Keep an eye for this thing to go on sale as the Win Max hits the market. Just quick note on battery life: Low-end systems = 5-7 hours High-end systems (7-12w) = ~3 hours P.s. 2TB SDXC slot.
They aren't really competitors though - the Win Max is a different class device from the Win 2. The inevitable Win 3 will be the real successor to the Win 2.
It's weird since u can get a switch for like 1/4 of the price. I mean u can run most of these system emulators on an average laptop. I got a $300 laptop. Plays GameCube, n64, and PlayStation well
@@MaiconMatos08 do you get Switch games for free? After you buy around 10 Switch games you already paid more than me for Win 2 and around a hundreed great games for it.
Even if modern PC handhelds don't run all emulators well (some emulators just require monstrous performance), just what it can perform teemed with the fact that you can play native PC games on the go is more than enough reason to love it. Dude, playing Monster Hunter World on that thing would be amazing.
you can play all 2000s PC games at 60fps on the go, concidering PC has games like Clive Bakers Undying, Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth, Pathologic, Mafia The City of Lost Heaven, Condemned, and you can put all those games in your pocket, this device is insanely worth it, even in 2024
@@ltsLex If it can at least barely run Switch titles (which are way more harder to run than PS2 titles) than I don't see why this bad boy wouldn't be able to run Silent Hill
I was watching this review whilst playing on my GPD Win 2 from mid 2018, and this is the first I've heard about the 2019 hardware refresh despite being an Indiegogo backer!
The refresh was mainly because the m3-7y30 CPU they originally used was discontinued. Other small pc's that also used that chip like the latte panda also switched to the 8100y cpu. Performance-wise, it's essentially the same as the m3 cpu, so it's not really a major upgrade
Love my Win 2. Playing all the games that I missed during PS360-era. Also use it for editing photos in Lightroom while on vacations. Thanks for the review! And my salary is less than $500 a month for those who say it's expensive, lol. Paying $60 for every Switch port of an older game that costs $5 on a Steam sale - well that what is ridiculously expensive. Also didn't have to wait or pay nothing to get my existing Steam library on Win 2 right from the start.
@EJT0002 I was talking about games from PS3 era, not about emulating PS3 ))) I haven't finished Deus Ex on PS3, for example, so I bought PC version on Steam for Win2.
@@Jeezet well yeah if your 15 but get a job and you could save that within 2 months working 25 hr weeks I worked at McDonald's when I was 16 after school hours.
This is your daily dose of Recommendation I thought you are ETA Prime "Hey what's going on, it's ETA Prime here" Also, man! Stupid expensive device! But phenomenal as it is a legit PC Windows Device, but mini! Not ARM! Intel Core M something....
uff, i was scared for a second there... i ordered mine 20 days ago, it's still on the way and i was afraid that u might say it's not worth it. luckily, not the case ;) thank you, Taki, be safe.
I think it is simply expensive for retro gaming, as there are many other alternatives. But to play through your entire Steam library on this, albeit falling behind to the last gen (with the lack of processing power) , is priceless.
Too many PC games dont work on the handheld without a mouse and keyboard or a proper monitor to see all the text and UI elements. A Switch is far better.
@@blastofo lol, Switch cannot run games like that too. How is it any better? Go play Batman, MGS, Silent Hill, Burnout, Deus Ex, Dishonored, Thief, Fallout, Borderlands, Alan Wake and many great games of the last ten years on "better Switch". You don't even know that many old games from GoG or Steam come with built in gamepad support.
Sly2Cooper It can. Watch the video reviews for them. Witcher 3 got a patch last month that boosted performance. The Switch can accomplish this because its Nvidia gpu is like one you would find in an entry level gaming laptop, instead of their own proprietary gpu. Its why the Switch has 2,000 games. But what matters is the games not the graphics. People with $2,000 gaming PC’s play Undertale and Hotline Miami. You cant play your smartphone games on a TV. A smartphone doesnt have the AAA console games, and a gaming laptop doesn’t have the portability or price of the switch.
I love your review. Quite frank, in-depth, analytical, & concise. I like how the business functionality is integrated with leisure/gaming in the design. But I think it's also a little funny/clumsy how tightly packed the keyboard is. Ingenious still.
Nice to finally see a handheld that can run PS2 games. Maybe in another couple years we will be at a point where there will be more options and everything will be fleshed out and more affordable.
Real talk: while it covers many systems, there are considerably cheaper options if that is what you are after. Your average Android phone should handle this just fine, short of Windows-based visual novels, and there are options there as well (there are cheap Windows tablets and laptops- I think those will be your best bet, and the same for most people wanting an emulation device that isnt *expressly* portable).
@@eko2_ If Game Freak fixes Pokemon Sword and Shield and makes the after game free. Also, fix the Pokemon Home. Make the price better or give the free version more storage so it can match the older titles that had GTS before. Maybe I'll buy the official release. But this is great for pirates.
I love my GPD Win 2. Its an amazing device. I upgraded mine to 1tb SSD and have a 512gb micro SD card in it. All that content and it fits in my pocket. Yes they are expensive but the sheer versatility of it in my opinion justifies it. I would do the heatsink mod but too worried about scuffing it or worse, damaging it. It can get warm but its not too bad.
I love mine. I've used it for almost every type of game imaginable. It also connects up nicely to the TV for big screen play. I have used it in conjunction with my VR setup as well as an omni controller so I don't have to have controllers, a keyboard, and a mouse all around me since it has all three built in. Great system. As for price I would recommend waiting for the next iteration and jumping on the kickstarter. I got my Win 2 for 500$ as opposed to the 7-1K price on amazon because I jumped on the early price that GPD tends to do for each of their products.
@@jaimef5668 basically since it has a keyboard, mouse, and controller integrated I used it as my terminal and connected to my main system. It just took care of input that didn't involve my vr controllers. All the heavy lifting was done by another system.
I would like one but I can not see how I would get this over a very small laptop that is capable of emulation, and many of those can go up to the GameCube, PS2, and Xbox, and since this can not play Switch games well, then there is no point.
This system is seriously impressive. It'd be nice if another refresh (or a new model all together) comes out this year with 10th gen Intel CPUs for even better performance. But to be honest, $800 is simply way too much for this kind of hardware. But then again it goes for around the same price as a normal laptop with similar hardware so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also wish it had clickable joysticks, but I guess you can't have everything.
