I'm 6' 7, 265 pounds. I have 2" risers and 1" lowering pegs wind shield at maximum factory height. This is the best mod ever on a '22. Made it a whole new bike.
Good job explaining this Tim. Totally agree. The bike is a keeper now. I always thought the fuel mapping was way off. The bike is so smooth now. I feel totally relaxed riding with this mod. I will never go back to stock setup.
I just tried this bypass. Was very excited to try it. My KLR still Jake brakes. Was hoping for a smoother deceleration but still bucks me when I let off. Also don’t like the fact it will start with the bybass if you accidentally have it in first. Oh well. I’ll continue stock!!
New 2023 KLR owner here……I might have to try this mod, read about it on the KLR forum and the consensus seems to be that this mod makes the bike much ride much differently/smoother. Great video and thank you for posting.
hook it back up and ride it and you will see it does nothing. This whole thing is in your head. It's designed to bump the throttle just a you are letting out on the clutch, I had a few stalls and finally realized the problem, so I reattached the switch an issue solved and no I couldn't tell any difference in the smoothness of the engine. If someone hooks it back up and doesn't tell you, you will never know.
@@Ghostrider-71 i liked the engine braking, I used it to my advantage. if on the highway at higher speeds, yes the abrupt engine braking is noticeable if you chop the throttle. To my knowledge the bypass does not stop this. I may be wrong. it's a thumper, it's going to have engine braking. who knows, try it and see if it helps, otherwise in general riding, I saw no real change, other than a few times where it stalled due to the rpms dropping to low, once a stop light just as I'm releasing the clutch and a couple times at low speeds, i think I was at a low speed and pretty much idling and I can't remember if I was letting out on the clutch to start to accelerate and it died. Due to the computer is supposed to bump the throttle just as you are letting out on the clutch, which doesn't happen if the switch is bypassed. so experiment and see. I just hooked mine back up and all was well. I don't currently have the bike, but will be getting another one soon
@@eminiscalperpro9729 yes, I don’t mind the engine braking. I have found with slow smooth throttle closure, the engine braking isn’t as abrupt. I am hesitant to bypass anything on the bike, so for now I will just leave it alone.
@@eminiscalperpro9729yeah, just tried it a few minutes ago. Took it around the neighborhood and still Jake brakes. Also seemed I had to throttle it a bit when coming close to a stop. No thanks. I’ll deal with the braking. I just don’t like it when I’m on gravel and standing then it bucks me forward.
I was curious so I did the mod about a week ago. For me, and my style of mostly road, urban commuting, it made the bike so much smoother to ride. The abrupt on/off throttling was gone, less engine braking at higher rpm but just better for city stop and go traffic. I used a 15amp mini fuse, instead of trimming the prongs I used someone else's recommendation of just twisting them 90 degrees. Fit and worked like a charm.
After watching video this morning performed mod on my 22 KLR. Benefits were as stated in the video. Thanks again and I do recommend. Did a temp job and ordered the plug and play from 3D cycle.
Thinking about making this a switch for jake-braking coming off the highway... will loosely cobble something together and see if its worth building out.
Thanks for the video. I took my 2023 KLR out for a ride yesterday for the first time, and I found that the snatchy / abrupt throttle is absolutely ridiculous. I am doing this mod asap! I have owned and test ridden a lot of EFI motorcycles, but the KLR is the worst for snatchiness that I have ever experienced. I absolutely love the bike otherwise.
@@2talltimadventures You are definitely correct. I did the mod Wednesday and I took my KLR out for a ride yesterday, and what a difference. I just hope that the mod doesn't have any long-term effects on the ECU. I came across a couple of KLR forum entries about that.
@Fulltimedad90 I have had the bike for about 13 months now, and with a little over 4000 miles, I have not had any problems with the mod. I am thinking about making it switchable because there are times that some engine braking is needed. Doing this mod does eliminate some engine braking.
