How to Tie the "Super" FG Knot with Seth Feider
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2018
- The FG knot is Seth Feider's favorite line to line knot. It boasts both exceptional strength and a small size that allows it to slide through rod guides with ease.
On a related note, braid to fluorocarbon leaders have become his go-to flipping and pitching line set up for the reasons provided here ( • Why Pair Fluorocarbon ... ). Powerful hooksets place a lot of stress on the knot and is when slippage occurs. Seth combats this risk by adding a few additional steps to the traditional FG knot that provide an extra failsafe against slippage.
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I need more Seth Feider how to videos in my life. Genius!
Thanks for adding this Ryan. Our staff was just talking about the exact thing today. The dude does an awesome job teaching his craft -- doesn't hold back on anything. He'll be a regular fixture on the site so keep checking back from time to time.
The FG knot goes through the rod guides so smoothly. Better than any other knot. Smoothness equals longer casts and less wear on the knot. Practice makes any task easier. Good video.
You have an excellent way of finishing the FG knot! I think I'll adopt it. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Jim. Seth is a knot nut so we usually adopt his methods too. Good luck!
I’ve watched 5 video’s from different people and you have the best way to finish off an FG knot. Thanks
The FG, for those that love tying knots more than fishing.
BassGeek crazy Alberto knot
Joe Dirt with the detailed explanation!!
@@FightingCondition Alberto 2 all day
R.D. S. Yeah I use 2 cast worth of flouro carbon on my spinning reel and a double uni. No not goes threw my guid and low to no line twist. You can cut and retire several times without having to replace the leader. I’ve got a ton of videos catching big smallies that proves it works.
It’s not hard, just takes practice
Rizzuto finish is the way to go 👌🏻. Forget those half hitches.
Thanks for the 1/2 twist tip when alternating wraps! Was a big help!
We loooooove Seth!!!!!!!
Awesome way you tried your FG knot I usually tie it the regular way . I'm going to throw that overhand knot in mine next time .thanks for the tip
Great tutorial, I love this knot! It's never failed me.
that last step with melting the braid is important. I always melt the end of any knot. It keeps it from pulling out
The next big innovation in line will be the elimination of knots between braid and fluorocarbon and use of a bonding agent and/or a small micro sleeve each line end can feed into and be sealed with heat or epoxy to bond the two lines together. People hate tying knots and a good engineer will put an end to the cumbersome knots. I am working on some innovations now to solve this problem.
Thanks for the step by step for the FG Seth. It will give me something to practice this winter when I am bored wishing I was on the lake. I still use the Alberto knot for my 832 to fluoro Invisx leader, and the good old Palomar to the lure. Palomar also if using straight braid to the lure. I only use one rod with straight Seaguar Invisx or Tatsu and that is my cranking rod using 10 or 12lb test, but I go by diameter not lb. test. I use that particular baitcaster that way for the sinking properties of fluoro, and it gives it a little stretch as well for when using treble hooks on a crankbait to help keep them buttoned up, along with a crankbait purpose built rod. We all have our ways for sure in doing things, but I always pay attention to you Elite guys. For me tying knots becomes like someone who can type, or play a guitar, etc. Just muscle memory and the time it takes is so much simpler when you get to that point. I would do my knots quicker and nicer if I had my 20 something eyesight back,,,tying with cheater glasses now..hahahaha! That and get the bushes and docks way more than I used to now that I am 50yrs. old. I lose sight of the lure after a certain range,,grrr! Great season with the Elites, I have enjoyed watching you since you've came into the series. Hoping you're in the Classic again next Spring...good luck!
Good camera shots and great explanation Thanks
Thanks Frank, appreciate it.
i've been using this knot for the past 5 years and swear by it! Exactly how I tie mine, minus the lighter.. usually just do a basic fishing knot over the top of it to keep it all in place.
Thanks Seth. The last steps really helped me out a lot.