@@eko2_ anygame you buy that is made before last gen are all sold second or third party meaning no money goes to the original devs. What is the point of spending possibly 5x more money on a game that is 15 yeare old than a modern release. Just look at the price of getting super Mario sunshine physical. That is why when it comes to anything that came before PS3 WII XBOX and 3DS. emulation is completely fine
3:27 I believe that button moves in that way so it can mimic trigger buttons that you would typically find on dualshock 4 controllers (im pretty sure xbox controllers are the same but I don't own one to confirm)
Out of all of the gaming handhelds that have ever existed in all of gaming history, the GPD Win 2 has been my favorite handheld to use while I’d be gaming on the go. And for what I loved about the GPD Win 2 best, while I can still be there to play all of my favorite games that have ever been released on either the Nintendo Entertainment System, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, the Nintendo 64, the GameCube, the original PlayStation, the Sega Genesis and the Sega DreamCast as well as the Game Boy, the Game Boy Color, the Game Boy Advance and the PSP as well as stream my PlayStation 4 whenever I can get Internet, I can also be there to play some of my favorite PlayStation 2 games in general, including those that sadly never saw neither a PlayStation 4 rerelease, a GameCube port nor a DreamCast port like Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith as well as some that I may want to mod to create bigger and better experiences for people like myself like Kingdom Hearts II and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, but that can all depend on your taste in nostalgia in general. I would also consider using my GPD Win 2 to play all of my favorite classic PC games in which I have nostalgic memories for in which sadly still never get to see any mobile ports of some sort, even up to this day. And when regarding the different PC games that I’ve played on there so far, there have been some I’ve played where I may get a black screen while running certain PC games in particular. However, other PC games that I’ve played have ran flawlessly. However as much as I would consider using a GPD Win 2 for gaming on the go aside from the Nintendo Switch, gaming wouldn’t be the only thing that I would consider doing on the GPD Win 2 at all. I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 for running certain apps in which I sadly cannot do on neither an iOS nor on an Android device. Like for example, I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 to arrange music on Sibelius. And whenever I feel ready to do so, I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 to do game designing on the go whenever I’m not home or at the very least I’m unable to use my MacBook Pro to do game designing. And when being very honest on what game designing software I’d use to make my dream game, after hearing good things about it, I just knew that I may want to use Unreal Engine for that.
As an owner of both models, stay away unless you want the screen and your heart broken. Put nearly 4 months worth of FF14 ingame over the past year and the whole time I would literally have nightmares about the left hinge snapping. The plastic will fail after enough swings
2:42 you mean it can support up to 2 Tera bytes? 2gb is 1/4th the ram. Doesnt make sense to me, I'm pretty sure its 2tb but sd cards will have to catch up. Idk if the San Disk even has 1TB Micros out ATM.
isn't that shoulder button that wiggles backwards and forwards in it's slot supposed to do that? it looks to me like it's an analogue trigger, so you can do stuff like hold it down only half way to accelerate at a reduced speed in a racing game
Man, when we were in the early days of the Emulation era, we had ethics about it. No new systems in the market, rom hacks and translations, but none of that leaching new releases and in-market stuff.
I mean the rom hacks, homebrews, and the translations are great! I do agree with these devices though. If you want to sell a device that emulates games, really it should be cheaper to buy and still great. I mean the Raspberry Pi makes a fucking PS2 now days! XD No excuse, this thing should be $250 at most. I mean as soon as buying 2 of the educatable consoles would cost more than one device, it passes. This is just a cool rich person gadget as I call it.
GPD Win series is really neat (for PC gamer like me it's probably the best option), it's a shame though that GPD Win 1 is no longer produced, since it was sold for about half of price of GPD Win 2. Yeah, its hardware wasn't so powerful and had some issues, but I personally still play on GPD Win 1 (despite buying and testing GPD Win 2 :P), since I've got attached to it. Really have hope that in next years GPD Win handhelds will become cheaper (or maybe there will be some reasonable alternatives? not counting infamous Smash-Z and PGS), because (IMO) there is nothing better than handheld which can deal with both DOS and Windows games. Possibility to play on the go in such games as Jazz Jackrabbit 2, Missionforce: Cyberstorm, Age of Wonders and many, many more is priceless.
You have to find them, it's just a tiny gaming laptop meant to be used as a handheld i've never understood why they market it as a emulator machine, and not a steam machine, Honestly not worth it for emulators since there are cheaper raspberry pi 4 builds that can do the same thing but the GDPs are one of the better ways to play PC games on the go
Thanks. Got mine this year for 600 USD (during a local sell), and 3DS is the only disappointment I've had so far (e.g. MK7). My previous GPD Win 1 battery died twice after one year respectively, for each battery; I can only hope that doesn't happen to my Win 2 as well, to declare it the very best handheld in existence.
GPD has a 1 year warranty. There was a mass problem with some faulty batteries on Win 2 but they fixed mine for free and changed battery vendor since then.
@@johnyjoe2k I got an MSI GE63 for $1,500 mark. Twice the price, but WAY more games can be played, better cooling, better processing, it's just better than that. Now portability lacks and even though it is a laptop, a track pad still sucks. Mac is way better with their track pads to be honest. Though their OEM keyboards are pricy and not reliable even in my experience. Trust me, it's more money and work to get an MSI but worth it. I agree, just thought passer-bys might want a bit of bonus information about a mid tier MSI.
was so dissapointed by the gpd win first gen because of the bad dpad battery screen woobble and instability on windows (try many different distro) that I'm no more onto buying a device where is not easy to change everything that is vital. Anyway as usual very good review :)
Hey Taki, great review! I have the GPD Win 2 with the updated CPU as well. Don’t know if it was an error, but you said the microSDXC slot does only 2GB of memory? Don’t know if you meant 256GB, cause right now I have a 64GB in mine, and it’s all there. Great review otherwise, I’ve been enjoying it quite a bit! Thanks for the recommendations on he software to undervolt the power. That’ll be nice to configure!
I had bought one when the Indiegogo had launched. Sadly my unit had some issues. I tinkered quite a lot on this badboy and ultimately sold it by pretty much breaking even (happy for that). It's a great device but mine lost it's purpose as the wi-fi turned out to be unreliable despite changing the antennas. Geforce Now, Stadia, PS Remote Play, Xbox Remote or Gamestream were hardly an option and it was my number one goal at the time for this device... I might give it a second try when the Max comes out.
Its exciting how fast yuzu originally was implemented, I remember like, 1 year in they got it to slightly work, sucks that it hasnt progressed too much though. I guess the switch is still being supported, so it doesn't matter too much, I just hope there's a more playable version by the time the switch gets a successor(prob about 4 years or more in the future) until then, I have a switch of my own so I guess it doesnt matter to me too much
Should you buy a GPD Win? Nah, GPD Win 2 is coming and will be better. Okay, should I buy GPD Win 2? Nah, GPD Max is coming and will be better. Okay, should I buy a GPD WIn Max? Nah, GPD Win 3 is coming and will be better. Okay, IM BUYING THE DAMN WIN 3 AND THAT'S THAT
Sure, but you do need to find out if they work for you because it is a lottery after all. My Wii/GC profile is 8.5/8.5 -75/-75, but I probably could have made a second profile with 5.5/5.5. I didn't know I could just copy the entire XTU Manager to get more slots. My 3ds profile is 8.5/8.5 -50/-50. Any undervolt higher than that and the app would crash playing Pokemon Ultra. I used 7/7 -80/-80 for PS2 for everything that wasn't GoW.
