The Indo-European Sky Father

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  • The Proto-Indo-Europeans of the Pontic Caspian Steppe and other parts of Eastern Europe in the neolithic worshipped a paternal deity who they called Dyḗus ph₂tḗr “sky father”. With comparative linguistics and comparative mythology we can learn a lot about this ancient god from whom Greek Zeus, Roman Jupiter, Irish Dagda, Vedic Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ and Norse Odin and many others also derive. In this video I explain what we know about the god’s mythic roles relating to cattle, his relationship to other gods in the Indo-European religion and his association with different animals in later pagan religions.
    The Sky Father is the most well attested of all the Indo-European gods and is central to our understanding of Proto-Indo-European religion.
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    Music in order:
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    Altyn Tuu - Altai Tuva
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    Ormgård - Sjálfsforn
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    Sources:
    Anthony, D., ‘The Horse, the Wheel, and Language’ 2007. amzn.to/3wOUyUQ
    Dumezil, G., ‘Mythe et Épopée’ 1973
    Dumezil, G., ‘Mitra-Varuna: An Essay on Two Indo-European Representations of Sovereignty’, 1988. amzn.to/3gON9iX
    Kershaw, K., ‘The one-eyed god: Odin and the (Indo-)Germanic Männerbünde’ (Journal of Indo-European studies monograph) 2000. amzn.to/3qrPUKg
    Lincoln, B., ‘THE INDO-EUROPEAN MYTH OF CREATION’ 1975
    Matasović, R., ‘A Reader in Comparative Indo-European Religion’ 2010
    Mylonas, G. E., ‘The Eagle of Zeus’ 1946
    Puhvel, J., ‘Victimal Hierarchies in Indo-European Animal Sacrifice’: The American Journal of Philology , Autumn, 1978, Vol. 99, No. 3 (Autumn, 1978), pp. 354-362
    Puhvel, J., ‘Comparative Mythology’ 1987. amzn.to/3xJVdHb
    00:00 Intro
    01:34 Indo-Europeans and their beliefs
    03:55 Comparative mythology
    05:00 Linguistics
    07:55 Identifying the sky father
    11:15 Indo-European cosmogenesis
    14:24 Celestial vs Terrestrial and Hieros Gamos
    16:24 Sovereign gods
    17:15 Zeus
    18:34 Horse twins
    19:49 Sacrificial beasts
    22:28 Bulls
    23:21 Eagles
    24:52 Wolves
    26:25 Conclusion

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  • @dittbub
    @dittbub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    "primordial cow"
    i've been called worse.

    • @Jumpoable
      @Jumpoable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LOLOLOLOLOL

    • @jdavid50
      @jdavid50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol

    • @ianwilkinson4602
      @ianwilkinson4602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bullocks :-)

    • @pruthweeshasalian3688
      @pruthweeshasalian3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's quite alien to us Indians how you Westerners use 'cow' as an insult, when the cow is such a massively useful animal, and especially so to you Western folk who are mostly lactose tolerant.

    • @jdavid50
      @jdavid50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@pruthweeshasalian3688 That's true, but nobody wants to fuck a cow. That is the context the insult is used in. It means that a female is fat and sexually undesirable. It doesn't mean that she can't make a sandwich or do the dishes.

  • @crypticknight3578
    @crypticknight3578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1266

    I've always wondered where the concept of 'mother nature' comes from. Learning that she is the counterpart of a 'skyfather' makes so much sense. Thank you!

    • @funkyfiss
      @funkyfiss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      When it rains, that's the holy union. By ancient standard's.

    • @MrAnsatsuken
      @MrAnsatsuken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Fathet Sky & Mother Earth.
      Father Sun & Mother Moon.

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@MrAnsatsuken We also see mother sun and father moon in some cultures but I think sky and earth are (almost) always m/f to my knowledge

    • @mankuqhapaqii4798
      @mankuqhapaqii4798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Mother nature has existed in countless isolated human societies.

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@mankuqhapaqii4798 All modern humans come from a group of approx. 100-1000 individuals that originate from Africa, and it could be a practice older than homo sapiens tbh

  • @brunofelipe9330
    @brunofelipe9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +866

    The way he combines culture-history-linguistics and religion is incredible.

    • @leekenyon8705
      @leekenyon8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The evidence of such connections to other cultures are weak at best and such similarities are not that uncommon because such ideals can come into existence separately believing otherwise is like calling people dumb, stupid or that such ancient people did not have imagination or had trouble coming up with their own stories that is of course a way of insulting other cultures and religions and even less intellect peoples can achieve more with writing and storing information and knowledge and a class of educated people since knowledge and technology is build upon knowledge and technology that needs to be passed on to new generations and is very possible that modern man is less intellect then he was in the past and less able to survive in the conditions of their ancestors existed in thus the belief of Europeans greatness being locked in the ice until it thawed allowing the growth of nations that are maintained by the food source farms, how many of your children will survive in the far north without heating and technology ?What choices will cause them to live or die and reproduce offspring that may or may not live to carry on the blood-line and traits of their forefathers. The northern wind of death was even more ruthless in such ages making man hide in holes and tents thus hel is frozen and unheated, how many millions of babies died of the cold over such generations? The modern age is where weakness grows and reproduces more easily and can even result in the dumbing down and the corruption of the populations.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@leekenyon8705 They literally have the same names. Zeus Pater. Iupiter. Dyáuṣ-pitṛ́.
      There is no evidence that people today are less intelligent than people from 10,000 years ago.
      The rest of your comment is just worthless drivel. You sound like someone who thinks they're deeper and more insightful than they really are. I suggest learning how to think better before trying to sound intelligent.

