Don't understand it either. Almost every dude does what he does. not necessarily to make fun of her, but more to make fun of yourself. He even said he's half a virgin, so how could he be making fun of her She's not in the right at all. Not saying he is either. He seems like a douche, sure.
@@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII he wasn’t making self deprecating humor in his stand up, it was all making fun of her and sharing intimate details that would only be okay to share if he asked her first and didn’t go out of his way to hide it from her
Ghosted sounds really Invasive. Imagine just leaving someone creepy and then they track u dowm using some randos find u and force u to talk to them. Like, WHAT THE FUCK. who thought this was a good idea!?!?!
@@emilyb.8219I feel like her hooking up is a personal decision. She's an adult. She can say no. ......but the email thing was definitely an inavasion of privacy.
This seems very much like repeat trauma against her. Yikes. She had issues with her father, got her boundaries and autonomy disrespected by this dude, and then was forced to sit down and talk about it all with random people for a show in a way that didn't respect her again. I know she had to agree to be on there, ultimately, but this is messed up.
@@mojavecourier6987 well it sounds like she was ignoring the show people for awhile to the point they started contacting people in her life, so she probably felt the only way to get the show to stop harassing her was to go along with it.
Can't believe people nowadays still think shows like this are real. I mean common, the video of the stand up show? That was so obviously fake and she was filming from like the second row, like he wouldn't see her lol
I love how they just gloss over the fact that in his stand-up, he basically implies that she's like, a practice girlfriend to learn sex stuff from. Talking about how now he's going to go to PTA meetings to pick up the women he -really- wants. That's the MOST disrespectful part of the routine and they don't even touch it.
They all must have forgotten about the script at that point. Maybe this story is real or completely staged or somewhere in between. This is 'reality' TV after all.
They dated for 6 months. I do not think time is the perfect indicator on the strength of the relationship. But still, how can you hold a flame for some one you have not seen longer than you were actually together?
So the guy who runs "Tinderella" gives out client info freely and therefore absolutely can not be trusted even beyond the lack of trust he should already have as a guy that runs something called "Tinderella". Thats the point of that first bit yeah?
Also hooking up with her afterwards like shouldn’t you be more professional than that? Hosting a dating show and hooking up with contestants is inappropriate and a bad look for you
I could cry when looking at my like dislike ratio. I have so many jealous people that my videos always get way more dislikes than likes. Please don't be jealous, dear jim
Ok but that’s so rude. She’s just trying to live her life and they’re making a whole episode exposing who she slept with, a bunch of personal things, etc.
"This guy making jokes and revealing my personal info and talking about my sex life really bothered me so I ghosted him!" "Wow, you know what would be great? If all of this was revealed on actual television :D"
I’m like 90% it’s mostly, if not entirely staged. It’d be way less work to stage everything than it would be to get waivers for everything and everyone involved as well as getting everyone on board with it.
This dude is literally a red flag. He couldn't accept that she picked another dude, he managed to get her email without her knowledge and he's basically stalking her.
That poor, poor girl. She was stalked, belittled, and harassed, and he has the audacity to try and play the victim?? God, I'd be scarred forever, I just hope she's able to live some semblance of a normal life now with real, genuine people who actually treat her like she has feelings
Dating women is already a good start lol. Obviously not that LGBTQ people can't be toxic or nasty but it's soooooooooooo much less likely than if you're dating a cishet dude.
@Nirio he was making fun of the fact that she doesn’t know her dad and he was broadcasting their personal life to strangers. that’s not him having fun.
@@katam7299 “broadcasting her personal life” look up josh wolf or any comedian with a kid that’s what they do dipshit I mean it’s kinda shitty but it makes for good comedy
So to recap: This man got a girlfriend, just to make fun of her sexuality behind her back, and then they broke up, and then like half a year later he sends gangstalkers to force her to sit in a void with him and embarrass herself, and then says things wont work because she didnt tell *him* stuff.
uh idk if u watch the show but she ghosted him because of his stand up routine was about her and their sex life. it was cause he didn't communicate anything
I want to give that first girl a hug :( No one should ever have to go through their significant other telling everyone your sexual business. Its messed up. I hope she’s doing alright now.
hahahah fuck the problem is I always assume anyone I meet online that acts like that is too immature to NOT be a kid/young adult.... but no you can stay stupid apparently
Ikr there's no way 🤣🤣 this show was written my a group of incels that want to live in a world where their creepy and misogynistic antics are accepted and actually work
It might be a year later, but the amount of red flags given off is scary. Especially stating that he's spent 9 months trying to wrap his head around why the relationship ended, when they only dated for 6... truly terrifying. And taking it to a whole other level by getting an MTV show to track her down. There's something seriously wrong. Definitely obsessive and possessive personality traits showing. I would get a restraining order.
Hey... Obsessive and possessive "personality traits" is not the way to put it. There are mental illnesses with that, such as bpd, dpd, and old. We don't need to demonize mental illness, especially those with a stigma around it.
@@NoctisTheBogWitch nobody even brought up mental illnesses though?? i agree mental illnesses and personality disorders shouldn't be stigmatized and demonized, but still those kinds of behaviors aren't okay
@@NoctisTheBogWitch I genuinely cannot believe you're serious. Acting like we're not allowed to call abusers "possessive" ***when they literally are behaving possessively*** because that trait somehow "belongs" exclusively to mentally ill people??? That shit is BEYOND ableist. Acting like mentally ill people are not able to choose not to be abusive is ALSO ableist as all fuck. Not okay, really hoping you're like 14 and you just don't get it because if you're a whole adult and you still think this way that's not fucking cool and you need to fix your attitude.
There's nothing weird if you're trying to wrap your head around something that happened even once years ago. There's no time limit on being confused by an event or a relationship. Although this was very very obvious so it is weird. But again. How is the aftermath to relationship time ratio a "red flag"?
@blau woods either way, the way that this show is clearly trying to normalize this behavior is ridiculous. that's arguably worse than the behavior itself.
Geez that dude is a classic incel. Its honestly gross that the showrunners basically bullied Jordan into coming on and meeting him again. She deserved way more respect tgen what she got
That dude seems like a venerable narcissist. The girl probably didn't know how to socialise with someone that's socially manipulative. I agree that she probably didn't wanna be on the show at first, however I suspect she got paid for it and a chance to be on telly isn't that bad a deal. I thought the crew handled her pretty well actually.....that dude however, he got thrown under the bus like hot garbage. So to be fair, if she had been emotionally mature enough to communicate like an adult with the person she was dating....none of that mishegoss would have occurred. Antisocial behaviours like "ghosting" someone is problematic in relationships and should be a red flag. The dude was (essentially) stalking her. That's why you always give them closure when you break up. 😞 I'm not saying she's entirely at fault, only that she was 50% of the problem there.
Re-watching this video, you can SEE in Ross’s eyes that he thought Holly was going to choose to stay in contact. He only chose “ghost” to try and get her to beg him to come back. But she said “ghost” and you can see in his eyes “oh fuck”
"are you a creepy incel who got dumped by a girl you liked even though you just talked shit about her? stalk her until she sits in a room with you and tell her she's an idiot for being traumatised by you!"
for real though, besides being a dumb show, Ghosted is a way for entitled and possibly harmful people to track down exes who had a right to leave them. Like imagine if someone ghosted a person because they started to not feel safe in the relationship, so they blocked them and ran in order to protect themselves. Then imagine that the person who was ghosted used this show to find them. Who knows what could happen after filming wraps.
The fact that they made the moral of this show “ghosting is bad” as opposed to “stalking is bad” is so telling. I don’t care that these shows are super poorly staged, why send this kind of message to viewers??
I refuse to believe that she still loved him. It HAS to be staged! Or maybe she just said that so she can kinda get him to ghost her so then he can feel like he was the rejecter and finally stop stalking her! I really hope it's staged
What if they are people that hated the person they were dating so much that they killed themselves, then turned into ghosts and literally ghosted them? Then they have to do a crossover with a ghost hunting show to sit her down and ask her why she literally ghosted...
@@funkytime69 because bisexual people maybe will have sex with someone they like and are in a secure relashionship? So like the same as straight people, but now they don’t only want to form relashionships with people from just the opposite sex.
I ghosted the person I dated for 2 years because I got sick of the abuse and was genuinely terrified that I'd be killed if I ever went back or talked to her again. If I got tracked down and forced to talk to her, I don't think my mental health would be able to take it.
I also had a stalker and he kept bothering me on fb and its one of the reasons why i dont have any social media now other than yt and pinterest. I also ghosted someone ive been talking to for 7months,i just realized i dont like him he was weird af, says rude stuff and insulting without realizing it wtf,he acts like hes so smart
I saw a guy for 5 days & broke things off because he got manipulative and told me "I wasn't ready for a relationship" (??). He proceeded to call my phone numerous times and message me on different apps even after I told him he was scaring me, wait for me outside my uni hall of residence, death stare me & my friends whenever we were in the same eating hall/class, and told all his friends I was a whore. THEN came up to me at the uni ball (I didn't see him coming so that scared the shit out of me) and ask to dance??? I've moved cities and it's been almost 2 years but he's still blocked on everything. I'm scared to think what he would've done if we'd had a thing longer than a week...
I feel like they don’t understand that “Catfished” works because catfishing is always a dick move, whereas ghosting is sometimes a dick move, but sometimes incredibly justified - and if it’s the second you aren’t going to find out until after you’ve already exposed somebody’s personal life and humiliated them on national television 😬😬😬
@@jasmineprime7422 the only justifiable reason I can think of is you’re very self conscious and hate your identity so you decide to change it just for a little bit every day. You try to convince someone else that this charade you keep up is real. Then you break their heart because you’ve built a relationship with them through texting and you can’t expose your true personality and appearance.
@@jasmineprime7422 It's betraying someone's trust, lying and manipulation vs dodging potential danger, fear of confrontation and anxiety. You get the point ☠️
@@jasmineprime7422 Oh yeah I do agree. Both of them are terrible nonetheless. Although there's no valid reason for catfishing, ghosting has some. But then again, it's more common to be ghosted than catfished. Some people, if not in a danger situation should def give closure before parting ways cause *That. Shit. Hurts* lol.
scripted or not, this show is gross. the message it sends out is disgusting. if someone leaves you, you have to STALK them and find out why, even if it’s been wayyy too long since you’ve dated. poor girl
she was probably in her living room or something having a normal good day then all of a sudden her dms r blowing up and her phone is ringing just because these nosy tv producers want her to sit in a studio and talk about why she ghosted some loser and had sex a couple years ago in front of a camera and to broadcast to a few thousand people (i refuse to believe more than like 20k people actually watch mtv more specifically watch this show)
they didn't really acknowledge enough that HE is the a$$hole here. he went out of his way to get her email before they were dating, didn't tell her about his stand up shows because he was making fun of her behind her back, went out his way again to track her down when she decided she didn't want anything to do with him, and he still decided to blame HER for their break up. and they say chivalry is dead :/ even if this show is fake, what bothers me is that it ended with him thinking he's done everything right
preech. This is so disgusting, for the show just romanticize that, and be like "but, but, we are the good guys, there's nothing wrong with stalking the person who ghosted you and exposing her without even contacting before and profit out of if" dang... Yikes, i just hope that this is scripted and fake....
@@absolute-creature even if it's scripted that message is still horrible. "hey if someone you're interested in leaves you, why stop there? go GET your fairytale ending with this girl who voluntarily stopped responding to you 4 years ago!! we're gonna help you work the angles until we hook you lovebirds up for good!"
She slept with the tinderella host after choosing "Brian" and then the main guy who she dated for six months, also he said she dated girls back to back so this has nothing to do with bisexuals she actually sleeps around a ton
that literally doesn't change that direct comparison he made, he could've said she's more sexually active and that he's half a virgin, her sexuallity is completely irrelevant to the subject + mentioning it at all when talking about how promiscuous someone is spreads false stereotypes that create more biphobia
as someone who has dealt with a stalker (we weren't even dating, we were just friends for 3 weeks) has every social media on private, has to block new accounts he has made for the past year, this show is disgusting and is justifying being a creepy asshole. he needs to move on. i hate that they tried to get them back together, it's showing creeps that if they keep up with harassment that the victim will forgive them, which isn't ok. ghosting is 100% ok. not wanting to talk to someone like that is ok.
