it’s fucked. it’s genuinely fucked. could go on for hours, but i think this is a pretty relevant quote that applies to the situation. “The devil doesn’t come to you in a red cape and horns, he comes to you with everything you ever wished for and dreamed of.”
Hit the nail on the head! I actually feel bad for them. Paying the mortgage on a 14 million dollar house as a teenager? What happens when the money dries up?
The parents are so greedy to put their children through this. Wtf would they buy such expensive house and why would they hire such demanding managers? And the fact that they inserted themselves into these reality shows? Let your daughters live their lives a little. Its not healthy, the parents are not being parents
@@amandafaries5474 Blows my mind how so many people who run into money don't do what it takes to ensure that money grows in the future. Even in my dumb 25 year old head, the second I ran into money I immediately started thinking how to ensure the money can be multiplied and maybe one day take care of my future children. Nobody knows how long the money will last, so why not take the steps to make it generational if you can?
The D'amelio parents are so odd to me. They seem to be okay with throwing the financial burden on their children, despite witnessing Dixie and Charlie have panic attacks over the very thing that supplies the family's money. Have they ever tried to steer their children away from fame? Or have they accepted, or even encouraged, all the fame and opportunity? Do they even truly register what they're doing to their children?
Exactly my feeling and I also think that maybe if they had left it alone and left Charli and Dixie to continue making tiktoks with dances and things without the pressure of a music career, books, brand deals and Hulu tv shows (????) then maybe the girls (because they are children) wouldn’t face such pressure. Obviously there would be some pressure with such a large audience and some may argue that they want to do these things but seeing how stressed and emotionally tired they are sort of suggests this isn’t the case and they’re being told they want to do these things by management bought for them by their parents. I don’t know if this tv show was the best idea given the bad light it’s put their parents under.
there are actually scenes in the last couple episodes where heidi calls the guy who plans charli's calendar to clear up a week so that she can have a break, so that charli can improve on her mental health. so yes, her parents do have an impact however her parents do still care about her and stuff
@@jazzhutch one week, after planning a whole year jam packed with stuff that is overwhelming her and honestly we don’t know she even wants. Sure a break is good, but going a week without anything then diving back to an overpacked schedule won’t help. She needs to remove some of that weight, not just take the entire weight off for a week only to pack it all back on after that. Granted I don’t know these people, none of us do but I wonder if they’ve ever really sat down with their daughters and asked if they want to do all of this, what exactly they want and to reassure there is not pressure for them to continue this just to pay the bills because that should NEVER be the child’s responsibility.
Money can turn any angel to the most disobedient demon. EXTREMELY few parents would be like: "We don't need that money, all we need is you". Especially not in a country like the US.
That happens as often than you think, heck when 80s pop star Tiffany’s career took off she talked about how her stepfather gleefully quit his job because she was the breadwinner in the family
It's also the idea of if your kid has the chance to do something they "like at the start" that makes them enough money they won't ever have to worry and possible a career they enjoy. A lot of parents would think if I was my kid I'd want my parent to push me to do this cause it's the best "chance" in life for them to make it. Not saying it's okay for parents to do such things, but it's more understandable when you think about it.
I don't care if my child makes millions I will not put them in the position of breadwinner responsible for our financial situation. I don't care if they're 40, make three times my pay, and live in a mansion, when they see me I'm going to slip $10 into their pocket and packing them leftovers because in my heart they'll always be my baby.
Yeah seriously. I've never watched anything that any of them have ever been on or made but I get the sense from headlines and commentary like this that the parents are completely sucked in to the girls' fame and haven't stopped to think about the fact that their kids are kids. They're not full grown adults with autonomy and complete critical thinking skills. The girls deserve a say and to make choices on their own but at the same time, they can't possible see how bad this in full. I don't think the parents evil but definitely neglectful
I feel like the parents are a lot to blame, they are burdening them financially with that 14 million dollar house and other life style choices, which are not necessary
It's horrible that they bought that huge mansion when they financially depend on kids to pay it off. They definitely bit off more than they could chew.
Exactly. The fact that they could've just let their kids be kids and let them deal with the fame in their own way (Charli could've sought out brand deals/sponsors on her own, or she might not have wanted to do other things at all and is content with making tiktoks), but instead they started immediately capitalizing off of it, knowing their kids would probably heed their advice because they're the parents. At a certain point, what is the line between letting your kids have fun on tiktok and forcing them to do brand deals/make tiktoks in order to support your family financially? It's just such a stupid decision regardless.
@@meixuanler3535 the worst part is that the parents joined tiktok when they saw that their two kids had millions of followers. You can tell that the parents only care about money and retiring early.
Yeah, they’re the adults they should know better. Put the money in trust accounts and IRAs, maybe invest some of it. Also they should probably do a better job of establishing boundaries with, and protecting the girls from, the managers and other show biz parasites. Idk their life but the parents’ choices don’t look great
Really appreciate how you didn't just go "show bad, sisters dumb," It's nice to see someone with some perspective and compassion instead of just taking an easy dunk
Also some fairly relevant perspective. Drew probably dealt with a lot of this (one a much smaller scale) being propelled to Vine fame at, what... 20? 21? Dude sounds like he is empathizing from very real experience.
@@justsomegirlwithamustache6840 like the point is not whether that's badass or not. She got so famous that people are even predicting her death, dont u realize how sick that is especially for a teenager ?
It really broke my heart for her when I saw the clip of her talking about her therapist. How she was unloading all this very real mental health issues she was experiencing because she was famous, only to have her therapist say something along the lines of “well my kids love you!” Like… hell no. I hope she can get a different therapist who actually works with her like she’s a normal teenager instead of a golden idol who’s supposed to be robotically happy at all times.
she should go to a psychiatrist, therapists are variable and most of them suck ass. I bounced from 2 therapists until I finally went to a psychiatrist who was way more expensive but honestly, the best decision i ever made
To touch on the psychologist vs psychiatrist debate- if you have the means, see both regularly. Psychologists in a general sense are there to hear you out and help you work through your issues in practical ways, psychiatrists are there to prescribe medication if/when they deem fit. Both avenues are helpful when working through mental and emotional issues. Similar to how physical therapy and pain medication help people get heal a broken bone.
yeah the more I think about it like...it's unethical. It never really goes well. Like you're literally still developing your identity and literal brain yet held to a standard where people look up to you and expect you to be perfect
Wow, imagine being 17, and uttering the sentence "millions of people were sad because they wanted me to die, but I didn't" is just a normal thing for you
I literally had to pause like…..shit man. At 16 I was breaking down in the school bathroom bc I got a bad grade. I couldn’t have handled that comment then (or even now at 22 for that matter). But it’s like, the fact that she was so stoic about it is so heartbreaking ugh
Yeah I remember when that TH-cam channel predicted her death back in march and that channel had actually predicted some ppls deaths before and was right so ppl were certain Charli was gonna die on that date. And I checked the comments and ppl were so happy that she was gonna die? And when she didn't they were disappointed
This is what so many people in these comments don't seem to get. Like, yeah charli isn't a destitute starving child in some warzone, but daily death threats and hate and parental pressure are part of HER reality and it's hard for HER. It would be fucking hard for me too if any of that happened to me now as a full adult.
The parents are responsible for a lot of this. Even though their parents had little control over the two of them getting so famous, they are the ones who bought the $14 million house, took them on that trip to the Bahamas, hired the managers, and pushed them to do so much. They're just putting more financial responsibility on their kids and then encouraging them to work more to make more money.
Welcome To Britney Spears life give it couple yrs and they will End up in court trying to get control of the money again and wanting to live there own lives it’s sad but it’s coming
I couldn’t ever call someone a good parent for allowing cameras to film while their child has a panic or anxiety attack. To not only film but sign off on it being put in a show watched by millions.
not enough attention is being brought to the parents. This entire thing is the fault of their greed for money and fame. They are some of the fakest parents I've ever seen.
as someone with crippling anxiety, I literally can't imagine living their lives. id imagine theres been a pit in the girls stomachs since the first tik tok blew up.
@user-lt1nw2hr6m i really wish we started giving more of a fuck about teenage mental health (mental health in general) more. i don't believe anybody should be floating on the top when there are people chained to the bottom, but mental health can hit anyone and everyone at any time
@@gordonramsayslambsauce You mean like, recognizing privilege inherent in the mental health system where someone as wealthy as the D'Amelios have access to resources the average person, and especially those below the poverty line, will never have? Well, maybe you don't mean that, I mean you think mental _health_ hitting someone is a _bad_ thing.
@user-lt1nw2hr6m Possibly, but it's also possible that the deluge of people around her pushing her to do more more more prevents that from really being an option. Imagine if your family's entire well-being hinged on you doing something that you despise. I mean fuck, dude, just listen to what Drew said in his "My second take" section again. He covers it pretty damned well. Have a little compassion.
@@alphazero924 compassion for whom? They are rich and famous, live luxurious lives, hang around with the elites, despite the lack of talent and hard work. And you expect mere mortals like me to show compassion, to say "aww feel so sorry for her". Ridiculous.
@@nikolas8203 Compassion for the child. She's not Musk or Zuckerberg. She's a kid who got swept up in the latest sensation and is now the breadwinner of her entire family and the lynchpin of their wealth. She has to feel an insane amount of pressure to keep going with something maybe she doesn't even enjoy just for the fact that it's what's gotten them this far, and if she stops then it all comes crumbling down. Do you know how bad that is for an actual literal child's psychology?
The clip of Charlie talking about how her own therapist just said “oh my daughter is a big fan of you, you make her happy” instead of like....idk helping her with her problems
It’s awful watching that clip of Dixie having an actual nervous breakdown. The parents seemed so disingenuous and bizarre, like they had no idea how to comfort their child as a parent.
honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
It's a clip that shouldn't even exist in the first place, they shouldn't have even recorded it. She was breaking down and they put it on film. That's gross
To them, they've become so detached from their children because of the fame that they basically have a thought process that boils down to "Oh no, the paycheck is having a breakdown."
I like how Drew is so honest. Like, he's not going the easy route and just saying the show is bad, but instead he takes us through his whole thought process about a different angle of the show. It's good how he treats his channel
10:58 Actually, Dixie doesn't even write her own songs. That song that Drew played, was written by 4 professional songwriters. And then they came out with "i was really really really sad :("
"The d'amelios don't deserve to be as famous as they are but they definitely don't deserve to be hated this much" is the perfect way to describe the d'amelios
I wish ppl would consider how they stole from black creatives more and how they didn’t do anything after they got called out on it but I don’t HATE them for it. I definitely don’t like them for it tho.
I think Jennette McCurdy has a really good point: children should not be famous. It’s so damaging. It’s been damaging all throughout history, not just in the present. Watching Dixie and Charli struggle with the anxiety and pressure was painful. My heart goes out to them. I wish they’d had a chance to grow a little more before blowing up…
GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear co
@@LordOfDhara they do go to therapy already, they have been before being famous. It’s not their fault they have money, go blame the little kids making them that way. And you.
You never fucking miss. So refreshing seeing people empathize with young girls/people instead of mocking them. I know that mocking things is *very cool* on TH-cam bc views, but I really really respect you not taking that route. I would assume you have a big female demographic. Which says it all really. Keep doing you!!!
you worded this so well i feel like cynical content is so popular especially when the target is young girls who still have so much to learn, its so nice to see him analyzing their circumstances instead of just hating
@@Hi-vr3kd i want to empathise with the fact that they are young and stuff but if they were young enough to know what works online and they managed to continue going viral after a few initial lucky hits..they shouldve known the consequences too, i mean theyre not innocent teenagers picked up and put into some maze that hates them, they chose the path of least resistance, they chose becoming ultra rich and they agreed and signed contracts with managers and companies to do xyz things so how can they complain abt it when its entirely their choice? this is where i draw the line, if someone innocent getting 100-300k views suddenly blows up and gets like 10-12 mil views and that video gets hate its understandable that they werent ready for it, but if someone continuesly gets that views and tries to go with it and blows up and then complains about it then lol i dont feel a thing for them.
that clip of Dixie talking about how she didn’t go to college bc it would be embarrassing if someone played one of her songs at a frat party makes sooo much sense now knowing she didn’t necessarily *want* to be a pop star…
fuck, this also makes me think of the “i don’t do my makeup everyday” vid and now i feel really bad for laughing at that and the memes that people made of that
That doesn’t make any sense. She can go to college and get her degree without ever having to step in a frat party. I mean I get she’s a kid, and that what a kid first thinks of college = parties. Smh
I don't know anything about them, but I do see these sisters pop up sometimes and holy shit I thought Dixie was the younger sister and they were both like 15 or 17. But your comment made me Google and one of them is 20???
My first red flag was the dad saying in the promo “we don’t want social media to take over our lives.” Agreeing to start a reality TV show is the exact wrong way to do that, sir. Also, Drew is definitely right to criticize how much her managers are having her do. All based on a kid who likes to dance sometimes.
For sure. If they wanted to do a reality TV series, they could wait until everyone is an adult and the star of the show has lost popularity. If she's making money now, then that's fine and she can have some of the stress without having it all dumped at once.
As a mom, if my child were having a panic attack/breakdown/bad mental health moment (and we were being filmed), I would not only demand every camera be turned off but I’d make everyone leave as well…or take my kid into another room for us to be alone. I’ve suffered enough anxiety and panic attacks that I can’t imagine having one for the entire world to see, nor could I imagine not doing everything in my power to comfort my daughter through one. Idk though, I’m also fiercely in love with my kids and these parents seem so…detached? It’s sad.
