Another Modular Laptop??? - GPD Pocket 3
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The GPD series of "laptops" has been a regular item on Linus Tech Tips but the Pocket 3 is here on ShortCircuit and it might blow your mind!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Unboxing
1:17 - I/O Overview
1:30 - Modules highlights
3:57 - Specs
4:39 - Sponsor - Govee
5:11 - Detailed look of the Pocket 3
8:25 - Pocket 2 vs Pocket 3
9:09 - Pocket 3 usability
10:28 - Display overview
11:30 - Webcam test
12:00 - Pricing
12:30 - Gaming performance
13:24 - Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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As a field based network engineer this is awesome. Being a portable kvm and serial for the old time you encounter an ancient switch I think someone will be making a new equipment expenses request
I'm a field tech too - definitely considering this
How I could have used every day for the 17 years I ran a data center!!!
Ultimate portable crash cart.
KVM would be more usefull if it was vga in most cases (most modern server still have vga), but the serial port AND network is something that could lead to a new "emergency" device in case of a not responding switch etc.
@@siedenburg1 vga to HDMI is very available.
This is a datacenter tech's wet dream.
As a datacenter tech, will confirm. Sending the link to this video to my boss :)
@@cxdeblue6055
Business Justification: I want it.
YES. Since the Surface Neo failed to launch. This looks like the next best thing.
Seems like it could be a good fit for broadcasting too.
@@cxdeblue6055 Make sure you let your boss also know how shoddy GPD are with customer support. I have the previous version with a serial port as I thought it would be great in the datacenter and it was for 4 months, then the battery died and it is now a paper weight. I have been trying to get a replacement battery for over 2 years now but GPD customer support just ignore the emails.
Also make sure you tell him about the data breach over Win3 customers with faulty units.
Coming from someone who works at a datacenter, I can see this being extremely useful. Having a kvm or a serial port so you can quickly connect to a server who just doesn’t want to work on power up or to console into a switch to do quick troubleshoots or programming. I can see this being a absolute godsend. What would make it better is maybe if it was a little bit bigger but that’s a personal preference and also to have 2 modular ports as opposed to just one. But I understand there is only so much you can fit in a small package.
The kvm functionality isn't that mind blowing. Just use a crash cart, which every data center I've been in has.
@@mattbrown292 yes you are right, could get a crash cart but then you have to go and ask the datacenter and they have to go get one for you. Sometimes you would have to wait if they are particularly busy.
@@mattbrown292 if you're in industrial tech where you actually might have to get on a running robot cart or a crawlspace you don't always have the luxury of a cart and having a small pc with serial, ethernet and kvm capabilities that fits in a cargo pocket or a zippable hoodie would be pretty awesome.
I remember when the AMD FX 9590 hit 5GHz and everyone was astounded at how many watts it took. Now, only ~8 years later, we've got a pocket-sized laptop that can turbo to 5GHz and use less than 1/10th as many watts.
I doubt it can hit 5ghz more than for a few seconds
i don't think it's sipping that little power to punch at 5ghz for a brief turbo
lol i have a 9590 on my desk right now. i call it "hot box"
According to intel we should have 10ghz for 5 years now.
"They made it Linus resistant!"
face it, Linus will still find a way to drop it.
Yeap...That first linux challenge video is an EASY example of that. Pop os WARNED him. " you are about to remove essential packages". Linus has BEEN an adult for over 13 years now and has no excuse there. .... ESSENTIAL...it's not fucking rocket science, ( Linus )
Linus Resistant...nothing is Linus Proof
I was expecting him to smack himself on the face when I saw that
@@motoryzen Arch?
Linus resistant,
Not Linus proof
As soon as you said they were hdmi and usb input, jaw on floor. The amout of utility that would afford me at work is nuts. Currently have an 8 inch display and driver from eBay and a mini keyboard/trackpad jammed in a 3d printed case, which is essentially this but I have to carry my laptop around too and need a spot to power the display or run an external battery bank. I need this in my life
There are similar products out there that's just screen+keyboard+battery, some with touch. They're significantly cheaper, I think last I saw was around 400€, but the additional utility of it having an actual GP CPU with a decent screen could be well worth the difference.