    • @knoahbody69
      @knoahbody69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@minutemansam1214 If you put D instead of Z, Zeus becomes Deus, the Latin word for God.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@leekenyon8705 Your opinion has pros and cons. If you wanted to say that fight for survival is good for intellect, than you suport Wall street. The same is with telling that our children are weak. I don`t like to my children to live in wild west with colt in the hand. Alsotoday a lot of children, people are dying every day of starvation and illness. Maybe in next 20-30 years west civilization will be inferior to third world - China, Brazil, India etc. Nowadays world has more power, science, resources and knowlidge then people in all history until now. It is just matter of ethics and humanity to make a world better. But if I look almost all comments, everybody is interesting about battles, conquering, fight, defeat etc. That in`t proper way to survive onthe earth. In last 30 years we have done everything to destroy earth. The same future as people on Easter island have done in history. They have cut allthe threes on island and hacehad problems withfood and other condition. Our wayis today the same, just we don`t haveanother island to rescue ourselve.
      Now we don`t need to fight but to cooperate and to stop destroying everything. GREED ISN`T GOOD AT ALL!!!

    • @zoushuu
      @zoushuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leekenyon8705 Hello, I don't mean to come off as rude, but your text it not very reader friendly, as about two thirds of it are one very very long-running sentence.

  • @jurikurthambarskjelfir3533
    @jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    "Spread out and conquer, my sons."
    "Yes, Sky-Father."

    • @jurikurthambarskjelfir3533
      @jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@navaneethkrishnan5401 The comment is inspired by another comment I found on a video by Ollie Bye, called something like "spread of the Indo-Europeans".

    • @rennor3498
      @rennor3498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      And when the ran out of land to conquer they conquered themselves.

    • @NeoStoicism
      @NeoStoicism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I hungrily search for the next unconquered realm -- Now, bring me that horizon.

    • @shaunhooker85
      @shaunhooker85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      evil. not our god. an alien obsessed with invading. THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST!

    • @ErPuglia
      @ErPuglia ปีที่แล้ว

      This explain why we (the descendants of the Indo-Europeans) are basically a two-legged war-machine

  • @saimanslayys9374
    @saimanslayys9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Funny how indra and zeus from hindu/greek mythology have the same story as well. Both lived in mountains(amravati/olympus) and fought the giant serpent vritra/typhon using vajra/lightning bolt.

    • @kasturipillay6626
      @kasturipillay6626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It does sound funny. But if you look at how these languages are intertwined it makes sense. All of us are linked in some way.

    • @joebombero1
      @joebombero1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Look up a guy named Velikovsky, specifically his book "Worlds in Collision". Fascinating stuff with a lot of comparitive mythology.

    • @justicebydeathnote
      @justicebydeathnote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait i thought indra lived on mt. meru

    • @erenyaeger9407
      @erenyaeger9407 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He lives on Mt. Meru, Airavat is the name of his vehicle which a white elephant

    • @Tonixxy
      @Tonixxy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because as it's already mentioned they all have the same origin in the religion of Aryans.

  • @randomperson6141
    @randomperson6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +914

    Divine Father :
    Vedic: Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́,
    Greek: Zeus Patēr,
    Illyrian : Dei-pátrous,
    Roman : Jupiter (*Djous patēr),
    Scythian : Papaios for Zeus,
    Palaic : Tiyaz papaz.
    Divine Twins :
    Vedic : Divó nápātā (the Aśvins),
    Lithuanian: Dievo sūneliai (the Ašvieniai), Latvian: the Dieva dēli,
    Greek: the Diós-kouroi (Castor and Pollux)
    Celtic: the "Dioskouroi”
    Thunder god :
    Indra (Vedic), Indra (Avestan), Inara (Hittite), Thor (Germanic ), Perun(Slavic), Perkunas(Lithuanian) - this is a cognate for Vedic Parjanya.
    Goddess of Dawn :
    Uṣas (Vedic), Eos (Greek), Aurora (Roman), Aushrine (Baltic), Auseklis (Latvian)
    God of Rain :
    Varuṇa (Vedic), Odinn/Wodan (Germanic), Ouranous (Greek)

    • @randomperson6141
      @randomperson6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @הרב בן הרב בן גור אריה יהודה
      Who cares ? All gods are false gods.

    • @christophersuarez6490
      @christophersuarez6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you so much!! This is amazing!!

    • @christophersuarez6490
      @christophersuarez6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @הרב בן הרב בן גור אריה יהודה All gods are false, and the judeo-Christian god was also one in a polytheistic system of Canaanite deities with wives and children and everything until Abraham just decided that wasn’t the case.

    • @karstais
      @karstais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Latvian mythology doesn't really have the twins, but it does have a thunder god. His name literally translates to "thunder"

    • @rays5163
      @rays5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Even without taking into the account the a other comments in this thread the "g" was capitalized because it was the first word in a list item, not because it was being used as a proper noun

  • @mihanich
    @mihanich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1450

    Gigachad Skyfather: "Go and conquer as far as your eyes see"
    Indo-european Chads: "yes, Skyfather".

    • @jaklm4221
      @jaklm4221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Ready the chariots
      Let's spread war and fire

    • @colonelmilk2586
      @colonelmilk2586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @Globglogabgolab 2.0 lol beta male thinking homosex is a crime but the strongest empires like the Greeks or romans would disagree

    • @gerryk12
      @gerryk12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @Globglogabgolab 2.0 found the fash kid

    • @x-fun3149
      @x-fun3149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @Globglogabgolab 2.0 yeah and then the bottoms rose up and now we have hole-peg equity

    • @mihanich
      @mihanich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@uvizachan because too much chadness

  • @PopTartNeko
    @PopTartNeko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    Etymologists in the next 3000 years be like:
    > skedd
    > skeded
    > ske dedi
    > sky daddy

  • @louispellissier914
    @louispellissier914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    You forgot to mention that Myceaenic greeks worshipped a sky god called Diwo, which is closer to the PIE Dyaus than the later Zeus

    • @varalderfreyr8438
      @varalderfreyr8438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      You thought it was Zeus, but it was I, Diwo!

    • @angelaflying9591
      @angelaflying9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That sounds a lot like dio in italian

    • @lifelessons7401
      @lifelessons7401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Couldn't it be just another case form of the noun? Since genitive of Zeus is Dios, dative is Dii and accusativ is Dia. There are for sure correspondences.

