Cody: "What happens if I critize The Dark Knight Rises?" Bane: "It would be extremely painful." Cody: "That doesn't sound so bad." Bane: "For your channel."
This movie's greatest strengths often get omitted for some reason. The dialogue is actually very well-written and Bane's speech in The Pit when talking to Bruce about the definition of hope and despair, is some of the best writing in a comic book movie period. It's also by far Nolan's best looking picture with some incredible cinematography and Zimmer's score utilized to perfection, make every scene vast and powerful. That scene when Batman gets chased along the Gotham streets by the police, to that epic Bat-theme, still gives me chills every time. As does the part when Batman tells Gordon that HE was his childhood hero. Wonderful scenes that almost never get mentioned.
The writing is lazy for Nolan's standards but this movie is epic as hell, gave me chills on several occasions, and made me emotional in a way that neither of the 2 other Batman movies did and because of that, it's my favorite.
I was already a huge tom hardy fan at this point but his performance of Bane rivaled Heath performance in my opinion , I know I'm on an island there but it was a performance I truly enjoyed, I loved the way he did that voice
Most people enjoyed/loved Hardy's Bane. He's typically the second most liked villain in the trilogy, and while this film has gotten a lot of flak it's still widely loved (including film critics).
With Joseph Gordon Levitts character. He felt useless because that was his purpose. At the end of the film he leaves the police force because he couldn't make a difference in the city as a cop. He could no longer work within the system anymore. He realizes his limitations and couldn't hack it.
I quite liked it whenever Tom Hardy is on-screen, he has that great menacing voice. The supporting cast is good too and I like the way the movie ended with a very cool montage calling back to the first movie. Although one of the main weaknesses in addition to the contrivances is the really long running time. This is the weakest of the Nolan Batman movies and probably the death of Heath Ledger screwed up Nolan's original concept for the movie.
I rewatched this movie recently, and I found, much to my surprise, it centers partially around the power of faith as it pertains to myth, and spirituality. People citing the way Bruce's body is healed have a valuable point in a practical sense, but it's largely metaphorical. As Bane says "I was wondering what would break first, your spirit, or your body"! The only thing that breaks is his body. Whereas his spirit, nurtured by the myth of the girl who escaped the pit, lives on. But it isn't physical prowess, or even rage, that gets him out of the hole, but the erasure of his ego. He had been doing everything for him. But in the end, it is his desire to save others, his love of his city, his families dream, that allows him to escape the Lazarus pit (named after Lazarus, the man who in Christian myth Jesus brought back from the dead) and Batman is reborn, finally, not as a man, but as an idea. An object of faith. (Hence the logo on the bridge, and the orphan kid referring to him like a guardian angel). Bane being turned into a lapdog of sorts used to frustrate me too. But when we understand that Talia represents a miracle in his eyes, a kind of angel flying free to transform the world, you understand that he did what he did for his own ideology, and at that point in the story, felt that he had played his role in fulfilling Ras's destiny, which would, as one might say is true of the apocalypse, revolves around destroying the world so that it may be reborn, order restored. In a way, that is exactly what happens.
I admit that this one has the most flaws of the trilogy but I still find it a great movie and that scene where he climbs out of the pit was very powerful for me
For the ending of the movie I think it’s a call back to the story, and is left up to the viewer whether Michael Cain is imagining Bruce Wayne there or if he actually managed not to die. Kind of an inception ending.
Is it me, or does it feel like, when it came time to do this movie, Nolan was already done with Batman? He proved with Inception that he now had the clout to make thinking man movies on a massive scale, but was obligated to finish off his take on Batman, so he just wanted to get it done so he could go on to movies like Interstellar and Dunkirk. In my opinion, this is one of Nolan's weaker films. Like Cody, I enjoyed it in the theater, but upon rewatching it several times since then, it feels overlong, overstuffed, has more than its fair share of plotholes, and an ending that I find to be really weak.
I like TDKR better than Interstellar and Dunkirk honestly. Of course he'd want to move on to different projects but when people say he only did this movie out of "obligation", There's just so many scenes (Alfred leaving, Bruce making the jump, the sewer fight with Bane, the plane sequence in the beginning) that really prove otherwise at least to me. Passionately disagree about the ending being weak, It's one of the best movie endings of all time to me.
“They punch him in the fucking back and heal his broken back…….........Fuck you” LOL funniest part of the whole review. I agree. That was the part that bugged me the most about the whole movie. I can give them the benefit of the doubt on some things, but you don’t heal a protruding vertebrae with a punch in the back, rest, and push-ups. lol The Lazarus pit would have been a better way to rejuvenate his body. I know it’s not really Christopher Nolans style to do the supernatural “out there” stuff in his movies but it would’ve made more sense for healing Bruce Wayne.
His back was dislocated, not literally broken. Aligning vertabrae heals fast since no bones were broken, and the caretaker didn't have conventional means of healing him.
also Gary Oldman during when he was making The Dark Knight trilogy was working on the Harry Potter movies which would be The Elephant in The Room I wanted to also add to that
Love the review, the only thing I disagree on is the prison jump scene, I love that whole scene and I can buy that the fear of dying is why talia and Bruce could make the jump and the others could not. Great job on this though, Cody!
Which I still don't understand. Not mentioning The Joker, where he is or what he's doing and acting like he never existed doesn't seem respectful to Ledger at all.
@@Xehanort10 well while making this movie, Nolan didn't want to recast him out of respect but if you do watch the scene with them giving Batman a statue, that's a reference and honorary tribute to Heath Ledgers Joker
15:13 a lot of people have mentioned this complaint but if you look in the distance of the shot where he reaches the top it shows a city in the background so he was close to civilization and also we’re assuming it’s been a couple weeks when he finally gets back to Gotham
my favrouite in order was #1: batman begins #2: dark Knight #3: dark Knight rises pretty much all the films are nearly flawless and amazing in their own unique way
When I went to see it back in 2012 this kid sitting behind me was saying either to his parents or older siblings "Talia. It's Talia" when she stabbed Bruce in the gut.