@@TakiUdon Thanks! I was just looking for a guideline. I guess it also depends on the drivers you use and the version of the emulators. So many variables LOL
@@TakiUdon I've heard that older models with M3-7Y30 CPU run emulators slightly better. Then again Win2 with newer CPUs are better for PC games. I'm using mine older Win2 for PS360-era multiplatform PC titles, so I would gladly change mine for a new version )))
Is it possible to hook up a 8tb or 10tb hard drive full of roms and hyperspin? And have PS2 and WiiU 3DS and Xboxes and switch ,running like on a High end PC running Hyperspin? Thanks for the great video.
One more thing that isn't mentioned, which is a knock to its built quality. GPD has yet to get the hinge right in any one of its products, and it will be an issue with the Win Max. More often than not, it will *always* be too tight. You'll need to pop open the back plate to loosen the hinge, or the plastic *will* break eventually.
W530 that I picked up for $200. It came with 16gb of ram and the 1080p screen replacement. I never knew why people liked them this much until I made it my daily PC. I've upgraded it with an SSD, an MSATA, and a HDD in the CD bay.
@@TakiUdon I have bought several through out the years. I have gifted them to family as well. These laptops are tanks that will continue to work for years to come. I plan on getting more and doing all the upgrades. It's fun and getting such a capable PC for cheap gives me a special feeling. Lol I even go to the thinkpads Reddit forum lol.
I have the 2018 version, not a bad device, except my usb 3 port died after I plugged something in and left it in drawer so now have to use a usb c to usb dongle or a splitter if I want to charge at same time. I also took the back off and put a small copper heatsink (same as you use for ram chips/raspberry pi's) over the cpu as without it it sounded like a jet engine and ran very hot to touch (not burning but enough to be uncomfortable) the copper heatsink/shim now cuts back on noise, and device no longer feels uncomfortable to touch and got 5-10 degrees temp difference.
technically, if you own the game, you're allowed to legally download the ROM. Or you could just.. not.. own the game, and download the ROM. then the police will bust into your house
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want one. The fact that it runs windows opens so many 'windows'. >I know that pun is bad but I'm saying anyways. Also I am seeing a lot more DmC Devil May Cry lately in videos. I'm glad, because that game was severely underrated when it's possibly one of the better action hack n slash games I have ever played next to the main series.
Well the first GPD Win 2 I received was defective, I just got the second one and it seems fine but I cant seem to get the controller to work with my emulators :(
Exciting stuff. For my money the best way to go is still to use a stretchy controller with my (high-end) phone. I already bought the phone, so it's not an added cost. The only drawback, as you mention, is that some high-end emulation is still better on Windows/x86 than on Android.
@Wisky Mo - If they could use a version similar to the Ryzen 4000 laptop chips, they could get away with it. www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-processors-laptop If you look at those, they have 8c/8t and 6c/12t with a Default TDP at 15W They even have the Ryzen 7 4800U which is 8c/16T, also at 15W. Now, the base clock is 1.8 GHz, but for a portable device, this is pretty high. That lower usage, probably combined with a larger 5,000 to 10,000 mAh battery, will give it pretty good battery life.
@@JediMastr80 he asked about heat it will most likely run at really high degrees if they cant manage the heat well with a fan or possibly water cooling? (not that insane right now)
Yober Where does all the heat go now? If you have a low power equivalent of the 4000 series, you can actually use a higher power draw CPU vs Intel’s CPUs since AMD is a node ahead at the moment. So there’s a chance that you could have a 25W limit and it only puts out as much heat as a 15W unit, which is what this currently is from what I can tell.
Great review and AWESOME little handheld. It's buying a mini Windows 10 laptop that doubles as a very capable gaming device. At the current cost, it isn't on my shopping list. Hopefully the price will come down in the coming months.
Honestly at this point I think if you have a tight budget but want PC/emulation on the go. The best choice is to wait.. now that cloud gaming is a thing 5g boasting a more reliable connection.. and phones just getting more powerful.. I would say just wait for a good 5g gaming phone.. then you have a new phone and a local or on the go streaming device that can also emulate anything and play the few good android games to boot.. at this point the only other option is to wait for a Gpd win 3 or some other windows portable device. Which the only benefit to that would be no spotty cloud problems and much less input lag compared to cloud gaming.
Just wait 5 years and well have a handheld similar to this, 400$ and equivalent to a i7 with a 1080 ti with all of these features plus cheaper memory every year. Won't be long and 1 Tb msd will be the standard instead of the current 128gb
128gb is plenty when your using emulators and if you need more than that it supports 2 tb in sd card slot. Now would i buy this? no but only becuase i don't have 800 dollars to throw around but if i had that kinda money i would totally get this!
I bought a GPD Win 1 and after a year of light use the battery is defective and if it's not plugged in then it can turn off and reset at any time, otherwise still works and looks good. That cost me C$550.
The cost is hugely inflated due to miniaturization in the components, and given it's a niche device, it isn't priced competitively. If you don't really need pocket-ability in a gaming device, this is a no-buy for sure.
@@joshua7426 for emulators, yes. For native windows games with a controller built-in, you can't. I doubt you'll see an android phone running fallout 4 or gta5 anytime soon.
I generally love your videos, but in regard to this device in particular I was honestly hoping for something more. :( This device seems amazing, but no one is covering what I want to see running on the thing. Libretro cores like Beetle_Saturn, or the Hardware accelerated PSX core. I think I saw Rogue Squadron running, but what was that running on? Mupen-Next? ParaLLEl? I'm also really curious about this storage. You mention it has an M2 drive and a 2GB slot. "2GB"? Really? What would be a solution for getting some 'real' space on the thing? I just have so many questions still about this thing.
Come on, the 2gb thing was obviously a mistake. If you're aware of the power it takes to run ParaLLE, then you'll know why people don't bother trying to run that type of stuff on this device.
@@TakiUdon Oh, I didn't realize it was a mistake at all. Was it supposed to be like 256Gb? That'd be a little bit better, but still. ParaLLEl doesn't seem like it takes an absurd amount of power, it runs on my dinky i5 just fine anyway. Even so Mupen-Next has surpassed all it's features recently and I've always felt it runs better but it's not like I can lookup sys-req for these things. "you'll know why people don't bother trying to run that type of stuff on this device." I don't understand that... at all... honestly. I mean, isn't that the entire point of having a device like this? To play - as you put it yourself - "40 years of gaming in the palm of your hand"? You seem defensive, so I'm sorry if I'm coming off like a dick. I'm not trying to be. I'm honestly curious about these things.
@@retropulse03 I feel the gpd win 2 really shines as a Steam/gog/epic gaming machine, also for remote play for ps4. I think you can expand storage to like 2TB. Personally I have a 512gb micro sd card to go with the internal 128gb M2 drive of storage on mine. You can replace both the sd card and the internal drive. I can play Street Fighter V, Dead or Alive 5 last round, Tomb Raider 2013 natively on it and using PS4 remote play I can play Horizon Zero dawn or Death Stranding or spider man so long as my internet connection is good enough. I think retro gaming actually requires even more power than normal games when you try to emulate anything relatively recent (emulation of a system takes way more power than the original system), so this machine is better at running native steam games, I personally don't use it to emulate but I realise many people do.
