The Fallout Show After The Hype
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Fallout of The Fallout Show
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Also this is my opinion and I feel like this video will get lots of Dislikes...
Sue me(don't actually)
Chapters,
0:00 - Intro
4:05 - The Visuals
7:03 - The Main Quest
12:58 - The New Vegas Problem
15:56 - My Nitpicks
17:51 - What Bethesda Gets Wrong
18:27 - Final Thoughts - บันเทิง
Bad show, when I played it on Amazon it autosaved and crashed
Bro, yours auto saved? Mine blue screened and corrupted all my saves.
Mine was f3 and nv era so I forgot to save, died and had to replay the last 2 hours to get back to where I was.
I went afk then a super mutant killed me lost all my progress
My game exploded
You can play it past the title screen? Mine just crashes the moment I start a new game!
Can't wait for Norm to become the new overseer and then say to Lucy when she finally returns... "Im sorry.. you're a hero... and you have to leave".
Hahaaaa, made my day! 😀
He's actually bound to follow the path of the Fallout 1 protagonist. Someone needs to get a Water Chip.
@@unnamedshadow1866 ong
@@unnamedshadow1866 foreshadowing?????
Good prediction!
I think the twist of season 2 will be around which nv ending is cannon, the whole season will imply that Mr house is the cannon ending up until the last episode where the main characters enter the lucky 38 and they discover, oh fuck it’s yes man.
I dunno. Consider how fucked the strip is, I get the vibe we won't even see much of it. We'll go there for an episode or two, discover that Vault Tech lady is actually a robot or something and that she's responsible for what happened in the strip and will do it again in the Boneyard if Lucy doesn't stop her. Then we'll get a plot with the BOS stealing the cloud from the Sierra Madre to use on the minute men or something, and we'll spend the rest of the season in the east cost for some reason. I just have such little faith that they'll do anything beyond basic fan service with their time in NV.
right, i think they did a good job on the props, they forgot they were making a game on the west coast and threw the bos again for some dumb reason, only infantilizing the wasteland and the ncr, and making it like i t was in fallout 1 which makes no sense to me
Definitely Yes man ending based on how destroyed NV is
@@dcluvspie5777 Hardly definitely as show already destroyed existed lore like a bulldozer going true kindergarten. Might as well be any non-Legion ending or something else.
@@ReichLife That’s a fucking exaggeration and you know it…
@0:58 "Ever since I was a dumb little 11-year-old kid booting up Fallout 4 for the first time." Oof, well I feel old as shit now. I was a dumb little 11-year-old kid when Fallout: Tactics came out.
I was 13 when fallout 1 came out... ouch
Same
I was 4 when fallout 4 came out 🗿
Adfagnsd i was 13 when i bought fallout 3 😢😅
@@Jaysin412Yeah, I was 15 ... those were the times ... :D
Norm was my favourite character hands down, next to Cooper Howard
And then there’s dogmeat
based Irish brother💪💪
Same
Norm build is legit.
I disagree strongly about your point of not canonizing an ending. If you are going to have a Fallout story set in the same region as a previously released story, it’s actively detrimental to the plot that the ending of the previous story is left ambiguous. Like you said, Fallout is post-post apocalyptic, and to develop that aspect of the franchise we need to see growth / change between stories. Imagine a Fallout 2 that left Shady Sands as a simple town instead of letting it become the NCR, just because of “respecting player choice”. Same with season 2 of this show, think about how much less interesting it would be for New Vegas to end up as another ruined town (like Shady Sands) instead of the show committing to a House or NCR ending and playing out the ramifications of that.
This isn’t me trying to fully disagree with you, I think having a majority of a Fallout main character’s story and choices left ambiguous is a good thing for the same reasons you do. I just think that the main plot of the show would be far more compelling if they choose an ending and run with it.
Something you should know, though, is that the OG Fallout 2 DID canonize an ending. They canonized specific parts of fallout 1and left others vague and were smart enough to have the story set DECADES after the first, to avoid giving too much of an idea of what happened in between the games.
But that isn't how Bethesda rolls. Even as far back as Daggerfall and Morrowind, the studio has been dead set on canonizing *EVERY* outcome from the prior game. Which, naturally leads to nonsensical storytelling in an effort to make *every* player happy. But it's a fruitless endeavour that ultimately leads to a morass of meaninglessness.
Bethesda can't just decide on an ending that make sense for the story they want to tell with their next game. They've got to create a nonsensical excuse as to why ALL the endings are somehow canon. Which robs the story of impact, because if every ending happens, then what was the point in choosing one to begin with? How on earth can they explain a character siding with two warring factions and simultaneously being for an independent new vegas? How can the player character convince several factions to fight on both sides of a war that ultimately won't matter anyway, because the outcome is irrelevant come the next release?
We're seeing the fallout (haha) of Bethesda's story writing in live action. They can't decide how Fallout New Vegas ends. So we're going to get a jumbled mess of all the endings mixed together, in a timeline far too close to when the events took place. At least, that's what's most likely to happen without intervention from the showrunner's writing team, which I suspect will be handicapped by Todd Howard, infamous lying coward.
If the show took place almost 40 years after the events of FO:NV, I could agree with you. If I had any confidence the showrunners would canonize one specific ending, I could agree with you. But this isn't Obsidian's fallout 2. This is, essentially, Bethesda (and Todd Howard's) Fallout 5. We're not going to see growth or development of even commitment to the ideas laid out in the series, we're going to get a theme park ride that spits in the face of the players who enjoyed the nuances that came with Fallout New Vegas's faction conflicts. That's why we got to see the east coast & some light remember-berries scattered throughout the show's first season. That's why we're going to see Vegas. That's why I'd be shocked and surprised if we didn't get a s3 with a story about the east coast & boston, inevitably canonizing every ending to FO:4 just for the shits and giggles, and fuck it, let's go north and see how the endings of FO3 turned out (oh hey, the enclave are still around? Guess that means the east coast BOS didn't actually fuck them all up at Mariposa.)