Same. I had to "ghost" my ex cause they were an abusive dick, and they still tried stalking me for a year or two after the fact. Had to completely change my online identity just to get them to leave me alone. This shit isn't fun.
Having to block but still watch new accounts trying to contact you is the worst. Like i cannot even have a normal fucking life on social media withouth having a whole lot of anxiety of a creepy jerk trying to spam you with crap. Like i wish i could just act online as I want to, and not as i _have_ to for a creepy guy. Thank god we're on different continents but last year i panicked so hard when i opened my personal email (For bank, school and serious stuff only) and found like 4 mails from different GMails but from the same 'stalker' (I don't know if to call him that because we used to be friends for like 7 or 8 months and ended up cutting ties with him for making me feel like shit) trying to gaslight me to talk to him and then cursing and insulting me to no end. I had no memory of ever giving him that email, and it had my reall full name on it. I'm still so creeped out. Some months ago he found my new discord and messaged me acting like a different person. Like i can't even know if who i'm talking to isn't him disguised. I genuinely can't trust making new friends or doing anything normal. It sickens me so much though i know it's not as bad as it could be.
@@Fumbann i go to the same school as the guy that’s harassing me and i have practically cut all ties with everyone there in fear they are friends with him trying to get to me. he found my phone number and gave it out to his friends and found my neighbors address and thinks it’s mine. it’s sick we can even relate on this, that there are so many people in the world that think and act this way that we have similar experiences.
@@kaatsuki7127 That is so terrible oh god. I'm so sorry that you have to go through that and in real life too. If it's possible it'd help so much if you change your phone number if you think it's getting dangerous, I had to change mine around that time I got the creepy mails but for other coincidental reasons and I'm very glad I did. I hope you stay safe
dude seeing her cry just ripped my heart apart because i've been in a similar situation (with family) and i know that feeling of just betrayal and shame
I know this video is ostensibly comedy, but I am genuinely so pissed at Ross. This dude comes in acting like a meek victim of unfair heartbreak, blatantly misrepresents the context of the relationship, is _visibly ashamed_ when his disgusting "comedy" is exposed, and then _gets upset with Jordan for overreacting‽_ At least Jordan seemed happy in that last clip of her. Now I just hope the world joins me in never giving Ross another moment's thought ever.
I watched this whole episode, and what he was actually upset about was her not confronting him. EDIT: I highly recommend watching the episode before this one: season 1 episode 1. They help two best friends reunite. It’s what I wish the whole show was like.
@@nickc3657 he knew already the jokes were inappropriate and wildly hurtful, that's why he wouldn't tell her about the comedy shows. he had every opportunity to bring it up or change his material but he kept doing it for SIX MONTHS! obviously she didn't feel safe or comfortable enough to confront him about it, he probably would've made a "joke" about that too. it's literally entirely his fault
I knew this dude was creepy from the beginning like they met because he stalked her. They made eye contact and suddenly he felt entitled to find her personal information so he can talk with her even though she clearly pick someone else. He then gets upset when he found out that she slept with some other guy before they even dated, he gives off major creepy stalker vibes. When he couldn’t stalk her anymore he then found a camera crew who would. This poor girl dodged a bullet by ghosting him, hope she doing well cause this whole thing is traumatizing
This guy seems to want everyone to believe the comedy was no big deal and that he didn't know it was gonna be offensive to her... but he went out of his way to hide it specifically from her? He knew what he was doing lmao
Right! Abusive people almost always know what they are doing is reprehensible. That's why they always try so hard to trick their victims into thinking it's no big deal. "It was just a joke!" He said. But...who was the punchline???
Secrecy is a red flag! Abusive folks try to hide the heinous stuff they're doing that affects others. They don't want to face the consequences, secrecy helps them avoid responsibility!
So…he’s acting like he didn’t know that the comedy would be offensive to her but he specifically went out of his way to hide it from her? How does that make sense?
This is probably staged but that doesn't change the fact that people like these exist. People who have suffered having a toxic stalker, people who think stalking and harassing their crush will make them fall in love with them. This show is portraying horrible and toxic real life situations but instead of denouncing them it excuses them and makes them seem innocent and romantic. It's disgusting.
I love how upset the producers looks like "OMG the girl doesn't want to be in a toxic relationship????" and the guy just looks like doesn't understand what a toxic relationship is.
his "comedy" wasn't even funny at all, he literally tracked her down, when she OBVIOUSLY wanted *nothing* to do with him, and made her sit through that again. what a trash show, honestly.
@@ghostly7139 lots of women have self confidence issues or have trouble saying no. Plus, it's easy to say "she could've just said no" when you're a outsider looking in.
she's way too dramatic about it though. Like this must be extremely fake. Ok in the moment you could feel hurt or even break up, but 9+ months later and this girl has moved on and has a relationship but she's still crying? About what? Because a guy exposed her daddy kink????? ????
@@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII That itself is a insensitive thing to say. She was already going through quite a bit and she could be a very sensitive person. I myself know what it is like for people to make jokes about you about things you told them personally to others. Even if your name isn't told or anything, it still hurts, especially if you have dealt with things like bullying, loss, etc.
as someone who had a stalker and finally broke free, if a random number claiming started calling me and all of my friends asking about me i’d be terrified.
This man didn’t miss her at all. His ego was so bruised when she ghosted him that he just needed to see her again to see that he can get her back and be the one to reject her. What a manipulative insecure freak lmao
I don't think that's particularly true, he seems like a somewhat genuine guy that did really like her, but at the same time I get that the jokes weren't taken well... However, when I have friends who make jokes about me I don't leave them forever, I go to them and communicate with them, if they do it again then okay fair, she just straight ghosted him, didn't even give him a chance to apologize cuz her ego was bruised. Have you heard the shit Kevin Hart or Gabriel Iglesias says about their love lives, they said much worst jokes. Especially kevin about how freaky women he's dealt with are. she's just too sensitive, which isn't necessarily bad but she should have been mature enough to atleast communicate with him, rather than secretly go to his show to hear one bad joke, that's like me secretly going to my gf work place and hearing her say something bad about me so I dump her, it's stupid cuz I guarantee every person you been with had had thought atleast one bad thing about you.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 yep, it’s the woman that needed to learn communication and be more mature, and it’s the woman whose ego was bruised and was too sensitive. Not the guy who knowingly made shitty and toxic stand up jokes behind his partner’s back, and then berated her for getting mad at him for it. Not the guy who tracked down his ex months after the relationship had ended, when she was already in another relationship and more time had passed since they’d been together than when they’d actually been together. Not the guy who thinks he can still be the comforting white knight, saying “it’s ok” to his crying ex after he tracked her down, made her confess her personal life in the spotlight, and then rejected her immediately after. It’s probably mostly fake anyway, because I can’t imagine she would actually still love the guy after all of this shit, so this argument is likely pointless. However, if we’re really going to moralize these people and analyze them, one is clearly more flawed than the other.
@@macknight2352 @Mac Knight nah I'm not saying the guy wasn't shitty himself, he def could have been more mature, and not be a stalker. I just feel like it's all being put on the guy becuz he's clearly more flawed and has bad way of doing things, while we are overlooking what the women could have done better. Just put it into perspective, the jokes he made was about her freakiness, nothing was about her having dad issues or her personal baggage, just jokes he most likely thought would be relatable, and to be fair when he said thanks for the pta for the girls I do want, yeah that was honestly a part that bothered me, but it is stand up, you don't watch Kevin Hart and think those stories are the real him, you know they are a bit exaggerating to be more funny, you know he's partly in there but you know you can't base all his intentions off his jokes, so I get why she lost her trust at that part, but if he really wanted other girls he wouldn't have cared when she dumped him, you don't care about closure if you don't like the women. Look I ain't tryna make an argument out of this just giving a different perspective, we don't have to agree with eachother but all I'm saying is that guy is flawed and he needs to work on himself, but she definitely is just as flawed and she expects a guy to accept all her baggage, which is how it should be, but as soon as he makes one fuck up, she doesn't even try to accept his and give a chance, she just goes instantly to blocking which is petty becuz you know she did that to make him feel some type cuz she felt some type herself. And then she's crying cuz a man said she's too freaky, get over it, if your crying cuz someone said that, you most likely are, and even if not, why do you honestly care?
@@akkoismydaughter3573 if somebody talks about you behind your back, you have no obligation to "hear them out". She didn't attack or try to argue with him, she exited a situation and relationship she didn't want to be in. It's not her fault he couldn't let go after ALMOST A YEAR. if you want to forgive someone that's your choice, but don't blame someone for not putting up with toxic behavior.
exactly!! like yeah being ghosted sucks, especially if you've had time & a bond to get invested in that person. but more time can heal almost anything, and if the alternative to moving on with one's life is essentially getting an entire cast & crew to "pursue" (harass) a past infatuation so you learn why they left you, that's super pathetic. why would anyone even WANT to go through all that for a bond with a person they KNOW doesn't want them? and even worse, who the hell would want to be on a show basically geared towards overly clingy people with no dignity? have some pride, folks. rant over lmao
The "Its okay.. i want to give her a hug now" sent me into fight or flight mode Edit: plus imagine getting over a toxic ex and learning that you're stronger than that, just for two hosts to tell you "hey! No no no. You bad person for that." Circus behaviour
Oh my God why are you being so mean to me, all I did was make jokes at your expense without consulting you, then intentionally tried to hide it from you, and then finally stalked you for months after you broke up with me.
When they FaceTime her at the end she basically says “ya I learned that vulnerability is something that will do nothing but hurt me and from now on I will put up walls that will limit all my future relationships:)” like girl they HURT her
Bruh that type of thinking is toxic, that mindset isn't gonna work becuz relationships are all about trust, I get why she feels like that though she didn't want a guy making sex jokes about her but vulnerability is something that hurts us all, it's part of being in a relationship, you know your risking getting hurt Everytime you get in a relationship
@@akkoismydaughter3573 those of us who have been hurt repeatedly are aware of that. We also know that trusting has gotten us hurt and that it will keep happening if we continue doing what we're doing. I have the same mindset as this woman. I keep others at a distance until they earn my trust, and that is not easy. If I try to change and be more trusting and get hurt again, I will go into a very dark place mentally. The past few years have been very hard for me and my family and I've had to fight to keep myself together so I can earn a living and support us, rather than have a breakdown. I am not going to change. This is what works for me. If someone doesn't want to put in time and work to get me to trust them, they can look for someone who's had an easier life.
@@janeeyre1990 First of all, I get where your coming from cuz there aren't many you can trust nowadays, and you should never fully trust somebody, atleast not until you seen their best and worst. At the same time, never let horrible men of your past change how you treat the men of your future. There ain't nothing wrong with keeping your distance from people you invest in, but do you want someone to be in a relationship with the fake you or real you. You can't build with someone if you don't know what type of wood they are using. If you want someone to accept you for who you are, how are they gonna do that if they don't know what makes you who you are. At some point your gonna have to tell them who you are... It's fine if it takes a while, infact it should, it shouldn't have to be that you automatically trust your partner in the beginning unless your good friends Had she not told him anything those jokes on sexuality he made probably still would have been said, and she'd still be offended but have no right to feel offended then. But rather he'd say it again or not, shouldn't matter. I highly doubt he made those jokes to take advantage of her vulnerability. She says she learned to put walls up but it's all becuz of jokes he made about her being freaky, not about her being sexually harassed. Her putting walls up was clearly out of emotions. Nothing wrong with emotions but it can't be the driving force out of reaction
This guy is so disgusting I can’t even enjoy the cringe. And the way the show made it seem like it was her fault for her life being intruded upon because she ghosted an abuser is awful.