@@howardoh Yeah generally speaking, it's all CPU when it comes to emulation. Some of the recent systems being emulated like X360 or Wii U sort of break that mold, but the performance of a single thread on a CPU is 'usually' going to be what any given retro-emulator pulls all it's performance from. Which is obviously vastly different from modern PC games. Then of course that depends not just on the power of the original machine relative to your current specs, but how well an emulator works as well, which also can vary depending on the original system's architecture. Which is why it takes more power to run Sega Saturn than it does Dreamcast, for example - and ultimately why I'm curious to see if this device is capable of running something like Beetle_Saturn or Mupen-Next or PSX_HW, etc etc. 2TB?? I didn't even think they made cards that big.
Keep an eye for this thing to go on sale as the Win Max hits the market.
Just quick note on battery life:
Low-end systems = 5-7 hours
High-end systems (7-12w) = ~3 hours
P.s. 2TB SDXC slot.
Gpd win max is really thicc
They aren't really competitors though - the Win Max is a different class device from the Win 2. The inevitable Win 3 will be the real successor to the Win 2.
3 hours of high-end systems doesn't sound bad. I'm really impressed.
@@studioviper3016 If it ever comes out.
The gpd win 2 has been out for a while but the win 1 has yet to be sold cheaper :(
If only I could play all my switch games on the go...
@Cletus Zimmerman KNACK 2 BAYBEEE!
Cletus Zimmerman bruh i’m waiting for knack 3. it’s gonna be a master piece
@@pompefunebri7119 pfftt. Knack? But have you heard of gex? That's the best game right there
You're biased I win you lose beybey
@@jente582 knack 2 tha future baby!
2:45 I think you meant 2 terabytes?
oops.
😂
Yeah I was mad confused, that's a pretty ridiculous spec
Welcome to future🌟
I was gonna say, 2 GB is too useless.
Unless this is endorsed by Soulja Boi, I ain't buying this!
Like that makes a difference. Give your money to which greedy person? Lmao
@@deebonash1495 you should google what sarcasm is
@@dewantoro8202 oh shit. I read "USELESS" I read the sarcasm now. He said UNLESS so now I can laugh 😂😂😂😫😫
That's EX-SOLDIER boy...
Armando Faith I was asking about your age man!
Me: hmm maybe I should ge-
Price: I'm gonna stop you right there
You can buy a PS5 and a 2DS with the money smh
@@HandledToaster2 ps5 is gonna be 650 bucks right and you gotta buy games for it💀
@@HandledToaster2 yeah because the ps5 comes with free games...💀
Me and you both brother
@@HandledToaster2
Lmao with games that are going to cost 70 bucks(without dlc)
I was interested in getting one but then I looked at the price and figured out it’s cheaper to buy the base model of every current gen console.
Or a decent laptop that can do all that and more with a bigger surface area.
@@Alexander_l322 its going to take more than a "decent" laptop to run current gen consoles
@@sypenn2502 you cant even emulate current gen apart from switch! Lol
It's weird since u can get a switch for like 1/4 of the price. I mean u can run most of these system emulators on an average laptop. I got a $300 laptop. Plays GameCube, n64, and PlayStation well
@@sypenn2502 come back here and reply to me, you think your so smart. Lol
Impressive that it could run Switch games.
For "Only" U$800, Must Be a Joke.
"a" switch game, at 15 fps. Not playable, but a cool demo none the less.
believe it or not, a high-end school laptop has similar or better graphics than a Switch.
@@MaiconMatos08 do you get Switch games for free? After you buy around 10 Switch games you already paid more than me for Win 2 and around a hundreed great games for it.
@@Sly2Cooper What about sales in eshop?
Great review, totally agree on your last point, GPD should hire whoever engineered those pricey mods that provide better performance potential.
what mods? links?
Even if modern PC handhelds don't run all emulators well (some emulators just require monstrous performance), just what it can perform teemed with the fact that you can play native PC games on the go is more than enough reason to love it. Dude, playing Monster Hunter World on that thing would be amazing.
you can play all 2000s PC games at 60fps on the go, concidering PC has games like Clive Bakers Undying, Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth, Pathologic, Mafia The City of Lost Heaven, Condemned, and you can put all those games in your pocket, this device is insanely worth it, even in 2024
im so glad that this channel exists; youve opened up a whole new world to me. cant wait to get and start using one of these emulation handhelds myself
Same
Me: "I wonder what I should play toda-"
*GPD Win 2: “hi”*
*helo
Do u mean Dota?
lol, gpd jus sitting in ur room lonely.....u turn around lookin for ur switch
hi (;-;)
I own a beast gaming pc and the GPD Win 2. The reason is that it is a Indie game machine fir me while I travel. This is worth every penny.
i own dsi xl and normal pc, the reason is i hate my life :)
Call me a dick but alienware UFO is going to blow the GPD Win 2 out of the water...
Can it run silent hill 2 either pc or ps2 version
@@ltsLex If it can at least barely run Switch titles (which are way more harder to run than PS2 titles) than I don't see why this bad boy wouldn't be able to run Silent Hill
@@PiggyMonsta2009 okay I'm bouta buy that shit rn, playing silent hill 2 portable is the dreammm
Wow. What an incredibly well written (and spoken) review. Thanks so much man!! Love your channel.
I was watching this review whilst playing on my GPD Win 2 from mid 2018, and this is the first I've heard about the 2019 hardware refresh despite being an Indiegogo backer!
The refresh was mainly because the m3-7y30 CPU they originally used was discontinued. Other small pc's that also used that chip like the latte panda also switched to the 8100y cpu. Performance-wise, it's essentially the same as the m3 cpu, so it's not really a major upgrade
Love my Win 2. Playing all the games that I missed during PS360-era. Also use it for editing photos in Lightroom while on vacations.
Thanks for the review!
And my salary is less than $500 a month for those who say it's expensive, lol. Paying $60 for every Switch port of an older game that costs $5 on a Steam sale - well that what is ridiculously expensive. Also didn't have to wait or pay nothing to get my existing Steam library on Win 2 right from the start.
@EJT0002 I was talking about games from PS3 era, not about emulating PS3 ))) I haven't finished Deus Ex on PS3, for example, so I bought PC version on Steam for Win2.
Just looked at the price... *I will never financially recover from this*
600 dollars isn't even that much my dude...
@@madmatt6454 I'm 15 heck of a lot of cash I dont got lol
@@Jeezet well yeah if your 15 but get a job and you could save that within 2 months working 25 hr weeks
I worked at McDonald's when I was 16 after school hours.
@@madmatt6454 I wish man, parents are too strict with the covid, I was supposed to get a job but didnt happen. Hopefully soon tho
@@madmatt6454 Any jobs online? XD
Never heard of this device until I saw this review. It looks really cool.
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I thought you are ETA Prime
"Hey what's going on, it's ETA Prime here"
Also, man! Stupid expensive device! But phenomenal as it is a legit PC Windows Device, but mini!
Not ARM! Intel Core M something....
wow, this is the most amazing handheld I've ever seen
uff, i was scared for a second there... i ordered mine 20 days ago, it's still on the way and i was afraid that u might say it's not worth it. luckily, not the case ;) thank you, Taki, be safe.