    • @shadmanhasan4205
      @shadmanhasan4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Considering how psychotic of a diety zeus was, i think Dio from jojo would be a good Derivative

    • @aryadeepghosh9782
      @aryadeepghosh9782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do the Mycenian Greeks originate from the island called Crete?? I think they vanished and the Minoan greeks survived.

  • @diarmuidsheehan4927
    @diarmuidsheehan4927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    As an Irishman, I love to see our ancient history and philology mentioned in your videos. It reminds me that all our myths are linked and are retellings of the same primordial Truth, which is the same if you're in India or Ireland 🇮🇪♥️

    • @Fein811
      @Fein811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes brother🇮🇳🚩

    • @akshay1542
      @akshay1542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Diarmuid, what a name! Great to know that you don't hate these belief systems but also appreciate them.

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, not a truth, just a common human impulse.

    • @deutscherfischer55
      @deutscherfischer55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joshuataylor3550 if it’s a common human impulse that makes it true

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshuataylor3550 humans have an impulse for truth

  • @The_Gallowglass
    @The_Gallowglass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    My father used to come down from the sky with his weapon of choice: the belt. Shit hurt.

    • @zosiab1742
      @zosiab1742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's what you get for posting cringe like this

    • @The_Gallowglass
      @The_Gallowglass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zosiab1742 Ok.

  • @InsaneInsomniac1
    @InsaneInsomniac1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    When you mentioned how the Storm God became the first dragon slayer by using a hammer, my brain immediately connected it to how Thor fights and kills Jormungandr

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Serbs have idea that saint George who has killed the dragon was Scytian or Iranian who has killed Chineseor Mongols (they have dragon on a flag).

    • @thisismyhandle745
      @thisismyhandle745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Look up the Chaoskampf, storm gods killing a serpent/dragon is such an ancient story it can be found in India (Lord Indra) to Scandinavia.

    • @Edgelord-rn9he
      @Edgelord-rn9he 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @InsaneInsomniac1, and so The Dragon Born (Dovahkiin) was born at 13:13

    • @dylanroemmele906
      @dylanroemmele906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thisismyhandle745 So if the Vikings did conquer India they would get a long pretty well then

    • @yonathanrakau7279
      @yonathanrakau7279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not that much suprised, the germans were among the most related mythologically toward original indoeuropean

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1252

    Very fascinating

    • @mikavikesland9611
      @mikavikesland9611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      And very Indo-European

    • @Toddoss5875
      @Toddoss5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nice to see you here!

    • @darktyrannosaurus22
      @darktyrannosaurus22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *Dyæus bless you

    • @freestylevimto3109
      @freestylevimto3109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Leigh Jordon Because we never called ourselves that

    • @truthseeker8123
      @truthseeker8123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Say Aryan. Their name for themselves. Don’t be censored, or ignore the truth. Political correctness destroys science.

  • @dan5708
    @dan5708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Probably the most high quality history channel on youtube.

    • @stephenbrand5661
      @stephenbrand5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mark Felton is also very good if you're into 20th century war history.

    • @jccrouse7943
      @jccrouse7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephenbrand5661 Also Fire of Learning is great

    • @wyattwilbourne530
      @wyattwilbourne530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Check out Asha Logos as well. Amazing stuff. Probably my favorite channel right now

    • @stephenbrand5661
      @stephenbrand5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Hardline Firewire Yeah well I'm pretty sure a Russian American Jew (Sergei Brin I think) started Google so makes sense for TH-cam to be sensitive to Jewish concerns overall. I hate how that guy TIK always tries to push his personal politics when he analyzes Hitler and National Socialism. He tries to tie Hitler to socialism in general as a way to criticize the latter but his analysis really only makes sense if the Social Democrats, the largest party in interwar Germany by far, didn't exist. AND if the Night of the Long Knives hadn't purged Strasser and the rest of the left wing of the Nazi Party in 1934.

    • @calum5975
      @calum5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's a well known racist and fascist tho, some horrible connections to political groups. A few of his videos are horribly researched and based on century outdated racial theory, such as one on Ancient Greek ethnicity. He's got a good presentation voice, but as for the quality of the actual history, it's questionable at best and outright missinformation at worst.

  • @MegaMementoMori
    @MegaMementoMori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    This division of Poseidon and Zeus is quite interesting - in Mycanean Greece, Poseidon was considered as the most important God before the Dark Ages came along and allowed a power shift to happen.

    • @sarthak1109
      @sarthak1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Just like indra and vishnu .

    • @tamerofhorses2200
      @tamerofhorses2200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is your source for claiming Poseidon was the most important for Mycenaeans?

    • @MegaMementoMori
      @MegaMementoMori ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tamerofhorses2200 Check the Overly Sarcastic Productions videos - they have some neat videos about the evolution of Greek mythology.

    • @tamerofhorses2200
      @tamerofhorses2200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MegaMementoMori I mean a properly academic source. Does Overly Sarcastic Productions cite actual archeological and/or linguistic evidence?

    • @MegaMementoMori
      @MegaMementoMori ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tamerofhorses2200 I am not writing academic documents but replying to a YT comment, so the source research standard is slightly lower. I think that such big and erudite channels would not resolve to taking facts out of thin air - at most they would pick one of the many different interpretations if there was a scholarly debate. But again - I do not link Greek mythology with my career, so this is good enough for me.

  • @tiffanyhendricks1860
    @tiffanyhendricks1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Reminds me of Tengrism, it may be more shamanistic than polytheistic, yet still a great admiration for the sky god.