Thanks for the option. Ive used the FG before less your end steps. Its a good knot but it is a bit time consuming and not really much less cumbersome than a well tied Alberto. The only time I use the FG is if Im using a stick with modified micro guides i.e. my Denali Lithium series rods. It does help a bit getting through the guides. Aside from that I roll with the Alberto for my BC outfits and uni to uni (typically) for SC outfits (just cause I can tie a uni to uni super fast and it works well).
Great information om this difficult knot to tie, Thanks Seth
Best tutorial on the fg knot I seen so far. Made it look easy and quick. Thanks Seth!
Retrou Vailles Quick!! Really?? Completely ridiculous knot!!!!!!
You are the KNOT master .. 👍👍
Great knot, awesome tutorial.
Shock leader done with the FG is the best for sure.....Fish on
Fantastic . Thank you
Sweet mullet dude
Hell yea I like that 🤙I got the hang of it now
I will try it 👍
Cheers Mate.
Alberto all day. Tied 1 on my wife's rod 15braid to 8 Tatsu, she got a 44" 21# musky in while doing everything wrong fighting it then when i attempted to net it, bent the net flopped back in the water but we did land it, surprisingly.
This knot is responsible for me hating using braid. I’ve tried everything I just can’t do it. I’m doing what he says but my line doesn’t wrap the same.
Have found doing the fg this way works perfectly on a 10lb fluro leader but I just can't get it to work on a 4lb. The turns just bunch up on top of each other. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
That stache is the real star lf this video lets be honest!
Use a quadruple surgeons super simple good for short leaders cause it’s not the best for line guides, but works for me. I only do FG if shore fishing and using ultralight gear.
good dude
There’s a video with Aaron Martens and Brett Ehrler talking braid to Fluoro knots. Brett ties a modified Alberto in like a minute. Aaron ties an FG in 4 minutes. I watched Bret and could tie the Alberto first try. I still have no idea how to tie the FG... Is it really worth the hassle to go from a 90% to a 95% strength? Not for me right now at least.
The half hitch he made with the flouro, was the tag end, and on itself, is that right?
Is it really worth the time to tie this over other braid to flouro knots?
functionable
What happened to the double wrapped modified Albright doubt if this is any better than that one
Ken R that’s my favorite knot..although I’m using also FG knot sometimes,especially for light spinning ..cheers buddy!👍 Btw..not sure which one is stronger(between modified Alberto or FG knot) but both are strong,some of the best knots when tying braid with mono/fluorocarbon lines!
I have tried this dozens of times and I can’t get it to bite. Every single time the flouro just slips out. I have tried less tension, more tension, I just can’t seem to get it. I am using lighter line though. Usually 15lb braid to 8lb flouro. I finally gave up and went to the SC knot.
Let’s all ignore this mans epic hair. Bringing back the chatahoochie mother f*ckers.
Haha!
What cigar is that @4:53
Could this knot be tied with a mono mainline instead of braid? As braid is banned on a lot of uk waters
Uni to Uni would probably be the better choice to go from mono to fluoro... the fluoro would most likely slip too easy thru the mono wrap with a FG knot
I'm going to try to find a fast version of this, but this is complicated... I do Albrights for braid to FC without issue...
I also use fingernail glue on the last 4 half hitches. Not superglue.!!
Fingernail glue doesn’t dry hard like superglue it’s much more flexible and it’s extremely cheap.
What is the best braid scissors?
Boy, there's a pile of them KeepinItBassy! We have full team of avid anglers here at Wired2Fish but I'll share my experience. I keep at least three Rapala Super Line Scissors in the boat (wired2.fish/RapalaScissors). Are they the highest-end avail? Probably not. Do they work well on braid on other types of line? You bet. I also like the fact that they're very affordable so I can keep several on-hand in the boat and a few additional spares hanging up in my garage. If you're shopping for other options, Tackle Warehouse has a pile here (wired2.fish/TW-Scissors): Ryan
I don’t have a problem with tying the knot, the problem I have is it I have found it is only good when the leader has a larger diameter than your braid mainline. I have had this fail. Unless my leader is a large diameter I am going with the Alberto.
