I’ve been a fan of this company for years now. Followed the forums and all that. Thanks for making some content on it. Much appreciated, looks like a great time.
It certainly has features that make it appealing for doing the Great Loop, et al, such as shallow draft, short air draft and, in our case as seasonal boaters, trailerability. If I were single it might be ideal but the stateroom separated by a weather deck, lack of an island berth and wet head are non-starters for the wife.
As a past Gulf of Alaska long liner, that pilot house is the best ride. That concept is stellar and converting a system to simi-planning would be a big seller as well...Utilizing some of the new solar roof panels and power options would be a good branch development and keeping the form and function would keep those speedy's happy. But overall truly a well-thought-out little ship. KUDOS from Tugboat Willy
Any modern 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup can handle upward of 18k lbs towing. Nothing bigger or heavier than some of the 5th wheels that RVers are hauling around the country.
A Dodge 3,500 is rated at 15,100. It sure can tow more, I have done it locally. The problem comes with lawyers if you get into an accident. There would also be an issue with insurance. Just because you can does not mean you should.
Can't get my head around that" GOING OUTSIDE TO GO INSIDE" thing, living in the Northeast where it get COLD!!! maybe move the Wheel house forward and add stairs to the sleeping area
interesting concept- i can see how this might be the lowest cost option to go the furthest- eg 500 miles from nearest gas station. One gripe I would have is getting from pilothouse to front cabin in a rainstorm wouldn't be fun.
I saw one last year on YachtWorld where they added a fixed Bimini with flexible solar panels that offered rain and sun protection to traverse the cockpit (as long as it’s not coming in sideways, lol).
@@jmartini2387 There are some pics online of it "CAHOOTS" is the name of the boat. Looks a little rough, I'm sure someone will come up with something that looks less like a cage but the idea is great, it makes the space a lot more usable. Solar panels are also a bit plus and looks like it extends to be a tender davit at the rear.
Clifford DeRouen U S M C. As owner and Capt of 50 foot oyster dredge the swing 34 34 four blade four inch shaft. Five years after I purchased the vessel I installed a nozzle making the nozzle in two pieces I was able to swing my same wheel. I built it my self with rolled aluminum quarter inch plate. It improves every function speed by almost half. Thrust!!!!???. The first time I dropped the clutch in fowerd it almost knocked me down. The next year I removed the nozzle and placed a slight taper to the aft end of the nozzle. And we'll that improves every function. With the tapered of the nozzle it improves the proformance to almost half. Saves on fuel and rpm
Their website hasn't been active since Dec 1, 2021. It says, production will be by the Marine Manufacturing Group (MMG) of Painesville, OH and not Washington. Zero info since then. Can't sell boats with that type of PR. Great little ship.
They may be working on the on-board propane system since a brand new one blew up and sank in Ipswich MA as a Not good in any brochure. Of course, that unit was built in China, so....... Not to worry though, some really scrupulous boat dealer in Long Island, NY was selling it as "used".
I think this is what my boat wants to be when it grows up. But I can love it just how it is, and it's affordable. (Finn 8, 26ft, centre cockpit, aft wheelhouse/"saloon", fwd "stateroom", sorry, doghouse, 25hp Beta.)
I really wonder about the range. That's 10 nm per gallon. At what speed? I make just about 10nm per gallon in a 7500# sailboat driven by an 18hp yanmar steaming at 5kts 2500 rpm. This boat is twice the displacement and four times the hp. I dont get it.
definitely a nice boat, but for Long Island Sound a version with a stronger engine would be very helpful to enable the boat to transit some of the tidal rip areas when the water is running through, especially if there is any kind of chop. We have everyday tides up to +- 5-6 kts. and without a stronger engine, the boat will have to time its voyages for the general area of slack tide.