    • @ProtoIndoEuropean88
      @ProtoIndoEuropean88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      All polytheism is originated in Animistic shamanism.
      the spirits of the mountain, of the water, of the sun, of the sky have developed into Gods after the common spirit of the dead of an ancestor has been differentiated with the spirit of nature and a higher dominating spirit. The divine or aka a God/Goddess

    • @wyattspittler2771
      @wyattspittler2771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Ebionarius Subotai was also the name (or very close to I can’t remember exactly) of one of Genghis Khans most badass generals

    • @matheuroux5134
      @matheuroux5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Well if you think of it, those Proto-Indo-Europeans were steppe people and their culture was probably similar to later Tengrist Turks and Mongols.

    • @pruthweeshasalian3688
      @pruthweeshasalian3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Different culture, same spirit. Appreciation of and gratitude towards nature's elements, with personification (deistic) or without personification (animistic), is ubiquitous among non-Abrahamic traditions.
      This is why Indo-Europeanism, Dravidianism, Tengrism, Korean Shamanism, Daoism, etc. are mutually compatible, and when they meet, tend to create syncretic cultures rather than communal enmity. There have been wars between some of said cultures, though, but these wars were not a means of religious subjugation, but of redistribution of wealth.

    • @pruthweeshasalian3688
      @pruthweeshasalian3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wyattspittler2771 You're right. The writers picked a Tengrist name for a Tengrist character.

  • @architsharma6524
    @architsharma6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    This explains why Cow (cattle) is sacred in Hinduism, the whole civilization is circled around it.

    • @lets_wrapitup
      @lets_wrapitup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@OkarinHououinKyouma yes in the bible, in the Quran it’s depicted as 6 long periods or eons, not specified. Lol offended indian

    • @caniblmolstr4503
      @caniblmolstr4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Archit, if you searched a little more you would get to know that Greeks too held Cows sacred. And called it the mother and animals of Hera.

    • @abhishekrai1060
      @abhishekrai1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@lets_wrapitup yeah earth and vegetation came eons before Sun like stated in your false new man made religion. Hinduism is considered oldest active religion by both western and eastern historians

    • @lets_wrapitup
      @lets_wrapitup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@abhishekrai1060 stated where? Dont just claim bs and and not back it up. And you don’t even know the definition of Islam, when you do get back to me. Some people don’t even recognise Hinduism as a religion, and I’d say the same about islam, Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all the same, but Islam would be the purest out the 3. And all that it means is to be monotheistic, to submit to the will of God... even plants are Muslims. So if you have a brain you!d realise the first creation would be by definition, a Muslim. I don’t care if there was a clay tablet depicting some guy sitting cross-legged on the ground 😂😂😂 offended hindu

    • @abhishekrai1060
      @abhishekrai1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@lets_wrapitup On 7 days of creation, on 3rd day dry ground and plants were created and on 4th day sun moon and stars were created. Plus this world began only 6000 years ago 😂😂. Only a fool and brainwashed people like you believe that. They knew they were newer religion and to remain the first religion in the world they negated all other things from before

  • @SuperMrMuster
    @SuperMrMuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    In Finnish, the Christian God is frequently referred to as "Taivaan Isä" which means father of heaven or father in the heavens. As you may or may not already know, Finnish language and culture contain many ancient Germanic, Pre-Germanic and Proto-Indo-European words and elements, so this may be significant. This all said, I cannot say how old this custom of calling god the father of heaven is. It might not be connected to the Indo-European custom.
    Then again, in kalevalan folk poetry, one of the most common epithets of Ukko the Overgod is "Taatto taivahinen". Taatto is a very archaic word meaning father, and seems like it might be a loan from Proto-Germanic "attô". Taivahinen means "heavenly" or "sky-residing". The form of this word is archaic.

    • @macchernac8922
      @macchernac8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The slavic word for father is ''Tata'' so ''Taatto tivahinen'' would be ''Father God in the Sky''. Another thing of note is how the word for ''God'' and ''Giant'' are used interchangeably more often than not and Giants being part of the family for most of the Indo-European pantheons.

    • @perfectpREdAtori
      @perfectpREdAtori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I just realized how similiar the word ''Taivas'' is to word Dyeus, Tiwas, etc.
      My mind just blew open.

    • @usernotfound40412
      @usernotfound40412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Interesting, I speak Kashmiri (a north Indian Dardic Language). We have a similar word 'Táavan' which is used as an indicative of bad omen or bad luck for/to parents. Weird!

    • @SuperMrMuster
      @SuperMrMuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@whatsallthebrouhaha I suspect as much as well. That's why I had to look back to an earlier example in the kalevala-style poetry. The folk poetry has ancient origins, so there are decent odds that the calling of the overgod of the pagan religion as a sky father is an old tradition, independent of Christianity.

    • @SuperMrMuster
      @SuperMrMuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@perfectpREdAtori Finnish "taivas" might be derived from Proto-Balto-Slavic "deiwas" or indeed from Indo-Aryan "daywas". The linguistic ancestors of both the Finns and the Indo-Aryan peoples used to inhabit the Eurasian steppes at the same time.
      In either case, the word does go back all the way to Dyeus.

  • @Emiliapocalypse
    @Emiliapocalypse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    I need a shirt that says “Thank the indo-European sky father it’s Friday”

    • @luddity
      @luddity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Freya's Day.

    • @victorcode2075
      @victorcode2075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      TDPIF : Thank Deus Pater it's Friday

    • @sedwillful
      @sedwillful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wednesday would have been better; that's Odin's day. Odin is a Skyfather. Friday was his chick; like Iron Man's AI unit.

    • @sarthak1109
      @sarthak1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Or thank to indo European earth mother it's Friday .

    • @jacobandrews2663
      @jacobandrews2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sedwillful I think Saturday is a better day to pick

  • @geminiblue6677
    @geminiblue6677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    "The sky impregnates the earth with rain, so she will bear crops". Very kinky..

    • @ThePSmoke
      @ThePSmoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Check out some Mesoamerican art. There is a reason rain is depicted to look like a bunch of falling dongs.

    • @viridianacortes9642
      @viridianacortes9642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh. 😎

    • @compulsiverambler1352
      @compulsiverambler1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They probably genuinely thought rain and sperm worked in the same way, which was just a big mystery in both cases.

