Deshaun Watson deal 'absolute disaster' for Browns, says Peter King | Pro Football Talk | NBC Sports
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- As more lawsuits trickle in and reports surface about Deshaun Watson's refusal to settle with any of his accusers, Mike Florio and Peter King take the QB to task for his stubbornness. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #DeshaunWatson
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Deshaun Watson deal 'absolute disaster' for Browns, says Peter King | Pro Football Talk | NBC Sports
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As I've said before, if the Browns want to start a winning tradition, history has proven that moving to Baltimore is the way to make that happen.
The Browns just gave away 3 1st rounders, $230 million to make Jacoby Brissett their starting QB.
...& I sincerely hope he does well, he got screwed by the pats.
I think Watson will play the whole 2022 season. IN the offseason next year, they should try to bring in a proven veteran, so if Watson is suspended, we can still win a lot of games. Don't let this hurt the team. Have a Watson v.2 (with a clean background) to play in his absence.
Lol....Jacoby Brissett isn't Deshaun Watson!! What games are you watching? College and NFL Deshaun is head and shoulders above Brisket...😂🤣
They are both black? Is that it? That's the comparison?
@@BillGraper I hope your right.
As a Browns fan, I honestly knew this would be a disaster, but this debacle is still exceeding expectations.
I used to be one till this, good luck for holding on in there. Just cant.
But at what cost the qb that played for y’all despite injury and Deshaun possibly never playing again.
@@isaiahjones1685 Deshaun possibly never playing again? I SERIOUSLY doubt that's a possibility.
@@scourge8097p
@@scourge8097 well he’s not going to play until all of these allegations are settled
All while neglecting the best QB they’ve had in years (Baker). Not that he’s Mahomes or Allen. But the Browns really screwed this.
Think of all the qb's that couldn't do anything with The Browns? Hell, Baker would probably look like Aaron Rodgers in a good organization. And that Browns "talent" around Baker was way overrated
The Browns went from a bottom 5 QB to a top 5 QB that is being MeToo blackmailed. I take it you haven't done any research on the evidence that has been available to the public.
And screwed him too. One mediocre season and partly to a depleted squad due to injury, and they threw him out in the dumpster. Baker is not completely at fault and he deserved so much better
Allen? 😂
They should have stuck with Baker... that organization is so stupid.
The most respected thing about the Browns, is they keep breaking their own personal records. Never too late to create the most Brownsiest move ever.
Of all the Charlie Brown things you have done in you life Charlie Brown, this is the Charlie Browniest"
@@briandelmore7188 NOTHING to add.
give it a year or two until they trade a bunch of draft picks to some team to get Mayfield back while still paying Watson.
@@briandelmore7188 Awesome.
Hope they go 0-17
Can't wait till Baker Mayfield heals his shoulder, signs with another team, then has a killer season.
Keep dreaming you bum
Baker is better then people think. He will win a Super Bowl somewhere else
@@adrianwinslow5707 😂😂
I am sure the shoulder is less than motivated to heal while still in Cleveland.
@@adrianwinslow5707 Baker is legit one of the most underrated qbs in the league. 2 bad seasons 2 good seasons. With the 2 bad ones one he had Freddie kitchens as coach and the worst line in the nfl. The other one he was out there playing with a broken shoulder. His rookie year he broke the touchdown record and didn’t even play the whole year. In 2020 he won the first playoff game the browns had since 94 and was pff ranked number 4 over the last 11 games.
Texans fan here...God bless the Browns for taking this disaster off our hands.
General Mills SZN
Even better, they got assets for that disaster. Better not screw up the picks
DISASTER? LOL. Davis Mills is a DISASTER. Enjoy going 4-12 for perpetuity. Dumpster fire organization.
That disaster led yall to a couple playoffs..
@@indiancarter8330 its not a superbowl. Dudes a predator
Browns deserve what they get. They had a franchise quarterback with a few issues and decided to max out this guy with a massive amount of issues.
I hope Mayfield plays all season and takes the Browns to the superbowl then the Browns will really be in a spot.
Odd that like 20 other teams in need of a franchise QB aren't beating down the Browns' doors to get the guy amirite?
Exactly
hahahahaha
Baker Mayfield is not a franchise QB
Remember they wanted an adult at quarterback 😂😂😂😂😂
Bwahahahahahahaha
He committed adultery!
@@daledickensen4950 I suppose by Jimmy's standards, that checks the block
Adult rated.
Peter had smoke coming out of his ears. “An absolute total disgrace”. Peter is done with Watson. And his emotions just may reflect what many are thinking.
Here here!
Mike was being insensitive too talking about “these cases need to go away” like bro if he did it, no they don’t
If it hadn't been for the Watson trade I might have been a browns fan for the rest of my life. Thanks for saving me that heartache, I hope this goes down in history as the worst trade ever and the entire team implodes.
It will cripple Browns for a decade they have a good overall squad why would you bring in a troubled player who might not even play at all and guarentee all that money to him beyond stupid move
Come over to the Bengals and forget that mess in Cleveland. Just can't fix stupid and the Browns owners fit that category.
I don't get it, they were one of the most likeable teams out there and this is the only thing that could have changed that, and they do it anyway
Growing up, the Browns were a religion in my family. I had to move often after college, and I would jump through a lot of hoops to watch them every Sunday (pre-modern media). But '95 sucked the life out of me. I kept thinking, "the Browns are a blue-blood franchise. They can't let them leave." While I still root for them, it has never been the same. Now I almost think, I'd rather they lose without Watson than win with him. Tone-deaf move.
Only a $230M mistake. LOL
Bless Mike Florio's lawyer brain. As long as he isn't focused on my bears he's great.
the browns are experts at finding a way to self destruct
heh. yeah. Browns are prolly at the top of that list. maybe the Jets. I feel for ya.
The DO have amazing ability to do that!
Browns fan for most of my fifty year life, and unfortunately I have to agree.
My Bears got a lot of criticism for passing on Watson in 2017. I wasn't happy at first but it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. The Bears have proven to be idiots when judging talent at the QB position time and time again but we dodged a bullet not picking him. We're still a mess but at least we didn't get stuck dealing with this disaster and having our team stuck limbo for possibly multiple years while this cringeworthy situation continues to play out.
