Rifle Project: Ruger American 308
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Projects are a lot of fun in my experience. They give you the opportunity to try different things and make something unique. This is the story of a Rifle Project. The journey of a bone stock Ruger American .308 into something a little more.
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That background weather is glorious.
I thought the same thing. Love the aesthetic of this video
Ivan chooses always great backgrounds, love his videos.
yeah Washington/Oregon state is amazing
Watching this when it's 110 out is depressing.
@@isaaclyons9705 It looks great, its a shame the states themselves kinda suck to live in since Seattle and Portland basically run those states
Good stuff Ivan. Love the foggy scenery in this one.
Right on, thanks buddy.
"...never shoot the 5th round" LOL and sound advice.
It is so true... :)
Is this just because the heat of the barrel will screw up your groupings? I didn’t quite get that...
@@TellurdogIsayhi its a psychological/"luck" thing, you get 4 rounds in a solid grouping and its akin to feeling like you're about to get a hole-in-one, you take the shot as you're thinking about what you say when you brag on the online forums, and next thing you know you fucked it all up because you got over-confident.
@@captaincannabis3321 is it psychosomatic or has there ever been something concrete that shows why? I ask because I don’t think about bragging. When I shoot I have the same mindset as I did enlisted. “F you fast Freddy.”
5th round tells you the most information about how good you process is
"Never shoot the 5th round." Perhaps that's why the rifle came stock with a 4 round magazine?
Your video is the reason I went out and got myself a ruger american 308. I enjoyed the story of the journey you took with this rifle. You weren't direct to the point "this is great because of (insert generic reason here)" you gave the pros, the flaws, and your reasons. You made some real phenomenal content here and I just wanted to let you know that. Appreciate it.
Thanks for that Clay, I appreciate that.
I see many people in the comments stating that the reduction in barrel equating to less accuracy is too bigger trade off, those groupings show the accuracy is still fine, but the application is moving in the woods with a suppressor with ease, that's a really versatile usable gun, proper hunting rife.
You get it. :)
Thanks for including the gunsmithing material. Cool stuff. Nice build.
Definitely Zach, he is a talented smith.
@@KitBadger nice build. So 16.5 barrel ,How long from end to end with the upgraded magpul hunter stock
This reminds me of what Mossberg did with some of their MVP rifles. 16.25 inch barrel, .308, able to use M1A or AR-10 mags, pic rail setup for conventional or scout scope mounting and back sights. Generally speaking its a handy setup without requiring any project work / tinkering
I miss that mossberg flex rifle
Really enjoyed the thought process you went through deciding what you were going to do with this rifle, making this rifle fit the design you had for it, rather than just slapping tacti-cool gear on it. Love the appreciation shown for the hard work gunsmiths put into their craft! Great job, and hope that rifle serves you well in the years to come!
Thanks man, I appreciate you watching and the kind words.
Really appreciate the video and your attitude. I got stuck on having to have my guns all shoot under an inch or I would be disgusted. I really like how you’re just realistic about it and truth be told it looks like you’re not gonna do a lot of long distance shooting. I just bought this same rifle and stock. I’m not gonna trip on it being a 1/4” moa either and just enjoy it. Great video and thanks for posting even though it wasn’t the greatest groups we’ve ever seen. Definitely appreciate someone that’s realistic and not some weekend sniper
Thanks for putting the time and money into this rifle. I was most interested in the stock but your video was done very well and very informative. Great Work.
Thank you William, it was a fun project.
I built my ARs as personal projects. I viewed content from many providers over the years, including your content. Extremely valuable! I now have personal ARs that I would not trade, sell or have a need or desire to replace. They are exactly built to do what they are intended to do. My favorite is my Mini Recce build. Light weight est 7.0 , monouvorable and has beyond 300 yrd reach.
TY for your content.
I hear what you say about the journey. Having said that, I did just get a Ruger model no. 26995 for exactly the same application.
Yeah, I thought the same thing as well. A long way to go to build something you can buy right off the shelf.
