I have a 2023 ID4, and I think the piano black trim is beautiful. After two years of driving, I haven't seen any scratches - so maybe the glossy black material is more than just ordinary plastic. If the black trim ever did get scratched, I would buff out the scratches with rubbing compound.
@@Call-me-James I do enjoy the look of it, I just don't enjoy how quickly it looks worn with scratches and fingerprints. I guess it's true, you can always buff it out, but it's a lot of maintenance for high traffic touchpoints.
The ID.4 can turn on a dime, which is very useful for parking and making U turns. ID.4 has a turning circle of 31.5 ft (outer diameter). For comparison, Ioniq 5 has a turning circle of 39.3 ft. Big difference.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I absolutely agree! I was shocked how tight the turning radius is!
Thank you so much for your comment and for your support by watching the video, I really appreciate it! That's so exciting, I hope you absolutely love it! It sucks that we don't get the ID5 in north America
@@Drivers-EdgeYou’re welcome and thank you, also I forgot to mention that here in England at least the driver’s door handle does also move like a traditional door handle if you need to, more for emergencies if your car battery is flat you can still gain access to your car
@@TBKR90 Awesome!!! It probably won’t take that long, they told me 18 weeks at the time of ordering but they called me last week and said by end of July if there’s no issues with transportation from Germany, so that will only be 12 weeks😁
We own a 23 Pro S AWD and love it. One of the complaints is the window control which I don't have a problem with at all. Another is the software interface that I find to be problem free. Although I bought the car with 961 miles on it for $29,325 USD. At that price there is absolutely nothing that compares to it. There are some incredible deals on used EVs right now!
Thank you so much for your comment and for your support by watching the video, I really appreciate it! Yes, it's a really solid car and does a lot really well! I was honestly pleasantly surprised by it! Especially with the rebates that are available, it's a very compelling offer! I'm thrilled to hear you had a great experience with yours!
For comparison, we got the 24 AWD PRO S in the last week of June for $33,500. New 23 model years new were sub $30k at that time period. Used is not bad though either. I never considered a single Tesla model, maybe I will regret but so far not even close to regrets. I anticipate keeping this car well into 150kmi if it will do it, long distance travel isn't a primary use. I was hunting for a 2019 Volt Premier but when I stumbled on this deal I went full EV. Our next purchase will replace our hybrid SUV with a plug-in hybrid that I hope will become much more common and practical.
@@thereplacementfordisplacement Great deals on new ID.4s now but in my case I got both the Fed Tax Credit and the NY incentive in 2023 on a Chevy Bolt EUV so won't be able to qualify again till 2026. The NY incentive for the ID.4 with the 82kwh battery requires the vehicle have a maximum MSRP of $44,875 before any deductions and is $500. So check both Federal and State requirements before going shopping. Also for used EVs check the requirements for the $4000 Federal Tax Credit. We love our used ID.4!
My wife and I looked at the ID.4 two days ago. I would buy one today if it had proper tactile controls. I feel that the trend to have soft electronic controls is demonstrably unsafe as they require one to take your eyes off the road. I'm very disappointed that regulators have not pounced on these changes more quickly and aggressively.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I absolutely agree, the lack of tractor controls really is distracting, as are all the ways we now connect with our vehicles. I believe that this is a segway by the auto industry to push more semi, or completely autonomous driving. It's unfortunately a reality that isn't going away... They don't build them like they used to, that's for sure!
@@Drivers-Edge My sense is that the reason for the poor controls is two-fold: first, it is cheaper and more flexible to use capacitive touch controls; second, they want EVs to have a distinctly different aesthetic. I predict that in 10 years, when EVs are much more common, they will revert to buttons, knobs, toggles, and dials and retro-styling in order to stand out from the competition. In the meantime, I sincerely hope that the various regulatory authorities being to mandate better useability for safety reasons.
@@KeithHanlan Yeh that makes sense. I would imagine that is also just easier with more functions being integrated into screens and touch buttons allows manufacturers to load more features and declutter the interior space. A slider or touch button can hold multiple functions instead of just one.
