Blond Mummies, Tocharians and Indo-Europeans of China
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- Archaeological discovery of mummies in the Taklamakan desert of Western China dating back 4,000 years has captivated the imaginations of researchers, who were surprised to discover that they were caucasians from Europe. The answers to the mystery of who these white mummies were might be found in the later history of Xinjiang province; in the Chinese written records of blue eyed and red bearded merchants such as the Yuezhi and the Sogdians from the West and in the manuscripts written in a mysterious Indo-European language known as Tocharian. Clearly there were both Iranic and Tocharian peoples living in Western China in later times, and the Tarim mummies must have been the ancestors of some if not all of them.
The inhospitable Tarim basin became a vital route for merchants, at the crossroads between East and West, the basin is skirted by oasis towns which were stations for anyone traveling on the Silk Road.The caucasian, Europoid mummies and the ancient Indo-European languages of the region challenge popular misconceptions about the limits of European civilisation in the Bronze Age. The material excavated suggests the area was active for thousands of years, with diverse languages, lifestyles, religions, and cultures present.
#Xinjiang #Tocharian
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Contents:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Tarim mummies
04:21 Tocharian
06:45 Han Chinese accounts of white merchants in Tarim
09:40 Yuezhi and Kushans
13:16 Kroraina / Loulan kingdom
14:35 Sogdians
16:05 Tocharian vs Iranic - Centum/Satem
17:35 Genetics of Tarim mummies and Iron Age Tarim skeletons
20:59 Yang paper - archaeological survey of Bronze Age Tarim
24:41 Conclusion
Update Aug 2021: New genetic data leaked from forthcoming paper on Tarim mummies disproves my claim from my video last year that early Tarim mummies were Iranic. It also shows the likely origin of Tocharian in Asia is in the Dzungarian Basin just north of Tarim. The older samples in the new study are from Dzungarian Basin and these samples do appear to be Afanasievo derived and therefore could be the source of Tocharian languages, and if so then the language only moved south into Tarim basin quite late, much later than I thought, but the early Tarim mummies do not appear to be Tocharians or even, as I speculated in my video las year, Iranic speaking Aryans, rather an isolated refugia of ice-age like people predominantly descended from Ancient North Eurasians and West Siberian Hunter-Gatherers. WSHG themselves were 72.5% ANE, 7.5% West European Hunter-Gatherer, and 20% Ancient East Asian.
We can't say what language these Siberian mammoth hunter-like people of Tarim spoke (not an Indo-European one though), although we know Tocharian and Iranic both entered the Tarim basin region later on. Interesting that the mummies appear to be European in phenotype despite not descending from Indo-European bronze age steppe peoples who are autosomally like modern Europeans.
Later Tarim mummies like Cherchen man actually probably do have some steppe admixture and could well be Iranic speakers. Tocharian and Iranic speakers of steppe descent entered the Tarim basin from different routes at different times, but the original inhabitants were these ANE descended Siberian people and they mixed with the incoming Indo-Europeans.
Edit Oct 2021: Here is the full paper www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04052-7
Here is my live stream on the subject:
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I am Anmol basnet from Nepal and we are member of that clan but known as khas(chhetry) community in Nepal
Can you make a new video about this? I would like for someone to point out the actual mummies that have significant ANE geneflow. I have heard that the Cherchen man was one of the mummies that had a large portion of ANE ancestry but maybe that is wrong.
Hey bro then why you are not talking about brown skin of your yamnaya ancestors haha, because you are too biased about
@@BTSarmy-tz2lu I don't have Yamnaya ancestors. Corded Ware did not have brown skin. Yamnaya were not even brown like Indian people, more like Italians
Thanks for making Videos on eastern Indo Europeans, especially Sogdians. There was sadly alot of recession after the Mongol invasion.
Tajiks are very much still resembling Sogdians.
You’d be forgiven for thinking you were watching a BBC4 documentary as far as the production value goes, this is a high quality documentary.
Henry Walker with the plus of no propaganda and some cheering for us!!!😁
Exactly, he argues his points persuasively with facts, instead of rants and propaganda. This is valuable information and an interesting perspective, not preaching to the choir so to speak
Pity about the noisy music though. Why do these people think they need to put silly sounds on their videos?
did you... did you just try to insult the guy? because BBC documentaries are terrible.😂 this was way more informative then anything the British-Brainwashing-Corporation has ever put out.
If it was on the BBC, all the original inhabitants of Europe would be black.
creepy how she still looks somewhat pretty even tho shes been a mummy for 3000 years
dayum
@Twenty Faces & who cares what you think ? you say that as you dont show ur face lmao
@Twenty Faces You're just a child hiding behind a screen, and she doesnt look like a man, her appearance looks very feminine
@Twenty Faces you sound like someone insecure in their own looks 😂
you look good, don't listen to idiots, girl.
I made an error - the blue eyed Yuezhi bust is not actually depicting a Yuezhi. It was made by Yuezhi people and it depicts a Saka Scythian man whom they defeated.
Survive the Jive
It should be pronounced Rouzhi (月氏）
@@firefly4784 According to who? It isn't a Chinese word - it is East Iranic. Closest living language to it is Ossetian
Survive the Jive
Yuezhi is obviously a Chinese word! 月 is usually pronounced as Yue but in ancient China, it has two pronunciations and professionals argue it should be pronounced as Rou, the other pronunciation. But a lot of people just keep pronouncing it as Yue.