I COMPLETELY AGREE! I think games with multiple endings should ALWAYS have ONE canon ending confirmed after about 1 or 2 years or in the next game, so the community can theorize a while and then they get an answer, not having canon endings is a bad idea because a plot can never really evolve or build upon another story, all because of "Player choice"
At the end of the day, who cares if they make a certain ending canon or retcon certain things. It’s fictional. It doesn’t stop anyone going back to the games and enjoying them how they want.
People are so easily butthurt over the most inconsequential stuff
here's the issue: they fully intend to 'not canonize an ending' and if discussion from the creators is to be believed none of the endings from new vegas will really matter as it's "so far in the future" that "things have changed"
@@ahealthkit2745 right, but i dont understand y ur saying that fallout 2 did canonize an ending as if that wasnt already his whole point lol
They did make some odd choices, like putting all those vaults in LA. This is set after Fallout 1, after the Master ravaged many vaults to capture people for his mutant army. His base was in LA, AKA the Boneyard, well south Boneyard, the Cathedral. No chance in Hell he would have let those vaults go by untouched. Especially the ones in south LA. And Shady Sands being moved into LA....In FO1 it was way north of LA, sat in-between vault 13 and 15...they were settlers of vault 15 after the door opened. Where it was at it's safest from harm. Choices I don't quite get that contradict the games. But then, the games contradict themselves anyway so it's to be expected unfortunately.
Can you explain if the boneyard was where modern LA is or if its somewhere else cause around the santa monica pier everything is just sand and skeletons
@@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu Bone Yard is just basically all of LA. It's that way on the map. Places like Santa Monica aren't marked, but where it would be is the same dark building ruins that are on Central LA. It's too close for the Master not to have raided them, because in game his army is already out of LA.
The whole point is the master couldnt have found vault 13 without knowing its location from the vault dweller. Since 33 32 and 31 seem relatively isolated, and moldaver is *spoilers* pre war, we can assume she found some other way in
They need to redo 1+2 I swear
@@skatedsan1456i rather they don’t touch them at all
Respect on the Boy and His Dog intro lol
More people need to know about it, Without a Boy and His Dog, there is no Mad Max or Fallout
@@Comporio Absolutely one of my favorite sci fi stories, Harlan Ellison was an underrated GOAT. Also I typed this right after the intro initially, but I also feel and think generally the same as you regarding the state of Fallout lmao, so thanks for collecting all this into a coherent video
Boy and his Dog very very very very very underrated ;p
1:19 - Nate was out of the military for at least two years by that point. Emil is just an idiot, one who failed upwards.
I heard this guy says "ever since i was a little kid and booted up fallout 4", i was a bit confused but then I realised that fallout 4 is nearly a decade old
Im only like three years older than him yet I feel so old now
Fallout 4 carries the "Sin" of canonizing an ending where Dr. Li is alive, FEV wasn't released, Lyons fell out of power, and the Brotherhood won. I don't see how having a show canonizing an ending is wrong. We were not going to see New Vegas again regardless, so picking a heading and carrying on makes sense.
Perhaps but it's just as easy to say it doesn't matter because XXX event happened. Such as the bombing of Shady Sands.
Leaving Dr Li alive is DEFINITELY a sin
Heck, this show already canonizes endings for Fallout 4, because the Commonwealth Brotherhood is mentioned and the Prydwin isn’t blown up. So it’s either the brotherhood ending or a specific Minutemen ending.
@@josiadorthestrong1031 There's no way that stupid thing ever got out of Bahstan. It exists to explode like the loot pinata it is. @captironsight The problem is the brotherhood is probably the most boring thing in Fallout. Stealing a suit of power armor from someone is so much more fallout then getting it as some kind of quest reward for killing 15 synths in a 5 minute bethesda dungeon.
I don't think canonising an ending is inherently bad, if you can leave a decent amount of ambiguity to let the player imagine their choices were the ones going forward then that's great, but ultimately if you want to tell a story that follows on from the previous one you'll have to touch on some plot points that the player had some amount of choice in. New Vegas does create the issue of having 4 fairly well fleshed out endings covering how each of the major factions could alter the wasteland, so outside of a Daggerfall style Warp in the West that has time break to let all the endings somehow be canon at the same time (I love when Bethesda can get weird with their world building) they will have to pick one and run with it. The only other alternative is to destroy New Vegas so utterly that whatever the player chose doesn't matter since it's all destroyed anyway, but that goes from annoying most people by ignoring 3/4 endings, to annoying everyone, but ignoring them all.
I can't really wrap my head around Muldaver and why she led a team of raiders into Vault 33 for a farce wedding. Her depiction as a raider boss is totally incongruent with her depiction as one of the few remaining leaders of the NCR. It's like they forgot who she was supposed to be after the first episode.
The saving grace is that we're clearly not done with her character, even though she's dead in the present. We still haven't seen all of Cooper's character arc or an explanation for how Muldaver survived the war.
«like they forgot who she was supposed to be»
yeah, that't the show for you
its possible she didnt want to move a whole group of soldiers away from the main base since theres already so few of the NCR left or she did not want to risk losing anymore soldiers knowing that the vaults probably have armories.
So here's my theory after watching the show a few times. I think Muldaver was a former leader in the ncr that has been trying to unify all the different factions around LA in the wake of the shady sands explosion. Here's what I think happened.
Hank goes after his kids, he partners with a group to attack shady sands. That group takes over shady sands and the NCR has to move it's capital. This is listed as "the fall of shady sands" on the blackboard.
Eventuality the NCR retake shady sands, likely lead by Muldaver. Thinking that the next step in muldavers plan is to come after the kids, he has shady sands nuked to try to kill her but muldaver ends up surviving. NCR wants to abandon the area but she stays and tries to unite the remaining factions in the area. She finds rose after a decade and uses her pip boy to finally seek revenge
Realistically It's just a (poor) writing decision they made so that the opening experience goes the way it did. It makes less than zero sense for her to have grabbed some raiders to do a sloppy ass job like what happened, when she could have had a small group of well trained NCR troops do it quickly and efficiently. But then there'd be no raiders in the opening, and raiders are iconic for fallout.