I'm not a naval architect, just going by what the guy says on the tape which is cruising speed 6-7 kts. and I assume that means in flat water, more or less. Huntington Harbor is in the inner part of Huntington Bay, not really sure what you are referring to. That's not a particularly challenging area of Long Island Sound but if you get out into the Sound there you have 3-4 knot currents on a regular basis, and you can easily get 5-6 foot chop. And there are areas where the currents are more like 5-6 knots, and slightly larger waves, those areas can get quite choppy. The guy says its an 85 horsepower motor, so maybe the issue is the way they have it geared, I don't know. But I can tell you in Long Island Sound if you have a motorboat, you want one that does more than 6-7 knots cruising speed. It's not fun if the sea kicks up and you're underpowered and lose steerage. You can wind up not being able to make a safe port. It looks like a very nice boat. Has some displacement, nice freeboard, low center of gravity, enclosed steering station, definitely a nice boat. But in L.I.S. you do in fact need to be able to maintain a bit more speed than 6-7 kts. including heading into a chop. And when they say 6-7 kts. cruising speed they probably mean in flat water, or pretty flat. Maybe different gearing would resolve it, I don't know. Again, I am not a naval architect, but it looks to be a pretty robust little vessel, probably there's a good chance they could offer a version with a little more power; either with more horsepower or different gearing.
also, I know they can also tinker around with different propellers. If I had to guess, they have the boat set up to get great gas mileage, but in L.I.S. if there's the slightest bit of weather, you'll probably want a little more power. Either more horsepower, different gearing, different propeller - that's all for a naval architect to ponder.
@mattlechner8442 If you add more power all it will do is raise the bow, and bury the stern. The boat will become very tender as it does this. This is a full displacement, not semi-displacement. It baffles me why people think they can take an economical boat with adequate power and want to fundamentally change it into something it was never meant to be.
@@PatMonks actually that is not correct. The boat needs more power, unless you have some kind of special plan to deal with the 5-7 knot tidal flows that are commonplace in channels all around the world. And God Forbid there is a little chop. Probably the propeller engineers have to be consulted, see what they say about installing a variable pitch propeller, or simply one that throws more water.
I gotta say 'prove it' to anyone claiming 10 miles per gallon on a boat. 10 miles per gallon!! Have you gotten anywhere close to this in real world? I'd be shocked if 5 mpg. 85 hp on 33' LWL I'd be thinking closer to 3.5 mpg. Prove me wrong please, that would be so cool to get that range
Trailering a 35' boat is a tall order and would take a very serious, expensive truck. I don't see myself doing this and would be happier with an additional 2' of beam and more interior space.
Clifford DeRouen U S M C. When you jump over board Do not have your boat on anchor. Reason why if the current is strong the current is going to push you away from the boat if you can't swim Against it you will not be able to get back to the boat. Let the boat drift with you.
Hello Clifford, 5 months later and I’m reading your question! I do let the boat drift while swimming in the bay due to currents. Now that I’m in the tropics, I anchor, swim away, and enjoy what nature has to offer under the sea.
Might be a bit underpowered not a speed issue but dealing with currents although swinging a 22 inch wheel 4 blade is impressive. So I could be wrong on that . That engine is simple and very rugged you will be very happy with it . Ray marine good stuff and George is a happy edition ( auto pilots are named mine was George . Best crew I ever had . Keep us updated I like the concept except Florida dictates AC and shade and more speed . This boat fits your coast perfectly. Enjoy Oh and I agree big strong anchors provide restful sleep lol .
Nice looking vessel. To me it’s impractical with the focsle entrance and 8’6” is to narrow. Who is going to be launching a 16k pound “trailerable” boat that’s 36 feet long. Make the beam 13’6” and add a second beta 85 and you’ve got a boat that would justify the price tag
I don't understand the use case for this boat. A trailerable full displacement hull with two thousand mile range, access to engine room only in good weather, sleeping and toilet/shower areas accessible only by braving the weather. Dragging your dinghy out from under your bed, hauling it up the stairs into the cockpit to inflate it is not my idea of a fun cruise. Eighty gallons of water on a boat with a 2,000 mile range is a joke. This is a day boat, at best a weekender, with aspirations that it can't fulfill.
