Hi guys! I can confirm the validity of this strategy even after the Arms Against Tyranny update. The changes do not affect this strategy directly. Also, Make sure not to miss the first part of this guide, to see how we got to this point: th-cam.com/video/JHBp4gnahJ8/w-d-xo.html For all of my guides I also always make dedicated spreadsheets which include, in addition to focuses and researches, a list of all the steps required in order to succeed. These spreadsheets are exclusive to the members (Colonel rank) of the channel, in addition to several other perks! Becoming a member is mainly a way to show your support to the channel and to help keeping it alive and active. If you are interested, or if you wish to help the channel, you can become a member and get access to all perks through this link: th-cam.com/channels/1c01Sz-D_aNEUEbUBxwUJQ.htmljoin For even more exclusive content, make sure to join our: Discord server: discord.gg/e5WQFf5qDr Instagram: instagram.com/machiavellianstrategist USEFUL LINKS --------------------------------------------------- My latest templates & designs: th-cam.com/play/PLY4d0TUsYg8KCFGQl9nYPjFnXN0N5ERze.html All of my country guides: th-cam.com/play/PLY4d0TUsYg8LQ6kW3_94GhRJaHn3ZlalP.html The other episodes in this series: th-cam.com/play/PLY4d0TUsYg8JljvUcGK1Knw76PKI0rgkk.html
@@alexist.4601 hi! You may be interested in this video: th-cam.com/video/BVAuwa7BewQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared It is not exactly a guide but it is the run in which I tested my Italian strategy after AAT. I'll also try to answer some of your questions /doubts: Germany is supposed to occupy Poland and even France during the war, the reason we send our divisions is just to get ourselves some warscore for the peace conference. North Africa is largely irrelevant too and, once again, we only use it to improve our score. The solidity of this strategy stands in the fact that we really don't need to do anything special while Germany carries us through the war. The only thing we absolutely must do is invading the UK to end the war before the US join. How well we do during the war only determines how many territories we can claim in the peace conference, the bare minimum being all of the costal ones required for the Roman Empire!
Something else I just remembered you can do during the invasion of the UK is turn off supplies from each port for allies, i.e., GER, etc. This slows or even stops them from sending any forces over, as they won't have many supplies to draw on. I just got my best war score so far, 67%. Sinking convoys helped a little, but not as much as I was hoping.
That's smart too! Although the invasion of the UK is usually very easy in my experience. 67% is great btw! And what you are not getting in that peace conference you will take from the Axis in the next one hehe!
As long as I don't miss anything! lol I hate peace conferences. Paradox's addition of this really has made things more complicated, and not in a fun way, IMHO. @@MachiavellianStrategist
@@garyjohnson3252 I hate peace conferences too because they are not very intuitive, and because they lack some quality of life things (like puppet all, take all war reparations, take all resource rights).
I can't tell you how charming it is to hear you talking about italian places and units with your italian accent. Makes this a lot of fun. I don't have any DLC - is it still possible to recreate the roman empire without spies or the sophisticated re-integration features?
Thank you! I believe you can follow most of the guide without dlcs, and spies are definitely not needed. The main issue will be with focuses. Sadly, as far as I know, without either "waking the tiger" or "by blood alone" you will not be able to unlock the decision to reform the Roman Empire. As for many paradox games, dlcs tend to become quite vital as time goes by.
@@MachiavellianStrategistthe dlc less italian tree still allows you to form greater italy, not sure but the focus for rome should also still be there with no dlcs, alternatively you can pull a napoli and steal (pirate) the dlcs lol
@@thefedezboy due to the absolute dominium of the empire of politically correct, I must officially dissociate myself from territorial stereotypes and piracy. That being said, there is some truth in what was said.