@@rgw7345 this is a weird thing to think. It doesnt make less than zero sense for it to happen, it actually make quite a lot of sense. The ncr has been pretty much destroyed, and she leads one of the last surviving groups of ncr. She does not have enough soldiers to travel across a desert to the vault, and she cant leave the main nrc base defenseless. Plus she probably knew the vault had weapons and didnt want to risk her soldiers being killed. So does it not make more sense for her to ally herself with a raider clan close to the vault and use them instead? You are not smarter than the writers, so problem you see in the script is very possibly something they put there deliberately, so it would make more sense to figure out why its there, instead of immediately calling it bad writing like you did.
"Most played game..." "374.1 hours" *laughs in 1k+*
Thats insane. I commend you!
@@Comporio I'm like yourself in that I love New Vegas, it's literally my favourite game every made, but I don't really like talking about it because so many NV fans are so whiney and annoying. I do think it's one of the best of the series, but Fallout 1 might actually be my favourite and I bounce between the two so often. Swag ass video btw
@@UncleDan_ Thanks my man appreciate it and I definitely get you. Its now become the norm to say New Vegas is the best and all others suck. But I might actually like Fallout 4 just as much in my opinion. Its story, writing is much weaker obviously but I might actually enjoy it more, specifically in terms of gameplay.
@@Comporio I actually really enjoyed Fallout 4. I was 14 when it came out and I literally got dumped a few months before because I wouldn't stop talking about it lol, but I loved it. And then as time went on I enjoyed it less and less, but more so because I wasn't into the characters of the story all that much but the side stuff and the gameplay I really liked. Still think my ideal Fallout game would be the world of 3, gameplay of 4 with the characters and writing of 2 and New Vegas
@@UncleDan_ Couldn’t have said it better myself my man. Thats the ideal Fallout game in my eyes.
You forgot Maximus' main perk investment in Idiot Savant.
The nitpick isn't fair because ALL we want are true adaptations of our favorite games. I didn't need a fresh take of "The Witcher," I just wanted what I already like and signed up for.
The Witcher is a hot mess. I hope future video game adaptations are more in line with fallout and less like the Witcher.
The Chinese largely used *STEALTH* submarines and bombers, and contrary to what the game did for goofiness, nukes are NOT that big, unless you drop a "Czar Bomba" which was never a practical weapon just a demonstration device.
The lore from the start of the games is that very few megaton sized "city killers" were used, instead, they used a HUGE amount of smaller nukes Hiroshima sized and larger (25 to 700kilotons) and that makes sense for a lot of reasons:
#1 they lacked advanced computers become transistors/chips didn't cone about until way later than our time line and are vital for miniaturizing and accuracy of such weapon systems, it also makes creation of "MIRV" style warheads with multiple nukes harder or impossible.
#2 kind of related to #1 they lacked advanced rocketry we have, instead it was mostly somewhat simpler like 60s or early 70s tech, or used nuclear propulsion which is a major headache all in itself and not very viable for mass bombardment! (see the "Repconn" rockets in New Vegas and the lunar missile repurposed for an ICBM in Fallout 3's museum of technology).
#3 Fallout's universe created more advanced fission *power* for practical things than we did, while possibly we have better warhead design (later is mentioned somewhere in the games IIRC).
All of that led to massive fallout production because the enormous number of bombs were mostly "ground burst" as the TV correctly shows, to cause more physical damage and crucially destroy hard military targets and produce enormous fallout that kills off the enemy *civilization*. "Big nukes" are inefficient, same principle as "cluster bombs" where lots of "small" is better, where as "a few big" is mostly a waste as the energy goes mostly upwards into space or overkill (anything beyond flattening an area is pointless).
And no you wouldn't see a bomb drop unless you were in the "you are fried" zone, lol.
You can see the re-entry vehicle of long range missiles as they make huge arcing trails as they are so hot, very spectacular when a "MIRV" comes down with 5 or more warheads (RL test footage shows that).
In "Lonesome Road" it states that the West coast was largely hit by total surprise due to the Chinese stealth tech and also, the US leaders being idiots...or possibly...letting it happen
The "Enclave" just like our real life "overlords" are greedy elitist psychopaths etc, and that leads to stupid decision making, as they are driven by irrational, scheming, and deeply cowardly crap.
They don't' really understand things because they chose not to empathize ("evil") or can't empathize (sociopathy)
They push our cautious, rational, empathic people who would get int heir way, and surrounded themselves with "Yes Men" and scumbags like themselves. Ergo...stupid decisions are made based on greed, ego, jealousy etc
One example is the turret in the TV show and in Fallout 2, iirc, in #2 if you sneak up on some Enclave soldiers guarding a base, they are bitching about having to be on guard duty while the base has many turrets, and his comrade tells him the turrets suck as the Enclave skimped out and bought cheap targeting systems, ie MK1 turrets which are crappy, lol
I love how how world and fallout is largely the same, our world just developed the microchip
@@CSorgini Well the transistor and microchip were developed in Fallout, just not until much later than our world, around 2023 for transistors and 2050 for microchips :)
@@silverbladeTE This turrent explanation isnt very great.
I'm still waiting for Super Mutants
Me too!
I want the super mutants from the classics and new vegas back, i’m so sick of the east coast ones i want them to switch it up a lil bit
It's interesting that they were left out. I'm assuming it was a pacing decision so they'd have some fan service to put into later seasons.
Season 2 most likely. Remember in NV super mutants were forced east of the Mojave.
The Enclave did tease a super mutant and there is also one on the Wanted board
@@ytmldthe super mutant in the Wanted board might be an intelligent mutant
They destroyed my home, the divide, new vegas... bear bull bear bull ~Ulysses
0:24 Fallout show if it was released in 2007
WHAT IVEEE DONEEEEE I FACED MYSELFF
fallout 1 2 and 3 have canon endings
If you think Maximus‘ arc ended in the episode he got his armor, you have not been paying attention at all
Maximus arc is NOT over. At the start he was a dumbass squire and at the end he is a dumbass knight with a girlfriend(kinda)
Nah, he is right. Maximus’ arc is all over the place. His characterisation is conveniently switched all the time during the show.
Maximus starts out as an evil and unlikeable person and he ends the show as an evil and unlikeable person
@@user-kd4gb4vj2k how so?
