This is the whole conversation with the master. To kill master this way, you have to have high speech skill and charisma and you also must have autopsy report from the Brotherhood of Steel.
He realized he basically destroyed several vaults for nothing. He now has an army of Mutants out there and it’s all got not. Plus he’s connected to a computer and is probably able to make computations much faster than we can.
Virgin Edward "Caesar" Sallow: Noo you must agreed to my shitty ideology or I'll hanged you on the cross! Chad Richard "Master" Grey: You right, my mutant forces are unable to reproduce thus make them unable to replace humanity therefore I must stopped this madness.
That bit where all the voices say "be" always gets me. Like every single one of them is just completely devastated by the realization you've just dropped on them.
i dont think that all of thise voices are seperate minds but the representation of Master's personality: female's voice is a humanity and feelings, robotic voice is logic and decision and crazy voice is anger and violence and all of them saying imo means that Master got broken to his teeth with the info he learnd
@Lautaro Lencina actually he grey who explored the mariposa base with harold. harold got knocked out and eventually turned into a setiet tree in the capital wastelands while grey got knoced into a fev vat. he absorbed rats and other vermin when figuring out his new form and its hinted he absorbed some wanderers who were too curious for their own good. then he bonded with the vaults overseer chair which is probably where the robot voice comes from. but it does seem like they now reflect parts of his mind with the female cropping up when talking of join and protect while the male crops up during die and normals. finally his main voice is his original self and the robot is the logical part.
@@q_taipan You...ever read the backstory of the Master? Why he's so...melty and gross and everywhere? He used FEV to "absorb" all of his failed experiments into himself, and there's no longer one single mind in there. He *canonically* has dozens-if not hundreds-of individual personalities.
I actually quite respect this master guy. Once it was proven that his life-long ideal was flawed, he admitted his shortcoming and accepted his defeat. That's something many fictional villains and even people in real life find difficult to do.
As much as I have to applaud the delivery and overall execution of the 'Master' Richard Grey, it's completely preposterous that the genius 'scientist and philosopher' couldn't have forseen such a principle concept like sterility in his master race. Despite his unhinged character, he is ultimately willing to listen to reason, which makes this gaping plot hole all the more mind-boggling. His infatuation with super mutants, moreover, is largely unjustified. The master race is profoundly stupid, given only one intelligent super mutant exists: the Lieutenant, or how the rest of the grunts amusingly prefer, simply 'Lou'. The Master clearly stated that he wished for a race of simpletons incapable of having differences to coexist peacefully, but this overall plan is morally dubious. What's the point of the mutants after the apocalypse is over? The Master wants the apocalypse to remain as it is forever, otherwise the mutants and his plan become worthless. Only an extremely rigorous argument can justify genocide of human 'normals' so that a race of content simpletons can live peacefully within a hostile, horrifying wasteland; what we recieve instead is a passionate yet arrogant rant from the Master disaster. Furthermore, this whole plan is terribly dissonant with the themes and general atmosphere of the game. The conclusion of apparent human weakness is surface-level. The majority of 'normals' are rather neutral or, if 'evil', principally misguided. Though the Khans, the Gizmos, the mercs and criminals of the wasteland undoubtedly possess malicious intent, the moral 'good' demonstrated by the Brotherhood, the Followers, Killian, and many, many upholders of justice eradicates a sensible connection to the Master's point. The player character is so powerful they can literally shape the future of the entire world (as we know it) by their actions alone. Normals obviously aren't tearing themselves apart with differences-they're rebuilding civilization, and they're rebuilding themselves. Is the atomic bomb destined to repeat? Well, if people so unbelievably gifted and virtuous like the canon Fallout P.C. exist, perhaps not. The future, though hazardous and fraught with peril, still holds much opportunity for the development of humanity. ... Bah, what a digression. Anyhow, Master and original FO had a lot of wasted potential, and they probably would have captured it had they addressed my aforementioned points.
@@danutmh I haven't heard of this incident. If it's true, then it's caused by a typo, whereas the Master had years upon years of deliberate planning and complex philosophizing. I find it unbelievable that a state of delusion would sustain such a character for so long.
The "It can't be. Be. Be. Be." Is a deceptively powerful line. I think it's meant to represent that every 'part' of the master has reached acceptance. Every facet of his personality realizes the horror of what he's done.
This is so well done. Looking at this now makes me realize how this is one of those rare magic video game moments. This is honestly the best example of how to do an interactive story that there is. To get The Master to kill himself you don't just charm him with a high enough speech skill with obvious "speech options" highlighted for your dumb ass, you have to have the seemingly insignificant holodisk on your possession, and then you have to had actually read the thing because the game even tries to trick you into backing out as the Master believes it to be lies. Anyone who had just been casually clicking through the dialogue and not reading the optional stuff would have been completely stumped by this. it's designed to test your convictions and prove that you, no not your character, YOU actually know that the mutants are sterile and that his plan won't work. That is just brilliant! I feel like I genuinely beat The Master not with my plasma rifle but with determination and reason. And that is the best fucking compliment I can give this game. It is the only game I have ever played where I beat a boss with my own judgement.
Yep and it's not even this one thing is like that either, the whole game is. You have to talk to people to find out the locations of certain places and items and their wasn't even stuff like a quest log you just had to remember what tasks people asked of you and whatnot.
+Kolbe Howard Well,I kinda agree with you but you are yet wrong in 1 term.There are multiple instances in Fallout:NV in which you had 2 choices.Pass the speech with skill or by choosing right dialogues(reading them ofc).And when you speak to Ulysses there are 2 speech checks which give different effects.
+Google User Even then, you have to get a certain autopsy report from the Brotherhood of Steel and spend tons of points into speech skill in order to convince the Master that his plan is doomed to fail. So its not like its just a 180 in an instance of conversation
His idea of unity isn'bad. And even so I dislike them the Mutants really are best suited for the wasteland. He is one of the best villains in the world.
I met Jim Cummings at a Con some years back and when asked about this role, he had zero recollection about it. He mentioned how in video games, you're pretty much in a booth by yourself and reading through lines with no idea who the character is. The fact that he had no idea who The Master was still and gave such a powerful performance is mind blowing
Especially since due to the nature of the Master having multiple voices, he likely had to do small chunks of dialogue at a time for the sound editors to put together later along with Kath Soucie’s voice, but it comes together almost seamlessly (though there are a few awkward pauses in some of his dialogue, which might be a result of it being planned to be edited later, but they didn’t edit those particular lines. At least, that’s my speculation).
I've heard from people like Elias Toufexis that he has a really good idea of who Adam Jensen is, so I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that it was a video game.
Id definitely say he was given a rough idea of the character its just he has done so much in his career no way he could pin point each memory and be like oh yeah I remember that one exactly to the tee.
I always thought that the master was the scariest character in all of gaming due to his scary appearance and personality; i even think those extra voices in the dialogue make him terrifying; i think that they did a really good job in perfecting the most threatening and scary villain in all of gaming.