    • @spiritualnofwup9555
      @spiritualnofwup9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely made up shit

    • @ThePSmoke
      @ThePSmoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@spiritualnofwup9555 is this the part where you tell us about Jesus?

  • @richb3802
    @richb3802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    An interesting and well put together video. Would be interested in learning more about the Indo-Europen Wolf Cult. Cheers Tom.

    • @TonyfromTO
      @TonyfromTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ive wondered if werewolf and berserkers came from wolf and bear clad warriors. I think assassins creed 2 made an interesting interpretation of roman wolf cults. id like to hear a pan-european or eurasian account.

    • @brettanomyces7077
      @brettanomyces7077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, would love to see him do a feature. These are so well put together and fascinating.

    • @richb3802
      @richb3802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mr. A. Knight Thanks. I'll look out for it.

    • @TonyfromTO
      @TonyfromTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @rgb Brown does this explain romulus and remus? Maybe a prototype?

  • @anonymousinternetuserfawke3295
    @anonymousinternetuserfawke3295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'm glad someone with enthusiasm for history and the origins of things is making programs like this. When the person who put together the work cares, it shows, and it's nice to see someone share that with others. In a sea of lowbrow mainstream shows that cover topics that would be a real stretch to consider history-related, this really stands out.

  • @alexjann5802
    @alexjann5802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I broke down and started crying the moment I saw a bibliography list on a youtube video. Thank you bro. Great work

  • @t-boneshteak8426
    @t-boneshteak8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    We dont say "hello" in the Irish language, we say "Dia dhuit" which literally means "God with you".

    • @ogimia
      @ogimia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      we say the same in Serbia "God with you" and other side responds with "with you is God" (something like that)

    • @francesco9281
      @francesco9281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      in italian we use "addio" to say goodbye, which is an abbreviation of "vai con dio" o "ti raccomando a dio" which roughly translate to "go with god"

    • @Dover78
      @Dover78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Isn’t “Goodbye” a contraction of “God be with you/ye”?

    • @francesco9281
      @francesco9281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dover78 apperntly yes it is, I didn't know that haha. Well I guess most of western languages have the same way to say goodbye

    • @wertyuiopasd6281
      @wertyuiopasd6281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@francesco9281 In French people say "Adieu" ; dieu= god.
      And it also means "farewell" or "farewell for ever" or literally : "to God" or "go with God".
      Italian and French are so closely related, yet they're still heavely indo-europeans.

  • @nemes4932
    @nemes4932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    One of the most important channels. Thank you for your work, Tom.

  • @nabu213
    @nabu213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Algorithm boosting comment

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Algorithm boosting reply

    • @NeedyBabyGreedyBaby64
      @NeedyBabyGreedyBaby64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'm great - Algorithm boosting boast

    • @nuwanmc
      @nuwanmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Veda

    • @gloopz9525
      @gloopz9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      purple bananas

    • @iUser3gs
      @iUser3gs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ironic, this video does not come up on youtube search, whatever the combination of words or even the exact title. It's shadowbanned. I came here from facebook, this is not possible to find on youtube. This video can't be found on Google either. only link comes up is his own blog. You can try it.

  • @YoungOddo
    @YoungOddo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Was talking to a girl and she sent me this. Shes a keeper 😎

  • @OK-qg6ct
    @OK-qg6ct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    In Hawaii "Wakea" is the Skyfather that came down to earth and mated with "Papahanamoku" the earthmother. The couple is considered to be the parents of the Hawaii's Ruling Chiefs and the islands people. Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain in the Hawaii and actually the largest mountain overall in the world, standing at 33,500ft from base to peak. Mauna Kea is known to many Hawaiians as "Mauna O Wakea" or "Ka Mauna A Kea" meaning (Wakea's Mountain).
    Super cool video, very fascinating. Thanks for sharing!

  • @GaborSzabo747
    @GaborSzabo747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Interesting. In Hungarian paganism (which is Tengriism) there is only one god, the Skygod, or Skyfather. His consort is Earthmother, their daughter is Tündér Ilona who is queen of fairies (tündér) and seems to be identical to Greek Helena Tunderos.
    Skyfather is the sun itself which travels through the sky at day on his horse pulled chariot. Pulling this chariot is heavy, so the horses sweat, this sweat falls down to Earth and creates morning dew.
    In mythology we have something similar to horse riding twin brothers. There were two brothers, Hunor and Magor who became the mythical archfathers of Huns and Magyars (Hungarians).

    • @MinecraftSons
      @MinecraftSons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I have observed great similarities with Tengrizm and Proto IE Religion. I dont know if Magyar Tengrism has a life tree but Turkic one has and belongs to the Mother Umay. Its interesting to see how similar the religions of the steppes are.

    • @MichaelLockardTV
      @MichaelLockardTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Based

    • @user-ed9qu5im2y
      @user-ed9qu5im2y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Makes me wonder if they share an even older origin with the PIE mythology, or if there was some sort of cross-cultural influence long after the ancestors of Proto-Uralic and Proto-Indo-European people split off.

    • @matheuroux5134
      @matheuroux5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@user-ed9qu5im2y Well the steppe lends itself to cultural exchange. All of these steppe peoples have many overlaps.

    • @slickboxingidentityveritas1932
      @slickboxingidentityveritas1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@user-ed9qu5im2y I think it's cross-cultural influence most likely, but an older root branching off is certainty more interesting to me.

  • @kalypso9948
    @kalypso9948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    It is so fascinating to learn about proto-Indo-European, from which so many different people originated... It's like being part of a huge family! 😉

    • @eddiesid1149
      @eddiesid1149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      We are.

    • @otterwithagun1982
      @otterwithagun1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Indeed. As a historian and one who is into genealogy... I can tell you that almost everyone, literally, is related. Why I say that wars are a civil/family war.

    • @kalypso9948
      @kalypso9948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@otterwithagun1982 So, every war is actually a civil war... That is even more cruel... And thinking about that, there are many myths about the killing of brothers, parents and relatives...

