The Nintendo Switch Will NEVER Be the Same // MIG-Switch Dumper Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2024
- The Mig-Switch Dumper is here, and it's going to have a big impact on the Nintendo Switch with the Mig-Switch Card.
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Lol the more your prompted the more likely your eliminated
Hey taki, was was the os? I can tell linux running gnome, but it looks suprisingly clean running on a switch oled
Downloading this video rn.
Using a Nintendo Switch to emulate a Nintendo Switch game and getting a better performance than the real Nintendo Switch would get natively is just... WILD... Ouch...
A jailbroken Switch doing better than stock switch, where optimizations go a long way.
Kind of dumb, and I found that example by accident. If I used another Switch game for that section, I would not have found that out.
@@TakiUdon yeah I know that this process is not going to have the same outcome for all switch games, of course mostly will certainly show the complete opposite since the Switch emulation is far from perfect. But it is indeed wild that there's so much optimizations already that for some games that's turn out to be the case. It's wild. 🤓 That's sounds promising for future preservation/replayability of Nintendo Switch games. I even thought that this dump could be used to create a non-official/clone "tradicional" TV-plugged game console that plays/emulate Nintendo Switch oficial cartridges... You don't need to dump if you can access your cartridges and play right there...
Is there a reason specific to Minecraft that emulation is somehow more optimal than stock? How would we know which other games this would apply to?
Minecraft isn't a very intensive game and my guess is that on the switch itself you run into memory bandwidth issues when playing natively. If you have a hacked switch and increase the memory clock it should run better than on emulator.
The best way to test a Switch cartridge for legitimacy will be to taste it
tastes like ina’s hair
Unless the person pirating uses a legitimate Switch cart. e.g. buy the cheapest game you can, erase it, then copy expensive/rare game to it.
@@gharrison4301 First you can't rewrite switch games the chips they come with aren't rewritable. Second if someone could do that they would still have to replace the sticker on it and that's where the bad taste actually comes from. Not the plastic.
@@gharrison4301damn I didn’t even think of that. Can someone just erase the files with the dumper and just replace them with something else? Thats wild.
Inb4 bootleg Chinese-made cartridges poison those that actually did so. What a wild concept. 😆
Dude pretty much said "we already angered the hornets, so we might as well kick the nest", and I friggin love it😂
One does not simply poke the bear, you hit it with a shovel and THEN you get to work on it.
And yet nothing happened...
In the USA, It is 100% legal to dump games so long as you don’t distribute or sell copies of the game,
Much like you can record or copy movies, Music and other media but can’t distribute it (DVR recordings, Music burning CDs ect)
it is legal yet yuzu lost the case
@@worstperson2ask it was a settlement meaning they figured it was cheaper then court case, plus their mistake was making money off of it. Also i can’t remember if they included ripped ISOs from 3ds with emulator
Yes, but breaking the DRM if it exists on any of those media is illegal. So for some media it’s essentially illegal.
@@worstperson2ask Yuzu did not lose anything. They did what small groups have no choice to do. Settle and run away. No one can afford the legal team needed to fight a company like nintendo. You literally cannot even attempt to fight without having the money up front because lawyers won't take a huge case like this for free.
Nintendo is not changing the law, they are using the cost of litigation to quash rights.
@@worstperson2ask Yuzu wasn't dumping or enabling dumping, they were emulating the hardware, huge difference.
RIP Taki. Nintendo just confirmed he accidentally slipped onto a katana 25 times. Very sed. 😢
Noooo... Rip 🙏 😞 bro...
idk who is that
@@iRaven-_- The one who made this video...😞
@@eliv.1033 omg are u serious? 😥
@@iRaven-_- according to DarkShrek000😞
Nintendo 100% does not care about the used market. My prediction is they are just going to tell people to buy the game new or digitally.
If a game gets dumped, returned and bought again on Amazon how are they going to deal with that?
@@santorfoYou can't typically return games which are used. But I could see valuable games being dumped and resold.
@@ngantnieryou absolutely can, you can return any opened games on Amazon with no real reason necessary.
I once got splatoon 3 from Amazon, played it for a few hours and just didn't like it, and returned for a full refund. Of course, I'm in Europe where EU consumer laws apply so things may be different in America and other places
@@santorfo Best case scenario: the certificate is banned. Worst case scenario: The Switch of whoever bought it is banned.
@@Majeedz93I don't believe you need a switch to dump it tho just connect to a PC or another handhed console
I didnt understand a word you said but you seem happy and I am happy for you
As for the emulator version of the Switch running faster than the offical Nintendo hardware spec it's important to remember that the Tegra SOC can, and does, run at a higher frequency when used in other devices. Nintendo likely lowered clocks for battery life and temperature, and maybe yields but the Tegra SOC was already old be the Switch launch so that might not have any impact. Still Great Job on the Video! :)
Yeah, I thought something similar to that must be going on when I heard that.