The klr is designed so that as you are releasing the clutch lever the rpms bump up slightly. I did this bypass and a few times I had a stall issue, once at a stop light. I hooked the switch back up and the issue never happened again. There is no reason for this mod, it is all in your head. The jerky throttle or whatever they call it, will go away once you ride the bike a few times, I think it's more that you become use to it. First time I rode mine it felt this way but then it went away, I guess I got use to it. I unhooked and re-hooked the switch several times and there is no difference. Yes if you are riding it and you chop the throttle you will get some engine breaking, but the clutch bypass has nothing to do with it
@@eminiscalperpro9729 I don't know what to tell you man. I think the popular consensus is this is a good mod and people like it. I rode my KLR for thousands of miles before I did the mod. And it still was a fantastic upgrade. Not once that I have any stalling issues. Nor have I heard of anybody else having stalling issues post mod. Everybody likes a different feel and performance other bike. Maybe you like the original way. Most do not
I love the mod. I almost sold the bike after owning it one week. I don't understand why Kawasaki installed the annoying engine braking clutch switch. Maybe it had something to do with meeting federal fuel consumption regulations. Whatever it was, it does not make sense for safe riding. I almost went flying over the handlebars several times while throttling down.
The choppy throttle response has been bugging me. I can’t wait to try this. It’s been a while now since the video was posted. Have you noticed any longer term effect on fuel mileage or performance?
wierd, my 2023 doesn't seem to have this issue? I might try it anyway.. maybe my baseline is off.. i rode a carbed xr650l years prior, and it was a hard starting rough idling sob for a showroom bike... throttle response was delayed also, didn't do daves mods.. but i also ride a vstrom dl1000 and habe owned over 27 bikes.. i didn't notice anything wierd about my new klr
Great Channel & Videos, very helpful. I just bought a Gen 3 KLR. would Like to get your opinion on why you chose the T-rex Bars over the Tusk Bars? and also why the T-rex center stand over the Happy Trail Center stand? i'm lookin at purchasing the Tusk bars and happy Trail center stand. curious if there is any reasons not to go with those two choices? thanks
So on the T-Rex bars I just thought they offered more protection and more cross bracing than anything else on the market. I feel they are the most durable most well designed and probably the sturdiest ones there are. On the Happy trails center stand I will not give that company any more of my money. I think they have deceiving business practices they hold your money hostage while your stuff is on back order for months and months. I regret giving them the money that I already have. I think they make fine products I just don't like their business practices. And that Casey Ralls that runs the company now or is the face of the company is a snake in the grass. I was disappointed in the service I received when I ordered my products and when I disclose my dissatisfaction with my service they simply blocked me from their social media outlets.
@@2talltimadventures thanks Tim, I appreciate the reply. Those are all understandable reasons. Good to know. I live in Idaho and just found out yesterday happy trails is based in Boise. So proximity wise it would be advantageous for me. But not if I’m going to wait on it for months and receive terrible support. Love your channel and videos. 👍👍 thanks again.
@@2talltimadventuresahhh, I’m not the only one. They did this shit without any warning for their extended shift lever. I ordered it and once I paid, it suddenly wasn’t available for a rough estimate of 3 months…. And I found a thread on some site where the exact same thing for the same lever happened to someone else with the exact timelines a year ago. So it very much in my book was the company being okay with not warning customers that they wouldn’t get their part for months. If it’s been happening for years and people are complaining, most companies would notify the customers on the product page or something… the response I got when I complained was a very un-concerned one from Happy Trails… they didn’t even acknowledge my complaint. Just refunded me.
This is a very late comment. On the progressive springs did you notice enough of a difference for it to be worth while. I am thinking of doing it on my bike. Thanks!
Mine was one of the first few off the production line of the brand new model. couple little quirks with it. Was taking care of under warranty. No issues any longer. No different than buying a new car or anything else nothing's going to be perfect as long as the company backs up their product which they did
I am really confused.... That made such a huge difference. I hated the fact that my KLR felt like it had a Jake brake on it, now that I bypassed it, it is like a new bike, so much smoother. I guess it would be kind of interesting to rig it up to like the pass light momentary switch for those times you do feel like having a jake bake on your KLR HAHAHAHA. Has anyone figured out what Kawa was trying to do with this? I can't think of any reason you would want that much engine braking on a KLR, when I first got the bike I thought something was wrong with it. Ohh what I wanted to say, Is there any reason I would want to put like a rubber plug inside there to prevent corrosion? is there any scenario in which I would ever want to plug it back in?
@@2talltimadventures huh, I guess that does make sense. I think it was a bit dangerous because on a downshift the rear tire would slide a lot easier. almost like when you are trying to pop start a bike. I guess if you match rpms instead of dump the clutch it’s probably not the same but I went from a 2 stroke to that thing and it felt really wacky.