I think John put in the support for Bruce on the DL. Someone who secretly Bruce knows is a true friend and sees himself in John and that John is a metaphor for the role a actually robin would play for Batman
feel like the ending scene where alfred spots bruce was meant to be seen 2 ways. Bruce really survived, or Bruce didn't survive and Alfred is just envisioning the happy story he told in the beginning.
I loved The Dark Knight Rises the trilogy is good even though it has flaws. I think my problems with The Dark Knight Rises is that Alfred burly came out in the movie and how did Bruce Wayne came back to Gotham right away if he was broke and was far away. And also Thalia's death was too fake. But the ending was a great ending to the trilogy where John Blake's real name was Robin and inherits the bat cave to become the new Batman.
Also Mathew Modine is in this movie and his character is probably even more usless than Officer Blake and has far less screen time despite the fact that he's meant to be Jim Gordon's replacement which probably why everyone forgets he's in the movie
My big negative about this movie is I don't buy the fact that the suit can save batman from that fall at the end of the dark Knight but Bane is able to punch throw the armor of the batsuit no problem. Didnt buy it in the cinema, dont buy it now. Still love the movie. I think its brilliant.
I took the whole rope scene as Bruce not making it because deep down he didn't truly want to. Keep in mind that blind man told him his lack of fear of dying was what was making him fail. He felt like he had nothing to lose and he had to be reminded of what he was fighting for and that's when he did it without the rope finding both his will to live and to fight again. But I can't really defend the whole punch him heal his broken back scene. Even if that somehow worked and yes months did go by with him trying to will himself back in shape yeah Nope. Gonna need a year at least. Probably more.
That would make a badass quadrilogy!! I always used to think with myself and wonder how awesome this series could’ve been had Heath Ledger not tragically passed. I always thought that we’d see him again after Bane released everybody in an epic fourth film!
Heath Ledger passed away and it's sad, but TDKR worked on its own plenty without him. The Joker had his movie (Batman was still the center along with Gotham), Bane got his.
I like the way you think on that, plus I love series of movies when their a Quadrilogy. Depends on the series when they get to 4 that's where it feels like the story should end and we don't need anymore sequels to it. Unless it's a series like The Fast and the Furious.
@@barbarianorc8301 As much as needed to tell the right story. But there are plenty of examples of a film being a big hit and a franchise announcing a trilogy instead of simply a quality sequel. Jurassic World is a hit, so it's now a trilogy regardless if they even have enough story to tell. Look at the Terminator franchise. The last 4 films have tired to start trilogies. Why can't you just tell a great story? It's because they have an agenda to turn into a franchise and milk as much money as possible from us. Which is certainly their right, but the reason many films have been turned into trilogies has absolutely nothing to do with story. Terminator 1 & T2 are not trilogy bait. But now we can't make a Terminator film without setting things up for future films. It has to be possible to tell a Terminator story in 2 hours and not 3 films lol. And for the record I think Nolan's trilogy is an example of it actually working. But Jurassic Park Fallen Kingdom is the perfect example of stretching out to a trilogy when they don't have a quality story to tell. Hollywood has trilogy-itis.
They explained in Batman Begins that the reason he talks that way is because the suit presses on certain points of his throat, causing him to disguise his voice that way.
Something that really doesn't make any sense to me is when people say Bruce goes through the same arc twice here because he really doesn't. He doesn't build himself up to being Batman the first time, He just straps on a knee brace and pretends he never stopped. His struggles in the pit are where he actually builds himself back up to being Batman. It's not a retread at all. There's also no way in hell that Christopher Nolan would make this movie a two-parter, That's not the kind of director he is. It also really wouldn't serve the story in any real way honestly and it hurts Bruces character journey as well. TDKR pretty much holds the record for most nitpicked movie of all time.
The nitpicking is ridiculous. And it's all you ever hear about because the most online people are the ones most inclined to leave comments or make videos. Because that's most of what you see on youtube and online generally people start to think that's how most people view it. But it's quite the opposite. It got great reviews from critics and audiences. And rightfully so. It's great.
@Cody thanks for giving your thoughts on this. We felt it was for sure the weakest of Nolan's trilogy, and we did not like how little Gordon, Alfred, and Batman was in it and how they were in it, a few other grumbles aside it was a fun film but it felt it felt FAR SHORT of the original 2 classics. Thanks again for the upload.
I think Alfred helping Bruce get back into Gotham would be a great way to get around being stuck in a different country with no resources. Bruce recognizes that he is near Florence where Alfred takes his holidays. Alfred feeling guilty for turning his back on Bruce agrees to help to make up for giving up on him. Alfred uses his connections from his old MI6 career to help Bruce get back into Gotham City undetected. It also would have added more tragedy to Alfred crying at the graves of the Wayne family. Him believing that helping Bruce get back to Gotham led the last Wayne family member to his death.
This film is an extremely underrated masterpiece! It was fun, epic, and awesome! The action was great! The visuals were great! The acting was great! This movie was just a blast! I know it has a lot of plot issues, but it's just so darn fun and too darn awesome to criticize! I watch this film all the time! I hated Talia Al Ghul's death tho! Don't hate me but I'm going to give this film a 10/10! Sure it's flawed, but I honestly don't care, it's entertaining and awesome and that's all that matters!
Awesome review as always, Cody! Your Batman voice sounded like Batman impersonating Trump🤣🤣🤣 Hot take...The Dark Knight Rises is my favorite of the trilogy and my favorite superhero film
personally this movie is my favorite comic book film ever thats just me I loved Batman I loved Bane I loved the story I AM A SIMP for Anne Hathaway and had a huge crush on her Catwoman personally this movie is a 5/5 for me.
All of Gotham PD is trapped underground for 5 months? Only 3000 of them get trapped, New York City has 38,000 sworn police officers and Gotham is bigger than New York in the Nolan series. What about all the other police? That part never made sense.
The score for the films sound absolutely amazing imo... All 3 films are a classic & I really like how no film is forced & the franchise wasn't milked!!!! The only negative that bugs me a lil bit is the way Bane does, it was sort of underwhelming but nonetheless great film.
I understand a lot of criticisms for conveniences and plot holes, but this arc for Batman and the story is so good that I’m able to overlook it and still enjoy the movie.