That bit about running better on an emulator on the device you're emulating was just Icing on top lol😂
i had metroid dread on my pc and it ran better than it did on the switch😭
@@user-br3oe1lc5yto be fair, a PC is drastically more powerful than a Switch. Pretty much every emulator game I’ve ever played ran better than it did on a console lol
Nintendo would ban this video just for THAT reason alone (although they'll never admit to it).
@@razrv3lcespecially mine 😂
@@razrv3lc ime, that's only been true for the switch. most emulators break the game pretty bad and are bad in their own ways
Being able to plug it into my PC and just play the game like a Sudo cart reader instead of having to dump the game and transfer the files over is something I never thought about but could totally see doing that. Thanks for covering that part!
Yea, some of the games are good. It is the hardware that is overpriced dogshit. If I did not already have an LED switch, I would grab one of these.
simple, to the point video. thanks for explaining this
Thanks taki, no one usually touches these topics, let alone the way you do. Good and bad aside I'm just happy to be informed x.x imagine if no one brought this up, and no one knew about these, except the scalpers.....
Edit: that's the most likes I ever got 😭 thanks guys~~~
For me, my dumps would solely be for my own backup vault, especially how they are treating digital downloads now of days. I just want to backup all my digital games that I purchased and play them without the fear of Nintendo taking my play rights away.
I'm kind of wodering how dlc will be treated.
@@Argonisgemathe same, look up Vita system…
@@Argonisgema I had to buy a game twice, because the physical copy would not allow the dlc to apply,
so I had to spend another 50 bucks for a digital copy.
@@Skelterbane69different region game?
Has never happened and will never happen lol
Nintendo will love this. "Oh, you got burned buying used games? Tough luck. Buy them full price from us or not at all."
If accounts start getting banned, it might actually actually Nintendo's loss l as people will stop paying for Nintendo online subscriptions and simply go offline more.
I don't think that they have any right to ban consoles because a game bought on a second hand market. They'll need to swallow this one, or swallow the lawsuits coming their way that they'll lose.
I think they will get sued by EU consumer watchdogs if they do this, and they will lose.
This cartridge dump isn't Nintendo's fault though. And Nintendo doesn't sell used games, retailers and other third parties do. It is, for example, Gamestops fault for selling a fake, not Nintendo's.
@@nathans8178 that won't fly in court if they start blocking second hand games on mass. Counterfeits sure, but legit games no.
Thanks for making me feel better about only buying brand new Switch Games.
Love the vid! Your explanation is clear.
"If I open he who shall not be named"😂😅😂 That made my Friday lol
Just wondering who was he who shall not be named?
@@rl8073 Watch the video and watch what he was running on the Switch, you will see...
@@rl8073a citrus fruit and plant in the family Rutaceae of East Asian origin
@@rl8073 Literally shows the name of the app when he opens it.
I won't name it, but I also won't blur the name shown on screen within seconds to stating I won't name it.
I can finally dump my own games without a hacked switch.
surely
Lol
Or more hilariously. You can play your physical switch games on PC, lol
This is significantly easier than doing this on a modded switch
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 RIP Yuzu
I use my switch on the dumper regularly
I appreciate the balanced opinion you deliver. Thanks for the info.
“It’s only gonna affect used games”
wait until they find out about resealing. the minimum wage retail employees you’re returning the “unopened” copy to probably can’t tell.
god help us all if a shady actor in the supply chain starts doing it…
Well good job giving potential shady actors “ideas”
@@peanutbutterdijonnaisesandwich I mean it’s not exactly an original or particularly clever idea. Someone else would have thought of it. At least as far as shady supply chain actors a very similar thing happened back in the 80s with arcade machines. They’d clone it with cheaper parts and not pay the company, then sell it to the next person for a profit, sometimes even at full price. So the whole cloning a game and selling it as new is not exactly unheard of and frankly shady supply chain actors can and have done far worse things.
Mark my words, we will start seeing heavily discounted "brand new" games for high profile releases online on amazon, ebay, and other sites only hours after the official release of these games. Even sooner if they can get their hands on a box pre-release, say through a game store connection.
This is scary now now you can get banned
You must be thinking that only idk 1k leople in live on the earth :0@@peanutbutterdijonnaisesandwich
Can we all admit that Nintendo wants you to not trust the 2nd hand market... so its actually a win for Nintendo not to deal with this appropriately and just give a middle finger to anyone who bought 2nd hand.