I am 260lbs currently running the preload on 3 for empty offroad running. If I wanted a more plush road ride I'll drop it to 1. If I'm loaded down for with full luggage I'll up it to 5.
The point would be when it runs out of ass when merging into traffic it shuts down until you shift or back off. My gen 2 did not do this. I guess when they deleted the tach you get a rev limiter.
I'm 6' 7, 265 pounds. I have 2" risers and 1" lowering pegs wind shield at maximum factory height.
This is the best mod ever on a '22. Made it a whole new bike.
Good job explaining this Tim. Totally agree. The bike is a keeper now. I always thought the fuel mapping was way off. The bike is so smooth now. I feel totally relaxed riding with this mod. I will never go back to stock setup.
I just tried this bypass. Was very excited to try it. My KLR still Jake brakes. Was hoping for a smoother deceleration but still bucks me when I let off. Also don’t like the fact it will start with the bybass if you accidentally have it in first. Oh well. I’ll continue stock!!
New 2023 KLR owner here……I might have to try this mod, read about it on the KLR forum and the consensus seems to be that this mod makes the bike much ride much differently/smoother. Great video and thank you for posting.
hook it back up and ride it and you will see it does nothing. This whole thing is in your head. It's designed to bump the throttle just a you are letting out on the clutch, I had a few stalls and finally realized the problem, so I reattached the switch an issue solved and no I couldn't tell any difference in the smoothness of the engine. If someone hooks it back up and doesn't tell you, you will never know.
@@eminiscalperpro9729 so it doesn’t eliminate the engine braking? I have found that the TCFC is abrupt, especially at speed. Throttle Closed Fuel Cut.
@@Ghostrider-71 i liked the engine braking, I used it to my advantage. if on the highway at higher speeds, yes the abrupt engine braking is noticeable if you chop the throttle. To my knowledge the bypass does not stop this. I may be wrong. it's a thumper, it's going to have engine braking. who knows, try it and see if it helps, otherwise in general riding, I saw no real change, other than a few times where it stalled due to the rpms dropping to low, once a stop light just as I'm releasing the clutch and a couple times at low speeds, i think I was at a low speed and pretty much idling and I can't remember if I was letting out on the clutch to start to accelerate and it died. Due to the computer is supposed to bump the throttle just as you are letting out on the clutch, which doesn't happen if the switch is bypassed. so experiment and see. I just hooked mine back up and all was well. I don't currently have the bike, but will be getting another one soon
@@eminiscalperpro9729 yes, I don’t mind the engine braking. I have found with slow smooth throttle closure, the engine braking isn’t as abrupt. I am hesitant to bypass anything on the bike, so for now I will just leave it alone.
@@eminiscalperpro9729yeah, just tried it a few minutes ago. Took it around the neighborhood and still Jake brakes. Also seemed I had to throttle it a bit when coming close to a stop. No thanks. I’ll deal with the braking. I just don’t like it when I’m on gravel and standing then it bucks me forward.
Brilliant mod- completely smoothed the erratic deceleration and took the bump off acceleration.
I’m not reversing this one.
I was curious so I did the mod about a week ago. For me, and my style of mostly road, urban commuting, it made the bike so much smoother to ride. The abrupt on/off throttling was gone, less engine braking at higher rpm but just better for city stop and go traffic. I used a 15amp mini fuse, instead of trimming the prongs I used someone else's recommendation of just twisting them 90 degrees. Fit and worked like a charm.
After watching video this morning performed mod on my 22 KLR. Benefits were as stated in the video. Thanks again and I do recommend. Did a temp job and ordered the plug and play from 3D cycle.
Thank you so much. The abrupt engine cut was the only complaint I had with the entire bike.
I as well. When I was standing and backing off the throttle fast in low gears, felt like I was going to go over the bars. LOL
I ordered the 3DCycle plugin. Should be here Monday. It was pretty cheap, so if I hate the mod, I won't be sad to take it out.
Thanx for the heads up on this mod. I'm gonna give it a try.
Great video. I need to wait now till decent time so I don’t disturb neighbours, however keen to get in workshop and try this this morning.
Thinking about making this a switch for jake-braking coming off the highway... will loosely cobble something together and see if its worth building out.