Yeah. He *thought* his arc was over but it very much wasn’t, he didn’t realize he was about to have a whole crisis of faith and loyalty arc instead of proving his worth
Season 2 being filmed in CA. Gonna apply as an extra at Central Casting and try to get a part as a NPC waster.
My girlfriend can't fathom how norm is my favorite character. I truly think norm is the vessel for people who are OBSESSED with the lore. Watching him figure things out and discover new things is awesome.
Holy shit, you were eleven when Fallout 4 was released? Goddamn I’m getting old. You’re really right about the Ghoul being the guy for older Fallout players.
They made the choice for you about 4 too, since Prydwen is still flying.
Who else was 23 when fallout 4 came out? This guy was 11. Wild.
It is wild to think about. I was 23 as well
I was the age he is now. 20.
Nope, sorry. I was the "Most Perfect Number" , ever = 42 LOL🤣
I was 4
@TheSirStrazzen why tf are you using those emonjis
Fallout 4 The faction ending affects the post game.
Thinking they should reveal the cold fusion at the beginning misses the entire point. A story's overall arc doesn't really matter most of the time. Most plots are generic. The thing that matters is characters. Lucy and Max are stories about blindly following/seeing the real world. They basically have a coming of age story with them. Cold Fusion adds nothing to that. It takes away from it.
Couldn’t agree more, it’s a character driven story! Each of the characters serve as a different way to view the wasteland, and they all experience growth during their journey. Not to mention the fact that they serve as an analogue for player character builds.
@@Pureblasphemy101 exactly!
@@Pureblasphemy101 imagine if the Last of Us show had told you the twist of finding the cure at the start. It's the characters that matter not the overall plot. The Last of Us has pretty generic zombie story overarching plot. It's the characters, their experiences, and their relationships that matter
I agree. But these characters are not great. They're incredibly inconsistent. Act in stupid ways because 'plot', and that goes not only for the main characters, but the side characters too. Nobody acts like a real person. They're incredibly inconsistent with their capabilities and interests, often for cheap gags or easy entertainment. They just feel like quirky, but inevitably generic characters. The stories of Max and Lucy *sucks* AND the constant attempts at humour and references are too numerous and disrupt the story too much.
Everything regarding the brotherhood was kind of unsatisfying and lacking punch. This lack of onscreen presence was 100% not helped by the awful decision to make Titus a coward who dies almost immediately in a scene for comedic relief. Imagine if Starwars started building up Darth Vader only to have him die in a Looney Tunes moment, whimpering for his life before stupidly insulting someone who then kills him. It wouldn't just hurt his character, but the Sith as a whole.
The Enclave was never touched on and the Doctor died too soon for no real reason. Could have been a significantly more interesting character and most expected better than infinite power from the MFing Enclave. I can go on and on. "Evil scientist from the worst faction makes mysterious device everyone is fighting over and...it's just a power source."
Cooper Howard was a significantly better character which the story would have been far better off being centered around even as an anti-hero. His biggest flaw is his lack of screentime and over reliance on flashbacks to tell his story rather than develop it with character interactions in the present. The best part of the show was Norm and everything happening within the vaults. That had better tension, mystery, and better buildup in comparison to every other storyline. But that failed in its conclusion. It was unsatisfying as it was mostly intended to contribute to Lucy's place in the plot than act as a satisfying conclusion to its own mini-arc.
It feels like it was too focused on "subverting expectations" that it completely failed to meet them.
@@pagatryx5451 Cooper had an entire episode essentially dedicated to.his character. And it might not have met expectations for you, but for most of us it met all expectations and some. It's pretty universally praised except by a small minority. You might not have liked it, but it was a great show. Liking something and it being good are different things. I like Teansformers and it is complete trash. I have a friend that did not like Inside Out at all but acknowledges it is a great film, but he personally just didn't like it. I know a lot of people that don't even touch video games that considering it now because they liked the show so much
Fr, LA having intact above-ground vaults and moving Shady Sands and seemingly retconing it together with the Boneyard are the just two things that made my tisim rage. The memberberries were neat, but a good show they do not make.
Something I don't see many people talking about (probably because it's not the first time it's happened), is Shady Sands got moved from it's original location. Instead of being east of the Rocky Mountains (or even on them like Fo2), it's in the middle of LA. They literally just combined Shady Sands and The Boneyard so that they could have it end at the Griffith Observatory and still have the original capital of the NCR.
The show mirrors Bethesda perfectly. Really nice world design and asthetic but mediocre dialogue and storywriting.
It's like a hollowed out papermache version of the setting people fell in love with through Fallout 1-Fallout: NV. It *looks* like fallout; They spared no expense in making sure it delivered on visuals, but beyond that, the show's a shallow representation of the game's deeper story & complex factions & societies. It just wants to market the idea to you, it doesn't actually want to commit to telling you a story in the setting.
You're bang on. Bethesda seem to pretend their games are set a couple months after the bombs dropped.
"Really nice world design" You mean complete retcon what Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas built!
@@syndicalistcat3138 I think they meant more literally. Like, as in, the world itself looks nice.
How did the do any of that?@@syndicalistcat3138
Totally agree that fallout would be amazing as a Paul verhoeven movie
Im guessing the doctor was a loose reference to doctor henry at jacobstown, the enclave remnant doctor who also specialized in canine and human brains
The show can't exist in the same univers as the classics! Shady Sands is not in Los Angeles but up north in Death Valley. Vault 33/32/31 and 4(Boneyard Vaults) are right in the open anyone can see the entrance yet they are not breached by the Super Mutant Army, The Cathedral is right in the middle of the Boneyard where the Children of the Cathedral , the Unity, the Mutant Army and THE fu**ing MASTER is residing, its IMPOSIBLE they never found the Vaults that close to them with the doors right in the open!
The Master is long dead by the time the of the show, but yeah, either he or The Enclave would have easily found the show's vaults.
Don't think about it, just consume product and be excited for the next product
@@mysampleid We literally are thinking about it, and we like the show. I just don't get you complainers!
@@mysampleid But I want to think and want good consistent sories, the Bethesda cult members hate me for it.