I agree, but can we not throw around the word abuser? He's definitely a huge creep and pretty manipulative, but he never "abused" her. Not trying to start anything, I just think that's a really loaded word for some dude who was just a creepy douchebag.
@@bbygirlx31 I mean, I would consider stalking and gaslighting to be abusive. He lied to her about his career so he could belittle her to an audience and then made it into something she did wrong when she rightfully cut him out of her life.
"are you telling me I made jokes at your expense and gaslighted you afterwards and you're like...not offering to make it better? Nvm I don't wanna date you anymore" -the half virgin
That's not what gaslighting means at all. He hid the jokes from her in the first place and didn't even know she knew about them until later. That's not even remotely like gaslighting.
@@TheTheValer he acted like it was completely fine and tried to mak her feel like she was blowing it out of proportion by getting reasonably upset...how is that not gaslighting
Twitter leftists arent at all prepared for the coming wave of cottage core moodboard making tik tok ecofascist racist e-girls but thats not a conversation anyone wants to have.
ah, so he sexually objectified her infront of a crowd without her consent and then tried to gaslight her after she had justifiably cut him out of her life?? very nice very cool, i love it here
Nah but honestly his jokes were bad but this is about her not communicating, you shouldn't expect a man to be able to read your mind or your feelings, I can't stand women who get emotional but don't tell you why and expect you to know what not to do. That's like you saying something I don't like, instead of telling you not to do that, I ignore you, your gonna do it again most likely cuz you don't know why I'm ignoring you
@@akkoismydaughter3573 Those jokes were his fault. If somebody cheats on me for example, I'm out of there. I don't need to explain why I'm leaving if I have a good reason. If my partner gets involved with bad shit that I don't wanna be apart of, I'm out of there. You are not entitled to an explanation as to why your partner no longer wants to be involved with you if you have done something like this. The lack of communication was his fault, not hers. She left for a good reason, he made those jokes because he thought it was funny to put someone's intimate life on blast without permission. Also Kevin Hart is a misogynistic homophobic little bitch, so that's a stupid comparison anyway lmfao
12:08 I wanna know how many takes these reactions from Drew took. The perfect amount of incredulity, the right volume, the precise tonal cracking. It's beautiful, really.
@@lederp7151 yeah but the common trope is "man gets rejected but he keeps persuing her until she eventually gives in because he loves her!!! Happy ever after !1!!1!" Also intersex people aren't a gender
@@user-nw3ol7fk1i Shit sorry I confused sex with gender for a moment, but also so what if that’s the common trope, the person creating the comment is still being sexist either way and that’s going to be my final opinion as it’s been three weeks and they didn’t even simply try to clear things up.
@Le Derp men are societally encouraged to buy into that “don’t give up” stuff. when women/non-men are socially pushed into doing that, then you’ll have a point
Him being upset bc "it's just a joke" pisses me off. Like, dude, there's a reason you hid your stand up from her. You knew she'd be upset about you making jokes about her trauma and personal life. She was so out of his league too. Like, my guy, get your priorities straight.
“she’s openly bisexual I’m half a virgin” bro being bisexual isn’t synonymous with sleeping around or being experienced c’mon now you coulda just said that instead
@@I_love_dr_stone lmao exactly, it was like "so i have this gf and man... she's crazy in bed haHaahaAhHAHAahahaHAhHAHa...........wild" like.. okay, thanks for the story about your sex life? WHERE'S THE JOKE?
I totally agree but honestly in my opinion she didn’t really have much to be mad about. I expected him to call her a skank or something. The guy is still a massive creep, but I don’t necessarily think bad comedy is a reason to ghost somebody
"Catfish" is way much more entertaining tbh. Cuz like "catfish" is like- the person they track down kinda deserved it but these poor ppl in "ghosted" have delt with these toxic ass ppl and just wanted to get away but they're forced to sit with the person that caused their trauma and also get stalked which is- wow the biggest cherry ontop
Well, coming from someone who's been ghosted and still is by that person, it feels bad obviously when someone you really care about abandons you, (when you're not a weird person like my half virgin friens over here), for normal people like us, say for example with me, my friend of 3 years just started ghosting me, obviously I'm gonna feel guilty and responsible when it might not even be a me problem, or at least thats what some mutual friends have told me, and im gonna want answers as to why this happened, obviously im not gonna stalk them but its gonna take a mental toll on me
@@ronaldromero7364 well yeah I've been ghosted and blocked by ppl without knowing why but that's their choice, that's what they did to benefit themselves I'd rather move on then be selfish and force them to tell me exactly why they distanced themself from me
@@Leoji0325 i get that, obviously we wanna know but we're not gonna pressure them into talking, what im trynna say is, you could see why some people might start to get toxic over it
@@Leoji0325 I agree with you wholeheartedly. It fricken hurts to be ghosted, and there’s obviously curiosity about why they did it. but it’s not like I’m gonna get a PI and stalk them to find out
His telling the show crew that he was "half a virgin" while she's an "open bisexual" is like... ew. Firstly being bisexual doesn't mean you're experienced. Secondly being sexually experiences doesn't mean you're a bad person as he repeatedly implies. Thirdly he should not have shared this information about her on tv.
EXACTLY, I’m SO disappointed people are still like, BisExuals are untrustworthy, Thats so gross to say, It literally just means we’re attracted to all genders, IM BI AND 20 YEARS OLD AND IVE NEVER EVEN HAD MY FIRST KISS😭
Oh yeah fuck those people who want to find closure. The uncaring immature "adults" who can't communicate their feelings and just abandon around 1% (0.8 out of 80 years) of their life they spend on a relationship because they felt extra sad are the real victims!
@@InterDylan I’m not sure how you made all those leaps and bounds from my comment lol but it’s nobody’s job to provide closure for anybody else. If someone doesn’t want to be in your life, you need to figure out a way to get over it.
@@catsoflasagna If she spend that long in an relationship or any boyfriend/girlfriend relationship she has an obligation to that person to do that yes. If she is to be a decent person she should ATLEAST say goodbye (like she didn't even say it by text, how disrespectful can you be?)
i know this is an older video, but i can't stand the way people like him go "seriously, _that's_ why you're upset?" or "it's not that serious" like, no! you don't get to choose whether or not you hurt someone, that's not your thing to decide! like it can be the dumbest thing to you but it doesn't matter, you can't just un-upset someone
@@wheeliebin1791 I’m sure it was partially scripted, but the message that the show puts out is so uncomfy regardless of whether it’s real or not. Actually, if they did script the ending, the fact that they manipulated the truth for the sake of excusing a toxic relationship (like “she still loves him so it’s okay and she shouldn’t have left”) is almost even worse.
The way he said that shes "fully bisexual" whiles hes half a virgin. As if being LGBT is like a high level sex act or something. Bruh I was bi when I was a virgin, smh.
@@rosieandre6121 (coming from a bisexual) correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t pan/poly/omnisexuals technically bisexual as well? Like they’re more specific terms the same way that agender/genderfluid/bigender/other are all part of the non-binary and transgender umbrella terms. So then obviously it’s totally fine for you to just say you’re bi as well, even if you know you are more specifically omni. Also, slightly unrelated but can you describe your own definition of omnisexuality? I’ve only heard one other person’s experience before and I’m curious just how universal that was (so I can THEN see how accurate my own definition is! C: )
This shit is one of the reasons why some women won’t leave their abusers. The fear of being stalked and harassed by your ex is so real and so scary, this entire concept makes me furious
@@benjones7634 True although I still think even so the show is damaging for probably making some men and women and teenagers think that she was in the wrong and that if they were in that situation it would be wrong to ghost the other person which isn’t true because he clearly crossed boundaries and disrespected her
Ok can we talk about the fact that he compared her being openly bisexual to him being "half a virgin still" like her being bi has ANYTHING to do with her amount sexual activity
I doubt she's miserable becuz of this, if your that sensitive that you are miserable becuz someone said something about you you didn't like, then you are too sensitive, it's different if he keeps doing it but if he only said it once and your miserable, you need more emotional maturity, cuz people will always have something to say about you you won't like, should you cry Everytime they do? Obviously not and I doubt she always does.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 u sound just like my mom. Everytime I cry about something that actually bothers me the only thing she says u shouldn't be so sensitive.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 He didn't just "say something about her she didn't like one time." He MADE FUN OF HER ON STAGE IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF PEOPLE AS PART OF A STAND-UP ROUTINE THAT HE WROTE AND PLANNED OUT. This is like comparing someone who threw out your t-shirt to someone who shreds ALL your clothes!
It gave me war flashbacks to my failed marriage when he said “It’s okay,” immediately after he gaslit her and invalidated her hurt feelings. And you just knoowww he felt like he was being so gentlemanly and comforting her, after kindly informing her that what HE’D suffered so much over, her reason to feel hurt wasn’t actually a big deal. I’d be crying because my ex said something really mean about me and then he’d hit me with the dead fish arms hug and “It’s okay.” Like, what’s okay?!?! What you said???
Same feeling, I heard him say it's okay and all I could think was "You did the thing! You don't determine if it was okay! Even if you were somehow right you still don't say that! " creepy and manipulative and downright foolish as well
I had a boyfriend (only lasted for two months out of the 2 years we talked) who always made himself seem like the victim. the last straw I had was when he was acting like the victim after basically harassing multiple people (my friends and including me) and being so weird. there is a lot more detail which I won’t get into, but the most important part is he still does not know what he did wrong in this scenario. I can’t imagine how many times I turned on my friends just believing his word saying he was the victim without going further into detail. I’m so glad I haven’t talked to him since last year.
If I were the hosts, I would've stopped him the moment he said they locked eyes and he found her email. Straight up stalker. Not to mention he says she literally picked someone else.
Like so many people in the comments are saying, this show promotes so many bad ideas. Even if it is all scripted, it's NOT okay to behave the way these people are. If someone blocks them then it means something. These people seem so creepy and this being a TV show normalizes this kind of stuff and gives creeps ammo to say, "Hey, this is in a TV show on MTV, so it must be OK tk act this way right? I can just track someone down if they try to avoid me right?"
@@GTRRSS Hey, I've been ghosted multiple times. Yes, sometimes I really want to know why. Sometimes it eats me up inside for a long time. But I don't stalk the person for months and find ways to track them and their friends down to get personal information on them and force them to talk to me. Why don't I do that? Because it's creepy and invasive, I'm not a stalker, and even though I think ghosting is super rude, I respect the person enough not to do all that stuff to them.
CAN YOU IMAGINE YOU TAKING A BREAK FROM LIKE YOUR SOCIALS AND STUFF AND THEN THESE MTV HOSTS SHOW UP AT YOUR DOOR AND TAKE YOU TO A WAREHOUSE FOR INTERROGATION??
Just so everyone knows, it is completely okay to ghost someone if they are manipulating you, abusing you, or exhibiting toxic behaviors. You are not obligated to “talk it out” with someone who won’t listen to you.
@@ElliJelliZ Very true. I stuck with a friend for years before I started to realize he was gaslighting me and sending hidden homophobic remarks my way. Then he just proceeded to deny everything once I told him we couldn’t be friends anymore.
@@strawberry_sapphic5007 I had a friend who was a bit creepy towards me for a while but I always justified it as a joke even though it made me uncomfortable. he moved to another state, and after getting some distance, i sorta realized he wasn't all that great. some of my friends started telling me stuff about him that made them angry or uncomfortable, so finally I just cut ties. he told me on a phone call that he used to have a crush on me, but i definitely dodged a bullet considering how he treated his girlfriend at the time.
Unless they are abusing you, you shouldn't just ghost them. You should send a text or email at least letting them know why you are ending the relationship. People should be told what they are doing wrong. Otherwise they just start female hating or man hating and treating their future partners even worse.