Wtf do you do?
@@PsycosisIncarnated Aynthing IT service related would quality, really. AT least P2P
@@watcheths Could you share some search terms or something? I’m mostly interested in the KVM-functionality of this thing, but if I can just buy a “dumb” version of this with just a screen+keyboard+battery without losing the portability, that would be my preference.
@@timtim2949 Sadly not really, I found them on Amazon or Ali Express while lookig for a monitor that was easier to bring with me to a LAN party. I remember that I thought it would be awesome for (or at this point instead-of) a crash cart, but I also remember that the descriptions were atrocious.
As an IT Consultant and network/systems engineer... this thing is EXACTLY what I’ve been waiting for GPD to release. I’ve been tempted by their mini laptops before, but I think it’s time to pull the trigger. This one seems to fix all the annoyances and has just the right feature set.
You and me both. IT consultant here.
This could definitely be useful for me, I work in networks on commercial planes and carrying around a full-size laptop to multiple planes a night along with the components needed to fix them gets a bit overwhelming after a while
If my dad could use personal laptops for work, this would be at the top of his christmas list. Having a serial port for HAM Radio is the reason he's still using an old Thinkpad, but having a KVM built into your netbook is a killer idea for IT or equipment installers
Might be worth a business case and just have it imaged with the company's Windows image!
linus months ago: idk if i even should review these anymore because of the investment
linus now: * vibrantly excited about other laptops doing a great job *
I'm glad
The way you know a laptop isn't interesting now is whether or not Linus is in the video :P
JK, the laptop could have Linus and still not be interesting (unlike this one) :P JK
@@CreativityNull sorry i didnt quite understand, were you jk?
@@orlagh277 lol
I did that because there's always going to be someone who takes it seriously, especially since text isn't a great medium for anything indirect.
TBH I don't even see this thing competing with a laptop, this thing is a tool
@@BrodeyH NO U!
JK. Yeah, but as a desktop user and IT guy, I really only view laptops as tools or entertainment devices, not as workstations. This would be something I would lie down and watch videos on or plug into a network switch to diagnose problems or make changes. I have a laptop that also only serves those purposes.
This gpd looks like the perfect fully featured kind of device that i'm surprised hasn't existed before. Espetially the hdmi in has always been something i've wondered how there hasn't been more devices with that option but understandably it's sort of a niche application, but extremely useful when you need a quick screen on the go to do stuff. It also gives the device more long term usability if somehow the hardware becomes too old/weak (unlikely) but you still want to have it around.
Its not a niche application. There is a big demand for stuff like that in data centers and other admin/maintance jobs , however they ware killed of years ago by film/record producers. Do you remember the capture cards and imputs computers from the early 2000s had ? People used them to record tv shows and that forced the intelectial properly loby to step in. This is why getting a computer with inputs ,rother then outputs is difficult. You are opening yourself for lawsauit by the record/producers for the "possablity of missuse". As you can see the KVM function doesnt block the onboard computer , the video output is shown on a program , just like "Crash cards" so technically you can use it for such stuff.
For the first time since people started talking about the original Win/Pocket/etc. I'm sold on this concept. But I can't throw $1000 at it :/
Are there any vids talking about mobile live broadcasting? This seems the perfect tool, almost too good to be true (just lacks a SIM slot) but ideally someone would contrast using a microPC to the likes of a Yolobox, while on-the-go.
that's the enteral struggle
This is certainly the best one. Very interesting
When I saw the thumbnail: "Yay! The device of my 2004 dreams" 🤣
500 and i buy it. The entry level one is €667
The fact that not all laptops have Display IN had annoyed me for years
or no usb input...
@@mrcrackerist every single usb device is bidirectional, wym no usb input?
@@alexandrutereify you can't connect two computers over usb.
@@mrcrackerist you cant do that with this either, its just a keyboard passthrough. And you actually can connect two computers over USB, one as a slave and one as master via the OTG USB protocol.
As an engine tuner, i have had to use a serial port to connect to certain older equipment (I.e. Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2), recently,had to buy a usb to serial (keyspan) adapter
On work we used usb to serial adapters because on our company laptops the serial port was right next to the charger and inserting the carging cable blind often led to frying the serial port with 20V and thus destroying the serial port.
