the depth and detail of this review is excellent, I've found so much more value in this review than from other larger channels that regularly get hold of free "review" hardware
Very good review, I came from an X-52Pro/X-56 set up and I've replaced my broken stick with the F-16ex, and liked it so much I got the throttle with the standard F-15e grips. I agree with the niggles, especially the unlock mechanism for the throttle grips, I think they can make some improvements there, other than that after 8 months of use, I do love the setup I have, even the software I have learned how to use fairly well. and dialed in the different after burner settings for each aircraft.
Very similar experience as well. Went from X-52 to x-56. Now running the Thrustmaster F-16 stick and X-56 throttle. Throttle is going out so looking at winwing for f-16 and f-15 throttles. Great review. Winwing looks like the way to go.
Great review,have an absolutely clapped out thrustmaster hotas x for xbox / pc ,i am on the hunt for a more substantial better quality system and your review nailed it. Thanks a lot,cheers 🙂👍🍻
Great review thank you for taking the time to make it In learning the FA18 so I’m leaning toward that stick and throttle for most realism …. But this setup has so many more buttons for the same price Arggghgg 😅
@@expataviator7107 the advantage of going for more buttons is it does make it easier to jump between modules. But yeah, I do get wanting the one that matches your main aircraft. Difficult choice!
Very good review. I have the same setup coming from winwing uk in the next few days hopefully. I'm just wondering though...Do you have to run the software to use the vibration mode? The reason I'm asking is that I heard the software can cause frame rate drop. Great review...Thank you..
@@davidgowing2121 just tested and no, vibration doesn't seem to work without the software running. I've not noticed any frame rate issues with the software but I might just be lucky.
@@Dr_Jebus OK Thanks. There is a Reflected review that states some framerate issues but just noticed a reply that says it has been sorted with the latest software update...So all good..Thanks for testing. 👍
Nice review, this one is definitely on my list for replacing my T16000M hotas. What do you use for zoom view in DCS? I now use the radar elevation pinky axis on my throttle which is very smooth. Looks like this radar elevation axis is not as smooth, would you think it would be suitable for zoom view? (I use it as an axis to set it just the way I want and leave it there for different scenarios)
@@TheTomster94 I use the lower thumb axis to zoom (lower one on the throttle panel), but the pinky one on the left throttle would probably also be great.
is it hard to assemble? and do i need to mess with any software or can i just plug it in, play with keybinds and fly? im microsoft flight sim main if thats important
@@RainbowMemer as said in the video, setting up is a bit of a faff, especially as it doesn't come with printed instructions so you have you search their website, and then the instructions are in very broken English. You shouldn't need to use software for keybinds, you can mess around with it to adjust how the controls work and afterburner settings, but all button presses should work out the box. I've not tested with msfs so not sure if it handles the number of inputs by default, if not, you'll have to go into the software to set it to 4x32 mode
Does the stick twist left and right for rudder for example? Or is there rudder controls on the throttle? Or are there any rudder controls on them at all
@@NDARanging on its own, there is no rudder controls. It's kind of assumed that if you're paying this much for a hotas, you have pedals. But there is an add-on you can get to convert to a twist stick if you prefer that
@@EpicNinjaRides that's the non-max version, and with the F18 throttle, not the one I reviewed. Just checked and the max with the 15EX throttle is $520. The figure I quoted was correct for at the time of recording from the UK store
This is very helpful. I have narrowed my search down to two brands.
Ty for the VOD. 🥃🥃
the depth and detail of this review is excellent, I've found so much more value in this review than from other larger channels that regularly get hold of free "review" hardware
Very good review, I came from an X-52Pro/X-56 set up and I've replaced my broken stick with the F-16ex, and liked it so much I got the throttle with the standard F-15e grips. I agree with the niggles, especially the unlock mechanism for the throttle grips, I think they can make some improvements there, other than that after 8 months of use, I do love the setup I have, even the software I have learned how to use fairly well. and dialed in the different after burner settings for each aircraft.