That’s a good point, I think Nintendo should still keep an eye for it. But I believe that no matter what they may go to an “ authenticity check” for all games so you’ll ALWAYS have to be connected to WiFi. Kind of like a key check/registration for windows on pc
but if they treat customers that way, I know I will stop buying anything from them and just pirate it all.
@xamindar and this why they are trying do hard to make their stuff unpiratable.
@@littlefreak3000good. Only makes every cause against them that much more legitimate, and every victory against their tyranny that much sweeter.
The difference being if you don't pass that check, Nintendo will outright ban either your cartridge or your console. Windows just gives you the watermark of shame. Your OS will even still update normally. You just can't change your desktop background. @@rjmendoza
Thanks for both the information and the warnings of the used gaming market
Just an excuse for Nintendo to stop selling physical copies, dear god I hope not
2/3 of my game library is game cards imported from JP/Asia because most Switch Games are already not available in a physical copy in the US.
Lol it's not going to stop them they will find ways around it.
@MrJuicymushrooms Don't give them ideas.
While all my games are digital/secondary because it's cheaper
Not really. Why? You’re coming to the wrong conclusion because the performance isn’t better on their digital files
Your story about Minecraft running better inside Yuzu NCE on the Switch which runs Linux rather than running the game native is the most insane part about this, actually.
I'd still love to get hands on one of these and if I was just to use double sided tape with my Steam Deck to use it with.
I didnt know cfw switch runs yuzu i thought its emu was just built in to the hack
@@BansheeNornPhenex Nah~ there's an extra version for ARM devices which executes directly on the SoC which is why Minecraft runs much better here.
I only play Switch emulated on my PC and pretty much everything runs better than the console... I had no idea that running something like Ryujinx or Yuzu on a hacked switch actually gives better performance than the native console. That's pretty embarrassing lol.
@@MegaManNeo thanks for the explanation, I was wondering why.
Does Minecraft/switch firmware not usually run directly on the SoC?
@@BlamingBuddha It does but NCE builds of emulators do just what the shortcut stands for, execute code natively on the SoC.
There is no need for the emulator to do anything here other to run the game since the hard- and software (games in this case) are optimised even for hacked Switch systems.
Fun fact, the PSP can emulate Nintendo 64 as good as it can (which is still flawed but impressive) because both systems share the same MIPS architecture.
Emulation is the future when digital games get taken away forcefully and physical discs and carts rot away. You're a legend :) Thanks for sharing all your information.
Emulation will always be part of the future for more reasons that just things being taken away. Even if a publisher wants to make something available, there may be nothing to play it on. This is where emulation comes in... the ability to run the code your game, project, product, or other functionally.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that open-source is the only way to ever play games. If there's no source code for the platform the game runs on (including hardware, firmware, OS, etc), the game may as well not exist. Because the original platform only lasts a short time, and the entire rest of history requires emulators to convert the game's original code into something modern hardware can run. A rom + emulator is the _only_ reliable, future-proofed way to play.
Carts don't really rot away though. People still have working Atari and Nintendo cartridges from the 1970s and 80s that still work to this day and technology for media storage has significantly approved so carts today will last even longer. I'd venture to say that your Switch cart is more likely to outlast the MIG cart.
@@Cyko..I have an Atari 2600 and a sizable library of cartridges, but they're not playable any more. Nobody makes compatible TVs any more, the joysticks were barely usable even when new, and even if it's still possible to play, it's incredibly impractical. An emulator, however, is free, convenient, and gives a better experience than the original.
@@ToyKeeper I have 87 Atari 2600 cartridges, most not in boxes any more. All still work to this day. But it is a lot easier to carry around a microSD than all these cartridges. 😅
First time in years has a Switch video got my interest. This is really fascinating
Very informative, Nintendo shouldn’t take this down as it was educational to avoid known problems in the market. Very well done video.
this just blows my mind. Thank you taki for always giving the full story and being as legit as possible. Much respect to you sir. Truly you are a real one!
wow, one of the best informative videos I saw in youtube. now I'm afraid to buy used games, I'm sure this will be a problem in Mexico. thanks for publishing this!
Oh, I want to get one of these just for Info dumping. I've never been able to before since I never had a switch I could mod. I'm always doing game deep dive stuff so itd be super nice to be able to do it myself since it's so hard to find stuff elsewhere (for legal reasons obviously)
What linux distro are you using on the switch, with the cool system data on the right?
it's crazy that no other TH-camr has pointed this out
A lot of those guys are caught in the hype and the excitement. That this development will make the "Switch 2" or whatever Nintendo's next product will be called a digital-only device with no SD card slot and no USB charging port hasn't occurred to them yet.