Good review. I felt the same about Talia character. I felt that character specifically was not necessary. Other elements your right about the lack of realism (disc in back, lighting up the bridge), but those parts brought necessary emotion watching it. Disagree about the levitt character not being needed, it was an elemental character. Probably just needed some more dialogue about how he determined Bruce was Batman. But even the simple explanation I felt brought a unique connection to the characters. I find that a general theme in the film, realism gets pushed to the side for something far more emotional and interesting, like Alfred nodding and leaving when he sees him. It works because of the explanation of his dream in the first act. Overall I’m amazed at how much coherence the writers brought to the film, especially since it was so long, and the 3rd film ending a story.
I just never liked the line "So you came back to die with your city"? "No.i came back to stop you" I think they could've made that line a little more badass lol they had Batman mirror bane's permission to die line
Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy is one of my favorite trilogy but I always wonder if Heath Ledger would still be alive I wish him and Christen Bale would work as Batman and Joker they would have a interesting relationship.
This movie felt as though its script needed a few more drafts: it has a combination of wrapping up plotlines started in earlier films, as well as starting up new things that obviously won’t be continued (such as the introduction of Robin). My complaint about the sudden change of pace & tone at the two-hour mark of The Dark Knight somewhat applies here too, only it’s to virtually the entire film. It felt rather erratic in pace and self-important in its speechmaking (by both heroes and villains), with too many plot twists and reversals, and too many endings in its final twenty minutes or so; when I saw it in the theater (the only time I’ve watched it) I kept wondering if the film was done, only to realize that it wasn’t - this almost became a running joke. Having said all that, it has some good sequences of action and suspense, with the cast - as always - making the exposition and speechifying much more palatable than it ought to be. I don’t regret watching the movie but haven’t felt the urge to go back to it either. Am a big fan of Michael Caine; he’s made a huge number of movies over the last fifty-some years so there are plenty to choose. Looking back to earlier years, you’d probably like Get Carter (1971) and Mona Lisa (1986), which are pretty good crime movies; Zulu (1964) and The Man Who Would Be King (1975) are good period war pictures (the latter co-stars Sean Connery and Christopher Plummer, is directed by John Huston, and is based on a Kipling story, so it was hard to miss with that one!).
I’ll always have some appreciation for the Dark Knight Rises, working at the theater opening night seeing so many Batman fans flock to the theater even if the hours were brutal. Then going to see the movie with friends the next day on a Friday night and then going to see it again at 3 am because we were so full of energy. But I haven’t really watched it in full for 10 years, and honestly I find myself asking “why?” With majority of the decisions Nolan made. It’s not a great movie but obviously not bad in comparison to what DC has been putting out recently.
Personally I think The Dark Knight Rises is pretty under appreciated I really love this movie it’s one of my top 5 films Of All Time. I thought that it was hard to outdo The Dark Knight but in my opinion The Dark Knight Rises is second best Batman and Christopher Nolan film
Bruce getting back into Gotham isn't a plot hole, the script provided hints of how he did. Lucius Fox stated that there was 23 days left on the bomb to the special forces agents, Bruce escaping the next day and is dressed similarly to him traveling the world for 7 years poor in Batman Begins, then when he's brought to Lucius Fox he's told there's 12 hours left. Batman was later shown to be able to cross the frozen lake at night when he saves Gordon and lights up the batsignal, and in Begins it was also established that there are tunnels underneath Wayne Manor which would allow him to cross into the batcave and acquire the flashdrive for Selina Kyle.
@@CodyLeachYT I used the wrong word, but the evidence is still there in the film. Just because it isn't explicitly shown doesn't make it bad, letting the audience piece it together.
@@h.b.smith_writer Theres a difference between letting the audience piece it together and neglecting to give an explanation when it's necessary. By your logic they could tell us absolutely nothing about anything but the audience can invent the plot themselves so it's all good.
@@CodyLeachYT That's not what I'm getting at. There's the essential information given for character arcs, the world of Gotham/enough to understand what's happening, but there's certain things in all three films in the trilogy left so that people can piece together themselves. Given the hints provided in the film, there's no need for a sequence showing every mode of transportation that Bruce managed. I'm not saying this to be argumentative, wanting to clarify things that could be confusing and why that was done. In Toy Story; they don't explicitly state why Buzz freezes when he doesn't know he's a toy- but given the logic shown in-film, it makes sense why since he considers humans dangerous for their size and to blend in with the other toys. Agree to disagree though.
While DKR has some of the highest high's of Nolan's trilogy it also has some of the lowest lows. Despite some incredible moments, that 3rd act is problematic for me. Bane was such a great character. I think the final showdown and demise of Bane was disappointing.
I'm usually on board with your opinions regarding most things, and I'm not even a big defender of this movie, but Nah, that "put a coat on a young boys shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended" (paraphrasing) is SUCH a good line. I still get the same feeling when I think back to it. If he just said "Bruce Wayne" then flew away, that would be insanely bad and a missed opportunity to instead say something much deeper and memorable like what's in the movie. I can't let that one slide without saying anything. Bad take, for sure.
Another giveaway of the twist is that the prisoner actually says that the other prisoners attacked Bane. The child, even if you don't realise is a girl, is completely healthy when she escapes, so she couldn't possibly have been Bane.. and he casually mentions the "protector" and you immediately recognise the protector is actually Bane.
26:56 Joker would probably doublecross Bane at some point because that's what he does. Anyone who hires or works with any version of The Joker will get betrayed. You can't trust him.
This movie came out the same year as my first nephew was born and his birthday is tomorrow, he will be 8-years-old. Anyway, I wasn't sure about checking out the Dark Knight Rises at the time because of how it will fail to live up to expectations from the last movie. I'll admit that it sounds selfish of me to do that but it was how I felt at the time and after seeing your Nolan Batman trilogy reviews I want to buy the trilogy sets now to watch all of them than just the second movie. Thanks, Cody.
I always thought it'd be interesting if Heath Ledger had lived and his Joker was in this film, he'd be a sort of "ally" (as he's done in the past). He doesn't like being under anyone's control. And sees Gotham as his (and his playground) so if the storyline stays the same, I see Joker fighting Bane in the manner only Joker can. Chaos. Plus I'm sure he'd annoy Bane to no end lol. But he doesn't make it easy for Batman as well. Creating enough mischief that Batman has to operate on two fronts.