Something that I can’t appreciate more is how the staff behind the Bluey tv show keep the children voice actors identities secret. They know how predatory the industry is and wants to keep those kids away from stardom.
The parents need to hire an on-staff children’s psychologist and a psychiatrist if they want their daughters to have a chance. They have a live-in chef. Get a live-in therapist!
Or just make basic good parenting decisions like let your kids be kids, don’t over-expose them to the public, and don’t make them the bread winners of the family. Therapists aren’t miracle workers.
I still blame the parents. They bought the 14 million dollar house, they signed the contracts for the managers, they sign the TV deals and hire the live-in chef. They're the ones who set the girls expectations so high, and since they hired the managers, they're the one driving the girls crazy with the work load. The high pressure environment was created by the parents, not the kids.
I thought exactly the same. Spot on. If my kid earned that much I'd put at least half of it away in a trust fund and I'd let them do their thing. Apparently 20+ millions are not enough, we always need *more*.
Can you really blame them tho? We commonly consider that kind of lifestyle as a dream and, with them being an ordinary family before fame, I'm sure they did as well so when they saw the possibility of getting that kind of lifestyle they did bad choices for their kids, but it's not like they did it purposefully, they were probably overwhelmed by the situation as well
@@kevinlocatelli1721 Im not a person worth millions, but I sure as hell wouldn't be as financially irresponsible to the point my daughter needs to do all this random stuff at once only to support my unrealistic lifestyle. But that's just me. And besides, it's *her* money. It doesn't belong to them
It’s not just the fact that these girls have to deal with hate-it’s the fact that they’ve been completely stripped of their anonymity. The ability to just live your life without being documented and judged wherever you go is honestly a huge gift that no one really appreciates until you see people that don’t have that ability.
@JSB calling someone narcissistic just because they make content that is not your taste. You are just a pretentious snob. If you hate them, DON'T WATCH IT. Shocking right! I don't like Tiktok so you know what I do? I don't even bother watching it. So self important that you thought everyone will make content that you will enjoy.
It's called the price of fame. Everything in life has its pros and cons. With the money she has made she can comfortably retire and live a "normal" life, but instead she (and the people close to her) decided she should strive to milk the proverbial cow for all she can take, thus in turn giving her stress and other goodies.
@@dismantledbrain5910 didn't you hear the part about how she's a teenagers who's under a lot of pressure and in front of millions of people? is not easy to just retire or choose to get away from the spotlight in a situation like that
i really question their parents morals. they see how much this is all affecting their children and they don’t seem to care that much. if my child was having this much anxiety over things that could be controlled i would take them out of the situation immediately. they are being filmed having panic attacks and mental breakdowns but it’s fine because it’ll give them sympathy and more money?? the entire family is basically financially dependent on charli and they’ve dug themselves too deep to just back out of everything. nobody is standing up for charli or dixie and that is so sad
the dad was (idk if he still is) bringing in a lot of money for their family. before Charli blew up they lived in a big house and Charli went to a good school plus dixie was on her way to college I think. if the parents had any sympathy for their children they would tell them to just stop posting.... they'll be fine without it. Charli has made enough money to support herself for a long time. fame is not worth their mental health
Taking them out of the situation would probably just create more drama leading to worse anxiety and poorer mental health. the parents deciding to cut them off from the world all of a sudden would probably upset the girls and the fans and their friends and the media and really wouldn’t be productive at all. There really isn’t a solution, especially not one that’s achievable by their parents since you can’t undo fame and they’re probably already under so many contracts. And I don’t think charli or Dixie wants to quit since they have so many benefits and opportunities so if their parents forced them to that would also take a toll on their mental health and probably wouldn’t help it at all. Also in the series they do seem pretty concerned with the amount of work their children are doing and I’m pretty sure charli and Dixie offered to help pay for the house since they say that the parents never really wanted to move to LA in the first place but charli and Dixie figured out the logistics and begged them to until they said yes
The parents hired the agents. The agents are just the buffer vehicle for the authority the parents can’t execute themselves otherwise it would completely ruin their parent/ child relationship, Dixie and Charlie would see them as their bosses. 14 million dollar home and only one way to pay for it. The parents get to have their cake (money made from the success of their children) and eat it too (maintain stable relationships)
Exactly what I was thinking. In Dixies case, she is old enough to make her own decisions. But Charlie is still young. It's such a horrible thing to make your child feel pressured to slave work because their parents quit their jobs.
i think its their fault for even thinking of profiting off of their kids in the first place, they should've just put all the money into the kid's savings.
@@mothman4672 the parents basically are their bosses because in the end they have the authority over their child's career and life. they're terrible parents, and bosses.
People are hardcore praising Drew, but to me he's just showing normal human empathy. Maybe people just aren't used to seeing that? Not trying to bring Drew down, that's just my thought.
Dont think it's just his "empathy" people are praising. Drew is very intelligent and has a great way of articulating how he relates to the sisters struggles but also relates to the audience as well, and ends up seeming very down to earth. Not easy to do.
Empathy is hard to find on the internet these days when it comes to content about internet celebrities. There’s always a huge divide where they’re either seen as godsend idols or spoiled brats and not much in between. In this landscape where Charli and Dixie are constantly demonised just because people find them annoying, Drew offering an empathetic, objective perspective is rare. It’s easy to make fun of the sisters at their expense, and other commentary channels would take that easy route. Drew is not doing anything revolutionary, but it feels like he is in the current state of internet culture.
It sucks that these parents saw their children blowing up and simply ran with it and exploited and continue to exploit them for money rather than protect them and make sure they’re ok with all of this.
They're not exploiting them, there's probably a pressure on both girls to rack that money in without having their parents tell them anything. Just the fact that they see their parents happy makes them go through this. Is it good? HELL NO, are they old enough to realize it? HELL NO, does it take away from the parents' responsability? HELL NO. But don't forget that money makes the world go round and in North America (the root of capitalism), it certainely doesn't help. It's more of a "most parents would do this", not just hers, many, many famous children's parents were exploited be it with intent or not.
The parents aren't the ones exploiting the children here. The flock of vultu- I mean, _managers_ circling around the family are. They're very good at convincing parents that this is all best for their children; meanwhile, the managers care only as much as said children are profitable.
@@TheLastEgg08 Exactly this! It's one of the most pernicious things about capitalism - it ends up being the reason for a lot of really, really bad things, but unless one knows to look for it, it's not there
The scene where they've just pre-planned Dixie's entire year for her without seeming to have even consulted her on any of it and then they just go "so how do you feel about your 2021 :P" at the end as if they didn't just dump 300 projects on her that she didn't even want to do in the first place.... horrifying. It's so clear that they don't see her as a person that they need to foster and help grow, but as a money making machine that they need to pump for all its worth.
absolutely horrible "so how do you feel about your 2021" more like "so how do you feel about the 2021 I made to make money regardless of your well-being". Hate it so much... its the mentality of: as long as your alive your fine and if your fine you make money. If you have time to cry you have time to make money. absolutely disgusting.
It’s fucking horrifying, and this kind of sudden fame has been documented to lead to severe addiction issues in later life. Fucking Drew Barrymore was a coke addict at 8 years old.
Right. If they had 8MM$ at some point it would've been a much saner choice to buy a 1MM$ house upfront. I don't think this family has enough experience being rich to be getting into debt like that, not to mention the fact that the money isn't coming from a steady source
@@anaisabelribeiro2721good point that the whole family definitely wasn’t ready for that level of wealth, and going the route of living below their collective means would’ve been a lot healthier it’s sad to see kids struggle with parents who really don’t seem to get it and aren’t equipped to parent incredibly famous children
The fact that their parents didn’t get them off of the app when it started to affect them this much kinda shows that they just see them as an income at this point. Can’t imagine letting my 16 yr old have constant breakdowns because of the internet
Exactly! I’ve watched my 3 kids navigate social media, and the second they start comparing themselves to others, or hating themselves because of what others say, or even hyping themselves because of how many likes and positive comments they get, I explain how FUCKING STUPID it is to let other people, mostly strangers, dictate how you feel. Then I’m like, hey y’all each find a recipe and go to the store and get the ingredients and let’s put on some music and cook a meal and dance together. Social media is intended to give us good recipes, not self esteem. Cause fuck everybody, you do you. NO “SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE”, at least not til you know what you want to be like.
@@TheRadiostar72 "Social media is intended to give us good recipes" i really like this. social media for kids shouldn't be completely demonized or controlled, but they shouldn't be allowed to get so absorbed in the worst parts of it
10:34 I think in general, the internet tends to hate literal children for no reason at all. I don't really know who this family is, but as you said, people will root for a child to fail because??? They are a teen who made a not so good song??? The internet will declare them public enemy number 1. They will send so much hate and vitriol towards them for no good reason. Setting our calendars back 11 years, it's exactly what happened with Rebecca Black's Friday. Bad song, but did this actual 13 year old deserve all the bullying she got for it? Adults who mock kids like this are pathetic, they are actual scum.
Not exclusively children, but other than that, yeah. I totally get being upset that they got popular while being talentless, that’s fine, that’s genuine, fair criticism, but anything past that is just harassment and sickening to see
I remember getting into an argument with a friend about Rebecca Black right after that song came out. I found the song really annoying but I thought the hate she was getting was too much, my friend was like, "nah, fuck that girl, she recorded the song she deserves what she gets." and I'm like, "...she's like, thirteen. Did you never do anything embarrassing and annoying when you were thirteen?" I am so goddamn glad social media didn't really exist until I was like thirteen or so and I wasn't allowed to get any sort of account until I was fifteen.
I think Hollywood culture tends to ruin a lot of child fame. Daniel Radcliffe was a child star, but he ended up fine because he got famous outside of that child star sphere
@@maseoembry4165 Daniel Radcliffe got lucky because the Harry Potter series was shot in England. The people around him also made sure he had a proper childhood, or at least as normal as a child star can have. He didn't become a brand or a product, and in his adulthood he has a proper acting career. I think being far from the toxic LA child star culture was incredibly beneficial for him and the other Harry Potter child stars.
honestly this is just a weird form of modern child labor that’s not taken seriously cause “they don’t do anything but still make money!” as if they’re doing all of the stuff they’re doing and not being exploited by adults edit: kay i dont think y’all get what i mean, it is ridiculous that they make money from moving their arms a bit but the adults in their lives are making them do literally anything and everything to make money, acting, singing, writing, etc. these are things that takes other people years to achieve and they’re doing it all at once while having all of the pressure they get.
"child labor" they make tiktok dances and got their own show? they aren't being made to work in a salt mine or stitch shoes. her anxiety is clearly caused by being on an online space, not her parents or anyone pressuring her. i saw no evidence of anyone pressuring her to do anything while watching the show. she's 17 years old and people are acting like she doesn't have the mental capacity to choose things for herself lmfao. legally she's a child but i'm sure she has the brainpower to say yes and no to things. child labor is Ryans Toy Reviews because he is literally too young to realize what he's doing. Charli isn't so i don't get why people are acting like she's being forced to make content. everyone has detractors and online haters and that can and will affect someone's mental state. it's awful and shouldn't happen but i struggle to see how this in any way is child labor. child labor infers some sort of physical or mental labor that is taxing on the child. the only mentally taxing thing to Charli is online trolls and that isn't anyones fault. the only physically taxing thing is actually doing the dances. i just honestly don't get the pity party for famous people simply for being famous. fame comes with hate and pressure. it always has
i also don't see how Charli is being exploited. she has a manager, does he just force her to take show deals without asking her? probably not lol. she no doubt has a say in any projects she does and any videos she puts online. and i can't find any online evidence that her family or managers have taken advantage of her by stealing money or charging exorbitant fees. so i really don't see how she's being exploited. i'm sure Charli has more agency in her own career than you all are making it seem
absolutely i feel like if not for the pressure of their parents they wouldn't have continued doing social media or they would've at least took it easy... its clear that the parents want the fame too (maybe even more than dixie and charli) i mean making a whole reality show about the family? feels like they're trying to benefit off of their children's fame🤷♀️
@@inyrui I started out disagreeing and ending up somewhat agreeing 😂 But one thing I'd like to say is, you have to see that she didn't ask for this lifestyle at the beginning. But now she has made certain commitments (like to her audience, her future prospects, brand deals and all) which she can't just drop. She's in the situation where she can say no to stuff but that would lead to missing potentially good opportunities. Like what if as Dree said, she's earning for the family now? Isn't she feeling obligated to continue to do so? This is mentally taxing job. Child labour.
@@inyrui drew went over all this in the video. There are people that have literally planned out years of their lives for them. They may feel bad about turning anything down because they’re scared to let their family down or go broke. So now we have kids with zero free time, people always telling them what to do, and a bunch of people hating them for no reason. Of course having all of this happening while being rich is nowhere near the worse situation going on right now. But that doesn’t mean you can’t feel any empathy for them
Is it just me who got reminded of the scene in the movie "The Little Prince," where the girls mom shows her her entire year, down to the minutes she spent for lunch to her daughter? I got chills seeing the scene because... its something that happens in real life apparently and its so depressing and uncomfortable. I hope the girls get a break and are happy and stable with themselves soon.
