
Who cares. I'm not into flash in the pan trends. The blue, I don't care for, but the black is timeless.
They're only 'played out' in the watch community. In real life, how many people have you run into wearing one? It is a classic, it will never be out. In the real world, nobody cares about watches. The 1% of people you meet who are into the hobby, likely still won't have the same watch you're wearing.
People need to get off the community microscope and understand that any watch you own is still pretty original. Even if it's a DateJust (which is admittedly the most common luxury watch I encounter at work). I've rarely seen the same ref/style in my organic encounters. 36, 41, vintage, newer, fluted/smooth, oyster/jubilee, ss/two-tone, diamond/stick, dial variants....They're still all different. Only 'played out' in our tiny, insignificant bubble of a world.
Well said.
100%. It's funny because when i watch videos on TH-cam where they claim that they see "x" watch everywhere, i always have no idea what they're talking about. Without a doubt, the most common watch i see everywhere on everyone's wrists where i live are Apple Watches. Maybe it's because where i live? I don't know. I work in healthcare where several of my colleagues make quite lucrative salaries and most, if not all, are not wearing luxury brand watches (**i do see them driving luxury vehicles though). The only time i see common luxury watches/brands are on TH-cam, or when i'm on vacation in Las Vegas or something like that. I feel the watch enthusiast population is really quite small, despite the numerous TH-cam enthusiast channels
@@jicalzad I'm also in Healthcare (ER). That's where I spot all the watches but it's still sparse. Tons of Apple Watch as you said.
Very true! I have the black and it’s awesome
9/11...Porsche 911 :)
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I’ll sell you a new one….
Dommage que le bleue du cadran soit si different du bleue de l insert de lunette, c est très moche pour une montre a ce prix