@@peppermillers8361 What I really dislike in modern games they give you the deep female voice as a computer, it's not really much cool than the cute voice speaking to you. It makes me think that those type of high pitch voices are always responsive and able to do so.
@@WindiChilliwack I don't mind it but I get what you mean. Can you give an example? I was thinking maybe like SHODAN, but I feel like her voice isn't that deep to begin with.
@@peppermillers8361 IF you play Starcraft 1, did you remember original Adjudant's voice? It seems more life-like and ready, like the human race tried to create an AI that sounded more living like than just a robot, while in Starcraft 2 and similar games with the deep female voice, it's just the basic assisting robot. You gotta get a voice that seems more responsive and ready like, it's more prepared. just like the male AI voice in Doom Eternal.
Master is an excellent villain on account of how human he is underneath the disgusting mutations. A misguided genius that, when presented with the fatal flaw in his final solution, admits defeat. Simply gives up. He is not trying to fight against his doom. He is incredibly smart and knows that there is no course of action to save the mutants. He just asks you to leave so that he can grieve the loss of an entire race that he was supposed to be responsible for. In his final monologue, you can hear the immense devastation in his tone as he recognizes the inevitable. Whew, it's intense! Fallout, its world, and its characters are so incredibly well developed.
Not just the super mutants. Remember he believed that the mutants were the only hope for intelligent life to survive in the nuclear wasteland. It’s why he pushed so hard to turn humans. And he just learned that the race he thought was the last chance humanity had will last only one generation. The future he slaughtered many in the name of would be doomed to a faster end than the one he is trying to prevent. When he tells you to “leave while you still have hope,” it’s because he believes humanity is truly doomed.
He really is a great villain, he's so logical and has utter conviction in his actions, unlike a certain other robotic presidential end boss! A sympathetic villain is always so much more effective than a cartoonish evil one.
+TheUndyingCrystal Tolkien himself didn't consider Sauron pure evil though, as he didn't believe in existence of pure evil. He merely called Sauron someone who had become so close to pure evil as it was possible.
Th. Noatak IIRC, he considered Sauron worse than Melkor (I think it is even flat out said in Silmarillion that Sauron was remarkable in having beaten his master in evil). So I guess no, he didn't consider even Melkor one. Even Satan fell, there was time when he wasn't evil.
Also, I know you will hate me for this, but FNV is IMO even better than the older Fallouts. While it has their freedom and equally good dialogues and plot, the combat is interesting. I liked the. original Fallouts, but in F2 I hated combat and eventually stopped playing in the middle of the game because of it. And it's not about it being turn-based (I love XCOMs).
The writing of this dialogue is nothing but pure genius. They managed to make you feel sad and empathetic for someone absolutely repulsive looking and that was supposed to be the big evil guy. The last line is truly heartbreaking when you know the background of the Master.
This is actually the saddest ending because the master wasn't bad he was just misguided. If you think about it he actually wanted to save the future by creating a race of super mutants well equipped to trek the barren wastelands of fallout but when he finds out his mutants are sterile he realizes that he failed to make a better future but instead created a race that will die out in the next generation end that last line "leave now while you still have hope" actually gave me a genuine feeling of sadness.
The RisenPride The Master never stated that he wanted to control people. He only wanted to force them to be mutants to survive better. He even stated that he would let people live but only under unity protection so that mutants would be the sole race (thinking mutants are better equipped for the wasteland). Difference is that the Master thinks he is a messiah (which he would be if the FEV virus didn't make people sterile). The Enclave just wants to take over the world. Big difference.
Man I hate the NCR, at least the enclave is straightforward about their intentions, hell even the legion is, the ncr puts on a friendly facade even tho these 3 factions have pretty much the same goal.
FIlho Da Puta They all try to rebuilt an old civilization, but all of them would fail because it didn't work before, what chance do they have to try to get it working again. This is why I preferred the Mr House ending and The Courier taking over New Vegas ending.
What I love the most is that each of his voices is meant for different moments and emotions, and are the different people merged in him, but when you show the proof, his next sentece ends with a "be" that is repeated by every voice. They were all simuntaneously shocked and broken and it's the first time you see them all sharing a though like this.
+kyle hicks Theres absolute nothing "wrong" about the masters goals. Its the freaking wasteland and everyone is going to die anyway. Being a super mutant is for sure better, and nobody needs reproduction if you can simply "clone" , easy solution. And ofcourse, nobody has to stop changing the FEV virus. Whos to say there wont be one that still allows reproduction in the future, just keep a bunch of humans around just in case. Totally viable way , theres no "evil" in it.
+ThisNameIsBanned yeah but what the master failed to see was the lack of unity in his very own creations play new vegas, watch the interactions between nightkin and the muties
That's what makes an effective villain, imo. Rather than just being "evil" or a "bad guy", they are usually just the one being with opposing goals to the protagonist.
"Leave now, while you still have 'hope'......" Its this line that really gets me, because a big theme, if not THE theme of the original Fallout game was hope. Hope to save your people, other people, to do something of value in this world that's just tearing itself apart. For me, this theme comes out the strongest in New Vegas, not because of what the writers put in it, but allowed us to imagine with its Wild Card Ending. Now, Oxhorn has had a video discussing what was wrong with this ending in his opinion....but I strongly disagree with the implications he though happened. Too much of this ending is summing up the immediate effects of changing the power in the Mojave, and the chaos that comes with trying to establish it. However; the game was limited in what could be done because of its short development time, and because any effects you wanted to have had to be directly written in. So, if say, you had a good karmaed character that just didn't see any of the other major powers as right, and wanted to form a new government with the power of a Securitron Army, the option wasn't really there, and ultimately came down to what the player could imagine.
In any other franchise (or even modern Fallout) the master probably would have said simply "Get out while you still can!" But no. The master's last line tells him to leave while he still has ... Hope. He's not just referring to getting out of the bomb radius. He's talking about the world. The *hope* that maybe, just maybe, the wprld can be rebuilt and LEARN from the past mistakes, including the Master's own attempt to rebuidl the world .... How heartbreaking. but also, wonderfully optimistic. No wonder the Vault Dweller founded Arroyo. And it's amazing how successful it becomes.
"There is no hope. Leave now. Leave while you still have...hope...." Honestly heartbreaking. As messed up as it was, The Master really believed he was saving life on Earth. And then prove it was pointless.
Richard Grey and Harold were one of the most interesting characters in the Fallout franchise, one wanted to make a equal army of mutants, other some how started the beauty of nature life again which is quite interesting. Got to admit that the Master was a alright mutant, so the Vault Dweller had to set him straight.
@@Godzilla691138MW3 agreed. I played new vegas first and came out to love the first one. All the timed limit quest was unforgivable yet a fun experience.
1:08 Of course, PC's are best equipped to deal with the world today. Who else? The playstations? Please. Xbox? They brought DRM to us all. This will be the age of the PC. PC!