Thanks for letting us come along on part of the journey. I hope that we get see some more of Brad working on the rifle.
I may have some more projects coming up with Brad in the near future... :)
The respect for the build makes the use of weapon special and memorable, plus if a sportman is constricted by budget its affordable to customize by adding the magpul and optics then you add from there. Thanks for your time and presentation.
8:27 - Small package confirmed.
That's rad. I'm admiring that barrel work big time.
Thanks man, Brad did an amazing job.
You saw how it grouped after the barrel work, right?
You are not fooling anyone Clark we know you are superman.
“Part of it’s the journey, man.”
Well said, that’s a gorgeous rifle and this was a helpful and informative video. Thanks man I’m inspired
Ivan I think you have the right Idea you showed us what we can upgrade a basic rifle.I think you listen too your viewers because i see your videos getting better and better. Keep the great work.
Thanks Joe, I appreciate the feedback. I'm always trying to improve. :)
I have two Ruger American rifles, a 30-06 and 243. Love them both, super accurate. I've hit a steel plate at 400 with the 243 and so has my son.
Nice shooting!
I've hit steel with my ruger percison 22 lr at 400 consistanly as long as the wind stays constant.
@@salcidojosiah same with my rpr in 17hmr .
I did the same with a football, over a mountain
@@kenwalls135 impressive.
11:09 you blew O rings out of the suppressor😂 that was cool
Whoaaah dude thats dope
I totally agree with building a gun with your own ideas. It makes it so much more fun. I really like your build.
Awesome video man.I love watching machinists work on guns. It’s amazing what they can do.
Agreed, it is an art form.
Yeah but all along the gun Smith was saying , I told you it will be shit but I'll still do my best work and take your money lol
Upvote 405; my Fav old caliber. I'm motivated; Thanks Ivan!
Right on man!
Your gun smith was sent from heaven!!! Hands like a surgeon!!!
He is really talented. :)
That’s a real slick looking American now too. I do really like the look of “short” barrel bolt guns.
Me too, long barrels aren't practical for most of the shooting I do.
I recently finished my Aero epc9 with fixed stock and 16 in barrel. Def my favorite rifle, even within the limits of the 9mm bullets at higher velocity. Lots of bad press on Magpul Glock mags, they are perfection in my pea shooter. Vortex Sparc on top. Used Hogue aluminum handguard out front, love it no holes and I can drill and modify as needed. And I have Strike Industries latch less charging handle. And finally, in my area 9mm ammo is available again.
Good stuff. Love your delivery and that barrel/stock combo is freaking sick.
I’m still here 3 years later…but someone got a new gun for Christmas. Build incoming!!! You should too
That's what I like to see. Awesome set up. I build my own AR10 rifles and pistols. I plan on doing something similar with a bolt gun. I plan on doing a 308 bolt. Great video. Thanks
Awesome video. Really liked how you included the machining process
looks like a pretty spiffy keen rifle thanks for the awesome review and like that you test it in so many different ways but my favorite is you shooting them at distance.
Right on man, thank you!
Great video. Like seeing the nuts and bolts processes. Always cool to see a craftsman work their trade with skill and precision. Made me want to buy a lathe!
Yes, machine work is an art. :)
To some the journey is the destination.
Gotta enjoy the path you're on. :)
Ruger essentially makes this now from the factory. They call it the Ruger American "Silver". Comes with the Magpul stock. 16.1" in 308. 18" in 6.5CM. Threaded. Looks more like a bull barrel. non-tapered. It's about $800. I'm thinking it's cheaper getting it with the stock on it already and no barrel cutting/threading. Seems like an interesting concept. Shortish barrel on a bolt gun, so very appealing to can owners. I wanna pick one up since it's so affordable. I'm having trouble finding a weight on it though. Could be very useful in situations where you're on the move, need something light, quiet (for super sonic anyway), maneuverable, etc... There's no videos about it though.