@@jennam2449 I understand where you are coming from, and i get exactly what you mean. I was not being abused by this person, My relationship could not be counted as abuse in any legal sense, but he had very abusive tendencies, and he treated a lot of people like garbage for no reason. and he always had a way of taking criticism VERY personally. I don't handle confrontation very well, so i was not sure what to do, but by this point he had moved to another state and he did not go to my school anymore. I know i probably should have given him some sort of explanation, but i was very scared of what he would do, or how he would react. I completely understand where you are coming from, and i know some people are ghosted for bad reasons, or their actions are misinterpreted, but he was really off, and i genuinely just was not sure how to handle this, being a minor at the time.
Okay, but like, what they did with pressuring Jordan, _who was now in a different relationship,_ to make her talk to her ex that she clearly didn't wanna talk too. Something seems so wrong about it. Edit: Also, how did the hosts of the show _know_ Ross had a stand-up comedy career, but _didn't know_ his jokes were centered around making fun of his girlfriend?
Because the show is staged lmao. You think the execs at MTV would actually put in the time, effort and money to get everyone on board and for everyone to sign waivers?
@@jerrell1169 Even if its staged It sure doesn't send a healthy message and can have real life consequences. Because it just reinforces biases. Oh and stalkers. Lets not forget they exist.
Tbh if my girlfriend disappeared without a trace I probably would try to make sure she didn't get murdered or anything, but as soon as I found out she's alive I would stop there and respect her decision
THE AUDACITY FROM HIM AND THE FACT HE DOESNT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT HE DID WRONG
I KNOW!! DISGUSTING
@semi "but its her fault too because being open is very important. Like me. I never hid anything from her, ever."
Don't understand it either. Almost every dude does what he does. not necessarily to make fun of her, but more to make fun of yourself. He even said he's half a virgin, so how could he be making fun of her
She's not in the right at all. Not saying he is either. He seems like a douche, sure.
IKR THE AUDACITY WTF
@@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII he wasn’t making self deprecating humor in his stand up, it was all making fun of her and sharing intimate details that would only be okay to share if he asked her first and didn’t go out of his way to hide it from her
Ghosted sounds really Invasive. Imagine just leaving someone creepy and then they track u dowm using some randos find u and force u to talk to them. Like, WHAT THE FUCK. who thought this was a good idea!?!?!
Just about to comment this, I hope this show is fake because wtf
I think it was trying to play off the success of catfish but it’s different bc there’s super valid reasons why someone might ghost the other person
@@aurorasore it seems super fake but still pretty hard to watch
Nobody is forcing you, and finding someone's Instagram account isn't tracking.
@@LaVaZ000 getting blocked by someone on all their socials and then getting someone else to look for that person is tracking someone?
the girl deserves an award for not immediately just decking him in the face
That award should be the chance to deck him in the face
and she also deserve an award if ever she did.
She didn't even need to come on here.
profile pic twins
Honestly she totally looks like she could deck him
Unbelievably irresponsible of the organiser of Tinderella to give out that’s girl’s email
And gross that he brought her home after it too. Like I get that it's a silly little dating event but that's still very unprofessional
they’re enabling stalking so easily
how does anyone think this is real...
@@emilyb.8219I feel like her hooking up is a personal decision.
She's an adult. She can say no.
......but the email thing was definitely an inavasion of privacy.
@@krishnaveervohra5641I seriously hope this is fake.
This seems very much like repeat trauma against her. Yikes. She had issues with her father, got her boundaries and autonomy disrespected by this dude, and then was forced to sit down and talk about it all with random people for a show in a way that didn't respect her again. I know she had to agree to be on there, ultimately, but this is messed up.
She didn't have to agree. It's a stupid fucking tv show made by MTV. She more likely signed a contract and this is scripted.
@@mojavecourier6987 well it sounds like she was ignoring the show people for awhile to the point they started contacting people in her life, so she probably felt the only way to get the show to stop harassing her was to go along with it.
@@indigocarra2762 I think that too. People from these shows can be really manipulative.
Can't believe people nowadays still think shows like this are real. I mean common, the video of the stand up show? That was so obviously fake and she was filming from like the second row, like he wouldn't see her lol
Yeah this was a big fuckin’ yikes
"She sounds pretty traumatized" after they wouldn't leave her alone. Smdh.
"Let's traumatise her some more!"
Yeah, wtf
she sounds pretty traumatized... now lets put her in a room and force her to talk to the thing that traumatized her!
I really hope this is staged
wait, that wasn't Drew's voice-over? 😰
White Guy Complains is a cinematic masterpiece
Ikr
Deseves an award
yeah have you watched the danny gonzalez,kurtis conner or cody ko edition? They're all 11/10
Cody, Danny, Drew, and Kurtis are the white guy commentary set
White guy complain*
I love how they just gloss over the fact that in his stand-up, he basically implies that she's like, a practice girlfriend to learn sex stuff from. Talking about how now he's going to go to PTA meetings to pick up the women he -really- wants. That's the MOST disrespectful part of the routine and they don't even touch it.
And “going to a PTA meeting” implying that he’s specifically looking to pick up teenagers 😬
@@burritocinema I read that as either trying to pick up either the moms or the teachers. Students generally don't go to PTA meetings.
Why'd they even ask if she would ghost him again... she was in a relationship lmao
that's what i was shouting for that entire part... it's like they just forgot about that fact?? gee...
I was hoping that they’d show him saying that he now wants to ghost her. TRIPLE GHOST!
FRR
but she said that she still loves him?????? that was the most confusing part for me
They all must have forgotten about the script at that point. Maybe this story is real or completely staged or somewhere in between. This is 'reality' TV after all.
Her saying, "i mean, I still love him." made me think the whole thing is fake af.
yeah don't worry it is
3/07/21: The day @knovis started using 2% of their brain
They dated for 6 months. I do not think time is the perfect indicator on the strength of the relationship.
But still, how can you hold a flame for some one you have not seen longer than you were actually together?
Reality shows are notorious for editing footage out of context and coercing people to say/do things they don’t want to
Maybe she meant her dad?
So the guy who runs "Tinderella" gives out client info freely and therefore absolutely can not be trusted even beyond the lack of trust he should already have as a guy that runs something called "Tinderella". Thats the point of that first bit yeah?
yeah plus just openly sharing on tv that he took her home that night?? thats pretty scummy too
It’s most likely staged, but yeah it’s pretty fucked up
He also apparently sleeps with people he meets there, which is a big red flag in general.
!!!!!!
Also hooking up with her afterwards like shouldn’t you be more professional than that? Hosting a dating show and hooking up with contestants is inappropriate and a bad look for you
the way he immediately invalidates her once he finds out that his shitty stand up is why she left is very telling.
Yeah, real casual scumbag shit
Its so interesting to watch emotional manipulation as a 3rd party
Bro it's MTV, it's prob fake lmao
If you are ever doubting yourself, remember a fully grown man said he was “like, half a virgin” on MTV
💀💀💀
“Half a virgin” is just a stolen line from Mean Girls.
hah
I could cry when looking at my like dislike ratio. I have so many jealous people that my videos always get way more dislikes than likes. Please don't be jealous, dear jim
They're actors, dude
It's a scripted show, my guy
This girl is fucking traumatized and just got manipulated and we watched it happen
It's very fake though
@@theleafeon1 shit like this still happens tho :( all the time
@@scout4844 It's a teenybopper show on MTV, chillax
@@NeonCicada
Why are you so defensive?
@@adeer87 Why do you perceive me as being defensive?
Ok but that’s so rude. She’s just trying to live her life and they’re making a whole episode exposing who she slept with, a bunch of personal things, etc.
"This guy making jokes and revealing my personal info and talking about my sex life really bothered me so I ghosted him!"
"Wow, you know what would be great? If all of this was revealed on actual television :D"
@@awfulroffle fr. That’s invasion of her privacy and literally none of their business. It’s creepy and they should just leave her alone lol
I’m like 90% it’s mostly, if not entirely staged. It’d be way less work to stage everything than it would be to get waivers for everything and everyone involved as well as getting everyone on board with it.
when her friend said “who’s ross” lmaodndndbdhshsgd
Bruh this is so clearly staged. Just like the radio show drew references. Dont get angry over fictional chara tera
"Yeah, she's openly bisexual, she calls people daddy."
I... I think this guy is mixing up bisexual with something else
bicameral?
@@ratedpending “Bicameral” means “two-chambered” as in an animal’s heart, or the US Congress.
@@andrewollmann304 So it's the correct term? Nice.
(Obvious joke)
The two sexualities: bisexual and orphan
i genuinely have no idea what being bisexual has to do with being kinky or experienced. im bi and a virgin lmao
"she's openly bisexual and i'm still half a virgin" does he think all bisexuals sleep around
Also, what does half a virgin mean? He's only slept with a woman and not a man? He lost his straight virginity but not the gay half.
@@NateBeeman that seems to be what it means.
Yes. Yes he does.
I think MTV used to make that impression. I remember a show they had where it was like the bachelor but with bisexuals.
yeah that was really fucking gross
I just can’t believe he’s a comedian. He’s like the most boring looking and sounding person I’ve ever seen.
his jokes are based on shocking the audience and sexism. who tf even laughed there.
@@solala1312 probably misogynists
Drew? Yeah
Yeah the snippet of the routine we saw was just "Sex? mildly kinky sex? *waits for laughter and applause* " Painful.
The routine wasn't as offensive as it was straight up unoriginal. If it was me, I'd break up with him because he's a shitty comedian.
This dude is literally a red flag. He couldn't accept that she picked another dude, he managed to get her email without her knowledge and he's basically stalking her.
This could be a PSA commercial about stalking, and when people you meet are a red flag.
Right! Every little detail about this is so creepy.
"just cause i'm a stalker"
He also refused to see any fault with himself until she broke down crying. And he kinda looks like Elliot Roger
she wasn't that bothered because she dated him for 6 months
That poor, poor girl. She was stalked, belittled, and harassed, and he has the audacity to try and play the victim?? God, I'd be scarred forever, I just hope she's able to live some semblance of a normal life now with real, genuine people who actually treat her like she has feelings
I know. I hope she's in a good place after all this. :(
Dating women is already a good start lol. Obviously not that LGBTQ people can't be toxic or nasty but it's soooooooooooo much less likely than if you're dating a cishet dude.
Dude's stand up was horrible, didn't make a single joke. Just said stuff.
ye i hope that was made up just for this show too; can't imagine people paying to see _that_ smh
It’s not my kinda of stand up but it wasn’t terrible like he wasn’t bombing he was clearly just having fun
@Nirio he was making fun of the fact that she doesn’t know her dad and he was broadcasting their personal life to strangers. that’s not him having fun.
@@katam7299 “broadcasting her personal life” look up josh wolf or any comedian with a kid that’s what they do dipshit I mean it’s kinda shitty but it makes for good comedy
@@nirio1874 dude that's not the point. the point is that he crossed boundaries and didn't ask her whether his jokes were ok or not
Honestly, the fact that they put this on TV is disgusting.
Everyone on the show had to sign consent forms.
@@ValerieIsEpic Well it's scripted.
Yeah I feel really bad for this girl. It seems like she has dealt with a lot.
@@joshroehl6098 JOSH YOU NEED TO STOP YOUR SONG (WHICH IS HOPEFULLY IRONIC) FUCKING SUCKS IT MAKES ME WANT TO DIE
@@joshroehl6098 great song! Really inspired me to pop my ear drums! Keep it up man!
So to recap: This man got a girlfriend, just to make fun of her sexuality behind her back, and then they broke up, and then like half a year later he sends gangstalkers to force her to sit in a void with him and embarrass herself, and then says things wont work because she didnt tell *him* stuff.
Ah yes, romance!
a dream😍
uh idk if u watch the show but she ghosted him because of his stand up routine was about her and their sex life. it was cause he didn't communicate anything
I wouldn't say she was the one who embarrassed herself....
Typical XY chromosome behavior
I want to give that first girl a hug :(
No one should ever have to go through their significant other telling everyone your sexual business. Its messed up. I hope she’s doing alright now.
Why are they making her out to be the bad guy? “What did you learn?” Tf? He’s the one making jokes about her personal life
Their.