    • @nonofyebiz1205
      @nonofyebiz1205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ... so many different GROUPS. We are still ONE People..😉💖💖

    • @pranabmallick01
      @pranabmallick01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kalypso9948 Well
      All came from Africa
      So yes!
      We are all Homo Sapiens

  • @maximilianusofmarchaorient596
    @maximilianusofmarchaorient596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A friend recommended this channel to me and I am very pleased with your work and passionate videos.

  • @bensondavido4525
    @bensondavido4525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great production. Not only is your research fascinating but your editing and sound design is of very high quality. I would like to request a video on Heimdallr. I was always fascinated by that god and his connection to the roman pantheon Janus and Apollo/Helios

  • @oldnorth2666
    @oldnorth2666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I stumbled on a book today in a charity shop called Cossack: Warrior Riders of the Steppes.
    As I skimmed through the pages I was reminded of this channel and our nomadic horsemen ancestors who came from that region.
    Now you upload this, wonderful! Made my day.

    • @erikf.7696
      @erikf.7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      On my mother's side, her Male lineage are descended from Cossacks, they had to leave Russia in 1930 because of filthy communism. I found it to be an interesting addition to my mostly Anglo-Scots heritage. While Western Europe was experiencing its prosperity over the hundreds of years since the renaissance, these brave warriors were holding the tides of steppe tribes at bay.

    • @darktyrannosaurus22
      @darktyrannosaurus22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Cossack lifestyle was and is very Indo-European. It makes sense because they also traditionally lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppe.

    • @erikf.7696
      @erikf.7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very true. They have stayed in the land that our ancient ancestors lived in for thousand of years. They defeated and survived through many waves of foreign invasion...adapting to new military strategies over time to help defeat their enemies.

    • @zekun4741
      @zekun4741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe this is largely due to geography. Western Europe was largely made up of woodlands and large forests, which made it impractical for light cavalry, while Eastern Europe was and is largely open fields and steppe land, and lightning fast light cavalry, or what we could call proto-hussars, always dominated warfare in the region.

    • @erikf.7696
      @erikf.7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zekun4741 yes, if we look back into our recorded history of the region we can go back as far as Roman historians who noted the Sarmatians were very good cavalry men.

  • @feedYOURchildrenKORN
    @feedYOURchildrenKORN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The quality of your videos only get better as time goes on! You truly deserve all of your patrons and more. It's unreal how incredible your videos are! When my children reach the appropriate age, I'm showing them ALL your videos.

  • @user-fz9si5fq6d
    @user-fz9si5fq6d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an amazing video! I truly enjoy learning about different cultures and the research and lore building done in this video is truly **chef's kiss**. Thank you so much for creating this amazing video!!

  • @maxmusashi7540
    @maxmusashi7540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your work. Most videos require more than one listen. Much appreciated.

  • @noahdanielg
    @noahdanielg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Glad to see a new STJ documentary, always a joy! Hope to see some more on Guénon and Traditionalism on here.

  • @MilordGaming
    @MilordGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @landofthesilverpath5823
    @landofthesilverpath5823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this channel, so much great history here! Thanks for all the hard work, it's very inspiring.

  • @lenardkennedy5522
    @lenardkennedy5522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are exceptionally intelligent, informative and so correct. You deserve a award.

  • @Akhen.
    @Akhen. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You've put so much interesting info into one big coherent video, it's simply amazing, i don't think anyone could compete with you!

  • @missnorthumbria3658
    @missnorthumbria3658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This gave me chills! Astounding Tom 😊 Thank you.

  • @brentlichtenberg
    @brentlichtenberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very well organized, which made it much easier to follow.

  • @GriffinParke
    @GriffinParke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just re-watched this again and its still great. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @ScentOfaNerd
    @ScentOfaNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best videos on your channel. Keep up, this is outstanding!

  • @seankessel3867
    @seankessel3867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn brother, it's about time! And thank goodness it was worth the wait.

  • @angelcathairs
    @angelcathairs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are an amazing creator! Very glad I found your creations

  • @oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo
    @oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Your videos changed my life. I went deep into the mythological rabbit hole and my worldview has changed.. for the better. Thank you so much. You really are doing the lord's (deus pater) work.

    • @DominicPandolfino-xu5ud
      @DominicPandolfino-xu5ud 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Celts were Aryan.All Indo -Europeans were Aryans.,and vice - versa.

  • @Yog-Sothothery
    @Yog-Sothothery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another incredible production. I find videos such as these which delve into the absolute primordial origins of our people to be the most compelling. Based and, dare I say it, Evolapilled.

  • @519forestmonk9
    @519forestmonk9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic video, and the music in the background is lovely. I usually find music distracting in videos like this, but this is wonderful.

  • @antonvarela3287
    @antonvarela3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nicely documented and beautiful montage. Currently studying this vast topic at my university, it's fascinating. Keep it up

  • @Jumpoable
    @Jumpoable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most informative. Thank you Professor Jive. Subscribed!

  • @j0hn4th4nd03
    @j0hn4th4nd03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant as always. Thank you for your work.

  • @nilsolofleif8886
    @nilsolofleif8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video! Very immersive and enlightening! Thank you!

  • @therealtulip
    @therealtulip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, it’s been a long time since I listened to a TH-cam documentary with such rapt attention! Kudos!

  • @eshuut9049
    @eshuut9049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another truly top notch content, thoroughly enjoyed this documentary.
    Thank you.

  • @stevethedreamerofdreams6444
    @stevethedreamerofdreams6444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great video. Thank you so much for the effort that went in to making it.
    And thanks to the Sky Father.

  • @parchment543
    @parchment543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really good video!! Much respect for repeatedly publishing new and informative videos for free and for always improving the filmmaking and editing. I’ve seen much growth and improvement on this channel and I can’t wait for this year’s Yule!!! :) 🎄 🕯

  • @thepatriot8514
    @thepatriot8514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 🙏 for looking out for us.