Ruger #26997 looks similar. I am considering buying one. Thanks for the video. I like your voice and coverage of products.
Sound quality for being outside is fantastic!
Thanks for that Eric!
That's it, gonna have a smith cut down my 6.5 after the can comes in. Great video, love the input on tactical games too. I've done a bunch of other similar competitions, think I'll wait to travel out east for that one until after they get it sorted.
Right on man, let me know how your project goes!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your little project!
I like working on projects like these. You never know how they’ll turn out till the very end and sometimes you and your making future changes.
I love the way you went through this project and how you displayed it on video, I am inspired and will make a similar journey with Remington 700 short action 308 & Ruger American 762 x 39
I freakin LOVE this build!!! So cool man!
Thanks man, I appreciate you watching.
love what you did to that rifle. Glad you like it!
The shots from 9:14 + the music meditative af.
Found myself zoning into the relax
Thats techno for ya
I have found my 18.5 inch .308 barrel (1:10 twist) prefers pills in the 150/155 gr range vs 165/168 gr. Might tighten those groups on that good looking rifle!
Right on Darren, I'll have to try some.
You’re one of the only reviewers that I’ve seen that can’t manage 1MOA with this gun. I watched a guy use a bunch of off the shelf hunting loads in the original stock and he was shooting 1MOA or better. I’m not bashing you or your abilities, but I’m wondering if the barrel work has something to do with the sub par accuracy 🤷♂️
probably not his pre gunsmith grouping wasnt much better
Could be he's an honest reviewer? Or an over-torqued action screw? Or just a lemon from the factory. Honestly 1.0-1.5 MOA groups are perfectly fine for the application he's looking at.
Yeah. Hard to justify when you compare to a Tikka T3. Mine shot .82 moa out of the box with factory .308.
my rugar american shoots sub moa out of box with many loads. Maybe you got a sketchy barrel or something.
Ive shot right at moa and sub moa on some ammo with this same exact rifle. I have holes touching each other with winchester 7.62x51 149 gr target
Love these build videos. Short barrels on everything! Very slick rifle.
Shorter wins for most applications. :)
Looks HECTIK and true build history behind it to make it unique for yourself.
TY for vid CHAMPION!!!! Lol you’ve just made my mind up for my next bolt
Right on, glad to help.
Great video and pov. I especially like the, “Why didn’t you buy xyz?” comment. There is a degree of pride when you assemble something the way you want it, like this neat bolt gun or an ar build. 10/10 my guy.
You get it. :)
For some reason this video reminds me of the Balkans...
Sweet little project. May have to drag mine out and do something similar.
It is a fun gun to modify, relatively cheap to get into. :)
Did this back in April. Used a Magpul Hunter in FDE. Love the addition of the can.
Nice, those are rad stocks.
Part of it is the journey! Well done!!
Hey Ivan, I really like your channel !
Maybe a soft surface under your bipod or/and a good grip with your left arm on the forend could help avoid erratic jump and tighten the group. Cheers.
Thanks Gildas, I appreciate that.
Such a neat, interesting channel!
Thanks Mark!
I love it….I know this is old but still true….so many ppl are following others instead of using patience while experiencing the journey
Awesome "regular joe" build! Also love that you werent just using top tier hand loads/match ammo, and showing us it can shoot well with "cheap" ammo like core-lokts that a lot of people shoot because its what they can afford.
Damn nice build!!
Thanks JD, it was a cool project.
You just gave me a good idea for my savage 110
Nice!
Savage 110 is way nicer rifle then the Ruger American
I picked up a stock American .308 last year and just recently started it as a project gun. I threw the Magpul stock on there and picked up a few 10-rounders which is such an improvement over that rotary stock mag. I also ended up mounting the sling slightly different than you did. I used the pre-marked holes on the bottom of the stock to drill in some sling screws. I just find it more comfortable that way. A local gunsmith has the rifle now - I had the same issue that you did with your threading. We ended up deciding to chop it down to 15.5 and pin&welding a SiCo ASR mount (5/8x24, phew) on there, now just waiting through this lovely Form 4 waiting period. All in all, I'm excited to get it back and see how it shoots, really excited to have it as a project gun. I ended up leaving the smith just the barrel and the action so I could do some custom stippling on the Magpul stock. Great vid and great project rifle.