PC=mutants further more, KILL THE MUTIANTS! but in all serousness, it was the consoles of old that gave rise too the PC gaming, and PC gaming is... a bit... How do I put it. crybaby like? I mean sure graphics and mods are awesome, but when it goes to to console gaming, the PC elitists almost CRY about it. Console gaming is a lot simpler and has it's advantages and disadvantages.
The only character in the entire series with dialogue as good as the Master's(or anyone else in the original fallout games(1&2))is Ulysses from Fallout: New Vegas.
Oh there's plenty of other great dialogues, especially in NV. "Drug talk" with Myron, negotiating with either Lanius or General Oliver, Chief Hanlon, Caesar, Joshua Graham...
just finished fallout 1, holy fuck I had this conversation and I felt like my own judgement and attention to the holodisks paid off. Way better than having stuff highlighted or having [Speech] next to something.
Hamich Samich I thought the lesson it tried to taugth was that "the end justify the means" is a flawed perception. Taking the mutants as a clever analogy. Our violent, opressive, or immoral actions, if well-intentioned, take away the human part of us, our feelings, and empathy for others, the collective spirit that makes us the "humanity". And thus, as numb, sterile beings, is not worth to survive anymore, there's no point to life. I mean, is up to each's interpretation,, but that's what I saw there... and Indeed I felt it for him, he knew his actions weren't exactly "moral", but his goal was to archieve peace, that which was just a dream before the apocalypse, he saw the chance and took it... and failed... SO yeah... tought shit... :(
legendario13 Yes the master's intentions where to remove the emotion of man so that we would never strive for more that would end in violence but like you said "the ends justify the means" and I love Fallout's ability to add philosophical values in such a game.
Hamich Samich Totally, gotta love the ability it has to really make you feel the characters and the messages. If only more people would play videogames they would know that conciousless greed is taking us to our doom :T The unity didn't sound so bad...
Did you expect as answer a ''yes''? Everyone felt sorry for him since his intentions were good. He wanted to let humanity continue in the form of super mutants and create a perfect society without differences.
Best antagonist in all of gaming. It felt so good playing the game and learning snippets about the guy, reading his backstory (which was extraordinarily well written) and then finally descending into his lair and approaching him through the flesh covered hallway, reading the creepy messages at the bottom of the screen and ultimately looking him in the eyes and talking to him. I've beaten the game twice as of now and I am still fascinated by him and his faction. Just wow
I know this is super sad in context but I find it really funny that you can basically tell this guy "your plans are stupid and you are a dumbo" and he actually agrees and proceeds to end his own life.
Well Reimu, the Master (Richard Grey) is a living total monstrosity so he really has no reason to live anyway. He's an abomination. His plans gave him a sort of faith to follow.
I mean you literally have the proof that his plans wouldn't work. Fun fact, if you didn't have the holotape and read through it, just convincing with words wouldn't work...
Man, imagine suffer that kind of fate, being an amalgamation of different people and computers, and put everything you have left in a plan to try to do the best you think you can do to save the world. Only for a guy to appear and show you that you are basically evil and you hurt people for nothing at all. I mean, the Master is a fucking monster, but I feel bad for the guy... What a game
I love that everything she says is so cheery and makes you happy, even as a mutant amalgam. Also, having 3 additional personalities PROBABLY is what killed Richard. And his outlook on life. Seriously, he’s got The Calculator put to shame because of just how much worse the damage to his mind was. Stuck with 2 opposite views bickering all day and a robotic intelligence second-guessing every possible humane decision you make will eventually turn you a bit psychotic, and then that Vault 0 controller had everyone separated and all humans with generally similar goals, yet they still somehow went crazy and destroyed the Midwest.
Well then, so please *give me the example about those "worst kind of villains" who think they are the "heroes of their own twisted story"* to me yet... Can you name such examples alright?
The Master still had the option to breed prime normals like cattle in more or less humane ways as he seemed fit for a semi-steady supply of new intelligent super mutants. That, as well as the option to research means to modify the FEV to fix this issue. I guess he just gets a sort of depressive shock and throws it all away immediately in a burst of emotion. It's a very humanizing moment for the master, but I still sort of wish his vision didn't come to such an abrupt end
The problem was the Master wanted to replace all humans with Super Mutants in order to end all conflict and if he couldn't do that then there will an eternal conflict between the Mutants and the humans. It was also the fact that the Vault Dweller preyed on the Master's moment of doubt.
This is one of the best conversations I've ever seen in a story. After all the things this asshole has done I can't help but feel sad by his moment of realization. And the final line is masterly delivered, making it one of the scariest lines I've ever heard.
Great voice, epic design, a sympathetic plan which is only really 'wrong' because it won't work... I have no idea how future Fallout villains could be so one-dimensional in comparison when they had such an excellent template to work off of here.
Ahh shit, I misread one of the lines and ended up having to take care this fucker and like 50 mutants the old fashioned way with hot balls of plasma. Wish I'd done it the smart way, playing Rambo gets tedious.
So then, does *that moment the Master's (aka Richard Grey) kills himself* was actually an "act of redemption" just like a certain Ghost of Sparta did in the end of "God of War III" game alright, Nate?
Not only are Fallout 1 and 2 yin and yang on main ideaology, their main baddies are completely yin and yang too. Master, several humans infused with a computer making a monster, wants to make everyone evolve so they can live better, and those who don't want to, simply won't reproduce. He commits suicide when his plan was in vain and apologises for what he has done. President Richardson wants all non-pure humans to die, even those who resemble identical to a normal human but something they could never control being born with, their genes, are altered so that their idea of humanity emerges from underground. When told his plan has flaws, he gets more aggressive until calls for guards to attack you and cannot be reasoned with. He must be killed and shows no remorse. A blob computer was more human than president of united states. Plus both Master and President's first names are Richard.
I tried to get the speech method in my playthrough but my charisma was like...3? Speech was high but maybe the charisma prevented me from convincing this guy :( Thank you for uploading this, saved me a ton of work :D My curiosity has now been satisfied.
@@rangergxi The fuck? They aren't chances, there are only a couple that put up a chance based, if any, but most speech/chr checks are just invisible if you don't have the charisma or speech
For some reason the way he says madness always stuck with me. Slowed slightly with just the right inflection. It's like he's questioning his own words.
The thing that always fascinates me with the Fallout franchise is the writing, its both unique and engaging, and it gives you poignant moments like this which make you not only feel for the character, but also make you feel about yourself as a person.
Even if everyone was exactly the same, some people will always find reasons to hate and fight each other and I recall an old episode of fairly odd parents where this happens.
As someone that played all but Brotherhood of Steel, 76, and only a small bit of Fallout Tactics, the Master was the most effective villain. His reaction to being shown the proof in the folly of his plans and his utter despair managed to make me feel bad for the guy that I pretty much shed a tear once he realizes the truth.
His voice is so badass. Nothing in the other games can capture the sinisterness off this scene... "The unity will bring about the master race...MASTER! MASTER!"