@@syndicalistcat3138 you see fallout was always goofy and wacky so every inconsistency and characters stupidity is totally justified
Comporio's weird australian accent makes me believe everything he says
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The Fallout show really does boil down to a lot of references duct taped together. Even plot points like the scientist's head being carried around feels taken straight out of a New Vegas side quest. A joke people liked is "thou shalt not get sidetracked" but that was just another reference to the games as well.
The show making references to the games is bad
Alright, got it.
@@obama7855 No, it's not bad at all. But when it's just nothing but references, it can get a little bit "Yes we know."
@@Xegethra thought it was expected for a tv show about a videogame to make references to the games the show is based on.
@@obama7855 Missing the point. The show overdoes it. It doesn't need to cram every little thing from the games, just for the sake of people pointing and going "I get it." Place stuff in yes, but don't shove it all in where it needn't be.
@@Xegethra it didn't felt like that.
Does everyone forget The Expanse is also an Amazon show? That show is awesome
Not amazon created. It was a network tv show that bezos liked so much he bought the show after it was being canceled on TV. Just continued it on Amazon after that. So Amazon studios gets no credit in creating the show.
This is my first time watching your channel, and i gotta say that i love your humor and editing.
IF YOU DO YOUR OWN EDITING, YOU DESERVE A RAISE. YOU'RE DOING SOME REALLY HARD WORK WITH THIS.
You know that everyone is going to be watching this because, fallout, but you really out fallout the fallout fans for this one. I got to say, top class. I know this, because Tyler knows this.
Except for 19:15 the reason they were set up for power was because Shady Sands. NCR was powered by a vault and it's cold fusion core, and everything else they developed after it for like the past ... 50-100 years.... including simple filament light bulbs they could make better in the Wild West times of the 1800s. It's not actually that advanced of a technology, especially if you can take the old bulbs and just replace the glass. Glass itself is the most advanced part of the tech.
Thanks mate! Yes I do all of this myself so thanks for the compliment.
They may have rebuilt shady sands prior, but it was still nuked again even after the 200 years, also the man power and time it would take to even go ahead and replace the wiring and the lightbulbs in every single one of thos buildings is just too large of a feat it took me out instantly.
Well the more I think about it, the NCR and House endings make the most sense because the NCR military and economy was declining and spread thin. If they succeeded in the Mojave it would strain their resources even more, and if it was the House Ending, the NCR would still be on the decline economically, the military would be demoralized. The worst thing that could happen for the NCR was if Kimball lived because Kimball was a complete pariah already, so his assassination would’ve turned him into a martyr and reinvigorated the NCR’s resolve. Considering Todd stated the NCR is still kicking cause he had to explain that since folks who are “Ultra NCR fans” somehow forget that Shady Sands was one city with a relatively small fraction of the entire population of the NCR being nearly, at, or over a million citizens and soldiers. No folks, the NCR didn’t get deleted, they are just spread thin because of the expansions they were doing, something the lore established in New Vegas, had really messed up their economy and military might. Todd has also stated that they took things from each New Vegas ending, but they are not choosing a specific one. Considering that this takes place 15 years after New Vegas, it has been 15 years since the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, meaning anything could’ve happened between the end of the game and this time in the story.
I will say as both a fan who started with F:NV (being my favorite), I enjoyed the show and love it. I don’t fault folks for disliking it, cause it does have its faults. But when folks try to use specific opinions they hold to try and ruin the experience for others, I think their opinions are moot and should be ignored like Star Wars Theory, Geeks + Gamers, Doomcock and the rest of those grifting clowns. The show led to my fiancé picking up New Vegas (as in I of course being the loving man I am, bought it for her when she wanted a fallout game), and it allowed my parents to connect with me a bit more about a game and its story/universe I enjoyed growing up on as a kid.
@13:06 as someone who's favourite fallout game is new Vegas and doesn't really interact with the general fallout community that's exactly how i feel lol. great video man.
edit: i didn't see the end credits, well maybe a mister house ending and he is still alive somewhere in there and thats why he's going there we'll see
I think they should have had a dancing box in the show just spinning and bouncing in the show. But, no one pays it any mind at all because it has been in all 3d fallouts.
"I know this, because Tyler knows this" caught me off guard and made me laugh super hard lol
Fallout show was a little mid tbh but you got it right, visually it was great, and its solid in other areas but mostly needed a much better plot which as you said again ironic considering that bethesdas main quests are worst parts about the games
New comporio vid, I am seated
🫡 thank you sir
I'd say the ghoul is more like a 13 year olds oc than an experienced player. He's op like he's using console commands to toggle god mode and responds to every interaction with the "sarcastic" choice. An experienced player doesn't always go gun blazing as they know there are alternative routes.
Do you have 200 years time logged? Goofy.
i agree. Experienced players role play more often. That's what I do
Bro the fact that LA didn’t erupt like a flare from a shit ton of electrical problems was wild as crunk. Also the ghoul juice was a major league buzz kill because I thought that was jet, which is funny as hell.
I mean, I kind of disagree with you that they should all need to know what they are fighting for, because they do know what they are fighting for, the head means something for each of them. For Lucy she’s fighting to get her dad back, Maximus is fighting for a place in the brotherhood, and the Ghoul is fighting for money.
I want to clarify on this a bit and I will use your comment to do so. The best example of this in the games is the Platinum Chip in New Vegas. It has its mystery, but strictly using the main quest as its linear narrative it is the midpoint of the story that reveals what the platinum chip is actually for. NOT at the climax at the end. I just want to clarify that with the head, the climax that its actually an energy device that can power a city which miraculously has all of its electronics and lightbulbs still intact for hundreds of empty buildings is just insane to me and it felt like it Jumped the Shark.
The ghoul's in it to find his family, not just money
@@Gaspar27r well yes but that doesn’t come in until later, and he doesn’t initially know there’s any connection to his past beyond California
@@lazydroidproductions1087 i think he figured out when Honcho (the guy rhat took him out of the coffin) talked about Moldaver that she'd be his best bet
This was a great watch, you for sure deserve way more subs man. Hoping you blow up soon!
Thank you sir!
I knew his face is familiar, but until this video i didn't noticed, that Hank MacLean is Lynch's Paul Atrede xD
As Creetosis stated in his videos, the forced overuse of Oldies songs every 5 seconds ROYALLY sabotaged any tone which would have gave tension to a scene.
