Thanks for watching! We also put both of these cars on the Dyno to get real world results. You can watch that video here: th-cam.com/video/e7eK3itH6KI/w-d-xo.html
My son and his wife looked at both, She liked the Camry, he liked the Accord. They have 3 kids all in car seats, and the 3 car seats fit both cars. For both of them, the trunk space was what made them buy the Accord. I've been in both cars, and I can't see anybody going wrong with either one, if its what you want.
In the end you can't really go wrong with either. In Colorado, the lack of AWD on both cars is a problem. That is why Subaru sells a ton of cars here even if the Legacy is an appliance compared to these two. Nissan adding an AWD option to the 2019 Altima is also a huge deal, especially with the Altima being #2 in sales nationally behind the Camry.
I'm betting Honda puts out an AWD Accord here soon. Their Acura TLX now comes in AWD and it's amazing, and it's basically the same car just with a nicer interior and better looks (That TLX A-Spec is so pretty!). Honda has had lots of AWD cars over the years... I'm certain it's coming. SH-AWD Accord would be a best seller.
But it does help with tire wear and handling. And driving an AWD in the snow up hill is a lot easier than a FWD or RWD... so I'd say it does help. The extra weight makes it bad for stopping though.
Actually, AWD does help in the snow, especially when combined with good tires. People who say things like "AWD doesn't help in snow" don't live in places like Colorado.
I wouldn't take my FWD thru a snowstorm in the Mountains, but I'd take a Subaru or SH-AWD vehicle. For the most part though, driving around here in the winter, FWD does the trick with the right tires.
My wife has the 2018 camry and I have the 2018 accord sport 2.0T 6mt the accord is way more fun to drive and very tourque I hate the accord taillights but the camry styling is better but accord has better tech and more fun to drive.
Jee Vang he literally stated that he has the 2.0T Sport... did you even watch the video? The accord 2.0T is a 10spd automatic, and Honda has consistently been more reliable than Toyota. Check yourself before you wreck yourself mate, Have a good day.
yeah on video Accord looks prettier but in real life I've seen both cars on the road, Camry looks way better than Accord irl and on the road. On the road Accord stylings looks like any other sedans like BMW or Lexus etc, but Camry looks so sporty, unique, sparkling and charming on the road.
Snowy my brother has the accord, i have the camry. His is a way more fun drive, but not sure where honda is more reliable. They have made a lot of weak transmissions. Not just CVT. I also like that Toyota has dual port and direct injection preventing carbon issues inherent in GDI. Honda has known oil dilution issues in the 1.5. Choir is out on 2.0
@@iPvpTiger check yourself? Have you ever even owned a camry before? Or have talked to people who've clocked 500+ thousand km's on their cars? If you want reliability stop wasting money on touch screens and electric comforts. The money you "saved" will only go toward broken sensors and electrical problems. Buy an older car instead?
@@mgobluevictor definitely my next car, but probably gotta wait another year. I have a 2014 Sport with only 60k on it, but want the extra power and 6 speed.
Finally the perfect video, well done guys! I own a Honda Accord 2018 and it’s so fun to drive. Super spacious too. Someone confused it with a Benz and I laughed 😂. But I love the look of the Camry too.
Honestly I would pick the Accord, with the manual and the Civic Type R engine. The Accord's styling is starting to grow on me as well. Meanwhile the Camry is okay but just not my cup of tea, but at least it has a V6 option.
DETUNED engine. Different pistons, higher pressure fuel pump, cams, and turbo. Hondata would help with that but the limiting factor is fuel pump and a smaller turbo for the accord to make it somewhat of a type-r
Having driven both cars back-to-back, I bought a 2018 Accord Touring the day they went on sale. The Camry is just missing way too much technology. No memory seats, no cooled seats, no Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, no over-the-air software updates...Toyota really porked it away big time with the Camry. Doesn't hurt that the Accord is less expensive, faster, and had a much more functional interior. Happy with my decision. I have yet to see any major car publications give the Camry a victory over the Accord in any comparison test. The Camry has always been a bit of a dud. This new one is the best yet, but Honda still outdid Toyota, yet again.
Matt Speer just like the Accord doesn't have a real audio system, 360 camera and a panoramic sunroof. The only options toyota needs is their CarPlay update and the memory seats which 2019 will likely add. I dont see how anyone can bare the audio system in the Accord.
Um...the audio system in the Accord Touring sounds significantly better than the joke "upgrade" JBL system in the higher end Camrys. Believe me, I tested that aspect out thoroughly as a good sound system is one of my primary concerns when buying a new vehicle. The one in the Camry was pretty bad. Very muddy sound. Who needs a 360 deg camera in a family sedan that has great visibility out of it? If offered on the Accord, would I take it? Yes. But that's not an essential feature. Memory/cooled seats are way more important to me. What makes you think Toyota will add memory seats in 2019? Typically major changes don't happen until the mid-cycle refresh, which won't happen until 2021 for the Camry. Even then, I can't see them adding memory seats. They "reserve" features like memory seats and cooled seats for the Avalon. Pretty dumb since most of the Camry's competitors offer that stuff now.
Matt Speer sorry bud but if you think the audio system in the touring accord is better than the JBL uiu have completely lost your mind. In fact hire just a flat out liar.... there are even TH-cam comments of owners that talk about how bad the Accord sound system is. There is know way you compared the two audio systems so you must work for Honda. The Accord doesn't even have name brand speakers and every other car brand has name brand speakers. Nice try...
Matt Speer I'll leave this here.. Enjoy the car no one wants and my local dealer has over 300 in stock and even my Honda salesman I've known for years says he hopes they redesign soon. www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sc-auto-tips-honda-accord-not-selling-20180319-story.html
Wow, you really are ignorant about car sound systems if you think a name brand like JBL equals high quality sound, lol. You are probably a big fan of Bose systems, too. No I don't work for Honda. This is the first Honda I have owned since 2007 (was actually an Acura TSX). I have owned two Hyundais and one Genesis in the interim. I used to own a Camry in the early 2000s. I thoroughly test drove both the new Accord and new Camry twice, and the Accord was clearly superior. Why do you think it is that zero car magazines have given the Camry a win over the Accord in a comparison test? The best phrase comparing the two I've heard is: "Toyota built a better Camry. Honda built a better car." Pretty simple. But you are obviously a Toyota fan boy who can't handle someone sharing FACTS that paint the Camry in a negative light.
@@kalookakoo5 I understand you. But why is they running a V6 against a turbo engine. My opinion the V6 is stronger. The turbo do lage a bit and can go out. Me I just think the V6 is better. I'm not going to keep this up no more. I know that all other cars that has V6 are stronger. I have drove them all. But at that stand still a turbo got to wind up.I look at all the test runs against every car you have done and I think that Honda is not that fast. But if you think so.I believe it. But all cars motor are not the same and weight limit also. Just like what I see in the Mustang. I think that car is faster then most cars but it's to heavy. Both car are great. I just like the Carmy better. Have a nice day
I traded in my 2016 accord for an 18 Camry. No regrets. I absolutely love this car. It drives so much more comfortably and feels just more refined than the accord. My Camry has the four-cylinder engine and I have no complaints about it especially the fuel mileage.
Ok so I own a 2018 camry v6 and I noticed that its slow to take off when you first flore it, while the engine is cold. However, when the engine is completely wormed up, man the car flies. I mean its like it doesn't even know what to do with all that power. Its crazy fast.