@@Survivethejive
Jatts and Gujjars are descendents of Indo-Iranic people..
Kushans are ancestors of Gujjars....
Kambojas are ancestors of Jatt...
@@firefly4784 bullshit it means archer, and it sounds jász(yes, yessus, jesus, us=ancestor, so jesus was jász, jüecsi, or yuezhi, but chinese say jüecsi
íjász=archer in magyar, i live in jász country
Imagine being so beautiful that even in a state of mummification you still look attractive!
i'd hit it
@@bamafader4543 necrophilia much
Holy necro humping Wednesday Batman!
@@bamafader4543 bruh... she's dead, but I want to somehow make her alive again and ask her how did she die, but again she would hate the modern world.
Litterally me. I don't have to imagine that.
Seeing a Berserk reference and a gnome meme seamlessly mixed into such a professional documentary is surreal. Great stuff my dude.
Not to forget the "sticky white substance" joke.
Must be that British wit!
I am very happy that he did that
"Wu lad"
Tatarian / tartar / tartaria people
It's so refreshing to hear a gentle but authoritative narration of history, something that has been lost in recent decades. You don't shout, you don't speak fast, you don't act condescending, you act like a professor. Thank you for your videos.
Yes, but the voice he puts on is a bit annoying though.
Daniel Appleton epic history has one of the best narrators
it's very easily understood, I'm Portuguese, non english native speaker but I can understand what he says extremely well
@@beardedbjorn5520
It's still better than what you get from ethno-spergs.
I can’t believe the incredible state these mummies have been found in, they are actually quite beautiful. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah cold and dry climate can do that, sadly most places with these kinds of climate can't habitable for any civilization, glacial rivers flowing from the himalayas northwards to the tarim basin can create oasis from time to time hence u had ancient kingdoms in these regions.
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Now you know were your good looks come from the White Ancestors , you killed off.
@@dejanpantelic3282 no, it's the other way around, all that you said proves y'all are from India
@@Gigatechi7 your an idiot
So where do you want to go?
Proto-Indo-Europeans: *YES.*
@BenkethePirateand have you read one?
@Nemesis I mean I see your point but if we can't trust science completely then what should we trust?
@BenkethePirate yea ofc likely to be stories carried from pie culture,along with some real stories and fiction storiess based on real events
@Nemesis Science is good. But people pass opinions and theories as science.
@Rumble Lane Trust in God, in Christ. You can't fully rely on anything else. It's all finite and changing.
@khushal Singh based on analyses on european languages ( excluding
hungarian, estonian, and finnish ) as well as north indian and iranian languages there are unmistakable similarities
I’m not white but I wish Europeans would love themselves and their heritage a bit more. So much to be proud of
Ty, I wish that 2. Its a shame European cultures are pushed away in EU. I am worried for the future
People all over the world love Europe and European culture and they are non- European.. Don't buy into that SJW white guilty trap.
Some do and some do not. Some do too much.
We have been brainwashed into self hatred ,not me personally ,I love me and my whiteness , overall from media and state schools. Get whites out of the way and control is much easier after that .
Africa is the cradle of civilization though!!
In 4000 years, archaeologists will be debating whether the USA was settled by the English or the Germans. Also they will say we had a fertility based religion, based on all the rubber fertility statues they find.
Future Archeologists reference..."must have been part of a sex cult...hundreds of burials with gigantic silicone breasts..."
Germans
An archeologist would definitely say that's not how their science works.. but I don't know exactly what they would say..
@@bumblebeeeoptimus you know how to ruin a good joke hot shot.
Brits are Germans with a sprinkle of celtic and Roman mixed in. The difference is mainly cultural not genetic due to the frequency of germanic invasion and migration to the British isles.
I visited china in the late 90's. Xinjiang, Qinghai and Gansu provinces(Could not enter Tibet). On the border of the three provinces; My host told me the story of the ghost people who lived in china before all. It was said they were very tall, pale skinned, with light hair and blue/green eyes. They resided by the ghost lake in a great city. They were wiped about long ago and the locals believe that their spirits now haunt the ghost lake.
@a they were not indo-europeans.
''Tarim people descended entirely from Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), a once-widespread Pleistocene population that had mostly disappeared about 10,000 years ago, after the end of the last ice age.''
Most northern easteren asians are pale skinned so they dont see other Whites as gost it just bullshit
White worshipping, thank god at least my people had any substantial contact with the scythians (tocharian counterpart) I wonder what would happen if I brag about it to some chinease dude, envy probably
@cet celpan
The indoeuropean were in the big part Ancient North Eurasians too
So they can be indoeuropean
@@alextillgruber2997 These Iranian Scythians invented Buddhism and Hinduism, but they were racists
Geologically speaking, the Tarim Basin underwent a massive desertification throughout the millennia. Most recent example is the Lop lake which has now pretty much dried up and a fraction of the size it used to be as little as 100 years ago. The potentially lush lakes and rivers might have been the original point of attraction for the Tocharians hence the burials in the boats.
Whites took too many trees out. Desertification. Now everyone's doing it. No point pointing the finger. We all need to do better into the future. Green the deserts.
@@maxinewarnest894 it was less deforestation and more changing temperatures that lead to desertification. It’s a lot like the Sahara that way. Remember, for the past 10,000 years the world has been coming out of an ice age, and has been heating up.
This famous city of 樓蘭 (Loulan) started to decline from fourth century because of the lake drying up. There has been a number of climate irregularities, changing the natural course of the river, since antiquity. Of the three main routes from China proper to Central Asia, access to water was the single most important consideration.