I really agree with Drew, it’s annoying that rich people without the strive have the resources to be great but it’s not her fault that she has the resources and has pushed into a position where she’s trying to be a popstar
i think charli is really genuine though. in all of her tiktoks she wears basic teenager girl clothes, where as when the kardashians were 17 they were having blow out sweet sixteen, multiple cars, and was wearing over the top expensive clothes. kim even shadowed Paris Hilton just to be able to live a life like her. charli really does seem genuine, honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
@@thatssoari3533 "100% of the cringe is her parents and managers fault" most people think her content itself is cringe. like the dancing itself is really cringy. i don't think her parents or managers make her do those tiktoks
@@thatssoari3533 What does society hate? Teenage girls What happens when a teenage girl ends up blowing up on tiktok? She gets targeted hate, plus the other stuff in her life. And she is a good dancer, so much so I think she honestly does tik tok dances for fun. Because it's rather easy compared to competitive dance. I wish her parents cared enough to see the impact it is having on her though. Teenagers should not be famous. It just wrecks your mental health and I'm pretty sure she already needs therapy. Like being 17. Seeing so many people be angry that you're not dead? You dont get out of something like that unscathed.
And not even just her parents. She said her parents and her entire team. She's not their employer. If she quits everyone can get a new job. It's crazy that she has this mindset and it makes me think someone told her this.
So dramatic. The family has been millionaires way before their daughters discovered tiktok. I personally know a cousin of the family. They are LOADED. Don’t believe what these tiktok teens say in attempts to drum up sympathy for themselves.
This is why I love Drew. He's an understanding, selfless person. He could be simply mocking nonstop the series, he could be just another logic-less hater on the sea of hate that fame brings. But no, he keeps reason. He analyses the situation and tries to explain to those who may not get how hard things can be come, even if you have all those resources and reach. He's not just a funny man that berates people, he's a funny man that tries to understand people. It's really wholesome.
I agree with Drew's statement of being "mid-tier famous". If I were to be an actor, I'd like to be B-list. Someone like Bruce Campbell. Generally loved by the public, but not in the spotlight constantly.
there was a comedian who said that he wanted to be the drummer from coldplay. You get to do what you love, be rich and successful. But i dare anyone to name each member of coldplay off the top of your head right now.
Solid gold take. It's baffling how people can cry 'Free Britney' and talk about what child actors like the Olsen twins and Jeanette McCurdy went though....while also mocking young people like the D'Amelios
I don't actually think it's baffling. If Drew didn't point this out, a lot of people wouldn't think so. Conceptual connection is a difficult thing, and I think we should appreciate how pensive he is being.
They've tried to make Dixie a model, an actress, a youtube talk show host and now a singer. Like it's ok to just be regular?? its ok to admit u don't have to have a profitable social media friendly skill.
I honestly think she would’ve had more success doing modeling (I saw interviews that she did some as a kid too) then music like at least people wouldn’t be trolling her 24/7 off it
@@jadered9514 I agreeeee, I think with some training she could really thrive in modeling since it doesn't require the amount of vulnerability that making music does
Tbh I think it's fine to try a lot of stuff, ppl might think it's annoying but it's all a good experience for the person trying it, I would love to try a bunch of different creative stuff with the budget to do it super professionally even if it sucked just to see what it's like.
when charli's managers planned out her whole year it reminded me so much of like One Direction and Little Mix on how they are put with these strict managers, being told what to do and having the rest of their lives planned out at such a young age
The commentary on Dixie reminds me of how far Rebecca Black has come; it’s only in recent years that she has found her voice and “proved the haters wrong” with her music career. Maybe Dixie can get there one day but she’s currently in her “Friday phase” in many ways
Been saying this for years, people keep complaining about teenage shows casting adults to play teens, but I think teens should go to school, get their first kiss in private, be a damn teen and not be in front of a camera working all day.
About the adults playing teens discourse. People also argue that a lot of these shows just misrepresent teens' lives while making the underage characters do some really questionable stuff. If Hollywood wants to see younger people get it on so bad they could just make the characters college age. They just choose not to for some reasons.
I agree, but most people say that their *portrayal* of teenage life is wrong So much party, drugs and bs which happens rarely in reality. (side note : I like k drama for this reason. The whole story revolve only about chemistry and bonding of characters. Subtle and beautiful storyline)
Perpetually impressed by your ability to make me laugh while delivering thoughtful commentary... insightful take and a lot of great points about the price these kids pay after becoming new age childhood celebrities.
I have anxiety disorder. I am a very sensitive person so whenever I see people hating on harmless things, I get extremely nervous. Then I come to this channel to calm myself down. Thank you Drew!Your existence means a lot!
The songwriting thing resonated with me. There's a saying that I've heard in my writing class that you have to write 100 bad songs before you write your first good song. I've written lyrics every night for over a year, and honestly they're all bad. But nobody's seen any of the crappy ~380 songs. Dixie is getting that experience, going through the process of writing those first songs... but in front of hundreds of millions of people. That must be terrifying.
honestly- i can’t think of anything *more* horrifying and their ages. if my failures during adolescence were broadcast to hundreds of millions of people, it would ruin me mentally for a very *very* long time.
Plus she probably has a bunch of people on her team kissing up to her and lying to her about how good the songs are cuz they know it'll make money either way, then she goes on the internet to see millions of people hating on what she was (probably) told was an amazing song by the people closest to her. The trust issues I would get...
She would be much better off lead singing for band that has completely ghost written songs tbh. She has a voice and an audience. Why waste time with terrible lyrics lol
I also genuinely hope that a good sum of charli’s income is being placed into an account that only she can access when she’s older. Not only for her own protection but if some day she decides she doesn’t wanna deal with this anymore, she has the means to give herself a chance to pursue something else or something she’s actually passionate about. Because she’s still young I assume they have financial managers that help them but hopefully they also are helping in her best interest rather than best for their business
@@veronicawilson7594 and that's part of this whole thing right? Like an adult who has had the time to work their way up would have the financial know-how to put some of it away, invest in retirement funds, say no to parents who want to be financially dependent on you, etc. But these girls were just straight up not given the time to learn all of that and are likely getting severely leeched off of by anyone willing to ask.
@@MrSomnix exactly. this has been the case with so many child stars… adults take their money. it’s so easy to take advantage of children’s’ lack of awareness about things like finances. it breaks my heart
@Vincent H. uh oh i spot an old guy blaming kids for the pressure put on other kids even tho the problem is the older people telling them how to make other adults money
Yet again you’ve created a balanced, respectful, and honest examination of something most people would just write off as terrible and move on. I think one of your strengths is having a range of style types: sharply funny, extremely angry (which is somehow even funnier), and truly thoughtful commentary. Love it all.
Honestly their parents are sus. Mind you, they were already well off before TikTok. You see your daughter having all this UNNECESSARY pressure on her, then you get your other child involved. Now you allow them both to have the weight of the world on them for what? They literally could've just stuck to (ripping off people's) dancing on Tiktok and be okay. But it's this weird societal pressure that says "DO MORE WHILE IT LAST! DO EVERYTHING WHILE IT LAST!". Real parents would've stepped in and say 'wait until you're 18' or let's reevaluate the acceptance of this life you want to commit to. As someone who suffers from panic attacks, I can tell you NO JOB is worth submitting yourself to that.
@@thepalestpuertorican she may legally be an adult, but she’s still their child. I’m 25 and still feel like a kid who just wants my parents love and support.
How is it ripping off when all they did was trends. I do t understand why people are mad at them when their videos get more likes than the original. It's not like they control who likes it or not
Whoever can get famous, _are_ the ones who deserve it It's different to call ur fave artist underrated and to go diss and bully someone else who's famous I mean seriously it *is* a talent if u know just what to do to grab attention, whether it's negative or positive. But sometimes it's just a slight chance. U can't really blame and crap at someone for that. Edit: if I didn't make it clear I was agreeing with you 🙂 So many people in youtube have mistook my comments in a bad way T_T
Maybe it's obvious but i feel like the internet created that culture and it's so fascinating how people used to be able to be stars legitimately but now everybody is a self professed critic (including myself). Personally I've always hated the fawning fan culture the world used to run according to but this is well-it's different and has it's bad sides too, and and doesn't really accomplish anything. It's like the French Revolution every few minutes.
@@astanopasta lol it’s fine. i do agree we very rarely acknowledge the soft skill of knowing how to grab and hold people’s attention. it’s just a stripped-down version of marketing.
This. The more you comment and the more views you give videos, the higher the video is gonna get pushed out on the algorithm. Even if you leave hate comments, those are still comments, and the more you leave comments like that, the more people are gonna see her.
@@mikaahoni1097 exactly this. Everyone looks to the past and goes "oh only if we can change what happened, only if we were nicer" when the exact thing is happening AGAIN to other people. What happened to Britney happened, let's learn from that and try to prevent it happening to other stars. I think she'll appreciate that more than an apology
@@xXInfinityDiesXx "we owe sulli a apology." sends jennie kim death threats on her birthday "we shouldn't hate on megan fox just because she is both talented and pretty." Bullies maddison beer and tells her she can't have anxiety because she is hot ect ect ect
honestly i feel bad for these kids. they accidentally got famous and now their lives are being controlled by managers. and theyre not allowed to make the dumb mistakes all kids do without everyone seeing and judging them
honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
@@thatssoari3533 At the same time maybe the parents get pressured to act a certain way in the show and they cant really do anything because now they 14 million dollar house and probably a lot of other shit to handle because obviously the two teenage girls cant handle them
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw because a lot of people are having conversations with me ab it, and I just wanted to tell multiple people and I didn’t feel like writing the same thing over and over again in a different way. if I want to tell three different people the same thing, I can. now if it’s a dumb and hateful copypasta I understand, but this is just my explanation and me tellling four other people, and they don’t even seem to mind as theyre responding to me with levelheaded comments.
@@ojl5055 ikr.. like I do not even think this show idea was charli’s idea, sorry i KNOW it wasn’t, that it was the managers idea. and I think she didn’t think a lot of the cringed stuff would be in the show, bc in a lot of it she’s acting her crazy self and sometimes she’s having mental breakdowns, so I do not even think she knew really was the capacity the show was
The show seems hypocritical within itself almost, like it’s displaying how much stress and anxiety and pressure they’re dealing with by constantly being seen by the entire world... but like the show is doing exactly that as well.
Well, at least the managers hit the nail on the head with their goals for the show. People are way more likely to sympathize with the D'Amelios after watching the show. So probably less hate and more money for them in the future. At least the managers are competent at what they do.
I think one of Drew's best commentary qualities is how human he is. Like he doesn't try to villainize what he's critiquing without evidence but instead let's the pros or cons show for themselves.
I'm gonna guess that's it's in comparison to other commentary channels, which seems pretty sad that something as common as that is a rarity in other channels
There should be a law that protects children from situations like this. Cos parents that push their children into this and leech off them, giving their children a parental role in providing for the family, gives me the creeps.
I heard somewhere this family was quite well off prior to the girls fame, obviously not as rich as they are now. In this particular case, I don’t think the parents pushed fame or celebrity on to their children, it just sort of happened through tiktok, so in most cases I’d agree with parents pushing children to fame to live off their children is very gross, but I don’t think that’s what happened here. I think the parents went along with this because they didn’t want their children to miss out on an opportunity to be set for life before they hit 20 years old, but I’m sure the girls are feeling the full weight of their fame. It was Charli herself that put her in the spotlight, not her parents, unlike with family vlog channels, where young children get thrust into fame without their consent.
@@ladidaohoh3168 That is what is happening here. The parents bought a godamn 15 million dollar house with the money that the sister made. That's called exploiting your children.
@@oxxy6678 literally Charli brought up in the series that she wanted to move, so I'm assuming she did not care. Perhaps money is not everything to her. Or maybe she gave her parents the money.
@@asandy4555 So you just assuming they consulted their 16 year old daughter in wasting 15 million dollars that she made on a house for them..? Seems like a reach but you and charlie probably besties
I've never seen Drew just sit down and talk about anything serious like a human being. And honestly, what a good talk. He had really insightful perspectives that I didn't even think about, and helped change my thoughts on these literal teens. It was a great contrast with his normal goofy videos, and I'm prouder now to say that he's a favorite youtuber of mine. Respect earned man.
If there are child labor laws for actors, and protections put in place that they keep the money they earn, there should be extensions to these kid influencers on tiktok and youtube. These kids need protection from greed.
whenever I hear something about ryan's toy review and how much money he earns, I feel sad; that poor kid has had his childhood stolen by his parents greed for money, and no matter how many times his parents say that he enjoys making videos (which is essentially work) it will never sit right with me
I really appreciate your take on this. It’s very easy to poke fun at teenage celebrities for all the “cringey” stuff they do, I’m guilty of it myself to an extent. I appreciate how you are able to actually put yourself in their shoes.
Yeah, I've never liked it when adults shit on people who are physically and mentally still developing in so many ways. like at that age an adult's insults are really heavy
There was a video of Dixie crying about someone calling her "musty" and everyone was saying "how is that going to make you cry?" like, these people are minors and get more hate in a day than most people will get in their lifetime. Those comments build up
@@minocah1919 as which ever kardashian said; There are people starving. Who gives a fuck. Your average person online gets called all these sort of nasty names all the time too. These are spoiled rich kids who made a fucking show about how mean people are. I'm not gonna give a fuck.
Don’t get me wrong I’d love to be rich as hell but I would never want to be famous. I value my privacy way too much. Also can’t imagine growing up in this time, in general, with social media and having every cringe moment on the internet forever. I had MySpace at like 15-16 but it was on a much smaller scale. That was pretty much it
I watched the entire show and as someone that could not care less about TikTok and stupid drama, I feel horrible for these girls. I have anxiety and it’s like hell on Earth, but imagining having anxiety PLUS having hundreds of people criticizing small things like what color eyeliner you’re wearing?? How would ANYONE be able to deal with that, let alone two teenage girls?
i have 0 sympathy for ppl who complain about their own consequences. if they complained about hate comments from tik tok i would understand, its something they cant control but having to deal with contracts and projects is their problem, they signed up for more money and as micheal scott says "mo money mo problems" i cant side with them if theyre being greedy and agreeing to more things thatn they can handle
The idea of people becoming famous before they have a talent to market, and then being forced to develop a skill that takes years to forge in maybe a month is something that I've never heard verbalised but have been made aware of so many times.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that but no one would really be surprised. The sad part is it isn''t *really* the parents fault, granted I haven't looked into them a ton so maybe I can't accurately speak on this. But in the parents defense, they are just as new to this fame/money situation as their kids are. However, its a parents job to protect their children and assure the best for them. If they decide to take advantage and capitalize on this situation then that's really shitty, but you gotta remember they are pretty much in the same boat, very new to all this fame/attention.