If you read the Master log about who he once was and what the FEV did to him it makes this even more sad and terrifying that his evolution from Grey to the Master was out of his control. He lost his friends and life to a purpose that his mind could not have conceived of grappling with before his mutation. He lost his humanity and hope when emerged from the vat.
Frank Horrigan was not really that deep, at least compared to the Master. I felt that Fallout 2 was inferior to Fallout 1 in the story and characters writing, but still a fantastic game !
I remember when I played this with my cousin when I was 6 years old. I love the characters and the designs of each an every one of them, no matter what they looked like it was a sense of wonder. Then at the end this horror show bastard showed up an I pissed myself in fear...
Master: „You will never stop my plans“ Player: „Yeah but uh… yeah they don’t work“ Master: „what“ Player: „yeah look it uhm… it doesn’t work“ Master: „…fuck“ And the world was saved
Despite committing terrible crimes, he is open to dialogue, showing that although his intentions are for the greater good, you can make him see that he is terribly wrong.
" I don't think I can continue. Continue? To have done the things I have done in the name of progress and healing it was madness. I can see that now madness Madness? There is no hope leave now while you still have hope Hope." Best line ever in my opinion I liked how in this game you can avoid violence and end things peacefully with the master (either way he dies because he kills himself ) but what I liked about this part is he takes his defeat knowing that his plan was flawed and that his life's work is a failure as for this he kills himself That's my thoughts anyways
3:03 I know 300 came out a full decade after Fallout, but I can't help but feel like it sounds like that "Madness?" was clipped from the "This is Sparta!" scene.
*-gets criticized once*
*-fucking dies*
He realized he basically destroyed several vaults for nothing. He now has an army of Mutants out there and it’s all got not. Plus he’s connected to a computer and is probably able to make computations much faster than we can.
@@Dorkeydaze isn’t the human brain much faster then a computer?
@@lightyagami5857 in real life not for everything, in fallout no.
@@lightyagami5857 Yours certainly isn't.
@@Dorkeydazethe goodside, is that now we have grandma lily.
Vault Dweller DESTROYS Master with FACTs and LOGIC
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Checkmate lincolnites reference here boys.
i've never laughed this hard in my life
Virgin Edward "Caesar" Sallow: Noo you must agreed to my shitty ideology or I'll hanged you on the cross!
Chad Richard "Master" Grey: You right, my mutant forces are unable to reproduce thus make them unable to replace humanity therefore I must stopped this madness.
Loooool
That moment when you realize the guy who voiced the Master is the same guy who voiced Winnie the pooh
+Stuart Reef He did?!
thenecromorpher Thats right he did
TheLoneCourier
Super weird that I just learned about this now... (or yesterday, I guess, when I stumbled over your comment)
thenecromorpher lol
Chara haha
That last line is heartbreaking.
Yeah, the way the female voice says hope is truly heartbreaking.
Crow the mad I was more thinking about how he realizes it was madness. The tone and word choice really made me pity him
Line. Heartbreaking.
no it really isnt. i hate that guy so much.
"Hope..."
That bit where all the voices say "be" always gets me. Like every single one of them is just completely devastated by the realization you've just dropped on them.
i dont think that all of thise voices are seperate minds but the representation of Master's personality: female's voice is a humanity and feelings, robotic voice is logic and decision and crazy voice is anger and violence and all of them saying imo means that Master got broken to his teeth with the info he learnd
@Lautaro Lencina Interesting. Thanks for the comment.
@Lautaro Lencina actually he grey who explored the mariposa base with harold. harold got knocked out and eventually turned into a setiet tree in the capital wastelands while grey got knoced into a fev vat. he absorbed rats and other vermin when figuring out his new form and its hinted he absorbed some wanderers who were too curious for their own good. then he bonded with the vaults overseer chair which is probably where the robot voice comes from. but it does seem like they now reflect parts of his mind with the female cropping up when talking of join and protect while the male crops up during die and normals. finally his main voice is his original self and the robot is the logical part.
@@q_taipan You...ever read the backstory of the Master? Why he's so...melty and gross and everywhere? He used FEV to "absorb" all of his failed experiments into himself, and there's no longer one single mind in there. He *canonically* has dozens-if not hundreds-of individual personalities.
@@DaZebraffe And every single one is devastated by this information.
I actually quite respect this master guy. Once it was proven that his life-long ideal was flawed, he admitted his shortcoming and accepted his defeat. That's something many fictional villains and even people in real life find difficult to do.
As much as I have to applaud the delivery and overall execution of the 'Master' Richard Grey, it's completely preposterous that the genius 'scientist and philosopher' couldn't have forseen such a principle concept like sterility in his master race. Despite his unhinged character, he is ultimately willing to listen to reason, which makes this gaping plot hole all the more mind-boggling.
His infatuation with super mutants, moreover, is largely unjustified. The master race is profoundly stupid, given only one intelligent super mutant exists: the Lieutenant, or how the rest of the grunts amusingly prefer, simply 'Lou'. The Master clearly stated that he wished for a race of simpletons incapable of having differences to coexist peacefully, but this overall plan is morally dubious. What's the point of the mutants after the apocalypse is over? The Master wants the apocalypse to remain as it is forever, otherwise the mutants and his plan become worthless.
Only an extremely rigorous argument can justify genocide of human 'normals' so that a race of content simpletons can live peacefully within a hostile, horrifying wasteland; what we recieve instead is a passionate yet arrogant rant from the Master disaster.
Furthermore, this whole plan is terribly dissonant with the themes and general atmosphere of the game. The conclusion of apparent human weakness is surface-level. The majority of 'normals' are rather neutral or, if 'evil', principally misguided. Though the Khans, the Gizmos, the mercs and criminals of the wasteland undoubtedly possess malicious intent, the moral 'good' demonstrated by the Brotherhood, the Followers, Killian, and many, many upholders of justice eradicates a sensible connection to the Master's point. The player character is so powerful they can literally shape the future of the entire world (as we know it) by their actions alone. Normals obviously aren't tearing themselves apart with differences-they're rebuilding civilization, and they're rebuilding themselves.
Is the atomic bomb destined to repeat? Well, if people so unbelievably gifted and virtuous like the canon Fallout P.C. exist, perhaps not. The future, though hazardous and fraught with peril, still holds much opportunity for the development of humanity.
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Bah, what a digression. Anyhow, Master and original FO had a lot of wasted potential, and they probably would have captured it had they addressed my aforementioned points.
@@ladyhm.6748 I honestly agree. I always figured that he realistically should’ve known more about his own virus
@@ladyhm.6748 well, anyone makes mistakes.
Remember how those astronauts died because someone confused feet with meters?
@@danutmh I haven't heard of this incident. If it's true, then it's caused by a typo, whereas the Master had years upon years of deliberate planning and complex philosophizing. I find it unbelievable that a state of delusion would sustain such a character for so long.