  • @kingslanjohn
    @kingslanjohn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video Tom... fascinating stuff

  • @fernwehn5925
    @fernwehn5925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful. As always, top notch content.

  • @luketaylor3347
    @luketaylor3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible! Thank you for your work!

  • @eclecticshopukltd
    @eclecticshopukltd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sir. I could listen to all day. Loving this channel.

  • @r_4027
    @r_4027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    absolutely fascinating, thanks for all the effort you put into your videos

  • @user-eo3wg9tz4f
    @user-eo3wg9tz4f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please, do more of these kind of videos. They are Fascinating!

  • @AxionXIII
    @AxionXIII ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve often thought that Odin was in fact a modern amalgamation of the Celtic Morrigan and Perkunas.
    It’s a shame little of Baltic mythology survived. I imagine it could have have offered phenomenal insight had more been written down.

  • @supisadhamabutra1339
    @supisadhamabutra1339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    No wonder why Rama, who descended from Surya,the sun god and Surya also somehow a child of the Sky in some sources, have sons with Sita ;Luv and Kush, This cycle of the male embodiment of Sky having a children, two heroes of mankind who born from a female embidiment of Earth never ends in every way of IE cultures
    Edit: OMG THE CHANNEL GOD HAS GAVE ME A MINI HEART, THANKS!!! ,from Thailand

    • @kanekirana9530
      @kanekirana9530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am from India.. And wanted to know that in Thailand people still know about Hindu Gods/stories? Like Ramayana or mahabharata? Or they follow bhuddism only

    • @supisadhamabutra1339
      @supisadhamabutra1339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kanekirana9530 yo, here's an answer
      Thai culture especially those that link to the monarchy have huge reference in Ramayana, the king was deitified as an avatar of Vishnu ,some even had "Rama" in their name. And Ramayana also being popular and even got adapted into Thai version called Ramakirti
      Unfortunately, Mahabharat was less interested in Thailand.

    • @kanekirana9530
      @kanekirana9530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supisadhamabutra1339 so it's kind of ramayan is adapted into thai bhuddist culture?

    • @incubusk8r
      @incubusk8r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@supisadhamabutra1339 it makes sense why ramayan was adapted rather than mahabharat, especially in the royal lineages of thailand.
      because Ramayan is a story about a great king and how a king should behave, according to dharma.

  • @aidan8342
    @aidan8342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks for your hard work

  • @righttobloodydissent
    @righttobloodydissent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video thank you for this refreshing history lesson.

  • @pippin1111
    @pippin1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Damn, I knew Zeus was derived from Dyeus, but I never put together the Jupiter etymology, that’s fuckin wild.

    • @owlmaster1528
      @owlmaster1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is even spelled Dzeus...

    • @coollguyyyarzoo9095
      @coollguyyyarzoo9095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owlmaster1528 r u christan?

    • @akiraasmr3002
      @akiraasmr3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and Jesus and Yahweh where based off of Zeus its crazy how much one is influenced by the other

    • @jacobandrews2663
      @jacobandrews2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@akiraasmr3002 Jesus and Yahweh come from completely different mythologies. They originate from semitic beliefs in the levant, from a previously polytheistic pantheon.

    • @dylanroemmele906
      @dylanroemmele906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobandrews2663 Jesus comes from, Jesus? Second, the original commenter is wrong and doesn't know what they are talking about, but somewhat right. Zoroastrianism heavily influenced Judaism and later, Christianity. While the Torah is as far as we know the closest we get to the original religion, everything written afterwards is directly influenced by Zoroastrianism.

  • @skyhill4979
    @skyhill4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing video, thank you so much!

  • @Tetonhiker007
    @Tetonhiker007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved seeing the bit on Mt Lykaion; I worked on the site for two seasons and now much more what was found then makes more sense when I think about the sacrificial altar and the contents of what were found there.

  • @riddickriddick9520
    @riddickriddick9520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yet another great video Tom!

  • @pakshirajan8585
    @pakshirajan8585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Dyaus is my Father, my begetter: kinship is here. This great earth is my kin and Mother. Between the wide-spread world-halves is the birth-place: the Father laid the Daughter's germ within it.

  • @hiranyamukherjee6876
    @hiranyamukherjee6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just absolutely love your content! And you present it so well time! What can I say, I'll just stay tuned in! :3

  • @na7698
    @na7698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting!

  • @petemc808
    @petemc808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating! Really enjoyed it! Came here from Twitter for a politics break.

  • @banijska_krajina
    @banijska_krajina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    In Slavic faith wolfs are connected to the sun god Dazhdbog.

    • @Stefanthro
      @Stefanthro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My dear namesake, aren't wolves more closely connected to the god of the so-called underworld Veles?

    • @banijska_krajina
      @banijska_krajina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Stefanthro wolfs I think are seen as ancestors, and Dajbog is seen as the forefather of the Rus and Serbs, except that Dajbog is also believed to visit the underworld during night times.

    • @banijska_krajina
      @banijska_krajina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Stefanthro Bears and serpents are connected to Veles.

    • @Stefanthro
      @Stefanthro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@banijska_krajina Ahh ok, thanks for clarifying. Pozdrav

    • @banijska_krajina
      @banijska_krajina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Stefanthro no problem.
      Pozdrav

  • @Christopherfrost13
    @Christopherfrost13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You got a subscription from me today. I have been looking for a channel like this. Thank you

  • @anibeto7
    @anibeto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At 20:21 cattle sacrifices were offered to gods in ancient India, but it became so wide spread that there was no cattle left for farming, so the society restricted cattle sacrifices and in course of time cows became holy. That is the reason cows are worshipped in the northern parts of India, and cattle slaughter is banned across many places in India.

    • @uniqguy111
      @uniqguy111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BS. Buddhism banned it.

  • @FortressofLugh
    @FortressofLugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great work

  • @anibeto7
    @anibeto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    At 18:53 the Ashvin twins are also mentioned in Mahabharata where they reincarnate as Nakula and Sahadeva.