That's bullshit. I work at a hotel in Waikiki. There are lots of Honda Accords, Civics, and HRV's parked in our guest parking. Why do Honda fanboys make up this crap?
jgijoe and I work for a Honda Dealership in Arizona. They don’t make up this crap. It’s true. Why do toyota fan boys make up THIS crap? Don’t believe me? Look at resale values of any Honda vs Toyota. Trim to trim in the used market right now ?
Pislui Honda is struggling to move the accords right now. It's to point where they have to lower the price on them. I use to love the accord but now it looks like a fake Audi A7.
Pislui they chose them for low maintenance and reliability. I think that's a compliment. Only people that don't work for a living see that as a negative. Good to see working small business people buying the best for their business. Both are great cars, but at his is the first Turbo Accord. People are waiting how reliable it turns out.
If you don't count fleet sales the accord does sell more than the Camry. Also the main reason the Camry is still selling well and the accord isn't is because of dealer and lease incentives. If you take equally equipped camrys and accords the Camry can be leased for 219 a month with 1999 due at signing where the accord is 249 a month with 3999 due at signing. It's Toyota that's lowering the price to move cars, Honda isn't so sales are slowing. Honda has openly admitted this and says they are fine with it.
TurboNFRStwoK / that's the excuse Honda has been using for years. In fact, since 1990, when someone out sells them.The Accord is an amazing car, and anyone that buys one will be getting a great car, but not a great deal in pricing. The Honda Dealership network has been complaining for months for incentives, the car is priced out of the Market. There's strong competition in that category. The Toyota Camry is an amazing car. The Dealership network is very happy with the car. There's customers are getting a good car for a great price. To downplay the Camry is a mistake. It's a great car.
TurboNFRStwoK / again, those are called incentives. Second, Honda has lots of left over 2017's, especially in Los Angeles, the real reason that don't have specials on the new one, is because they gave away the 2017's, and still need to sell the left overs. You are reading Honda's press release. The fleet sales the Camry has to date is not as high as you think. The Camry can easily hold its own against the Accord, it's just they know what the going rate on what the free market will pay for one. Honda is selling tons of CRV's, and current market will pay full price on the CRV, not the Accord. Toyota recognizes that the mid size market is soft, but they don't want to give up on it. The have the RAV4 for what the market demands. They know that with the way things are, you can't get top dollar for a midsize sedan. Honda says they're fine with it, but not their dealerships. Don't read press releases, go out in the market. Talk to people in the field. Look up the trade magazines on line, ( not the meaningless advertising Road and track, Car and Driver), and you'll get a better understanding of the Automarket. Nissan's Altima is improved, and will be priced aggressively. Toyota is trying to get all the sales they can to get word of mouth, expose the car to enough people to have a successful 2019. If Honda doesn't change strategy, they are going to lose midsize sedan share next year. Mazda stepped up too. It's not just the Camry to worry about.
10tenman10 wait that doesnt make sense. The higher the altitude, the denser the air, the denser the air, the less oxygen for the motor. So how does that have any effect on the accord vs the Camry. (I agree with the V6 being more reliable though)
Because the turbocharger maintains the same performance as lower altitudes because it uses exhaust gases to operate. Whereas the Camry's naturally aspirated engine has to rely all on the air. And no, the higher the altitude, the thinner the air. If the air is denser then it means there's more oxygen.
Matte Exactly! People need to drive their cars up here at altitude to fully understand. Not that it was a better car, but my Cobalt SS Turbocharged was faster in a quarter mile than my buddies Mustang GT.
wrong. The density of air decreases with height. There are two reasons: at higher altitudes, there is less air pushing down from above, and gravity is weaker farther from Earth's center. So at higher altitudes, air molecules can spread out more, and air density decreases
Honda Accord looks better hands down. Toyotas are reliable but they look and feel cheap. Hondas are just as reliable if not a lil bit more and they give you a lot for your money so I’ll go with the Honda Accord.
It's very much fair. There's a lot of people that live at elevation and goes to show how important a real world test is, rather than number fudging that goes with magazine reviews (hint: they don't get the numbers they quote - it's computationally adjusted to SAE testing standards)
I love the Camry I’d rather buy that but I’ll never understand why Honda doesn’t use a premium audio like Toyota Honda’s stereo will never be nearly as good as what’s in the Camry
@@turbodarkle yeah i know The only problem for infiniti here in my countriy Saudi Arabia is the dealer each 2 years new dealer take the brand But kia and hundai dealer is good
The only reason why Camry sold more was because Toyota had better incentives, and it had also been out for longer so dealerships could offer better incentives. Otherwise enthusiasts were pretty unanimous in saying that the Accord was better.
Great work, you guys! I think this is the best TFL video in a while. Keep it up! Difficult choice. I like the 6-cylinder and the panoramic sunroof in the Camry. I like the Camry from every angle, but the front end kills it for me. I am actually surprised at how much I like the styling of the Accord, considering I normally don't like chrome and the personification of cars (i.e., unibrow). I also love the wheels on the Accord. And the interior of the Accord, with its simple lines, is a winner in my book. However, I don't like the button shifter. It seems gimmicky since it takes as much space as a traditional shifter would. Overall, though, I would pick the Accord.
Just bought my wife a 2020 Accord sport with a 6 speed manual. Definitely a fun car to drive around. I can’t believe people are arguing about “reliability” they’re both super reliable. Buy the one you like, my wife with only buy a manual so the Accord was for us.
I went and test drove the Accord sport yesterday.. i like so many was a little iffy about the design, but seeing it in person and driving it totally changed my mind! The 2.0 is quick enough for any normal person. I'm 6'2" and sitting behind myself i still had about 4-6 inches of leg room and my head barely touched the roof. The trunk is HUGE! If you don't like the looks i get that, but the rest of the car is on point. These cars are both really nice, i have yet to drive the Toyota, but the inside of the Accord pretty much seals it for me. I don't think you can go wrong either way, it's just going to come down to which one looks better to you.
Having had the 2016 Camry for almost 3 years I gotta say, I’ve been disappointed with the finish and quality of the vehicle. Looking at the latest Accords, it seems like more attention goes to the actually quality and design of their vehicle than on the Camry. They just look so much better.
Stay away from turbo if you are a cost-conscious consumer, doesn't matter who makes it they will break down. Turbo engine will cost you a lot more in the long run. Toyota is well aware of this, trust me! Stick to Toyota
there has to be Some merit in a turbo. As you said Toyota is well aware of this, Then why did they stick a turbo 4 the Lexus NX line. If it wasn't reliable there's no point risking one of the hottest segments with unproven tech.
I agree on that. Turbo engine has less life in the long term and in time it will break down just like Hyundai technology. Eventhough Toyota has less power in specifications, but in terms of durability it has the advantage. But still I will spend my $$ for the Accord
According to Edmunds the Mazda 6 is about 130lbs heavier than the Accord. I like the Accord and Mazda 6 best in this class. I've driven the Accord 1.5T a few months back and the Mazda 6 2.5T yesterday, both felt great but would have to drive them (2.0T Accord) back to back to really compare NVH, steering, throttle, ride etc.
What other company offers an entry level family sedan with a manual? It had more driving dynamics than the Accord when I bought mine. 80k problem free miles so far.
Camry looks good! However I think the Accord takes it. The over all profile looks sweet. The only thing that has to grow on me is the tail lights on the accord.
Of course Honda fans will go for Honda and Toyota fans will go for Toyota. It's like being asked which team are you going for when your favorite team plays against another team, you already know the answer.