Thanks for the video. I took my 2023 KLR out for a ride yesterday for the first time, and I found that the snatchy / abrupt throttle is absolutely ridiculous. I am doing this mod asap! I have owned and test ridden a lot of EFI motorcycles, but the KLR is the worst for snatchiness that I have ever experienced. I absolutely love the bike otherwise.
You won't regret it it completely changes the characteristic of the bike
@@2talltimadventures You are definitely correct. I did the mod Wednesday and I took my KLR out for a ride yesterday, and what a difference. I just hope that the mod doesn't have any long-term effects on the ECU. I came across a couple of KLR forum entries about that.
Just out of curiosity, has this mod still been working problem free on the 2023 ? No ECU issues ?
@Fulltimedad90 I have had the bike for about 13 months now, and with a little over 4000 miles, I have not had any problems with the mod. I am thinking about making it switchable because there are times that some engine braking is needed. Doing this mod does eliminate some engine braking.
The klr is designed so that as you are releasing the clutch lever the rpms bump up slightly. I did this bypass and a few times I had a stall issue, once at a stop light. I hooked the switch back up and the issue never happened again. There is no reason for this mod, it is all in your head. The jerky throttle or whatever they call it, will go away once you ride the bike a few times, I think it's more that you become use to it. First time I rode mine it felt this way but then it went away, I guess I got use to it. I unhooked and re-hooked the switch several times and there is no difference. Yes if you are riding it and you chop the throttle you will get some engine breaking, but the clutch bypass has nothing to do with it
@@eminiscalperpro9729 I don't know what to tell you man. I think the popular consensus is this is a good mod and people like it. I rode my KLR for thousands of miles before I did the mod. And it still was a fantastic upgrade. Not once that I have any stalling issues. Nor have I heard of anybody else having stalling issues post mod. Everybody likes a different feel and performance other bike. Maybe you like the original way. Most do not
I love the mod. I almost sold the bike after owning it one week. I don't understand why Kawasaki installed the annoying engine braking clutch switch. Maybe it had something to do with meeting federal fuel consumption regulations. Whatever it was, it does not make sense for safe riding. I almost went flying over the handlebars several times while throttling down.
Good info. Thanks.
After replacing the switch on my gen2 a couple of times. I jumped that switch. Get rid of another nani switch.
I found it interesting today when i switched back to the mod, it stalled on me coming to a stop from 1st twice within minutes. Wonder why?
The choppy throttle response has been bugging me. I can’t wait to try this. It’s been a while now since the video was posted. Have you noticed any longer term effect on fuel mileage or performance?
I've never owned an older one so sorry I can't answer that.
@@2talltimadventures He didn't say anything about an older one???
@@enb3810 sorry I must have been replying to another post i accidentally posted it here.
No I didn't noticed any adverse effects in fuel mileage
@@2talltimadventures the clutch bypass has really made the drivability way better
sweet bike, found a few nice second gen klr's, but not sure if it's if better to get the new gen or not.
Personally I'm pretty biased toward the 1s and the 3s, no reason to get the gen2s. Too heavy, harder to work on, and no EFI
@enb3810 got a gen 3 w/71 miles on her and it's very good!
wierd, my 2023 doesn't seem to have this issue? I might try it anyway.. maybe my baseline is off.. i rode a carbed xr650l years prior, and it was a hard starting rough idling sob for a showroom bike... throttle response was delayed also, didn't do daves mods.. but i also ride a vstrom dl1000 and habe owned over 27 bikes.. i didn't notice anything wierd about my new klr
Great Channel & Videos, very helpful. I just bought a Gen 3 KLR. would Like to get your opinion on why you chose the T-rex Bars over the Tusk Bars? and also why the T-rex center stand over the Happy Trail Center stand? i'm lookin at purchasing the Tusk bars and happy Trail center stand. curious if there is any reasons not to go with those two choices? thanks
So on the T-Rex bars I just thought they offered more protection and more cross bracing than anything else on the market. I feel they are the most durable most well designed and probably the sturdiest ones there are.
On the Happy trails center stand I will not give that company any more of my money. I think they have deceiving business practices they hold your money hostage while your stuff is on back order for months and months. I regret giving them the money that I already have. I think they make fine products I just don't like their business practices. And that Casey Ralls that runs the company now or is the face of the company is a snake in the grass. I was disappointed in the service I received when I ordered my products and when I disclose my dissatisfaction with my service they simply blocked me from their social media outlets.