Very cool Jim, that sounds like a great gun you're going to end up with!
I had bought this in 243 for my boys. I found hand loading with a faster powder (closer to an AR) for the 16 inch barrel gives much better groups. Now I find myself grabbing theirs before and of mine if I'm shooting for precision or a long hike in a hunting trip.
My RA ranch in .308 is really picky for ammo but mysteriously puts cheap core-lokt rounds into a 3/4 inch group at 100m.. for my favourite long range bullets i had to load my own. None of the factory loads work as well in the shorter 16" barrel
I have found shorter barrels are a bit more picky when it comes to factory loads.. try handloading some rounds for it and i gaurantee you you will end up with a 1/2 MOA gun.. just something ive noticed with shorter barrels on bolt guns
I'm sure it would tighten up with handloads, but that isn't where I want to spend my time, or the intent of the gun. :)
Brad is a true craftsman, enjoyed watching him work.
Agreed!
What a wicked looking little gun. Looks like a blast to shoot.
It is a ton of fun. :)
Looks great! Katie and I watched it together.
Awesome man, glad you like it!
Love everything you do any chance of a review on the Sig Cross 308
Thanks man, we'll see on the Cross.
This guy is awesome. Real passion. Keep it up man
Awesome project mate, the end result is a very nice setup.
Thanks man, I really had fun with it.
should have started with a predator model. 18.5 inch 5/8 in threaded barrel from the factory. I picked mine up for 360 bucks new
Score! That wasn't available when I started this project.
I have the same gun with the factory 16” threaded barrel. Do you recommend a particular muzzle break for it? No need for suppressor compatibility. Thanks
The SureFire ProComp is a grate comp if you don't need to mount a suppressor.
beautiful piece!
Cool video and digging the story...keep it pushin!!
Wow...must be nice to live in a free state where you can do all those mods like a free person......(single tear falls)
Time to move. :)
What state doesn't let you do this???
This thing performed way better before you dropped all the money on it.
I'd have to ask my gunsmith buddy but it seems he had a trade off. shorter barrel possibly made it less accurate but easier to carry around the woods, but the magpul stock took the accuracy back to what it was originally. Plus the stock makes the whole rifle more useable as a whole. I can't say much about the optic because i've never shot through a high end optic, just cheap hunting ones. I have the same gun he does but Its all original, the stock sucks on them, they're just cheap and kind of flimsy. My buddy has the magpul stock or something like it on his remington and it is a dream to shoot.
Completely agree nordefense ! My Ruger American has done numerous times a 0.62 - 0.78 in it's factory representation at 100 yard's with premium Hornady ammo. My stock was one of factory revised so it doesn't touch the barrel anywhere like some of the earlier one's .
Believe mine is called A.i style or one with Magpul 5 rounds. So I'm not changing a thing under a inch & have shot under 3/4 inch several times so throughly impressed. Wouldn't be hard to be sub moa at 200 with my gun.
Maybe go with the compact version and just swap the stock...? 🤷🏻♂️
@@nmhornd That's what I am doing at the moment. I went with the Ruger American Compact and then purchase an OEM regular stock. That way the barrel is 2" shorter and is factory threaded (muzzle brake and suppressor-ready). The regular Ruger American's have a lighter barrel than the Preditor but I prefer this for weight savings. This will make for a lighter and more compact gun for backcountry backpack hunts. And when my boys are old enough to join me hunting I can put the compact stock back on.
Rowdy Broomstick l
did this same stock and scope setup on a rem 700 30-06 and been my hunting companion ever since
Nice!