I don't. I got a 2015 Accord. And before this I had a 2012 Chevy Sonic. I kinda wish I got a smaller Lexus maybe. Accords kinds big since it's mostly just me and I don't think the acura looks as nice
Well.....I’ve had both Toyota and Honda Honda’s always been better for me ......and Honda’s have been the same way for years Toyota just died off an made whatever an never gave us another affordable sporty sedan......I loved my Lexus is350 ......but my 2.4 civic si was faster .....not as nice an comfortable but my alternator on my Lexus went out at 65k miles my si was a 2012 before I sold it last year had over 120k miles on it I commuted a lot w it not a single thing ever went wrong w it......he’ll I sold my Acura integra w 300k miles an only issue I ever had was a ignition switch went out.....my 2013 corolla everything was falling apart at 55k miles literally everything starter alternator water pump an it was babied
Smooth V-6 or a turbo'd to death 4. I wonder which will make it to 100,000 miles with the least problems? I've been a Honda guy since 1992, 4 Civic/CRX Si's, and 2 Accords with V-6's. I've never owned a Toyota, but it has a V-6 and looks better. It's looking like a new Avalon, basically a stretched and loaded Camry, is in the near future.
For someone who's owned so many Hondas you still wonder about their cars getting 100k miles? It's a tiny turbo that isn't pushing hard on the engine. It'll last no problem.
20.8 psi is not lightly turbocharged. 5-8 is light. Even if it's a closed deck 20.8psi is still high, and making 100,000 poses a real challenge. Let's face it, the average automobile purchaser has no idea what a turbo is and even less of an idea when it comes to maintenance. I would NOT want to purchase a used Accord 5 yrs down the road. That engine might be ready for the junkyard. Plus, at that boost level it isn't as powerful as the outgoing V-6 at sea level. The only real advantage the new Accord has in daily driving is in its interior. I admit it's quite nice and probably better than the Camry. At my age all I want in my daily driver is smooth, quiet competence with a bit of power. Hondas have never been particularly quiet or smooth but I've lived with them due to the spirited driving experience my old Hondas provided. It's the one real Achilles heel of daily driving any Honda. Having said that, I have muscle cars that provide all the excitement I need and I just want quiet competence, so, the Avalon is a strong possibility as my next daily driver.
The 2.0 is 20.8, the Type R, with a larger turbo is rated at 23.2. Those are very easy number to look up. And no, they won't be running at that level all of the time. The Accord, however will probably see 14-18psi regularly and that puts a strain on everything, especially at a 9.8:1 compression ratio. As I mentioned earlier, I'd take a smooth, relatively relaxed large displacement V-6 than a turbo small displacement anything pulling a relatively heavy car around.
Great comparison, I'll choose the Camry V6 with top safety smooth ride and unique design, for me- Honda interior looks like copy from BMW, exterior looks some chevy sedan,.. and excessive chrome front and back..
Camry and Accord are both equally realiable, dependent and just amazing. They have some of the best reputations in the car business. Currently have a '04 Camry that has 160k miles and an '07 Accord with 270k miles. Can't really pick a favorite as they both are good. Just a matter of preference.
They'll never do it.... The Accord already used a de-tuned version of the Civic Type R engine, if it was any faster it'd cut into the Type R sales... ☹️ At least the Euro R exists, and the old V6 Accords are plenty fast
@@turbodarkle Isn't that basically what the Acura Integra is? I also think they've made an older Accord Type R in the Japanese market. America just hasn't gotten it!
I got the Honda accord you get so much for you money it can drive it self and stop steer perfect the lane departure keeps the car on the road in the line so perfect it drives it self, i get 51.5MPG all the time when Echo is on
No apple car play on the Toyota yet? Deal breaker there. Knock turbo if you choose but with a 600 doller tuner plugged into the port the accord really jumps ahead .
In my opinion both Honda and Toyota make absolutely great vehicles but I would take the Camry with the engine that isn't boosted. I know Turbos add lots of power BUT I think normally aspirated engines will tend to last longer. I am sure Honda builds good turbo engines but turbo engines need to run at idle before shut down to help cool the bearings. In the video it does not say what the boost is for the Honda but we can assume about 10 psi of boost which is mild i guess but normally aspirated engines last longer. Also in the video you guys mention Ford Fusion...well thankfully Ford doesn't build cars anymore...Ford builds shit and good riddance. I would argue that Toyota and Honda may well be the two greatest auto makers on the planet. My god they beat the Americans and The Germans to hell. I tip my hat off to the Japanese...they have set the bar so high. BTW...I am a huge fan of Toyota.
I agreed except the Honda screwed up with the turbo. I had both Camry and Accord. The difference was I didn't have to slow down in a corner when I drove the Hand.
Yah keep thinking that. When your turbo dies because it will, have fun with that expensive repair. Meanwhile our NA engines will keep on chugging along.
i spy NFC connection spot on the accord trim dash, sleek, clever. Simply touch your phone to it with NFC on and boom, its all good to go. No menu fumbling.
Love the fact that the Honda comes in a manual, but the V6 is a deal breaker for me, I think it's dumb that Honda dropped it, I don't care how good the four cylinder is, there's no replacement for displacement, and the V6 got just as good gas mileage as the 4 cylinder, it sucks that if I want a V6 now I have to get an Acura, which is even more expensive, Honda dropped the ball, thumbs up to Toyota for keeping the V6, plus if the consumer doesn't know, turbo's don't save gas th-cam.com/video/P8UNwd4OLXI/w-d-xo.html
Haven’t driven the Accord yet, but I have driven a top of the line Camry XSE V6 and I must say, I was very impressed. Felt way smoother to drive than my Lexus IS. Also felt more premium, then again my IS is from 2014. I’ve sat in the new Accord several times and I must say I prefer the interior of the Accord over the Camry. Only thing I wished the Accord offered was a panoramic moonroof.
You guys are Awesome! I love all your channels. When Nathan was doing the 0-60, I saw he didn't have the Accord in Sport mode during the test. When in Sport mode, it bumps up performance and displays the boost pressure on the tachometer. I believe it would have gone faster.
Not buying it doesn't mean it's worse. If you prefer a manumatic meaning you want an auto, but still prefer to take control, Then Just go all out and buy the trans that gives you 100% control from the start, No need to go against a computer preemptively downshifting and not holding revs. I've drive a manual daily, in heavy traffic. With most japanese manufactures moving to featherlight clutches Its almost never tiring, and traffic is not an issue at all.
I watched this video two weeks ago and have been wanting to leave a comment. Honda makes a great product. So does Toyota. You guys slipped up on information when you stated the test took place at a high altitude. That will always give the turbo an advantage. One thing I don't like about the Toyota produce is the lack of Apple/Druid Car Play. I don't understand why that is not standard on every car on the road. Back to performance. At the lower altitudes the v6 in the Camry would perform much better. At 2:45 seconds it is revealed you are over 1 mile high. Thats a huge disadvantage and I don't consider that a fair test.
I personally ended up with the accord. I don’t know how the turbo engine will last, but it’s a lease car, not my problem. Once the lease is up I’m hoping for a Charger Scat Pack or Challenger Scat pack. But for now, the 4 cylinder helps offset the mileage of my truck especially with the terrible California gas prices.
If you're getting a Fiat-Chrysler product, I would definitely lease it, that way you can enjoy the car, but get it out of your possession before things start breaking on it. Let that be someone else's headache. The Dodges may be fun cars, but they're not the best if you plan on keeping it for 10 years.