Can't really imagine anything prepares you to handle this situation as a parent. I get that capitalizing on it poorly would be seen as a shitty thing to do, but also I'm sure they're trying to do everything in their kid's best interest. I bet a lot of parents would love to give their child the experience to be the star they want, I just don't think Charlie and Dixie want that. It sucks because they're not gonna get to try other crafts that aren't associated with fame that they may truly enjoy and be talented at.
imo their parents can avoid or even reverse that possible trend by putting their foot down at crucial moments when their "managers" are pushing them too hard or want them to do things they aren't comfortable with.
The way their entire year is planned out for them sounds so overwhelming. It's like they know once they're done, there's another binder waiting for them :/
To be fair our lives are all planned out in binders, they’re just full of question marks and budgeting so you can eat the next day. These kids get the benefit of having someone control their future for them while also having the disadvantage of having someone control their future for them. The parents are shit.
Parts of the UK, France specifically is working on a program that allows children and teens to work as influencers but they have to get their hours approved BY THE COUNTY- not their parents- so there’s less of a chance of overworking or exploring their kids for views.
I'm wondering how they're going to set their hours because influencers do a broad range of things. Shoots for Instagram pictures, meetings with brands, filming, editing and then uploading videos etc.
It's really concerning how their parents aren't doing much to help them too. If I saw my kids practically breaking down everyday crying about how much stress and anxiety they're under I would definitely try my best to cut things down to the point where everything would be much easier to handle. Their parents are the biggest concern here it totally looks like they're exploiting their children for as much profit as they can make. Also, hope that the sisters can get through this stressful period of their lives. I look forward to seeing them showcase their talent on their own will in the future
their isn’t much they can do the called off meetings dixie is grown they don’t have control over her and charli is 17 and they can’t help her unless charli can communicate what she needs
Probably the parents aren't prepared for all of this either. I agree and would do the same that you said, but I have some sort of understanding on social media branding because I'm gen z, they don't and even if they hire people to educate them on that to help their daughters, they'll probably gaslight them into keep exploiting their kids.
@@melisacaceres8740 the point about the parents being not prepared is spot on 👏 yea people blame them but you're right, they're probably just as clueless and confused
I absolutely adore the way you talk about stuff. You treat subject matters with sensitivity and sincerity. Don't be sorry not putting jokes in this one, the video and your commentary was superb. You actually made me feel better about my own anxiety as well. I hope Dixie and Charlie see this and actually reflect on their lives and make good choices for their future.
As a teenager, like, around Charli's age teenager, I couldn't imagine the stress she faces every day. I can barely handle all of my school work. Hell, I can barely get through math class without a breakdown.
i'm 15 and my biggest concern is biology homework... i can't imagine what she's going through. it's why i never got the unnecessary hate and anger older people feel towards her. it has always felt immature and honestly kind of toxic. i don't get why people concern themselves with so much negativity.
The "I don't feel sorry for them because they're rich" sentiment goes straight out the window when we're talking about children- human beings historically not in control of their life, still developing mentally and emotionally, known to be easily taken advantage of. I feel terrible for these kids because no amount of money undoes the impact of constant scrutiny and pressure to succeed in a career on a still developing brain.
I agree with you, I feel like I rarely sympathize with the rich, but anytime children are involved, my heart goes out to them. It's always the kids who wind up hurt because the adults in their lives messed up.
So Charli gets rich and famous overnight > why does that immediately mean the family has to move into a huge ass expensive home which they might not be able to afford anymore if say, Charli’s fame subsides or she decides not to do entertainment anymore because she’s literally still a child????? (She’s 17.) Her parents are responsible in my honest opinion. That’s a lot to put on your kid.
Is not like they lived in the middle of nowhere aswell, the family lived only an hour outside of New York City, so they could’ve gotten the same or similar opportunities if the family stayed back home and just let them have a bit of a more normal life (until they graduated high school at the very least). Really no need to uproot yourself like that if you care about your kids well being.
@@demilevine2458 I’m so tired of hearing they were just a “normal every day family.” They were literally already filthy rich and set for life. These people have never had to struggle
drew, youre in the middle of the screen, get out of the way
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I thought this was gonna be a “haha dumb kids making fuck you money” and now i’m debating the morality of child stardom in the gc
It’s a lot harder than it looks and some of what happens behind the scenes shouldn’t be allowed
it’s fucked. it’s genuinely fucked. could go on for hours, but i think this is a pretty relevant quote that applies to the situation. “The devil doesn’t come to you in a red cape and horns, he comes to you with everything you ever wished for and dreamed of.”
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"in the gc"? What's the gc?
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Imagine doing cute lip-synced dances for 10 seconds at a time
And now you're paying your family's rent, and have zero control of your life
Hit the nail on the head! I actually feel bad for them. Paying the mortgage on a 14 million dollar house as a teenager? What happens when the money dries up?
@@amandafaries5474 I’m not saying it will happen, but a lot of the time with child hood celebs, drugs and crippling debt
The parents are so greedy to put their children through this. Wtf would they buy such expensive house and why would they hire such demanding managers? And the fact that they inserted themselves into these reality shows? Let your daughters live their lives a little. Its not healthy, the parents are not being parents
Yeah, that parents seem so willing to hedge their lives on their child's success is mindboggling.
@@amandafaries5474 Blows my mind how so many people who run into money don't do what it takes to ensure that money grows in the future. Even in my dumb 25 year old head, the second I ran into money I immediately started thinking how to ensure the money can be multiplied and maybe one day take care of my future children. Nobody knows how long the money will last, so why not take the steps to make it generational if you can?
The D'amelio parents are so odd to me. They seem to be okay with throwing the financial burden on their children, despite witnessing Dixie and Charlie have panic attacks over the very thing that supplies the family's money. Have they ever tried to steer their children away from fame? Or have they accepted, or even encouraged, all the fame and opportunity? Do they even truly register what they're doing to their children?
Exactly my feeling and I also think that maybe if they had left it alone and left Charli and Dixie to continue making tiktoks with dances and things without the pressure of a music career, books, brand deals and Hulu tv shows (????) then maybe the girls (because they are children) wouldn’t face such pressure. Obviously there would be some pressure with such a large audience and some may argue that they want to do these things but seeing how stressed and emotionally tired they are sort of suggests this isn’t the case and they’re being told they want to do these things by management bought for them by their parents. I don’t know if this tv show was the best idea given the bad light it’s put their parents under.
there are actually scenes in the last couple episodes where heidi calls the guy who plans charli's calendar to clear up a week so that she can have a break, so that charli can improve on her mental health. so yes, her parents do have an impact however her parents do still care about her and stuff
@@jazzhutch one week, after planning a whole year jam packed with stuff that is overwhelming her and honestly we don’t know she even wants. Sure a break is good, but going a week without anything then diving back to an overpacked schedule won’t help. She needs to remove some of that weight, not just take the entire weight off for a week only to pack it all back on after that. Granted I don’t know these people, none of us do but I wonder if they’ve ever really sat down with their daughters and asked if they want to do all of this, what exactly they want and to reassure there is not pressure for them to continue this just to pay the bills because that should NEVER be the child’s responsibility.
Money can turn any angel to the most disobedient demon. EXTREMELY few parents would be like: "We don't need that money, all we need is you". Especially not in a country like the US.
That happens as often than you think, heck when 80s pop star Tiffany’s career took off she talked about how her stepfather gleefully quit his job because she was the breadwinner in the family
I think if you’re financially dependant on your teenage daughter, there’s already a problem
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It's also the idea of if your kid has the chance to do something they "like at the start" that makes them enough money they won't ever have to worry and possible a career they enjoy. A lot of parents would think if I was my kid I'd want my parent to push me to do this cause it's the best "chance" in life for them to make it.
Not saying it's okay for parents to do such things, but it's more understandable when you think about it.
I don't care if my child makes millions I will not put them in the position of breadwinner responsible for our financial situation. I don't care if they're 40, make three times my pay, and live in a mansion, when they see me I'm going to slip $10 into their pocket and packing them leftovers because in my heart they'll always be my baby.
Yeah seriously. I've never watched anything that any of them have ever been on or made but I get the sense from headlines and commentary like this that the parents are completely sucked in to the girls' fame and haven't stopped to think about the fact that their kids are kids. They're not full grown adults with autonomy and complete critical thinking skills. The girls deserve a say and to make choices on their own but at the same time, they can't possible see how bad this in full. I don't think the parents evil but definitely neglectful
They aren’t reliant on their teenager……
I feel like the parents are a lot to blame, they are burdening them financially with that 14 million dollar house and other life style choices, which are not necessary
agreed
It's horrible that they bought that huge mansion when they financially depend on kids to pay it off. They definitely bit off more than they could chew.
Exactly. The fact that they could've just let their kids be kids and let them deal with the fame in their own way (Charli could've sought out brand deals/sponsors on her own, or she might not have wanted to do other things at all and is content with making tiktoks), but instead they started immediately capitalizing off of it, knowing their kids would probably heed their advice because they're the parents. At a certain point, what is the line between letting your kids have fun on tiktok and forcing them to do brand deals/make tiktoks in order to support your family financially? It's just such a stupid decision regardless.
@@meixuanler3535 the worst part is that the parents joined tiktok when they saw that their two kids had millions of followers. You can tell that the parents only care about money and retiring early.
Yeah, they’re the adults they should know better. Put the money in trust accounts and IRAs, maybe invest some of it. Also they should probably do a better job of establishing boundaries with, and protecting the girls from, the managers and other show biz parasites. Idk their life but the parents’ choices don’t look great
Really appreciate how you didn't just go "show bad, sisters dumb," It's nice to see someone with some perspective and compassion instead of just taking an easy dunk
Also some fairly relevant perspective. Drew probably dealt with a lot of this (one a much smaller scale) being propelled to Vine fame at, what... 20? 21? Dude sounds like he is empathizing from very real experience.
nevertheless still true
are you new here lol
cough cough, the lily sign and jaystation video
It’s still true though.
charli actually talks about how she doesn’t like saying no to things because so many peoples jobs and incomes rely on her working.
this is so depressing
thats so stressful for a teenager
dang that’s so true, i never thought about that…
Im a 16 yr old business owner, nowhere near her success but I get that and its extremely stressful
The only reasons jobs depend on the girls is because the parents signed contracts for them. No contracts, no obligations.
“Instead of dying, I posted a dance video” is a surprisingly badass quote from Charlie
the point flew over your head
@@ashleymalx pls make me understand the point i have difficulty comprehending things so i missed the point too
w Charles samelion moment
@@justsomegirlwithamustache6840 like the point is not whether that's badass or not. She got so famous that people are even predicting her death, dont u realize how sick that is especially for a teenager ?
@@Mary-fo2uv ohh true😦
It really broke my heart for her when I saw the clip of her talking about her therapist. How she was unloading all this very real mental health issues she was experiencing because she was famous, only to have her therapist say something along the lines of “well my kids love you!” Like… hell no. I hope she can get a different therapist who actually works with her like she’s a normal teenager instead of a golden idol who’s supposed to be robotically happy at all times.
she should go to a psychiatrist, therapists are variable and most of them suck ass. I bounced from 2 therapists until I finally went to a psychiatrist who was way more expensive but honestly, the best decision i ever made
@@hi2978 agree
@@hi2978 I swear psychiatrist don’t perform therapy, they diagnose and prescribe medication
To touch on the psychologist vs psychiatrist debate- if you have the means, see both regularly. Psychologists in a general sense are there to hear you out and help you work through your issues in practical ways, psychiatrists are there to prescribe medication if/when they deem fit. Both avenues are helpful when working through mental and emotional issues. Similar to how physical therapy and pain medication help people get heal a broken bone.
@@swand1383 nope some counseling centers have psychiatrists
"I don't think young people should be allowed to be famous." Jeanette McCurdy speaking the gospel truth
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yeah the more I think about it like...it's unethical. It never really goes well. Like you're literally still developing your identity and literal brain yet held to a standard where people look up to you and expect you to be perfect
@@Catz1a don't forget being groomed and hooked on drugs
conan obrien says the same thing lol and i totally agree
@@BetteDavis19conan is the best
Props to every famous parent that hides their children.
Underrated asf. Also proof you can hide from the spotlight
The children are the famous people here though.
Gigi and Zayn does this and I honestly have so much respect for that decision
dantdm moment
kyle
“Kim there’s people that are dying” kills me everytime 😂😂
same
Same
Yeah KUWTK is a way better and funnier show, no wonder their billionaire’s
Haha ya I don't know who said that but it was hilarious.