The four turn Surgeon knot or Modified Albright knot hasn’t fail yet. I only used two feet or less as a leader.
Really nice to see all the negative comments. For those of you that know everything, put up your own video. Maybe the negative comments you get will change your perspective. How about just thanking the man for a good video!
Do you still cast your knot through micro guides?
I do, and it rarely gets hung up. I also use a small drop of super glue on both ends. Size down the line if it keeps hanging up.
How's the noise on that brad? Low? High? Thanks
Medium to medium heavy with a low fast medium heavy parabolic low medium moderate sound
I just want to fish!!
Hi Seth,
You mention that you use 30lb braid with 20lb leader.
I thought they should be equal LBs! if ehat I heard is correct could you pls explain why yours is not equal?? Thanks a lot
It's not necessary for rated break strengths to be the same. In general, your line to line knots will form the best when line diameters are reasonably close. In this case, the 30lb braid diameter is .011 whereas the diameter for 20lb fluorocarbon is .017. In this case, the lines work well together and produce a very strong knot. If your knot comes together well and is strong, then your line choices are suitable for the application.
Wired2Fish ı got you, thanks Seth
Do you ever use a few drops of super glue on the knot to help Lock it and help it go through the guides more easily?
Aye! It’s smallmouth wizard!! Lol
Who has time for this in a tourney? Alberto/Albright is what I use
If you practice, it won't take you long to tie it. I'm still sticking to the crazy alberto tho.
Bet you he has like 4 rods prep and ready to go.
@@ericmaciel6441 He probably has more than that. I have six myself and I'm no Seth Feider.
Yucatan knot for leaders
Ladies and gentlemen, it is with great pleasure that I introduce to you the totally cool and completely awesome... Joe Dirt
Seth would take that as a compliment.
If you do a Double Uni knot the proper way it's just as tight and just as small and can get through easy
Great video. One thing though, ditch the lighter and get yourself a battery powered soldering iron. super cheap, more accurate and no worries with the wind.
Nice work, check out rizzuto finish for another option to close off
I love the profile on this knot but it is just so time consuming to get right. I’d rather run an Alberto or double-uni.
I agree! Double uni is best
I'd have to concur.
Well when you fish for money and have 20 rods ready to go I’d take an fg. Uni to uni works fine for us normal fisherman
Great knot, but no way I'd try it at night!
In this months I’m using a tony Pena and for close the knot I use the braid and go around the fluorcarbon and the braid is very cool and strong
my FG knots always slip until i pull on the braid and lock em down. seems to hold after that though
Well... Then I suggest that you lock em down. Derp
JFC it's like your knitting a sweater. U+1F44E
Is there a reason you would use a lighter over a dot of super glue?
Adam Simpson superglue causes the fluorocarbon to loose its flexibility. It can also make the knot brittle. The rizzuto finish is the way to go with an FG knot IMO.
Plenty strong but there are many, less complex and time consuming knots that are just as strong.
And the heat alone from that flame is damaging the flouro and making it brittle
That Stache tho 😂😂
Started using this for fishing texas rigs deep. My hook up ratio is much better
Look into the rizzuto finished fg.
How many tablespoons of cream for the perfect risotto though?
After burning the braid tag end I like to use the tiniest drop of super glue over it to make absolutely sure its secure.