Texans are happy. First they got a good qb, then they got a haul when they traded him.
You guys mishandled Trubitsky and it'd gonna show in Pittsburgh this year...he's a good QB if given the right situation.
I felt convinced the Browns must have had some rock-solid reason for believing Watson's legal troubles were definitely, 100%, and for sure behind him and no foolin'. What I failed to take into account was, this is the Browns. I mean, what was I thinking?! They've managed to make the Texans look shrewd and that's not easy to do.
😄😄😄
SMC, I agree 💯.
NO ONE is making the Texans look shrewd.
😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bottomline is 22 or 24 is not much different. The NFL has concluded everything and I guarantee you they know this info already. Maybe these recent 2 have an effect but i dont think much. What i thought might be 8 games has now become 10. 3 1sts are still worth it even if hes suspended the entire year.
Disagree with King on the distraction. They are unloading everything they have right now and soon itll be old news unfortunately. Better to get this out now during the rest period before minicamp then to have an HBO special come out week 1. Then id believe its a distraction.
I said when they made the trade that it could be a franchise ending type of move. I got dragged for it and people said I was a dummy. Well...here we are folks.
isn't dragged an amazing word? I love the way we use it atm. 😁
It's the Browns. Only they can make stupid moves
I remember when football drama was about a close game with a minute left in the 4th quarter.
Not in JUNE, tho
Rapistburger?
Yet you are still here watching this video.
The Browns are a joke... Watson is a joke... They deserve each other.
Definitely
You people are dummies smh.
Yeah I think they're both looking for a happy ending
Absolutely! I never thought I would say that Baker Mayfield would be the voice of reason in this entire situation, but he is.
Your Independent Critics group sounds creepy as Hell, so you have fun with that. You're just jealous because he's a more famous weirdo than you are. Get your likes while he gets millions LOL at you and the entire system.
As my Dad would have said, the Browns will find a way to mess up a one car funeral.
THe Browns are a clown-show
LMAO
🤣
That's impressively correct lol
Dad was right!
As a Falcons fan, I admit that I got excited at the thought of Watson's talent on our team. Of course I also thought these legal issues were minor and almost dealt with. That's what it sounded like at the time. Now I think we've dodged a huge bullet. We're gonna suck for awhile but that's better than dealing with Watson's circus.
I actually think the Falcons got the best quaterback in the draft. I'm a Steeler fan who celebrated not getting Watson, I don't know why any fan would want to be a part of 23 sexual misconduct allegations. I can tell you just 2 cause enough problems
I'm a saints fan we were excited at the possibility too but youre right about it all looking settled because he just beat a grand jury indictment twice so no crime was committed. Lots of things have come out since then,more will still. I know we dodged a bullet. As a division rival I watch what goes on with you guys. Theres a couple things that stand out to me. Now mind you I loved those falcons teams from the 90s deion played on I don't hate your team. I just really enjoy beating them. The first thing is I can barely name your coach and can't think of anything he has done? If you want to win you have to be aggressive and get out there and get a PROVEN HC, you hold your purse you pull up your big girl panties and you pay Jim Harbaugh whatever it takes, or you hire that Eric Bienemy and give a shot of life to your organization! 2nd did you know that over the past 5 years or so the media has successfully chosen who the falcons have picked? To me that shows a lack of draft strategy or even a solid plan that only people in the organization know,what they keep doing is just taking the best player available. Thats a bad strategy, what are they building? A team that doesnt really fit together from where I'm sitting,with no plan on how to capitalize on these athletes strengths. Or a weak plan at best. If the saints or the falcons played today idk who wed even be playing? They also have not been aggressive in the draft I guess if you have no overarching plan then just going best player available and staying put is your best option. The falcons were at their best though when they had a legendary coach in Dan reeves traded up for mike Vick when the rest of the league was scared and had a plan to use him. They played to his STRENGTHS. you all have got to get someone that has a plan man,an overall strategy and BE AGGRESSIVE! When they drafted mat Ryan their plan was to create a great passing attack once they saw he was legit. They traded up for Julio Jones I think got Calvin ridley had some other good pass catchers they picked up. When the falcons have a plan it usually WORKS when theyve had a plan they've been able to see it through and even though they fell a little short those were some great teams. Third man and this is a big problem it looks to me that the falcons have always neglected the trenches, they've never built a great offensive or defensive line. The more successful teams in the league over the last ten to 20 years have all done this. Bellicheck is constantly developing his lines in New England for about a five year period all that was available when the saints came up for draft picks was just that. Decent to great olineman the saints didn't trade out or reach for another position. They drafted those lineman over and over again. Now we have very strong offensive and defensive lines the proof is look how they went into Tampa and shut out tom for the first time in his career WITH taysom hill at QB! They won 9-0 it wasn't pretty but it was great and it'll go down in history all because of line play. Their head coach had covid and wasn't even there?! Ive watched the falcons so many times take lineman that have under performed or pass on lineman it seem to me they think that having one average to good guy or two average to good guys on both sides is enough. No,you have to invest in those lines REGULARLY. Like jimmy Johnson did in Dallas. Like mike McCarthy is doing in Dallas now,like jerry Jones has always done. Sometimes the mike Vick isnt going to fall in your lap but you still need to invest wisely with what draft capital you have. I can't eben name your guys GM and that should change. Hire a new one and swing for the fences. Your owner seems like a wonderful man. A genuinely good human being that loves his players and fans,he seems to be getting tired though,the whole organization just seems to be going through the motions. You all need to do something BOLD like hire Sean Payton regardless of what it costs . hire a proven champion and give him control. Make some unorthodox moves but DEVELOP A PLAN. the falcons have had some successbut not built on it recently. They've drafted some good DBs but not built an entire defense around them. Those dB's were what they call diamonds in the rough. They weren't top ten picks they were later picks that turned out to be good! Build on it! They signed Patterson no one knew he was that good, but he is. Trade for a deebo Samuel and have TWO players like that to pair with mariota and his running ! I felt you should have drafted a QB and you did bring in a great coach and develop a plan so u don't waste his rookie contract. Good luck I hope they get it figured out
Damn right same with Seattle i was like oh thank god
I agree. I am also a Falcons fan. With his salary and the current state of the Falcon's salary cap, I think it would have been one of the worst NFL deals since the Cowboys traded Walker to the Vikings. At least with the Browns, they have a chance to win immediately and distract from the legal issues.