@@ladyhm.6748 it was a mars space orbiter actually :), my mistake.
still ,millions of dollars were lost because a small mistake
The "It can't be. Be. Be. Be." Is a deceptively powerful line. I think it's meant to represent that every 'part' of the master has reached acceptance. Every facet of his personality realizes the horror of what he's done.
This is so well done. Looking at this now makes me realize how this is one of those rare magic video game moments. This is honestly the best example of how to do an interactive story that there is. To get The Master to kill himself you don't just charm him with a high enough speech skill with obvious "speech options" highlighted for your dumb ass, you have to have the seemingly insignificant holodisk on your possession, and then you have to had actually read the thing because the game even tries to trick you into backing out as the Master believes it to be lies.
Anyone who had just been casually clicking through the dialogue and not reading the optional stuff would have been completely stumped by this. it's designed to test your convictions and prove that you, no not your character, YOU actually know that the mutants are sterile and that his plan won't work.
That is just brilliant! I feel like I genuinely beat The Master not with my plasma rifle but with determination and reason. And that is the best fucking compliment I can give this game. It is the only game I have ever played where I beat a boss with my own judgement.
:)
Yep and it's not even this one thing is like that either, the whole game is. You have to talk to people to find out the locations of certain places and items and their wasn't even stuff like a quest log you just had to remember what tasks people asked of you and whatnot.
+Kolbe Howard Well,I kinda agree with you but you are yet wrong in 1 term.There are multiple instances in Fallout:NV in which you had 2 choices.Pass the speech with skill or by choosing right dialogues(reading them ofc).And when you speak to Ulysses there are 2 speech checks which give different effects.
+Kolbe Howard Ok so you convince the Master to do a 180 in an instant of conversation. That's a convincing story for you? I mean, I guess
+Google User Even then, you have to get a certain autopsy report from the Brotherhood of Steel and spend tons of points into speech skill in order to convince the Master that his plan is doomed to fail.
So its not like its just a 180 in an instance of conversation
The Master's angry voice is just epic!
"MASTER!"
"THE GHOULS?! - Please... - NORMALS?!"
+Jan Štembera It sounds like the Joker.
Doctor Bane When I think about it... Yeah, kinda. :D
Jan Štembera Indeed.
"THE GHOULS?! Please. NORMIES?! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY UNITY. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
The standard voice of the Master is provided by Jim Cummings, famous vocal impressionist.
A settlement needs your help. Settlement. Help!
LOL
Please no Fallout 4 bullshit here.
4.2/10 Not enough adhesive
don't like FO4?
no.
Probably the best Fallout villain ever in the Fallout series, was perfect.
Yeah
This dialogue was deeper than all of the Fallout 4 dialogues combined
His idea of unity isn'bad. And even so I dislike them the Mutants really are best suited for the wasteland. He is one of the best villains in the world.
Not really the best suited-now if his plan was to turn everyone into Cazadores, that might have been a plan.
Agreed
Sjord Booman idk what your talking about fo4 was very insightful, in the words of Preston, “Another settlement needs your help”
The master, experiencing one of the most human emotions of all:
Clarity
And all he thought about was the future of the race...
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02:44 This is was the Master's last words, deeply in-thought about *what was the future of his race* yet...😢
Being smart doesn't matter if your insane. -Arcade in F:NV about Ceasar.
"Being smart doesn't matter. *You're* going to look stupid if *your* grammar is terrible." -Me about your comment
Glebinator bruh moment
@@doctoroctopus2620 Did he just edit his comment? XD
@@Rubyofthedead "Fuck you grammar police" -me
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I met Jim Cummings at a Con some years back and when asked about this role, he had zero recollection about it. He mentioned how in video games, you're pretty much in a booth by yourself and reading through lines with no idea who the character is.
The fact that he had no idea who The Master was still and gave such a powerful performance is mind blowing
Especially since due to the nature of the Master having multiple voices, he likely had to do small chunks of dialogue at a time for the sound editors to put together later along with Kath Soucie’s voice, but it comes together almost seamlessly (though there are a few awkward pauses in some of his dialogue, which might be a result of it being planned to be edited later, but they didn’t edit those particular lines. At least, that’s my speculation).
I'm impressed. He did a great job.
Jim Cummings has done so many voices, it’s no wonder he doesn’t remember
I've heard from people like Elias Toufexis that he has a really good idea of who Adam Jensen is, so I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that it was a video game.
Id definitely say he was given a rough idea of the character its just he has done so much in his career no way he could pin point each memory and be like oh yeah I remember that one exactly to the tee.
It's a shame so many games lack this sort of voice acting. So much emotion, without any possibility of facial recognition
Not to mention the writing. The character is just interesting, and its rarely seen from the main villain in video games imho
Take off your disgusting nostalgia tinted glasses boomer. Plenty of story based games have amazing voice acting.
look at the dialogue... fantastic
I always thought that the master was the scariest character in all of gaming due to his scary appearance and personality; i even think those extra voices in the dialogue make him terrifying; i think that they did a really good job in perfecting the most threatening and scary villain in all of gaming.
+mymoonproductions
except that female voice, that one was kind of cute.
@@peppermillers8361 What I really dislike in modern games they give you the deep female voice as a computer, it's not really much cool than the cute voice speaking to you. It makes me think that those type of high pitch voices are always responsive and able to do so.
@@WindiChilliwack I don't mind it but I get what you mean. Can you give an example? I was thinking maybe like SHODAN, but I feel like her voice isn't that deep to begin with.
@@peppermillers8361 IF you play Starcraft 1, did you remember original Adjudant's voice? It seems more life-like and ready, like the human race tried to create an AI that sounded more living like than just a robot, while in Starcraft 2 and similar games with the deep female voice, it's just the basic assisting robot. You gotta get a voice that seems more responsive and ready like, it's more prepared. just like the male AI voice in Doom Eternal.
@@peppermillers8361Agreed, the way she says hope is quite depressing too and tragic.
Master is an excellent villain on account of how human he is underneath the disgusting mutations. A misguided genius that, when presented with the fatal flaw in his final solution, admits defeat. Simply gives up. He is not trying to fight against his doom. He is incredibly smart and knows that there is no course of action to save the mutants. He just asks you to leave so that he can grieve the loss of an entire race that he was supposed to be responsible for. In his final monologue, you can hear the immense devastation in his tone as he recognizes the inevitable. Whew, it's intense! Fallout, its world, and its characters are so incredibly well developed.
Well at least cheaters by a certain studio that work on Fallout yes
Not just the super mutants. Remember he believed that the mutants were the only hope for intelligent life to survive in the nuclear wasteland. It’s why he pushed so hard to turn humans.
And he just learned that the race he thought was the last chance humanity had will last only one generation. The future he slaughtered many in the name of would be doomed to a faster end than the one he is trying to prevent.
When he tells you to “leave while you still have hope,” it’s because he believes humanity is truly doomed.
That last hope line always gets to me.
all mate....
todos 😥👍
Bethesda take notes please.