@TheAlbintube The model Y has some advantages, but I think the ID4 is better than my old RWD MY in the following ways. 1. More range 2. Better seats (Tesla's plastic seats make you sweat horribly) 3. Rear windscreen wipers 4. The rain detection wipers actually work 5. much better turning circle 6.Better build quality 6. Android auto (Tesla's voice recognition is horrible) 7. Much better looking than the MY ( the MY looks like a fat guy in a sperm costume).8. Heads-up dispay. Finally, I no longer have to cringe every time Musk opens his gob.
@@saml4537 haha thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! Those are really great points! I'm so happy you are enjoying your ID4!
Thanks, I upgraded my 2021 ID4 1st to the exact 2024 AWD model/color shown in your video. In addition to the missing rachet arm rest I had in the 1st; the whirring noise is also gone. I thought that this was a US federal requirement. Anyway, love the added range, horsepower, and faster charging speed. Although the redesigned info sys is faster, bigger, and more feature rich, it's still, meh. The ID voice control has also improved. All and all, the 2024 ID4 is likeable enough.
@@metronyc2855 thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it!! That's amazing! It's great to get feedback from your experience having both the older and be ID4 models. It is really nice to see some of the great improvements in this year's model, but I agree, VW still has room for improvement with the vehicle. I'm sure now that VW has invested in Rivian, they will be able to accelerate the rate of improvements by leveraging Rivians Tech and experience with electric vehicle design
I just test drive the id4 s. It was boring looking inside compared to my kia sportage but I did like the way it drove and the fact I wouldn't have to buy gas anymore. I dudnt think it was worth paying $46k before taxes (with the $7500 rebate) for a car that only got 209 mile range
@@NewYorksFinest1 thank you so much for your comment and for watching my video, I really appreciate it! I honestly believe electric vehicles are in an interesting place right now because the technology is only starting to take off. For people that really want an electric vehicle experience, the ID.4 is a nice option, but still lacks the Tesla charging network, range and exciting design, but it is a good vehicle and is really easy to get a long with, compared to Tesla's. For those that are willing to wait a few years, I believe Electric vehicle technology will get way better and will be more attractive to buy. For me personally, I would hold off
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! That's a good question. I'm not sure, to be honest because we don't get the ID.5 in North America, but vw typically standardizes updates across it's range to keep cost down, do I would assume so
A very nice car, but the form over function that comes from using haptic buttons and sliders instead of real buttons in knobs is not something I can support. The pièce de résistance is using 3 buttons to run 4 windows instead of 4 buttons. I vote no on cost cutting in the guise of minimalism. Volkswagen made this a competitive car by increasing the horsepower in the RWD and the AWD. The infotainment system has been fixed as far I know. But unfortunately they've spread those awful controls over all their cars. The ID Buzz will be a hit regardless though.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! Yes, the lack of physical button trend is frustrating, but I am starting to come to terms with it. There are just too many functions in modern cars to have physical buttons for them all. That being said, there are better ways of executing on that than others, and VW has room for improvement here. I do really like the extra power and range and new UI and screen that has come with the refresh. This car won't be for everyone, but is a huge improvement over the previous year, in my opinion
@Molishious I have an ID4 and find the haptic buttons work great. Easy to clean too. Also, people make way too much of a deal about the rear window controls. Yes, 4 separate controls might be good, but I find it works fine. I like the hold function too, which allows you to open all windows at once.
I like VW but I decided not to get this car simply because of the abundance of piano black plastic. This is absolutely ridiculous. Especially in high trafic areas. This will smudge and scratch just by looking at it. Absolutely ridiculous.
@@doloresvancartier4249 thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I completely understand that! It's frustrating to have to deal with all the gloss black...
@@OGParzoval thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! That is really good to know! I haven't yet driven enough EVs to have a serious benchmark, so that is really valuable information.
You are so lucky, I bougth my ID.4 PRO S AWD last week and only got the federal incentive. BC dropped the provicial one for cars more than 50000 CAD. But anyways, I love the ID.4 2024.
Nice car, but 60K? Way over priced. If you drive 10K miles a year ( average), get a Taos for half the price and you won't need to deal with those useless chargers. If it's just to commute, then you're wasting your $$$. Buy a 21K chevy Trax. I don't know how can they even sell this thing?
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! I agree, this is not the most economical vehicle in terms of spend vs savings in the real world, but most people on average spend about 40-50k on a new car and with government rebates the base model is a really compelling option. Especially compared to the electric competition it does start to make sense. That being said, for a basic commuter car, I agree there are much more cost effective options.