Nice video but what does "no issues with headroom mean?" Does that mean the headroom is over 5ft, 6ft, 7ft??? Also, you stated that you're comfortable standing in the bathroom. How tall are you? Standing and telling viewers your height and allowing us to see would go a long way to highlight what is meant by your general statements. Take care and enjoy your boat.
man I would be upset if I bought the last chinese glass seapiper just before the 15th and ideally American-laid hull. None of their vessels belong in our market commonplace or not they are totally unreliable in lamination schedule and quality
Probably go wa further if it didn’t plow so much water.Never seen a vessel slide water up the stem,almost up to the rail,while steaming on glass.Probably does good in a sea though.
Nice boat but the whole time showing the guy talking and not enough footage of the vessel.
Spot on! Going to the website
@@gregmarchegiani6656 Hopefully a better video is there
It could have been so much better with more of boat and less him. Looks like a nice boat but kinda hard to tell with so little shown.
This guy sure loves to hear himself talk. Narcissist alert. Hey buddy show the boat
@@gcanada3005 The only narcissist I see around here, is you.
I’ve been a fan of this company for years now. Followed the forums and all that. Thanks for making some content on it. Much appreciated, looks like a great time.
It certainly has features that make it appealing for doing the Great Loop, et al, such as shallow draft, short air draft and, in our case as seasonal boaters, trailerability. If I were single it might be ideal but the stateroom separated by a weather deck, lack of an island berth and wet head are non-starters for the wife.
As a past Gulf of Alaska long liner, that pilot house is the best ride. That concept is stellar and converting a system to simi-planning would be a big seller as well...Utilizing some of the new solar roof panels and power options would be a good branch development and keeping the form and function would keep those speedy's happy. But overall truly a well-thought-out little ship. KUDOS from Tugboat Willy
I've seen them advertised, nice to see one in the water and get the low down. Thanks!!
Beautiful boat. Would like to see some footage of it being loaded onto a trailer and being towed.
At nine tons that would be an 18 wheeler.
It’s a short scene, but there’s a video on here where they are putting one in the water. They are towing it with an RV
Any modern 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup can handle upward of 18k lbs towing. Nothing bigger or heavier than some of the 5th wheels that RVers are hauling around the country.
A Dodge 3,500 is rated at 15,100. It sure can tow more, I have done it locally. The problem comes with lawyers if you get into an accident. There would also be an issue with insurance. Just because you can does not mean you should.
And a trailer to haul 18,000 lbs weighs how much?
Guy loves his boat knows his boat
The storage system for on-board propane is seriously suspect since Hull #10 (or #11) exploded and was totaled in Ipswich MA.
Can't get my head around that" GOING OUTSIDE TO GO INSIDE" thing, living in the Northeast where it get COLD!!! maybe move the Wheel house forward and add stairs to the sleeping area
Agree stupid design to go out in weather to go or come from bed
Good narrative...nice cadence for visual and auditory storytelling! Goodonyas! Now let's go...and the adventure begins!
interesting concept- i can see how this might be the lowest cost option to go the furthest- eg 500 miles from nearest gas station. One gripe I would have is getting from pilothouse to front cabin in a rainstorm wouldn't be fun.
I saw one last year on YachtWorld where they added a fixed Bimini with flexible solar panels that offered rain and sun protection to traverse the cockpit (as long as it’s not coming in sideways, lol).
@@jmartini2387 There are some pics online of it "CAHOOTS" is the name of the boat. Looks a little rough, I'm sure someone will come up with something that looks less like a cage but the idea is great, it makes the space a lot more usable. Solar panels are also a bit plus and looks like it extends to be a tender davit at the rear.