Paradox, the game developer, missed something about cargo ships: Cargo ships have a limited lifespan, even when not taking war into account. Sailing ships made during the 19th Century for trade between continents plied the seas on a commercial basis into the 1920s in the Pacific Ocean because they could still make an operating profit, but ultimately were replaced by steamships when lost at sea or were retired after an inspection revealed a problem that was not economical to repair. The great passenger steamships of the 1930s that survived WW2 were almost universally unseaworthy or uneconomical some 60 years on in the 1990s. Once built, a ship has a limited lifespan, partly determined by random events. The steamship Titanic for example infamously sank after scraping against an iceberg at night on its first voyage from the British isles to North America, and thus did not survive long enough to celebrate its 1-year anniversary of its first trip from the island of Great Britain to the island of Ireland. Something that Paradox might do is institute a ship cargo ship loss formula to somewhat emulate real life real life ship disasters and ship retirements. Once a year, any country with more than 20 sea convoys, whether or not in use, might under such a system have its convoys integer multiplied left to right by 63/64. Also, transfer of more than 20 sea convoys to another country would be interger multiplied left to right by 63/64. The idea here is that ships sent to another country would tend to be older ships that might have been already kept in use too long, and that an inspector would retire some such ships. (Such a transfer multiplication would also partly avoid a potential game exploit where ships might get sent at just the right time of year to avoid the annual 63/64 multiplication.) Example: You have 2,000 convoys on December 31 1940. Since 2000 is more than 20, 2000 * 63 / 64 = 126000 / 64 = 1968, which is 32 less ships than 2000. In most cases, autonomy points in a puppet can usually also be partly reduced by building a cheap level 1 anti-air facility or by building a cheap level 1 airfield, which becomes yours if you annex your puppet. Short version: It is a little bit of a forced game exploit to have sea transports that have an infinite natural lifespan. Paradox should put some type of reasonable cap on cargo ship natural lifespan in Hearts of Iron 4. A system of a once a year left to right multiplication by 63 / 64 is one such possible scheme for assigning a reasonable lifespan to cargo ships, a scheme that gives a cargo ship an average lifespan of about 64 years, but other schemes can be put in place as well, and realistically 64 years is too long of an average natural cargo ship lifespan anyway, but is still much more realistic than an infinite natural lifespan.
I agree that is not very accurate, but Paradox probably tried not to make it too complex. There is already a lot going on in this game, and convoys are not a big part of it in my opinion. I also agree that it is a bit of an exploit to use this system to annex puppets, buildings are indeed a valid and more "honest" alternative. But, just in case, it's good to know this system works too!
Another fantastic guide, and thank you for preparing it in English. Is there any particular reason for wanting to keep Vichy France around or is it purely personal choice?
Thank you! It is not a huge difference, but by annexing it in a later war you can save some points in the peace conference at the end of WW2 and make sure Germany does not get any of their territories.
Italy is so OP in this game, I never had it difficult, without even touching the Romanian Empire. My only issue (I know, I know, you see it coming...) is how we can succeed with the Italian navy in the Mediterranean. The RN is quite powerful, as is the French fleet. But sinking these task forces is so rewarding. Also, since, you're allied with Germany: I advise you always invade the UK from Weser-Ems city: this way you attack from the east, you cross two sea zones less defended and you don't lose as many ships than if you attack straight through the Channel. I always play ironman so I have no save: this way I'm sure I don't have a disaster.
I agree, attacking from Germany is a little safer and there are no real disadvantages, so it might be the best choice if playing Ironman. Destroying the RN and the French fleet with Italy is surely possible with a proper dedicated setup and with naval bombers. It could make for a fun challenge, and it is surely satisfying. However, it is not usually in our best interests (unless we plan to go for a more historical WWII without an early UK invasion). Since the RN and the French fleet are going to become ours in the peace conference, the less we damage them the more we get!
Next Italy game go the democratic king Path, you can easily reform the EU and either the roman empire for max cores or greater italy for epic buffs and best nation color in the game ong
@@MachiavellianStrategist democratic king is op because you can still access the fascist diplomacy branch, allowing you to get "italian irredentism" and be able to justify on other democracies as well as getting some free wargoals
Hi, under this video you can find the most updated research and focus priority list: th-cam.com/video/v51y2X5Fz-k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aw73Mv5N4ZBXByoA When the list ends it is because the important ones are all covered and the rest is free/situational
Let it go it's alright, we don't need it to restore the Roman Empire. After restoring the Roman Empire I usually go after the Axis, you can get them then. But it's not mandatory.