It's believed that during the ice age, the Tarim Basin was a gigantic inland sea like the Caspian or the Aral Sea. I don't kow where the homeland was for the people who migrated to the Tarim Basin thousand of years ago. Using boats for burials could be coming from an ancestral custom before they reached the Tarim Basin.
non non non..nevertheless what matters and is their dna.and they could never possible be from the dark people of africa.arabic,or....asian descent..the fair skin asians..have this ton cos they are mixed with the whites that inhabited earth once all over
When I was younger country music was about horses and almost trucks
These days thanks to Alan Jackson and Kenny Chesney it's all about boats and beaches
Just sayin erroneous boats pop up..
It's one of the hallmarks of the end
Your channel is very important!
And very Indo-European as well
Important to whom?
@@mk-apache6161 to all interested in history? Whats your question about mr.?
@@hamingjiaprojekt7345 sorry i just disagree with your comment, dont mean to insult your character or offend you in any way
@@mk-apache6161 no problem m8 :)
1:59 The trousers resemble viking trousers; the trim has a pattern we still use!
I really don't want to be biased but this looks like "Slavic patterns" more than "Viking" ones.
@@jackvancekirkland Well its one of the points. I never said that its the most important part of the video. It was just interesting to me since as soon as I looked at those patterns first thing that came to my mind was "Wow this looks so Slavic" after I watched the video I got to the comments just for fun to see how people reacted to it. So it happened that I stumbled upon this comment which only got me curios since I became unsure if its Slavic or Viking(even though I'm aware that Vikings and Slavs are kinda mixed). So out of my curiosity I opened two tabs and in one I typed "Slavic patterns" and "Viking patterns" in another and I myself was surprised that this pattern had pretty much nothing to do with the results I got for Viking search and Slavic ones gave results immediately so I just commented on that. This detail just caught my attention and besides I heard about this story before.
@@jackvancekirkland As I said, I'm not being biased.
VIKING PATTERNS:
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image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/vintage-viking-borders-set-vector-260nw-1157518804.jpg
cdn3.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/87/32/fantasy-vikings-pattern-vector-1598732.jpg
SLAVIC PATTERNS:
www.google.com/search?q=slavic+patterns&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ACYBGNT4jlyInVnLoiPhrxRZPBIpChmIrA:1579689709706&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdjILggpfnAhU2A2MBHSnlAaQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=524#imgrc=gJqjac-DIGLNEM
www.google.com/search?q=slavic+patterns&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ACYBGNT4jlyInVnLoiPhrxRZPBIpChmIrA:1579689709706&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdjILggpfnAhU2A2MBHSnlAaQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=524#imgrc=zCDgBJAgJxyaGM
i.pinimg.com/236x/4a/ce/ac/4aceac6ca7e3045302da76923574d04e--russian-folk-fairy-tales.jpg
VIKINGS went as far as Russia ,that we know if , before these mummies were found a tribe called the Russ tribe giving the name to Russia, maybe there were other lost tribes of Norsemen that strade into the gobe desert, but who kniw the Chinese have hidden all this for decades and all information on this like all other governments hiding the truth
@@danielrodriguez248 Because "wh1tes" have been the only ones who have always opposed the wealthy people at the top. Now, China and Russia will be used to put an end to Amer1ka.
They got all the trillions of dollars they could out of wh1te Amer1kans sweat and labor, and now the øligãrçh rats want to jump ship.
I love how European and oriental people share a ancient past together. Both peoples influenced each other and have influenced the world in more ways than most humans can even imagine. Also I love this narrator. Very smooth voice.
Both have high IQ
israelites
@@Made_In_Heavenn nope
@@boreaborea5214 real israelites = white
@@Made_In_Heavenn What exactly do you mean??
Ancient European culture is so pretty, art depictions look so graceful.
Great video essay. The massacre bit was disturbing. Romans, Greeks and Chinese have always looked down upon surrounding cultures, but when it comes to systematic state sponsored cruelty, they have always outdone the so-called "barbarians".
Just look at what the Romans did to the Celtic tribes of France.
@enver pasha Pyramids? You mean kurgans? Also funny how you say old “turks” had light colored hair yet turks of anatolia look middle eastern
@@xanshen9011 Damn the Romans, we have black hair and skin like the Arabs. Are we from the Middle East? We are the sons of the blessed Esau
@@xanshen9011 because the turks are intermixed with arabs
@@xanshen9011 The celts don't deserve any empathy.
It's a tragedy you don't get more views, especially with people out there who make lazy blogs and make thousands
@@UnleashedOdinV2 people in general
Welcome to The Age of Decadence
@Repeat After Me: Who made the THOTs? The thirsty men.
Mindless entertainment will always appeal to a larger slice of humanity than thought provoking intellectualism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In today's society you have way more low IQ individuals than peoples with high or at least upper middle IQ and majority with low IQ naturally watch themes which they can understand and this ain't one of them
0:50 Loulan Beauty has some incredible eyelashes
Compare her to the mongoloid burial 20 seconds later. Literally elves and orcs.
@@truth135 No Elves are Hot , I agree with the Orcs part tho XD
@@truth135 one still has eyelid and Much More preserved differently...the reconstruction of xin appearance is completely normal.
childish comment
I'm Colombian but for me Central Asia is magical. Since a child this region always captivated my attention 🎉 Iran, Afghanistan,Armenia,georgia, Uzbekistan. Punjab region some Pakistan etc to me feels magical and nostalgic somehow. Beautiful to use the internet for this knowledge. Love y'all
Same here...I feel like this region is home to many long forgotten civilizations. It's a very strange and interesting place.