Wish they would mention the cost
@robertluce9494 goes against the business model of "buy the boat and worry later"
@@RLoose9494 If you need to ask, you can't afford it! Just dream on, like me!
Clifford DeRouen U S M C.
As owner and Capt of 50 foot oyster dredge the swing 34 34 four blade four inch shaft. Five years after I purchased the vessel I installed a nozzle making the nozzle in two pieces I was able to swing my same wheel.
I built it my self with rolled aluminum quarter inch plate. It improves every function speed by almost half. Thrust!!!!???.
The first time I dropped the clutch in fowerd it almost knocked me down. The next year I removed the nozzle and placed a slight taper to the aft end of the nozzle. And we'll that improves every function. With the tapered of the nozzle it improves the proformance to almost half. Saves on fuel and rpm
16:43 Really nice boat. Very impressed with the range and efficiency. Would be cool if it had a place for a backup outboard engine just in case.
It does not carry gasoline normally.
Their website hasn't been active since Dec 1, 2021. It says, production will be by the Marine Manufacturing Group (MMG) of Painesville, OH and not Washington. Zero info since then. Can't sell boats with that type of PR.
Great little ship.
They may be working on the on-board propane system since a brand new one blew up and sank in Ipswich MA as a Not good in any brochure. Of course, that unit was built in China, so....... Not to worry though, some really scrupulous boat dealer in Long Island, NY was selling it as "used".
The boat did not sink. It was an issue with a loose fitting under the stove. Propane locker is located outside in the stern seating compartment.
Might be the best boat ever built
I absolutely get this concept as an ex professional mariner (2NO FG) What a stunning vessel! Well done. What is her range and draft?
In vid it said 2000 mile range. And less than 3 feet draft.
I think this is what my boat wants to be when it grows up. But I can love it just how it is, and it's affordable. (Finn 8, 26ft, centre cockpit, aft wheelhouse/"saloon", fwd "stateroom", sorry, doghouse, 25hp Beta.)
I love it... I think I found what I am looking for. Thank you so much for the video.
Saw one docked in Beaufort NC today; really liked it.
Nice boat!!! I would add a small wing engine if possible and a water maker. Plus and additional 100 gallon diesel tank.
Nice sights. East brother Island, Richmond San Rafael bridge, Carquinez bridges.
what a really nice looking boat, not sure about the color but that can be sorted /.
I really wonder about the range. That's 10 nm per gallon. At what speed?
I make just about 10nm per gallon in a 7500# sailboat driven by an 18hp yanmar steaming at 5kts 2500 rpm. This boat is twice the displacement and four times the hp. I dont get it.
Ein interessantes Boot, vielleicht nicht um Eindruck zu schinden, aber um eine gute Zeit im Sommer zu verbringen ...
What a great video!! Almost same specs of my nimble Wanderer.
Nice color hull!!
definitely a nice boat, but for Long Island Sound a version with a stronger engine would be very helpful to enable the boat to transit some of the tidal rip areas when the water is running through, especially if there is any kind of chop. We have everyday tides up to +- 5-6 kts. and without a stronger engine, the boat will have to time its voyages for the general area of slack tide.
I Know, the sound is too much for a boat like that, especially Huntington Harbor.
I'm not a naval architect, just going by what the guy says on the tape which is cruising speed 6-7 kts. and I assume that means in flat water, more or less. Huntington Harbor is in the inner part of Huntington Bay, not really sure what you are referring to. That's not a particularly challenging area of Long Island Sound but if you get out into the Sound there you have 3-4 knot currents on a regular basis, and you can easily get 5-6 foot chop. And there are areas where the currents are more like 5-6 knots, and slightly larger waves, those areas can get quite choppy. The guy says its an 85 horsepower motor, so maybe the issue is the way they have it geared, I don't know. But I can tell you in Long Island Sound if you have a motorboat, you want one that does more than 6-7 knots cruising speed. It's not fun if the sea kicks up and you're underpowered and lose steerage. You can wind up not being able to make a safe port. It looks like a very nice boat. Has some displacement, nice freeboard, low center of gravity, enclosed steering station, definitely a nice boat. But in L.I.S. you do in fact need to be able to maintain a bit more speed than 6-7 kts. including heading into a chop. And when they say 6-7 kts. cruising speed they probably mean in flat water, or pretty flat. Maybe different gearing would resolve it, I don't know. Again, I am not a naval architect, but it looks to be a pretty robust little vessel, probably there's a good chance they could offer a version with a little more power; either with more horsepower or different gearing.