For the warscore the most important things are: - actively using your fighters to destroy as many enemy planes as possible. Prioritize regions with many enemy planes over supporting your own troops. - pushing everywhere together with Germany (get the claim on Poland so that you can start attacking them as soon as Germany does). Push in Africa, France and Syria from the very beginning. - casualties are actually good for the final score, both the ones you cause and the ones you take. Once we reform the Roman Empire we will never have to worry about manpower again. - The Invasion of the UK, Iraq and Iran are perfect to grind some more warscore, as Germany will not be involved. Finally, consider that the final warscore depends on a few things, you should aim to 50%+ The 70% in my run is particularly good, but 40% is a bit low. But as long as you get everything you need for the Roman Empire, it is fine!
@@salfra9272 hehe Italy can become so powerful to trivialize the mid-late game in every run! But it is still a lot of fun in my opinion! It is also a great choice for anyone learning the game. In this kind of games I do not like changing the game difficulty because it usually feels artificial (it's not that the AI plays better, they simply get bonuses and you get maluses). But I heard that there are some very good mods for higher difficulties, I might try them out one day!
Hi guys! I can confirm the validity of this strategy even after the Arms Against Tyranny update. The changes do not affect this strategy directly.
Also, Make sure not to miss the first part of this guide, to see how we got to this point: th-cam.com/video/JHBp4gnahJ8/w-d-xo.html
For all of my guides I also always make dedicated spreadsheets which include, in addition to focuses and researches, a list of all the steps required in order to succeed.
These spreadsheets are exclusive to the members (Colonel rank) of the channel, in addition to several other perks!
Becoming a member is mainly a way to show your support to the channel and to help keeping it alive and active.
If you are interested, or if you wish to help the channel, you can become a member and get access to all perks through this link:
th-cam.com/channels/1c01Sz-D_aNEUEbUBxwUJQ.htmljoin
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@@alexist.4601 hi! You may be interested in this video: th-cam.com/video/BVAuwa7BewQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
It is not exactly a guide but it is the run in which I tested my Italian strategy after AAT.
I'll also try to answer some of your questions /doubts:
Germany is supposed to occupy Poland and even France during the war, the reason we send our divisions is just to get ourselves some warscore for the peace conference.
North Africa is largely irrelevant too and, once again, we only use it to improve our score.
The solidity of this strategy stands in the fact that we really don't need to do anything special while Germany carries us through the war. The only thing we absolutely must do is invading the UK to end the war before the US join.
How well we do during the war only determines how many territories we can claim in the peace conference, the bare minimum being all of the costal ones required for the Roman Empire!
thanks to your guides i have gotten many achievements. thank you! this roman empire strategy is very overpowered.
Thank you! It's not the fastest strategy but it is very consistent and easy to follow!
Something else I just remembered you can do during the invasion of the UK is turn off supplies from each port for allies, i.e., GER, etc. This slows or even stops them from sending any forces over, as they won't have many supplies to draw on. I just got my best war score so far, 67%. Sinking convoys helped a little, but not as much as I was hoping.
That's smart too! Although the invasion of the UK is usually very easy in my experience.
67% is great btw! And what you are not getting in that peace conference you will take from the Axis in the next one hehe!
As long as I don't miss anything! lol I hate peace conferences. Paradox's addition of this really has made things more complicated, and not in a fun way, IMHO. @@MachiavellianStrategist
@@garyjohnson3252 I hate peace conferences too because they are not very intuitive, and because they lack some quality of life things (like puppet all, take all war reparations, take all resource rights).
I can't tell you how charming it is to hear you talking about italian places and units with your italian accent. Makes this a lot of fun. I don't have any DLC - is it still possible to recreate the roman empire without spies or the sophisticated re-integration features?
Thank you!