Very similar experience as well. Went from X-52 to x-56. Now running the Thrustmaster F-16 stick and X-56 throttle. Throttle is going out so looking at winwing for f-16 and f-15 throttles.
Great review. Winwing looks like the way to go.
Appreciating the Winwing products. Just got the rudder pedals last week and using the same F16Ex stick for over a year.
Hey. A tip for the base. Change the plate with the warthog baseplate. Will improve a lot.
This my dream joystick to play DCS.Force feedback vibration and more button are really nice to play with.
Not Dodgy at all! ❤ Excellent Review.
Great review,have an absolutely clapped out thrustmaster hotas x for xbox / pc ,i am on the hunt for a more substantial better quality system and your review nailed it.
Thanks a lot,cheers 🙂👍🍻
Great review thank you for taking the time to make it
In learning the FA18 so I’m leaning toward that stick and throttle for most realism …. But this setup has so many more buttons for the same price
Arggghgg 😅
@@expataviator7107 the advantage of going for more buttons is it does make it easier to jump between modules. But yeah, I do get wanting the one that matches your main aircraft. Difficult choice!
Great review mate👍🏻did you order from the WINWING UK store? If so how long did it take to arrive? Cheers
@@andrewwait94 yes, from the UK store. I can't remember the exact time but I'm pretty sure it was under a week
Looking to upgrade so this is useful, thank you.
Very good review. I have the same setup coming from winwing uk in the next few days hopefully.
I'm just wondering though...Do you have to run the software to use the vibration mode? The reason I'm asking is that I heard the software can cause frame rate drop.
Great review...Thank you..
@@davidgowing2121 just tested and no, vibration doesn't seem to work without the software running. I've not noticed any frame rate issues with the software but I might just be lucky.
@@Dr_Jebus OK Thanks. There is a Reflected review that states some framerate issues but just noticed a reply that says it has been sorted with the latest software update...So all good..Thanks for testing. 👍
Is the vat included when you buy it now
@@lorcon8907 it added it on for me when I went to the checkout
Nice review, this one is definitely on my list for replacing my T16000M hotas. What do you use for zoom view in DCS? I now use the radar elevation pinky axis on my throttle which is very smooth. Looks like this radar elevation axis is not as smooth, would you think it would be suitable for zoom view? (I use it as an axis to set it just the way I want and leave it there for different scenarios)
@@TheTomster94 I use the lower thumb axis to zoom (lower one on the throttle panel), but the pinky one on the left throttle would probably also be great.
Do the joystick include yaw axis, or do you need to buy rudder pedals ?
@@Paul-gj3vb no yaw axis, so you'll need pedals or there is an add-on which adds a twist axis. Can't remember how much for though. About £50 I think?
@@Dr_Jebus no longer available end of life
@@lorcon8907 ah, pity
is it hard to assemble? and do i need to mess with any software or can i just plug it in, play with keybinds and fly? im microsoft flight sim main if thats important
@@RainbowMemer as said in the video, setting up is a bit of a faff, especially as it doesn't come with printed instructions so you have you search their website, and then the instructions are in very broken English. You shouldn't need to use software for keybinds, you can mess around with it to adjust how the controls work and afterburner settings, but all button presses should work out the box. I've not tested with msfs so not sure if it handles the number of inputs by default, if not, you'll have to go into the software to set it to 4x32 mode
Does the stick twist left and right for rudder for example? Or is there rudder controls on the throttle? Or are there any rudder controls on them at all
@@NDARanging on its own, there is no rudder controls. It's kind of assumed that if you're paying this much for a hotas, you have pedals. But there is an add-on you can get to convert to a twist stick if you prefer that
Do you know any setup that is good for Xbox??
@@csanadtarsoly9428 no idea, sorry. Don't have one
It’s under $400 USD
@@EpicNinjaRides that's the non-max version, and with the F18 throttle, not the one I reviewed. Just checked and the max with the 15EX throttle is $520. The figure I quoted was correct for at the time of recording from the UK store