“Get that jelly mold out of here!”
Love how you used game footage here, especially the sides scrolling transitions.
0:31 “nuke-yoo-lar” isn’t a word.
“Nuke-lee-ar” is a word tho
All words are made up
halo fan is malding still that his show sucks absolute dick
The social network ost tappin crazy
I refuse to believe people born after 2001 actually exist
The power being switch on in LA might no make sense, but the hopeful sucker inside me likes the idea of a city finally getting its shit together and having that sense of the old world coming back.
I still wish they had Hugh Laurie as Robert House 💀
Me too my man me too…
The goat is back
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I liked the show. Every Fallout game changes aspects of its own lore in order to best suite the narrative of that particular installment. The Fallout TV show is a different atmosphere to the older Fallout games, but it is a great show about Fallout.
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The most lighthearted, family friendly movie ever
This video was very good, and I agree with the points. I think the fallout show was good, even though I also agree that some parts of the plot are lost, however I still think its good. I like how this series is a continuation of the fallout series. Im looking forward to seeing how they encorporate new vegas and whether they will assume a previous plot in new vegas or not.
0:24 in 2007 I was born
No way people are younger than me
@@ComporioI was born in 20
I was in my 2nd year in University at that time and oh shit, you are almost "adult legal age".
@@nodinitiative best 16 years of my life also the worst because school
@@B1_1_9_7_5 well, school is suppose to be both good and bad, its one of your stages of life. Soon will be your college and maybe university life and the either business or work life and also family life.
On a completely different note, i hate it when a documentary or video like this takes a picture and puts a bar over a random persons eyes.
It’s a dumbass design choice for sure
Dude, what's the synth music you used in this video? It sounds dope. Also, I caught the White Lines bass line near the end.
ill answer only if you say "wow"
@CSorgini Wow, thanks man. Hope you're not pulling my leg for a free wow.
@@owenwilsonsayingwow haha i believe he used “In Motion” by trent reznor, is the synth sound you are looking for, it belongs to the movie the social network which is a great watch and one of the best films of the last 20 years.
@@CSorgini Yep, that's it. Thanks! It vaguely sounds like Blue Monday by New Order, but I knew that wasn't it.
@@owenwilsonsayingwow haha no problem!
I think most people who can't stop talking about how much they hate the show should remember Todd and Emil never cared about "canon" in the first place. They only even understand that word as far as it describes a type of media they consider of a "higher form" than others. They think it sounds cool. It's PR - it's marketing. Responsibly declaring a piece of media "canon" comes with the implicit promise that you will put in effort to maintain continuity, which I don't believe they're capable of, let alone willing to do. The showrunners screwed up the lore, and Todd Howard ran damage control for them, calling the whole show "canon". I do not let the Fallout TV show ruin my enjoyment of the Fallout IP, and neither should you - at the end of the day, Bethesda will retcon the TV show in a few years. I don't put stock in what is and isn't "canon" in the Fallout universe, and neither should you - the legal owners of the IP don't care, so why should you? What will your internet whining achieve except you having an angry life? You still have a certain power over the IP as a consumer: only play the good Fallout games. Don't let the worse ones get you down! Damn, I am high af rn
By now we should consider the Fallout IP as what it is, mangled beyond recognition. The original vision and ideas are completely lost, anyone that expects even a tiny spark of F1 and F2 is just an idiot at this point, it's better to cling to those games and ignore whatever comes out of Bethesda, otherwise frustration is all but guaranteed.
I will continue playing the OG games with no expectation of further developments. The TV show might as well not exist for me, like Fallout 4 and 76. Fallout 3 is the only non-Black Isle/Interplay/Obsidian game I consider to be a Fallout game at all, and it's the shittiest one hands down, they really shit the bucket after that though and its sequels are just background noise and TV static at best.
1:11 This might be me just coping, but I believe that dev was making a late April fools joke.
15 day late april fools joke, is the best type of april fools joke
@@Comporio Well maybe the Sole Survivor changed as a person canonically
@@jodo4661 The war crime would also explain how he is so good at killing raiders as well.
No worries! They immediately retconned that bit of “lore” about 15 hours after it was posted! But people seem to forget that part
@@jodo4661dude stop
I think people are reading too much into the outro to the final episode I think that was more or less just concept art
This was a very good video, I agree with your points. I think that the series is good, and has elements that may be stupid in the plot, but overall it was enjoyable. Im looking forward to how they incorporate New Vegas and if they will cannonise a polt or not.
16:40 Waaaiiit a second, i think you stumbled onto something here. Regarding how much effort they put in the visuals even in that scene, forgetting the missiles by accident seems highly unlikely. The corporations discuss that they will have to make sure the bombs fall and the war escalates, so they whipe out all possible competitors on the long run. Yes, a lot of bombs fell from the sky, but they had to make sure to destroy everything and air defense fails. So yes, indications are shown that they simply ingited some nukes on the ground to finnish everything off.
They didn't show the nukes because they wanted the shocking part to be the multiple explosions. The scene would not be as effective otherwise.
17:45 The NPC learned how to jump. XD
when u started to explain lucy character and the skyrim music started, gave me a lot nostalgia, awesome editing and storytelling by the way.
bro your timing got me cracking up, great video
I dont really mind canonizing an ending, theres still different timelines, and the games before pretty much had a cannon or default ending. Everyone wanted a "new vegas 2" If we got a new vegas 2, they'd have to set a canon ending lol, thats how you build apon things and tell an intertwining story
I have always been open to a New Vegas 2, but yes it would be tricky in a sense. I guess they could do something never done before in a game and have you pick which ending you chose in New Vegas to continue a new story based on the ending you chose for the second game. Think of it as basically post game after your New Vegas ending.
The enclave never dies
How could you not mention that the show made ghouls basicslly immortal to phsical atacks, and that they self heal. In the show the dude that becomes a ghoul it heals his foot and he is shot in the neck with an arrow, it doesnt kill him and he self heall when he pulls it out. In the games ghouls are just as easy to kill as humans and can only be healed by special ghouls called "glowing ones" idk that bothered me they basically made ghouls the most powerful creatures when in the games they are only a issue when in large packs with a glowing one.