@@adityabhandari5448 there is no point in my comment where “their” should be used
@@GravityFallsUp Arguably could say he's making jokes about 'their' personal life, as it was also his personal life :)
@@sillysnailguy No they meant that the jokes were about both of their personal lives but tbh it was a pretty pointless correction lmao
@@Kn1cknackz0 oh that makes sense. I was like... I'm pretty sure "she/her" were the pronouns that both the show and Drew were using.
this guy is who i’m gonna imagine now everytime i see a comment that says “wow, nobody can take a joke anymore. the world is so sensitive”
hahahah fuck the problem is I always assume anyone I meet online that acts like that is too immature to NOT be a kid/young adult.... but no you can stay stupid apparently
I just wonder why some people laughed those "jokes" 😒
@@marivirtanen4506 even ignoring the fact that they were very disrespectful, they just weren't good jokes
We have more video proof to define a "neck beard."
This guy is accurate to those morons
“I mean I still love him” was the moment I knew this entire show was fake
Ikr there's no way 🤣🤣 this show was written my a group of incels that want to live in a world where their creepy and misogynistic antics are accepted and actually work
@@Merpsicles Also don't forget the casual biphobia of saying she's experienced because she's bisexual like the fuck those things are not related.
especially since she’s apparently in a relationship currently??? there’s no way she’d say that
It’s so stupid and fake..
Yeah exactly
It might be a year later, but the amount of red flags given off is scary. Especially stating that he's spent 9 months trying to wrap his head around why the relationship ended, when they only dated for 6... truly terrifying. And taking it to a whole other level by getting an MTV show to track her down. There's something seriously wrong. Definitely obsessive and possessive personality traits showing. I would get a restraining order.
Hey... Obsessive and possessive "personality traits" is not the way to put it. There are mental illnesses with that, such as bpd, dpd, and old. We don't need to demonize mental illness, especially those with a stigma around it.
@@NoctisTheBogWitch nobody even brought up mental illnesses though?? i agree mental illnesses and personality disorders shouldn't be stigmatized and demonized, but still those kinds of behaviors aren't okay
@@NoctisTheBogWitch I genuinely cannot believe you're serious. Acting like we're not allowed to call abusers "possessive" ***when they literally are behaving possessively*** because that trait somehow "belongs" exclusively to mentally ill people??? That shit is BEYOND ableist. Acting like mentally ill people are not able to choose not to be abusive is ALSO ableist as all fuck. Not okay, really hoping you're like 14 and you just don't get it because if you're a whole adult and you still think this way that's not fucking cool and you need to fix your attitude.
There's nothing weird if you're trying to wrap your head around something that happened even once years ago. There's no time limit on being confused by an event or a relationship. Although this was very very obvious so it is weird. But again. How is the aftermath to relationship time ratio a "red flag"?
Yeah, it's designed to be scary. This isn't a reality TV show. It's a poorly made horror movie.
How can he say she’s in “another relationship already” after 9 months... + NINE MONTHS OF JUST STALKING HER??? That’s so scary
especially considering they were only together for six??
he was stalking her for 9 months and she was in a relationship during the same 9 months. not 18 months.
@blau woods either way, the way that this show is clearly trying to normalize this behavior is ridiculous. that's arguably worse than the behavior itself.
I don't really know if it's scary, it's just sad.
No wait yeah it is pretty scary,
Just saying "It's a joke" doesn't justify stalking or toxic behaviour.
I just though of going to the alps. th-cam.com/video/tQjONoAUTMA/w-d-xo.html
@@donthecrab that link is kinda sus, dont think ill click on it
@@cookiehawk You do not see the way.
@@donthecrab lol, someone stole my comment word for word
Holy shit, this has 1k likes! Thanks guys.
Geez that dude is a classic incel. Its honestly gross that the showrunners basically bullied Jordan into coming on and meeting him again.
She deserved way more respect tgen what she got
@@Alexdawaffwe it doesnt matter if its fake, its endorsing stalking your ex and forcing them to tell you why they ghosted you.
The way they framed it like “she learned not to ghost people anymore ;)” irritates me so much. She had every right to not want to speak to him.
That dude seems like a venerable narcissist. The girl probably didn't know how to socialise with someone that's socially manipulative. I agree that she probably didn't wanna be on the show at first, however I suspect she got paid for it and a chance to be on telly isn't that bad a deal. I thought the crew handled her pretty well actually.....that dude however, he got thrown under the bus like hot garbage.
So to be fair, if she had been emotionally mature enough to communicate like an adult with the person she was dating....none of that mishegoss would have occurred. Antisocial behaviours like "ghosting" someone is problematic in relationships and should be a red flag. The dude was (essentially) stalking her. That's why you always give them closure when you break up. 😞
I'm not saying she's entirely at fault, only that she was 50% of the problem there.
Than
@@cookiehawk yeah, at least catfish was much better compared to this..
Re-watching this video, you can SEE in Ross’s eyes that he thought Holly was going to choose to stay in contact. He only chose “ghost” to try and get her to beg him to come back. But she said “ghost” and you can see in his eyes “oh fuck”
even if the show is fake the message they’re sending is soooo bad wtf.
"are you a creepy incel who got dumped by a girl you liked even though you just talked shit about her? stalk her until she sits in a room with you and tell her she's an idiot for being traumatised by you!"
It's really telling. Whoever produced this is showing the way they think.
People love it tho sadly
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for real though, besides being a dumb show, Ghosted is a way for entitled and possibly harmful people to track down exes who had a right to leave them. Like imagine if someone ghosted a person because they started to not feel safe in the relationship, so they blocked them and ran in order to protect themselves. Then imagine that the person who was ghosted used this show to find them. Who knows what could happen after filming wraps.
this!!
yeah that’s lowkey rlly scary
that's exactly what i was thinking!!!!!! this can be so dangerous for people who were in abusive relationships
I heard its staged and they are paid actors
@@yaaassbitch8704 Ah I hope so!
The fact that they made the moral of this show “ghosting is bad” as opposed to “stalking is bad” is so telling. I don’t care that these shows are super poorly staged, why send this kind of message to viewers??
I was seeing red flags when he said he went behind her back to get her email after he was originally rejected
If they had the moral be "stalking is bad" then they'd have to admit that their own show is bad since it's built off of stalking someone lmao
the way they told her that she ‘learned her lesson’ when she didn’t do a single thing wrong. she was 100% the victim, not him, this is so disgusting
I refuse to believe that she still loved him. It HAS to be staged! Or maybe she just said that so she can kinda get him to ghost her so then he can feel like he was the rejecter and finally stop stalking her! I really hope it's staged
It IS staged. It's on fucking MTV!
Who’s here after Drew got nominated for the “Best White Guy Complaining” Award
This is probably gonna be the pinned comment
Me🤗
I’m here before that
LMAO
He got nominated but Danny won
This is SO abusive and disgusting. Can’t believe this gets aired 😬
@Ika Ayu why do you keep spamming this link into the comments?
@@toniseiler426 they r a bot
@@Hebiiiii1 yeah a pretty annoying one
@@Hebiiiii1 I was just playing botw when I saw your name
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I'm a tad bit upset that there aren't any actual ghosts on "Ghosted" ...
I came for the apparitions, not the drama.
YESSS FIRST TO VERIFIED DUDE
Edit: Though I do agree on the misleading title
Same! Those liars have taken it to far this time.
@@hector07.42 there's also a massive lack of proton packs & containment units.
What if they are people that hated the person they were dating so much that they killed themselves, then turned into ghosts and literally ghosted them? Then they have to do a crossover with a ghost hunting show to sit her down and ask her why she literally ghosted...
@@wolfhawk1999 now thats a show i would DEF watch!
Being bisexual has nothing to do with how much sexual experience you’ve had
someone tell half a virgin that 😩
Yeah, it just means you’re willing to do it with both parties. Stop trying to make bisexuality innocent.
@@Ellivation what does bisexuality have to do with innocence
@@funkytime69 because bisexual people maybe will have sex with someone they like and are in a secure relashionship?
So like the same as straight people, but now they don’t only want to form relashionships with people from just the opposite sex.
Okay, sure bud. We'll all pretend lifestyles are basically the same between heterosexuals and homosexuals.
As somebody who had to move to get away from a stalker, the whole concept of Ghosted is SO HORRIFYING
I ghosted the person I dated for 2 years because I got sick of the abuse and was genuinely terrified that I'd be killed if I ever went back or talked to her again. If I got tracked down and forced to talk to her, I don't think my mental health would be able to take it.
It's disgusting. And is messing up the minds of girls.
I also had a stalker and he kept bothering me on fb and its one of the reasons why i dont have any social media now other than yt and pinterest. I also ghosted someone ive been talking to for 7months,i just realized i dont like him he was weird af, says rude stuff and insulting without realizing it wtf,he acts like hes so smart
I saw a guy for 5 days & broke things off because he got manipulative and told me "I wasn't ready for a relationship" (??). He proceeded to call my phone numerous times and message me on different apps even after I told him he was scaring me, wait for me outside my uni hall of residence, death stare me & my friends whenever we were in the same eating hall/class, and told all his friends I was a whore. THEN came up to me at the uni ball (I didn't see him coming so that scared the shit out of me) and ask to dance??? I've moved cities and it's been almost 2 years but he's still blocked on everything. I'm scared to think what he would've done if we'd had a thing longer than a week...
There you are!!! Been looking all over for you. Mostly in the bushes outside your house.
Ok sorry thats not funny stalkers are f'ed up.
I feel like they don’t understand that “Catfished” works because catfishing is always a dick move, whereas ghosting is sometimes a dick move, but sometimes incredibly justified - and if it’s the second you aren’t going to find out until after you’ve already exposed somebody’s personal life and humiliated them on national television 😬😬😬
Ghosting is nowhere as bad as catfishing. People have reasons ☠️
yeah especially if you blocked someone.
@@jasmineprime7422 the only justifiable reason I can think of is you’re very self conscious and hate your identity so you decide to change it just for a little bit every day. You try to convince someone else that this charade you keep up is real. Then you break their heart because you’ve built a relationship with them through texting and you can’t expose your true personality and appearance.
@@jasmineprime7422 It's betraying someone's trust, lying and manipulation vs dodging potential danger, fear of confrontation and anxiety. You get the point ☠️
@@jasmineprime7422 Oh yeah I do agree. Both of them are terrible nonetheless. Although there's no valid reason for catfishing, ghosting has some. But then again, it's more common to be ghosted than catfished. Some people, if not in a danger situation should def give closure before parting ways cause *That. Shit. Hurts* lol.
scripted or not, this show is gross. the message it sends out is disgusting. if someone leaves you, you have to STALK them and find out why, even if it’s been wayyy too long since you’ve dated. poor girl
she was probably in her living room or something having a normal good day then all of a sudden her dms r blowing up and her phone is ringing just because these nosy tv producers want her to sit in a studio and talk about why she ghosted some loser and had sex a couple years ago
in front of a camera and to broadcast to a few thousand people (i refuse to believe more than like 20k people actually watch mtv more specifically watch this show)
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@Vilfredo Pareto ok
That girl was soft and has 0 sense of humor. He should be happy they broke up
Y
very weird how the cult girl called her girlfriend "a sister to share this with"
they didn't really acknowledge enough that HE is the a$$hole here. he went out of his way to get her email before they were dating, didn't tell her about his stand up shows because he was making fun of her behind her back, went out his way again to track her down when she decided she didn't want anything to do with him, and he still decided to blame HER for their break up. and they say chivalry is dead :/ even if this show is fake, what bothers me is that it ended with him thinking he's done everything right
right and they make it like she was the bad guy for ghosting someone who lied and made fun of her. ghosting isnt always bad
preech. This is so disgusting, for the show just romanticize that, and be like "but, but, we are the good guys, there's nothing wrong with stalking the person who ghosted you and exposing her without even contacting before and profit out of if" dang... Yikes, i just hope that this is scripted and fake....