Bethesda.... Taking.... Notes.... These things are one of those things that will never happen in this universe.
Bethesda? Listening? Good joke.
I'm from the future, two words for you: BATTLE ROYALE.
I also came from the future just to tell you that Bethesda does NEVER take notes
Linux fam you know
He really is a great villain, he's so logical and has utter conviction in his actions, unlike a certain other robotic presidential end boss! A sympathetic villain is always so much more effective than a cartoonish evil one.
+I. Thorberg Good villains don't necessarily need to be relatable. Sauron is one of the great villains of fiction, but he is in no way relatable.
+TheUndyingCrystal Tolkien himself didn't consider Sauron pure evil though, as he didn't believe in existence of pure evil. He merely called Sauron someone who had become so close to pure evil as it was possible.
Th. Noatak IIRC, he considered Sauron worse than Melkor (I think it is even flat out said in Silmarillion that Sauron was remarkable in having beaten his master in evil). So I guess no, he didn't consider even Melkor one. Even Satan fell, there was time when he wasn't evil.
+oliver hayward think this way - who's said he is a villian?
+PSXnigma Thats.... a very fair point actually. It shows how well written he is as a character.
The Master: Hmm let us see how fallout 4 dialogue looks like.
(A minute later) 2:17
lmao
Burger It's so bad he denies to think it's real.
Chittapol Pradit exactly
Well, Fallout 4 wasn't good, but I think that New Vegas was. In my opinion, it's the most similar to the old Fallouts
Also, I know you will hate me for this, but FNV is IMO even better than the older Fallouts. While it has their freedom and equally good dialogues and plot, the combat is interesting. I liked the. original Fallouts, but in F2 I hated combat and eventually stopped playing in the middle of the game because of it. And it's not about it being turn-based (I love XCOMs).
0:41 The Master brings out his inner Metallica
That's all I could think about
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The writing of this dialogue is nothing but pure genius. They managed to make you feel sad and empathetic for someone absolutely repulsive looking and that was supposed to be the big evil guy. The last line is truly heartbreaking when you know the background of the Master.
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estoy de acuerdo
I mean.... agreed 😥👍
This is actually the saddest ending because the master wasn't bad he was just misguided. If you think about it he actually wanted to save the future by creating a race of super mutants well equipped to trek the barren wastelands of fallout but when he finds out his mutants are sterile he realizes that he failed to make a better future but instead created a race that will die out in the next generation end that last line "leave now while you still have hope" actually gave me a genuine feeling of sadness.
the enclave also tried that though and look at them,he was a fool for thinking he could have control and dictate to people
The RisenPride The Master never stated that he wanted to control people. He only wanted to force them to be mutants to survive better. He even stated that he would let people live but only under unity protection so that mutants would be the sole race (thinking mutants are better equipped for the wasteland). Difference is that the Master thinks he is a messiah (which he would be if the FEV virus didn't make people sterile). The Enclave just wants to take over the world. Big difference.
Rhsims And the NCR try to revive the old ways from the pre-war, which we know what started this mess in the first place.
Man I hate the NCR, at least the enclave is straightforward about their intentions, hell even the legion is, the ncr puts on a friendly facade even tho these 3 factions have pretty much the same goal.
FIlho Da Puta They all try to rebuilt an old civilization, but all of them would fail because it didn't work before, what chance do they have to try to get it working again.
This is why I preferred the Mr House ending and The Courier taking over New Vegas ending.
There's no "quick fix" to the human condition. This is what the Master (like many others) could not accept about life.
Your comment reminds me quote of my favorite writer Bukowski: "Genius might be the ability to say a profound thing in a simple way
What I love the most is that each of his voices is meant for different moments and emotions, and are the different people merged in him, but when you show the proof, his next sentece ends with a "be" that is repeated by every voice. They were all simuntaneously shocked and broken and it's the first time you see them all sharing a though like this.
the master wasn't nesscarily a bad guy he originally had good goals but as the old saying goes the path to hell is paved with good intintions.
+kyle hicks Theres absolute nothing "wrong" about the masters goals.
Its the freaking wasteland and everyone is going to die anyway.
Being a super mutant is for sure better, and nobody needs reproduction if you can simply "clone" , easy solution.
And ofcourse, nobody has to stop changing the FEV virus. Whos to say there wont be one that still allows reproduction in the future, just keep a bunch of humans around just in case.
Totally viable way , theres no "evil" in it.
+ThisNameIsBanned yeah but what the master failed to see was the lack of unity in his very own creations
play new vegas, watch the interactions between nightkin and the muties
you are nazi, fuck you
Yeah
That's what makes an effective villain, imo. Rather than just being "evil" or a "bad guy", they are usually just the one being with opposing goals to the protagonist.
Man Jim Cummings voice...seriously so good to hear
+Bren Tenkage And also Kath Soucie doing the female voice for some lines.
God i love the way he(she?) Says "all my work" so much emotion
Don't worry Master, mutants CAN multiply. Thanks to Bethestards mutants are now fuckin' everywhere.
Bethestards?
+Hollis-Tec Bethesda + Bastards = Bethestards
+Jack Rack finally someone who knows the lore!
+Jack Rack that's right but fallout 3 destroys several things from the lore of the previous fallout games.
+Nicolas Duque (MrDuque) Like? Name an example...?
"Leave now, while you still have 'hope'......" Its this line that really gets me, because a big theme, if not THE theme of the original Fallout game was hope. Hope to save your people, other people, to do something of value in this world that's just tearing itself apart. For me, this theme comes out the strongest in New Vegas, not because of what the writers put in it, but allowed us to imagine with its Wild Card Ending. Now, Oxhorn has had a video discussing what was wrong with this ending in his opinion....but I strongly disagree with the implications he though happened. Too much of this ending is summing up the immediate effects of changing the power in the Mojave, and the chaos that comes with trying to establish it. However; the game was limited in what could be done because of its short development time, and because any effects you wanted to have had to be directly written in. So, if say, you had a good karmaed character that just didn't see any of the other major powers as right, and wanted to form a new government with the power of a Securitron Army, the option wasn't really there, and ultimately came down to what the player could imagine.
In any other franchise (or even modern Fallout) the master probably would have said simply "Get out while you still can!"
But no. The master's last line tells him to leave while he still has ... Hope.
He's not just referring to getting out of the bomb radius.
He's talking about the world.
The *hope* that maybe, just maybe, the wprld can be rebuilt and LEARN from the past mistakes, including the Master's own attempt to rebuidl the world .... How heartbreaking. but also, wonderfully optimistic.
No wonder the Vault Dweller founded Arroyo. And it's amazing how successful it becomes.
"There is no hope. Leave now. Leave while you still have...hope...."
Honestly heartbreaking. As messed up as it was, The Master really believed he was saving life on Earth. And then prove it was pointless.
"...hope..."😥
Richard Grey and Harold were one of the most interesting characters in the Fallout franchise, one wanted to make a equal army of mutants, other some how started the beauty of nature life again which is quite interesting. Got to admit that the Master was a alright mutant, so the Vault Dweller had to set him straight.