@@michelvanbriemen3459
ok toggaf
@@michelvanbriemen3459and then Nintendo is surprised why "Switch 2" isnt selling well there's got to be a middle ground here again this isnt the "first" time this has been done and Nintendo still exists to this day I mean they already did this as far back as NES just without the much needed sophistication
I’ve seen multiple videos and they all pointed this out,these video were over a month ago also.
@@lesslighter I actually really hope this happens. It's super unlikely that Switch 2 will be a flop, but it would be great. Maybe that would give Nintendo a hint that they can't just continue to produce garbage products if they want to keep their customers.
We may even see new handheld ‘case’ which can fit or have the mig card dumper / reader embedded in the case, essentially allowing the non switch handheld to play switch games just by using the card reader without dumping / cloning it into sd card
wow that crazy chinese clone of nintendo switch on ali express or wish.
Still would require keys and such if it was done legitimately
Honestly this is amazing you can actually emulate games you own legally with this.
bro hasnt uploaded in 4 weeks they actually got him
Honestly, it's a bittersweet situation, but now people have to worry about getting banned because someone copied the game. You ask me, the game cards having. a unique identification code is kind of dumb. I get why they did it, but now it's just a headache for us gamers.
Just ban the first owner of the ID that duplicated.
@@TerranigmaQuintet What if OG owner sold that game years ago, someone picks it up on second hand and dumps it, now original owner gets screwed and had no part in it.
@@TerranigmaQuintet Who says the first owner is the one who dumped it?
But isnt everything fine if they never go online tho?
It's not a headache for me. I don't steal things?
the beginning of this video has to be the best hook to a video I have ever seen
New to your channel. Was an amazing video, you have earned my like and subscribe, I look forward to going through your video library!!
Moral of the story: don't buy used Switch games. Pirate them and emulate them.
Are the games intentionally slowed so we'll play longer? :/
@@GangnamStyle33 Nah, the Switch is just underclocked to have the battery last longer and make sure it's completely stable.
Doesn't help if you want to play online at all. now I have to go pay the full brand new price since nintendo doesnt mark down years old games like BOTW and MK8DX. Makes sense for any game you dont care about online for though.
@@matt92hun👍
Nintendo's the most pathetic company in existence and that says a lot because Apple is right there too
I think Nintendo might be in some legal trouble if they start banning people for using cartridges that where bought legally from the used market. Unless they can differentiate between a game running on the mig switch and one running from a legit cartridge I don’t think there is much they can do legally. That doesn’t mean they won’t try but I don’t think it would be legal for them to do so. Hopefully they get hit with a class action lawsuit if they do start banning people for using legitimately purchased used games
I wouldn't be surprised I've heard that the us government sued apple because of its business practices and I hope that happens to companies like Nintendo and Disney
Nintendo has been pretty insulated from class actions so far, because all switch owners must agree to arbitration before using the hardware.
It's why they were never successfully sued for the ongoing JoyCon debacle.
They wouldn’t. They did the same thing for 3ds (ban if they detect two parallel IDs) and nobody did anything
@nathanmiller1456 In many countries that caveat is meaningless. Many countries have introduced legislation to protect citizens from this kind restrictions of their rights.
Legally its not their responsibility to ensure you were not ripped off from a third party.
That is not a legitimately purchased game, its not a real product.
If you made that legal, then mass producing and selling stolen titles would be legal.
How does that make any sense? Should it be their fault you bought a stolen game aftermarket from some guy with no previous sales?
We went a full circle now, from 3ds cartridges that can't be fake to Switch cartridges can can be mass reproduced
Well there was no need with 3ds considering how easy it is to hack as for the switch maybe once switch 2 is released hacker might be willing to release exploits
@@mobious01 I wish I got on the 3ds hacking train back in the day.
@@BlamingBuddha you can still get on there, the community is more alive now than it used to be and you can jailbreak a 3ds in 5-10 minutes
This is one dope informative video man, love the explanations bro, you gained a new follower! We Learn sum new everyday! Today this was it. Were very similar, games I really want, I buy right away others that not so much I buy 2nd hand. All authentic! But now I’ll keep an eye out for the fakes.
i wish there was a product like this so that i can take eshop games and put them on a physical cart, even if it was basically just a shell for an sd card
specifically thinking of kart and the dlc tracks
would like to preserve and play those long after eshop is inevitably shut down
That's basically what these products do. You purchase the game and install it on an SD card, then insert that into the cartridge, and it should theoretically be playable.
@@tomd96 while technically what i describe is similar, it is not the same
mig is for physical cartridges, i want to do eshop games
How does the dumper handle updates for games? If we use it to dump games will we be limited to whatever version camenon the cart when it was released?
on 8:12 the 20022A is a DC/DC converter (likely for the usb5v to the controller 3.3v)...
the GL823K is an USB 2.0 SD/MSPRO Card Reader Controller. this says to your pc/device: i am a cardreader...