I hope the chemistry between Batman and Catwoman in The Batman (2022) is better than their chemistry in both Batman returns and the dark knight rises, because I don’t know about anyone else, but I found their romance in both films weren’t that great, I will admit I thought they did a slightly better job in the dark knight rises although not by much. What are your thoughts?
Their chemistry was brilliant in TDKR, most critics and audiences loved it. We got the sense of their contrasting personalities and how they were similar, her firey personality and her conflicted feelings turning into selfless love to save the good people of Gotham and to be with him.
Hunter Smith I never said the chemistry between Bruce and Selina in TDKR was bad, I just said it wasn’t that great for me, they did have good scenes together but the problem is they didn’t have enough of that, and they should’ve because at the end at the movie they end up together.
Even if they didn't do joker, they still could've introduced another villain that Batman supposedly conquered prior to tdk. I agree about the two parter.
I love Christopher Nolan like I do with Martin Scorsese I'm in favor of Martin Scorsese Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve working on a Stephen King adaptation
Warner Bros and Paramount previously collaborated on David Fincher's Zodiac which never told me that movie studios are open to collaborate with a rival studio
I wish they had made Blake be the kid in Begins that tells Batman on the balcony "It's you isn't it? The other kids won't believe me." Maybe he could've been staying with foster parents that time. I think that would've been cool.
It was wise to make Blake a new character instead of having to link him to Batman Begins (I strongly appreciate all of the links to Begins unlike some, though most do).
You forgot the glaring hole with how Bruce becomes ‘poor.’ Terrorist attack on the stock exchange, with tons of witnesses, and they just let any deals made during it go through?
I'm more about quality than quantity. I love DKR, but it had plenty of problems. I think they would have been better off tightening the script & story rather than simply adding on.
Man if only the third movie had all those villians in it, man....R.I.P. Heath ledger. And I know Tom hardy bulked up bit when side by side with Batman they looked the same size. Alot of camera tricks to make hardy look bigger in some scenes, it worked.
Warner Bros. was impressed with Memento so they gave him everything when he began working for Warner Bros. Paramount co financed Interstellar with WB Paramount and Warner Bros. announced that Christopher Nolan was in negotiations to direct Interstellar and he got a salary of of $20 million against 20% of the total gross
Wally Pfister expressed interest in shooting The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX and he had no idea on how he got a PG-13 rating on that pencil scene which nearly got an R-Rating
They don't explain how the cops who were trapped and then set free on how they didn't look exhausted after being caved in for months. Or in the chase scene, how can it be night time like in 2 minutes or less.
It is probably Maggie Gyllenhaal's face that Christian Bale can't have chemistry, and Katie Homes, Anne Hathaway are prettier. Sorry! Saying it how it is.
Cody: "What happens if I critize The Dark Knight Rises?"
Bane: "It would be extremely painful."
Cody: "That doesn't sound so bad."
Bane: "For your channel."
lmao
I disagree with him on this review, but I still think he's awesome nontheless.
Haaaaa!
Honestly this is my favorite out of the trilogy, bane is amazing, tom hardy owned that role
This movie's greatest strengths often get omitted for some reason. The dialogue is actually very well-written and Bane's speech in The Pit when talking to Bruce about the definition of hope and despair, is some of the best writing in a comic book movie period. It's also by far Nolan's best looking picture with some incredible cinematography and Zimmer's score utilized to perfection, make every scene vast and powerful. That scene when Batman gets chased along the Gotham streets by the police, to that epic Bat-theme, still gives me chills every time. As does the part when Batman tells Gordon that HE was his childhood hero. Wonderful scenes that almost never get mentioned.
Agreed 100%. But this is a divisive film in Nolan's filmography
Yes. The film's flaws get overstated and its numerous great elements are largely ignored.
Even with all the flaws, I still really enjoy this movie
The writing is lazy for Nolan's standards but this movie is epic as hell, gave me chills on several occasions, and made me emotional in a way that neither of the 2 other Batman movies did and because of that, it's my favorite.
It is so lazy I am convinced David S. Goyer had more to do with the writing than just a co-write story credit.
Yet the weakest in the trilogy to most ppl is Batman begans. This film was great and a good way to end things
I love this movie, it's a 10/10 for me.
I love the 3 Nolan Batman films.
Michelle Pfeifer will always be my Catwoman. 🐈
Eartha Kitt
This one reminded me more of the one from the comics (a bit).
I was already a huge tom hardy fan at this point but his performance of Bane rivaled Heath performance in my opinion , I know I'm on an island there but it was a performance I truly enjoyed, I loved the way he did that voice
Most people enjoyed/loved Hardy's Bane. He's typically the second most liked villain in the trilogy, and while this film has gotten a lot of flak it's still widely loved (including film critics).
With Joseph Gordon Levitts character. He felt useless because that was his purpose. At the end of the film he leaves the police force because he couldn't make a difference in the city as a cop. He could no longer work within the system anymore. He realizes his limitations and couldn't hack it.
First day of school tomorrow. You and your Batman voice are helping me get through it. Thanks
Dale Strunk I had my first day of high School today!
The Tyliek Show damn! Hope it wasn’t too weird
I hope you have a great first day dale 👍🏻
Bob Lent thanks Bob!
The Tyliek Show I begin school in on the 3rd but I’m not going back to school
Far from flawless, but still an enjoyable film
I quite liked it whenever Tom Hardy is on-screen, he has that great menacing voice. The supporting cast is good too and I like the way the movie ended with a very cool montage calling back to the first movie. Although one of the main weaknesses in addition to the contrivances is the really long running time. This is the weakest of the Nolan Batman movies and probably the death of Heath Ledger screwed up Nolan's original concept for the movie.
No way man, Jaws: The Revenge had the best Michael Caine performance
Too right👍 he got the Oscar for the wrong movie 😄
I rewatched this movie recently, and I found, much to my surprise, it centers partially around the power of faith as it pertains to myth, and spirituality.