@@2talltimadventures thanks Tim, I appreciate the reply. Those are all understandable reasons. Good to know. I live in Idaho and just found out yesterday happy trails is based in Boise. So proximity wise it would be advantageous for me. But not if I’m going to wait on it for months and receive terrible support. Love your channel and videos. 👍👍 thanks again.
@@2talltimadventuresahhh, I’m not the only one. They did this shit without any warning for their extended shift lever. I ordered it and once I paid, it suddenly wasn’t available for a rough estimate of 3 months…. And I found a thread on some site where the exact same thing for the same lever happened to someone else with the exact timelines a year ago. So it very much in my book was the company being okay with not warning customers that they wouldn’t get their part for months. If it’s been happening for years and people are complaining, most companies would notify the customers on the product page or something… the response I got when I complained was a very un-concerned one from Happy Trails… they didn’t even acknowledge my complaint. Just refunded me.
@@DSplatter yeah they will never get another dime of my money and will never recommend to people. Terrible way to treat customers.
This is a very late comment. On the progressive springs did you notice enough of a difference for it to be worth while. I am thinking of doing it on my bike. Thanks!
Absolutely! So much control and less pogo stick feeling in the front end
You mentioned internal engine issues? What did i miss?
It does not work on my bike ugh
You had engine problems with a band new klr? I was thinking about buying same model
Mine was one of the first few off the production line of the brand new model. couple little quirks with it. Was taking care of under warranty. No issues any longer. No different than buying a new car or anything else nothing's going to be perfect as long as the company backs up their product which they did
I am really confused.... That made such a huge difference. I hated the fact that my KLR felt like it had a Jake brake on it, now that I bypassed it, it is like a new bike, so much smoother. I guess it would be kind of interesting to rig it up to like the pass light momentary switch for those times you do feel like having a jake bake on your KLR HAHAHAHA. Has anyone figured out what Kawa was trying to do with this? I can't think of any reason you would want that much engine braking on a KLR, when I first got the bike I thought something was wrong with it. Ohh what I wanted to say, Is there any reason I would want to put like a rubber plug inside there to prevent corrosion? is there any scenario in which I would ever want to plug it back in?
It's a fuel cut to reduce fuel consumption. With it bypassed you eliminate that fuel cut. So fuel efficiency it the main reason they do it.
@@2talltimadventures huh, I guess that does make sense. I think it was a bit dangerous because on a downshift the rear tire would slide a lot easier. almost like when you are trying to pop start a bike. I guess if you match rpms instead of dump the clutch it’s probably not the same but I went from a 2 stroke to that thing and it felt really wacky.
On that rear spring. What is you weight and size? Will help others judge which one they need.
I am 260lbs currently running the preload on 3 for empty offroad running. If I wanted a more plush road ride I'll drop it to 1. If I'm loaded down for with full luggage I'll up it to 5.
@@2talltimadventures cool thanks
Have you noticed any change in gas mileage ?
I've only had it on for about 80 miles so not enough time to tell. My bet is it will be a tad better.
What kind of fuse did you use? How many amps?. Thanks !
5A mini fuse
I know it’s an old thread but if I have a 3amp instead of 5amp would that still be ok to use? Thanks in advance.
I'm sure it's fine as long as it doesn't pop it.
@@2talltimadventuresthx!
Will it pull the front wheel up now.
I would before. Not on accident but it will do it..lol
I will try.
How about a rev limiter bypass mod.
It runs out of ass around 5600 so what would be the point?
The point would be when it runs out of ass when merging into traffic it shuts down until you shift or back off. My gen 2 did not do this. I guess when they deleted the tach you get a rev limiter.
I quit watching after the shot of the Nice CNC China oil filter cover.
Okay?
The reason you cant tell is the only thing the clutch switch does is allow you to start the bike in gear.
No that is not the only thing it does. It changes the fuel cut , and possibly the timeing a little.
I did this and the fuse blew 🤷🏻
Strange I've never had that happen. Sure you don't have it grounded out somehow or maybe just a faulty fuse
@@2talltimadventures I’m guessing faulty fuse, plugged the plug back into the clutch and it was fine. Ordered the 3D plug today.
While it worked I loved the way it ran
Dude you talk to slow , speed up the vid
Settings- playback speed, then speed it up yourself dude.... 🤣😂
@@durtyred86 no shit bro 🤣🤣🤣
Whiner.