I am as well! The history is amazing. I can't get enough lol.
@@jerrycurrier4645 let's make a plan and a trip my dude
Oh shit I never thought I would see a Colombian around here, what department are you from?
@@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 born in MEDELLIN, lived a lil in San andres and been in the US since 99
I first remember learning of the Tocharians (or 'Mummie people') around 20 odd years ago in 1999 or 1998 when a programme aired on Channel 4. It was narrated by Sean Barrett. It showed a team of archeologists lead by American sinologist Victor Maire of Penn State University on expedition in Xinjiang Province investigating and gathering more info on these caucasian mummies. Totally aw struck by it. Also remember reading of a 'decoded' indo-European language discovered in western China in the 1930s in David Crystal's book 'Language' which actually got me interested in languages as a whole. Great video Jive. Keep up the good work.
Chinese history is a process of integrating all kinds of people including Caucasian people. In Tang Dynasty, lots of foreign generals and officials including Turkic, Iranian, Uyghur, Sogdian, etc. Uyghur has privileges in Tang Capital Chang’an. A lot of Sogdians were merchants and nine clans of them changed to Chinese last names. So if you see those last names, their ancestors could be Sogdian. Tang territories extended to Central Asia and our greatest poet in Tang Dynasty was born by the Baikul River. His first name is Bai, means white. Then he gave himself a middle name, Taibai, means too white. I suspect he is Russian or mixed with Russian and he drank a lot.
In Yuan Dynasty, lots of Arabic and Jewish in the nowadays east coastal region being officials and merchants. and Quanzhou was the world’s largest port and is full of Christian churches, Jewish churches, and Muslim mosques. Actually, our greatest navigator Zheng He was an Arab. His dad and grandfather were officials in Today’s Yunnan province in Southerst China. His original last name was Ma, the Chinese version of Muhammad. Lots of Hui Muslim in China last name is Ma. They are still the biggest Muslim ethnicity in China. Later, lots of Manchurians changed last names to Chinese last names.
Actually, all my uncles and my dad have curly hair and tall noses. Some of my uncles are Caucasian looking. My dad is the darkest in skin color. My ancestors must have been mixed with other ethnicities. But I don’t look like Caucasian.
There is hardly any pure Han Chinese. Hakka people might be the purest Han Chinese, as they moved away from Yellow River regions and kept going South to avoid multiple invasions by Northern nomads. They probably get to breed among themselves mostly.
This shouldn't be surprising to anyone since Europe is just a country away from China.
Finland is separated from Mongolia by only one country
Exactly
Europe and China are just a steppe away
Kim Jong Nuke this is just fancy history for white people.
They are called CAUCASIAN and are excited they found 400 mummy’s in Asia lol
It’s obvious they were either intermixing
they are turanian tribes
This blew my mind. Their bodies were so well preserved. I get chills thinking about it.
dry climate will do that
Are they multiplying??? Are they electrifying??
I don't know why some people are so surprised it's called EURASIA!? it's like a surprise to find Asiatic people in Europe when they been around for thousands of years. People migrate all over the world. and this is situated around the ancient Silkroad, like what do people think ancient people live in some pure ethnic enclave? the Germanic tribes literally went from northeastern Europe all the way migrated to today's Libya! THERE IS LITERALLY A PERSIAN PRINCE IN CHINA THAT BECAME A FAMOUS GENERAL! people migrate since the day human exist!
Finally a smart comment
THANK YOU! I'm mostly Scandinavian genetically (almost 75%). But when shopping at an international market, I'm often asked if I'm half Korean. I have to then explain that my eyelids making a narrow opening is an adaptation to harsh glare from snow and is typical of North-Eastern Europeans, and that my round head comes from my great great grandfather who is definitely European (of mixed German, Irish, and English ancestry). Also, I'm there for bulk grains, pickled fish, and brunost. LOL The good wheat and barley come from Korea and it doesn't help my case that I can read those bags. haha (the good rye is from Russia tho, and I can't read that for shit.)
@@indoorsandout3022 Damn. Me proud of being one of us man!
People tend to forget that nowadays.
@@bennogb5069 I got nothing against Koreans, I have several Korean friends and a really huge jar of kimchi that I made.
@@indoorsandout3022 Im talking about the european part.
Speaking of genocide, you must not forgot Mongols. They pretty much destroyed all major cities in Central Asia. so, no matter many Tocharians remained in Medieval period, they were almost all killed after Mongols. And also other IE people such as Greeks (lots of them in Alexendria, or Merv, capital of that east persian province) were genocided. In fact, Khorasan had lots of Greeks even BEFORE Macedonian conquest, because many Greeks were previously deported there by Persians in order to settle this frontier region. Roman captives were also sent to Merv by the Persians.
@NotJo Genghis Khan even if he really had red hair and green eyes, didn't mean he was white. Google it, there are Mongolians even today who have red hair and light eyes, yet facial featues are totally Asian. It's possible Genghis Khan got the hair and eyes from Schytians but his face and his character (lack of empathy) must be typically North Asian
@NotJo speculation what? you're the one speculating. Rashid Al Din never said he was "white", only that he had red hair and green eyes, which i explained, didn't mean Genghis was white.