Fallout 1 was probably one of my favorite past games with a great storyline, loved it.
@@Godzilla691138MW3 agreed. I played new vegas first and came out to love the first one. All the timed limit quest was unforgivable yet a fun experience.
1:08 Of course, PC's are best equipped to deal with the world today. Who else? The playstations? Please.
Xbox? They brought DRM to us all. This will be the age of the PC. PC!
Best comment ever hahahaha
best statement ever made
PC=mutants further more, KILL THE MUTIANTS! but in all serousness, it was the consoles of old that gave rise too the PC gaming, and PC gaming is... a bit... How do I put it. crybaby like? I mean sure graphics and mods are awesome, but when it goes to to console gaming, the PC elitists almost CRY about it. Console gaming is a lot simpler and has it's advantages and disadvantages.
haha genius
Brilliant!
Good dialogue like this is like music, I could listen to it all day long
Him: Master! Master!
Me: MASTER OF PUPPETS IM PULLING YOUR STRINGGS
OH YEAH
Immediately what I thought when I first heard that line.
The only character in the entire series with dialogue as good as the Master's(or anyone else in the original fallout games(1&2))is Ulysses from Fallout: New Vegas.
malomalovids I can't stand listening to Ulysses
Oh there's plenty of other great dialogues, especially in NV. "Drug talk" with Myron, negotiating with either Lanius or General Oliver, Chief Hanlon, Caesar, Joshua Graham...
+Lazar Šutilović dirty chetnik
+malomalovids I'd give credit to Father Elijah from Dead Money, too
True, maybe.
"Your ego demands you tell me. All villains have this strange urge to explain everything."
And people say that New Vegas had silly dialogue.
just finished fallout 1, holy fuck I had this conversation and I felt like my own judgement and attention to the holodisks paid off. Way better than having stuff highlighted or having [Speech] next to something.
The classics worldbuilding and soundtracks are very much missed in 3,nv,4 as well 😞
@@ElizaWebbg new vegas has objectively the best worldbuilding in any fallout games
Master! MASTER!!!
MAAASTEERR!!
GAME OVER
Continue EXIT
Snake? SNAKE? SNAKKKKEEEEEE!
Where's the dreams that I've been after?
MASTER OF PUPPETS
Laughter! Laughter!
A mutated Winnie the Pooh commits suicide after losing a eugenics debate.
Am I the only one that felt really sorry for him?
No I did‚ I mean his intentions were somewhat good.
Hamich Samich I thought the lesson it tried to taugth was that "the end justify the means" is a flawed perception.
Taking the mutants as a clever analogy. Our violent, opressive, or immoral actions, if well-intentioned, take away the human part of us, our feelings, and empathy for others, the collective spirit that makes us the "humanity".
And thus, as numb, sterile beings, is not worth to survive anymore, there's no point to life.
I mean, is up to each's interpretation,, but that's what I saw there... and Indeed I felt it for him, he knew his actions weren't exactly "moral", but his goal was to archieve peace, that which was just a dream before the apocalypse, he saw the chance and took it... and failed...
SO yeah... tought shit... :(
legendario13 Yes the master's intentions where to remove the emotion of man so that we would never strive for more that would end in violence but like you said "the ends justify the means" and I love Fallout's ability to add philosophical values in such a game.
Hamich Samich Totally, gotta love the ability it has to really make you feel the characters and the messages. If only more people would play videogames they would know that conciousless greed is taking us to our doom :T
The unity didn't sound so bad...
Did you expect as answer a ''yes''?
Everyone felt sorry for him since his intentions were good.
He wanted to let humanity continue in the form of super mutants and create a perfect society without differences.
When that angry voice said "Madness?" that really hit me hard....
Best antagonist in all of gaming. It felt so good playing the game and learning snippets about the guy, reading his backstory (which was extraordinarily well written) and then finally descending into his lair and approaching him through the flesh covered hallway, reading the creepy messages at the bottom of the screen and ultimately looking him in the eyes and talking to him. I've beaten the game twice as of now and I am still fascinated by him and his faction. Just wow
I know this is super sad in context but I find it really funny that you can basically tell this guy "your plans are stupid and you are a dumbo" and he actually agrees and proceeds to end his own life.
Well Reimu, the Master (Richard Grey) is a living total monstrosity so he really has no reason to live anyway. He's an abomination. His plans gave him a sort of faith to follow.
I mean you literally have the proof that his plans wouldn't work. Fun fact, if you didn't have the holotape and read through it, just convincing with words wouldn't work...
LMAO
Man, imagine suffer that kind of fate, being an amalgamation of different people and computers, and put everything you have left in a plan to try to do the best you think you can do to save the world. Only for a guy to appear and show you that you are basically evil and you hurt people for nothing at all. I mean, the Master is a fucking monster, but I feel bad for the guy... What a game
I dont know why, but I really love master's female voice =/
Yik Tuum That’s Kath Soucie.
I love that everything she says is so cheery and makes you happy, even as a mutant amalgam. Also, having 3 additional personalities PROBABLY is what killed Richard. And his outlook on life. Seriously, he’s got The Calculator put to shame because of just how much worse the damage to his mind was. Stuck with 2 opposite views bickering all day and a robotic intelligence second-guessing every possible humane decision you make will eventually turn you a bit psychotic, and then that Vault 0 controller had everyone separated and all humans with generally similar goals, yet they still somehow went crazy and destroyed the Midwest.
She also voices abother character in fallout. The undercover member of the unity church
very soothing
“Leave now, while you still have hope…”
Damn…
Back in the times when video games were made with passion and dedication, not for money just for glory.
"Leave now while you still have hope" always just makes me sad. It's peaceful, but it's so bleak and depressing
02:44 - 03:06
God damn......he really really ended up looking fucked up
Like.....jesus christ
That has to be the worst mutation i have ever seen in a fallout game
He spent several days nearly drowning in FEV, he got so fucked up that he subconsciously killed a rat with a tendril
This Cyborg Mutant made Shaun look like a Teddy Bear
Shaun would've been better received if they had kept the original Institute plot in FO4 instead of cutting it out.
The worst villains are the ones who think they are the heroes of their own story.
Well then, so please *give me the example about those "worst kind of villains" who think they are the "heroes of their own twisted story"* to me yet... Can you name such examples alright?
"So, what shall it be? Do you join the Unity or die here?"
"No dick. No balls."
* Lego Yoda Death *
Master got destroyed by facts and logic
The Master still had the option to breed prime normals like cattle in more or less humane ways as he seemed fit for a semi-steady supply of new intelligent super mutants. That, as well as the option to research means to modify the FEV to fix this issue. I guess he just gets a sort of depressive shock and throws it all away immediately in a burst of emotion. It's a very humanizing moment for the master, but I still sort of wish his vision didn't come to such an abrupt end
The problem was the Master wanted to replace all humans with Super Mutants in order to end all conflict and if he couldn't do that then there will an eternal conflict between the Mutants and the humans.