I believe you can follow most of the guide without dlcs, and spies are definitely not needed. The main issue will be with focuses. Sadly, as far as I know, without either "waking the tiger" or "by blood alone" you will not be able to unlock the decision to reform the Roman Empire.
As for many paradox games, dlcs tend to become quite vital as time goes by.
@@MachiavellianStrategistthe dlc less italian tree still allows you to form greater italy, not sure but the focus for rome should also still be there with no dlcs, alternatively you can pull a napoli and steal (pirate) the dlcs lol
@@thefedezboy due to the absolute dominium of the empire of politically correct, I must officially dissociate myself from territorial stereotypes and piracy. That being said, there is some truth in what was said.
For the first time, i finished WWII by following this guide, tysm c:
Really glad to hear that it was helpful! Great job by the way!
Thanks for the Guide, I'll definitely try this out soon!
You are welcome! Let me know how it goes!
Another great guide good work
Thank you!!
Have you considered doing a papal states video guide?
@@daniellamberti7453 yes! It will most likely be my next video dedicated to Italy!
Paradox, the game developer, missed something about cargo ships: Cargo ships have a limited lifespan, even when not taking war into account. Sailing ships made during the 19th Century for trade between continents plied the seas on a commercial basis into the 1920s in the Pacific Ocean because they could still make an operating profit, but ultimately were replaced by steamships when lost at sea or were retired after an inspection revealed a problem that was not economical to repair.
The great passenger steamships of the 1930s that survived WW2 were almost universally unseaworthy or uneconomical some 60 years on in the 1990s.
Once built, a ship has a limited lifespan, partly determined by random events. The steamship Titanic for example infamously sank after scraping against an iceberg at night on its first voyage from the British isles to North America, and thus did not survive long enough to celebrate its 1-year anniversary of its first trip from the island of Great Britain to the island of Ireland.
Something that Paradox might do is institute a ship cargo ship loss formula to somewhat emulate real life real life ship disasters and ship retirements. Once a year, any country with more than 20 sea convoys, whether or not in use, might under such a system have its convoys integer multiplied left to right by 63/64.
Also, transfer of more than 20 sea convoys to another country would be interger multiplied left to right by 63/64. The idea here is that ships sent to another country would tend to be older ships that might have been already kept in use too long, and that an inspector would retire some such ships. (Such a transfer multiplication would also partly avoid a potential game exploit where ships might get sent at just the right time of year to avoid the annual 63/64 multiplication.)
Example: You have 2,000 convoys on December 31 1940. Since 2000 is more than 20,
2000 * 63 / 64 =
126000 / 64 =
1968, which is 32 less ships than 2000.
In most cases, autonomy points in a puppet can usually also be partly reduced by building a cheap level 1 anti-air facility or by building a cheap level 1 airfield, which becomes yours if you annex your puppet.
Short version: It is a little bit of a forced game exploit to have sea transports that have an infinite natural lifespan. Paradox should put some type of reasonable cap on cargo ship natural lifespan in Hearts of Iron 4. A system of a once a year left to right multiplication by 63 / 64 is one such possible scheme for assigning a reasonable lifespan to cargo ships, a scheme that gives a cargo ship an average lifespan of about 64 years, but other schemes can be put in place as well, and realistically 64 years is too long of an average natural cargo ship lifespan anyway, but is still much more realistic than an infinite natural lifespan.
I agree that is not very accurate, but Paradox probably tried not to make it too complex. There is already a lot going on in this game, and convoys are not a big part of it in my opinion.
I also agree that it is a bit of an exploit to use this system to annex puppets, buildings are indeed a valid and more "honest" alternative.
But, just in case, it's good to know this system works too!
Thx for the italy tutorial in HOI4
You are welcome!
Another fantastic guide, and thank you for preparing it in English. Is there any particular reason for wanting to keep Vichy France around or is it purely personal choice?
Thank you!
It is not a huge difference, but by annexing it in a later war you can save some points in the peace conference at the end of WW2 and make sure Germany does not get any of their territories.
Hmm yes the resurgence of Roma invicta🇮🇹🗿👌 😎👍
The invincible Roman Empire is back!