You too =D
Great review. Didn't think it could run the Nintendo Switch Emulator buddy.
Wailordlover that shit was crazy
But it can “buddy”
The Minty Grape weird
15 fps lmao
Isn't Switch emulator only compatible with like 3 games anyway?
As impressive as this is, it doesn’t really look comfortable to hold and play with
Con D. Oriano agreed
Its actually more comfortable than you think.
You talk about comfortable, look at the upcoming GPD Win Max, you will then appreciate the Win 2
It is.
My hands will go numb and have no feeling just like when I play my ds
I think it is simply expensive for retro gaming, as there are many other alternatives. But to play through your entire Steam library on this, albeit falling behind to the last gen (with the lack of processing power) , is priceless.
Win2 runs most games better than PS3 or 360. The performance is on par with Switch.
Its runs better becoz emulators development is great
Too many PC games dont work on the handheld without a mouse and keyboard or a proper monitor to see all the text and UI elements. A Switch is far better.
@@blastofo lol, Switch cannot run games like that too. How is it any better? Go play Batman, MGS, Silent Hill, Burnout, Deus Ex, Dishonored, Thief, Fallout, Borderlands, Alan Wake and many great games of the last ten years on "better Switch".
You don't even know that many old games from GoG or Steam come with built in gamepad support.
Sly2Cooper It can. Watch the video reviews for them. Witcher 3 got a patch last month that boosted performance. The Switch can accomplish this because its Nvidia gpu is like one you would find in an entry level gaming laptop, instead of their own proprietary gpu. Its why the Switch has 2,000 games. But what matters is the games not the graphics. People with $2,000 gaming PC’s play Undertale and Hotline Miami. You cant play your smartphone games on a TV. A smartphone doesnt have the AAA console games, and a gaming laptop doesn’t have the portability or price of the switch.
I love your review. Quite frank, in-depth, analytical, & concise. I like how the business functionality is integrated with leisure/gaming in the design. But I think it's also a little funny/clumsy how tightly packed the keyboard is. Ingenious still.
A dream for me too... but it will stay a dream...
Rob the bank
still?
11:23 oh yeah I love playing Pokémon Alpha and Ultra
Love the profile pic my g
Nice to finally see a handheld that can run PS2 games. Maybe in another couple years we will be at a point where there will be more options and everything will be fleshed out and more affordable.
It's like the Steam Deck was just waiting for you
This thing is like the ultimate visual novel machine. God damn.
Why
andrea gtfj I’m with Andrea gtfj
Real talk: while it covers many systems, there are considerably cheaper options if that is what you are after. Your average Android phone should handle this just fine, short of Windows-based visual novels, and there are options there as well (there are cheap Windows tablets and laptops- I think those will be your best bet, and the same for most people wanting an emulation device that isnt *expressly* portable).
RaineTCG vita only supports ported titles, although on the titles that were ported, I agree with you wholeheartedly
@RaineTCG steam has more visual novels
Two cons for me...... the price tag is insane... $800.00 wtf 😳🤬 and its a bit on the chunky side........
I'll jump on in two years when theres more competition
$800 like a phone...
I never understood why anyone would spend more than a hundred or two on a phone
600 in China
@@vanessathomas9641 yeah most people buy $1200 phones but they don't need them
Thank you for this video, I really want one of these but I needed to see more information before I battled with the price. 😁
😁😁😁😀😀😀😂
Me: This is so cool. I wonder how much it cost?
** searches's device
My wallet : Aight, I'm a head out
Thanks for using the XTU Manager I created!
At 2:38 you are saying you can just add 2GB SD Storage, I think you meant 2 TB ;)
Very original comment, thank you
@@aidanprotheroe9603 it's what happens when commenters don't bother reading through comments before posting their own.
@@ohboy6738 this is the only top comment for me talking about the 2GB mistake.
@@aidanprotheroe9603 Try to do my best ;)
@@rexxxx1984 not sure if you're missing or embracing the sarcastic reply.
actually going to start a custom pc handheld with the exact chip this console has. Main goal is emulation (specifically Wii U and 3Ds emulation).
If the price drops it _may_ be worth a punt!
Fuck off misogynist
Or you could buy the official items and support the official release.
@@eko2_ If Game Freak fixes Pokemon Sword and Shield and makes the after game free. Also, fix the Pokemon Home. Make the price better or give the free version more storage so it can match the older titles that had GTS before. Maybe I'll buy the official release.
But this is great for pirates.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong it's impressive but the price tag needs to come down a bit to warrant a purchase imo
@@eko2_ fuck off
Cool birthday present! Nice review dude! Love from Pittsburgh PA!
I love my GPD Win 2. Its an amazing device. I upgraded mine to 1tb SSD and have a 512gb micro SD card in it. All that content and it fits in my pocket. Yes they are expensive but the sheer versatility of it in my opinion justifies it. I would do the heatsink mod but too worried about scuffing it or worse, damaging it. It can get warm but its not too bad.
Just wondering... How much does it cost? (the GPD Win 2).
@@DanielMorales-wo8xv link says $697 USD
@@DanielMorales-wo8xv
About £600 or so
@Taki for using the left stick as a mouse you can install the app "Controller Companion". The switch has to be in controller mode for it to work.
I know, I just wish they provided this by default.
just seeing Kingdom Hearts 2 able to run on this thing makes it look promising...
Strikemau5 for $600 you could buy a ps2 and a copy of the game and still have $580 left over
Anthony Parks i already own a ps2 and a copy of kh2. But I like seeing how non-PS2 technology can run such a game
I love mine. I've used it for almost every type of game imaginable. It also connects up nicely to the TV for big screen play. I have used it in conjunction with my VR setup as well as an omni controller so I don't have to have controllers, a keyboard, and a mouse all around me since it has all three built in. Great system. As for price I would recommend waiting for the next iteration and jumping on the kickstarter. I got my Win 2 for 500$ as opposed to the 7-1K price on amazon because I jumped on the early price that GPD tends to do for each of their products.
How did you use it with your vr?
@@jaimef5668 basically since it has a keyboard, mouse, and controller integrated I used it as my terminal and connected to my main system. It just took care of input that didn't involve my vr controllers. All the heavy lifting was done by another system.
I would like one but I can not see how I would get this over a very small laptop that is capable of emulation, and many of those can go up to the GameCube, PS2, and Xbox, and since this can not play Switch games well, then there is no point.
I agree man
The main point of this console is not emulation. It's playing most of your steam library on the go.
True
It's tempting me, more to read visual novels and one or another game and also to see if it pulls the master chief's collection decently
This system is seriously impressive. It'd be nice if another refresh (or a new model all together) comes out this year with 10th gen Intel CPUs for even better performance. But to be honest, $800 is simply way too much for this kind of hardware. But then again it goes for around the same price as a normal laptop with similar hardware so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also wish it had clickable joysticks, but I guess you can't have everything.
Man I wish I had money to spend like that
Or you could buy the legit items and games to support the official release.
Eko 2 like anyone's gonna buy a console just for a specific game
@@eko2_ No money is lost from pirating old games companies don't offer.