Wow. That's impressive. Gained a new follower for science reasons.
What was the dual touch pad controller thing? That was interesting too.
Dual touch pad control? You mean the Steam deck?
@mastergp4life Oh! I've never seen on so I didn't know.
Not even returned games are safe now. Scammers will buy games, dump the files and return then to the store
Stop repeating this shit, whoever used the game with the sole purpose of dumping it will obviously never go online cause he would get banned instantly.
They... could always have done that with original Switch consoles?
Not long ago you couldn't buy and return CD / DVD based games if they were open. Not sure how this is any different.
@@b4n4n0 Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
@@b4n4n0 Do you realized that a user with a stock Switch with that returned cartridge can be banned too without knowing that his cartridge has been cloned beforehand and used online? Because Nintendo cannot know which user has the legit cartridge.
Well I'm gonna buy it the Mig Switch Flashcard thank you Mister Taki my dude
Holy cow, man!!! this is wild!!
Never even thought about this thanks for the money making tip
Great job Taki. Was told that there is a PC companion app that should be coming out soon to work with this. How true? Idk but it makes sense. Also I noticed the MIG switch flashcart performed slower than the standard switch cart when in OFW. This may be used by Nintendo to determine who is running an official game vs a MIG switch. Tested on multiple consoles with the same result. Smh
Oh wow, you can run the games through the MIG switch flashcard on official firmware?
And performed slower as in, the games performed worse?
I've been wanting to play totk on my pc ever since release but never had a modded switch and now I finally can 😄
Totk was dumped over a week before release you could have done it even before it was released
@@andreamitchell4758 common sense isn't so common
@@andreamitchell4758 some would rather dump their games in a convenient way that doesn't have any extra baggage.
This just makes it easier for me to do emulation. I have no problem with keeping games id buy for it.
Very well done video. I think the only option Nintendo will have is to make people register games. If you want to sell the game, you will have to unregister it from your account. They will have to be upfront with this, and then if duplicate certs are detected then both and subsequent identical certs will be shutdown. A process of registration could open that game back up to you if you can prove you own the cartridge.
Nice. I wanted to play my son's games without actually using the switch.
I know i could just download them but this way seems cleaner to me.
After playing a few Switch games that run below 30fps while my cheap mini PC can run the Steam version at 60fps, I am considering playing my Switch games on PC. I am very glad that this product exists.
What Switch games are on Steam?
@@Cyko.. They're referring to 3rd party games
but will your switch games run on a cheaper pc with 60 fps tho?
@@Polengueyeah. Like, 99% of of the time.
@@taylon5200 guess my pc is at 1% then 😕
What was the yellow cable you used to plug the dumper into the steamdeck? It looked proper solid
Curious about dumping my digital indie games off console?
So there's no software files it's all built into the dumper? It reads switch cartridges and just dumps all the files?
I want my 100 game library over onto my oled deck / legion go.
Many EE students are able to make an Arm single board computer running linux, like raspberry pi. with this tool, now it is possible to homebrew a new switch-compitable handheld that runs most of the switch games.
Pretty sure that's called the Steam Deck.
Yes
@@Cobalt985that’s not what he’s saying you can use original switch hardware in a new raspberry pie device
I guess one downside is I don't think you could dump updates or dlc this way. But it'd be nice to have a solution for that without modding my switch, I just want to play some of my single player games emulated with some of the benefits that come with that, but it seems like that's going to still require modding my console.
What type of cord is connected to the mig switch dumper board? Also I'm seeing you have it connected to the steam deck. So can I get this dumper and grab the switch game files from my games and stick them In emudeck under switch appropriate locations?
while i buy the games, because i like to support the game devs etc.. i do like what this device does, because when you're playing a game, an decide to switch to a new game it becomes tedious having to keep sitching cartridges out, because the are a bit fiddly or tight to removed, although you can get a cart dongle which supports 4 games, you just press the dongle button to move to another game choice on the main menu.. but if you're out an about, and dont want to take several cards, in fear of losing/misplacing, this device is useful for just that..
Taki should be called Ninja Warrior after the recent videos 🤣
Another variable to put out there. Key generators creating randomized game ID files (the file that is being referenced). Now IDK how these files are validated or if modifying it messes with a hash, but I can see That becoming an issue as that would mean that even a Sealed / New game would be at risk. This would probably force NOA to change how they copyright carts though, so maybe it's a good thing? Who knows.