People citing the way Bruce's body is healed have a valuable point in a practical sense, but it's largely metaphorical. As Bane says "I was wondering what would break first, your spirit, or your body"! The only thing that breaks is his body. Whereas his spirit, nurtured by the myth of the girl who escaped the pit, lives on. But it isn't physical prowess, or even rage, that gets him out of the hole, but the erasure of his ego. He had been doing everything for him. But in the end, it is his desire to save others, his love of his city, his families dream, that allows him to escape the Lazarus pit (named after Lazarus, the man who in Christian myth Jesus brought back from the dead) and Batman is reborn, finally, not as a man, but as an idea. An object of faith. (Hence the logo on the bridge, and the orphan kid referring to him like a guardian angel).
Bane being turned into a lapdog of sorts used to frustrate me too. But when we understand that Talia represents a miracle in his eyes, a kind of angel flying free to transform the world, you understand that he did what he did for his own ideology, and at that point in the story, felt that he had played his role in fulfilling Ras's destiny, which would, as one might say is true of the apocalypse, revolves around destroying the world so that it may be reborn, order restored. In a way, that is exactly what happens.
Wow. Great comment!
@@VizzyBon3 thanks!
I admit that this one has the most flaws of the trilogy but I still find it a great movie and that scene where he climbs out of the pit was very powerful for me
That fatality joke was hilarious 😂
The Nokia trailer is still one of the best trailers I've ever seen..
The Nokia trailer?? Are you talking about the Man of Steel Nokia trailer? That was the greatest fcking trailer ever!!
For the ending of the movie I think it’s a call back to the story, and is left up to the viewer whether Michael Cain is imagining Bruce Wayne there or if he actually managed not to die. Kind of an inception ending.
That is one interpretation but it’s heavily implied that Bruce lives
Is it me, or does it feel like, when it came time to do this movie, Nolan was already done with Batman? He proved with Inception that he now had the clout to make thinking man movies on a massive scale, but was obligated to finish off his take on Batman, so he just wanted to get it done so he could go on to movies like Interstellar and Dunkirk.
In my opinion, this is one of Nolan's weaker films. Like Cody, I enjoyed it in the theater, but upon rewatching it several times since then, it feels overlong, overstuffed, has more than its fair share of plotholes, and an ending that I find to be really weak.
I like TDKR better than Interstellar and Dunkirk honestly. Of course he'd want to move on to different projects but when people say he only did this movie out of "obligation", There's just so many scenes (Alfred leaving, Bruce making the jump, the sewer fight with Bane, the plane sequence in the beginning) that really prove otherwise at least to me.
Passionately disagree about the ending being weak, It's one of the best movie endings of all time to me.
“They punch him in the fucking back and heal his broken back…….........Fuck you” LOL funniest part of the whole review.
I agree. That was the part that bugged me the most about the whole movie. I can give them the benefit of the doubt on some things, but you don’t heal a protruding vertebrae with a punch in the back, rest, and push-ups. lol The Lazarus pit would have been a better way to rejuvenate his body. I know it’s not really Christopher Nolans style to do the supernatural “out there” stuff in his movies but it would’ve made more sense for healing Bruce Wayne.
His back was dislocated, not literally broken. Aligning vertabrae heals fast since no bones were broken, and the caretaker didn't have conventional means of healing him.
Hunter Smity back to argue with every single person who doesnt think the trilogy is flawless. Lol
@@CodyLeachYT I will have to agree with the way Bane went out. I would've preferred one last fight before Catwoman came and saved Batman.
@@CodyLeachYT I don't think they're literally "flawless", no film is.
@@h.b.smith_writer pulp fiction , Godfather 1&2
also Gary Oldman during when he was making The Dark Knight trilogy was working on the Harry Potter movies which would be The Elephant in The Room I wanted to also add to that
Love the review, the only thing I disagree on is the prison jump scene, I love that whole scene and I can buy that the fear of dying is why talia and Bruce could make the jump and the others could not. Great job on this though, Cody!
they omitted any mention of The Joker out of respect for Heath Ledger
Which I still don't understand. Not mentioning The Joker, where he is or what he's doing and acting like he never existed doesn't seem respectful to Ledger at all.
@@Xehanort10 well while making this movie, Nolan didn't want to recast him out of respect but if you do watch the scene with them giving Batman a statue, that's a reference and honorary tribute to Heath Ledgers Joker
I may be in the minority, but this one is my favorite of the three.
this my is probably my second favorite of the trilogy. Also bane is awesome. He's definitely my second favorite villain in this trilogy
They tried to have Blake be a combination of all the first three Robins. Greyson, Todd and Drake.
You have me cracking up with the voice especially when he reveals his identity with Gordon 😂 I have never realized that before
15:13 a lot of people have mentioned this complaint but if you look in the distance of the shot where he reaches the top it shows a city in the background so he was close to civilization and also we’re assuming it’s been a couple weeks when he finally gets back to Gotham
my favrouite in order was
#1: batman begins
#2: dark Knight
#3: dark Knight rises
pretty much all the films are nearly flawless and amazing in their own unique way
after The Dark Knight he worked on his long gestating concepts which was Inception a classic
I knew she was Talia the very moment she was introduced.
When I went to see it back in 2012 this kid sitting behind me was saying either to his parents or older siblings "Talia. It's Talia" when she stabbed Bruce in the gut.
Yes! It is VERY obvious to anyone who's a fan.
I remember waiting to see this going from 8th grade to high school this was my most highly awaited movie back when it came out
I think John put in the support for Bruce on the DL. Someone who secretly Bruce knows is a true friend and sees himself in John and that John is a metaphor for the role a actually robin would play for Batman
feel like the ending scene where alfred spots bruce was meant to be seen 2 ways.
Bruce really survived, or Bruce didn't survive and Alfred is just envisioning the happy story he told in the beginning.
I loved The Dark Knight Rises the trilogy is good even though it has flaws. I think my problems with The Dark Knight Rises is that Alfred burly came out in the movie and how did Bruce Wayne came back to Gotham right away if he was broke and was far away. And also Thalia's death was too fake. But the ending was a great ending to the trilogy where John Blake's real name was Robin and inherits the bat cave to become the new Batman.