The adapter cables are actually nice and cheap
After seeing Scotty on MCM folded into tiny cars, and jamming a laptop in with him? Probably also a hell of a lot easier to use inside of a car!
This'll take the 'Honda Civic with a laptop' meme to a whole new level.
@@MrFastFox666 Ironically i tune mostly E36 BMW's (usually for SCCA ITR class) on a Mustang-150-AWD Dyno (which is what i needed the serial Adapter for), the Thumbnail is my personal Autocross car.......
Definitely, I was thinking about how useful this would be for tuners.
This is the Steam Deck equivalent to the production minded. It's amazingly jam packed with useful and uncommon stuff.
This would be awesome for the on site portion of my job. I do managed LAN for a state gov. We have thousands of Cisco switches across the state. Having that serial port, along with that small form factor, would be bad ass.
if you get usb Kvm and hdmi-input in framework pc, its going to be a massive success
literally one of the features i am hoping they end up adding.
Especially after I saw this. This is such a killer feature!
@John Smith kvm could be a game changer!
@John Smith with capture cards you're at the mercy of drivers and software being available and working; this is an actual kvm switch, so completely software independent.
@John Smith anything video is notorious for having driver issues even on supported OSs. that it just works has to do with your specific configuration - your system probably uses windows and the incoming signal is likely standard hdmi from source, right? I've had issues capturing converted signals (vga etc) and weird manufacturer specific hdmi that displays fine on a monitor but my capture card couldn't decipher it correctly.
@John Smith so, standard PC hdmi. thank you for describing your setup!
OMG, This gonna be useful for me in a lot of ways. I will defiantly consider buying one. Thanks Linus
Can you tell for what? I'm legit interested what the use case is for this thing
@@dutmala Who are you planning on defying by considering it?
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@@dutmala Scientists would love this. To be able to carry a computer with serial around to all your equipment is perfect. Puts all your data in the one place and means you don't need bulky desktops where you may not have space or budget for multiple computers. In the field as a scientist you often need a tablet style device for data recording but also to annotate the notes. Also in server farms this would be a good portable interface for config etc, especially in systems that don't have existing interfaces
probably for using cash drawer
This has huge potential in the tinkerer space, the Serial port and the KVM functionality make it the perfect for Arduino, ESP32 and Pi's.
This a great portable PC love the internals on the work they did to this gpd 3 version. Very awesome and great for travel.
As a network admin... THAT SERIAL PORT
AND you can swap it for a mobile KVM if you need to.
This... how has nobody done this before?!
Don't get to excited I had the previous version with a serial port and it was great for about 4 months and then the battery packed in and I have been waiting now for a number of years for GPD to send me a replacement. As soon as you get any problems with these devices GPD don't want to know.
@@marksaunders3055 oh I'm not buying this thing, I'm just happy to see Serial on a computer since Serial is very useful to a network admin.
honestly, with those specs and the feature set, I was guessing it would be around $2,000, not bad imo
Yeah same
@Poeta Del requinto sup
Same
How much is it then?
@@justniccy2402 around 1300 dollars with module and stylus(perhaps with shipping too?)
That little whooosh sound effect as Linus opened the back panel was a really cute touch
Sounds like this would make a lot of sense for routine travellers and IT pro's who support multiple sites. Also with that powerful CPU it makes sense as a base machine that you might dock up with a separate keyboard/mouse/screen (and possibly external GPU) when at home while giving you a pretty nice portable experience when on the go. For most people, I can see a 15", 17", or 19" version making more sense, but when space and CPU horsepower is at a premium this thing looks like it could have found a nice little niche.
The one being compared to is the Pocket 1, not the Pocket 2.
Pocket 2 had a IR tracker and weird mousebuttons above the keyboard.
(But was still worthless to use...)
Came here for this. Looking at my Pocket 2 on the desk thinking wtf.
I have used my Pocket 2 lots and have found it very handy. But I also backed the Pocket 3 when it became available. 😁
You're right
yeah definitely not the pocket 2 being compared, I have one of those (partly based on linus's review of it) its completely brilliant in almost every way, apart from not having a video out, the 3 having not only a full hdmi out but also IN is crazy, still its starting to be too big to go in ones pocket
"look modular parts!"