Italy is so OP in this game, I never had it difficult, without even touching the Romanian Empire.
My only issue (I know, I know, you see it coming...) is how we can succeed with the Italian navy in the Mediterranean. The RN is quite powerful, as is the French fleet. But sinking these task forces is so rewarding.
Also, since, you're allied with Germany: I advise you always invade the UK from Weser-Ems city: this way you attack from the east, you cross two sea zones less defended and you don't lose as many ships than if you attack straight through the Channel. I always play ironman so I have no save: this way I'm sure I don't have a disaster.
I agree, attacking from Germany is a little safer and there are no real disadvantages, so it might be the best choice if playing Ironman.
Destroying the RN and the French fleet with Italy is surely possible with a proper dedicated setup and with naval bombers.
It could make for a fun challenge, and it is surely satisfying.
However, it is not usually in our best interests (unless we plan to go for a more historical WWII without an early UK invasion). Since the RN and the French fleet are going to become ours in the peace conference, the less we damage them the more we get!
Ah yes the romanIAN empire 🇷🇴
@@thefedezboy not a bad idea for a future video!
@@MachiavellianStrategist è quello che ha scritto il commentatore originale lmao
@@thefedezboy sì sì ho visto! (anche se non me ne ero accorto prima del tuo commento)
Next Italy game go the democratic king Path, you can easily reform the EU and either the roman empire for max cores or greater italy for epic buffs and best nation color in the game ong
I was thinking about a fascist UK for EU + US cores for a future run! But Italy's EU could be fun too
@@MachiavellianStrategist democratic king is op because you can still access the fascist diplomacy branch, allowing you to get "italian irredentism" and be able to justify on other democracies as well as getting some free wargoals
I want to see how you finish this! Greetings from Argentina
I'll continue this run as soon as I can!
Thank you bro can you do china ?
You are welcome!
I would like to, but probably not in the immediate future. There are some other countries I would like to cover first.
Thank you@@MachiavellianStrategist
Where can I find the research and focus priority for the WW2 part of this run. I can only find the preWW2
Hi, under this video you can find the most updated research and focus priority list: th-cam.com/video/v51y2X5Fz-k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aw73Mv5N4ZBXByoA
When the list ends it is because the important ones are all covered and the rest is free/situational
What do you do if Hungary joins the Axis and you can't take it after WWII?
Let it go it's alright, we don't need it to restore the Roman Empire.
After restoring the Roman Empire I usually go after the Axis, you can get them then. But it's not mandatory.
Lore of Restoring The Roman Empire | HOI4 Tutorial momentum 100
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How do i gain more war score i only got 40%
For the warscore the most important things are:
- actively using your fighters to destroy as many enemy planes as possible. Prioritize regions with many enemy planes over supporting your own troops.
- pushing everywhere together with Germany (get the claim on Poland so that you can start attacking them as soon as Germany does). Push in Africa, France and Syria from the very beginning.
- casualties are actually good for the final score, both the ones you cause and the ones you take. Once we reform the Roman Empire we will never have to worry about manpower again.
- The Invasion of the UK, Iraq and Iran are perfect to grind some more warscore, as Germany will not be involved.
Finally, consider that the final warscore depends on a few things, you should aim to 50%+
The 70% in my run is particularly good, but 40% is a bit low.
But as long as you get everything you need for the Roman Empire, it is fine!
very Easy mode ?
If you mean the actual game difficulty, I always play on regular. If you mean that this strategy makes the game very easy, I totally agree!
both 😂
@@salfra9272 hehe Italy can become so powerful to trivialize the mid-late game in every run! But it is still a lot of fun in my opinion! It is also a great choice for anyone learning the game.
In this kind of games I do not like changing the game difficulty because it usually feels artificial (it's not that the AI plays better, they simply get bonuses and you get maluses). But I heard that there are some very good mods for higher difficulties, I might try them out one day!
what Mod are you playing?
@@salfra9272 so far I have not played with mods, just the game with all DLCs.