Also Mathew Modine is in this movie and his character is probably even more usless than Officer Blake and has far less screen time despite the fact that he's meant to be Jim Gordon's replacement which probably why everyone forgets he's in the movie
Tom Hardy also appeared in Star Trek:Nemesis as Shinzon and he appeared in Layer Cake
Karanvir Kooner
Tom Hardy was really good in Star Trek: Nemesis
Daimon Atkins yes he is
I really like that idea actually with Joker sitting in the cell and then after to be released once again. I really miss Heath Ledger a lot
My big negative about this movie is I don't buy the fact that the suit can save batman from that fall at the end of the dark Knight but Bane is able to punch throw the armor of the batsuit no problem. Didnt buy it in the cinema, dont buy it now.
Still love the movie. I think its brilliant.
Tom Hardy as Bane is one of the best casting decisions ever. I just can’t explain how cool he was at the time.
The way you placed Talia’s dead 🤣🤣🤣great and so true hahaha
Nolan at some point wanted to have Riddler in the movie and played by Leo DiCap
The Dark Knight trilogy is still up there with the Indiana Jones trilogy The LOTR trilogy and The Planet of The Apes trilogy
@Jordan Vance the one starring Andy Serkis
I took the whole rope scene as Bruce not making it because deep down he didn't truly want to. Keep in mind that blind man told him his lack of fear of dying was what was making him fail. He felt like he had nothing to lose and he had to be reminded of what he was fighting for and that's when he did it without the rope finding both his will to live and to fight again. But I can't really defend the whole punch him heal his broken back scene. Even if that somehow worked and yes months did go by with him trying to will himself back in shape yeah Nope. Gonna need a year at least. Probably more.
That would make a badass quadrilogy!! I always used to think with myself and wonder how awesome this series could’ve been had Heath Ledger not tragically passed. I always thought that we’d see him again after Bane released everybody in an epic fourth film!
Heath Ledger passed away and it's sad, but TDKR worked on its own plenty without him. The Joker had his movie (Batman was still the center along with Gotham), Bane got his.
I like the way you think on that, plus I love series of movies when their a Quadrilogy. Depends on the series when they get to 4 that's where it feels like the story should end and we don't need anymore sequels to it. Unless it's a series like The Fast and the Furious.
That's not who Christopher Nolan is.
@Collin 02456 How far do you think a series of movies should go?
@@barbarianorc8301 As much as needed to tell the right story. But there are plenty of examples of a film being a big hit and a franchise announcing a trilogy instead of simply a quality sequel. Jurassic World is a hit, so it's now a trilogy regardless if they even have enough story to tell.
Look at the Terminator franchise. The last 4 films have tired to start trilogies. Why can't you just tell a great story? It's because they have an agenda to turn into a franchise and milk as much money as possible from us. Which is certainly their right, but the reason many films have been turned into trilogies has absolutely nothing to do with story. Terminator 1 & T2 are not trilogy bait. But now we can't make a Terminator film without setting things up for future films. It has to be possible to tell a Terminator story in 2 hours and not 3 films lol.
And for the record I think Nolan's trilogy is an example of it actually working. But Jurassic Park Fallen Kingdom is the perfect example of stretching out to a trilogy when they don't have a quality story to tell. Hollywood has trilogy-itis.
I have rewatched this video for Cody's batman impression
They explained in Batman Begins that the reason he talks that way is because the suit presses on certain points of his throat, causing him to disguise his voice that way.
Something that really doesn't make any sense to me is when people say Bruce goes through the same arc twice here because he really doesn't. He doesn't build himself up to being Batman the first time, He just straps on a knee brace and pretends he never stopped. His struggles in the pit are where he actually builds himself back up to being Batman. It's not a retread at all. There's also no way in hell that Christopher Nolan would make this movie a two-parter, That's not the kind of director he is. It also really wouldn't serve the story in any real way honestly and it hurts Bruces character journey as well.
TDKR pretty much holds the record for most nitpicked movie of all time.
The nitpicking is ridiculous. And it's all you ever hear about because the most online people are the ones most inclined to leave comments or make videos. Because that's most of what you see on youtube and online generally people start to think that's how most people view it. But it's quite the opposite. It got great reviews from critics and audiences. And rightfully so. It's great.
It's fine for people online to believe what they want about it. But I will agree with Spencer.
@Cody thanks for giving your thoughts on this. We felt it was for sure the weakest of Nolan's trilogy, and we did not like how little Gordon, Alfred, and Batman was in it and how they were in it, a few other grumbles aside it was a fun film but it felt it felt FAR SHORT of the original 2 classics. Thanks again for the upload.
I think Alfred helping Bruce get back into Gotham would be a great way to get around being stuck in a different country with no resources. Bruce recognizes that he is near Florence where Alfred takes his holidays. Alfred feeling guilty for turning his back on Bruce agrees to help to make up for giving up on him. Alfred uses his connections from his old MI6 career to help Bruce get back into Gotham City undetected. It also would have added more tragedy to Alfred crying at the graves of the Wayne family. Him believing that helping Bruce get back to Gotham led the last Wayne family member to his death.
Bruce Wayne was in the pit for about 6 months wich is more than enough time for a broken back to heal
This film is an extremely underrated masterpiece! It was fun, epic, and awesome! The action was great! The visuals were great! The acting was great! This movie was just a blast! I know it has a lot of plot issues, but it's just so darn fun and too darn awesome to criticize! I watch this film all the time! I hated Talia Al Ghul's death tho! Don't hate me but I'm going to give this film a 10/10! Sure it's flawed, but I honestly don't care, it's entertaining and awesome and that's all that matters!
Awesome review as always, Cody! Your Batman voice sounded like Batman impersonating Trump🤣🤣🤣 Hot take...The Dark Knight Rises is my favorite of the trilogy and my favorite superhero film
personally this movie is my favorite comic book film ever thats just me
I loved Batman
I loved Bane
I loved the story
I AM A SIMP for Anne Hathaway and had a huge crush on her Catwoman
personally this movie is a 5/5 for me.
All of Gotham PD is trapped underground for 5 months? Only 3000 of them get trapped, New York City has 38,000 sworn police officers and Gotham is bigger than New York in the Nolan series. What about all the other police? That part never made sense.