"Oh, is Framework making it?"
"nope"
That conversation right there is why Framework making a modular laptop was so important. A literal game changer.
Nobody remembers PC Cards....
@@larsradtke4097 I used to play runescape on a laptop with a large expansion card to give it wifi. The expansion slot idea hasnt been "expanded" on enough to become adopted by a majority.
Actually people thinking framework invented this space is ridiculous. They are just an us company, and that’s their bonus.
@@larsradtke4097 i for one do! our first laptop didnt have wifi so we got a wifi expresscard
@@SimonBauer7 I still have two laptops here for office from 2008, that have USB 3.0 express cards.... VGA card, FireWire, serial.....
One of the funniest reviews but very very good. Keep it up dude! Love it!
I've been keeping an eye on tiny laptops. This is amazing. I just wish there was more demand + competition in this space, only GPD seems to make anything worth talking about.
If you just need a serial port, GPD has a product called the "Micro PC" that is cheaper and has Serial
@@gnarf. Weird. My Micro PC doesn't have these problems.
Definitely worth its money. The keyboard has a learning curve (especially when you're trying to use a non-english layout) though.
@@gnarf. GPD's track record with quality control is pretty bad unfortunately. It wouldn't be so bad if their customer service wasn't so god awful
Or just buy an old laptop for peanuts.
I think also made a video about it, I don't remember if here or in LTT, but thanks to bring it to the table because probably not much people knew it, I think the GPD MicroPC didn't have a video input, maybe they take a note for the next version
@@thenoddingturtle Issues with batteries affect all users who did the kickstarter. For a long time I was a nay sayer, because my battery was perfect but 1 day it just randomly didn't work. When I asked for a free replacement GPD told me in no uncertain terms f off. Even though they admit all first gen Micro's have a battery fault.
This has quite a few niches, some the old GPD pocket already was good enough, but this has a few more on top of it. Not fair to compare it to entry level gaming laptops in value because it's a different niche, but i'd take this over any of the similarly specced ultrabooks that are often as expensive or even more so.
Simply for a convertible with a stylus and good performance that still has usable keyboard functionality where you usually go with a iPad pro or surface I would take this any time actually if I would have that money
Right now I have their MicroPC for a couple of years, it's just a bit too small but even with Celeron surprisingly fast for its size, I instantly ordered the GPD Pocket 3 as a worthy successor. KVM is just what I was looking for.
ive been using a GPD pocket for years and loved it. bought it for the serial port that use used constantly. Much better than toting aroud my dell precision m6800 and a dock all the time lol. I really like the pass through KVM idea. that would have been so helpful in a ton of situations.
Yeah, industrial engineers are gonna LOVE this lmao. I need to get one!
Plot twist: you're not an industrial engineer.
@@FlyboyHelosim not yet. I'm studying to be an industrial data scientist. And I DID work in an industrial engineering company lol.
@@spdcrzy best of on your study man!
@@spdcrzy Well, then you did work as an engineer lol.
Great to see a resurgence of tiny form factor laptops. I had a Fujitsu U810 back in high school and it was an awesome tiny laptop I took to class everywhere, but the UMPC craze died and no one made them anymore. This could be a great replacement for the iPad I use now.
This is exactly what I wanted years ago when I was living in dorms. I still kind of want one just for the hell of it and to support this kind of input. Also waiting for true wireless earbuds with a 3.5mm input on the case that swaps the buds to a more low latency kind of wireless instead of bt.
As a music producer and a big fan of not using mouse and keyboard to make music this is the perfect substitute to a laptop + ableton push. If you absolutely need the computer it’s there and it’s a perfect form factor for quick edits but the focus would turn to the push 9/10 times and that’s exactly what I enjoy. Someday this will be an affordable idea
0:32 I had an Asus Eee PC for years (until the battery crapped out completely), can't remember the exact model but it was one of the non blocky ones, smooth clamshell design, and it was whisper quiet, and fast enough to run photoshop. By no means was it super great, but it filled it's purpose admirably well!