The criminal charges were dropped. It doesn't matter if 100 women come forth, it's going to be difficult for them to prove their case against him.
All 23 cases in a calendar year?
Good luck with that
Just what I was thinking
Tell me why did 2 Grand Jury’s say there was no real evidence? Watson is not guilty. These women are just looking for a free ride on Watsons 💰 Money. Friggen Massage Parlor Girls. Are you kidding me?
@@ffas23
Do you really not know how anything works?
Or are you just trolling?
One week each. LoL
100k each is peanuts. Defense costs will be more than that not to mention the bad PR.
Rusty doesn't pick up the phone for less than $1 million
100k per case
he is offering that women together not even 1 month of his income.
100k is peanuts for some narcissist sexually exploiting you and others, and still being able to still cash in a $230m fully guaranteed contract from the nfl. sickening.
@@23Robusto rusty f'd everything with his quote today
I don't see how this ends well for the Browns
Maybe a super bowl 🥴
2 or 3 Ships and alot of media hating on watson no matter what
@@sancheztorres2075 Probably, but after a year suspension.
it never does
Jacoby Brissel takes the Browns to the Superbowl, and we win.
Baker looking real good right about now. . .oh wait y’all burned him and he’s not happy 🤦🏽♂️
Let’s say Watson gets suspended for the year and Jacoby whatever the hell his name is gets hurt for the season and baker is still on the team , what do the browns do?
the brown's better show him the money, lol!!!
23 civil cases 0 criminal cases 🤔
Even if he was going to settle now, why would they take $100k when he just signed that contract. Its probably a million minimum now.
Because he already beat the criminal charges and if he decides to fight this to the end they may get nothing.He was already a high multi millionaire before this deal anyway.
@@steveoshei1819 he never beat the criminal charges.... He was never given criminal charges. The courts never said "innocent", they said the evidence was too circumstantial to proceed to a court hearing. That's not "cleared of criminal charges", it's more like "this all could be true or completely made up, but nobody could prove it either way. Go have fun settling it in civil court."
@@poobs2 supreme court was not involved)
@@poobs2 in fact the bar is much lower for a grand jury to indict. It’s not just “reasonable doubt”, it’s lack of probable cause to believe a crime has been committed at all. It’s notoriously easy to get an indictment. Failure to do so is MORE indicative of a defendant’s innocence than a trial acquittal, not less so - as you seem to be trying to imply.
Ya, after hearing 230M, these chicks want to get paid. They are probably all thinking about getting millions and retiring now
When you have the kind of money that Watson has, certain… services are available. I’m certain he could have used any number of discreet escort services in Houston, but he wanted to force himself on women who weren’t down for it. Rather than pay for role play, he decided to traumatize a bunch of random women because it felt more real. What a freaking creep. I hope he never plays again.
How the hell you know white boy long as it s a black person he s guilty but if it was Big Ben he s innocent gtfoh
If what you state is fact he should've been indicted waiting to go to trial.It's very easy to indict somone who commits a crime.And why would anyone who's been assaulted like that accept 100k from a person worth 100's of millions?Some of these class action law suits are very shady.Somthimg happened but none of us should judge until we see evidence.
Is that what you think happened? These women were willing participants! Text messages, seeing him over and over again! I wish you people would do your research before just making statements!
100% correct. He's not big on the whole "consent" thing. The fact that he talks about God, Jesus, and respecting all women is even more galling.
@Deshaun “massage” Watson this act is super corny! You seem like you love to see a young black man go down on something he wasn’t indicted on! Have you people looked into the women statements under oath? Oh I didn’t think so ! Carry on !!!
Steelers fan here.... Remember big Ben got a 6 game suspension for accusations only, he was never charged or convicted for any crime at all but because it became very public that's all it took. Now 23 women are accusing Watson very publicly, if ben got 6 then he might get a full season.
He paid his accusers off.
People seem to forget how much punishment Ben really got when he was never charged. The entire city rejected him, trade talks with STLouis began and lost all endorsements. Winning the superbowl saved his career. Anything less the city would not have forgiven him. Tge media never did forgive him. He paid off civil suits but the legal charges didn't stick. Cleveland is in for a ride with 23 of them
@@passitto86 absolutely, ben was almost traded to the 49ers then but they pulled out at the last minute... And Cleveland is owned by a former minority share owner of the Steelers who is a fool, drafted Johnny manzel on a hunch and then did the same thing with baker. They are going to crash and burn.
@@janconner2087 Watson tried to pay them off to.
@@kasabianrage7487his issue isn’t resolved, correct? The NFL cannot take disciplinary action until the case is over. Otherwise it breaches the CBA. Know the business before we add personal opinion to the equation. They won’t destroy their business model for you or I
The way things are going, they need to bring in UN peacekeeping forces to deal with the Browns organization
Albert brewer said his money this year is in bonus his salary is (only) $1mil. If he is suspended for the entire year he still gets $45m!! Out of 46m, one is forfeit. Brilliant negotiation. Browns lose again.
Incredible how calculating Andrew Barry, Kevin Stefanski and Paul Depodestra had been building the team up to this disastrous decision to give so much away to get Watson.
At this point in time it doesn’t look like the deal will be seen favorably since he hasn’t performed at his elite level to this point. But if he does get back to that level then the deal was fine. They didn’t think Baker would take them to the next level so they went for a guy they thought could take them there. And the money spent isn’t ideal but they did what they had to do once they were told he wasn’t going to come to Cleveland with Baker demanding a trade. At that point they needed it to happen so they made the move they had to do. I’ll take an office that’ll go all in like that to make an attempt at being elite rather than settling for being mediocre forever. Maybe it doesn’t pan out but that’s the risk you take to be a championship team.
@@Matt-cr4vv I heard one Browns pundit say at least Watson has stayed out of trouble. That was half the concern. But he has indeed been average, at best.
The Browns deserve a QB that can get broads without paying!!!
It's a toxic situation in Cleveland. you have a qb on a historic contract who we don't even know how many games he's going to play & a former #1 overall pick qb who is stuck in limbo because teams won't trade for him & his current team won't cut him. the browns are stuck & by their own doing
Ask yourself this: If Cleveland is so confident in Watson, why won't they dump Baker?