The score for the films sound absolutely amazing imo... All 3 films are a classic & I really like how no film is forced & the franchise wasn't milked!!!! The only negative that bugs me a lil bit is the way Bane does, it was sort of underwhelming but nonetheless great film.
I expressed interest in doing a podcast with one of my friends on The Dark Knight trilogy
I understand a lot of criticisms for conveniences and plot holes, but this arc for Batman and the story is so good that I’m able to overlook it and still enjoy the movie.
Absolutely. Everyone has their own threshold for where enjoyment and logic meet.
Bane -“Shadows betray you, because they belong to me” breaks his fuckin mask.
Absolutely fuckin awesome, bane was menacing, great review Cody
Good review. I felt the same about Talia character. I felt that character specifically was not necessary. Other elements your right about the lack of realism (disc in back, lighting up the bridge), but those parts brought necessary emotion watching it. Disagree about the levitt character not being needed, it was an elemental character. Probably just needed some more dialogue about how he determined Bruce was Batman. But even the simple explanation I felt brought a unique connection to the characters. I find that a general theme in the film, realism gets pushed to the side for something far more emotional and interesting, like Alfred nodding and leaving when he sees him. It works because of the explanation of his dream in the first act.
Overall I’m amazed at how much coherence the writers brought to the film, especially since it was so long, and the 3rd film ending a story.
I just never liked the line
"So you came back to die with your city"?
"No.i came back to stop you"
I think they could've made that line a little more badass lol they had Batman mirror bane's permission to die line
Kind of Adam west territory that line
@@difference3maker36 I never minded that line, it was just Batman letting him know straightforward that he's not here to be fucked around with.
@Collin 02456 well either way,y what response they used was corny too
@Collin 02456 let bane know he's there by just getting a batarang in his arm or something lol
Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy is one of my favorite trilogy but I always wonder if Heath Ledger would still be alive I wish him and Christen Bale would work as Batman and Joker they would have a interesting relationship.
You know Batman has more than one villain in his entire rogues gallery.
This movie felt as though its script needed a few more drafts: it has a combination of wrapping up plotlines started in earlier films, as well as starting up new things that obviously won’t be continued (such as the introduction of Robin).
My complaint about the sudden change of pace & tone at the two-hour mark of The Dark Knight somewhat applies here too, only it’s to virtually the entire film. It felt rather erratic in pace and self-important in its speechmaking (by both heroes and villains), with too many plot twists and reversals, and too many endings in its final twenty minutes or so; when I saw it in the theater (the only time I’ve watched it) I kept wondering if the film was done, only to realize that it wasn’t - this almost became a running joke.
Having said all that, it has some good sequences of action and suspense, with the cast - as always - making the exposition and speechifying much more palatable than it ought to be. I don’t regret watching the movie but haven’t felt the urge to go back to it either.
Am a big fan of Michael Caine; he’s made a huge number of movies over the last fifty-some years so there are plenty to choose. Looking back to earlier years, you’d probably like Get Carter (1971) and Mona Lisa (1986), which are pretty good crime movies; Zulu (1964) and The Man Who Would Be King (1975) are good period war pictures (the latter co-stars Sean Connery and Christopher Plummer, is directed by John Huston, and is based on a Kipling story, so it was hard to miss with that one!).
Nice job on the video Cody and I still enjoy this film despite it's flaws!
I’ll always have some appreciation for the Dark Knight Rises, working at the theater opening night seeing so many Batman fans flock to the theater even if the hours were brutal. Then going to see the movie with friends the next day on a Friday night and then going to see it again at 3 am because we were so full of energy. But I haven’t really watched it in full for 10 years, and honestly I find myself asking “why?” With majority of the decisions Nolan made. It’s not a great movie but obviously not bad in comparison to what DC has been putting out recently.
Personally I think The Dark Knight Rises is pretty under appreciated I really love this movie it’s one of my top 5 films Of All Time. I thought that it was hard to outdo The Dark Knight but in my opinion The Dark Knight Rises is second best Batman and Christopher Nolan film
Bruce getting back into Gotham isn't a plot hole, the script provided hints of how he did. Lucius Fox stated that there was 23 days left on the bomb to the special forces agents, Bruce escaping the next day and is dressed similarly to him traveling the world for 7 years poor in Batman Begins, then when he's brought to Lucius Fox he's told there's 12 hours left. Batman was later shown to be able to cross the frozen lake at night when he saves Gordon and lights up the batsignal, and in Begins it was also established that there are tunnels underneath Wayne Manor which would allow him to cross into the batcave and acquire the flashdrive for Selina Kyle.
Cool. I said convenience not plot hole. And that explanation doesnt change that for me at all.
@@CodyLeachYT I used the wrong word, but the evidence is still there in the film. Just because it isn't explicitly shown doesn't make it bad, letting the audience piece it together.
@@h.b.smith_writer Theres a difference between letting the audience piece it together and neglecting to give an explanation when it's necessary. By your logic they could tell us absolutely nothing about anything but the audience can invent the plot themselves so it's all good.
@@CodyLeachYT That's not what I'm getting at. There's the essential information given for character arcs, the world of Gotham/enough to understand what's happening, but there's certain things in all three films in the trilogy left so that people can piece together themselves. Given the hints provided in the film, there's no need for a sequence showing every mode of transportation that Bruce managed. I'm not saying this to be argumentative, wanting to clarify things that could be confusing and why that was done. In Toy Story; they don't explicitly state why Buzz freezes when he doesn't know he's a toy- but given the logic shown in-film, it makes sense why since he considers humans dangerous for their size and to blend in with the other toys. Agree to disagree though.
Ranking this trilogy:
The Dark Knight (10/10)
Batman Begins (9/10)
The Dark Knight Rises (8.5/10)
While DKR has some of the highest high's of Nolan's trilogy it also has some of the lowest lows. Despite some incredible moments, that 3rd act is problematic for me.
Bane was such a great character. I think the final showdown and demise of Bane was disappointing.