@@Cumulo9 Mongols are mixed they mixed along time ago with the scythians
Every time I see White people whining about things like "Genesis Khan was white!!" I always chuckle, it clearly shows their inferiority complex!
Green eyes and red hair are not specific to Indo-Europeans. All over the world there are people with green eyes and red hair with 0% European/Caucasoid ancestry. Personality is not something related to the ancestry as well.
I started studying everything I could find about these Tarim Basin mummies in the 90s, and still follow what I can find about them. It was not all desert then, but woodland around the edges where the rivers were and the area of the cemetery with small boats was in a wooded area. I have notes somewhere (I will find them) about the place-names and how those resembled words from Old Danish. There was a word for a river there that was the same name for a river in Denmark or Sweden (can't remember) and a word for hat, that was also used to mean roof that was similar. They came there with carts and horses. Over the years a lot of the original old research was "lost" by the Chinese government. and some of the textiles and mummies are also gone now. There was one buried with stacks of felt hats in various colors. There was a baby with a vivid blue felt hat. There were plaid garments. It's difficult to even find pictures of those now.
I do not think that they are Europeans, but I almost think that they are the ancestors of the Tajik people, the Iranians and the Afghan Pashtuns
I could be seeing patterns where there aren't any but; there's a Finnish word with a T, an R, and either a K or H in that order.. I wish I was further along in my Finnish studies to remember it.
But it means to endure cold weather, or to be capable to be comfortable in the cold.
Turks, Tocharians, this Uralic word...
The Eurasian steppe....
... anyway
All of those peoples are Indo-Europeans are they not?@@user-mm9bv3bl1u
did you ever find those notes?
In Hungary, we were taught that our ancestors ( the Huns ) came from China, and some of them went to India and Persia :))
Yeah the magyars
truth be told 90% of your ancestors were europeans which is very evident since you look like other central europeans.
Hmm... The Tocharians did invade India. My ancestors were said to live in Central Asia and could be Saka, Tocharians or Kushans.
@@FirstLast-hz8ut the tocharians never invaded india ur thinking of the turks
@@nsdtgabe4082 Nope. The Kushans were Iranian Tocharians.
All the hard work you put into this one clearly shows! This is exactly the type of content that drew me in years ago
14:39 Damnit lads...
He got us again
Bloomin' gnomed ya again ya gnobheads
@@Survivethejive *Is evaporated from existance by the pure humiliation*
Imagine putting on a 3000 year old pair of trousers!
I imagine those trousers would almost immediately disintegrate into tiny tatters in seconds lol 😂!
They are selling the same design on the internet
This was very informative! Thank you for making this. I’m not Caucasian in any sense but I wish that important history like this was shared more often. The more we know about each other the better we’ll understand everyone.
These are your Scythian brothers, and they are from Iran, and the Caucasians are just Scythian slaves
caucasians refer to the Yamnaya stemming peoples. that includes the modern europeans and iranians. dont know what you are on about@@user-xu9ji4dd4e
They won't talk about this in school or the msm
They used to. Natinal Geographic had a 2 hour documentery about the "White Mummies of the Tarin Basin". Sadly in the late 1800's Swedish archeologist documented they were finding thousands of mummies, but thought they were more recent and didnt bother.
@@vinrusso821 Swedes cucked again!
Do you have source for the documentary?
They also don't teach much about science neither, particularly in the south. To be honest, it's impossible for children to learn everything about human history during their finite years in school, so I don't expect them to learn this.
Join the club we didnt hear nothing about us or this either honey so
I want to see white college kids tearing off trousers screaming "That's my culture!"
Look they are a long lost extinct race that's not necessarily white or asian
@@valentincavazzos4420 Oh really... where do you get this idea? All the "Caucasian" people in this video, including the ones you are referring to here, are ultimately descended from a group of people academics call the Yamnaya. Before political correctness took hold they were called Proto-Indo-Europeans (PIE) and originated on the Pontic Steppe in prehistoric times. They were white Caucasians. Virtually all modern Europeans today are also descended from these people, along with Ancient Anatolians and Western Hunter Gatherers (WHG). Modern Euros are mix of all three of these with the PIE being dominate.
jay5775 before PC culture took over they were called the Arayns and one of their symbols was the swastika.
Indo-European is the PC term
@@umageddon Yes you are basically correct, however the term "PC" is ever changing as you probably know. IE used to be the PC term but now even that is not PC enough. I'm guessing they didn't like that Indo-European actually had the word "European" in it if you know what I mean. If you check all the current DNA studies (and other articles on this subject) you find that they prefer the term Yamnaya. PIE or even Aryan is fine for me but I guess the new term is more palatable for the pathetic PC types.
@Ario How so? I just googled it and every article points to it originating in China and being popularized with Taoism
This was the most informative compilation on the subject that I have found on TH-cam and I wish to thank you for the time and effort to create it. I look forward to seeing more of your videos! 😊
So good to see a real history program for once. The other day I saw a BBC production that had a crude sketch of a 4000 year old hairy ape-man weilding a bow. I wonder WHO allowed that to happen?
The English? They often like to deny that they are Germanic Celts mixed with a dash of Roman blood.
We waz Changs.
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What would be the title of an emperor or a king in those places? Necessary information for meme purposes!
(Shah? Khan? Huangdi?)
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@Loki III I meant in that language specifically. For instance "king" isn't "king" in every language.
We must preserve our European history and culture !
Get an AK-47, a dozen full ammo boxes and start preserving "our European history and culture".