Alice a lot of people do I know quite a few people who only bought a PlayStation just for god of war and a pc just for the Witcher 3
@@eko2_ anygame you buy that is made before last gen are all sold second or third party meaning no money goes to the original devs. What is the point of spending possibly 5x more money on a game that is 15 yeare old than a modern release. Just look at the price of getting super Mario sunshine physical. That is why when it comes to anything that came before PS3 WII XBOX and 3DS. emulation is completely fine
3:27 I believe that button moves in that way so it can mimic trigger buttons that you would typically find on dualshock 4 controllers (im pretty sure xbox controllers are the same but I don't own one to confirm)
9:44 I had no idea you could solve that puzzle without kicking the thing to the other side! 🤯🤯🤯
LOL, that's how I've always done it.
Out of all of the gaming handhelds that have ever existed in all of gaming history, the GPD Win 2 has been my favorite handheld to use while I’d be gaming on the go. And for what I loved about the GPD Win 2 best, while I can still be there to play all of my favorite games that have ever been released on either the Nintendo Entertainment System, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, the Nintendo 64, the GameCube, the original PlayStation, the Sega Genesis and the Sega DreamCast as well as the Game Boy, the Game Boy Color, the Game Boy Advance and the PSP as well as stream my PlayStation 4 whenever I can get Internet, I can also be there to play some of my favorite PlayStation 2 games in general, including those that sadly never saw neither a PlayStation 4 rerelease, a GameCube port nor a DreamCast port like Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith as well as some that I may want to mod to create bigger and better experiences for people like myself like Kingdom Hearts II and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, but that can all depend on your taste in nostalgia in general. I would also consider using my GPD Win 2 to play all of my favorite classic PC games in which I have nostalgic memories for in which sadly still never get to see any mobile ports of some sort, even up to this day. And when regarding the different PC games that I’ve played on there so far, there have been some I’ve played where I may get a black screen while running certain PC games in particular. However, other PC games that I’ve played have ran flawlessly. However as much as I would consider using a GPD Win 2 for gaming on the go aside from the Nintendo Switch, gaming wouldn’t be the only thing that I would consider doing on the GPD Win 2 at all. I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 for running certain apps in which I sadly cannot do on neither an iOS nor on an Android device. Like for example, I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 to arrange music on Sibelius. And whenever I feel ready to do so, I would also consider using a GPD Win 2 to do game designing on the go whenever I’m not home or at the very least I’m unable to use my MacBook Pro to do game designing. And when being very honest on what game designing software I’d use to make my dream game, after hearing good things about it, I just knew that I may want to use Unreal Engine for that.
As an owner of both models, stay away unless you want the screen and your heart broken. Put nearly 4 months worth of FF14 ingame over the past year and the whole time I would literally have nightmares about the left hinge snapping. The plastic will fail after enough swings
2:42 you mean it can support up to 2 Tera bytes? 2gb is 1/4th the ram. Doesnt make sense to me, I'm pretty sure its 2tb but sd cards will have to catch up. Idk if the San Disk even has 1TB Micros out ATM.
This console is my kind of dream 😍 I wish...
isn't that shoulder button that wiggles backwards and forwards in it's slot supposed to do that? it looks to me like it's an analogue trigger, so you can do stuff like hold it down only half way to accelerate at a reduced speed in a racing game
Nope, it's digital.
Man, when we were in the early days of the Emulation era, we had ethics about it. No new systems in the market, rom hacks and translations, but none of that leaching new releases and in-market stuff.
I mean the rom hacks, homebrews, and the translations are great! I do agree with these devices though. If you want to sell a device that emulates games, really it should be cheaper to buy and still great. I mean the Raspberry Pi makes a fucking PS2 now days! XD
No excuse, this thing should be $250 at most. I mean as soon as buying 2 of the educatable consoles would cost more than one device, it passes. This is just a cool rich person gadget as I call it.
Yeah, putting switch games on it is just hurting sales. If a game is quite old then it’s fine if you emulate it but this is current gen so
GPD Win series is really neat (for PC gamer like me it's probably the best option), it's a shame though that GPD Win 1 is no longer produced, since it was sold for about half of price of GPD Win 2. Yeah, its hardware wasn't so powerful and had some issues, but I personally still play on GPD Win 1 (despite buying and testing GPD Win 2 :P), since I've got attached to it. Really have hope that in next years GPD Win handhelds will become cheaper (or maybe there will be some reasonable alternatives? not counting infamous Smash-Z and PGS), because (IMO) there is nothing better than handheld which can deal with both DOS and Windows games. Possibility to play on the go in such games as Jazz Jackrabbit 2, Missionforce: Cyberstorm, Age of Wonders and many, many more is priceless.
So does it come with the emulators or do i have to find them.
If you have to find them it's not a big deal. Many websites have them online
You have to find them, it's just a tiny gaming laptop meant to be used as a handheld i've never understood why they market it as a emulator machine, and not a steam machine, Honestly not worth it for emulators since there are cheaper raspberry pi 4 builds that can do the same thing but the GDPs are one of the better ways to play PC games on the go
Thanks. Got mine this year for 600 USD (during a local sell), and 3DS is the only disappointment I've had so far (e.g. MK7). My previous GPD Win 1 battery died twice after one year respectively, for each battery; I can only hope that doesn't happen to my Win 2 as well, to declare it the very best handheld in existence.
GPD has a 1 year warranty. There was a mass problem with some faulty batteries on Win 2 but they fixed mine for free and changed battery vendor since then.
$775! Might as well just buy a gaming laptop at that price!
Or a gaming PC and upgrade it later.
Just normal laptops like the surface laptop cost at lot more then 775
for 80$ powkiddy a19 but not ps2 and wii
@@ArtemisWasHere that's because those have a premium price tag. An MSI, Asus, Acer or Dell gaming laptop can be had for $775 or less.
@@johnyjoe2k I got an MSI GE63 for $1,500 mark. Twice the price, but WAY more games can be played, better cooling, better processing, it's just better than that. Now portability lacks and even though it is a laptop, a track pad still sucks. Mac is way better with their track pads to be honest. Though their OEM keyboards are pricy and not reliable even in my experience. Trust me, it's more money and work to get an MSI but worth it. I agree, just thought passer-bys might want a bit of bonus information about a mid tier MSI.
was so dissapointed by the gpd win first gen because of the bad dpad battery screen woobble and instability on windows (try many different distro) that I'm no more onto buying a device where is not easy to change everything that is vital. Anyway as usual very good review :)
Hey Taki, great review! I have the GPD Win 2 with the updated CPU as well. Don’t know if it was an error, but you said the microSDXC slot does only 2GB of memory? Don’t know if you meant 256GB, cause right now I have a 64GB in mine, and it’s all there. Great review otherwise, I’ve been enjoying it quite a bit! Thanks for the recommendations on he software to undervolt the power. That’ll be nice to configure!
I'm 99% sure he meant 2TB
I had bought one when the Indiegogo had launched. Sadly my unit had some issues. I tinkered quite a lot on this badboy and ultimately sold it by pretty much breaking even (happy for that).