The other thing that came to mind is that (save my first example) people would now need to 'taste test' for the bitterant that's added to the carts (for safety by NOA) to see if it's legit.
i doubt that Nintendo was dumb enough to use outdated cryptography methods
@@DensenBro agreed
Then you have people like me who prefer to play via emulation on a desktop rather than via a handheld/ Janky Nintendo controller (unless I do the HE-mod for the sticks). My rule is I only emulate what I have a hard copy of. This does add some spice to the mix on the counterfeit/flipper market. Part of me wants to pick one up just for personal use (also takes one set out of the mix from being in the wild).
I'm a huge buyer of used games. This concerns me going forward. Thank you for the video.
Thank god, I have like 20+ loose Game Cards just jostling around my official Switch case because I believe in physical game preservation. Hopefully this could help with the middle-ground to legally backup my games so I can keep them at home.
Your game cards aren’t going to go faulty anytime soon. Many people have old Atari and Nintendo cartridges that still work to this day and technology has vastly improved since then.
@@Cyko..i like your optimism!
3DS games are on cards, yet there is a bad president pushed by Nintendo that causes these games to die if they are not used.
This was a fairly big deal about 6 weeks ago. Then there were lower quality prints of the late console releases like "Persona Q" which somehow die faster than average. While DS games are written to a good memory type, 3DS AND Switch games are going to die sooner than NES carts because Nintendo went with a cheaper memory storage format.
I'm sure this isn't the best explanation of the problem, but look up dying 3DS games.
Of my personal collection of 81 physical 3DS games, three are dead currently. Two are games that I never played and are more than 5 years old bought on clearance after the switch came out and replaced the 3DS (Rip Yokai Watch 2: FS & Ever Oasis). The other one that died was an older game that I didn't care for that much, and only played it through it for 90 hours and then put it on the shelf and never touched it again (Bravely Default). Thankfully my copy of Persona Q still works... For now.
I know someone who used to do this with PSP games back in the day
@@Mac_Omegaly switch games will go bad if not used?? Do they have a battery in them? I thought the saves were stored on the console these days.
@@Mac_OmegalyI couldn't imagine "not caring for a game" but playing it "only" for 90 hours lol.
That's a crazy combo of words there.
Taki I am terrified because I buy used too and want them from the Japanese market. This is not always for the expected reason but aside from Nintendo, Capcom and EnixSquare most others don't have Japanese text options unless it is from Japan.
This goes for Atlus, Idea Factory, Tecmo, Falcom and a number of others.
@Taki Udon Thanks for this information. New to any and all gaming. Newly purchased an oled with quite a few 2nd hand games without knowing anything about this. What can someone do if a game turns up this and issues arrize with Nintendo?
(Even bought the system 2nd hand but supposedly New.)
k so 3 questions i have
#1 can you get switch games that are digital copies onto the cartridge with an unhacked model of the Oled switch
#2 How can you get update files? or maybe that was covered and i just didn't catch it
#3 and finally i don't have to do any soldering to this switch, right? because i still have warranty for about a year
Edit: more on topic, what I take from this video, is that emulating your games is now preferable to playing them on Nintendo hardware, not only because they'll run better but you also won't get banned by Nintendo just for losing the used game lottery.
If it was possible, I'd give a second thumbs up for actually demo-ing this on a Switch. Nice.
Switch games have run better on PCs for a while now. And recently, other handhelds have been able to run Switch games better than official hardware.
The Switch is so cracked at this point that I'm honestly surprised Nintendo didn't release Switch 2 years ago, just to update the security.
You can also play them on your phone with decent performance (botw at 15fps which certainly isnt great but anything lighter runs perfectly fine). And its only getting better hardware and software wise. While your switch is stagnating.
@@nathanmiller1456is the jailbreak available for all versions now I have a slightly older one and the OLED the older one has all my good data and it's so annoying that Nintendo won't let save data be transfered to storage or PC when not every game supports their stupid cloud save the only way to move save data.
i mean, not really? if you can emulate a switch game then the only point of using a switch is to play online, which is a thing emulators can't do *at all*
@@aprilnya Why are you saying emulators can't play online _at_ _all_ ?
When I used Yuzu a long while back it supported online play, I believe it needed you to provide your Switch's certificate or something like that. There was a warning that they were not responsible if you get banned.
I never actually tried that, maybe the feature wasn't even implemented, not sure.
yeah someone else already said this but as long as this doesnt mess with their regular customer base too much (i.e. regular switch owners who think they've bought a normal game) nintendo will basically not care. They'll say "you should've bought an official sealed copy of the game."
Disagree. Nintendo has a long history of being bullies against ANYONE who goes against their TOS. They do care and will be super aggressive in how they respond. Nintendo has pursued legal actions against people (not just companies) who torrented 30+ year old games. These are games that have not been sold for decades and have no lost revenue since Nintendo will not sell you the product for any amount of money. “We own it and you shouldn’t have it if you can’t buy it from us so be damned if you try.” ~Nintendo.