Niem Fpmak - Nied Fpmak I agree but we must also have plenty of children
@Eric W. Not necessarily true. You just might not be looking in the right places. And, you probably hear of and see the promiscuous, degenerate ones more often the good ones. Similar to seeing only bad things on the news.
@Eric W. I haven't left the US, so I don't know what other places are really like. I do agree with you overall. Divorce rates are shamefully high, casual sex is a cancer on society, porn is a terminal cancer on society, etc. Yet, I think society may be in the midst of a new turn-around. I think society is slowly changing, rejecting modernity and degeneracy, and perhaps, becoming more traditional and conservative. I think the switch is already taking place in Gen Z. The direction society has taken is unsustainable and doomed to fail. I have hope for the future. White men and women will wake up, we already are. We must do what we can to change our nations for the better.
I'm going to have a (white) daughter in August. Her father and I will be doing what we can to raise her white-positive, pro-west, racially conscious, and morally upright. (Hoping for the best on that one.) Sometimes, it seems like all I can do, but it's better than nothing. If more whites would do this, we'd be on the right track. Maybe there's something we can do in our local governments, if possible. The west didn't fall into degeneracy over night, and it won't come out of it over night either.
@Eric W. Racial consciousness would unite us and give us a greater reason to preserve our culture and history. If white people don't think and act as part of a racial group, we'll be doomed. Everybody else on the planet thinks in these terms, that's why they aren't divided and subverted to the extent white people have been. I don't think it's a coincidence that our moral compass has been thrown off at the same time our racial identity and homelands have been lost. Racial consciousness, identity, culture, nation, and morality are all connected.
Wouldn't European paganism be closer related to us than Buddhism? I mean, Buddhism and the Buddha came about wayyyyy after Indo-Europeans became distinct groups, no? The Buddha wasn't white or living in Europe. And isn't our view of marriage and sex more in line with Christianity than Buddhism?
This video was really interesting! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼❤️
I can never had enough of it!. It's look like I will be siting next to your channel for days now thank you big time.
Good info. I'm not of European ancestry but I enjoy your channel.
It's all good , I'm white and watch videos of other people like just before this one I watched a Massaman video about the Koi san of Africa.
This, I'm Hispanic, but these are some of the best history videos on TH-cam.
@@CanMan-pd9vh the original people of southern Africa
TT central and South Americans tend to have a lot of native dna; Still partly descended from Europeans though.
If you don't have nothing in common with Europeans you must live in Africa and none of your ancestors ever lived outside of Africa otherwise I wouldn't be so sure
you put the BBC to shame! epic presentation. i'm going to have to watch this a few more times to be able to fully take all that stuff in... that's rare for a youtube documentary of this length.
BBC is a marxist organisation now. (well has been for a while)
Thank you for all of your research, I didn't know of the Tocharians until today. I've been trying to catch up to your timeline since I happened upon you a couple of weeks ago. Great work, especially the bit where you get the commenters to brawl without even trying!
Awesome and professionally delivered documentaryl!
Was totally ignorant of this region until now, fascinating as usual
@_ Leethal_ thanks,you're the second one to tell me that. Maybe I'll be Vishnu
@_ Leethal_ I changed it
@_ Leethal_ This Indian guy told me I should be ashamed of myself
Glad to see your channel growing.
One thing to add, there are a few loan words in Chinese that are from Tocharian.
China does not recognize that these mummies are completely rumours. They have been exhibited in some big cities in China and appeared in Western documentaries in the last century. The Tocharians are closely related to the ancient Chinese rule in the Western Regions, the two sides have a lot of political, economic and cultural exchanges.
Yes, and there are more Chinese loan words in tocharian.
@@hwasiaqhan8923 我靠，这还能看到自己人，印欧人研究还挺有意思，可惜咱们国内没有一个这样科普汉藏人研究的，还挺有兴趣的，但是这行感觉门槛不低。
@@shuhewa 因为中华民族不喜欢提太多关于汉族的事
@@hwasiaqhan8923 不会的，汉藏人包含了大量的民族
@@shuhewa 每个民族都包含着大量的民族，党怕提汉族会唤醒汉族民族主义意识，所以建国以来拼命打压，现在基本上没几个汉人认同自己是汉族
Love your videos mate..thanks!
Production quality getting very good. Excellent vid.
Holy shit STJ. Amazing job, once again. I'm reading the Horse,Wheel, and Language, and had put a mental sticky note upon the Tocharians for further research.
I think it's either Penn or Oriental Institute but there is a great lecture on YT about tocharian textiles too!
Always a pleasure watching your videos!
Tom's voice re-enchants the world with the spirit of ethnos.
This was absolutely fascinating. The more I learn of our people's early struggles, the more I am heartbroken to observe their state today. Toiling under the yoke of a foreign people, and not even aware of the truth.
Truth. Its a silance war against white people. To feel guilty. Guilty becose what a few did many years ago? Wtf its this? I dont feel guilty at all.
our people?
@@H0MY911Caucasians. Europeans.
John Camdir You clearly get it. Not all the caucasian race came from Europe. Actually native Europeans weren’t even white, only Scandinavians. Indo-Europeans, Semitics and Indo-Iranians who are the majority of the caucasian race didn’t originate from Europe.
@@ColombianoSuperior are semitics and indo-iranian really caucasian though? not too sure about that. the definition of caucasian is "white-skinned; of European origin". both semitics and indo-iranian are darker skinned and also not from europe.