@@strawberyyicecreamdream216 kourtney said it
Wow, imagine being 17, and uttering the sentence "millions of people were sad because they wanted me to die, but I didn't" is just a normal thing for you
I literally had to pause like…..shit man. At 16 I was breaking down in the school bathroom bc I got a bad grade. I couldn’t have handled that comment then (or even now at 22 for that matter). But it’s like, the fact that she was so stoic about it is so heartbreaking ugh
Dude,i got shivers there,and my eyes are teary just imagining how i wouldve felt if i were her
Fr when I was a teen I was dealing with early symptoms of depression I cant imagine hatred coming from strangers, when I didn't even like myself
Yeah I remember when that TH-cam channel predicted her death back in march and that channel had actually predicted some ppls deaths before and was right so ppl were certain Charli was gonna die on that date. And I checked the comments and ppl were so happy that she was gonna die? And when she didn't they were disappointed
This is what so many people in these comments don't seem to get. Like, yeah charli isn't a destitute starving child in some warzone, but daily death threats and hate and parental pressure are part of HER reality and it's hard for HER. It would be fucking hard for me too if any of that happened to me now as a full adult.
The parents are responsible for a lot of this. Even though their parents had little control over the two of them getting so famous, they are the ones who bought the $14 million house, took them on that trip to the Bahamas, hired the managers, and pushed them to do so much. They're just putting more financial responsibility on their kids and then encouraging them to work more to make more money.
It makes me wonder if the parents are making money off of the girls at their expense.
Like, the best you can do as a parent in that situation is put that stuff in the child's savings and continue life as normal.
Welcome
To Britney Spears life give it couple yrs and they will End up in court trying to get control of the money again and wanting to live there own lives it’s sad but it’s coming
Bet they are. Didn’t the parents move them out to LA after Charlie got famous? LA is a cesspool
agreed, I think the damelios parents are way more involved and trying then other parents but I don’t think they should’ve agreed to move to LA
I couldn’t ever call someone a good parent for allowing cameras to film while their child has a panic or anxiety attack. To not only film but sign off on it being put in a show watched by millions.
They even said they don't know how to help them, like maybe put the camera away? It's honestly sad.
@@shisexee what they mean is they don't know how to help them without risking losing all the perks
This! My mom would never film while I'm freaking out, ever. If people were filming me my mom would lose it
not enough attention is being brought to the parents. This entire thing is the fault of their greed for money and fame. They are some of the fakest parents I've ever seen.
@@tayaelb56 It was almost certainly their idea to move into a house worth millions of dollars
as someone with crippling anxiety, I literally can't imagine living their lives. id imagine theres been a pit in the girls stomachs since the first tik tok blew up.
@user-lt1nw2hr6m i really wish we started giving more of a fuck about teenage mental health (mental health in general) more. i don't believe anybody should be floating on the top when there are people chained to the bottom, but mental health can hit anyone and everyone at any time
@@gordonramsayslambsauce You mean like, recognizing privilege inherent in the mental health system where someone as wealthy as the D'Amelios have access to resources the average person, and especially those below the poverty line, will never have? Well, maybe you don't mean that, I mean you think mental _health_ hitting someone is a _bad_ thing.
@user-lt1nw2hr6m Possibly, but it's also possible that the deluge of people around her pushing her to do more more more prevents that from really being an option. Imagine if your family's entire well-being hinged on you doing something that you despise. I mean fuck, dude, just listen to what Drew said in his "My second take" section again. He covers it pretty damned well. Have a little compassion.
@@alphazero924 compassion for whom? They are rich and famous, live luxurious lives, hang around with the elites, despite the lack of talent and hard work. And you expect mere mortals like me to show compassion, to say "aww feel so sorry for her". Ridiculous.
@@nikolas8203 Compassion for the child. She's not Musk or Zuckerberg. She's a kid who got swept up in the latest sensation and is now the breadwinner of her entire family and the lynchpin of their wealth. She has to feel an insane amount of pressure to keep going with something maybe she doesn't even enjoy just for the fact that it's what's gotten them this far, and if she stops then it all comes crumbling down. Do you know how bad that is for an actual literal child's psychology?
The clip of Charlie talking about how her own therapist just said “oh my daughter is a big fan of you, you make her happy” instead of like....idk helping her with her problems
damn wait that’s so sad
Fr super unprofessional
That therapist should be fired or quit her job straight up
Ew what
It’s unprofessional, but I can see why she did that.
It’s awful watching that clip of Dixie having an actual nervous breakdown. The parents seemed so disingenuous and bizarre, like they had no idea how to comfort their child as a parent.
Her parents were thinking: Yes kiddo. Keep crying. Give this show more popularity.
honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
well theyre conservatives so
It's a clip that shouldn't even exist in the first place, they shouldn't have even recorded it. She was breaking down and they put it on film. That's gross
To them, they've become so detached from their children because of the fame that they basically have a thought process that boils down to "Oh no, the paycheck is having a breakdown."
I like how Drew is so honest. Like, he's not going the easy route and just saying the show is bad, but instead he takes us through his whole thought process about a different angle of the show. It's good how he treats his channel
He genuinely seems like a good person tbh
The show is bad
"Easy route"
I agree entirely
It’s good
10:58
Actually, Dixie doesn't even write her own songs. That song that Drew played, was written by 4 professional songwriters. And then they came out with "i was really really really sad :("
oh shit my balls are exploding
3 of the writers had the same idea for the sad lyric I guess
@@placeholderdoe😢
honestly i would prefer if she wrote them lol at least she has an excuse for her lyrics to be bad, can’t say that about the writers lol.
Bc she is an empty person. Too young, not enough life experience. Have to find herself...
perfect take on the whole situation
i agree ebby!!
Our boy Eddy here spitting facts, HOW IS HE NOT VERIFIED ON TWITTER!?
Apey Silverback?
Hi Luigi San
Bebby
"The d'amelios don't deserve to be as famous as they are but they definitely don't deserve to be hated this much" is the perfect way to describe the d'amelios
Nah still don't like them
@@mewesquirrel6720 shut up man
@@rivert132 no thanks
I wish ppl would consider how they stole from black creatives more and how they didn’t do anything after they got called out on it but I don’t HATE them for it. I definitely don’t like them for it tho.
@@genoswest7253 they could have helped them but they didn't. They're greedy
I think Jennette McCurdy has a really good point: children should not be famous. It’s so damaging. It’s been damaging all throughout history, not just in the present. Watching Dixie and Charli struggle with the anxiety and pressure was painful. My heart goes out to them. I wish they’d had a chance to grow a little more before blowing up…
GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear co
lol communist sharks
@@AxxLAfriku here, have some attention, don’t worry it’s free since you keep begging for it
well hopefully their multi million dollar fortune can pay for some therapy sheesh
@@LordOfDhara they do go to therapy already, they have been before being famous. It’s not their fault they have money, go blame the little kids making them that way. And you.
You never fucking miss. So refreshing seeing people empathize with young girls/people instead of mocking them. I know that mocking things is *very cool* on TH-cam bc views, but I really really respect you not taking that route.
I would assume you have a big female demographic. Which says it all really.
Keep doing you!!!
Nice
Drew actually is very cool.
oh shit my balls are exploding
you worded this so well i feel like cynical content is so popular especially when the target is young girls who still have so much to learn, its so nice to see him analyzing their circumstances instead of just hating
@@Hi-vr3kd i want to empathise with the fact that they are young and stuff but if they were young enough to know what works online and they managed to continue going viral after a few initial lucky hits..they shouldve known the consequences too, i mean theyre not innocent teenagers picked up and put into some maze that hates them, they chose the path of least resistance, they chose becoming ultra rich and they agreed and signed contracts with managers and companies to do xyz things so how can they complain abt it when its entirely their choice?
this is where i draw the line, if someone innocent getting 100-300k views suddenly blows up and gets like 10-12 mil views and that video gets hate its understandable that they werent ready for it, but if someone continuesly gets that views and tries to go with it and blows up and then complains about it then lol i dont feel a thing for them.
that clip of Dixie talking about how she didn’t go to college bc it would be embarrassing if someone played one of her songs at a frat party makes sooo much sense now knowing she didn’t necessarily *want* to be a pop star…
Yeah that video is actually so sad
fuck, this also makes me think of the “i don’t do my makeup everyday” vid and now i feel really bad for laughing at that and the memes that people made of that
That doesn’t make any sense. She can go to college and get her degree without ever having to step in a frat party. I mean I get she’s a kid, and that what a kid first thinks of college = parties. Smh
I don't know anything about them, but I do see these sisters pop up sometimes and holy shit I thought Dixie was the younger sister and they were both like 15 or 17. But your comment made me Google and one of them is 20???
@@MrJonathon08 yeah, everyone made fun of her for saying it but she had a couple other reasons too
petition for drew to get his own reality show that documents his life after inventing youtube
And also being the first and only youtuber
And also the struggles that come with his second personality, “Danny Gonzalez”
Signed
after leaving NBA
"Yeah, I Sure Hope It's A Show"
My first red flag was the dad saying in the promo “we don’t want social media to take over our lives.” Agreeing to start a reality TV show is the exact wrong way to do that, sir. Also, Drew is definitely right to criticize how much her managers are having her do. All based on a kid who likes to dance sometimes.
For sure. If they wanted to do a reality TV series, they could wait until everyone is an adult and the star of the show has lost popularity. If she's making money now, then that's fine and she can have some of the stress without having it all dumped at once.
@@whyisblue923taken yeah but if they’re more famous it makes more moneyyyy.
their dad gave me a lot of red flags while watching this show...... like a lot.....
Drew likes to dance sometimes?
As a mom, if my child were having a panic attack/breakdown/bad mental health moment (and we were being filmed), I would not only demand every camera be turned off but I’d make everyone leave as well…or take my kid into another room for us to be alone. I’ve suffered enough anxiety and panic attacks that I can’t imagine having one for the entire world to see, nor could I imagine not doing everything in my power to comfort my daughter through one. Idk though, I’m also fiercely in love with my kids and these parents seem so…detached? It’s sad.
Drew really baited a lot of people who wanted to make fun of the show but giving them a thoughtful commentary instead.
Drew is a good bloke and he always has a thoughtful take 👍
How was it bait? It was straight forward from the start
@Neenpu Manus what are you talking about? I'm 25 and can't go somewhere without someone talking about or making a tiktoo
@@jjs8426 The thumbnail and the title make it seems like he's about to laugh and make fun of it like most commentary channels.
Not toxic alle!?
I know they probably wouldn't, but I kinda hope they'd see this
Best we can do is spam this link to them
I’m being sarcastic btw
me too, they both need to hear this
Yesss
Their agents definitely don’t want them to see this.
Expectation: Haha bad show is bad
Reality: Poignant commentary on childhood fame
too bad most other commentary is going to be "these people do nothing and this show is stupid😠"
Drew gooden is very fast
Love you Johnny, good to see you here. Futurama forever
Why does your comment encapsulate the last 20 minutes of my day
Give it back
Omg it's so strange to see one of my favorite cartoon commentary youtubers on the creator of youtubes channel
Something that I can’t appreciate more is how the staff behind the Bluey tv show keep the children voice actors identities secret. They know how predatory the industry is and wants to keep those kids away from stardom.
The parents need to hire an on-staff children’s psychologist and a psychiatrist if they want their daughters to have a chance. They have a live-in chef. Get a live-in therapist!
By parents, I think you mean, the sisters, since they are the primary form of income it seems.
@@phabiorules I think the parents manage their money. Aren’t they underage?
@@VeryBlackMirror no lmao only charlie. dixie is 20
@@hannalowercase5928 Ahh. I don’t follow them so I didn’t know how old they are.
Or just make basic good parenting decisions like let your kids be kids, don’t over-expose them to the public, and don’t make them the bread winners of the family. Therapists aren’t miracle workers.
I still blame the parents. They bought the 14 million dollar house, they signed the contracts for the managers, they sign the TV deals and hire the live-in chef. They're the ones who set the girls expectations so high, and since they hired the managers, they're the one driving the girls crazy with the work load. The high pressure environment was created by the parents, not the kids.
I thought exactly the same. Spot on. If my kid earned that much I'd put at least half of it away in a trust fund and I'd let them do their thing. Apparently 20+ millions are not enough, we always need *more*.
Can you really blame them tho? We commonly consider that kind of lifestyle as a dream and, with them being an ordinary family before fame, I'm sure they did as well so when they saw the possibility of getting that kind of lifestyle they did bad choices for their kids, but it's not like they did it purposefully, they were probably overwhelmed by the situation as well
@@kevinlocatelli1721 Im not a person worth millions, but I sure as hell wouldn't be as financially irresponsible to the point my daughter needs to do all this random stuff at once only to support my unrealistic lifestyle. But that's just me.
And besides, it's *her* money. It doesn't belong to them
@@Bucktel if you put away half of 20 million dollars you'd still have 10 million dollars
@@garronjohnson483 Right. And if you have 10 mill you'd spend them all for a house? I doubt it.
Even a 1.5mil house would be way more than enough
Drew says he doesn’t want to be the “most of anything” as if he isn’t the only person on TH-cam and so therefore has the most subscribers smh
Smh
smh my head
Exactly
tbf he also has the least subscribers, and is also right in the middle of the list
so he did not fire↖️⬅️↙️⬇️↘️➡️
This is literally tragic. The parents need to be held accountable. They could take even a fraction of that money and set everyone up for life.
It’s not just the fact that these girls have to deal with hate-it’s the fact that they’ve been completely stripped of their anonymity. The ability to just live your life without being documented and judged wherever you go is honestly a huge gift that no one really appreciates until you see people that don’t have that ability.
@Ssilnah well said! If i had the oppertunity to make millions
@JSB calling someone narcissistic just because they make content that is not your taste. You are just a pretentious snob. If you hate them, DON'T WATCH IT. Shocking right! I don't like Tiktok so you know what I do? I don't even bother watching it. So self important that you thought everyone will make content that you will enjoy.
It's called the price of fame.
Everything in life has its pros and cons.