@@MrYodaBomb You're misunderstanding my stance a little bit. What I'm getting at is that Nintendo doesn't really pay much attention to what happens with their products once they hit the secondary market. So, if you buy a used Switch game and it turns out its unique credentials have been compromised, don't expect Nintendo to step in and sort it out. Because Japanese companies are super boomerish you're not seen as a direct customer. Why? Because your purchase didn't put money in their pocket directly. So any problems that come with buying second-hand, in their view, aren't really their problem since the transaction didn't happen directly through them.
What I'm NOT saying is that Nintendo would not take legal action against the creators of the MIG Switch. They very well could.
My main point is about the support-or lack thereof-for customers buying second-hand. Unless issues with second-hand Switch game files become a widespread problem that garners significant public attention, like the Joycon drift situation did, Nintendo likely won't go out of their way to help those affected.
@@jimonaldo3108people could buy new games, save them, then return them to the store and still sell them as new. This is where Nintendo should worry
@@Visethelegend I don't disagree about the possibility of that but I find it unlikely that would happen on a huge enough scale to it to affect a lot of customers.
I agree, this is the most likely scenario imo. Just Nintendo being the Apple of gaming with the worst customer service imaginable. lol
Soon as I click to watch this, BOOM, a Nintendo Switch ad. 😂
As somebody who worked in a Target/Walmart if we get games returned we just send them back or recycle them. They don't go back on the shelf if they've been opened. I can see a bunch of people buying a brand new game dumping it and then returning it then it gets recycled or return to Nintendo.
The emulated game running better on the PC OS switch is very interesting. Did you test any other games to see if you got the same results?
Just imagine if Nintendo offered a deluxe subscription service featuring an official, fully-supported emulator alongside a product like this. I'd be a subscriber for life, hands down.
Is there any way to play the classic pokemon games on switch just using a cartridge? can you copy the rom file to a cartridge with this MIG and just play it?
I bought my gf a Switch a couple of xmas's ago amd she plays here and there. We're old school and prefer physical cartridges for games but it would be nice to be able to "dump" a few games onto a single sd card inside of a cartridge. So when we travel, we can bring just the essentials. Is that possible with this or no?
So if i wanted to dump my switch games collection to play on a different handheld like odin 2 would this be the easiest way to achieve that?
Yes
Was wondering this as well, only question i have is if that other switch could still go online but he did not specify if this only works with a modded switch?
no firmware, no keys, no save files though
Now let’s watch sealed prices skyrocket due to people being afraid of the cloned games
Game cases, sealers and artworks are very affordable to clone as well.
Bro most normal customers of switch games are not doing this lol
@@Don.LamaackI might have a business idea, lol
Oh sweet summer child. I literally purchased a 'sealed' copy of Splatoon 2 (few weeks after release) from Amazon (as a vendor in&to) Germany and it was sealed, but w/o a faint watermark and in another type of foil as my room was dimly lit. Being in a hurry; missed no cartridge rattling was present. I only noticed after starting to unwrap that there wasn't any game inside (nothing in its stead too). At least Amazon customer service sent me an actual authentic version free of charge just days later after minutes conversing with their customer service.
For the doubters: consider that Amazon actually accepts sealed returns with a high level of trust. It's totally possible some automation didn't spot that missing cartridge rattle or weight and put it back on shelve.
@@Don.Lamaack Yeah. Reseals also have been a problem with retro games
still no idea what that red box does but it made me hyped anyway
Would it be possible on a non-modded switch to play a mig-switch cartridge with a from of something like pokemon emerald uploaded to it??
"Most of the games that I have are things that I know would cause ninjas to kick in my windows, so I'm going to go with Minecraft."
SHOTS. FIRED.
How does it run better under emulation vs native? What is happening there technological to make that happen?
The CPU is gimped in the stock system. It's running at full speed in that clip.
@@TakiUdon It's running on linux or something? Or is there a way to unlock full cpu performance on native switch os (hacked obvs)?
@@TakiUdon which OS and I assume it is only for easier to run games
I can't see it running BOTW or TOTK or witched 3 etc, better under linux emulation
What would happen if you copied all the game data to a standard sd card and just inserted that into an unmodified switch. Would it even be seeable let alone playable? Weird question but I'm curious lol. Great video mate as always
The cartridge version of minecraft on switch actually only avalible as the older console edition and later on in the video at around 6:20 you can see that the version he is playing bedrock edition (download exclusive) so it makes sense that there are performance issues as bedrock edition is newer and more frequently updated and microsoft doesnt really think about the switch players performance
Bro has steam on his switch XD
Everyone: watching how the dumper works intently
Me: fascinated by the Gamesir controller
I buy everything digitally anyway but that is good to know going forward.