@@thequixoticangler3364 because they are not giving him away! Baker will never play for the browns again!! Deshawn will win us a super bowl!!! Dawg pound!
@@devonnemallory5935 Love your enthusiasm but it shows the problem with Browns fans. You want a Super Bowl so bad, you're willing to hire a rapist and pay him a 1/4 billion to do it.
Give him away? Multiple teams offered 1s for him. They don't think Watson will play. Neither will Baker. You paid 240m for Jacoby Brissett.
The Browns are cool..... they were entertaining with Baker Mayfield being the Quarterback.... Man they made me laugh so hard especially with the Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs game and the San Diego Chargers game they were f****** funny man
If I were Baker I wouldn't tale another snap for Cleveland you made your bed now lie in it they deserve it for their disloyalty
100k doesn't go so far anymore... the more this draws itself out the more it seems as if it'll end in total disaster.
His career is over.
66-68k a piece
@@keenannorris3309 How you figure?
100k is nothing in 2022!!
Not to mention that all these 100k payments make him look guilty as hell.
I left the Browns fandom over this.
Kudos!
See you ✌️
@@devonnemallory5935 see ya
Nobody cares lol
Byeeeeee
I would be surprised if DW plays this year.
He should not play at all
@@wandabrowne8313
Usually I'm pro-player and I believe in innocent until proven guilty but this is just ugly.
Watson is just gross.
If Robert Kraft can continue to own a team, Deshaun Watson should continue to throw a ball.
@@JC-pp5ju Stupid comparison. Kraft was arrested for soliciting prostitution with ONE person, not allegedly sexually assaulting twenty-three!
@@EnterpriseNCC-1701 - Ya I agree dude.
Yes Mike, and those same Browns fans calling it old news are the ones that say Baker Mayfield has no talent, and kicked him to the curb last year. How long will it take till they start booing DeShaun Watson?
Yeah and there could be more and potentially as more people come forward there could be more avenues for actual criminal prosecution as well.
@Deshaun “massage” Watson i upvoted cause this is hilarious lol Bo burnhams this is how the world works is playing in my head right now.
And call Ben Roethlisberger a rapist
@Deshaun “massage” Watson Yep 😆
About the fifth in game and Watson has them 0-4, the boos will start loudly!! 230 million for this one year trick pony. Lol
Browns are always making stupid moves. This Watson move set them back 15 plus years. Good luck to those fans.
How is it stupid when 15 other teams was about to try to get him! Every sports outlet had a who will get deshawn sweepstakes when everyone knew about the allegations! But now that the browns got him it’s stupid 🤔
@@DonutDoctor it’s only stupid because you’re not a browns fan! No one was saying anything when Atlanta, Carolina and The saints wanted him! So we will see how stupid it is down the line! All this browns hate is ridiculous!!!
@@DonutDoctor how want he play for them and it's only costing them a million dollars this upcoming season if he is suspended. So please explain how it is stupid ?
@@DonutDoctor you do your research! Almost all the top quarterbacks when they sign a big contract get a million dollar base salary! Check out mahomes contact when he sighed! The browns aren’t the first or the last to do a contract like that ! It’s funny now the browns do it they are stupid?🤔
@@DonutDoctor and will play this year !
I feel like Baker will have the last laugh in this.
It would be hilarious to see Cleveland forced to start Baker and he actually plays well after getting healthy. As a Steeler fan this would be entertaining to watch.
@@passitto86 that will never happen!
I wound t play if I was baker
@@allchatgaming7107 we don’t want him!!!!!
@@devonnemallory5935 y’all don’t deserve him lol enjoy Watson idk who 3rd string is.
Watson didn't want to go to Cleveland then he was like "They'll pay me what?"...Yea I'll rob these dudes real quick, at least there's NO PRESSURE for Baker this year..
You were in the room? Sthu
@@lawrencemack6868 it was all over the media. Watson said no. He wanted to go to Miami.
if it was me, 100K to a man who just got 230mil, yeah no, how bout 1 mil, counter offer, still a bargain at 23 or 24mil
Agreed. $100k seems a little light.
They need to up it to 2 million each.
Even if you double it, 48 mil is a season
@David Montgomery But it was after he had signed the $156 million contract with Houston.
You've got the distraction, the big cap hit, and no 1st round picks to help the guy until he's 30. It's certainly not an ideal situation.
What do they need picks for? That offense is STACKED. Clown.
Nothing lasts forever, nor does good health, as we saw last year.
@@I.dont.think.you.understand you dense they aint staying they will want to get paid and will leave because he is a lot of cap. Happening to mahomes now you clown
@@I.dont.think.you.understand lmao Amari cooper who’s in and out of the lineup every week
That team is loaded
The "OLD NEWS" fans make me sick these are the same people that have (rightfully) called the former Pittsburgh QB out on his "issues" .... the Haslams have made a deal with the devil and screwed the previous QB in the process
Baker sucks he screwed himself
@@cakegetenough9642 aker will be just fine. Enjoy your mess.
@@-sensibleChris Nobody wants the guy. He may never start a game in the NFL again.
@@glennchaffin9941 Nobody wants to help the Browns. Baker will be a starter again,and probably a solid one. The other owners are not happy with the Brons, and the Browns have tipped their hand feom a business perspective anyway. Seattle, Carolina, New York, New Orleans, can all aggressively pursue him after the Browns cut him, or panic and decide to pay his salary once they realize they can't move him. They have no leverage.
@@-sensibleChris Yet none of the teams you mentioned offer a trade for Baker as of 6/4/22.
The appropriate penalty is a lifetime ban. If the penalty is only a one year suspension, that will offend their market profoundly. The NFL does not need Mr. Watson; the league did not miss him last year and they won't miss him ever again. If the NFL slaps his wrist, it will have repercussions for years to come. Michael Vick was suspended indefinitely for bankrolling dog fighting. Twenty-three civil cases will be played out in the press on TV every football weekend. Severe ties and move on.
You just dont wanna see a Black man with $230 mill......
@@3ShadesBlack5 don't be racist. besides, wasn't most of that contract guaranteed? the man already got his money. he's richer than you or i will ever be. and for whatever reason, he has sown the seeds of his own destruction with these reckless acts. he brought it on himself. and also, don't be racist ...