When I was visiting Japan this African American guy shouted at me and my girlfriend "Heyyyy white people yall get everywhere" guess he was right
He didnt do to bad himself lol
Well, we've also been to the moon. Russians, Germans, and Americans, all people of White European stock are the progenitors of human space flight.
@@des4719 I did shout back says the American
@@anonrandom7765 WITH PLUNDERED ASIAN, AMERICAN (the real America not Babylone😉), AFRICAN MONEY, BLOOD AND RECOURCES you still got as heritage of your ancestors, Isn't that so ? 😘
@@graiant Pure Nonsense bro.. The truth isn't in your white history books.. Never asked yourself what history would look like if every race on earth would have been allowed to write their version of history and be considerated as equal with white history ? 😒
Black people went to India.. They went to Australia... They even went to Europe before everyone else.. In that time no one lived in Europe because it was too cold there and unstable.. And lol the name Europe comes from An African Queen who saved the rest of what was left of whites after the Black vs white africans war killed 95% of whites.. That queen that ordered to stop the massacre and made the rest of the white prisoners.. She was known to be humble, so she saved the rest of these whites by casting them out of Africa to the Mountains of Caucasia as punishment and last chance for them to make it better.. Where whites spreaded themselves and stopped indentifying themselves as Africans and called themselves white Caucasians, they later spreaded themselves in West-, East- Europe and Eurasia.. And gave the name "Europa" to their continent in tribute of that black African Queen who saved them from a Total extinction..
That Greek mythology version of Queen Europa is pure bullshit invented by whites to erase the true story.. Out of shame that Black people in fact are their true closest brothers and that the queen was black.. Africa has another name for Africans or other races.. But because whites dominated the world, they wrote the history based on their image and their words.. They gave their names to continents.. etc.etc.. without asking the opinion of anybody..
Great work tying all of this information together. Great presentation.
They are my ancestors !!! I am Tajik . An ethnic eastern Iranic group that has been living in the region for over 3,000 years . The ancestors of the Tajiks are the sogdians, bactrians and khawarezmians . There is historical records from the Greeks , Indians , Persians and even the Chinese themselves of Caucasian sogdians living in that region . I think we are the only indigenous cauacasian people living in China
It's not like all tajiks are just an indigenous group in China. There's literally a tajik country called Tajikistan.
@@Incubus1161 they are indigenous ok China, their kingdom was Khotan (in tarim basin)
Stop lying, Tocharian belongs to the western branch of Indo-European languages
@@wolsky25 he said he descend from the sogdians not from the tocharians
This is your best video. 10/10
Thank you for providing such good information. Please continue making these videos. Facts are more important than ideology.
I read about this in Archeology Magazine back in about 1996? The mummies were tall, caucasoid and blond or red haired. As I recall most were found in the Takla Makan desert in western China not to far from TIen Shan, mountains in the Himalayas. I got the impression they found tartan plaid-like wool clothes buried with the mummies.
The uyghurs are mixed Blood indoeuropeans and mongoloids
Excelent work !!! Well explained. I enjoy it a lot !!!
Happy _Wassailing_
Excellent upload
one of your best videos yet; thoroughly interesting - shedding light on a topic not many people know about
Didn't think I'd come across another comment by you so soon.
I'm so happy I found this channel. Makes absolute sense.
Everything I’ve seen of yours is thoroughly researched and informative. The Production is Top Shelf and entertaining. Great channel for History
Thanks so much
Easily the best video I’ve seen on this topic
Nice to see these documentaries again. Truly enjoyed it
Dude. Professional reporting. You are a great youtuber and i have noticed your development as a researcher/video maker. I would bother doing what you do.. but you do such a good job why would i bother! Much love ❤❤
So well done and extremely interesting!
Wu Lad, fantastic stuff as ever STJ!
Absolutely intriguing and fascinating stuff old boy!
A very special channel!
The amount of research and information in this video is outstanding!
7:50 6 fingers and 6 toes is really interesting because Goliath from the Old Testament is said to also have the same features.
Not just that but this type of legend is found universally around the world
Define Divine hmmm very interesting I’ll have to do some more research on this!
I have a niece who was born with 12 fingers and 12 toes. (6 on each hand and foot) This is the first time I’ve heard historical reference to it, and I’m intrigued.
Several "giant" skeletons found in burial mounds mostly in the Ohio River valley in the USA (6-9 foot on average) were red haired, had 6 fingers and toes & some with double rows of teeth. Most were discovered in the late 1880's & apparently the Smithsonian has the skeletons
Thought I was the only one thinking Philistines or Phoenicians
Superb! I love that you're on top of the latest research. It makes for some of the most interesting videos I've ever seen. Thank you.
I knew this history before, now you have brought this Interesting research on TH-cam, thank you! i am originally from that Tarim basin, everyone told me that i was a Slavic or English when i was in mainland China.
Thank you. Extremely educational. Time well spent. I feel like I have a much better understanding.
what a great video!
thank you for all the work you put into these :)
great video. best I've seen on the topic.
really enjoy your content
Finally, a thinking person’s video. Thankyou very much. I think next time I’ll prepare myself for a normal and not a short lived attention span video.
This really is excellent, exemplary.
Utterly fascinating.
Thank you very much.
Test their DNA and settle the issue once and for all.
They only tested the Y DNA and got the haplotype and its clade. We need their full autosomal.
Apparently they're close to Russians and Ukrainians although i'm not 100% sure. If I can find the source again I'll link it below.
Probably Y-DNA R and Q just like the Cimmerians.