I just hope they make security more of a priority in how they make switch 2 physical games
Oh wow, what desktop environment are you running on that Switch? I looove its UI, would love to have it on my own devices.
That is the GNOME desktop environment for Linux, with the dash to panel extension installed I believe
Imagine it gets to a point where the easiest way to see if your game is legit or counterfeit is by licking the bottom of it to see if it’s bitter like official carts💀💀💀
We're not talking about physical counterfeits here though. We're talking about cloning genuine games and then passing them off to someone else who doesn't know they've been cloned. In this case the cartridge is always genuine, it's all the digital clones that've been generated that aren't.
Another TH-camr lick the migswitch and it had the bitter coating too 😂
@@opyzyes, but it has a different bitter coating, many owners have confirmed that it tastes different
@@turbochargedfilms I'm personally so sensitive to bitter taste, that it totally spoils eating certain food (e.g. grapefruit) for me. I doubt I could taste a difference unless in intensity.
@@qactustick what? the video talked about both things
The fact that that which shall not be named got taken down but this product hasn't is crazy
Yuzu is open source and can't be taken down or devolpment shut down. It's a hydra, Nintendo cuts off head and 6 more apear.
If you dump the game, do you have to play it on an emulator after that?
Or are you saying with enough know-how, you can build your own cart with it (after ordering parts) and play it natively on your switch?
OR can you just dump it onto an sd card and play it natively on switch like that?
As far as the banning issue - that is just pure speculation at this point. We don't know if simply having two people online with the same certificate immediately triggers a ban. Maybe it could be like 10+ people sharing it is what triggers it, as would be the case if only one copy of the game was pirated and shared online with everyone else. I think people should not panic until we actually start seeing reports of this happening.
Like it would be very easy to see dozens of devices sharing one certificate and then Nintendo realizing it's pirated so that certificate can be blacklisted. But sharing a cartridge with 1-2 friends is a completely legitimate thing and they wouldn't be issuing a ban for that.
As far as the device being cheaply cloned to produce counterfeit cartridges, that remains to be seen as well. It's not just putting the chips on a board that makes the device work. You'd have to somehow extract their keys from the FPGA and it isn't really apparent how you can do that.
I just commented this same thing, I need to see a live demo of it happening.... I mean the concern seems to be legit but I want proof of it happening
If you're sharing a cart with friends, only one instance of that cert is online at any particular time because it's not physically in multiple switch devices at the same time. If there's two devices online at the same time with the same certificate from a single physical cart, one of them is a copy. Them having a policy of not banning until they see some number like 10 copies of a cert online at the same time would be implicitly supporting piracy, and we know they're not going to do that. We will have to see how they act when this happens, but given their aggressively litigious history with people without enough money to defend themselves in court, it isn't going to be a system mesaage saying "gosh that's naughty, can you please not do that."
@@SkateSoupDoes these bans only effect games that have online components? What if I do not play any of those, but only play single player offline games on my switch?
@JosephHarry nobody knows at this point but it may be possible to pull info including the inserted card certificate to their servers if your switch itself is online regardless of whether the game has online features. That's a total guess based on general knowledge of backend IT architecture, no idea how their environment is set up, we have to see when whatever they're going to do about it happens.
Say you were someone who dumps games and returns them. If you exclusively play your game dumps with your switch in airplane mode, then the risk of bans (for you AND whoever bought your secondhand cart) is zero. @@JosephHarry
That’s cool but HOW DID YOU GET LINUX RUNNING ON THE SWITCH??? Thats super cool!
i’m just hoping it was running off of the system storage instead of how android ran entirely on the sd card years ago
Search for Switchroot and you'll find the wiki for both linux and android for the switch.
Stealing this comment from another video, but "We live in a society, where everyone tries to install Linux on everything. Once we've reached this goal, we will transcend as a species."
@@tri4cekid536if it runs doom it will run linux
oh look i scrolled, i wasn't the first to notice the Switch Linux
I think Nintendo is most likely coming up with something to verify the certificate of the game. Could be Game Stop will get something from Nintendo to insert the game to verify if it was cloned with a Mig Switch and if they find out will disqualify the resell and tell the seller they are taking control of the cloned game so it can't be sold.
Listening to the acquired podcast. Nintendo has been at this point before with the NES. Which they then made the nintendo certification basically a match between official licensing product and the device being used. It only opens more lee way for Nintendo to stop having external manufacturers and bring all game manufacturers to buy packages from them. Or pcb components that they only have available.
Interesting to see what their solution will be for this. As moving fully digital will not make their user base happy