I'm usually on board with your opinions regarding most things, and I'm not even a big defender of this movie, but Nah, that "put a coat on a young boys shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended" (paraphrasing) is SUCH a good line. I still get the same feeling when I think back to it. If he just said "Bruce Wayne" then flew away, that would be insanely bad and a missed opportunity to instead say something much deeper and memorable like what's in the movie. I can't let that one slide without saying anything. Bad take, for sure.
This is the weakest of the Dark Night trilogy but I also think its a damn good Batman movie and a good conclusion to this trilogy
Another giveaway of the twist is that the prisoner actually says that the other prisoners attacked Bane.
The child, even if you don't realise is a girl, is completely healthy when she escapes, so she couldn't possibly have been Bane.. and he casually mentions the "protector" and you immediately recognise the protector is actually Bane.
26:56 Joker would probably doublecross Bane at some point because that's what he does. Anyone who hires or works with any version of The Joker will get betrayed. You can't trust him.
Of course. That's to be expected and it would be awesome
I’ll be honest I had no idea this movie was divisive at all I thought it was great and it will always be great
also Tom Hardy worked with Nicholas Winding Refn on Bronson
Yeah I think Bronson is a masterpiece
Film Fanatic exactly in my line of thinking
This movie came out the same year as my first nephew was born and his birthday is tomorrow, he will be 8-years-old. Anyway, I wasn't sure about checking out the Dark Knight Rises at the time because of how it will fail to live up to expectations from the last movie. I'll admit that it sounds selfish of me to do that but it was how I felt at the time and after seeing your Nolan Batman trilogy reviews I want to buy the trilogy sets now to watch all of them than just the second movie. Thanks, Cody.
I really couldn’t get through this movie, it was on TV one day and I didn’t finish it.
I always thought it'd be interesting if Heath Ledger had lived and his Joker was in this film, he'd be a sort of "ally" (as he's done in the past). He doesn't like being under anyone's control. And sees Gotham as his (and his playground) so if the storyline stays the same, I see Joker fighting Bane in the manner only Joker can. Chaos. Plus I'm sure he'd annoy Bane to no end lol. But he doesn't make it easy for Batman as well. Creating enough mischief that Batman has to operate on two fronts.
I hope the chemistry between Batman and Catwoman in The Batman (2022) is better than their chemistry in both Batman returns and the dark knight rises, because I don’t know about anyone else, but I found their romance in both films weren’t that great, I will admit I thought they did a slightly better job in the dark knight rises although not by much. What are your thoughts?
Their chemistry was brilliant in TDKR, most critics and audiences loved it. We got the sense of their contrasting personalities and how they were similar, her firey personality and her conflicted feelings turning into selfless love to save the good people of Gotham and to be with him.
Hunter Smith I never said the chemistry between Bruce and Selina in TDKR was bad, I just said it wasn’t that great for me, they did have good scenes together but the problem is they didn’t have enough of that, and they should’ve because at the end at the movie they end up together.
I loved Bane. And yes Talia’s death was terrible.
Even if they didn't do joker, they still could've introduced another villain that Batman supposedly conquered prior to tdk. I agree about the two parter.
I love Christopher Nolan like I do with Martin Scorsese I'm in favor of Martin Scorsese Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve working on a Stephen King adaptation
Talking in the voice when there's no one else there is the same as indicating when there's no other cars on the road.
Warner Bros and Paramount previously collaborated on David Fincher's Zodiac which never told me that movie studios are open to collaborate with a rival studio
WB and Paramount have also worked together on Interstellar, Watchmen, Friday the 13th 2009, Benjamin Button, Sweeney Todd etc
Christopher Nolan's new DP Dutch Cinematographer Hoyte Van Hoytema replaced Wally Pfister on Interstellar and Dunkirk
I wish they had made Blake be the kid in Begins that tells Batman on the balcony "It's you isn't it? The other kids won't believe me." Maybe he could've been staying with foster parents that time. I think that would've been cool.
It was wise to make Blake a new character instead of having to link him to Batman Begins (I strongly appreciate all of the links to Begins unlike some, though most do).
@@h.b.smith_writer Yeah I did the math. They could've made Blake 21 or 22 since he was a rookie. And they could've made the kid 10 or 11.
You forgot the glaring hole with how Bruce becomes ‘poor.’ Terrorist attack on the stock exchange, with tons of witnesses, and they just let any deals made during it go through?
Totally agree a 2 part finale would of been amazing
Michael Brunson and also something Chris Nolan would never have done even if Ledger were alive.
I'm more about quality than quantity. I love DKR, but it had plenty of problems. I think they would have been better off tightening the script & story rather than simply adding on.
Spencer Malley your totally right but if he did decide to it would of been nice
Faz I agree with your point also
Nice Lomax impression 😂
I still can't believe Tom Hardy is Mad Max/Fury Road. What a Transformation.
Man if only the third movie had all those villians in it, man....R.I.P. Heath ledger. And I know Tom hardy bulked up bit when side by side with Batman they looked the same size. Alot of camera tricks to make hardy look bigger in some scenes, it worked.
Warner Bros. was impressed with Memento so they gave him everything when he began working for Warner Bros. Paramount co financed Interstellar with WB Paramount and Warner Bros. announced that Christopher Nolan was in negotiations to direct Interstellar and he got a salary of of $20 million against 20% of the total gross
Wally Pfister expressed interest in shooting The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX and he had no idea on how he got a PG-13 rating on that pencil scene which nearly got an R-Rating
I definitely don't think that deserved an R rating. But a very well executed scene regardless of rating
Faz yes but I read an article on how it narrowly avoided an R Rating
That shirt is amazing
They don't explain how the cops who were trapped and then set free on how they didn't look exhausted after being caved in for months. Or in the chase scene, how can it be night time like in 2 minutes or less.
Wally Pfister didn't work with Christopher Nolan on Interstellar he got replaced by the new DP Hoyte Van Hoytema a Dutch DP
Christopher Nolan visited the site of where the Dunkirk evacuation happened so he expressed interest in making a movie about the evacuation of Dunkirk
It is probably Maggie Gyllenhaal's face that Christian Bale can't have chemistry, and Katie Homes, Anne Hathaway are prettier. Sorry! Saying it how it is.
I love this movie because of Bane. I was rooting for him...