It was also the fact that the Vault Dweller preyed on the Master's moment of doubt.
@@thebandofbastards4934And the fact that the virus was man made, meaning there was only so much he could make before running out of supplies.
This is one of the best conversations I've ever seen in a story. After all the things this asshole has done I can't help but feel sad by his moment of realization. And the final line is masterly delivered, making it one of the scariest lines I've ever heard.
A game where you make the final boss kill himself with the power of speechcraft, damn.
Great voice, epic design, a sympathetic plan which is only really 'wrong' because it won't work... I have no idea how future Fallout villains could be so one-dimensional in comparison when they had such an excellent template to work off of here.
*I AM THE ENCLAVE*
Jim Cummings is my god and master now.
***** Hahahahaha, take all my caps, just take them you genius! XD
You cannot compare 1 and 76, they're so fundamentally different its saddening
Ahh shit, I misread one of the lines and ended up having to take care this fucker and like 50 mutants the old fashioned way with hot balls of plasma. Wish I'd done it the smart way, playing Rambo gets tedious.
I wonder how bad that room smells.
He redeemed himself in my eyes.
So then, does *that moment the Master's (aka Richard Grey) kills himself* was actually an "act of redemption" just like a certain Ghost of Sparta did in the end of "God of War III" game alright, Nate?
@@rahadianaryo5979 depends who you ask.
@@nathansteinfromarkham7109
Yeah, Nate... *It's certainly depends* on *which one who did you asked about it* right then...😟
Not only are Fallout 1 and 2 yin and yang on main ideaology, their main baddies are completely yin and yang too.
Master, several humans infused with a computer making a monster, wants to make everyone evolve so they can live better, and those who don't want to, simply won't reproduce. He commits suicide when his plan was in vain and apologises for what he has done.
President Richardson wants all non-pure humans to die, even those who resemble identical to a normal human but something they could never control being born with, their genes, are altered so that their idea of humanity emerges from underground. When told his plan has flaws, he gets more aggressive until calls for guards to attack you and cannot be reasoned with. He must be killed and shows no remorse.
A blob computer was more human than president of united states.
Plus both Master and President's first names are Richard.
I genuinely think the original game is the best Fallout game ever made!!
same dude the pre rendered graphics, the music, story is so good
I like how the master had this entire plan, then then the vault dweller goes in there like “No balls”
Alternative video title: Human DESTROYS goo-Hitler with FACTS and LOGIC!!!
"I can see that now"
Hello sir if you take a look at this piece of paper it indeed says you get no bitches. *Vine boom*
I tried to get the speech method in my playthrough but my charisma was like...3? Speech was high but maybe the charisma prevented me from convincing this guy :(
Thank you for uploading this, saved me a ton of work :D My curiosity has now been satisfied.
you needed high intelligence
You need proof from the scribes at the Brotherhood or from Mariapusa. Speech checks are a % chance in this game so even high speech can fail.
@@rangergxi The fuck? They aren't chances, there are only a couple that put up a chance based, if any, but most speech/chr checks are just invisible if you don't have the charisma or speech
For some reason the way he says madness always stuck with me.
Slowed slightly with just the right inflection. It's like he's questioning his own words.
The thing that always fascinates me with the Fallout franchise is the writing, its both unique and engaging, and it gives you poignant moments like this which make you not only feel for the character, but also make you feel about yourself as a person.
Master should be revived again for next fallout. He was awesome
That line, "as long as there are differences we will tear each other apart, that's why we need one race, one goal", i'm not really sure about that one
Even if everyone was exactly the same, some people will always find reasons to hate and fight each other and I recall an old episode of fairly odd parents where this happens.
He was wrong, because New Vegas shows that the Mutants turned on each other.
Sounds like a mustached German guy.
Good thing he did not live long enough to realize super mutant did not age. Or maybe it just wasn’t a concept during the development of the game.
Even if they did not age they would have still died off due to chance.
Super mutants are capable to live until around 300 years
this is basically spamton g spamton but less insane
i actually kinda feel bad for the master. he was so sad and depressed when he realized he failed.
As someone that played all but Brotherhood of Steel, 76, and only a small bit of Fallout Tactics, the Master was the most effective villain. His reaction to being shown the proof in the folly of his plans and his utter despair managed to make me feel bad for the guy that I pretty much shed a tear once he realizes the truth.
His voice is so badass. Nothing in the other games can capture the sinisterness off this scene... "The unity will bring about the master race...MASTER! MASTER!"
"the real treasure was the friend you made along the way"
Me: 2:28
Keep in mind, he is voiced by the Cat from CatDog. You're convincing Cat from CatDog to kill himself lmao
Man, fallout games used to be intense as hell
If you read the Master log about who he once was and what the FEV did to him it makes this even more sad and terrifying that his evolution from Grey to the Master was out of his control. He lost his friends and life to a purpose that his mind could not have conceived of grappling with before his mutation. He lost his humanity and hope when emerged from the vat.
The Master and Frank Horrigan will be my favorite bosses ever. We don't usually see this character development today.
Frank Horrigan was not really that deep, at least compared to the Master. I felt that Fallout 2 was inferior to Fallout 1 in the story and characters writing, but still a fantastic game !
@@DerelictEarth Indeed so...
I remember when I played this with my cousin when I was 6 years old. I love the characters and the designs of each an every one of them, no matter what they looked like it was a sense of wonder. Then at the end this horror show bastard showed up an I pissed myself in fear...
Master: „You will never stop my plans“
Player: „Yeah but uh… yeah they don’t work“
Master: „what“
Player: „yeah look it uhm… it doesn’t work“
Master: „…fuck“
And the world was saved
I think I just fell in love with that female voice
TEAR OURSELVES APART!
Despite committing terrible crimes, he is open to dialogue, showing that although his intentions are for the greater good, you can make him see that he is terribly wrong.
In the end when his work is proven to fail a flicker of what is remaining of his humanity is shown in his death.
One flesh, one bone,
One true religion.
One voice, one hope,
One real decision.
Wowowowo, gimme one vision, yeah!
16MB RAM :)
Thats POWER
Major props to Jim Cummings on his voice work here.
...and *Katherine Soucie on her voice work for the Master's female voice* right then...👍😉
His shift from confidence to utter defeat is extremely well done.
Epic moment in human collective mind history.
" I don't think I can continue. Continue? To have done the things I have done in the name of progress and healing it was madness. I can see that now madness Madness? There is no hope leave now while you still have hope Hope."
Best line ever in my opinion I liked how in this game you can avoid violence and end things peacefully with the master (either way he dies because he kills himself ) but what I liked about this part is he takes his defeat knowing that his plan was flawed and that his life's work is a failure as for this he kills himself
That's my thoughts anyways
3:03
I know 300 came out a full decade after Fallout, but I can't help but feel like it sounds like that "Madness?" was clipped from the "This is Sparta!" scene.