Yeah I miss my 701, put a heavily reduced version of XP on it.
@@johnd5740 I was feeding mine straight up Windows 8 towards the end... =)
you can buy a modern "netbook" with the same class of cpu if you get either a celeron or pentium class cpu in say the $200-$400 range.
@@Montisaquadeis Of for sure, but I've moved on to bigger 2-in-1s. Still, it was a great device for the time, very useful all around.
I had one of those too, was my laptop through college. I loved it. I kept it in use until the internet out grew it. I keep it around hoping one day I can stuff a raspberry pi in it and give it a better screen.
That serial port tho. This is it gentlemen, finally a worthy contender for replacing all the aging thinkpads!
So right. I NEED this device. Those inputs and the size. It's PERFECT for sys admins and Network engineers.
As a network engineer I always carried around a tiny Toshiba Libretto laptop in my jacket pocket, it was so useful, and it did exist before!
GPD shipped me a faulty device. (the Win Max) I reached out immediately, they made ME pay to ship it to China ($120) then refused to fix it. As tantalizing as their products are, I can’t do business with someone like that. Besides, all 3 of the GPD devices I’ve ordered over the past several years have had major QC issues.
Good point, I plan to buy one of this but I'll wait until it is available on Amazon. It will be certainly more expensive, but if something is not right I get Amazon refund. This formula worked fine for me so many times...
I’d purchase it with a credit card and contest the charge if it didn’t work.
@@marsrocket I did contest the purchase. Unfortunately, they sided with GPD.
I'd expect this buying anything directly from an international business, especially from China
Yeah this is why I absolutely wouldn't buy a GPD device except through a store in my own country that offers its own warranty. Glad I made this decision as when my Pocket 2 died after 11 months I got a replacement with little hassle.
8:35 this is the GPD Pocket 1, with Atom x7-8000 8GB of RAM and 128GB eMMC
The main difference between the Pocket 1 and the Pocket 2, visually, was the keyboard, and the removal of the trackpoint, which, i normally prefer trackpoint, but their implimentation left a lot to be desired. The trackpoint was replaced with an optical mouse placed up where the power button used to be on the Pocket 1 (like some blackberry or android phones) I still have my Pocket 1, though i currently use it for more of an IOT like roll with that battery backup and decent linux performance
finally someone who noticed that too
i love this. i see it as a viable device to utilize commuting times and onsite support. now it just needs an integrated oscilloscope, high precision multimeter, low voltage adjustable psu output and a label printer.
oh, sell pants and shirts with compatible pockets :D
I don't think Linus needed a script for this. Man is genuinely speaking from the heart here. Need more content like this.
OK so that HDMI In, can you connect up a DSLR and plug that into OBS for streaming, or is it for remoting into PCs only? If it can be used for streaming I'm losing my mind rn. So done with external capture solutions.
And with Thunderbolt and external PCI. There's so much possible, daily chain some Black Magic TB4 capture along with 25G QSFP!!!
@@gnarf. Perhaps a different expansion card could be made to capture video?
@@gnarf. lame, I did suspect but wanted to confirm. Thanks!
@@MakersMuse On the website they show the video being passed into a windows program. It may just use an internal capture card.
There is another review that shows obs capture on linux working, so it seems to be just a built-in capture card
This is an AWESOME little PC. For those in IT who have to manage physical servers, this will replace the media cart at the data center and that serial port is perfect!
This looks awesome! I'm glad they have Serial. I hope they'll add a VGA KVM too.
I have no need for this item, but I wish I did!
You had me at the video inputs. I need one.
The single Port KVM Functionality is . .
Why does nobody else do this?
If they made a full size version it would outclass a lot of other "modern" portable laptops too
I'd love to see something in the 10-11 inch class that isn't a Chromebook, if this was just a bit bigger, I'd buy one in a heartbeat
@@jasonbernal9348 You have "netbooks" running with celeron/pentium cpus that run windows in that size range still. I personally own a 14" 1080p Celeron N3450 (quad core cpu) 4gb ram 32gb emmc Windows 10 based "netbook" myself. Cost about $220 in 2018/2019 and it is basically what those "Netbooks' of yore have turned into and the industry has dropped the "netbook" branding/term even tho that is basically what they still are.