I leased this vehicle and I wouldn’t want a Taos personally. The id4 is definitely worth it especially with the discounts. It’s not a waste of money if you enjoy the vehicle. Why not get the car you want if you can afford it?
I own a '23 Pro 4 Motion and the car is absolutely overpriced! The charging performance is very bad - I've seen rarely more then 75.9 kw, so every stop on longer journeys will take aprox. 45 mins or more! The stints are not longer than 250km (startet with 100% battery). After 13000km the chassis begins to rumble. The factory mounted wipers are so bad you have to change them first! The travel assist uses speed limits from the moon - don't know where these speed limits come from ;-) The glass roof makes lot of noise, the doors won't open from inside on the first pull. The dashboard heavily mirrors in the front window.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! This is really important feedback and a valuable perspective!
Thank you so much for your comment and for watching the video, I really appreciate it! I agree, it's frustrating that they are still so expensive, but it's nice to see the production and pricing starting to become better
I have a 2023 ID4, and I think the piano black trim is beautiful. After two years of driving, I haven't seen any scratches - so maybe the glossy black material is more than just ordinary plastic. If the black trim ever did get scratched, I would buff out the scratches with rubbing compound.
@@Call-me-James I do enjoy the look of it, I just don't enjoy how quickly it looks worn with scratches and fingerprints. I guess it's true, you can always buff it out, but it's a lot of maintenance for high traffic touchpoints.
The ID.4 can turn on a dime, which is very useful for parking and making U turns. ID.4 has a turning circle of 31.5 ft (outer diameter). For comparison, Ioniq 5 has a turning circle of 39.3 ft. Big difference.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I absolutely agree! I was shocked how tight the turning radius is!
I originally ordered the ID.4 but then changed my mind and ordered the ID.5 which looks better imo, hopefully get it by the end of July
Thank you so much for your comment and for your support by watching the video, I really appreciate it! That's so exciting, I hope you absolutely love it! It sucks that we don't get the ID5 in north America
@@Drivers-EdgeYou’re welcome and thank you, also I forgot to mention that here in England at least the driver’s door handle does also move like a traditional door handle if you need to, more for emergencies if your car battery is flat you can still gain access to your car
@@poseiidon2029also ordered the ID.5 😃 can’t wait (although I have 4 months to wait 😫)
@@TBKR90 Awesome!!! It probably won’t take that long, they told me 18 weeks at the time of ordering but they called me last week and said by end of July if there’s no issues with transportation from Germany, so that will only be 12 weeks😁
We own a 23 Pro S AWD and love it. One of the complaints is the window control which I don't have a problem with at all. Another is the software interface that I find to be problem free. Although I bought the car with 961 miles on it for $29,325 USD. At that price there is absolutely nothing that compares to it. There are some incredible deals on used EVs right now!
Thank you so much for your comment and for your support by watching the video, I really appreciate it! Yes, it's a really solid car and does a lot really well! I was honestly pleasantly surprised by it! Especially with the rebates that are available, it's a very compelling offer! I'm thrilled to hear you had a great experience with yours!
Türkiye’de bu araç 70.000 $ tahmini fiyatı..😢
For comparison, we got the 24 AWD PRO S in the last week of June for $33,500. New 23 model years new were sub $30k at that time period. Used is not bad though either. I never considered a single Tesla model, maybe I will regret but so far not even close to regrets. I anticipate keeping this car well into 150kmi if it will do it, long distance travel isn't a primary use. I was hunting for a 2019 Volt Premier but when I stumbled on this deal I went full EV. Our next purchase will replace our hybrid SUV with a plug-in hybrid that I hope will become much more common and practical.
@@thereplacementfordisplacement that sounds like a great decision!
@@thereplacementfordisplacement Great deals on new ID.4s now but in my case I got both the Fed Tax Credit and the NY incentive in 2023 on a Chevy Bolt EUV so won't be able to qualify again till 2026. The NY incentive for the ID.4 with the 82kwh battery requires the vehicle have a maximum MSRP of $44,875 before any deductions and is $500. So check both Federal and State requirements before going shopping. Also for used EVs check the requirements for the $4000 Federal Tax Credit. We love our used ID.4!
Another amazing video Yosef! Loved your detailed analysis!