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@@absolute-creature even if it's scripted that message is still horrible. "hey if someone you're interested in leaves you, why stop there? go GET your fairytale ending with this girl who voluntarily stopped responding to you 4 years ago!! we're gonna help you work the angles until we hook you lovebirds up for good!"
Yeah the whole episode was literally "we track down the girl who wants nothing to do with him and then make her cry on television"
can we talk about the fact that the guy said “she’s openly bisexual, and i’m half a virgin” as if those two things have ANYTHING to do with each other
literally- some people think that just cause they're bi that they sleep around and that they have double the experience , it's honestly gross
Obviously this means that dude wants to get pegged.
Yeah that's a really annoying thing people believe; 'bisexuals are sex fiends.'
She slept with the tinderella host after choosing "Brian" and then the main guy who she dated for six months, also he said she dated girls back to back so this has nothing to do with bisexuals she actually sleeps around a ton
that literally doesn't change that direct comparison he made, he could've said she's more sexually active and that he's half a virgin, her sexuallity is completely irrelevant to the subject + mentioning it at all when talking about how promiscuous someone is spreads false stereotypes that create more biphobia
as someone who has dealt with a stalker (we weren't even dating, we were just friends for 3 weeks) has every social media on private, has to block new accounts he has made for the past year, this show is disgusting and is justifying being a creepy asshole. he needs to move on. i hate that they tried to get them back together, it's showing creeps that if they keep up with harassment that the victim will forgive them, which isn't ok. ghosting is 100% ok. not wanting to talk to someone like that is ok.
Same. I had to "ghost" my ex cause they were an abusive dick, and they still tried stalking me for a year or two after the fact. Had to completely change my online identity just to get them to leave me alone. This shit isn't fun.
Having to block but still watch new accounts trying to contact you is the worst. Like i cannot even have a normal fucking life on social media withouth having a whole lot of anxiety of a creepy jerk trying to spam you with crap. Like i wish i could just act online as I want to, and not as i _have_ to for a creepy guy.
Thank god we're on different continents but last year i panicked so hard when i opened my personal email (For bank, school and serious stuff only) and found like 4 mails from different GMails but from the same 'stalker' (I don't know if to call him that because we used to be friends for like 7 or 8 months and ended up cutting ties with him for making me feel like shit) trying to gaslight me to talk to him and then cursing and insulting me to no end.
I had no memory of ever giving him that email, and it had my reall full name on it. I'm still so creeped out. Some months ago he found my new discord and messaged me acting like a different person.
Like i can't even know if who i'm talking to isn't him disguised. I genuinely can't trust making new friends or doing anything normal. It sickens me so much though i know it's not as bad as it could be.
@@Fumbann i go to the same school as the guy that’s harassing me and i have practically cut all ties with everyone there in fear they are friends with him trying to get to me. he found my phone number and gave it out to his friends and found my neighbors address and thinks it’s mine. it’s sick we can even relate on this, that there are so many people in the world that think and act this way that we have similar experiences.
@@kaatsuki7127 That is so terrible oh god. I'm so sorry that you have to go through that and in real life too. If it's possible it'd help so much if you change your phone number if you think it's getting dangerous,
I had to change mine around that time I got the creepy mails but for other coincidental reasons and I'm very glad I did. I hope you stay safe
@@Fumbann i might and i hope you are safe too. i’m so sorry that u go through that too. fuck mtv
dude seeing her cry just ripped my heart apart because i've been in a similar situation (with family) and i know that feeling of just betrayal and shame
“Half a virgin? ............... which half?”
I lost my MIND.
I hope you find it :C
Nice pfp :D
Did you check under the bed? Behind the couch? Where did you have it last? Have you tried retracing your steps?
@@Crithosceleg this is like the cutest, funniest and weirdest response I've seen in a while. I love it
i honestly wished in the ad he had said “I’m a world renowned half a chef”
I know this video is ostensibly comedy, but I am genuinely so pissed at Ross. This dude comes in acting like a meek victim of unfair heartbreak, blatantly misrepresents the context of the relationship, is _visibly ashamed_ when his disgusting "comedy" is exposed, and then _gets upset with Jordan for overreacting‽_ At least Jordan seemed happy in that last clip of her. Now I just hope the world joins me in never giving Ross another moment's thought ever.
I watched this whole episode, and what he was actually upset about was her not confronting him.
EDIT: I highly recommend watching the episode before this one: season 1 episode 1. They help two best friends reunite. It’s what I wish the whole show was like.
@@nickc3657 It’s not her job to tell him to be a better person?
@@nickc3657 he knew already the jokes were inappropriate and wildly hurtful, that's why he wouldn't tell her about the comedy shows. he had every opportunity to bring it up or change his material but he kept doing it for SIX MONTHS! obviously she didn't feel safe or comfortable enough to confront him about it, he probably would've made a "joke" about that too. it's literally entirely his fault
Ok, obviously I touched a nerve lol- I’m not defending Mr. Demi-virgin. Just trying to clear up a plot point based on what I remember from the show.
And he’s literally the ultimate soyboy
“she’s bisexual, and i’m half a virgin” damn well i’m bisexual,, and a full virgin 😖💔
preach
Lol same. This man was so gross
This is so sad 😰😢😢 get well soon 😔😪
Me too
me too pal 💔
I knew this dude was creepy from the beginning like they met because he stalked her. They made eye contact and suddenly he felt entitled to find her personal information so he can talk with her even though she clearly pick someone else. He then gets upset when he found out that she slept with some other guy before they even dated, he gives off major creepy stalker vibes. When he couldn’t stalk her anymore he then found a camera crew who would. This poor girl dodged a bullet by ghosting him, hope she doing well cause this whole thing is traumatizing
This guy seems to want everyone to believe the comedy was no big deal and that he didn't know it was gonna be offensive to her... but he went out of his way to hide it specifically from her? He knew what he was doing lmao
It reminds me of that spongebob ep where he made fun of squirrels
If he didn’t hide it from her then it may look more like he’s just dumb. The fact he hid it sows he knew wth he was doing.
Right! Abusive people almost always know what they are doing is reprehensible. That's why they always try so hard to trick their victims into thinking it's no big deal. "It was just a joke!" He said. But...who was the punchline???
Secrecy is a red flag! Abusive folks try to hide the heinous stuff they're doing that affects others. They don't want to face the consequences, secrecy helps them avoid responsibility!
So…he’s acting like he didn’t know that the comedy would be offensive to her but he specifically went out of his way to hide it from her? How does that make sense?
no he had to have known what he was doing
Bad writing on a fake show lol
@@chrish4439 its sadly real lmao
cognitive dissonance
This is probably staged but that doesn't change the fact that people like these exist. People who have suffered having a toxic stalker, people who think stalking and harassing their crush will make them fall in love with them. This show is portraying horrible and toxic real life situations but instead of denouncing them it excuses them and makes them seem innocent and romantic. It's disgusting.
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Agreed
i like your pfp!!
i've seen it first hand! my mom had to get restraining order against her ex.
why the hell did 3 spamers target your comment, lol
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I love how upset the producers looks like "OMG the girl doesn't want to be in a toxic relationship????" and the guy just looks like doesn't understand what a toxic relationship is.
his "comedy" wasn't even funny at all, he literally tracked her down, when she OBVIOUSLY wanted *nothing* to do with him, and made her sit through that again. what a trash show, honestly.
@Ika Ayu what.
ok so i love your profile picture
@@neptoons3223 its spam. Report it
@@Fresh_Biscuits oh
It's MTV. Trash shows are what they do now
this show is so annoying because people will actually go on a HUNT for someone who obviously doesn’t wanna talk to them. i would be creeped out.
I know. I actually thought it was illegal
not to mention, they were literally guilttripping her over the phone to get her to go talk
Yea but also you would be a grown adult who can say "no" and move on
@@ghostly7139 lots of women have self confidence issues or have trouble saying no. Plus, it's easy to say "she could've just said no" when you're a outsider looking in.
"I made disrespectful jokes about her and now I gaslight her for being mad about it but idk why she doesn't like me anymore"
'and i went out of my way to hide those jokes from her bc i knew she wouldn't like it so i don't get why she doesn't like me doing it now'
Ikr
It's a total mystery.
she's way too dramatic about it though. Like this must be extremely fake. Ok in the moment you could feel hurt or even break up, but 9+ months later and this girl has moved on and has a relationship but she's still crying? About what? Because a guy exposed her daddy kink????? ????
@@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII That itself is a insensitive thing to say. She was already going through quite a bit and she could be a very sensitive person. I myself know what it is like for people to make jokes about you about things you told them personally to others. Even if your name isn't told or anything, it still hurts, especially if you have dealt with things like bullying, loss, etc.
as someone who had a stalker and finally broke free, if a random number claiming started calling me and all of my friends asking about me i’d be terrified.
This is a terrible idea.
To say the least
@Vilfredo Pareto its creepy and awkward
@Vilfredo Pareto whats the benefit of putting effort on something people will dislike anyway
Yep
@Vilfredo Pareto Can’t argue with that since the economy supports these bad shows
This man didn’t miss her at all. His ego was so bruised when she ghosted him that he just needed to see her again to see that he can get her back and be the one to reject her. What a manipulative insecure freak lmao
that’s exactly what happened, he really is disgusting. 🤢
I don't think that's particularly true, he seems like a somewhat genuine guy that did really like her, but at the same time I get that the jokes weren't taken well... However, when I have friends who make jokes about me I don't leave them forever, I go to them and communicate with them, if they do it again then okay fair, she just straight ghosted him, didn't even give him a chance to apologize cuz her ego was bruised. Have you heard the shit Kevin Hart or Gabriel Iglesias says about their love lives, they said much worst jokes. Especially kevin about how freaky women he's dealt with are.
she's just too sensitive, which isn't necessarily bad but she should have been mature enough to atleast communicate with him, rather than secretly go to his show to hear one bad joke, that's like me secretly going to my gf work place and hearing her say something bad about me so I dump her, it's stupid cuz I guarantee every person you been with had had thought atleast one bad thing about you.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 yep, it’s the woman that needed to learn communication and be more mature, and it’s the woman whose ego was bruised and was too sensitive. Not the guy who knowingly made shitty and toxic stand up jokes behind his partner’s back, and then berated her for getting mad at him for it. Not the guy who tracked down his ex months after the relationship had ended, when she was already in another relationship and more time had passed since they’d been together than when they’d actually been together. Not the guy who thinks he can still be the comforting white knight, saying “it’s ok” to his crying ex after he tracked her down, made her confess her personal life in the spotlight, and then rejected her immediately after.
It’s probably mostly fake anyway, because I can’t imagine she would actually still love the guy after all of this shit, so this argument is likely pointless. However, if we’re really going to moralize these people and analyze them, one is clearly more flawed than the other.
@@macknight2352 @Mac Knight nah I'm not saying the guy wasn't shitty himself, he def could have been more mature, and not be a stalker. I just feel like it's all being put on the guy becuz he's clearly more flawed and has bad way of doing things, while we are overlooking what the women could have done better.
Just put it into perspective, the jokes he made was about her freakiness, nothing was about her having dad issues or her personal baggage, just jokes he most likely thought would be relatable, and to be fair when he said thanks for the pta for the girls I do want, yeah that was honestly a part that bothered me, but it is stand up, you don't watch Kevin Hart and think those stories are the real him, you know they are a bit exaggerating to be more funny, you know he's partly in there but you know you can't base all his intentions off his jokes, so I get why she lost her trust at that part, but if he really wanted other girls he wouldn't have cared when she dumped him, you don't care about closure if you don't like the women.
Look I ain't tryna make an argument out of this just giving a different perspective, we don't have to agree with eachother but all I'm saying is that guy is flawed and he needs to work on himself, but she definitely is just as flawed and she expects a guy to accept all her baggage, which is how it should be, but as soon as he makes one fuck up, she doesn't even try to accept his and give a chance, she just goes instantly to blocking which is petty becuz you know she did that to make him feel some type cuz she felt some type herself. And then she's crying cuz a man said she's too freaky, get over it, if your crying cuz someone said that, you most likely are, and even if not, why do you honestly care?