Florio says sometimes you have to “purchase peace.” Very few people, especially women, will see it this way. Rather, they’ll see it as hush money.
Then tell the claimants to refuse any and all offers, go to trial, and see what a jury says about who is telling the truth.
How else do you interpret it? Deshaun has publicly stated on multiple occasions that he wishes to fight the case. The fact that he has reached out for a settlement especially one with a strict NDA policy looks terrible for him.
@@unc54 he did that to get out of Houston! They were trying to railroad him and he wanted out! The dolphins wouldn’t trade for him without it! By the way it was over a year ago! It’s old news I heard about it back then. But Florio is doing his best to make him look worse!
@@devonnemallory5935 That's all he ever talks about every single day.
@@unc54 no it doesnt. His lawyers handle things.
As a lifelong Steelers fan this trade makes me laugh so hard but get very angry on two levels. One, as a female football fan. Yes Ben Roethlisberger had his mishaps as well and I was upset then too. He has nowhere near the complaints DW has. Two, Baker was doing good things for them. Your just gonna crap all over him? He played hurt and did his best. If that's not a franchise qb mentality then what is? Shame on you Cleveland in so very many ways. Deshoulda Watchedhim is more like it.
Baker is a bust. That's why they were so quick to bring Watson on board. But, it looks they did burn that bridge. So they may not even have a scrub like him to fall back on if this whole Watson gamble backfires on them.
Whyte bich he was accused of RAPE twice
Same white girl who voted in Trump tho with his allegations stfu
Lauren Capp, I agree with you....I am a forever Steelers fan...also a forever Clemson fan. Deshaun was a very good QB for Clemson. Very upsetting about all of this but I do think that the Browns & the Texans knew more than they are saying.
That being said, Here We Go Steelers!
Going to miss Big Ben very much but know that we have an amazing coach & team!!!!
This warrants an indefinite suspension with reapplication upon completion of all cases
The Browns saw the Bengals success and panicked themselves into a terrible decision.
Exactly. They knew that had to do something, they got desperate.
Now they have a top 5 QB that is being MeToo blackmailed.
As a Cowboy fan i could care less!! HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYZZZZZ 😎😎😎😎😎😎😝
Ikr people make fun of Dallas for not winning a superbowl for a couple decades but at least they aren’t the browns! Lmao
@@imusama1876 true true true
I've never heard of a massage therapist cry after a rub down. Watson has been caught lying saying he's never going to settle because he didn't do anything wrong. Now we find out Watson offered settlements. He lost credibly in the presser with the Browns when he claimed he had no idea how much the Browns were going pay him. He gets a quarter of a billion guaranteed with 23 women who gave him massages. Watson and Bob Kraft have a lot in common. Billionaires and millionaires buy justice.
Yet most Browns fans ignore this. Smdh
@@themusicmaker8455 Monday another woman is filing suit that brings it to 24. Heels are dropping out of heaven and Berry, Depodesti, the Haslams. Stefanski and every single teammate of Baker Mayfield's except for Nick Chubb deserve to keep on losing in this factory of sadness! The Browns are anti-women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤣😂😂
They really don't have the proof of DeShaun settling for anything until the Civil cases are to be determined.
So the Browns will have Watson show up at the homeless shelter and hand out blankets, and some boxed food down at the food pantry and make things all better ?
I'm just glad that the Browns passed on Josh Allen to take Baker Mayfield! Now I have never been a big fan of Mayfield in terms of overall talent. But I find it extremely hard to understand why they have treated him so badly after he played through last seasons injuries the way he did. He could have and probably should have sat out with the injuries he sustained. The Browns deserve ALL the bad Karma they get out of this mess...
Baker jeopardized the team's entire season injured himself by torpedoing his body into a defender who INTed his pass in week 2. So the Browns went from a bottom 5 QB to a top 5 QB that is being MeToo blackmailed. Baker is still with the team because nobody wants to trade for him because he is inconsistent and immature.
They should have let Mayfield rest and played Case Keenum until Baker was at 100 per cent. I don't like the way Baker Mayfield has been treated.
If their coach had any intestinal fortitude at all, yes, he would have sat Baker.
Perhaps if Mayfield had been working on his game and his body instead of making commercials ...
As a Texans fan ! Thank you Cleveland ! LOL !!
I mean… you’re still a Texan fan tho.
@@abelgarrido2871 like I said thank u Cleveland for taking Watson out of Houston ! They should of gotten baker Mayfield to ! Yeah !!! I'm a Texans fan !! Omg !!
It's possible however, that he would incur more than 2.2 million in legal fees to attempt to deal with all this in court. So if it goes to court, his financial losses could be bigger than the original settlement offer.
@California Dreaming does anyone know or did they report when the statue of limitations ends for this civil case?
He isn't very smart though. He is just stubborn and buys a good lawyer who uses him for his money. Like these women did. He is the perfect mark. Keeps throwing away his money. Lucky for him his agent did a great job using that stubborn attitude for a huge payday.
@@videospectrum09 it's 5 years.
If this don’t go away and more women keep coming to the light, the browns minus well terminate his contract
The dude had 40+ different massage therapists. This is a mess.
The Stains gonna stain. They signed up for the biggest skidmark on the face situation imaginable.
Literally no football fans care, I'm a steelers fan and idc.
Peter & Mike are spot on, good luck Cleveland
Uhmmm...
Wow... More Fake News!
I'm in Cleveland, and I've not heard this bias🤔
No one talks about the Facts, tho:
1. He's Not guilty at Any of the accusers "ALLEGATIONS" nor sexual Violations
2. No one talks about how ALL of the accusers SIGNED a NDA (that's a Non-Disclosure Agreement, btw)
3. Meaning these woman Initialed, signed & Agreed to enter the rooms with Deshaun
4. This new Public Lynching was brought about by the Houston Texas when Deshaun refused to play for them 🤔
5. Nobody speaks about how the Texans organization had Deshaun recorded during a few sessions 🤔
6. He'll still Overcome; Good Willing!!!
Uhmmm...