“They Live” is a fantastic movie, highly recommend it
The show is basically “look at this cool thing from the games” and that’s it
whats with the censor bar over people's eyes in the thumbnails nowadays? why is it so overused
idk it looks cool,
me like thing that look cool so me use it
Most of your criticisms are very intentional choices. I do agree that plots centered around McGuffins are lazy, but this was ultimately a red herring. While cold fusion certainly offers a lot of potential for every faction, it's still nothing compared to what was actually being set up regarding Vault-Tec. I mean, sure, the brotherhood can get liberty prime and more airships going, but that is nothing compared to the realization that regardless of whether or not they DID start the apocalypse, they had the power to do so, and with Hank, a middle manager having access to enough nuclear armaments to take out Shady Sands on his own, Vault-Tec are in a position where they can wipe out the surface a second time whenever they see fit. It also seems to be implying that the Enclave have some connection as well, and letting the brotherhood get their hands on cold fusion could be according to plan. A perfect distraction.
As for canonizing New Vegas, you can't expect the entire series to just avoid majorly important implications to lore so that a 14 year old game's choices seem important. Sucks for New Vegas nerds...but fuck em. Anyway, being that the show is canon, it's not following the conventions of television writing, but video game writing, and Iit's absolutely a benefit. A typical television series will have very self-contained plots in a season with the next arc being set up at the end, but this first season was more of the end of an act, or the end of disc 1. What we thought was the main story was blown open by the ending and everything turned out to be leading to that point. This is the point in a game where your much smaller adventure becomes much more earth-shattering.
I do really appreciate the difficulty it takes to look critically at something that you initially loved and feel hyped about.
Moldaver was probably the worst written part of the entire show
Like, she's apparently good friends with Lucy's mom and have met Lucy herself as a child
One of her motivations besides obtaining Cold Fusion was to avenge her best friend, yet she callously attacks Vault 32 with a group of raiders that nearly killed her best friend's kids
And afterwards?
She lets Lucy wander the wastes alone, even though she fully expected her too do so like her mom once did
She also puts out a bounty for the Enclave scientist, and yet had people already escorting him to her.
So in the end all she achieved was sabotaging herself by making bounty hunters(the ghoul) attack her people who were already doing their job, delaying the delivery of Cold Fusion needlessly, and nearly lost it to the Brotherhood.
Also she decided to hold out at some abandoned Observatory near Shady's ruins, which is already portrayed to have 0 NCR presence, instead of any other NCR cities deeper in NCR territory
Also what was up with the whole Cooper going "She didn't looked like that when I last saw her" bit
Or the people of Vault 4 worshipping Moldaver?
Like, none of that went anywhere because she literally dies in ep 8
I appreciate how you talked about something different other than just complaining that they nuked shady sands for the 16th time like other reviews ive seen from fans
Fallout show is what happens when you're given a bethesda title. You forget everything the show's main story (quest) is about because it sucks so and run off doing whatever. The show is full of "Oh wow cram! Oh the hacking minigame! He mentioned the water chip pog!" But the actual already established Fallout Lore is all over the place. If you're a zoomie you probably don't care or haven't played it but lets look at some things.
Why ghouls need drugs not to go feral? They don't even need radaway even if it was. Straight up a guy in Necropolis (Winthrop) who's a ghoul studies ghouls says radaway is worthless. Ghouls go insane because of too much constant exposure to rads. Their DNA is damaged. Also who the fukk is making this stuff? The BOS? NCR? The Enclave? They all hate mutants lmao.
The Enclave are back because of course they are and for some reason they're into cold fusion and this is the plot point. Uh you guys already have this with the GECK through vault tec. The Government, enclave, vault tec... what the fukk is this?
Every Protag from Bestheda comes from a vault. Zzzz. Fallout 1 you where a vault bro. Fallout 2 you were a Unga Bunga. Fallout NV you were a courier on the surface. Creatively bankrupt. Bethseda doesn't seem to understand the scale of the fallout world either and the surface never changes beyond a few metal shacks here and there. Everything still looks like it's been nuked 10 years ago. (This was mentioned near the end of the video.) The phrase "War never changes" is everywhere because humans blah blah but the world the war is fought in does. (Or should but not the case I guess. NV had to use old assets and didn't have time to create new ones.)
Shady Sands lmao.
A guy in power armor losing to a literal bear. How? Just because it's called a "Yao guai" It's a bear on rads which is still a regular bear. You could put on a suit of plate armor from the 1400's and you should be able to chase it off. Power armor can deflect small arms fire to the point some claws and teeth shouldn't be an issue. If it were a deathclaw that'd make more believable as they're bio engineered for straight up killing.
Why are the vaults so easy to find? Why did they move the boneyards and such? Why did the master not find these vaults when 4 is broadcasting it's location and lucy and them and just walk in? A bunch of dumb raiders could do it and raiders are dumb. That whole raider thing was also dumb.
NCR lol. Did the largest force in the west just roach out? What happened. (Also what is this blood cult stuff in shady sands? weird but whatever.)
The BoS must be some sort of raider faction larping as the BOS. They don't even know how to use the fukking flashlights on their armor. Also where are their lasers? All they seem to have is power armor that falls apart in 2 seconds and don't know how to use. (How would they not find the "flaws"? How did major operations like anchorage happen with this?) They spend more time backstabbing and being cowards than anything. Brotherhood of Steel? More like Bumbledumbs of Stupid.
And the worst offender of them all? The lack of anyone saying RED CHINESE COMMUNISTS. We all know why, censorship. Absolute Ball-less communist behavior. There also wasn't a single liberty prime reference the one thing almost everyone would remember. They say "the reds" but what if you've never "Falled out" once? Who are the reds? The Soviets? The British? Time Traveling Marked Men?
I don't even care about the vault tec stuff unless they straight up say "Yeah they did it they did the nukes it wasn't the chinese it was us VAULT TEC! We're going to be so rich lmao. We're going to control america and the world" New flash idiot prewar money (or any money on a scale disaster like this) is worthless and rich people already control the world now. You need to establish a world but who cares everyone lives in shacks still and day to day is all survival.