Lol when you know the tip of the flame is the hottest, as a fisher, I know why you know 😂😂 🤙🏼
Pack the bowl!!! I mean, drop the poles!!! 😂
Here, hold my beer..... 😂😅🤣🤙😎😎🔥🔥👍👍👍
Ive never understood the fascination with this knot. The blood knot takes 10 seconds to tie and my leader knot doesn't break, it's always at the lure tie, but most of the time the line itself breaks before either knot. The RP knot is another decent one but takes more time. A properly seated and synched blood knot is the best leader knot for strength and time imo. The fg is way too time consuming and leaves alot to screw up.
let an alberto knot give out on you and youll find yourself spending 2 hours mastering it! lol i heard/was told the alberto was shown stronger than the blood knot. fwiw....this one not bad if you do just the simple FG knot instead of this thing.....not as quick as the alberto, but once you get the flow its a lot easier. Just some wraps and a few hitches....nothing hard about that
@@spaloslvnv good thing I've never had a blood knot fail in 4 years of tying it. I dont use the rp knot as much. I can tie a blood knot in about 10-15 seconds. Never had an issue. 15 lb braid to 8 lb flouro and 40 lb braid to 15 lb flouro. I mainly use backing on my casting gear though. Tiny tiny Micro guides...
How many wraps using the blood knot?
I have wat he’s this video and many others countless times, I still can’t do it.
Ehhhhh Double Uni FTW.
Uni not hasn't failed me once
Half hitches need to be wrapped in opposing directions. That's why they've been coming out on you.
Really great abrasion resistance and though I've never put the Big Game line th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQ4x31pJVpClzhxzNFeILZYTW7Xbs7ZIF (any poundage) through an official test it always seems to break well above rated poundage. This line stretches a very good amount before it breaks and does well in saltwater too. Not the best line for a spinning reel in my opinion, especially if you're planning on using it for lures only due to it having a bit of memory but still a great line whether filling a spool, using as top shot or strictly for leader line. I've bought a bunch of Big game line in the past and plan on continuing to do so in the future.
Didn't know Joe Dirt was a fisherman
And a real good one at that!
Well i just found winter project lol
And to make it completely fail safe cut the braid 3 inches up from the fluro throw the fluro in the trash then tie the bait to the braid with a palomar knot. Guaranteed 0 issues!
F the fg knot I have tried it 50x and it does not work
I love the fg but it takes way too much time. Double uni for me
learn the Crazy Alberto faster to tie then a uni to uni and 10 times as strong
Like it.
I like to use glue
good vid just think that you needed to slow down the demo a little
Actually blue flame is the hotter part... so the lower part closest to the lighter is hotter. Just sayin.
Is that guy in witness protection or what's going on here?
Lmaoooooo
Damn funny!
Haha! Fiederman is one of a kind.
Nice discreet burp at 2:12 hahaha
That's how Justin Bieber is going to look in 10 years
I just use a light dab of super glue after the half hitches
Zeiksnor.
When the line fails at the knot instead of some random spot in the line, you didn’t do something right. The FG with a rizzuto finish, paired with the double pitzen knot, will never fail at the knots, meaning if you lose that fish then you either set the hook so hard you tried to launch it to the moon or you need to go up in pound test or buy a better quality fishing line or your old line is past it’s prime.
Andddd now you're 30 mins late for weigh-in
I used to use the fg knot. Completely ridiculous. It gets all caught up in your guides and has th be retired after a few fish or snags. Just do a blood knot, and stop using flourocarbon. It's expensive and really not worth it. I started using mono instead and I catch just as many, if not more fish because the line doesn't break ad soon as it gets a little fray in it. I've caught probably 30 bass and an 11lb flat head on 10lb power pro to a 15 ft long 6lb bass pro mono leader. That blood knot has held up way longer than any fg I've used and it hasn't got stuck in a cast once.
Good video! If there is ever an audition for “Napoleon Dynamite 2” you should give it a shot:)
Alberto knot is way easier
Any knot would work.. literally any knot.. even a made up knot..lol
I keep it simple unless I'm fishing offshore
as a firefighter and a rope rescue tech. its a proven fact the more wraps and bends and loops in rope (or line) the weaker the knot. simple is stronger.
"functionable?"
Godamn that’s drama