These Fools & other Weak men and women still Seek to Punish another INNOCENT (BLK) man 🤔
Let Each Hypocrite Cast the First Stone; especially those who've cheated or has over 2 partners before Marriage
Jus Thinkin'🚶🏿♂️🚶🏿♂️🚶🏿♂️🗯️
I see why the Browns have never won a SB. This organization is terrible. I know Baker sitting back chillin’
Baker sucks and he’s not sitting back chilling he’s trying to find a job lol Deshaun Watson is Chile on that 230 million you hater
I dunno if he's chilling but he's probably the only top earner in the Brown's organization that I respect.
They are the #2 Browns if you get my meaning.
Chillin’ with no teams willing to pay a reasonable salary for his services..
@@thegoatofyoutube1787 That’s ok, he’s still getting paid & he’s chillin
I didn't think the Browns could out do themselves after the Johnny Manziel fiasco. I was wrong.
I second that! I did not think anything could be dumber than drafting Manziel, but, boy, was I wrong!
With Florio being a former lawyer & having the balls to call BS when it’s BS I’ll always come to PFT for nfl legal issues
He’s a failed lawyer that’s why he isn’t in the law profession any longer. Not one thing Florio has stated on any legal issue in the NFL or with a players legal problems has come to fruition. He’s a biased hack who has no business being around football, the legal field, or the media.
Florio isn't F. Lee Bailey bub.
Sometimes he's wrong in his assessments too.
Just remember he is a drama monger nothing else. The other way to spin the story is Deshaun Watson is willing to pay less than 1% of his 5 year contract to get all of these people to STFU so he can play football. 🙄
@@thehoror01
Florio is a drama king. That's 100% True.
However, as far as Deshaun Watson is concerned, I think the man should be kept from playing in the league.
I don't know if he did these things or not but it's an ugly look regardless.
Terrible move by Cleveland to sign him.
@@EnterpriseNCC-1701 Mike was pushing for Watson to go to the Dolphins, and stating that having Watson was way better then Tua, smh. Now, he wants Watson to sit for another year and make free money…that would be dumb for Cleveland to go that route
I really thought we had a class A front office and Haslam, as the owner, finally understood he had to respect their decisions.
We were more than ok with Mayfield, but they had to sell their soul.
prolly not ok with Mayfield. definitely a reach for 1st overall. but yeah...I'd have taken mayfield as capable rather than this shitshow.
Incredible how calculating Andrew Barry, Kevin Stefanski and Paul Depodestra had been building the team up to this point.
"Houston we have your problem."
^^^^^best comment 2022
Who in their right mind thinks that all 22 women are lying ??? The Browns made a deal with the devil and he has come to collect.
The Grand jury in Houston?
Who in the right mind thinks Watson is guilty because of the number of people on the lawsuit. That is like saying 100 people is suing a company for wrong doing. What the company should just pay up the money because of the shear number of people? No it goes to court!
@@steveoshei1819 they didnt have enough evidense to go to trial is very different than they are all lieing.
why would they guarantee that much money, with those kinds of accusations, around? its staggering stupidity
The contract has accounted for that
@@keldel4363 He probably won't be suspended until 2023, so he'll lose a lot. I have a feeling he's going to play the whole 2022 season. As for the accusations, I think the Browns dismissed them as something terrible, because he's not being charged criminally. It still rubs me the wrong way. *OOPS!*
I understand Florio is allowed to have an opinion. It's just surprising his opinion is so one-sided and full of spin. He sounds like a lawyer, for someone who has no case.
I mean it’s obvious af
Watson quit on the Texans after signing a $130 million dollar contract. Why do the Browns think he won't do the same thing to them?
As a Texans fan he did not quit on you. You had former players like Andre Johnson, JJ watt advocating for him to move on he’s wasting his career.
@@joshuahorton5135 no he quit on us. As a Texans fan. Most Texans fans believe that.
@@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON I don’t see why, JJ wasted his career here. Andre Johnson same thing D hop same thing I’m not going to be upset with a player for seeing a pattern and running
@@joshuahorton5135 You are talking as if that doesn't happen on almost every team. Stop being soft acting like every team won a Superbowl recently. Half of them are won by Tom Brady past decade. That means every other player not on those teams didn't win. Watt didn't win when he left. Neither did Hopkins. Lame narrative excuse for giving up.
@@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON question let's say DW played this past season where would you place yall in yall division not the AFC cause even if yall had him beating my chiefs wouldn't happen
So GLAD my Saints didn't get him. I know they tried.
Crazy how so many teams wanted this guy. No matter what you think of the accusers, there’s a headache of the trials going on.
Dodged a HUGE bullet. Saints don’t need this anyway.
Saints wasn’t going to paid waston what the brown pay him that way the saints didn’t get the trade done.
👍Thank you gentlemen, that was insightfull, intelligent, & well spoken with decades of experience. 👏👏👏
Why would he settle the cases while criminal charges were still impending? He had to brace for the criminal cases (which have since been thrown out) before settling the the civil suits
Both sides attorneys know that criminal cases are harder to win because the burden of proof is greater there, but they also know that in civil court that is flipped around. All Rusty and Watson can do is react to each case and try to settle out of court---they do not have any other options. Meanwhile, those girls can wait it out for a long time with nothing to lose.
Watson can hire Camille Vasquez to dismantle the women on the stand. Each case will be handled individually so they will be able to present the mountains of evidence on each one in each trial to expose their MeToo extortion.
@@roris5882 That is a fantasy that lives in your head alone. Watson does not want a public trial on these cases because enought has already been released to stain him for life. Not even brining in some female attorney could clean up the mess he's made and guarantee if this was an option, we would be past this by now. His only option is asking how much they want to go away?
i don't want to believe he did these things, but it's getting hard not to...if it's true I want him to face the consequences even if it results in Deshaun never playing football again. if it's not true, he might just need to offer half a million to each woman and shut the door on this thing.
How is it getting hard. They don't have any new evidence so why the change of opinion.
24 fake claims?
@@luckytronasmrluckyfri4276 For a half of a million I'll gladly say I'm number 25.
"...it's getting HARD not to..." Lol 😂😆
They have Mayfield and Brissett, their quarterbacks were never the problem. But now they have a huge problem with their quarterbacks.
Except for the fact that Mayfield is not top 25, QB was a massive problem
@@coldandugly9251 I'll give you that. But if the Browns had someone like Brady, Mahomes, or somebody of that caliber, do you think they would be a contender? I just think that bringing in Watson just made things worse. But that's my opinion.