Thank you so much!! 😁😁
My wife and I looked at the ID.4 two days ago. I would buy one today if it had proper tactile controls. I feel that the trend to have soft electronic controls is demonstrably unsafe as they require one to take your eyes off the road. I'm very disappointed that regulators have not pounced on these changes more quickly and aggressively.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I absolutely agree, the lack of tractor controls really is distracting, as are all the ways we now connect with our vehicles. I believe that this is a segway by the auto industry to push more semi, or completely autonomous driving. It's unfortunately a reality that isn't going away... They don't build them like they used to, that's for sure!
@@Drivers-Edge My sense is that the reason for the poor controls is two-fold: first, it is cheaper and more flexible to use capacitive touch controls; second, they want EVs to have a distinctly different aesthetic. I predict that in 10 years, when EVs are much more common, they will revert to buttons, knobs, toggles, and dials and retro-styling in order to stand out from the competition. In the meantime, I sincerely hope that the various regulatory authorities being to mandate better useability for safety reasons.
@@KeithHanlan Yeh that makes sense. I would imagine that is also just easier with more functions being integrated into screens and touch buttons allows manufacturers to load more features and declutter the interior space. A slider or touch button can hold multiple functions instead of just one.
Sold my Model Y and bought the ID4. Loving it!
@@saml4537 that's amazing, thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video!!
Same boat here.. haven’t done it yet.. but seriously thinking!
@TheAlbintube
The model Y has some advantages, but I think the ID4 is better than my old RWD MY in the following ways. 1. More range 2. Better seats (Tesla's plastic seats make you sweat horribly) 3. Rear windscreen wipers 4. The rain detection wipers actually work 5. much better turning circle 6.Better build quality 6. Android auto (Tesla's voice recognition is horrible) 7. Much better looking than the MY ( the MY looks like a fat guy in a sperm costume).8. Heads-up dispay. Finally, I no longer have to cringe every time Musk opens his gob.
@@saml4537 haha thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! Those are really great points! I'm so happy you are enjoying your ID4!
Thanks, I upgraded my 2021 ID4 1st to the exact 2024 AWD model/color shown in your video. In addition to the missing rachet arm rest I had in the 1st; the whirring noise is also gone. I thought that this was a US federal requirement. Anyway, love the added range, horsepower, and faster charging speed. Although the redesigned info sys is faster, bigger, and more feature rich, it's still, meh. The ID voice control has also improved. All and all, the 2024 ID4 is likeable enough.
@@metronyc2855 thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it!! That's amazing! It's great to get feedback from your experience having both the older and be ID4 models. It is really nice to see some of the great improvements in this year's model, but I agree, VW still has room for improvement with the vehicle. I'm sure now that VW has invested in Rivian, they will be able to accelerate the rate of improvements by leveraging Rivians Tech and experience with electric vehicle design
Yeah, the word is that VW is interested in Rivian's the software and developers so I guess we may see the fruits of this JV in future models.
@@metronyc2855 I agree! I'm a big rivian fan too, so I can't wait to see what the JV results in for both sides
I just test drive the id4 s. It was boring looking inside compared to my kia sportage but I did like the way it drove and the fact I wouldn't have to buy gas anymore. I dudnt think it was worth paying $46k before taxes (with the $7500 rebate) for a car that only got 209 mile range
@@NewYorksFinest1 thank you so much for your comment and for watching my video, I really appreciate it! I honestly believe electric vehicles are in an interesting place right now because the technology is only starting to take off. For people that really want an electric vehicle experience, the ID.4 is a nice option, but still lacks the Tesla charging network, range and exciting design, but it is a good vehicle and is really easy to get a long with, compared to Tesla's. For those that are willing to wait a few years, I believe Electric vehicle technology will get way better and will be more attractive to buy. For me personally, I would hold off
@@Drivers-Edge I agree the range for the id4 s is what made me not buy it.
Such a cool car
Thank you so much! It really is!
Does the new 2024 ID.5 get the same updates? I’ve ordered it 😀
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! That's a good question. I'm not sure, to be honest because we don't get the ID.5 in North America, but vw typically standardizes updates across it's range to keep cost down, do I would assume so
A very nice car, but the form over function that comes from using haptic buttons and sliders instead of real buttons in knobs is not something I can support. The pièce de résistance is using 3 buttons to run 4 windows instead of 4 buttons. I vote no on cost cutting in the guise of minimalism. Volkswagen made this a competitive car by increasing the horsepower in the RWD and the AWD. The infotainment system has been fixed as far I know. But unfortunately they've spread those awful controls over all their cars. The ID Buzz will be a hit regardless though.