    • @Sandesh_Gee
      @Sandesh_Gee ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aren't nakula and Sahadeva their sons?
      Rather than reincarnation

    • @anibeto7
      @anibeto7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sandesh_Gee Sorry my bad, they are there sons.

    • @shivkumar0810
      @shivkumar0810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GyanTvAmitthey were sons. Of second wife.

  • @TheProtagonizer
    @TheProtagonizer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    INCREDIBLE video and research, subscribed.

  • @EssenceOfBanana
    @EssenceOfBanana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The production quality here is superb.

  • @watcherspirit2351
    @watcherspirit2351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great information, careful analysis. Thank you.

  • @therightreads1561
    @therightreads1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The temple complex shown at the very end of the video is the Ellora Caves, and the big building was the Kailash temple, the largest monolithic structure in the world. I’ve had the privilege of visiting there twice, and its amazing.
    Overall, killer video! Looking forward to more on the wolf-cult.

  • @alexanderaflalo4128
    @alexanderaflalo4128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome and very well done, brings me back to my old college lectures.

  • @steakslapn9724
    @steakslapn9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an awesome one. The way religion evolves over distance and time is so fascinating.

  • @korvusliedke8913
    @korvusliedke8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the Sky Father Merch!! Got myself one

  • @rubyboobieee
    @rubyboobieee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Tyr's rune could be seen as an arrow pointing upwards to the sky ᛏ

    • @grognackgarganil9164
      @grognackgarganil9164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or to go forward

    • @suppiluiiuma5769
      @suppiluiiuma5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Interesting perspective

    • @sigurdwrathman3991
      @sigurdwrathman3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The top of the arrow is the transcendent sky and the vertical the axis mundi. Creates an arrow pointing skyward, or to the transcendent, yes. Odal rune on the other hand more akin to gateway, from which one emerges (kin, community, heritage) or through which one enters into (initiation, shamanistic states). The etymology for Wotanaz and Tiwaz reinforce this distinction also. Wotanaz communicating rage, mania, ecstacy, divine inspiration... the shamanic. Tiwaz communicating sky father, natural law...the transcendent sovereign.

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or its just the letter "T"

    • @sh-hg4eg
      @sh-hg4eg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gunjfur8633 why was the letter "T" chosen to be that shape?

  • @jamescorbin5638
    @jamescorbin5638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much information that I’ll have to rewatch.

  • @savagefrieze4675
    @savagefrieze4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    When I was teaching comparative religions I only scratched the surface talking about the names and global migrations and such things. 40 years ago I had no idea all of this other information existed. So thank you for backing up my intuition. QUESTION: could there be a relationship between this research and the most ancient temples such as Göbekli Tepe?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thanks! no Göbekli Tepe was not made by Indo-Europeans

    • @jaydengoulding3948
      @jaydengoulding3948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was however made by their ancestors

    • @florianschweiger6666
      @florianschweiger6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydengoulding3948 Mostly not. At that time period afro-asiatic (afro-semitic) and indo-german (indo-european) cultures were already splitted.
      But, indo-europeans conquered most territories from afro-asiatic people. Thats why even old indo-european religion has some defuse connections to other cultures. Way later, 500-300 BC greeks adapted many agypt myths, that's why christianity was so popular in that regions later on. Jesus is an incarnation of agypt god Horus, Maria is Isis and the christian God is a mix of Jahwe and Osiris. In that way, Christianity isn't a real abrahamic religion, it's more a modern form of antic polytheism, while not beeing a polytheism.

    • @i_like_it.378
      @i_like_it.378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In sanskrit, we have "deus" meaning The god of the gods. And "dev" meaning normal god.

    • @savagefrieze4675
      @savagefrieze4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@i_like_it.378 indeed. That is where Jupiter and Zeus Pater come from!

  • @TheKlecker1
    @TheKlecker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    TH-cam is not giving me notifications of your new videos posted. I already have the bell ticked for all notifications just an FYI. Thank you for your Content. Great information.

  • @frankkmallorca3230
    @frankkmallorca3230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    So BULLFIGHTIN IN SPAIN, is a tradition of 6 millenialls and simbolices sacrifices to Father God, is done in an specific hour.. from around 19 hours when the Sunset ; and is done in all the villages as the most important day of each village, is an old, old reminiscence of the sacrifices to God Father.. Interesting aspect.

    • @CrazeeFy
      @CrazeeFy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So mexicans should sacrifice humans in a party too, since it's a part of an old tradition

    • @gestucvolonor5069
      @gestucvolonor5069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@CrazeeFy as long as they start with you 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @JesusMendoza-nz8pw
      @JesusMendoza-nz8pw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CrazeeFy and we sacrifice macacos too

    • @soiah
      @soiah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original word is PITAR, and it did not mean farther, it implied it, because it means the bringer of pita( bread)

    • @soiah
      @soiah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your intuition is right, but here is in short the truth( FROM THE RELIGION OF PELASGIANS your ancestors)
      Anu the God( who's reflection in our universe is sun) looked at mother Gea( earth) and thought of children, he struck then a boalder with Devine light(lightning) and created the first humans, and seeing them children rooming naively, struck the bolder again and created Mitra to be a teacher and guide for them.
      Later Mitra killed the solar bool and brought abundance to land and people... ultimately this is what Spanish culture preserves, a history 9000 years old.

  • @schlaackmusic
    @schlaackmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic. Perfect to listen to while I'm at work.

  • @plaguedoctor1544
    @plaguedoctor1544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't believe I put off watching your videos. I'm hooked! Buon lavoro mio fratello!

  • @gibjamie
    @gibjamie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Top Quality Content and Excellent Pronunciation

  • @munkofpunk
    @munkofpunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Was literally thinking about this on my way to work today, when I saw the sun rising over the hills.

  • @mustahsinrahman1523
    @mustahsinrahman1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video really sparked my interest in Proto-Indo-European religion and culture. What an amazing video, man.