@@Montisaquadeis I'm sorry. I meant to include that they have more than just a Pentium or Celeron processor. I'm probably going to end up with a 13 inch with with i7 or Ryzen 7 when I break down and replace my older Lenovo Yoga
They do have the P2 Max. Definitely looking forward to an up-specced P3 Max (11-12 inches vs. 9 inches maybe?).
@@jasonbernal9348 OneNetbook 4 is a 10" with the same specs.
definitely a product for certain consumers. where i work, there's hundreds of embedded linux machines spread around the facility. this device would be an absolute dream for troubleshooting and repair, not to mention network testing.
Was wondering what an updated and improved eee 701 might look like. Awesome!
Linus: "It's 1920 by 1200 which I think is the perfect resolution for a device like this. This is an 8 inch screen so you're not going to see the freakin' pixels."
Me watching this on a 1920x1200 24" monitor: *Sad noises*
Me watching on a 32 inch *1080p* monitor.
But srsly, I have a large tablet with around that resolution so I know how much better it is. The difference is I don't have my nose glued to the monitor.
put it 10 cm further away :)
*Me watching on 22 inch 1080p monitor...
I'm watching on a old TV with 32 inch and it's 1280x720...
am i the only one who would still put the video quality on 4k even tho my screen is only 1080p or lower?
This would make working on random desktops so much easier with that kvm module.
ATOMIC MIND BLOWN !!!! I love that little beast. I wish they would make a NVMe slot module to put one of those little mini Kioxia SSDs, for added storage or to clone large NVMe drives from other devices. Wow great work GPD!
I work at industrial atmosphere. We still use the Comm ports. You peaked my interest.
GPD sounds like it'd stand for Gaming Personality Disorder
I can't believe it's the first time I seen, heard or thought of such disorder.
I would love a full review on this, love the Pocket devices and this looks baller.
this is great for IT workers who work in the field like a tech or engineer. ive been delgated back to the office desk but if i was in the field, i'd want one of these
Backed the high end option with stylus and modules, can't wait. I travel frequently and am a strict overhead/carry-on only flyer; it's important to me that I can carry everything I've packed on my back. This is going to significantly reduce my device footprint. Bonus, I can carry this with me on tradeshow floors in a case on my belt and have my PC at the ready whenever it's needed, or use it as a PC for demo equipment in the company booth where space is at a premium.
Dude, the HDMI input/USB output on this as a mobile KVM is a killer feature, holy crap!! You could probably even use this like a NexDock at this point. This is so sick man, oh my god.
I wish there was like a 13" version with this very feature and a more affordable price tag (700-900 bucks). Would be an instant-buy imho. The utility in this thing is just plain amazing.
I mean, think. This works on so many things - from Pis to servers. There are some crazy ass things you can do with just a serial port and it's nuts!
I wonder if they’ll make a Pocket variant for gaming, but the modularity is nice.
The closest you'll get is the Gpd win max.
Yea the Win Max is literally the same SOC but with a controller in it lol (also AMD)
GPD has a lot of other cool stuff. They're legit
This is basically already a Win Max but for non-gaming niches.
I could have really used one of these maybe half a decade ago, but now that it's pretty common for KVMs to be networked, I rarely stand at a rack. And when I do, I need VGA.
my old netbook was pretty good. still works too never really thought it was any louder than any other laptop I had.
2:27 Can imagine how much life we could pump into old laptops if they could accept usb/video INPUTS? Yowza...I wanna live in THAT world.
Ok I never would use it, but I can see how this thing can be extreemly useful for some IT guys. This will be amazing for almost any special workplace.
I have an OQO Model 1+. It was incredible for its time (2005)
They should have a standard modular laptop specification, like a consortium kinda thing. Would be cool to have multiple devices with interchangable modular ports!
i'd buy just that HMDI-in/usb kvm module to use with a laptop over usb
Hmm if this this was like toughbook rugged this would be an amazing little pc for all sorts of outdoor work. Super portable, decent batter, being able to change ports to anything needed.
idk, i have found my gpd pocket 2 to be very unreliable, often booting into the bios or just deciding not to accept keyboard and mouse input, or occasionally just not waking up from sleep at all, requiring you to hold down the power button for like 30 seconds and then reboot.