@Rullan You don't have to test dna…. we're fully aware of the tocharians and have been since the 1800s because their archaeological culture was known and used to formulate the Indo-European Language migration theory which is so far the best supported theory in linguistics. They had an empire in that part of asia for a brief few centuries while they kept the Xiongnyu on their eastern borders contained. Then after a while, the Xiongnyu were being pressured from their east...so they pushed westward and mixed with and/or replaced the tocharians. The leftover mixed group became the Huns which roamed around for a while until their later and well known push into Europe in classical periods.
They did and found white Caucasian and Asian share dna when they found the whites buried in Mass graves in South Africa but you won't hear about it.they are destroying it all
🌟 Awesome narrator... my anxiety just left me, great video. Thank You very much. 🦋
Great video, there are still Caucasians in China, some with blond hair and blue eyes, few people are skeptical when i talk about it, with migrations over thousands of years everything is possible. About 30 years ago i read a book: "Dans la peau d'un Chinois", wrote by a French man who entered China in the early 80's, he was a languages graduate and spoke Chinese. His fake papers identified him as one one of the white minorities, he visited many parts of China, worked and married a Chinese woman. If i remember well, he spent about 10 years in China before returning to France with his wife. Asians migrated to America during prehistoric times, Polynesians migrated to islands in the pacific, Madagascar was first inhabited by people from South East Asia, they are known as Merinas, their language is similar to Indonesian. It's really fascinating how far ancient people traveled without modern transportation, they kept moving to survive and settle where it's suitable to live.
From now on I'll wear my trousers with VIE pride.
what does V means
@@matheuspinheiro4796 very indo-european
'Deep set eyes, lots of facial hair and are good with money'..... uh oh
kek
rubbing hands intensifies
@Timemaster f 'girl'
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Stop cringing on my white mummy video
I was thinking that too. Lolz. But, there were no Hasidic curls and our boys were wearing tartan plaid. I know who they were. The narrator said that just to stir up controversy.
Great in-depth look
Probably looking at my Great x10 Grandparents. Loving the content man, I highly doubt I'd be able to see something like this on any other Channel.
So sad to see how indo-Iranians were extincted in central Asia!
western branch (Europeans) survived due to not having natural enemies in Europe like Asiatic or Semitic people!
While the the original indo iranians don't exist anymore but they live on (culturally and somewhat genetically) amongst north indians, dardic peoples and of course the pamiri tajiks.
and them as well :)
Modern iranians are just assimilated semites. Most of your haplogroup is J and not r1a
My girlfriend is Persian. And they look like Europeans and are white. Many persians don't believe they're persians because they are so called to white.
Charles Alexander Plat There is an ambiguous definition of “white”. Technically, Persians are caucasians as well. 🤔
Fascinating subject and study loved the video .
Great Video!
This is one of your best videos.
Absolutely marvellous video... clearly a tartan patern there, fellow Barbaroi.
I was always amazed by Tarim mummies and this region of the world, i think it is crucial to understand our migrations and our ancient heritage, i think Chinese culture is a lot influenced by this how they will call western barbarians. It is fascinating how this mummies are well preserved thanks to sand and climate. I cannot totally agree that this peoples were mostly massacred by Chinese, many other peoples passed through this region before and after the Chinese, for a long time parts of Tarim basin were administred by Chinese and still this people lived in this region. I think the final blow was by Mongol invasions and ofcourse before that the raise of Islam, Uyghur entrance into tarim basin, this peoples really had horrible destiny, but we will not foget them.
East Asian culture isn't really that influenced from Indo-Europeans directly but from other steppe peoples that they push further into the Mongolain Steppe and Manchuria.
A yes there were other Steppe peoples; proto-Turks, mongols and Tungusic peoples were among them. Go watch Jive’s video on horse domestication.
A these are the same people that invaded Egypt and brought in advanceD metallurgy. The Hyksos
@@robertmontana671 The Tajiks in China as well. They all live in uninhabitable regions, probably because they were pushed out of the oasis?
如果真的有种族灭绝，那么只有伊斯兰教会搞种族灭绝，我们中华民族汉族的历史上没有莫名其妙屠杀异族的历史，我们是建立长城阻挡匈奴入侵我们家园的民族，时至今日，我们中国的民族文化依然是讲求同存异。😐
Brother I absolutely enjoyed this presentation. The explanation of origins thru DNA was spot on. Well done. Think I'll make a feature film based on this history...just plain fascinating.
Wonderfully interesting, thank you.
Jeans are important.
they invented pants they should get a medal!
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My mind is blown once again, very good video 👍
bruh momentum hehe dito
as a ver thankful and very proud subscriber I was a little heart broken seeing my sweat Lusitânia cuted off screen, but i raised myself and i had a hell of a time! thanks bro 😉
Great video man, your production skills are getting really really strong
Phenomenal video and I have some questions for you about this and also I have an interesting lead for you regarding the mummies should you wish to research it further. I will try to get in contact with you to pass it on.
The Tocharian manuscript (as shown in video) shares so many similar features with my native manuscript, devnagri. I can identify some matras and some consonants, and even some sandhis.
no wonder hindus sadhus and yogis talk about gyanganj in that region. even shankaracharya went there to study
@@suhelmallickthoda ulta ho gya, chinese used to come here to study. even your arab masters used to come here to study before they started following the evil cult of an evil man.
I love your Videos..
I ordered some T-Shirts from your Website not too long ago.. I may order some more