also, I know they can also tinker around with different propellers. If I had to guess, they have the boat set up to get great gas mileage, but in L.I.S. if there's the slightest bit of weather, you'll probably want a little more power. Either more horsepower, different gearing, different propeller - that's all for a naval architect to ponder.
@mattlechner8442 If you add more power all it will do is raise the bow, and bury the stern. The boat will become very tender as it does this. This is a full displacement, not semi-displacement.
It baffles me why people think they can take an economical boat with adequate power and want to fundamentally change it into something it was never meant to be.
@@PatMonks actually that is not correct. The boat needs more power, unless you have some kind of special plan to deal with the 5-7 knot tidal flows that are commonplace in channels all around the world. And God Forbid there is a little chop. Probably the propeller engineers have to be consulted, see what they say about installing a variable pitch propeller, or simply one that throws more water.
What's the Admiral going to say when she has to cross that cockpit in heavy seas and rain to use the head?
I'm not seeing the reason or any advantage to a center cockpit. What's up with that?
Great boat, nice video, would like a little more visual of the interior 👍
I gotta say 'prove it' to anyone claiming 10 miles per gallon on a boat. 10 miles per gallon!! Have you gotten anywhere close to this in real world? I'd be shocked if 5 mpg. 85 hp on 33' LWL I'd be thinking closer to 3.5 mpg. Prove me wrong please, that would be so cool to get that range
I like it but I would like to see all doors watertight.😊
I agree!
U said it all but wats the price for one of these boat.its buiteful
Wow that would be amazing on the Great Lakes
yes iycwould
Nice layout, east coast in Florida we need ac and are they on the east coast now
Was that a Zephyrhills bottle of water holding the coolant?👌🏽
i really like this desighn!
Are you going to get one of the new propellers for this boat?
Good looking boat
need the head but waves are breaking over the bow? if you want to sleep in bad weather you must get wet on way to berth?
Excellent review of this fine small vessel. I would add a genset and air conditioning for warm climates. Looks pretty sea worthy. 🐻🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸
How much are these boats?
Trailering a 35' boat is a tall order and would take a very serious, expensive truck. I don't see myself doing this and would be happier with an additional 2' of beam and more interior space.
What is the price for a well equipped boat such as yours. Thanks Ed
Clifford DeRouen U S M C.
When you jump over board
Do not have your boat on anchor. Reason why if the current is strong the current is going to push you away from the boat if you can't swim Against it you will not be able to get back to the boat. Let the boat drift with you.
Hello Clifford, 5 months later and I’m reading your question! I do let the boat drift while swimming in the bay due to currents. Now that I’m in the tropics, I anchor, swim away, and enjoy what nature has to offer under the sea.
Might be a bit underpowered not a speed issue but dealing with currents although swinging a 22 inch wheel 4 blade is impressive. So I could be wrong on that . That engine is simple and very rugged you will be very happy with it . Ray marine good stuff and George is a happy edition ( auto pilots are named mine was George . Best crew I ever had . Keep us updated I like the concept except Florida dictates AC and shade and more speed . This boat fits your coast perfectly.
Enjoy
Oh and I agree big strong anchors provide restful sleep lol .
love it!
Not my piece of cake, but very nice boat and would be great to spend a week on it along the coast.