With the money she has made she can comfortably retire and live a "normal" life, but instead she (and the people close to her) decided she should strive to milk the proverbial cow for all she can take, thus in turn giving her stress and other goodies.
i’ve seen too many tik toks of ppl filming them in public without their knowledge
@@dismantledbrain5910 didn't you hear the part about how she's a teenagers who's under a lot of pressure and in front of millions of people? is not easy to just retire or choose to get away from the spotlight in a situation like that
i really question their parents morals. they see how much this is all affecting their children and they don’t seem to care that much. if my child was having this much anxiety over things that could be controlled i would take them out of the situation immediately. they are being filmed having panic attacks and mental breakdowns but it’s fine because it’ll give them sympathy and more money?? the entire family is basically financially dependent on charli and they’ve dug themselves too deep to just back out of everything. nobody is standing up for charli or dixie and that is so sad
the dad was (idk if he still is) bringing in a lot of money for their family. before Charli blew up they lived in a big house and Charli went to a good school plus dixie was on her way to college I think. if the parents had any sympathy for their children they would tell them to just stop posting.... they'll be fine without it. Charli has made enough money to support herself for a long time. fame is not worth their mental health
I also feel like charli wants to delete all her accounts but her parents is stoping her.
Taking them out of the situation would probably just create more drama leading to worse anxiety and poorer mental health. the parents deciding to cut them off from the world all of a sudden would probably upset the girls and the fans and their friends and the media and really wouldn’t be productive at all. There really isn’t a solution, especially not one that’s achievable by their parents since you can’t undo fame and they’re probably already under so many contracts. And I don’t think charli or Dixie wants to quit since they have so many benefits and opportunities so if their parents forced them to that would also take a toll on their mental health and probably wouldn’t help it at all. Also in the series they do seem pretty concerned with the amount of work their children are doing and I’m pretty sure charli and Dixie offered to help pay for the house since they say that the parents never really wanted to move to LA in the first place but charli and Dixie figured out the logistics and begged them to until they said yes
It took Charli having a complete breakdown for her dad to cancel meetings/events for a couple of days. I feel awful for her
Oh Jesus calm down. It’s a reality show these girls are happy and rich. They create drama for the show. You’re blind as can be
This is honestly their parents' fault for not restricting how much the agents are bullying their children into.
The parents hired the agents. The agents are just the buffer vehicle for the authority the parents can’t execute themselves otherwise it would completely ruin their parent/ child relationship, Dixie and Charlie would see them as their bosses. 14 million dollar home and only one way to pay for it. The parents get to have their cake (money made from the success of their children) and eat it too (maintain stable relationships)
Exactly what I was thinking. In Dixies case, she is old enough to make her own decisions. But Charlie is still young. It's such a horrible thing to make your child feel pressured to slave work because their parents quit their jobs.
i think its their fault for even thinking of profiting off of their kids in the first place, they should've just put all the money into the kid's savings.
@@ammaarah867 nah bruh dixie is still way too young to make any life altering decisions
@@mothman4672 the parents basically are their bosses because in the end they have the authority over their child's career and life. they're terrible parents, and bosses.
People are hardcore praising Drew, but to me he's just showing normal human empathy. Maybe people just aren't used to seeing that? Not trying to bring Drew down, that's just my thought.
Dont think it's just his "empathy" people are praising. Drew is very intelligent and has a great way of articulating how he relates to the sisters struggles but also relates to the audience as well, and ends up seeming very down to earth. Not easy to do.
@@ejsafara456 bait
Empathy is hard to find on the internet these days when it comes to content about internet celebrities. There’s always a huge divide where they’re either seen as godsend idols or spoiled brats and not much in between. In this landscape where Charli and Dixie are constantly demonised just because people find them annoying, Drew offering an empathetic, objective perspective is rare. It’s easy to make fun of the sisters at their expense, and other commentary channels would take that easy route. Drew is not doing anything revolutionary, but it feels like he is in the current state of internet culture.
@@ejsafara456 bait
unfortunately, i think basic empathy is really hard to come by nowadays :(
"I think I forgot to put jokes in this one"
Ironically one of the funniest things Drew has ever said.
This many likes and no comments??
@@SnorlaxWhisperer I see one
That got me good ☠️
It sucks that these parents saw their children blowing up and simply ran with it and exploited and continue to exploit them for money rather than protect them and make sure they’re ok with all of this.
I feel so bad for the sisters! I can only imagine how thier mental health will get damaged by the fame and hate
They're not exploiting them, there's probably a pressure on both girls to rack that money in without having their parents tell them anything. Just the fact that they see their parents happy makes them go through this.
Is it good? HELL NO, are they old enough to realize it? HELL NO, does it take away from the parents' responsability? HELL NO.
But don't forget that money makes the world go round and in North America (the root of capitalism), it certainely doesn't help.
It's more of a "most parents would do this", not just hers, many, many famous children's parents were exploited be it with intent or not.
The parents aren't the ones exploiting the children here.
The flock of vultu- I mean, _managers_ circling around the family are.
They're very good at convincing parents that this is all best for their children; meanwhile, the managers care only as much as said children are profitable.
@@TheLastEgg08 Exactly this!
It's one of the most pernicious things about capitalism - it ends up being the reason for a lot of really, really bad things, but unless one knows to look for it, it's not there
@@RaptieFeathers Didn't they just buy a 14mil mansion on their kids though.
The scene where they've just pre-planned Dixie's entire year for her without seeming to have even consulted her on any of it and then they just go "so how do you feel about your 2021 :P" at the end as if they didn't just dump 300 projects on her that she didn't even want to do in the first place.... horrifying. It's so clear that they don't see her as a person that they need to foster and help grow, but as a money making machine that they need to pump for all its worth.
absolutely horrible "so how do you feel about your 2021" more like "so how do you feel about the 2021 I made to make money regardless of your well-being". Hate it so much... its the mentality of: as long as your alive your fine and if your fine you make money. If you have time to cry you have time to make money. absolutely disgusting.
Charli's**
They did to Charli 🥺 CHARLI -god she’s a minor…
It’s fucking horrifying, and this kind of sudden fame has been documented to lead to severe addiction issues in later life. Fucking Drew Barrymore was a coke addict at 8 years old.
I would love someone to plan money making opportunities for my year like she shows up gets her make up done and gets a check no sympathy.
$14 Million dollar house w/ a combined family net worth of $8 Million.... Makes sense. Charlie and Dixie definitely didn't make that decision. Sad.
And if they did, they shouldn't be making that decision. They're children.
Tbf in general people often buy houses that cost more than their income. Not talking about this situation tho
oh shit my balls are exploding
Right. If they had 8MM$ at some point it would've been a much saner choice to buy a 1MM$ house upfront. I don't think this family has enough experience being rich to be getting into debt like that, not to mention the fact that the money isn't coming from a steady source
@@anaisabelribeiro2721good point that the whole family definitely wasn’t ready for that level of wealth, and going the route of living below their collective means would’ve been a lot healthier it’s sad to see kids struggle with parents who really don’t seem to get it and aren’t equipped to parent incredibly famous children
Drew did more justice to these sisters than any of their Managers/Agents ever will.
Nice to see you here!
Exactly!
Holy shit what's a Pakistani doing here?
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Salaam
@@zainabahmad2182 facts
The fact that their parents didn’t get them off of the app when it started to affect them this much kinda shows that they just see them as an income at this point. Can’t imagine letting my 16 yr old have constant breakdowns because of the internet
Exactly! I’ve watched my 3 kids navigate social media, and the second they start comparing themselves to others, or hating themselves because of what others say, or even hyping themselves because of how many likes and positive comments they get, I explain how FUCKING STUPID it is to let other people, mostly strangers, dictate how you feel. Then I’m like, hey y’all each find a recipe and go to the store and get the ingredients and let’s put on some music and cook a meal and dance together. Social media is intended to give us good recipes, not self esteem. Cause fuck everybody, you do you. NO “SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE”, at least not til you know what you want to be like.
@@TheRadiostar72 "Social media is intended to give us good recipes" i really like this. social media for kids shouldn't be completely demonized or controlled, but they shouldn't be allowed to get so absorbed in the worst parts of it
@@TheRadiostar72 you sound like a wonderful parent
@@TheRadiostar72 you are truly a wonderful parent. Ty for making this world a better place for people👊
@@TheRadiostar72 Love that xD. Your right. What good recipes have you found online? I'm always looking for more lol.
The amount of sympathy in this is honestly refreshing.
if only they could see this video... i guess...
@@fantax1280 they probably think it’s a hate video tbh
Hello refreshing
@@cutemissbubbly the thumbnail kinda makes it seem like that
@@cutemissbubbly Wait, I thought this was The Good Place?
10:34 I think in general, the internet tends to hate literal children for no reason at all. I don't really know who this family is, but as you said, people will root for a child to fail because??? They are a teen who made a not so good song??? The internet will declare them public enemy number 1. They will send so much hate and vitriol towards them for no good reason.
Setting our calendars back 11 years, it's exactly what happened with Rebecca Black's Friday. Bad song, but did this actual 13 year old deserve all the bullying she got for it? Adults who mock kids like this are pathetic, they are actual scum.
Not exclusively children, but other than that, yeah. I totally get being upset that they got popular while being talentless, that’s fine, that’s genuine, fair criticism, but anything past that is just harassment and sickening to see
I remember getting into an argument with a friend about Rebecca Black right after that song came out. I found the song really annoying but I thought the hate she was getting was too much, my friend was like, "nah, fuck that girl, she recorded the song she deserves what she gets." and I'm like, "...she's like, thirteen. Did you never do anything embarrassing and annoying when you were thirteen?"
I am so goddamn glad social media didn't really exist until I was like thirteen or so and I wasn't allowed to get any sort of account until I was fifteen.
@@yaboicolleen ew, "she deserves what she gets" hope you dropped that friend soon after
@@superfan364 took me a couple years but yeah, we're not on speaking terms anymore
Honestly, kids shouldn't be famous. They shouldn't be put under that scrutiny. It's too much. It's not fair.
I think Hollywood culture tends to ruin a lot of child fame. Daniel Radcliffe was a child star, but he ended up fine because he got famous outside of that child star sphere
Exactly!!! No child deserves to have that many eyes on them, that's why young popular youtubers stress me out so much
@@maseoembry4165 Daniel Radcliffe got lucky because the Harry Potter series was shot in England. The people around him also made sure he had a proper childhood, or at least as normal as a child star can have. He didn't become a brand or a product, and in his adulthood he has a proper acting career. I think being far from the toxic LA child star culture was incredibly beneficial for him and the other Harry Potter child stars.
@@maseoembry4165 He still became an alcoholic at a very young age due to the stress of being famous and filming such popular movies.
They ain't kids, they're teens. And they put themselves in those circumstances to begin with.
honestly this is just a weird form of modern child labor that’s not taken seriously cause “they don’t do anything but still make money!” as if they’re doing all of the stuff they’re doing and not being exploited by adults
edit: kay i dont think y’all get what i mean, it is ridiculous that they make money from moving their arms a bit but the adults in their lives are making them do literally anything and everything to make money, acting, singing, writing, etc. these are things that takes other people years to achieve and they’re doing it all at once while having all of the pressure they get.
"child labor"
they make tiktok dances and got their own show? they aren't being made to work in a salt mine or stitch shoes. her anxiety is clearly caused by being on an online space, not her parents or anyone pressuring her. i saw no evidence of anyone pressuring her to do anything while watching the show. she's 17 years old and people are acting like she doesn't have the mental capacity to choose things for herself lmfao. legally she's a child but i'm sure she has the brainpower to say yes and no to things. child labor is Ryans Toy Reviews because he is literally too young to realize what he's doing. Charli isn't so i don't get why people are acting like she's being forced to make content. everyone has detractors and online haters and that can and will affect someone's mental state. it's awful and shouldn't happen but i struggle to see how this in any way is child labor. child labor infers some sort of physical or mental labor that is taxing on the child. the only mentally taxing thing to Charli is online trolls and that isn't anyones fault. the only physically taxing thing is actually doing the dances. i just honestly don't get the pity party for famous people simply for being famous. fame comes with hate and pressure. it always has
i also don't see how Charli is being exploited. she has a manager, does he just force her to take show deals without asking her? probably not lol. she no doubt has a say in any projects she does and any videos she puts online. and i can't find any online evidence that her family or managers have taken advantage of her by stealing money or charging exorbitant fees. so i really don't see how she's being exploited. i'm sure Charli has more agency in her own career than you all are making it seem
absolutely i feel like if not for the pressure of their parents they wouldn't have continued doing social media or they would've at least took it easy... its clear that the parents want the fame too (maybe even more than dixie and charli) i mean making a whole reality show about the family? feels like they're trying to benefit off of their children's fame🤷♀️
@@inyrui I started out disagreeing and ending up somewhat agreeing 😂
But one thing I'd like to say is, you have to see that she didn't ask for this lifestyle at the beginning. But now she has made certain commitments (like to her audience, her future prospects, brand deals and all) which she can't just drop. She's in the situation where she can say no to stuff but that would lead to missing potentially good opportunities. Like what if as Dree said, she's earning for the family now? Isn't she feeling obligated to continue to do so? This is mentally taxing job. Child labour.