@@gregengel1616 Brady and Mahomes make any team a contender but I’d argue they are the best 2 QBs in the league, Mayfield was meh at best and I believe Watson is top 5.
The Browns in my life time have never had a QB you win because of not in spite of, unfortunately at the moment there is a lot of noise as well and I’m not going to lie I’m holding my nose and looking the other way ( not sure what that says about me) but Watson and this roster have SB potential in my opinion so im happy with the trade from a football perspective, time will tell if I stay that way.
@@gregengel1616 Absolutely they would be a contender. Mayfield is horrible.
The fact that another person has come out just recently…this kids career will be on mega pause. The next Josh Gordon. Commissioner won’t let him play again for another 2 years while he’s settling these cases. On top of that public opinion will hate him like Vick is hated
He is no Josh Gordon. Gordon never did anything like this at all.
I dont think ANY NFL QB had this many allegations (correct me if im wrong) i just keep thinking about the fact that most players manage to have massages without wipping their d*ck out
this "other person"....worked on Deshaun 3 times! 3X!!!!!
Like WHEN did she figure out....she didn't like massaging him? Not the first...not the 2nd....maybe not the 3rd...til she watched HBO? And figured out a payday was being missed? An opportunity? Capitalism...is real....and these "masseuses" are gold diggers.
“like Vick is hated”… I don’t know about that, tho it could be the case. It is just that this society loves dogs but hates women. So Watson’s treatment by the public could be a little different than what Vick experienced. But who knows, the sheer number of accusers could be the tipping point for large groups of people, but there’s also those people that think all these 20+ women had a meeting to conspire about some QB cuz some NFL owner had a problem with him lol Narratives are tricky things.
@@mmadchef808 right but I’m saying indefinite suspensions like Gordon kept getting
The Browns gave him a large amount of "hush money" to use.
sickening. paying off a predator's victims. for the sake of nfl football.
@@wickedgarden9257 So much victims that they can't mount a shred of evidence to prosecute so an ambulance chaser rounds them up and goes after Watson in Civil court with the promise of millions. What happened to the presumption of innocence?
I am so glad I can hear the delayed audio in the background of these two talking. Top-notch production!
Nothing like a sarcastic bishh in the comment section 🤣😂
Ozzie Newsom and Bill Belicheck was the last smart folks in the Browns organization.....keep it going now lol
Here's the question I have why did you need 23 massage therapist to begin with?
As a hard-core Dolphin Fan for life, I have to admit that I was guilty of wanting them to sign Deshaun thinking that these accusations would just go away, or be resolved amicably. WOW! I'm so glad we dodged this bullet, and though I'm still not happy with them firing their head coach, Tua is looking a lot better as a QB of choice every day!!
23 women all lying about getting assaulted?
Every, story has truth to it.
But no one called or made a police report 😂
@@doffydonquixte how many woman do you actually believe make a police report? How many kids get assaulted and actually tell someone?
Harvey Weinstein assaulted 85 women and nobody found out until a few years ago.
Bill Cosby, R. Kelly, Jeff Epstein, the list goes on. So, think about the bigger picture.
@@angelogarcia1385 was he found guilty yes or no? Cause y’all like to paint people guilty before their proven innocent
@@doffydonquixte I’m a Watson fan and every time I saw an allegation I shook it off as someone just trying to get money but then it kept building and building and building. So, to be honest and say Watson hasn’t done anything would make me a blind fan.
No they don't.
DOLPHINS!!! Browns blew it. Baker was a good quarterback. Lost him too. Take baker problems over Watson any day.
Baker is trash the browns will be ok with Watson
Baker is absolute trash lol
@@gregorydunston2952 least he available!
Before Watson, I was thinking the Browns had a great opportunity to be a real super bowl contender with all of those draft picks, salary cap space and Mayfield being young and decent like a Flacco but a little better. But nope! They basically took their entire savings and spent it all on one player NOT named Tom Brady or Pat Mahomes. Ok then....
you don't know football
Hey - that player did happen to go 2-14 his final season before getting exposed as a pervert ..
All the greats have 2-14 years ..
Brady , Rodgers , Bree’s , Mahomes
@@JB-fp5ud - I'm not a Watson hater, but yeah....he didn't do well the year before he was off. Browns screw up big time.
He definitely should’ve paid those 18 that wanted to accept it. That was a huge mistake.
He should've paid them ALL.. No matter what it cost. He's literally missing 1- 1.5 years of his career. This was absolutely a mistake esp considering the huge number even if not guilty. The court of public opinion and the 100s of DMs make him look stupid. Bad judgment.
Facts!!
@@tacotom3492 yeah you get the 18 out first and then go back to the other 4 or 5 and see what they would take it is done and over move on. Even if the other ones wanted 200k or 300k with his new deal that is nothing to get onto the field. With the NDAs no one would know what the pay out is for each one anyways.
@@zw3565 Exactly... With $230 mm of guaranteed money paying away 5-10 mm is the smart business decision
I don't think DeShaun wanted it done. It was more his agent and the Dolphins. DeShaun has maintained his innocence so this type of character assassination is unjust.
Keep the exceptional journalism and reporting up!
If 23 women came forward, it's very likely there are another 30 to 40 who didn't come forward, for one reason or the other (embarrassment, fear of not being believed, desire to protect children or marriage).
ONLY 1 woman has to be telling the truth for this guy to be a total creep. Just let that sink in. And if he is a creep, the other stuff is believable. Either he's a creep or he's the unluckiest guy on planet earth. 🤔
Yeah I think the odds are he is a creep. Just the way he looks and talks give me creep vibes
I think the nfl should create a new policy that says a player can’t play if he has active legal cases against him (of the heinous kind) and they must be resolved(settled or handled in court )first. I don’t think anyone wants to see him play until we see the outcome of these cases.
That's called discrimination and it goes against labor laws smh lol....private law is between individuals ...it's really NONE OF OUR BUSINESS if they settle or for what they settle for...
Nah. The NFL can already do that. And we don't want to give accusers too much power without proof. I'm fine with how the NFL is handling Watson's charges. From what I see, I think the NFL might suspend Watson 3-6 games. The evidence against him is not that serious, but I think it's enough for a suspension. We will see if I am right.