I just pretend it's a funny whacky wasteland adventure where I've taken the Wild Wasteland perk 10 times in a row. It's insane.
It might be that the audience's first expose to the Fallout franchise was through memes and funny TH-camrs, which isn't a bad thing but it is when they just view the series as a comedy along with not caring about it's beginings
@@gamaactive8278 Yeah I have a feeling this is both for the more casual / fallout 4 /76 and the "TV" crowd. I'm tired of "long time fans" defending it as canon when it's clear there's issues.
The dumb dialogue I don't even mind I just assume it's a speech check failure. I think if this show took place somewhere else in the world instead of already established west coast 90% of these issues could be thrown out.
@@XzMondayNightzX You're probably right on the audience part, though another part to add is that "fans" got too complacent on accepting constant plot holes because "Bethesda always did that" as an excuse. I guess they never heard that tolerating bad products will lead to terrible results. Either way I'm sure the actual fans will just move to Metro or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. since those two give the vibes of dread and having to focus on surviving in a apocalypse.
As for the dumb dialogue it might be due to the co-creator/ co-showrunner, Geneva Robertson-Dworet, who as far as i know worked on the 2018 Tomb Raider and Captain Marvel.
I'm pretty sure it would've had the same outcome even if it didn't took place in the West Coast given it's still comedy focus, the best they could've done is a cartoon with the Vault Tec animation instead.
@@gamaactive8278 "As for the dumb dialogue it might be due to the co-creator/ co-showrunner, Geneva Robertson-Dworet, who as far as i know worked on the 2018 Tomb Raider and Captain Marvel."
Man, you just killed the last little embryo of hope I had for this clusterfuck. Fuck this, I'm out.
«The phrase "War never changes" is everywhere because humans blah blah»
Ulysses says «if war doesn't change, men must change», which is a great summary of Fallout and Bethesda doesn't get it in the slightest
«We all know why, censorship. Absolute Ball-less communist behavior.»
no, they're just morons, New Vegas had a somewhat leftist skew and wasn't afraid to engage with the red scare and ridicule it
What if the writers keep the ambiguity for FNV ending bc of the Lonesome Road tunnelers. The Tunnelers get to NV and destroy the city so it didn’t matter which ending was chosen and keep continuity.
Great video, editing and humor. - Paul Cooper, FBI, Arakis
I do not understand how you can say finding Lucy's father is the main quest while completely ignoring the fact that the so called "vault subplot" is the main story. It's pretty clear they are trying to expand on vault tec and what they are doing and the wasteland stuff was a fetch quest. The all the prewar call back scenes are about vault tec and the over arcing plot AKA THE MAIN QUEST
Just separate the games from the show , cinema and videogames apart , the lore of the show can be its own thing
16:51 If they were buried, the explosion would be completely different. Part of the effectiveness of atom bombs was that they detonate well *above* the ground. Oppenheimer indicated that the optimum height for detonation is 1,910 feet (580m) above the target. For example, Little Boy detonated at 1,968 feet above Hiroshima.
Well, in the fallout universe they actually were specifically ground-burst nukes, so you would get a crater, because the idea is ground a burst nuke which releases a lot more fallout and then everybody on the enemy side dies from it and you have won
The sad thing is that this show got away with its poor writong because it's a "Satire" which means it's SUPPOSED to be bad. Apparently, but that's also most people's defense for the inconsistency of the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
Very good review as always
Thank you sir
For me the show should have never let lucy and maximus meet a second time. Rather the brotherhood should of just declared war with the not NCR which the mother flame cult should have just been children of atom and lucy's mom should have been a glowing one needed for the secret ingredient for the cold fusion to work if they want to use ghouls there different types some just never go feral. Also would have had lucy have more time with the enclave scientist and dogmeat then an episode of lucy and dog meat no talking just exploration I would have preferred over all the vault 4 stuff. the show used too much in my opinion of brotherhood of steel and vault tec I like the cooper connection to most of this but his wife is not the girl boss of vault tec the shit coming out of her mouth about money when she has a daughter making it so out of character for a mother and black woman. Also mr. house had a better idea then to work with vault-tec they just use his gear he really wouldn't plan to bomb the world like the show suggest. you can cut the chicken fucker the radio station quest and most of vault 4 if not the whole thing and use that to have the water chip be pushed on lucy's brother as punishment for asking too many questions now that the dad is abducted hostage and presumed killed. If I could add one cameo it would be f4rank horrigans brain in a jar at the enclave base and he survived the oil rig so he can be used in the next season to have frank horrigan against the brotherhood of steel in new vegas.
sweet video man i'm gonna sub and stick around to see where your channel goes
Thank you man much appreciated!
How do you not have more subs this video is fire
People that say the story or world building sucks, either never touched a fallout game or the just dont care about it, they just shoot thing, its sad but hey, true fans eating good
True fans have to like everything?
The ending of the show, when lucys dad was explaining everything and the battle was going down, that was one of the most epic things ever. He may have been so wrong but his speech gives me chills!
Sorry dude but the hype for that show is still going strong even after all this time
You really forgot "the expanse" for good amazon shows. And honestly i think there are a few more we are not aware of
I only watched the series once and actually thought the scientist was brotherhood until you pointed out that plot err in ur vid
How did you miss that
Vegas is destroyed and that can be that without effecting or having to canonize any of the decisions that the courier makes. Vegas being destroyed would make sense if you consider what Ulysses said about the tunnelers and if I’m not mistaken there’s nothing the courier can do to make sure this won’t happen Ulysses states this as fact: “Tunnelers. Predators that make their own roads beneath the ground here… Be a slower death for the Mojave than bombs and fire... Mojave'll be easy prey for them. They'll start emerging throughout the Mojave in time, might be years. Probably less. They breed fast, hunt in groups, more than enough to bring down the strongest in the Mojave.”
The tunnellers route is the only option I am personally willing to accept, if they decide to even explore it that much in season 2.
I'm so happy that the algorithm recommended you to me, your editing is just perfect. Here, have a sub my guy ❤
What do you mean? The main quest tells you what the canon ending is the moment you get it: The House Always Wins