I'll go with the Camry any day over accord. Also as far as that race on faster car then how about a real race like which car will get 250,000 miles first wins.
I just bought the new accord touring 2.0T yesterday after tested driving the Nissan Maxima SR and the Toyota Camry. The accord gave me a feeling that I could not find in the camry or the maxima and that's the future. It's like sitting in a Tesla. The drive feels sportier than in the camry. I love the memory seat and the Apple Car Play. For the same price if not higher, the Camry's interior does not win me over. I got $5000 off MSRP and low APR financing compared to $2000 off MSRP from Toyota. Toyota is good for older people than the young one. It makes you feel like you're sleeping in your bed while driving. I do not care about the horspower and the speed because I'm going 65 miles on freeway and 40 in the city anyways. If I want to show off I can take my mustang GT out on the weekend. For a family sedan, gas saver is my top priority and the accord is the best choice. With 2.0L engine the turbo charged gives it enough power to hit that 60 spot in under 7 seconds.
Still own a 2000 Accord V6 with original engine and transmission and over 300,000 miles. My in-laws has a newer Camry V6 with an engine blown up with just over 200,000 miles
Shifts idk if I believe this vid, because I have a 2018 white V6 xse Camry and I smoke the 2018 turbo Honda. I’ve heated multiple V6 as well. CAMRY ALL THE WAY!
This was a disadvantage for the Camry because it's tested 1 miles above sea level and the turbo will go faster. However, if this tested were conducted on sea level it will be up to the drivers.
Both of these cars are amazing!! I test drove both and picked the accord because of price and I enjoyed how it drove, but I prefer the style of the camry. You can't go wrong with either one
Thanks for watching! We also put both of these cars on the Dyno to get real world results. You can watch that video here: th-cam.com/video/e7eK3itH6KI/w-d-xo.html
The Fast Lane Car is awesome
The Fast Lane Car hi
Great one Folks. Please do a mid size sedan battle including mazda 6 turbo and the optima turbo. Thanks. Great job
You guys are top class. I cant wait until you get your hands on the new A6.
The Fast Lane Car Mazda 6 vs Accord
Honda interior is very very nice. Didn't know how fast it was.
My son and his wife looked at both, She liked the Camry, he liked the Accord. They have 3 kids all in car seats, and the 3 car seats fit both cars. For both of them, the trunk space was what made them buy the Accord. I've been in both cars, and I can't see anybody going wrong with either one, if its what you want.
In the end you can't really go wrong with either. In Colorado, the lack of AWD on both cars is a problem. That is why Subaru sells a ton of cars here even if the Legacy is an appliance compared to these two. Nissan adding an AWD option to the 2019 Altima is also a huge deal, especially with the Altima being #2 in sales nationally behind the Camry.
I'm betting Honda puts out an AWD Accord here soon. Their Acura TLX now comes in AWD and it's amazing, and it's basically the same car just with a nicer interior and better looks (That TLX A-Spec is so pretty!). Honda has had lots of AWD cars over the years... I'm certain it's coming. SH-AWD Accord would be a best seller.
But it does help with tire wear and handling. And driving an AWD in the snow up hill is a lot easier than a FWD or RWD... so I'd say it does help. The extra weight makes it bad for stopping though.
Actually, AWD does help in the snow, especially when combined with good tires. People who say things like "AWD doesn't help in snow" don't live in places like Colorado.
I wouldn't take my FWD thru a snowstorm in the Mountains, but I'd take a Subaru or SH-AWD vehicle. For the most part though, driving around here in the winter, FWD does the trick with the right tires.
My wife has the 2018 camry and I have the 2018 accord sport 2.0T 6mt the accord is way more fun to drive and very tourque I hate the accord taillights but the camry styling is better but accord has better tech and more fun to drive.
Jee Vang he literally stated that he has the 2.0T Sport... did you even watch the video? The accord 2.0T is a 10spd automatic, and Honda has consistently been more reliable than Toyota. Check yourself before you wreck yourself mate, Have a good day.
yeah on video Accord looks prettier but in real life I've seen both cars on the road, Camry looks way better than Accord irl and on the road. On the road Accord stylings looks like any other sedans like BMW or Lexus etc, but Camry looks so sporty, unique, sparkling and charming on the road.
Too bad the v6 will last longer than the turbo
Snowy my brother has the accord, i have the camry. His is a way more fun drive, but not sure where honda is more reliable. They have made a lot of weak transmissions. Not just CVT. I also like that Toyota has dual port and direct injection preventing carbon issues inherent in GDI. Honda has known oil dilution issues in the 1.5. Choir is out on 2.0
@@iPvpTiger check yourself? Have you ever even owned a camry before? Or have talked to people who've clocked 500+ thousand km's on their cars? If you want reliability stop wasting money on touch screens and electric comforts. The money you "saved" will only go toward broken sensors and electrical problems. Buy an older car instead?
I did my part to save the manuals with the 2018 Accord Sport 2.0T! Love this car...
You still got it?
@@jonmcclane7433 Yep. And still love it.
@@mgobluevictor definitely my next car, but probably gotta wait another year. I have a 2014 Sport with only 60k on it, but want the extra power and 6 speed.
@@jonmcclane7433 The 6MT was discontinued (2019 was the last model year for it, I believe), so if u need the manual, u will need to go for used.
@@mgobluevictor you’re right, I’ve done my homework, trust me
Finally the perfect video, well done guys! I own a Honda Accord 2018 and it’s so fun to drive. Super spacious too. Someone confused it with a Benz and I laughed 😂. But I love the look of the Camry too.
Wow that Honda is quick
im surprised
I doubt it. But keep smoking the pipe the Toyota dealer told you lol
When That v tec kicked in yo
guy proulx you might want to check C&D and Motortrend before you make that erroneous claim.
guy proulx yeah I think you are just making that up 😂 the 2018 accord is just extremely fast for an accord period.
Honestly I would pick the Accord, with the manual and the Civic Type R engine. The Accord's styling is starting to grow on me as well. Meanwhile the Camry is okay but just not my cup of tea, but at least it has a V6 option.
DETUNED engine. Different pistons, higher pressure fuel pump, cams, and turbo. Hondata would help with that but the limiting factor is fuel pump and a smaller turbo for the accord to make it somewhat of a type-r
Ziakel I know it's detuned, but I like to say it has a Type R engine anyways lol.
Having driven both cars back-to-back, I bought a 2018 Accord Touring the day they went on sale. The Camry is just missing way too much technology. No memory seats, no cooled seats, no Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, no over-the-air software updates...Toyota really porked it away big time with the Camry. Doesn't hurt that the Accord is less expensive, faster, and had a much more functional interior. Happy with my decision. I have yet to see any major car publications give the Camry a victory over the Accord in any comparison test. The Camry has always been a bit of a dud. This new one is the best yet, but Honda still outdid Toyota, yet again.
Matt Speer just like the Accord doesn't have a real audio system, 360 camera and a panoramic sunroof. The only options toyota needs is their CarPlay update and the memory seats which 2019 will likely add. I dont see how anyone can bare the audio system in the Accord.
Um...the audio system in the Accord Touring sounds significantly better than the joke "upgrade" JBL system in the higher end Camrys. Believe me, I tested that aspect out thoroughly as a good sound system is one of my primary concerns when buying a new vehicle. The one in the Camry was pretty bad. Very muddy sound.