@@KitBadger love it! Wish it was .308 but i'll deal with the the 30-
Only thing i added was a bolt knob and a cheek pad that has a small container for ammo some oil/cloth
I will have to speak on the durability though, The sling point on the stock end has stripped out, after just 2 hunting seasons. I used a thread repair kit for motorcycle engines and so far its held up, and idk if yours is the same way but if you put 2 fingers on the barrel, and end of the stock, can you squeeze them and make them touch? i felt like i couldn't do this at first, but now can... Other than that though it's took a beating so far
Also i cant find anywhere, neither at a gun store nor online, extra magazines. I have found the magwell + magazine, but its like $70+ I just want a couple extra mags but can't find em
dude your vibe is so chill
so basically it's less accurate now, got it.
way less accurate at that
Tends to happen when you cut 8" off barrel of a $400 gun...
Shortening a barrel will generally decrease group size
I'm so glad you said that I thought I was the only person who thought the same way, it seems like most of the people on here don't zero there rifle as well lol.
It ain’t the barrel length. Quit regurgitating myths you read in a forum. The crown might have gotten chingalayed, the action screws may need tweaking, there may be some misalignment with that adapter. That’s just not the factory barrel to chop and thread. Ole boy can do what he wants with his money and toys on fantasy mountain. Just don’t get the delusional enchantment with his spendings.
My Predator in Hunterstock is a sub moa gun with 3 of 5 ammo types i tried.
That is awesome, I think those Predators sometimes do a little better with a heavier contour barrel.
Really like your video I’m impressed. Thank you 🙏
No matter what you are right by saying, it's yours. It's always been one of my favorite rounds, and I bet it is fun to shoot. Good luck always.👋🇺🇸
USA!!!
Damn I like that electronic song, what is it?
A friend made it for me. :)
Name that song , smart phone search
People get way too hung up on sub MOA rifle accuracy.👍🇺🇸🤙
Fresh Fowler in TH-cam comments every rifle is sub moa.
@@Garrick1983 most new rifles from reputable manufacturers are probably pretty close, as long as you don't get a lemon.
#truth
A bolt gun should always be around 1 moa always if not less than there’s no excuse for over
@@jesseterrell9354 well with the price of the ruger american being well below $600 or even $500 I'd say around 1 to 1.5 moa is pretty good for the price
This looks like a fun project, thanks for the inspiration!
It was a blast. :)
Love your thought process & execution on your cool project ...👍🏽
Thanks man.
Its a nice looking little rifle, and will work great for hunting. But it seams you put a bunch of time and money into it, to make it shoots worse than it did originally.
It doesn't, it just groups better with different ammo now. It shoots, sometimes I shoot. :)
It absolutely went from a sub-moa rifle to a solid 1.5moa rifle.
Ruger Americans offer great accuracy for the $$$ ... easily made to be .5-.75moa. Sadly this project didn't end that way.
But if the owner is happy with his investment, that's all that matters at the end of the day.
Alot of tall claims about people's guns and how tight they shoot.... I call BS.
It is very rare to see a gun/bullet/shooter combo that actually shoot 1 moa groups of 5 or more rounds at 100m or further.
#truth
That is very true
My American Predator 6.5 creedmoor in an ICD chassis with timney trigger, gamma 65 brake, cheap utg bipod, cheap utg scope, and winchester deer season xp 125gr ammo shoots phenomenal, got a 3/8 moa 4 shot group, od like to say 5 shot but I pulled one, I know that for a fact, and of not for one of the 4 being slightly away from the other 3 that were all in the same spot it would have been around a 1/8 moa group, the only limiting factor there was me, because its definitely capable of greater accuracy than I am, but hey I still think I did pretty good
Nice build. Thanks
That's a really nice stock I was looking at those. Cool video
6:22 no Kit Badger upload is complete unless the wah wah guitar riff is present.
#truth
The only interesting rifles, are accurate rifles.
Cool.