It's a great device but mine lost it's purpose as the wi-fi turned out to be unreliable despite changing the antennas. Geforce Now, Stadia, PS Remote Play, Xbox Remote or Gamestream were hardly an option and it was my number one goal at the time for this device... I might give it a second try when the Max comes out.
Exactly what I've been saying just very conciclily 🙏🏾
I'm going to mess with Yuzu after I get over my Darkplaces fix
Its exciting how fast yuzu originally was implemented, I remember like, 1 year in they got it to slightly work, sucks that it hasnt progressed too much though. I guess the switch is still being supported, so it doesn't matter too much, I just hope there's a more playable version by the time the switch gets a successor(prob about 4 years or more in the future) until then, I have a switch of my own so I guess it doesnt matter to me too much
Should you buy a GPD Win?
Nah, GPD Win 2 is coming and will be better.
Okay, should I buy GPD Win 2?
Nah, GPD Max is coming and will be better.
Okay, should I buy a GPD WIn Max?
Nah, GPD Win 3 is coming and will be better.
Okay, IM BUYING THE DAMN WIN 3 AND THAT'S THAT
Did you like the GPD Win 3?
Can you provide the TDP you used in XTU manager for PS2 , Gamecube and 3ds?
Sure, but you do need to find out if they work for you because it is a lottery after all. My Wii/GC profile is 8.5/8.5 -75/-75, but I probably could have made a second profile with 5.5/5.5. I didn't know I could just copy the entire XTU Manager to get more slots. My 3ds profile is 8.5/8.5 -50/-50. Any undervolt higher than that and the app would crash playing Pokemon Ultra. I used 7/7 -80/-80 for PS2 for everything that wasn't GoW.
@@TakiUdon Thanks! I was just looking for a guideline. I guess it also depends on the drivers you use and the version of the emulators. So many variables LOL
@@TakiUdon there's a vid on youtube that runs God of War 2 fullspeed 60fps at 7 watts.
@@Sly2Cooper He's not using this device and he has the cooling mod. It makes a big difference.
@@TakiUdon I've heard that older models with M3-7Y30 CPU run emulators slightly better. Then again Win2 with newer CPUs are better for PC games. I'm using mine older Win2 for PS360-era multiplatform PC titles, so I would gladly change mine for a new version )))
Thank you for making this video. Very thorough and well done!
2:44 Only 2GB? That doesn't sound right, or it just sounds useless.
He misspoke, it's 2 TB
Is it possible to hook up a 8tb or 10tb hard drive full of roms and hyperspin?
And have PS2 and WiiU 3DS and Xboxes and switch ,running like on a High end PC running Hyperspin?
Thanks for the great video.
Yes, I actually had this hooked up to an external HD for most of this testing. I moved games over that ran well to the internal SSD.
@@TakiUdon awesome!
Thanks man.
I appreciate you.
Controler companion on steam is the app you need to try :)
Or just enable controller support in Steam, and make a profile for Desktop. These are features that literally come with Steam.
One more thing that isn't mentioned, which is a knock to its built quality. GPD has yet to get the hinge right in any one of its products, and it will be an issue with the Win Max. More often than not, it will *always* be too tight. You'll need to pop open the back plate to loosen the hinge, or the plastic *will* break eventually.
Absolutely love thinkpads, which model do you use for the channel I'm very curious?
W530 that I picked up for $200. It came with 16gb of ram and the 1080p screen replacement. I never knew why people liked them this much until I made it my daily PC. I've upgraded it with an SSD, an MSATA, and a HDD in the CD bay.
@@TakiUdon I have bought several through out the years. I have gifted them to family as well. These laptops are tanks that will continue to work for years to come. I plan on getting more and doing all the upgrades. It's fun and getting such a capable PC for cheap gives me a special feeling. Lol I even go to the thinkpads Reddit forum lol.
@EJT0002 yes the old ones are fantastic, search on TH-cam about it. Many videos on why they are amazing. Particularly the W, X and T series.
I have the 2018 version, not a bad device, except my usb 3 port died after I plugged something in and left it in drawer so now have to use a usb c to usb dongle or a splitter if I want to charge at same time. I also took the back off and put a small copper heatsink (same as you use for ram chips/raspberry pi's) over the cpu as without it it sounded like a jet engine and ran very hot to touch (not burning but enough to be uncomfortable) the copper heatsink/shim now cuts back on noise, and device no longer feels uncomfortable to touch and got 5-10 degrees temp difference.
The real question:
Where do you get the games?
That's a cool thing I like to call pirating!
They're called ROMS. And it's not illegal. Depending how you use it. Thought youd know since you watched this video.
technically, if you own the game, you're allowed to legally download the ROM. Or you could just.. not.. own the game, and download the ROM. then the police will bust into your house
i love the gpd 1 and 2 but is very expensive, great video like always
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want one.
The fact that it runs windows opens so many 'windows'.
>I know that pun is bad but I'm saying anyways.
Also I am seeing a lot more DmC Devil May Cry lately in videos. I'm glad, because that game was severely underrated when it's possibly one of the better action hack n slash games I have ever played next to the main series.
at 2:45 do you mean terabytes, or gigabytes? i was thinking of getting one, and 2 gigabytes isn't a whole lot. just making sure
This is so cool!
Finally! A 3ds, Wii, Wii U and Gamecube handheld!
Oh, it costs $1,000. I guess that makes sense.
Did not expect switch games to run. Amazing how far we are in emulation
literallytrash % it cant runt any actual good switch “games” for the price you might as well just buy a gaming laptop
Thanks to your excellent video I just purchased one!
Let me know if you need any help. There is a bunch of little things to do right when you get it.
@@TakiUdon oh wow that is really nice of you, thanks so much!
Well the first GPD Win 2 I received was defective, I just got the second one and it seems fine but I cant seem to get the controller to work with my emulators :(
Posting a video about 2019 in 2020
Or about a 2019 product in 2020.
Is this only for gaming or can you also do stuff at Internet and use it as a pc
Mehmed Salih Pürcü you can, but it’s definitely not optimal
@@TotallyNotGhost thanks
Yes
It's a great device, yet it is way too loud when under load. I had it for a half a year and sold it because it just got too loud and hot.
Exciting stuff. For my money the best way to go is still to use a stretchy controller with my (high-end) phone. I already bought the phone, so it's not an added cost. The only drawback, as you mention, is that some high-end emulation is still better on Windows/x86 than on Android.
Shouldn't the title say (2020)
This is from 2019
@@TakiUdon but you published the video in 2020..
@@SRC267 This is the GPD WIN 2 "2019" version...
Anyone know what the games were at 13:11 and 13:23??
Le Monkey Dude first one is A Story About My Uncle
Amazing how far switch emulation has come!
from what i know the l2 and r2 buttons are supposed to be analog and detect how far they are pushed.
Highly Recommend.
Highly Recommend Sell Your Kidneys.
Maybe Is Cheaper To Buy All VideoGames Show Emulated In The Video Instead of This.