Who needs a 360 deg camera in a family sedan that has great visibility out of it? If offered on the Accord, would I take it? Yes. But that's not an essential feature. Memory/cooled seats are way more important to me.
What makes you think Toyota will add memory seats in 2019? Typically major changes don't happen until the mid-cycle refresh, which won't happen until 2021 for the Camry. Even then, I can't see them adding memory seats. They "reserve" features like memory seats and cooled seats for the Avalon. Pretty dumb since most of the Camry's competitors offer that stuff now.
Matt Speer sorry bud but if you think the audio system in the touring accord is better than the JBL uiu have completely lost your mind. In fact hire just a flat out liar.... there are even TH-cam comments of owners that talk about how bad the Accord sound system is. There is know way you compared the two audio systems so you must work for Honda. The Accord doesn't even have name brand speakers and every other car brand has name brand speakers. Nice try...
Matt Speer I'll leave this here..
Enjoy the car no one wants and my local dealer has over 300 in stock and even my Honda salesman I've known for years says he hopes they redesign soon.
www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sc-auto-tips-honda-accord-not-selling-20180319-story.html
Wow, you really are ignorant about car sound systems if you think a name brand like JBL equals high quality sound, lol. You are probably a big fan of Bose systems, too. No I don't work for Honda. This is the first Honda I have owned since 2007 (was actually an Acura TSX). I have owned two Hyundais and one Genesis in the interim. I used to own a Camry in the early 2000s. I thoroughly test drove both the new Accord and new Camry twice, and the Accord was clearly superior. Why do you think it is that zero car magazines have given the Camry a win over the Accord in a comparison test? The best phrase comparing the two I've heard is: "Toyota built a better Camry. Honda built a better car." Pretty simple. But you are obviously a Toyota fan boy who can't handle someone sharing FACTS that paint the Camry in a negative light.
Test drove a 6 speed Honda Accord.......IT'S FANTASTIC!
It's still a slow car. A v6 motor will always out run you.
Lamon Lites your wrong asf 😂😂😂
@@lamonlites8338 literally every review shows you otherwise.
@@kalookakoo5 I understand you. But why is they running a V6 against a turbo engine. My opinion the V6 is stronger. The turbo do lage a bit and can go out. Me I just think the V6 is better. I'm not going to keep this up no more. I know that all other cars that has V6 are stronger. I have drove them all. But at that stand still a turbo got to wind up.I look at all the test runs against every car you have done and I think that Honda is not that fast. But if you think so.I believe it. But all cars motor are not the same and weight limit also. Just like what I see in the Mustang. I think that car is faster then most cars but it's to heavy. Both car are great. I just like the Carmy better. Have a nice day
Camry is for retired old folks....Toyota design this car for elder folks. Jeeez
I'd to the Honda, I love TOYOTA but I would buy this Accord in a heart beat!!! Looks very stylist, turbo, dynamics! Reminds me of a Audi
You can’t go wrong with either one !!
Camry XSE V6 black with red leather is amazing!
Mike Pearis agreed. I prefer a v6 for its refinement vs a turbo 4.
I traded in my 2016 accord for an 18 Camry. No regrets. I absolutely love this car. It drives so much more comfortably and feels just more refined than the accord. My Camry has the four-cylinder engine and I have no complaints about it especially the fuel mileage.
I have the same car. Its an SE. Its an amazing car. If you want it to go fast it really can take off.
I'm not on the turbo bandwagon yet I still love a natural aspirated V6
John Smith same and turbocharged engine don’t last as long like. A Toyota cAmra engine
Shhhhhhh am sure they won't tell u that lol but is true toyota always kill when it comes to reliability
Can't beat a 12 second family car tho.
If only they sold the camry as a rear wheel drive. That would make it miles better but probably cut in to there lexus sails
Not like them million mile tractor trailer turbo motors that don’t last. Grow up people .
I own the 18 sport with a1.5L turbo and it drives great! I get 37/38 mpg highway and it has a gear shifter! 78K miles and running great!!!
That trunk test y’all did is hilarious. You guys are great.
LSanti sneaking over the border...into the Ukraine. I about lost it! Lol
The review we have been waiting for all our lives
Mansour Anonimous right
That's the best thumbnail I've ever seen on TFL Car
Joseph _Gomes I agree
Joseph _Gomes but it’s still not correct cause both of the accords engines are turbo charged
Joseph _Gomes LOL i didn't notice it.
Both in my opinion are great cars. I'm a big fan of Toyota and Honda
Both are boring as hell.
Nathaniel Rudolph And neither of us asked for your opinion
Perk Here still boring and bland
Ok so I own a 2018 camry v6 and I noticed that its slow to take off when you first flore it, while the engine is cold. However, when the engine is completely wormed up, man the car flies. I mean its like it doesn't even know what to do with all that power. Its crazy fast.
I can imagine. I have an XSE with the 4 banger....that thing ain't no slouch.
V6 Camrys are insanely fast.
I just purchased the Accord Touring 2.0T. It’s brilliant!
I love my accord 2.0T 2019
Do either of you still have it?
@@hutzman7664no, sold it a few years ago
You have to remember... Honda doesn't sell to fleets, no taxi and no rental company, however Toyota does
Mr. Ash which doesn't make up most of their sales.
Mr. Ash well thats stupid, is that Toyota fault
That's bullshit. I work at a hotel in Waikiki. There are lots of Honda Accords, Civics, and HRV's parked in our guest parking. Why do Honda fanboys make up this crap?
The accord, Camry and sonata are use for taxi all over New York city
jgijoe and I work for a Honda Dealership in Arizona. They don’t make up this crap. It’s true. Why do toyota fan boys make up THIS crap? Don’t believe me? Look at resale values of any Honda vs Toyota. Trim to trim in the used market right now ?
A Honda Accord Type R with a manual would be amazing! Love that Honda still sticks with the manual. One if the best manuals to drive too!
3:00 is what most of us are here for tbh... I think your the only channel to do this with the two cars.
I own a 2018 Accord 2.0 turbo
..... 6 speed manual..... :))
Love it :)
of course the Camry sell more, just think about all the cabs fleet in NY, LA, or SF....most likely Camry
Pislui Honda is struggling to move the accords right now. It's to point where they have to lower the price on them. I use to love the accord but now it looks like a fake Audi A7.
Pislui they chose them for low maintenance and reliability. I think that's a compliment. Only people that don't work for a living see that as a negative. Good to see working small business people buying the best for their business. Both are great cars, but at his is the first Turbo Accord. People are waiting how reliable it turns out.
If you don't count fleet sales the accord does sell more than the Camry. Also the main reason the Camry is still selling well and the accord isn't is because of dealer and lease incentives. If you take equally equipped camrys and accords the Camry can be leased for 219 a month with 1999 due at signing where the accord is 249 a month with 3999 due at signing. It's Toyota that's lowering the price to move cars, Honda isn't so sales are slowing. Honda has openly admitted this and says they are fine with it.
TurboNFRStwoK / that's the excuse Honda has been using for years. In fact, since 1990, when someone out sells them.The Accord is an amazing car, and anyone that buys one will be getting a great car, but not a great deal in pricing. The Honda Dealership network has been complaining for months for incentives, the car is priced out of the Market. There's strong competition in that category. The Toyota Camry is an amazing car. The Dealership network is very happy with the car. There's customers are getting a good car for a great price. To downplay the Camry is a mistake. It's a great car.