@@akkoismydaughter3573 if somebody talks about you behind your back, you have no obligation to "hear them out". She didn't attack or try to argue with him, she exited a situation and relationship she didn't want to be in. It's not her fault he couldn't let go after ALMOST A YEAR. if you want to forgive someone that's your choice, but don't blame someone for not putting up with toxic behavior.
This is literally a nightmare. Like yes it sucks to get ghosted but I'd rather move on than stalk and harass someone who ghosted me
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exactly!! like yeah being ghosted sucks, especially if you've had time & a bond to get invested in that person. but more time can heal almost anything, and if the alternative to moving on with one's life is essentially getting an entire cast & crew to "pursue" (harass) a past infatuation so you learn why they left you, that's super pathetic. why would anyone even WANT to go through all that for a bond with a person they KNOW doesn't want them? and even worse, who the hell would want to be on a show basically geared towards overly clingy people with no dignity? have some pride, folks. rant over lmao
Why are so many ppl jus replying with a link and no context... im not clicking on them just like that
@@PakuZero its most likely self-promotion or just a bot
@@ChimmneyMan Nope, They were some weird damn videos like a cooking video filmed like a powerpoint and some weird alien elf woman.
The "Its okay.. i want to give her a hug now" sent me into fight or flight mode
Edit: plus imagine getting over a toxic ex and learning that you're stronger than that, just for two hosts to tell you "hey! No no no. You bad person for that." Circus behaviour
that man literally tried to make himself a victim yet HE treated her like shit i’m so annoyed
so disgusting...anyways twice world domination 💙
just the response of “it was a joke ohmygod” made me wanna dropkick him.
Oh my God why are you being so mean to me, all I did was make jokes at your expense without consulting you, then intentionally tried to hide it from you, and then finally stalked you for months after you broke up with me.
Classic gaslighting
When they FaceTime her at the end she basically says “ya I learned that vulnerability is something that will do nothing but hurt me and from now on I will put up walls that will limit all my future relationships:)” like girl they HURT her
Yeah, they actually try to shame her for doing the right thing and cutting a toxic little shit out of her life.
Bruh that type of thinking is toxic, that mindset isn't gonna work becuz relationships are all about trust, I get why she feels like that though she didn't want a guy making sex jokes about her but vulnerability is something that hurts us all, it's part of being in a relationship, you know your risking getting hurt Everytime you get in a relationship
nothing wrong with ghosting tbh,it could be healthier to avoid than to confront,who knows what he would have done/said to her.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 those of us who have been hurt repeatedly are aware of that.
We also know that trusting has gotten us hurt and that it will keep happening if we continue doing what we're doing.
I have the same mindset as this woman. I keep others at a distance until they earn my trust, and that is not easy.
If I try to change and be more trusting and get hurt again, I will go into a very dark place mentally. The past few years have been very hard for me and my family and I've had to fight to keep myself together so I can earn a living and support us, rather than have a breakdown.
I am not going to change. This is what works for me. If someone doesn't want to put in time and work to get me to trust them, they can look for someone who's had an easier life.
@@janeeyre1990 First of all, I get where your coming from cuz there aren't many you can trust nowadays, and you should never fully trust somebody, atleast not until you seen their best and worst. At the same time, never let horrible men of your past change how you treat the men of your future.
There ain't nothing wrong with keeping your distance from people you invest in, but do you want someone to be in a relationship with the fake you or real you. You can't build with someone if you don't know what type of wood they are using. If you want someone to accept you for who you are, how are they gonna do that if they don't know what makes you who you are. At some point your gonna have to tell them who you are... It's fine if it takes a while, infact it should, it shouldn't have to be that you automatically trust your partner in the beginning unless your good friends
Had she not told him anything those jokes on sexuality he made probably still would have been said, and she'd still be offended but have no right to feel offended then. But rather he'd say it again or not, shouldn't matter. I highly doubt he made those jokes to take advantage of her vulnerability. She says she learned to put walls up but it's all becuz of jokes he made about her being freaky, not about her being sexually harassed. Her putting walls up was clearly out of emotions. Nothing wrong with emotions but it can't be the driving force out of reaction
This guy is so disgusting I can’t even enjoy the cringe. And the way the show made it seem like it was her fault for her life being intruded upon because she ghosted an abuser is awful.
Exactly I have no idea why she's with this goblin
I agree, but can we not throw around the word abuser? He's definitely a huge creep and pretty manipulative, but he never "abused" her. Not trying to start anything, I just think that's a really loaded word for some dude who was just a creepy douchebag.
@@bbygirlx31 isn’t mental abuse a thing?
@@bbygirlx31 are you seriously trying to act like emotional and mental abuse don't exist??
@@bbygirlx31 I mean, I would consider stalking and gaslighting to be abusive. He lied to her about his career so he could belittle her to an audience and then made it into something she did wrong when she rightfully cut him out of her life.
11:55 "hey let's move away from these cameras and move over here by some other cameras"
🤣
jesus this show is the worst, why did they think this was a good idea??
I don’t know either. Some people are seriously fucked up.
its not real, they're actors
White guy complains is bad!?
Because they want shows that people will watch, no matter the ethics or quality. And it has clearly worked...
@@Rafael-kr6zv Doesn't matter if they're actors. People will watch this and think this shit is okay. It's fucking deplorable.
"are you telling me I made jokes at your expense and gaslighted you afterwards and you're like...not offering to make it better? Nvm I don't wanna date you anymore" -the half virgin
That's not what gaslighting means at all. He hid the jokes from her in the first place and didn't even know she knew about them until later. That's not even remotely like gaslighting.
Just to head off the possible misinterpretation: just because it's not gaslighting doesn't make it okay, obviously.
@@TheTheValer he acted like it was completely fine and tried to mak her feel like she was blowing it out of proportion by getting reasonably upset...how is that not gaslighting
lmao right?!
Twitter leftists arent at all prepared for the coming wave of cottage core moodboard making tik tok ecofascist racist e-girls but thats not a conversation anyone wants to have.
ah, so he sexually objectified her infront of a crowd without her consent and then tried to gaslight her after she had justifiably cut him out of her life?? very nice very cool, i love it here
And for some reason she still kinda loved him???? Did not expect her to say that
@@purplexerox827 That's why I assume it's prolly fake lmao. This is the textbook definition of movie relationships
Have yah not seen Kevin Hart, he made literally the same jokes about his wife being too sexual and how women are way too freaky.
Nah but honestly his jokes were bad but this is about her not communicating, you shouldn't expect a man to be able to read your mind or your feelings, I can't stand women who get emotional but don't tell you why and expect you to know what not to do. That's like you saying something I don't like, instead of telling you not to do that, I ignore you, your gonna do it again most likely cuz you don't know why I'm ignoring you
@@akkoismydaughter3573 Those jokes were his fault. If somebody cheats on me for example, I'm out of there. I don't need to explain why I'm leaving if I have a good reason. If my partner gets involved with bad shit that I don't wanna be apart of, I'm out of there. You are not entitled to an explanation as to why your partner no longer wants to be involved with you if you have done something like this. The lack of communication was his fault, not hers. She left for a good reason, he made those jokes because he thought it was funny to put someone's intimate life on blast without permission. Also Kevin Hart is a misogynistic homophobic little bitch, so that's a stupid comparison anyway lmfao
12:08 I wanna know how many takes these reactions from Drew took. The perfect amount of incredulity, the right volume, the precise tonal cracking. It's beautiful, really.
"I'm not giving up" aka "I'm a creep and a stalker who you would never want to interact with ever". Guys, learn to take a no.
Same to woman, and non binary people, and intersex people, and literally every other f***ing person, don’t generalize men like an asshole
@@lederp7151 yeah but the common trope is "man gets rejected but he keeps persuing her until she eventually gives in because he loves her!!! Happy ever after !1!!1!"
Also intersex people aren't a gender
@@user-nw3ol7fk1i Shit sorry I confused sex with gender for a moment, but also so what if that’s the common trope, the person creating the comment is still being sexist either way and that’s going to be my final opinion as it’s been three weeks and they didn’t even simply try to clear things up.
@Le Derp
men are societally encouraged to buy into that “don’t give up” stuff. when women/non-men are socially pushed into doing that, then you’ll have a point
@@SM-yz4hi Wow, so you’re saying you support, how nice
Him being upset bc "it's just a joke" pisses me off. Like, dude, there's a reason you hid your stand up from her. You knew she'd be upset about you making jokes about her trauma and personal life. She was so out of his league too. Like, my guy, get your priorities straight.
Leagues dont exist thats just a stereotype
@@spacechimp751 no. she was out of his league.
Are they a social construct? Yeah, and in my opinion, she was out of his league.
i know she seems amazing he was lucky to ever have her and he fucked it up by being a massive douche lol
yess
Who exactly would be in this guy's league?
“she’s openly bisexual I’m half a virgin” bro being bisexual isn’t synonymous with sleeping around or being experienced c’mon now you coulda just said that instead
Omg I thought I was the only person to catch that and I felt crazy
Right?? I thought that was such a creepy and lowkey misogynistic thing to say. Especially considering the jokes he made about her.
I didn't even notice the biphobia in that statement 🤢
i was shocked bc this sounded like early 2000's branded biphobia like??? this guy is such a jerk.
yeah that’s what i was thinking-
his bio said "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade :)" like i wonder WHY she didn't pick you. what a catch he is
I’m more offended of the fact that the jokes weren’t even funny. There are some comedians who make jokes like that but in a clever and funny way.
Also they ask first because they're not terrible human beings.
he's literally just going "eeyyyy my grilfriend 69???? ain't that wacky????" is he 12
The whole thing is fake
@@I_love_dr_stone lmao exactly, it was like "so i have this gf and man... she's crazy in bed haHaahaAhHAHAahahaHAhHAHa...........wild" like.. okay, thanks for the story about your sex life? WHERE'S THE JOKE?
I totally agree but honestly in my opinion she didn’t really have much to be mad about. I expected him to call her a skank or something. The guy is still a massive creep, but I don’t necessarily think bad comedy is a reason to ghost somebody
“It’s a joke” that is the ultimate death sentence
This is the ultimate sign of poor social skills
100000% chance of making someone even angrier at you lmao
That's the, "I take zero accountability for my actions and I don't care to understand how my actions affected you", statement.
The incels' go to line when all else fails
"Catfish" is way much more entertaining tbh. Cuz like "catfish" is like- the person they track down kinda deserved it but these poor ppl in "ghosted" have delt with these toxic ass ppl and just wanted to get away but they're forced to sit with the person that caused their trauma and also get stalked which is- wow the biggest cherry ontop
Well, coming from someone who's been ghosted and still is by that person, it feels bad obviously when someone you really care about abandons you, (when you're not a weird person like my half virgin friens over here), for normal people like us, say for example with me, my friend of 3 years just started ghosting me, obviously I'm gonna feel guilty and responsible when it might not even be a me problem, or at least thats what some mutual friends have told me, and im gonna want answers as to why this happened, obviously im not gonna stalk them but its gonna take a mental toll on me
@@ronaldromero7364 well yeah I've been ghosted and blocked by ppl without knowing why but that's their choice, that's what they did to benefit themselves I'd rather move on then be selfish and force them to tell me exactly why they distanced themself from me
@@Leoji0325 i get that, obviously we wanna know but we're not gonna pressure them into talking, what im trynna say is, you could see why some people might start to get toxic over it
@@ratxstatus lmaooo wassup 😂
@@Leoji0325 I agree with you wholeheartedly. It fricken hurts to be ghosted, and there’s obviously curiosity about why they did it. but it’s not like I’m gonna get a PI and stalk them to find out
His telling the show crew that he was "half a virgin" while she's an "open bisexual" is like... ew. Firstly being bisexual doesn't mean you're experienced. Secondly being sexually experiences doesn't mean you're a bad person as he repeatedly implies. Thirdly he should not have shared this information about her on tv.