@@inyrui drew went over all this in the video. There are people that have literally planned out years of their lives for them. They may feel bad about turning anything down because they’re scared to let their family down or go broke. So now we have kids with zero free time, people always telling them what to do, and a bunch of people hating them for no reason. Of course having all of this happening while being rich is nowhere near the worse situation going on right now. But that doesn’t mean you can’t feel any empathy for them
I can't imagine having some else plan a whole year of your life and just tell you what's happening, sounds pretty awful
i swear i have seen you in the comment section of every video ive watched for the past 2 hours
Literally I would hate life
As a college student that has no idea what to do with my life. not going to lie I kinda just a want someone to tell me what to do.
especially when youre like 15, it's insane
Yeah. Also love ur stuff
Is it just me who got reminded of the scene in the movie "The Little Prince," where the girls mom shows her her entire year, down to the minutes she spent for lunch to her daughter? I got chills seeing the scene because... its something that happens in real life apparently and its so depressing and uncomfortable.
I hope the girls get a break and are happy and stable with themselves soon.
I thought I was the only person who knew about that movie 😭
Jeez, it’s exactly like that. Thanks for bringing up such a great movie that relates to the topic.
I really agree with Drew, it’s annoying that rich people without the strive have the resources to be great but it’s not her fault that she has the resources and has pushed into a position where she’s trying to be a popstar
i think charli is really genuine though. in all of her tiktoks she wears basic teenager girl clothes, where as when the kardashians were 17 they were having blow out sweet sixteen, multiple cars, and was wearing over the top expensive clothes. kim even shadowed Paris Hilton just to be able to live a life like her. charli really does seem genuine, honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
@@thatssoari3533 "100% of the cringe is her parents and managers fault"
most people think her content itself is cringe. like the dancing itself is really cringy. i don't think her parents or managers make her do those tiktoks
this is a perfect synopsis of the video thank you!
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw Okay and your point is??
@@thatssoari3533 What does society hate? Teenage girls
What happens when a teenage girl ends up blowing up on tiktok? She gets targeted hate, plus the other stuff in her life. And she is a good dancer, so much so I think she honestly does tik tok dances for fun. Because it's rather easy compared to competitive dance.
I wish her parents cared enough to see the impact it is having on her though. Teenagers should not be famous. It just wrecks your mental health and I'm pretty sure she already needs therapy.
Like being 17. Seeing so many people be angry that you're not dead? You dont get out of something like that unscathed.
Charli says later in the show that she feels she’s under a lot of stress because if she quits then her parents “lose their jobs” … oof
And not even just her parents. She said her parents and her entire team. She's not their employer. If she quits everyone can get a new job. It's crazy that she has this mindset and it makes me think someone told her this.
@@jjb5564 someone definitely did.
Omggggg thats heartbreaking🥺🥺
So dramatic. The family has been millionaires way before their daughters discovered tiktok. I personally know a cousin of the family. They are LOADED. Don’t believe what these tiktok teens say in attempts to drum up sympathy for themselves.
@@owenmayer9089 jealousy just makes u lose all sympathy and empathy huh
This is why I love Drew. He's an understanding, selfless person. He could be simply mocking nonstop the series, he could be just another logic-less hater on the sea of hate that fame brings.
But no, he keeps reason. He analyses the situation and tries to explain to those who may not get how hard things can be come, even if you have all those resources and reach.
He's not just a funny man that berates people, he's a funny man that tries to understand people. It's really wholesome.
Talentless Minecraft Vegan Teacher commentary TH-camrs can’t relate
Aptly said. That's why we stan a funny, empathic and a logical king. 👑 🛐
Well said!
I'm glad he didn't choose to be yet another hater bashing them cause it's so very easy to do, he choose to be understanding.
I agree with Drew's statement of being "mid-tier famous". If I were to be an actor, I'd like to be B-list. Someone like Bruce Campbell. Generally loved by the public, but not in the spotlight constantly.
And even then I'd be iffy about it, given these days and times
I could be A list but bitch when i disappear y'all aint go find me.
there was a comedian who said that he wanted to be the drummer from coldplay. You get to do what you love, be rich and successful. But i dare anyone to name each member of coldplay off the top of your head right now.
Or maybe being the guy in the middle of a bobsled team
oh shit my balls are exploding
I binged the show because I thought it was going to be a kardashian wanabe cringe fest, but it was Exactly how you described it.
Exactly
OMG ASHER
OMG checkmark nice also love ur stuff. Also same
@@nachomom6986 ø
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Solid gold take. It's baffling how people can cry 'Free Britney' and talk about what child actors like the Olsen twins and Jeanette McCurdy went though....while also mocking young people like the D'Amelios
I don't actually think it's baffling. If Drew didn't point this out, a lot of people wouldn't think so. Conceptual connection is a difficult thing, and I think we should appreciate how pensive he is being.
I'm pretty sure that TikTok kids are less likely to be molested by adults compared to Hollywood
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 you’re missing the point completely
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 did you watch the video deaf and blind?
@@user-yj7cu5sk2w None of you have addressed my point either, and no
They've tried to make Dixie a model, an actress, a youtube talk show host and now a singer. Like it's ok to just be regular?? its ok to admit u don't have to have a profitable social media friendly skill.
I honestly think she would’ve had more success doing modeling (I saw interviews that she did some as a kid too) then music like at least people wouldn’t be trolling her 24/7 off it
@@jadered9514 I agreeeee, I think with some training she could really thrive in modeling since it doesn't require the amount of vulnerability that making music does
Man watching her try "acting" was fucking paaaaainful.
Tbh I think it's fine to try a lot of stuff, ppl might think it's annoying but it's all a good experience for the person trying it, I would love to try a bunch of different creative stuff with the budget to do it super professionally even if it sucked just to see what it's like.
@@phosphenevision it’s fine to try it for fun and see, but her parents and managers are forcing her to be good when she’s not
when charli's managers planned out her whole year it reminded me so much of like One Direction and Little Mix on how they are put with these strict managers, being told what to do and having the rest of their lives planned out at such a young age
They did fifth harmony wrong as well, all of those three bands under Simon cowell were put through a lot
Say hi to the k-pop industry
@Anjali I believe it varies from company to company
@Anjali well at the end of the day CEO decides everything
The commentary on Dixie reminds me of how far Rebecca Black has come; it’s only in recent years that she has found her voice and “proved the haters wrong” with her music career. Maybe Dixie can get there one day but she’s currently in her “Friday phase” in many ways
Ngl her new song psycho is actually good. I think she improved a lot.
my thoughts exactly!!
No Rebecca literally looks normal
RB voice is average and she doesn't exactly have a singing career after all that
@@Zero-xd5pp ooft, outing your own terrible taste.
Been saying this for years, people keep complaining about teenage shows casting adults to play teens, but I think teens should go to school, get their first kiss in private, be a damn teen and not be in front of a camera working all day.
About the adults playing teens discourse. People also argue that a lot of these shows just misrepresent teens' lives while making the underage characters do some really questionable stuff. If Hollywood wants to see younger people get it on so bad they could just make the characters college age. They just choose not to for some reasons.
@@annanguessan-ble6488 absolutely, I would much rather watch some college show than highschool... But maybe we will get there eventually lol
I don’t think there’s a problem if there’s a healthy balance of both being a kid while being an actor, but that’s almost not heard of anymore.
I agree, but most people say that their *portrayal* of teenage life is wrong
So much party, drugs and bs which happens rarely in reality.
(side note : I like k drama for this reason. The whole story revolve only about chemistry and bonding of characters. Subtle and beautiful storyline)
idk i don't think there's anything wrong w having teenagers casted in movies or tv shows about teenagers lol,, it'd be kind of weird if none were
Perpetually impressed by your ability to make me laugh while delivering thoughtful commentary... insightful take and a lot of great points about the price these kids pay after becoming new age childhood celebrities.
Leon, you wrote this comment pretty late at night, make sure you always get a full nights rest. Praying for you 🙏 bless up 💯
Love you, dad.
Shut up boomer
@@demirkafasutlac2343 do you know what a boomer is?
@@thebeesknees4894 shut up boomer
I have anxiety disorder. I am a very sensitive person so whenever I see people hating on harmless things, I get extremely nervous. Then I come to this channel to calm myself down. Thank you Drew!Your existence means a lot!
I’ve been waiting for someone to cover this thank GOD it’s Drew
...mickey guy?
yooooo it's mickey man
Who are u?
M-mickey?
This is Danny..
The songwriting thing resonated with me. There's a saying that I've heard in my writing class that you have to write 100 bad songs before you write your first good song. I've written lyrics every night for over a year, and honestly they're all bad. But nobody's seen any of the crappy ~380 songs. Dixie is getting that experience, going through the process of writing those first songs... but in front of hundreds of millions of people. That must be terrifying.
honestly- i can’t think of anything *more* horrifying and their ages. if my failures during adolescence were broadcast to hundreds of millions of people, it would ruin me mentally for a very *very* long time.
very true and shes just doing it in fromt of thousands of people i feel bad
Plus she probably has a bunch of people on her team kissing up to her and lying to her about how good the songs are cuz they know it'll make money either way, then she goes on the internet to see millions of people hating on what she was (probably) told was an amazing song by the people closest to her. The trust issues I would get...
She would be much better off lead singing for band that has completely ghost written songs tbh. She has a voice and an audience. Why waste time with terrible lyrics lol
Cant they just pay someone else to write a song for her and then have her sing it? I thought that is what a lot of singers do
I also genuinely hope that a good sum of charli’s income is being placed into an account that only she can access when she’s older. Not only for her own protection but if some day she decides she doesn’t wanna deal with this anymore, she has the means to give herself a chance to pursue something else or something she’s actually passionate about. Because she’s still young I assume they have financial managers that help them but hopefully they also are helping in her best interest rather than best for their business
I hope so too but I doubt it
@@veronicawilson7594 and that's part of this whole thing right? Like an adult who has had the time to work their way up would have the financial know-how to put some of it away, invest in retirement funds, say no to parents who want to be financially dependent on you, etc. But these girls were just straight up not given the time to learn all of that and are likely getting severely leeched off of by anyone willing to ask.
@@MrSomnix exactly. this has been the case with so many child stars… adults take their money. it’s so easy to take advantage of children’s’ lack of awareness about things like finances. it breaks my heart
unfortunately there are no laws protecting underage influencers from exploitation. yet.
@@solala1312 yet!! i really hope some are made soon (before even more young people are exploited in this industry)
Homie really gave the d'melios solid, compassionate, caring, and wholesome advice. That's so sweet
God, that clip of one of the sisters crying and panicking was so sad. Poor kid.
@Vincent H. uh oh i spot an old guy blaming kids for the pressure put on other kids even tho the problem is the older people telling them how to make other adults money
@@ethereallvr uh oh we gotta run
@Vincent H. it is
That is something teenagers do, famous or not.
@Vincent H. we got another one
Yet again you’ve created a balanced, respectful, and honest examination of something most people would just write off as terrible and move on. I think one of your strengths is having a range of style types: sharply funny, extremely angry (which is somehow even funnier), and truly thoughtful commentary. Love it all.
He is the best❤️
Agreed. That's why he's my favorite TH-cam commentary channel
Well said!
You nailed it👌
i like your big words, chloe
Honestly their parents are sus. Mind you, they were already well off before TikTok. You see your daughter having all this UNNECESSARY pressure on her, then you get your other child involved. Now you allow them both to have the weight of the world on them for what? They literally could've just stuck to (ripping off people's) dancing on Tiktok and be okay. But it's this weird societal pressure that says "DO MORE WHILE IT LAST! DO EVERYTHING WHILE IT LAST!".
Real parents would've stepped in and say 'wait until you're 18' or let's reevaluate the acceptance of this life you want to commit to. As someone who suffers from panic attacks, I can tell you NO JOB is worth submitting yourself to that.
One of them is 20 so
@@thepalestpuertorican she may legally be an adult, but she’s still their child. I’m 25 and still feel like a kid who just wants my parents love and support.
@@thepalestpuertorican Omg, that doesn't negate the fact that she's still their child.
Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
How is it ripping off when all they did was trends. I do t understand why people are mad at them when their videos get more likes than the original. It's not like they control who likes it or not
The amount of compassion and kindness Drew has while talking about this gives me hope.
The way we talk about who “deserves” to be famous is almost like it’s not us making them famous
Whoever can get famous, _are_ the ones who deserve it
It's different to call ur fave artist underrated and to go diss and bully someone else who's famous
I mean seriously it *is* a talent if u know just what to do to grab attention, whether it's negative or positive. But sometimes it's just a slight chance. U can't really blame and crap at someone for that.
Edit: if I didn't make it clear I was agreeing with you 🙂 So many people in youtube have mistook my comments in a bad way T_T
Maybe it's obvious but i feel like the internet created that culture and it's so fascinating how people used to be able to be stars legitimately but now everybody is a self professed critic (including myself). Personally I've always hated the fawning fan culture the world used to run according to but this is well-it's different and has it's bad sides too, and and doesn't really accomplish anything. It's like the French Revolution every few minutes.
@@astanopasta lol it’s fine. i do agree we very rarely acknowledge the soft skill of knowing how to grab and hold people’s attention. it’s just a stripped-down version of marketing.
This. The more you comment and the more views you give videos, the higher the video is gonna get pushed out on the algorithm. Even if you leave hate comments, those are still comments, and the more you leave comments like that, the more people are gonna see her.
THIS
We, as a society, owe Brittany Spears an apology for 2007.
We can start by treating the new generation of young women - Charli Dixie Millie and more - better than we treated her
You are right
Too bad that's never gonna happen
@@mikaahoni1097 exactly this. Everyone looks to the past and goes "oh only if we can change what happened, only if we were nicer" when the exact thing is happening AGAIN to other people. What happened to Britney happened, let's learn from that and try to prevent it happening to other stars. I think she'll appreciate that more than an apology
@@xXInfinityDiesXx "we owe sulli a apology."
sends jennie kim death threats on her birthday
"we shouldn't hate on megan fox just because she is both talented and pretty."