TurboNFRStwoK / again, those are called incentives. Second, Honda has lots of left over 2017's, especially in Los Angeles, the real reason that don't have specials on the new one, is because they gave away the 2017's, and still need to sell the left overs. You are reading Honda's press release. The fleet sales the Camry has to date is not as high as you think. The Camry can easily hold its own against the Accord, it's just they know what the going rate on what the free market will pay for one. Honda is selling tons of CRV's, and current market will pay full price on the CRV, not the Accord. Toyota recognizes that the mid size market is soft, but they don't want to give up on it. The have the RAV4 for what the market demands. They know that with the way things are, you can't get top dollar for a midsize sedan. Honda says they're fine with it, but not their dealerships. Don't read press releases, go out in the market. Talk to people in the field. Look up the trade magazines on line, ( not the meaningless advertising Road and track, Car and Driver), and you'll get a better understanding of the Automarket. Nissan's Altima is improved, and will be priced aggressively. Toyota is trying to get all the sales they can to get word of mouth, expose the car to enough people to have a successful 2019. If Honda doesn't change strategy, they are going to lose midsize sedan share next year. Mazda stepped up too. It's not just the Camry to worry about.
Your content & editing keeps getting better and better; as time goes by.
Thanks, we’re really trying to get better
Yeah they hirer a editor no shit
At altitude turbocharged engines almost always win. Long term reliability for the Camry V6 should be better.
10tenman10 wait that doesnt make sense. The higher the altitude, the denser the air, the denser the air, the less oxygen for the motor. So how does that have any effect on the accord vs the Camry. (I agree with the V6 being more reliable though)
Because the turbocharger maintains the same performance as lower altitudes because it uses exhaust gases to operate. Whereas the Camry's naturally aspirated engine has to rely all on the air.
And no, the higher the altitude, the thinner the air. If the air is denser then it means there's more oxygen.
Matte Exactly! People need to drive their cars up here at altitude to fully understand.
Not that it was a better car, but my Cobalt SS Turbocharged was faster in a quarter mile than my buddies Mustang GT.
wrong. The density of air decreases with height. There are two reasons: at higher altitudes, there is less air pushing down from above, and gravity is weaker farther from Earth's center. So at higher altitudes, air molecules can spread out more, and air density decreases
I like the fact that Camry has wider seats - I think that's better than having a wider centre console for long term comfort.
Honda Accord looks better hands down. Toyotas are reliable but they look and feel cheap. Hondas are just as reliable if not a lil bit more and they give you a lot for your money so I’ll go with the Honda Accord.
In the middle east, the camry v6 goes from 0-60 in less than 6 seconds! That damn mile above sea level~ ._.
Rabea almahmoudi i don’t think it was a fair enough test considering turbo engines do better a mile above sea level
The Saurus IKR!!
It's very much fair. There's a lot of people that live at elevation and goes to show how important a real world test is, rather than number fudging that goes with magazine reviews (hint: they don't get the numbers they quote - it's computationally adjusted to SAE testing standards)
oldtwins na of course, we respect the effort and trust the results. I'm just stating that it could be different
Rabea almahmoudi you're absolutely correct
The perfect team to review vehicles.
Both amazing family cars. I'd chose the Camry, not because its better, but its best for me. Can't go wrong with either one.
Yeah, I got back issues and camry feels much better in that regard the ride is so smooth and quiet.
I drive 2015 Accord and I can’t believe how fast it is with such a small engine. It defies logic in a good way!
I have a chevy impala which i love. The impala is so underrated. For this comparison, i prefer the accord. I love the look and features.
I love the Camry I’d rather buy that but I’ll never understand why Honda doesn’t use a premium audio like Toyota Honda’s stereo will never be nearly as good as what’s in the Camry
You have room for a 3k sound system on the Accord... LOL 😆
I hate the Honda speakers I think Camry is better
yes!! honda stereo speakers are trash!!
They both are great cars. Can't go wrong with either one.
Imagine, Accord Front end, Camry Rear end, Turbo V6.......😍😍
A 3 liter 300 hp 300 ft-lbs VR30DDTT anyone. A used Q50 3.0T may float your boat.
So... Kia Stinger?
@@turbodarkle So Q50 Redsport
@@mr.casanova7145 it's nice, but it's about $15,000 more than a Stinger GT
@@turbodarkle yeah i know
The only problem for infiniti here in my countriy Saudi Arabia is the dealer each 2 years new dealer take the brand
But kia and hundai dealer is good
i brought the 2018 red honda touring that came with sport black factory rims and i never look back to camry ever again :)
The only reason why Camry sold more was because Toyota had better incentives, and it had also been out for longer so dealerships could offer better incentives. Otherwise enthusiasts were pretty unanimous in saying that the Accord was better.
The rear end of the Accord looks funny
S thats what im sayong its stupid dumb looking👎👎😒
They rear lights look like two lobster claws to me.
I don't like the rear end I think future redesign will go back to the old design for sure.
@@sengyang6780 No I definitely don't think they will be going back to old design but refining the current one
fkn ugly is what it looks like... lol
Honda Accord 🔥
Jeniel Motoring ur mom
buzman1985 your aunt
Jeniel Motoring eww i love the camry sport iss the fastes
Ugly! Accord. My 2015 is much better
@@KingLouOG looks better yes runs better no
Great work, you guys! I think this is the best TFL video in a while. Keep it up! Difficult choice. I like the 6-cylinder and the panoramic sunroof in the Camry. I like the Camry from every angle, but the front end kills it for me. I am actually surprised at how much I like the styling of the Accord, considering I normally don't like chrome and the personification of cars (i.e., unibrow). I also love the wheels on the Accord. And the interior of the Accord, with its simple lines, is a winner in my book. However, I don't like the button shifter. It seems gimmicky since it takes as much space as a traditional shifter would. Overall, though, I would pick the Accord.
Thanks for the kind words!
Camry XSE V6 FTW. It's Camry Thrill Ride all day. Hate prop rods and stuck on screens.
Just bought my wife a 2020 Accord sport with a 6 speed manual. Definitely a fun car to drive around. I can’t believe people are arguing about “reliability” they’re both super reliable. Buy the one you like, my wife with only buy a manual so the Accord was for us.
Rear end on the accord looks off
i think it's the ratio of the exhuast is too small
I think so it looks like a cross tour.
Both reliable cars, both good looking. I'll stick with the honda.
I’m good with my 14 Accord. I want the Accord wheels for my car.
I went and test drove the Accord sport yesterday.. i like so many was a little iffy about the design, but seeing it in person and driving it totally changed my mind! The 2.0 is quick enough for any normal person. I'm 6'2" and sitting behind myself i still had about 4-6 inches of leg room and my head barely touched the roof. The trunk is HUGE! If you don't like the looks i get that, but the rest of the car is on point. These cars are both really nice, i have yet to drive the Toyota, but the inside of the Accord pretty much seals it for me. I don't think you can go wrong either way, it's just going to come down to which one looks better to you.
Having had the 2016 Camry for almost 3 years I gotta say, I’ve been disappointed with the finish and quality of the vehicle. Looking at the latest Accords, it seems like more attention goes to the actually quality and design of their vehicle than on the Camry. They just look so much better.
@Joe. Accord's are very nice but if you're tall the rear seats lack headroom. Not very comfortable at all for tall people.