I absolutely love this boat Whats the Price Tag on it. I want one.
THANK YOU
Nice looking vessel. To me it’s impractical with the focsle entrance and 8’6” is to narrow. Who is going to be launching a 16k pound “trailerable” boat that’s 36 feet long. Make the beam 13’6” and add a second beta 85 and you’ve got a boat that would justify the price tag
Super nice boat💯
What's the asking price ?
How about a dimension for head room. I am 6'5" and head room is the deal breaker.
In the 37' video the guy was 5'11" and he had maybe 6" clearance so you're gonna be right at it.
What happened the part where the boat is trailered?
beam is 8.5 feet, 10 is the trailerable limit
I don't understand the use case for this boat.
A trailerable full displacement hull with two thousand mile range, access to engine room only in good weather, sleeping and toilet/shower areas accessible only by braving the weather.
Dragging your dinghy out from under your bed, hauling it up the stairs into the cockpit to inflate it is not my idea of a fun cruise.
Eighty gallons of water on a boat with a 2,000 mile range is a joke.
This is a day boat, at best a weekender, with aspirations that it can't fulfill.
So add a watermaker and grow some balls. The range and efficiency are amazing.
You didn't show us the front cabin
What is the biggest boat they built?
We can hear you, we don't need to see you, show us the boat.
$200,000 ish?
Nice video but what does "no issues with headroom mean?" Does that mean the headroom is over 5ft, 6ft, 7ft??? Also, you stated that you're comfortable standing in the bathroom. How tall are you? Standing and telling viewers your height and allowing us to see would go a long way to highlight what is meant by your general statements. Take care and enjoy your boat.
I am 5’10”
Wher is the sea ladder?
You don't mention the price so it must be free
Too much of you and too little of the boat. PRICE???
I'm not sure I get it, but hey interesting boat
One day when I win the lottery I'll buy this boat.
can you add mercury outboard 300HP and 25HP
They only do the 8000 hp. Turbo blaster motor
в кругосветку на таком можно или только прибрежное плавание ??
Why are you explaining what things "look" like in a VIDEO??
can someone take it to Europe from the UK?
200 gallons and 2,000 nm? How?
we would like to see the boat, and instead we saw a guy in a cap, too bad 😢
Needs a small mast to finish it off ...🙂
I would want to be in sight of land in this vessel!
Roll control?
I think that’s what the Seakeeper does.
Amasing! Simple ane yojfull !
All I can see that it needs is a water maker. 80 gallons isn't very much if 2 or 3 people are drinking, showering etc...
yes itcdise
No issues with bangin.. your head
Why wouldn't you video the boat and narrate what we would be seeing? Weird
draft 2 foot 11 inches
I served on a us aircraft carrier in the 80s and our co had the supply dept sell "kill a commi for mommy" buttons. I lost mine! Cheers
No trawler gets 10 nautical miles per gallon
That boat will get 30 miles per gal.
Like driving a rock through mud.
⚓❤⚓🧡⚓💛⚓
man I would be upset if I bought the last chinese glass seapiper just before the 15th and ideally American-laid hull. None of their vessels belong in our market commonplace or not they are totally unreliable in lamination schedule and quality
merçy ektriç out virds 3600 wats baré keß then 750 waytz 4 hoúrs tope spred idel
No Doubt! Whole video is just footage of dood talking while steering. No Tour of Boat , huge waste of time.
confusing review
Too much uninteresting information
fake window shots. wtf?
Not a good video, didn't show much at all.
Use Awwww less
Make stupid comments less.
You can't trailer that.👎
35' is beyond the capability of most people to trailer. Seriously big wide, heavy load you would need at least a 1 ton truck, preferably a dually.
Probably go wa further if it didn’t plow so much water.Never seen a vessel slide water up the stem,almost up to the rail,while steaming on glass.Probably does good in a sea though.
Good in sea and helps cut fuel consumption