Bullies maddison beer and tells her she can't have anxiety because she is hot
ect ect ect
honestly i feel bad for these kids. they accidentally got famous and now their lives are being controlled by managers. and theyre not allowed to make the dumb mistakes all kids do without everyone seeing and judging them
honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.
@@thatssoari3533 At the same time maybe the parents get pressured to act a certain way in the show and they cant really do anything because now they 14 million dollar house and probably a lot of other shit to handle because obviously the two teenage girls cant handle them
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw because a lot of people are having conversations with me ab it, and I just wanted to tell multiple people and I didn’t feel like writing the same thing over and over again in a different way. if I want to tell three different people the same thing, I can. now if it’s a dumb and hateful copypasta I understand, but this is just my explanation and me tellling four other people, and they don’t even seem to mind as theyre responding to me with levelheaded comments.
@@ojl5055 ikr.. like I do not even think this show idea was charli’s idea, sorry i KNOW it wasn’t, that it was the managers idea. and I think she didn’t think a lot of the cringed stuff would be in the show, bc in a lot of it she’s acting her crazy self and sometimes she’s having mental breakdowns, so I do not even think she knew really was the capacity the show was
I’m just confused why the parents chose to keep using their daughters money. Why on earth did they need to get such an expensive house?
The show seems hypocritical within itself almost, like it’s displaying how much stress and anxiety and pressure they’re dealing with by constantly being seen by the entire world... but like the show is doing exactly that as well.
RIGHT its ironic... the show had its own binder for the year.. OBVIOUSLY this is a huuuge stressor as well
Exactly!
Well, at least the managers hit the nail on the head with their goals for the show. People are way more likely to sympathize with the D'Amelios after watching the show. So probably less hate and more money for them in the future. At least the managers are competent at what they do.
Makes drews case even stronger
I think one of Drew's best commentary qualities is how human he is. Like he doesn't try to villainize what he's critiquing without evidence but instead let's the pros or cons show for themselves.
Jesus Christ he’s not a saint it’s pretty common human behaviour, he ain’t gonna shag you
I'm gonna guess that's it's in comparison to other commentary channels, which seems pretty sad that something as common as that is a rarity in other channels
@@jogonjohn205 calm down would you? it's really not that deep
@@sera1143 neither is your mum
@@jogonjohn205 alright?
There should be a law that protects children from situations like this. Cos parents that push their children into this and leech off them, giving their children a parental role in providing for the family, gives me the creeps.
I heard somewhere this family was quite well off prior to the girls fame, obviously not as rich as they are now. In this particular case, I don’t think the parents pushed fame or celebrity on to their children, it just sort of happened through tiktok, so in most cases I’d agree with parents pushing children to fame to live off their children is very gross, but I don’t think that’s what happened here. I think the parents went along with this because they didn’t want their children to miss out on an opportunity to be set for life before they hit 20 years old, but I’m sure the girls are feeling the full weight of their fame. It was Charli herself that put her in the spotlight, not her parents, unlike with family vlog channels, where young children get thrust into fame without their consent.
A lot of child labor laws don't apply to social media stars too. Their parents don't have to save anything for them and can take all of it.
@@ladidaohoh3168 That is what is happening here. The parents bought a godamn 15 million dollar house with the money that the sister made. That's called exploiting your children.
@@oxxy6678 literally Charli brought up in the series that she wanted to move, so I'm assuming she did not care. Perhaps money is not everything to her. Or maybe she gave her parents the money.
@@asandy4555 So you just assuming they consulted their 16 year old daughter in wasting 15 million dollars that she made on a house for them..? Seems like a reach but you and charlie probably besties
I've never seen Drew just sit down and talk about anything serious like a human being. And honestly, what a good talk. He had really insightful perspectives that I didn't even think about, and helped change my thoughts on these literal teens. It was a great contrast with his normal goofy videos, and I'm prouder now to say that he's a favorite youtuber of mine. Respect earned man.
His jaystation video was kinda like this
"Hi, nice to meet you, you're a child ? Yeah, not anymore, now you're a brand" that funny feeling
big Ryan George vibes
bo burnham?
One of your best videos. Really well said, a little empathy and compassion goes a long way.
Joe
Omg its my best friend and iconic filmmaker/comedian joel haver
Hey Joe
@@ziziisme also animator
Your friends are deviants
If there are child labor laws for actors, and protections put in place that they keep the money they earn, there should be extensions to these kid influencers on tiktok and youtube. These kids need protection from greed.
whenever I hear something about ryan's toy review and how much money he earns, I feel sad; that poor kid has had his childhood stolen by his parents greed for money, and no matter how many times his parents say that he enjoys making videos (which is essentially work) it will never sit right with me
I dont think the boomer law makers know what tik tok is or know how youtube works.
Parents just left their jobs and put everything on her, they just frolicking around shopping and buying houses they will not put one penny into.
I really appreciate your take on this. It’s very easy to poke fun at teenage celebrities for all the “cringey” stuff they do, I’m guilty of it myself to an extent. I appreciate how you are able to actually put yourself in their shoes.
Drew is excellent at empathizing and pointing out interesting aspects of subjects we probably think we've already thought everything about.
Yeah, I've never liked it when adults shit on people who are physically and mentally still developing in so many ways. like at that age an adult's insults are really heavy
There was a video of Dixie crying about someone calling her "musty" and everyone was saying "how is that going to make you cry?" like, these people are minors and get more hate in a day than most people will get in their lifetime. Those comments build up
@@minocah1919 as which ever kardashian said; There are people starving. Who gives a fuck. Your average person online gets called all these sort of nasty names all the time too. These are spoiled rich kids who made a fucking show about how mean people are. I'm not gonna give a fuck.
@@daddy8518 Yep. The internet will be the internet as you can see🤷♂️
i don’t envy charlie and dixie. i think if i was in their position i would just have like never-ending panic attacks.
It’s gotta be lonely at the top
I actually felt really bad for them watching this
Don’t get me wrong I’d love to be rich as hell but I would never want to be famous. I value my privacy way too much.
Also can’t imagine growing up in this time, in general, with social media and having every cringe moment on the internet forever. I had MySpace at like 15-16 but it was on a much smaller scale. That was pretty much it
Charli admitted that she does have dozens of panic attacks a day
They didn't have to take anything
Drew is such a kind TH-camr. We need more like him.
Drew is the only youtuber ever actually
Danny*
danny drew kurtis and jarvis
sadly he’s the only one
@@kendalltibbatts9191 I love how you said Drew and Danny as if they are not the same person
I watched the entire show and as someone that could not care less about TikTok and stupid drama, I feel horrible for these girls. I have anxiety and it’s like hell on Earth, but imagining having anxiety PLUS having hundreds of people criticizing small things like what color eyeliner you’re wearing?? How would ANYONE be able to deal with that, let alone two teenage girls?
I wouldn’t care I’d have money for life
@@JakeYolk bait
i have 0 sympathy for ppl who complain about their own consequences. if they complained about hate comments from tik tok i would understand, its something they cant control but having to deal with contracts and projects is their problem, they signed up for more money and as micheal scott says "mo money mo problems"
i cant side with them if theyre being greedy and agreeing to more things thatn they can handle
Their parents are definitely exploiting them for money. This is unethical for a show.
The idea of people becoming famous before they have a talent to market, and then being forced to develop a skill that takes years to forge in maybe a month is something that I've never heard verbalised but have been made aware of so many times.
Exactly
Exactly
I wonder how much they’ll resent their parents in a couple of years.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that but no one would really be surprised. The sad part is it isn''t *really* the parents fault, granted I haven't looked into them a ton so maybe I can't accurately speak on this. But in the parents defense, they are just as new to this fame/money situation as their kids are. However, its a parents job to protect their children and assure the best for them. If they decide to take advantage and capitalize on this situation then that's really shitty, but you gotta remember they are pretty much in the same boat, very new to all this fame/attention.
Can't really imagine anything prepares you to handle this situation as a parent. I get that capitalizing on it poorly would be seen as a shitty thing to do, but also I'm sure they're trying to do everything in their kid's best interest. I bet a lot of parents would love to give their child the experience to be the star they want, I just don't think Charlie and Dixie want that. It sucks because they're not gonna get to try other crafts that aren't associated with fame that they may truly enjoy and be talented at.
This is really off topic but I love your cute little fennec fox pic 😍
imo their parents can avoid or even reverse that possible trend by putting their foot down at crucial moments when their "managers" are pushing them too hard or want them to do things they aren't comfortable with.
The way their entire year is planned out for them sounds so overwhelming. It's like they know once they're done, there's another binder waiting for them :/
it’s okay they’re rich
@@francissanto12 ??? rich or not, i think they should still be able to experience their teenage years?
I would honestly shut down. I'd be out of it.
-brain could not compute
-shutting down
To be fair our lives are all planned out in binders, they’re just full of question marks and budgeting so you can eat the next day. These kids get the benefit of having someone control their future for them while also having the disadvantage of having someone control their future for them. The parents are shit.
@@francissanto12 rich people are still human lmao you guys are something else
The parents are equally to blame for this just as much as the managers.
"Kim there's people that are dying." I normally hate people that say shit like that but omg that was hilarious
It’s truly an iconic scene lol
@@shannonceleste5557 I never watched it but I'm sure it is lol
Parts of the UK, France specifically is working on a program that allows children and teens to work as influencers but they have to get their hours approved BY THE COUNTY- not their parents- so there’s less of a chance of overworking or exploring their kids for views.
Is there a link to an article or a petition or something because I support it 100%
This was such a jarring thing to read and comprehend, we live in such a bizarre time rn
I wonder how they will enforce it? Hmm
I'm wondering how they're going to set their hours because influencers do a broad range of things. Shoots for Instagram pictures, meetings with brands, filming, editing and then uploading videos etc.
@@krahvata yeah the line between consuming content for fun and creating it is a fine line
It's really concerning how their parents aren't doing much to help them too. If I saw my kids practically breaking down everyday crying about how much stress and anxiety they're under I would definitely try my best to cut things down to the point where everything would be much easier to handle. Their parents are the biggest concern here it totally looks like they're exploiting their children for as much profit as they can make. Also, hope that the sisters can get through this stressful period of their lives. I look forward to seeing them showcase their talent on their own will in the future
I loved the way you wrote it.
their isn’t much they can do the called off meetings dixie is grown they don’t have control over her and charli is 17 and they can’t help her unless charli can communicate what she needs
Probably the parents aren't prepared for all of this either. I agree and would do the same that you said, but I have some sort of understanding on social media branding because I'm gen z, they don't and even if they hire people to educate them on that to help their daughters, they'll probably gaslight them into keep exploiting their kids.
@@melisacaceres8740 the point about the parents being not prepared is spot on 👏 yea people blame them but you're right, they're probably just as clueless and confused
@@veesaos8316 still, seeing their children breaking down from stress constantly and still doing nothing about, sounds abit strange
I absolutely adore the way you talk about stuff. You treat subject matters with sensitivity and sincerity. Don't be sorry not putting jokes in this one, the video and your commentary was superb. You actually made me feel better about my own anxiety as well.
I hope Dixie and Charlie see this and actually reflect on their lives and make good choices for their future.
As a teenager, like, around Charli's age teenager, I couldn't imagine the stress she faces every day. I can barely handle all of my school work. Hell, I can barely get through math class without a breakdown.
Hell… I’m 22 rn and sometimes get stressed just by the thought of going to work 😂 Idk how Charli manages everything
The older I get the less appealing fame sounds. I now have zero privacy and everything I do gets picked apart even after I die? Yea no thanks
i'm 15 and my biggest concern is biology homework... i can't imagine what she's going through. it's why i never got the unnecessary hate and anger older people feel towards her. it has always felt immature and honestly kind of toxic. i don't get why people concern themselves with so much negativity.
Hang in there avery, I’m slightly older and life gets better than maths class. One day, though, you’ll look back on HS fondly.
I’d rather have Charlis life than school :/ I would maybe do things a bit different to be less stressed but I would love that life
The "I don't feel sorry for them because they're rich" sentiment goes straight out the window when we're talking about children- human beings historically not in control of their life, still developing mentally and emotionally, known to be easily taken advantage of. I feel terrible for these kids because no amount of money undoes the impact of constant scrutiny and pressure to succeed in a career on a still developing brain.
Yeah that’s true
I agree with you, I feel like I rarely sympathize with the rich, but anytime children are involved, my heart goes out to them. It's always the kids who wind up hurt because the adults in their lives messed up.
THERE ARE STARVING PEOPLE OUT THERE, SO DO ME A FAVOR AND STOP THIS BULLSHIT OF "THIS IS THE PRICE OF FAME" OK?!
@@miclegendgaming6766 Chill tf out
@@DeathnoteBB i dont want to.
So Charli gets rich and famous overnight > why does that immediately mean the family has to move into a huge ass expensive home which they might not be able to afford anymore if say, Charli’s fame subsides or she decides not to do entertainment anymore because she’s literally still a child????? (She’s 17.) Her parents are responsible in my honest opinion. That’s a lot to put on your kid.
100%
They were already rich
Is not like they lived in the middle of nowhere aswell, the family lived only an hour outside of New York City, so they could’ve gotten the same or similar opportunities if the family stayed back home and just let them have a bit of a more normal life (until they graduated high school at the very least). Really no need to uproot yourself like that if you care about your kids well being.
@@demilevine2458 I’m so tired of hearing they were just a “normal every day family.” They were literally already filthy rich and set for life. These people have never had to struggle
@@heather_doestruecrime yep they had an almost million dollar house before and her parents had good paying steady jobs