Stay away from turbo if you are a cost-conscious consumer, doesn't matter who makes it they will break down. Turbo engine will cost you a lot more in the long run. Toyota is well aware of this, trust me! Stick to Toyota
there has to be Some merit in a turbo. As you said Toyota is well aware of this, Then why did they stick a turbo 4 the Lexus NX line. If it wasn't reliable there's no point risking one of the hottest segments with unproven tech.
I agree on that. Turbo engine has less life in the long term and in time it will break down just like Hyundai technology. Eventhough Toyota has less power in specifications, but in terms of durability it has the advantage. But still I will spend my $$ for the Accord
Definitely the most entertaining review of these two cars I've seen. Great job, you guys :D
Would like to see how these stack up against the new Mazda6 turbo. Keep the good work up TFL!
Shawn Bremer me too I think the Mazda would win. It's probably lighter than the Accord and Camry
mazda is actually slower than both
According to Edmunds the Mazda 6 is about 130lbs heavier than the Accord. I like the Accord and Mazda 6 best in this class. I've driven the Accord 1.5T a few months back and the Mazda 6 2.5T yesterday, both felt great but would have to drive them (2.0T Accord) back to back to really compare NVH, steering, throttle, ride etc.
What other company offers an entry level family sedan with a manual? It had more driving dynamics than the Accord when I bought mine. 80k problem free miles so far.
Mazda6 is available with a 2.5L N/A engine and a 6sp manual
Camry looks good! However I think the Accord takes it. The over all profile looks sweet. The only thing that has to grow on me is the tail lights on the accord.
V6 all day. Its not even a purist thing, its just more reliable and long term, more value for money
You can't pick your favorite when you own both brands and love them both :(
accord for me
Accord for M.E
Me too
Of course Honda fans will go for Honda and Toyota fans will go for Toyota. It's like being asked which team are you going for when your favorite team plays against another team, you already know the answer.
I don't. I got a 2015 Accord. And before this I had a 2012 Chevy Sonic. I kinda wish I got a smaller Lexus maybe. Accords kinds big since it's mostly just me and I don't think the acura looks as nice
Well.....I’ve had both Toyota and Honda Honda’s always been better for me ......and Honda’s have been the same way for years Toyota just died off an made whatever an never gave us another affordable sporty sedan......I loved my Lexus is350 ......but my 2.4 civic si was faster .....not as nice an comfortable but my alternator on my Lexus went out at 65k miles my si was a 2012 before I sold it last year had over 120k miles on it I commuted a lot w it not a single thing ever went wrong w it......he’ll I sold my Acura integra w 300k miles an only issue I ever had was a ignition switch went out.....my 2013 corolla everything was falling apart at 55k miles literally everything starter alternator water pump an it was babied
The Accord styling will hold up better over time. The Camry does have a great rear end though.
I have the exact same accord and it is definitely a superior car at this price point. Ultra smooth Honda 10 speed transmission.
Smooth V-6 or a turbo'd to death 4. I wonder which will make it to 100,000 miles with the least problems? I've been a Honda guy since 1992, 4 Civic/CRX Si's, and 2 Accords with V-6's. I've never owned a Toyota, but it has a V-6 and looks better. It's looking like a new Avalon, basically a stretched and loaded Camry, is in the near future.
Robert D.
I love honda to and currently own a 2014 touring but i might get a used 18 xse or just get a 17 touring.
For someone who's owned so many Hondas you still wonder about their cars getting 100k miles? It's a tiny turbo that isn't pushing hard on the engine. It'll last no problem.
20.8 psi is not lightly turbocharged. 5-8 is light. Even if it's a closed deck 20.8psi is still high, and making 100,000 poses a real challenge. Let's face it, the average automobile purchaser has no idea what a turbo is and even less of an idea when it comes to maintenance. I would NOT want to purchase a used Accord 5 yrs down the road. That engine might be ready for the junkyard.
Plus, at that boost level it isn't as powerful as the outgoing V-6 at sea level.
The only real advantage the new Accord has in daily driving is in its interior. I admit it's quite nice and probably better than the Camry. At my age all I want in my daily driver is smooth, quiet competence with a bit of power. Hondas have never been particularly quiet or smooth but I've lived with them due to the spirited driving experience my old Hondas provided. It's the one real Achilles heel of daily driving any Honda. Having said that, I have muscle cars that provide all the excitement I need and I just want quiet competence, so, the Avalon is a strong possibility as my next daily driver.
Where did you get that the turbo is tuned to be 20.8? The max the turbo can go to is 20.8. It's a type R motor that has been tuned down.
The 2.0 is 20.8, the Type R, with a larger turbo is rated at 23.2. Those are very easy number to look up. And no, they won't be running at that level all of the time. The Accord, however will probably see 14-18psi regularly and that puts a strain on everything, especially at a 9.8:1 compression ratio. As I mentioned earlier, I'd take a smooth, relatively relaxed large displacement V-6 than a turbo small displacement anything pulling a relatively heavy car around.
Great comparison, I'll choose the Camry V6 with top safety smooth ride and unique design,
for me- Honda interior looks like copy from BMW, exterior looks some chevy sedan,..
and excessive chrome front and back..
Both are beautiful. I'd have to go with the Accord tho. I just love how there is no shifter in the way at all. Clean af.
Camry and Accord are both equally realiable, dependent and just amazing. They have some of the best reputations in the car business. Currently have a '04 Camry that has 160k miles and an '07 Accord with 270k miles. Can't really pick a favorite as they both are good. Just a matter of preference.
i been saying it for years accord type r needs to be made!
They'll never do it.... The Accord already used a de-tuned version of the Civic Type R engine, if it was any faster it'd cut into the Type R sales... ☹️ At least the Euro R exists, and the old V6 Accords are plenty fast
@@turbodarkle Isn't that basically what the Acura Integra is? I also think they've made an older Accord Type R in the Japanese market. America just hasn't gotten it!
Wife drives 17 Highlander with 8 speed. Not a big fan of the transmission. Wonder if the Camry feels the same.
The new Camry looks very slick and sharp.
Getting my Accord 2.0 Touring in 4 more months! 🙌🏽🙌🏽
2 months to go
Dante E did you get it?
Just bought the accord 2.0t..... I love it
I got the Honda accord you get so much for you money it can drive it self and stop steer perfect the lane departure keeps the car on the road in the line so perfect it drives it self, i get 51.5MPG all the time when Echo is on
andy roswell 1.5t?
No apple car play on the Toyota yet? Deal breaker there. Knock turbo if you choose but with a 600 doller tuner plugged into the port the accord really jumps ahead .
@@gregblack8550 I don't want apple anything so that sounds good to me.
In my opinion both Honda and Toyota make absolutely great vehicles but I would take the Camry with the engine that isn't boosted. I know Turbos add lots of power BUT I think normally aspirated engines will tend to last longer. I am sure Honda builds good turbo engines but turbo engines need to run at idle before shut down to help cool the bearings. In the video it does not say what the boost is for the Honda but we can assume about 10 psi of boost which is mild i guess but normally aspirated engines last longer. Also in the video you guys mention Ford Fusion...well thankfully Ford doesn't build cars anymore...Ford builds shit and good riddance. I would argue that Toyota and Honda may well be the two greatest auto makers on the planet. My god they beat the Americans and The Germans to hell. I tip my hat off to the Japanese...they have set the bar so high. BTW...I am a huge fan of Toyota.
I have one of the new turbo hondas and no, you don't have to idle to cool down the turbo after normal driving.
I agreed except the Honda screwed up with the turbo. I had both Camry and Accord. The difference was I didn't have to slow down in a corner when I drove the Hand.