EXACTLY, I’m SO disappointed people are still like, BisExuals are untrustworthy, Thats so gross to say, It literally just means we’re attracted to all genders, IM BI AND 20 YEARS OLD AND IVE NEVER EVEN HAD MY FIRST KISS😭
This is a great show for abusers to find a final way to victimize their exes lol
it's probably fake but the message of the show is still fucking stupid
Oh yeah fuck those people who want to find closure. The uncaring immature "adults" who can't communicate their feelings and just abandon around 1% (0.8 out of 80 years) of their life they spend on a relationship because they felt extra sad are the real victims!
@@InterDylan I’m not sure how you made all those leaps and bounds from my comment lol but it’s nobody’s job to provide closure for anybody else. If someone doesn’t want to be in your life, you need to figure out a way to get over it.
@@catsoflasagna If she spend that long in an relationship or any boyfriend/girlfriend relationship she has an obligation to that person to do that yes. If she is to be a decent person she should ATLEAST say goodbye (like she didn't even say it by text, how disrespectful can you be?)
@@InterDylan she doesn't have to. If you're so awful that someone decides to cut you out of their life they don't owe you an explanation or goodbye.
this show isn’t just awkward...it’s freaking creepy
thank you dwight from the hit show "The Office"
thai means a lot coming from your profile picture
"She's openly bisexual and I'm half a virgin still" Those things aren't like .... opposites tho
Right I was waiting to see someone say this. He confidently said those two things as if they're at all related 🙄
Ikr and I'm both.
Fr, a bad boyfriend and biphobic 😔
i know... it’s like implying all bisexuals are promiscuous... ://
When bae has blond hair but I have blue eyes 😢
i know this is an older video, but i can't stand the way people like him go "seriously, _that's_ why you're upset?" or "it's not that serious"
like, no! you don't get to choose whether or not you hurt someone, that's not your thing to decide! like it can be the dumbest thing to you but it doesn't matter, you can't just un-upset someone
I get upset about the stupidest things. I feel so validated by your comment. Thank you
As much I like Drew’s content, the show is so gross and uncomfortable that this one was genuinely hard to sit through. I hope Jordan is doing okay.
Honestly, I think it was faked, at least partly. Why would she agree to come on the show? Why would she still love him?
@@wheeliebin1791 I’m sure it was partially scripted, but the message that the show puts out is so uncomfy regardless of whether it’s real or not. Actually, if they did script the ending, the fact that they manipulated the truth for the sake of excusing a toxic relationship (like “she still loves him so it’s okay and she shouldn’t have left”) is almost even worse.
@@wheeliebin1791 i feel like its even nastier if its scripted, like imagine scripting out such a disturbing guy and such an uncomfortable situation.
It's a cringefest. That's it. Not dangerous or normalizing anything it's just a stupid show. Why is everyone being so dramatic god damn you're soft
@@nomirakuru please leave. if you can’t understand why this is terrible then this isn’t the video for you. no one engage with this person
The way he said that shes "fully bisexual" whiles hes half a virgin. As if being LGBT is like a high level sex act or something. Bruh I was bi when I was a virgin, smh.
I hated him the second he opened his mouth and said those words 🙄🙄🙄
Trying to understand the logic in this is stunting my brain growth.
@@Deg40000 my logic or his??
@@evat267 his logic
@@rosieandre6121 (coming from a bisexual) correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t pan/poly/omnisexuals technically bisexual as well? Like they’re more specific terms the same way that agender/genderfluid/bigender/other are all part of the non-binary and transgender umbrella terms. So then obviously it’s totally fine for you to just say you’re bi as well, even if you know you are more specifically omni.
Also, slightly unrelated but can you describe your own definition of omnisexuality? I’ve only heard one other person’s experience before and I’m curious just how universal that was (so I can THEN see how accurate my own definition is! C: )
This shit is one of the reasons why some women won’t leave their abusers. The fear of being stalked and harassed by your ex is so real and so scary, this entire concept makes me furious
It disgusts me too, no means no and they need to understand that.
While what you say is true, I don't, for one second, believe this is not entirely scripted.
@@benjones7634 True although I still think even so the show is damaging for probably making some men and women and teenagers think that she was in the wrong and that if they were in that situation it would be wrong to ghost the other person which isn’t true because he clearly crossed boundaries and disrespected her
There's a fucking blockbuster movie about this
@@yokloj1503 for sure. The guy is a complete turd.
"It was just a joke though" I bet that guy would lose his shit if someone made a joke about his squeaky voice though
Ok can we talk about the fact that he compared her being openly bisexual to him being "half a virgin still" like her being bi has ANYTHING to do with her amount sexual activity
Lol. I was actually trying to figure out how one can only half a virgin.
@@1993Southparkfan I don't need sleep, I need answers
Its pretty funny if you're both bi, otherwise its just confusing...like I though he was also bi and that was thr joke but nooope.
right, as a bisexual virgin that was annoying to me haha
@@elias306 kcsmxmaxk same I was like "what is happening in here on this day"
"its okay" said the person who made the woman cried and be miserable, thinking it wasn't him
Him wanting to give her a hug was openly also out of line, she was hurt by him so why would she want him to hug her?
I doubt she's miserable becuz of this, if your that sensitive that you are miserable becuz someone said something about you you didn't like, then you are too sensitive, it's different if he keeps doing it but if he only said it once and your miserable, you need more emotional maturity, cuz people will always have something to say about you you won't like, should you cry Everytime they do? Obviously not and I doubt she always does.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 u sound just like my mom. Everytime I cry about something that actually bothers me the only thing she says u shouldn't be so sensitive.
@@akkoismydaughter3573 He didn't just "say something about her she didn't like one time."
He MADE FUN OF HER ON STAGE IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF PEOPLE AS PART OF A STAND-UP ROUTINE THAT HE WROTE AND PLANNED OUT.
This is like comparing someone who threw out your t-shirt to someone who shreds ALL your clothes!
@@akkoismydaughter3573 you sound like my dad lol, invalidating peoples feelings
It gave me war flashbacks to my failed marriage when he said “It’s okay,” immediately after he gaslit her and invalidated her hurt feelings. And you just knoowww he felt like he was being so gentlemanly and comforting her, after kindly informing her that what HE’D suffered so much over, her reason to feel hurt wasn’t actually a big deal.
I’d be crying because my ex said something really mean about me and then he’d hit me with the dead fish arms hug and “It’s okay.” Like, what’s okay?!?! What you said???
I've been there. I hope you are in a better place with your relationships and self love now 💙
Damn
I've never been in a relationship but here have some hugs
Virtual hugs
Going through it now, thank you for telling me I’m not alone 💕
Same feeling, I heard him say it's okay and all I could think was "You did the thing! You don't determine if it was okay! Even if you were somehow right you still don't say that! " creepy and manipulative and downright foolish as well
I had a boyfriend (only lasted for two months out of the 2 years we talked) who always made himself seem like the victim. the last straw I had was when he was acting like the victim after basically harassing multiple people (my friends and including me) and being so weird. there is a lot more detail which I won’t get into, but the most important part is he still does not know what he did wrong in this scenario. I can’t imagine how many times I turned on my friends just believing his word saying he was the victim without going further into detail. I’m so glad I haven’t talked to him since last year.
If I were the hosts, I would've stopped him the moment he said they locked eyes and he found her email. Straight up stalker. Not to mention he says she literally picked someone else.
this!!!!
Like so many people in the comments are saying, this show promotes so many bad ideas. Even if it is all scripted, it's NOT okay to behave the way these people are. If someone blocks them then it means something. These people seem so creepy and this being a TV show normalizes this kind of stuff and gives creeps ammo to say, "Hey, this is in a TV show on MTV, so it must be OK tk act this way right? I can just track someone down if they try to avoid me right?"
Maybe they wanna,know why they were blocked. U don't understand kuz u never been thru stuff like that
Exactly. I'm really glad the majority of these comments understand this.
@@GTRRSS Hey, I've been ghosted multiple times. Yes, sometimes I really want to know why. Sometimes it eats me up inside for a long time. But I don't stalk the person for months and find ways to track them and their friends down to get personal information on them and force them to talk to me.
Why don't I do that?
Because it's creepy and invasive, I'm not a stalker, and even though I think ghosting is super rude, I respect the person enough not to do all that stuff to them.
@@imzabatch honestly its just a shitty situation either way you go about it tbh
Yeah at least on catfish there's some reasoning behind it, and and its usually a current relationship built on a lie vs tracking down an ex 🤦🏽
I love how people think just because somebody is bi means they’re a sex god
I am living fucking proof that is not true
I am the living fucking proof that's actually true.
I am living fucking proof of being half a virgin so it's half true.
He could have outed her too. Which in some cases can put her career, relationships, and life in danger.
@@beck9238 well he said openly so im assuming there was no outing
CAN YOU IMAGINE YOU TAKING A BREAK FROM LIKE YOUR SOCIALS AND STUFF AND THEN THESE MTV HOSTS SHOW UP AT YOUR DOOR AND TAKE YOU TO A WAREHOUSE FOR INTERROGATION??
Just so everyone knows, it is completely okay to ghost someone if they are manipulating you, abusing you, or exhibiting toxic behaviors. You are not obligated to “talk it out” with someone who won’t listen to you.
yeah even if they are just a friend. toxic friends can be just as bad as toxic partners. from personal experience.
@@ElliJelliZ Very true. I stuck with a friend for years before I started to realize he was gaslighting me and sending hidden homophobic remarks my way. Then he just proceeded to deny everything once I told him we couldn’t be friends anymore.
@@strawberry_sapphic5007 I had a friend who was a bit creepy towards me for a while but I always justified it as a joke even though it made me uncomfortable. he moved to another state, and after getting some distance, i sorta realized he wasn't all that great. some of my friends started telling me stuff about him that made them angry or uncomfortable, so finally I just cut ties. he told me on a phone call that he used to have a crush on me, but i definitely dodged a bullet considering how he treated his girlfriend at the time.
Unless they are abusing you, you shouldn't just ghost them. You should send a text or email at least letting them know why you are ending the relationship. People should be told what they are doing wrong. Otherwise they just start female hating or man hating and treating their future partners even worse.
@@jennam2449 I understand where you are coming from, and i get exactly what you mean. I was not being abused by this person, My relationship could not be counted as abuse in any legal sense, but he had very abusive tendencies, and he treated a lot of people like garbage for no reason. and he always had a way of taking criticism VERY personally. I don't handle confrontation very well, so i was not sure what to do, but by this point he had moved to another state and he did not go to my school anymore. I know i probably should have given him some sort of explanation, but i was very scared of what he would do, or how he would react. I completely understand where you are coming from, and i know some people are ghosted for bad reasons, or their actions are misinterpreted, but he was really off, and i genuinely just was not sure how to handle this, being a minor at the time.
this dude is the definition of “nice guys” and why no one wants to date the “nice guy”
oh 100 percent
Ross gives off big "I'm attracted to her and therefore am entitled to her eternal love" vibes
Okay, but like, what they did with pressuring Jordan, _who was now in a different relationship,_ to make her talk to her ex that she clearly didn't wanna talk too. Something seems so wrong about it.
Edit: Also, how did the hosts of the show _know_ Ross had a stand-up comedy career, but _didn't know_ his jokes were centered around making fun of his girlfriend?
Everything seems wrong
Its wrong because it intrudes on her privacy and her agency. Her boundaries.
Because the show is staged lmao. You think the execs at MTV would actually put in the time, effort and money to get everyone on board and for everyone to sign waivers?
@@jerrell1169 Even if its staged
It sure doesn't send a healthy message and can have real life consequences. Because it just reinforces biases.
Oh and stalkers.
Lets not forget they exist.
This comment💯
Tbh if my girlfriend disappeared without a trace I probably would try to make sure she didn't get murdered or anything, but as soon as I found out she's alive I would stop there and respect her decision