@I am a Neo Nasty honestly curious on how you use your rifles. I spoke to the purpose of this rifle in the video and it will fill that role in spades. Do you "like" the idea of a accurate rifle? Do you shoot groups and take photos of them? This was designed as a project to be carried and employed hunting. And to the end of accuracy, it is probably way more capable than it was with me behind it. :)
I believe Niobium was attempting to quote Col. Townsend Whelen. The quote goes, "Only accurate rifles are interesting." Larry Porterfield, CEO of Midway USA, drops this quote at the beginning of their videos that pop up all the time on TH-cam (or at least used to).
Because nothing else was said, I don't think jumping on him with a quick, seemingly sarcastic, "cool" makes much sense.
It wasn’t meant to be a direct quote, more of extending that idea to this rifle that seems to me to not be very interesting. Shooting a good group on paper is the basic accuracy that you build your shooting platform off of. I was infantry in the US Marines. Accuracy is everything, otherwise we are just lighting off Chinese fireworks. I can back my shit up.
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@@Niobium23 cool. :)
I plan on getting this exact rifle. Good to know Magtug makes an aftermarket stock.
Cool journey - really enjoyed the video. Thanks!
Right on, thanks for watching.
Well i mean......at least it looks badass. **shrug**
So it shoots worse now?
I mean I guess if you are happy with it.personally I would have the Smith sharpen up the crown he rounded over.
No, not at all. I think it probably groups better with different ammo now. And yes I am. I guess you're journey will take you somewhere different though. :) If you ever do a project like this I mean.
@@KitBadger I have a r700 that's very similar but I ended up with better results. My 700aacsd shot 1moa out the box but the magpul stock, good glass, and a trigger had it shooting 1/2 moa consistently until i got about 4k rounds down the barrel now it's back to 1moa and ready for a new barrel.
Problem is a new barrel cost more than a new rifle and i can swap all my upgrades to a new rifle for less than gunsmith fees considering the lack of gunsmiths available.
I was quoted 1400 for a new barrel installed, threaded for a specific device to shoulder correctly. Which if he had to machine receiver threads I would understand but it's a remage barrel.
Gotta pay to play but I'd rather buy a shilen barreled action then pay a gunsmith 1500 for a custom action and shilen barrel or 1400 to reuse a basic remington action.
@@kylevanwinkle2081 ya, sounds like a new rifle is a better deal for you at that point.
Crowns do not make guns shoot more accurately. It is a myth.
Love it, thank you :D
Looks cool Ivan, shoots well enough to be a viable urban counter-sniper system. I had the barrel cut down on the first used rifle I bought (a .22 bolt). Still have it 45 years on. 👍🏼
That’s awesome!
Fun fact: every Ruger comes with a tin of chew, and a voucher for a free haircut, but it has to be a mullet.
#truefacts
I’m in
mine didn't
I'd be pissed if my Ruger shot groups like those.
It probably wouldn't with your behind that gun. :)
Me too. I just put a Savage 12FV in 6.5 C to test and first range trip rounds 5-9 shot .39 MOA. (The 5th shot let me down...again LOL) This is my first video on this channel so I don't want to be 'that' guy...but...I'd get rid of that gun!
This last week I decided to do almost the exact same thing. I bought the Ruger American Predator .308 (18” barrel). I ordered a Magpul Hunter stock, and a Primary Arms Slx 3-18x50 FFP scope with their Glx cantilever scope mount, as well as a Griffin Armament EZ brake to mount my Rex Silentium MG7 can on. Parts are arriving tomorrow, and I can’t wait to get it set up and zeroed. Hopefully I’ll be able to take coke coyotes and whitetail with it soon!
I have the 308 predator and just fitted the hunter stock after a years ownership. Very pleased with the result. Has always shot very good groups and shoots a bit better now out to 300 yards at the range. Won’t shoot game over 150 yards on principle! Can’t be beat for the money!🇨🇦🇺🇸🏴🇬🇧
@@vincentnastri7736 it’s a great rifle, especially for the money!
Great review, great build, love your attention to detail.
Thanks!