Why would you own both a new camry and accord? the accord is lighter and every major auto mag review says it handles better.
Yah keep thinking that. When your turbo dies because it will, have fun with that expensive repair. Meanwhile our NA engines will keep on chugging along.
I would prefer a Maxima but a Jatco cvt? Fugetaboutit. Would prefer an accord 6M but turbo makes that a non starter. Make mine a Camry. NA all day.
The T Camry is smooth to drive than the H Accord. That's why Camry is so populaire. I drove a.T Camry 96 that car was smooth and had a good engine
Accord and Tesla: Am i joke to you?
I prefer the 2017 Accord because the rear of the 2018 model doesn't look as good
If Roman did a review on the 2018 Honda Accord, he’d be really happy that there are volume and tuning knobs
i spy NFC connection spot on the accord trim dash, sleek, clever. Simply touch your phone to it with NFC on and boom, its all good to go. No menu fumbling.
accord is killing it!
Save the manual ♥
Manuals are DEAD
PLATINUM Yeah and we need to do something to bring em back.
I have a Focus ST so I'm doing my part
@BlikBrik 😷
@BlikBrik they are dead. Audi just stopped putting them in the R8 all together😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the fact that the Honda comes in a manual, but the V6 is a deal breaker for me, I think it's dumb that Honda dropped it, I don't care how good the four cylinder is, there's no replacement for displacement, and the V6 got just as good gas mileage as the 4 cylinder, it sucks that if I want a V6 now I have to get an Acura, which is even more expensive, Honda dropped the ball, thumbs up to Toyota for keeping the V6, plus if the consumer doesn't know, turbo's don't save gas th-cam.com/video/P8UNwd4OLXI/w-d-xo.html
Haven’t driven the Accord yet, but I have driven a top of the line Camry XSE V6 and I must say, I was very impressed. Felt way smoother to drive than my Lexus IS. Also felt more premium, then again my IS is from 2014. I’ve sat in the new Accord several times and I must say I prefer the interior of the Accord over the Camry. Only thing I wished the Accord offered was a panoramic moonroof.
You guys are Awesome! I love all your channels. When Nathan was doing the 0-60, I saw he didn't have the Accord in Sport mode during the test. When in Sport mode, it bumps up performance and displays the boost pressure on the tachometer. I believe it would have gone faster.
5:06 Camry v6 won omg that sound was amazing for being stock
mikeligit what
Holy moly
This channel is growing so fast
Toyota Camry is the best
u said it bro
Rafael Smith best vehicle for retired folks, yes!
Lol no they are both good but the accord is better
@@h1tman-640 thanks for bringing me back here, its been 2 years btw xd
XxTechi xD
Good video guys and I recently purchased an Accord Sport 2.0T - love it!
Camry is amazing in exterior styling but the accord has amazing features and luxury experience with more space
I was gonna get the accord but I like having a good transmission that lasts long.
The 6 speed manual solves that 👍
@@GyroPyro121212 Not everyone wants a manual transmission in a family sedan. In fact I'm guessing most won't so that's not a good counter lol.
Pete TheHawk It’s a shame.
john dferfr that’s when you get a manual.
Well so far their new 10 speed has been reliable. Car and Driver long term tester did fine. Can't say that about the 9 speed when it first came out.
Love my 18 Camry. Manumatic > CVT
Manual > Manumatic
So which Company has a sterling reputation with horrid transmissions? Auto or Manual? Honda!! LOL
skifree no one buys manuals
Un Carrier T-Mobile USA Honda is the only company here that has had both engine and transmission failure in the past....
Not buying it doesn't mean it's worse. If you prefer a manumatic meaning you want an auto, but still prefer to take control, Then Just go all out and buy the trans that gives you 100% control from the start, No need to go against a computer preemptively downshifting and not holding revs.
I've drive a manual daily, in heavy traffic. With most japanese manufactures moving to featherlight clutches Its almost never tiring, and traffic is not an issue at all.
The gearing is terrible in the camry, after first gear it bogs really bad.
I watched this video two weeks ago and have been wanting to leave a comment. Honda makes a great product. So does Toyota. You guys slipped up on information when you stated the test took place at a high altitude. That will always give the turbo an advantage. One thing I don't like about the Toyota produce is the lack of Apple/Druid Car Play. I don't understand why that is not standard on every car on the road. Back to performance. At the lower altitudes the v6 in the Camry would perform much better. At 2:45 seconds it is revealed you are over 1 mile high. Thats a huge disadvantage and I don't consider that a fair test.
I personally ended up with the accord. I don’t know how the turbo engine will last, but it’s a lease car, not my problem. Once the lease is up I’m hoping for a Charger Scat Pack or Challenger Scat pack. But for now, the 4 cylinder helps offset the mileage of my truck especially with the terrible California gas prices.
If you're getting a Fiat-Chrysler product, I would definitely lease it, that way you can enjoy the car, but get it out of your possession before things start breaking on it. Let that be someone else's headache. The Dodges may be fun cars, but they're not the best if you plan on keeping it for 10 years.
Accord wins
I've been searching for accord 2.0 vs Camry v6 for a long time.
Thank you for making this video
I really did enjoyed this comparison. Thank you guys!
You are most welcome!
The Fast Lane Car you guys are bias latino fellow said that he was flew out by Honda in his last video?Lol
jgijoe dude! Most of all this reviewer's always get invited to review cars by manufacturers.
I'll go with the Camry any day over accord. Also as far as that race on faster car then how about a real race like which car will get 250,000 miles first wins.
I just bought the new accord touring 2.0T yesterday after tested driving the Nissan Maxima SR and the Toyota Camry. The accord gave me a feeling that I could not find in the camry or the maxima and that's the future. It's like sitting in a Tesla. The drive feels sportier than in the camry. I love the memory seat and the Apple Car Play. For the same price if not higher, the Camry's interior does not win me over. I got $5000 off MSRP and low APR financing compared to $2000 off MSRP from Toyota. Toyota is good for older people than the young one. It makes you feel like you're sleeping in your bed while driving. I do not care about the horspower and the speed because I'm going 65 miles on freeway and 40 in the city anyways. If I want to show off I can take my mustang GT out on the weekend. For a family sedan, gas saver is my top priority and the accord is the best choice. With 2.0L engine the turbo charged gives it enough power to hit that 60 spot in under 7 seconds.
Still own a 2000 Accord V6 with original engine and transmission and over 300,000 miles.
My in-laws has a newer Camry V6 with an engine blown up with just over 200,000 miles
khmereissrak which year Camry is it?
Yes. The 80s intro is awesome.
I dig the Honda styling.
That Accord takes off like a rocket! Wow....the engine sounds great too.
I love the new 2018 Toyota Camry xse my brother has one and it is sooo fast and I love it sooo much
Shifts idk if I believe this vid, because I have a 2018 white V6 xse Camry and I smoke the 2018 turbo Honda. I’ve heated multiple V6 as well. CAMRY ALL THE WAY!
TGE7-ANTHONY Accord faster
This was a disadvantage for the Camry because it's tested 1 miles above sea level and the turbo will go faster. However, if this tested were conducted on sea level it will be up to the drivers.
@@tousshong9438 You think the Accord is gonna remain the same at sea level? It's gonna be even faster.
@@tousshong9438 a lot of tests have been done, the accord is faster...
Both of these cars are amazing!! I test drove both and picked the accord because of price and I enjoyed how it drove, but I prefer the style of the camry. You can't go wrong with either one