The controls are so easy to use plus there’s voice control too
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! Yes, the lack of physical button trend is frustrating, but I am starting to come to terms with it. There are just too many functions in modern cars to have physical buttons for them all. That being said, there are better ways of executing on that than others, and VW has room for improvement here. I do really like the extra power and range and new UI and screen that has come with the refresh. This car won't be for everyone, but is a huge improvement over the previous year, in my opinion
@Molishious I have an ID4 and find the haptic buttons work great. Easy to clean too. Also, people make way too much of a deal about the rear window controls. Yes, 4 separate controls might be good, but I find it works fine. I like the hold function too, which allows you to open all windows at once.
I like VW but I decided not to get this car simply because of the abundance of piano black plastic. This is absolutely ridiculous. Especially in high trafic areas. This will smudge and scratch just by looking at it. Absolutely ridiculous.
@@doloresvancartier4249 thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! I completely understand that! It's frustrating to have to deal with all the gloss black...
Of all the EVs I test drove it was the loudest with road noise.
@@OGParzoval thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! That is really good to know! I haven't yet driven enough EVs to have a serious benchmark, so that is really valuable information.
Güzel araba, tanıtım da güzel olmuş.
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They should not be charging $1500 extra for a heat pump in 2024. VW make that the default & included in the price.
@@jjakkad I absolutely agree!
If You are in quebec , it is 7500 federal + 5000 provincial , Total 12 000 (rebate).
I bought one yesterday .
@@lilsabin oh wow that's incredible! I didn't realize their were both government incentives! Thank you so much for sharing that!
@@Drivers-Edge de rien 🙂.
P.s. Same apply to BC TOO , THEY get a provincial + the federal one .
You are so lucky, I bougth my ID.4 PRO S AWD last week and only got the federal incentive. BC dropped the provicial one for cars more than 50000 CAD. But anyways, I love the ID.4 2024.
Nice car, but 60K? Way over priced. If you drive 10K miles a year ( average), get a Taos for half the price and you won't need to deal with those useless chargers. If it's just to commute, then you're wasting your $$$. Buy a 21K chevy Trax. I don't know how can they even sell this thing?
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching the video, I really appreciate it! I agree, this is not the most economical vehicle in terms of spend vs savings in the real world, but most people on average spend about 40-50k on a new car and with government rebates the base model is a really compelling option. Especially compared to the electric competition it does start to make sense. That being said, for a basic commuter car, I agree there are much more cost effective options.
I leased this vehicle and
I wouldn’t want a Taos personally. The id4 is definitely worth it especially with the discounts. It’s not a waste of money if you enjoy the vehicle. Why not get the car you want if you can afford it?
@jacksp8de that's a really great point! Cars are like food and music, very subjective. I really appreciate your comment, thank you!
@@Drivers-Edge exactly! You can save money going to McDonald’s but you might want a finer dining experience lol
Taos is garbage in terms of reliability unlike ID4
I own a '23 Pro 4 Motion and the car is absolutely overpriced!
The charging performance is very bad - I've seen rarely more then 75.9 kw, so every stop on longer journeys will take aprox. 45 mins or more!
The stints are not longer than 250km (startet with 100% battery). After 13000km the chassis begins to rumble.
The factory mounted wipers are so bad you have to change them first!
The travel assist uses speed limits from the moon - don't know where these speed limits come from ;-)
The glass roof makes lot of noise, the doors won't open from inside on the first pull.
The dashboard heavily mirrors in the front window.
Thank you so much for your comment and for supporting my channel by watching my video, I really appreciate it! This is really important feedback and a valuable perspective!
My opinion that EV should not that expensive. Basically just batteries, motors and software.
Thank you so much for your comment and for watching the video, I really appreciate it! I agree, it's frustrating that they are still so expensive, but it's nice to see the production and pricing starting to become better
a jew driving a VW, that's the most pasul thing you've ever done.
Haha it's the biggest FU to Hitler lol