I have a GPD Win 2 8100y version. Though how did you manage to get yuzu (Switch emulator) working? When I use it, it only runs extremely slow.
Once you build up the cache the first time, then it will go faster.
@@TakiUdon what is the recommended settings for yuzu?
@@Tristan3579 Vulkan and Async
It would be awesome if it had a Ryzen 4000 chip in it
and where is all the heat supposed to go? what about battery life?
@Wisky Mo - If they could use a version similar to the Ryzen 4000 laptop chips, they could get away with it.
www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-processors-laptop
If you look at those, they have 8c/8t and 6c/12t with a Default TDP at 15W
They even have the Ryzen 7 4800U which is 8c/16T, also at 15W.
Now, the base clock is 1.8 GHz, but for a portable device, this is pretty high.
That lower usage, probably combined with a larger 5,000 to 10,000 mAh battery, will give it pretty good battery life.
@@JediMastr80 he asked about heat
it will most likely run at really high degrees if they cant manage the heat well with a fan or possibly water cooling? (not that insane right now)
Yober Where does all the heat go now? If you have a low power equivalent of the 4000 series, you can actually use a higher power draw CPU vs Intel’s CPUs since AMD is a node ahead at the moment. So there’s a chance that you could have a 25W limit and it only puts out as much heat as a 15W unit, which is what this currently is from what I can tell.
Great review and AWESOME little handheld. It's buying a mini Windows 10 laptop that doubles as a very capable gaming device. At the current cost, it isn't on my shopping list. Hopefully the price will come down in the coming months.
im fine with my ps vita oled :)
OG 5 month sub!
@@TakiUdon :))))
@sa oef yeah dude
Me too
Same here Brotharrr
Honestly at this point I think if you have a tight budget but want PC/emulation on the go. The best choice is to wait.. now that cloud gaming is a thing 5g boasting a more reliable connection.. and phones just getting more powerful.. I would say just wait for a good 5g gaming phone.. then you have a new phone and a local or on the go streaming device that can also emulate anything and play the few good android games to boot.. at this point the only other option is to wait for a Gpd win 3 or some other windows portable device. Which the only benefit to that would be no spotty cloud problems and much less input lag compared to cloud gaming.
Lol,I took this to my collage and the teacher went like WTF is that.
goose king Lol
How does one enter collage?
Just wait 5 years and well have a handheld similar to this, 400$ and equivalent to a i7 with a 1080 ti with all of these features plus cheaper memory every year. Won't be long and 1 Tb msd will be the standard instead of the current 128gb
128gb is plenty when your using emulators and if you need more than that it supports 2 tb in sd card slot. Now would i buy this? no but only becuase i don't have 800 dollars to throw around but if i had that kinda money i would totally get this!
I bought the first version for PS2 fighting games and some AAA titles
And how was it?
@@41dn a nice sacrifice for xmas 2018...
How does tekken 4 look?
HanzoHimemiya what ps2 emulator are you using?
@@josem.garibay5478 pcsx2
How do you run games on these kind of devices? Downloading Roms?
and gog
C$ 949.65 + $ 15.64 :o woow that's expensive, can build a whole gaming pc for that price lol
I bought a GPD Win 1 and after a year of light use the battery is defective and if it's not plugged in then it can turn off and reset at any time, otherwise still works and looks good. That cost me C$550.
Can buy a far more powerful phone that can do the exact same thing with higher rez display for actually cheaper
The cost is hugely inflated due to miniaturization in the components, and given it's a niche device, it isn't priced competitively. If you don't really need pocket-ability in a gaming device, this is a no-buy for sure.
@@joshua7426 You can play PC games on your phone and also use it for work ? You are talking BS.
@@joshua7426 for emulators, yes. For native windows games with a controller built-in, you can't. I doubt you'll see an android phone running fallout 4 or gta5 anytime soon.
Is this version able to run Killer Instinct 1&2 in Mame at a decent frame rate?
Just search TH-cam th-cam.com/video/h2fNZz6pc7g/w-d-xo.html - it's 60fps.
That’s friggin’ awesome! Finally a handheld KI. Now it jut needs to come down in price :)
Yes
I generally love your videos, but in regard to this device in particular I was honestly hoping for something more. :( This device seems amazing, but no one is covering what I want to see running on the thing. Libretro cores like Beetle_Saturn, or the Hardware accelerated PSX core. I think I saw Rogue Squadron running, but what was that running on? Mupen-Next? ParaLLEl? I'm also really curious about this storage. You mention it has an M2 drive and a 2GB slot. "2GB"? Really? What would be a solution for getting some 'real' space on the thing? I just have so many questions still about this thing.
Come on, the 2gb thing was obviously a mistake. If you're aware of the power it takes to run ParaLLE, then you'll know why people don't bother trying to run that type of stuff on this device.
@@TakiUdon Oh, I didn't realize it was a mistake at all. Was it supposed to be like 256Gb? That'd be a little bit better, but still.
ParaLLEl doesn't seem like it takes an absurd amount of power, it runs on my dinky i5 just fine anyway. Even so Mupen-Next has surpassed all it's features recently and I've always felt it runs better but it's not like I can lookup sys-req for these things.
"you'll know why people don't bother trying to run that type of stuff on this device." I don't understand that... at all... honestly. I mean, isn't that the entire point of having a device like this? To play - as you put it yourself - "40 years of gaming in the palm of your hand"?
You seem defensive, so I'm sorry if I'm coming off like a dick. I'm not trying to be. I'm honestly curious about these things.
@@retropulse03 I feel the gpd win 2 really shines as a Steam/gog/epic gaming machine, also for remote play for ps4. I think you can expand storage to like 2TB. Personally I have a 512gb micro sd card to go with the internal 128gb M2 drive of storage on mine. You can replace both the sd card and the internal drive. I can play Street Fighter V, Dead or Alive 5 last round, Tomb Raider 2013 natively on it and using PS4 remote play I can play Horizon Zero dawn or Death Stranding or spider man so long as my internet connection is good enough. I think retro gaming actually requires even more power than normal games when you try to emulate anything relatively recent (emulation of a system takes way more power than the original system), so this machine is better at running native steam games, I personally don't use it to emulate but I realise many people do.
@@howardoh Yeah generally speaking, it's all CPU when it comes to emulation. Some of the recent systems being emulated like X360 or Wii U sort of break that mold, but the performance of a single thread on a CPU is 'usually' going to be what any given retro-emulator pulls all it's performance from. Which is obviously vastly different from modern PC games.
Then of course that depends not just on the power of the original machine relative to your current specs, but how well an emulator works as well, which also can vary depending on the original system's architecture.
Which is why it takes more power to run Sega Saturn than it does Dreamcast, for example - and ultimately why I'm curious to see if this device is capable of running something like Beetle_Saturn or Mupen-Next or PSX_HW, etc etc.
2TB?? I didn't even think they made cards that big.
Any recommendations I want to buy something that's fully loaded that I can play on the go. I have a vita but I have no idea how to mod it.
How would 3ds games work when you need two screens
“Duel” screens ahahaha
splitting the display
But what about needing touch screen?