I think that's the intention of the max 3
Jesus those specs sound so good! Very impressive thag they fit it all in!
Reminds me of the old Thinkpad X--- Tablet series. I constantly miss daily driving my X200t, it's just a bit too obsolete for what I do. So seeing this modern spiritual successor is very exciting. (even if it's *way* outside of my price range lol)
This would be fantastic to play roms on when traveling either by car (as a passenger) or on a plane.
there are cheaper options for emulation on the go
@@domagojbatinic1526 Don't even need a pc for that
A phone will do
I don't see why you wouldn't use a Win Max for that instead unless you're also gonna use the modular part of this alot too.
@@domagojbatinic1526 true but if you already had this for other reasons, it would be a good choice
@@rassular Second this. I mean, just for the fact that it has a joypad.
This is almost so cool for anyone working backend server IT, but I know of very few rack servers or blade systems that use HDMI for their KVM output…..
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I mean, just get a vga/DP/whatever to hdmi cable and you're golden,
Yeah, but I’m almost certain you could get a VGA port chip. Also reality aside, server should really just start using a more modern standard, I mean spending tens of thousands of dollars on a rack with incredible performance, a HDMI port would be nice.
@@ShadowSlayer1441 if we're changing anything, there's a better port already - let's just make usb c a thing in the rack space
A lot of scientific/medical/production hardware still relies on serial for programming and diagnostic.
Nice to see there are still new devices out there which offers this option.
That is incrediblky cool, similar form factor to my ol OQO but way better specs and os support.
Thanks for the heads up Linus!
$1300 for the full spec is actually not as high as I thought it would be. Seems pretty reasonable.
Yeah if you dont consider its size it isn't a great value but for such a small laptop its amazing
And the low end one is more like $700 than $1000.
wow i LOVE this thing!!! video inputs are a feature i've wanted all my life, and am desperate for it to come to our insane phone screens one day. LOVE the flip convertible since my HP elitebooks. chonky compact metal design. friggin MODULES! THUNDERBOLT! this thing is dreamy!!!!
I do love my GPD P2 max. I’ve been using it solid for 2 years as a work laptop. Couple of features in this I’d love if the P2 max had but for my use case the P2 is more applicable.
I love this and I absolutely need it, would be perfect to dualboot too
The people who install servers in the DC gonna love this thing. You just need to grab this small PC and you can use as a console and then after you done with basic server configuration, just connect it with ethernet then you can remote to the server via RDP or web console.
I always wished for a laptop with that build in KVM functionality! I was hoping usb-C might make it a reality some day! here we are!
I have ALWAYS wondered why we can't ise the built-in screen as a display for another machine.
I think I know what my next laptop will be. Damn that's impressive, perfect embedded device display/keyboard right here, and it can work on its own 🤯
I'm curious about linux compatibility tho, but damn this is dope.
This thing looks amazing!
So naturally it will be perpetually sold out, and then support will vanish... like every other amazing micro PC like this. 😐
For the price, I think I will be sticking with my Nexdock over this for a versatile kvm like terminal setup. I think they dropped the ball a bit in deciding what a handheld like this would be actually used for and had they kept this around 7-800 itd be much more palatable for alot of the people that'd be considering a device like this in the first place.
This is a steal for those this was actually designed for. If you think it's not it wasn't designed for you. This is an engineering and networking and Industrial tool not a consumer tool. At that it is incredible
@@tylerryandaughtry I certainly don't disagree with you hence why I said I think and why Linus busy aid in the video the things you've echoed here. I can see the engineering and sciences applications where you may actually still encounter the odd serial port 100%, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around where and how this is worth a grand to the company employing a networking professional.
@@MrPipDarty the fact it is a full fledged computer that can also act as a kvm to hook up to a server rack is fantastic. I might push to get one of these for my robotics software team for any field issues they can grab this one and head to the field
it has been a while since I saw Linus enthusiastic a new piece of tech
The form factor reminds me a lot of the Fujitsu Siemens U810 which ran Windows Vista atrociously with its pre-Atom Celeron M Intel based processor clocked at 800MHz. So it’s very cool seeing a modern iteration of that minimalistic design with hardware able to run a full pledged Windows 10!