Watch Baker become a top 10 QB with a new team...
Never 😂😂
Browns always do the wrong thing, but, Wow! This time it is a disaster.
Giving the richest contract in NFL history to a guy that probably shouldn't be allowed to play in the league?, And they still have quarterback on the roster that you can't trade and have to pay? What a clown show
@@michaelcorcoran8768 he won't even get suspended and is completely innocent.
Pretty stupid comment
@@dylanclark8856 right!
@@dylanclark8856 wow,you just keep amazing me with your comments.
Baker Mayfield may very well be the winner in all of this, as he departs for another team.
Lmao he’s holding a clipboard for the rest of his career
@@quiteLargeTuna exactly…ppl still talking like Baker ain’t trash.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@Mystic_man727 he aint
@@quiteLargeTuna hes not you
I said at the time of the trade/deal that it was amazingly stupid.
If it was just the trade and he was on his other contract still would you say that?
Not if they get just 3 years out of him
@@bartier861 yes, just less stupid. Still stupid.
@@isaiahh4108 how is just getting 3 years out of him good?
Houston to Cleveland... Thank you!!!!!
Remember when a lot of houstonians were pissed they didn't get more? I knew this shit would happen
Cleveland thanks you too
@@alexvirola864 Y’all got played 🤣🤣🤣
@@alexvirola864 say hi to Jadaveon for me!
@@gongqi67 jadaveon didn't get the biggest guaranteed contact in history.
Did anyone really believe two dozen women are lying? If you did, you need help.
Well take a look at the paperwork …. It’s very possible especially if you read what most of them said under oath!
I'm a born and raised Browns fan. Im also a season ticket holder who is scratching his head because we had the ultimate blue collar qb in Mayfield who got his team to the playoffs and won..He was a walk on in college and earned his way into becoming a Heisman winner. The kid played hurt last year and laid his career on the line. Now he's feeling the wrath of a ruthless front office and owner. It's a wonder why this organization has been a laughing stock for years. We will see if Watson can handle the pressure of a dysfunctional franchise and win . Now all he has to do is get on the field and save his reputation with a Superbowl ring . Now that's a prayer that no one can answer.......
Baker got screwed and his teammates are gutless because none of them played well last season. People forgot that the defense Andrew Berry brought in totally sucked and most Browns fans were calling for Joe Woods to be fired, including JJ3, Delpit and Newsome who were getting burned over the top by real football players. Only Nick Chubb had the balls to stick up for Baker.
Baker ain’t that dude! Stop with the baker nonsense! Deshawn is ten times better!!
@@devonnemallory5935 availability the best ability
@@bunker5696 and he will be available this year!
This whole situation is like you have a loyal girlfriend who you decide to dump for a super model. The only problem is your loyal girlfriend still lives with you and the super model might be going away for a long time. So you’re left in a broken relationship and one that’s starting with a bunch of dysfunction
Settle, settle, settle. Time for Watson to pay for his misdeeds and to move on. Watson is going to wish he had settle the 18 accusers. Now it is going to cost him MORE, a lot MORE. Had he been able to settle 18 cases for under $2 million, that was a bargain. In my working career, we voluntarily settled cases rather than take the risk of some jury trial. With 23 claims, if only one case goes to trial, he could lose $10 million or more! Sure, he could win some cases, but is he going to win them all? Just the cost of going to trial will exceed any settlement cost.
Pay up. Cost of doing stupid sht. Yes, there will be others too once he does but it is what it is. He screwed up big time and it's going to be painful. But if he goes to courst and loses he could be banned for life. Easy choice.
@A H because in a civil case it doesn't need the same proof as a criminal case. Just if the jury decision is he owes them some money. Plus he will have legal fees for each case that will just keep totaling up way more then what he could have gotten off with on these 1.8 million NDAs
Imagine 24 going to trial? Serial Watson going broke! 🤣
The prostitutes should be arrested and criminally prosecuted for solicitation. The massage venue owners charged for trafficking under the Rico Act. The attorney representing the tramps should have his law license revoked on ethic violations.
@A H Wrong, it's a he said, she said, she said, she aid, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said. Big difference.
Good,
You make a deal with the devil, you have to accept the consequences.
Do they think that the other 15 teams are total disgraces as well?
15 other teams didn’t give him 230 million guaranteed and 3 first rounders. Only 4 teams were willing to give Houston the draft capital they wanted.
Law is the only field where practitioners need to learn "ethics"
It seems to come naturally to everyone else.
Well-stated💪👌
All that talent and all that potential on a team that had a good QB who played hurt (wrong move) but stayed in the fight, (coach has to own some of this) for his team and city. Was the owner trying up one on Dan Snyder (Skins) for Stupid?
Baker is trash! Move on!! Dawg pound!!!
@@devonnemallory5935 you seem all too comfortable with the worst trade since the 1989 Hershel Walker trade.
This has a very good chance of being worse.
@@DaleGribble1 that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Top five quarterback when playing. He will play this year and we have him four more! The Texans were nothing before him! If you don’t think he is one of the best quarterbacks you’re either hating, don’t know football or letting your fake outrage take over! Gfoh!!!🤡🤡
@@devonnemallory5935 he's predicted to be suspended 8-17 games by nearly everyone
@@devonnemallory5935 watson has also had some ACL/LCL tears in the past. He's long overdue for one.
How many scrambling quarterbacks are good into their 30's?
Trick question!
They never last that long!
What werethe Brown's thinking now u have no QB until this gets resolved lol
Lmao
How the heck did the owner make his money if he is that dumb to trade for watson?
Houston must be laughing right now with those draft picks. This is up there with the Hershell Walker deal.
Not a Brown’s fan and don’t believe that Watson was worth what was paid. I, like a lot of folks didn’t want to believe this kid was guilty of anything but trying for a happy ending a couple of times. But, twenty-two… no wait… twenty-three accusations? There’s something mental going on here. He’s a good looking lad, plenty of money, fame… finding a woman to give you a massage and happy ending, willingly and enthusiastically shouldn’t be a stretch. You just can’t trust someone that has a hitch in their giddiup like that.
And here I was thinking NOTHING could top the Herschel Walker fiasco...