For things like this that have thunderbolt i would love to see what they’re like with an eGPU plugged in. Could I conceivably use this for work stuff during the day but “dock” it in the evening for some console quality gaming ? The cpu would be a big limit I’m sure but I’m curious how much
It's a fascinating question, and I'm fairly certain that it would work, as I've done similar things with low-ish spec laptops and midgrade egpu setups for friends.
However, I've always followed a strict rule since I've started my career 15 years ago to keep anything personal off of my work devices, and vice versa.
Even if you have nothing to hide, the security benefits and peace of mind are immeasurable. For the average Joe Schmoe, this could save someone **a lot** of embarrassment.
Discretion is in my nature, but I've seen things I would very much like to unsee. I've even had to call the cops on a guy for child p****graphy once (mandated reporter, but also, f***ing seriously dude?)
Now that the SteamDeck is out, how do you feel about it?
GPD is such an amazing company. Too bad the p2 max gets no love
It is the one I have and no one really cares, not even GPD
meh all they do is overpriced junk
@@ThaexakaMavro ...exept there arent cheap alternatives to make them "overpriced"
@Tong Zou They're going to say 'Steam Deck' aren't they, lol.
I beg to differ. I've had horrible issues with GPD when backing their Win 3. Leaked other customers emails, BS compensations when they knowingly sent out the wrong chip. CS team....good luck with that!
P2 max is OK, but yeah, no bios updates any more and its cooling isn't very effective. Sometimes when it gets hot, the screen starts to flash and you need to wait for a day or so for it to come back. Also, the keyboard switches kinda suck, especially the space misses presses. Can't beat the form factor though! And the screen is beautiful.
Looks great... great review
Before I heard about the steam deck I never knew about these micro laptops. These are so cool!! Never thought of my little surface pro as “big” before
That's not a "Pocket 2", that is a Pocket (1) with the mouse nub.
I have a Pocket 2, which has the upside down mouse/optical sensor.
So wait, is the HDMI input just a passthrough to the display or is it a capture card too? It would be more useful if it was the latter, but I have actually used my laptop with a capture card as a display for consoles in the past when I didn't have anything else and being able to connect other things directly to the same display without having to jump through hoops and deal with the latency of a capture card does sound nice. But it's a tiny screen, so it wouldn't be very good for that, I'd like to see that feature on full size laptops though.
it is a capture card as of now but not surr on the production unit.
There's my next laptop right there -> I can have an in-device serial port for all the Adtrans and older Cisco equipment I have to plug into and reconfig / provide a remote smart console to.
especially with the better keyboard I could really see a tiling window manager working really really well on a device like that
hell yeah
I see HDMI-in on a fully functioning laptop, and my first thought is “Can I stream console games from this thing?”
Framework should take some notes. I would absolutely by an expansion card for this.
You probably cannot, it likely goes straight to monitor, not a capture card
@@hamcha Actually it should be able to, somone on TH-cam showed a video of them using it as an alternative "webcam" input in one of windows default application instead of it just acting like an input for the screen. It should be able to handshake with OBS as an input then.
Edit : Here's the vid of the hdmi input working as an application input. th-cam.com/video/vASnvLdTluc/w-d-xo.html
@@kylecook4806 Nice, thanks
I want to use this for programming on the go! I hate carrying my laptop around just to get some work done. A lot of the time I don't have a surface to bust a laptop or tablet w/ keyboard. Hopefully it can boot Linux and I'll be GOLDEN!
They have tested a few linux distribution’s on it.
Ubuntu MATE usually makes an optimized image for GPD devices
@@imark7777777 Nice. Hope it boots Arch, Manjaro, or Garuda.
@@industrialvectors I program on a Pocket Chip. You underestimate my power.
Pretty damn useful for the mobile computer technician... I wish I had had one of these 15 years ago when I actually needed it. The tech just wasn't quite there yet though 15 years ago, at least for the performance aspect of it.
That KVM and serial port, this thing is destined for Lab 1