Did you notice this vehicle didn't have green plates? I noticed that too, either this was an early production vehicle and the Ontario MTO didn't recognize it as a PHEV yet, or maybe FCA wanted normal blue plates to match the trim pieces.
OOF. To be fair, the reason I drove this in March and not September as I had originally booked it was because of an active safety recall on this Jeep’s rear diff that took months of back orders to sort out.
Why are all the 4xe videos being done in Canada? Not complaining, just wondering....am I the only 4xe owner in the USA? EDIT: Also, love how they stuck you with the outside white lettering tires too, so ya reversed em. Well done!
Usually the US journalists get the vehicles before us, at least historically. American brands tend to get them out to both markets equally, but the last couple years have been tougher with supply issues.
Just some FYI's: May as well leave it in 4 auto. It's basically like AWD in most SUV's, powering 2 wheels until traction slips, then a clutch engages the other 2 wheels. Very little difference in MPG. Also, it seriously cuts power in 2WD. If you want its full grunt from a stop, you have to be in one of the 4WD modes.
Also, not sure what might be going on in the charging side. I get about 10-12% an hour from a standard wall outlet; charges faster from 0-80, slower from 80-100 like most batteries. Not great if you're hopping in and out of it all day, but even if you're coming home at 10PM and back in it at 7-8AM the next day, you get about 70-80 percent. Obviously, if you're driving it all the time, it might not be the right vehicle, but even so, a 240 volt outlet gets you a full charge pretty quick.
Looking back at this 2 years later, a vehicle like the Land Rover Defender or even the Lexus GX 550 I just featured suits me better, overall those are more comfortable and provide a better experience.
There's no way of getting around that $70K+ sticker, even with all of the incentives and tax credits, personally it's too much. Hope you're better off financially than I am.
It depends, pre-pandemic I found that Chrysler would list their vehicles with a high MSRP but would constantly have nice incentives and deals bringing that price down quite a bit. The Chrysler dealer in my town has an overflowing lot right now, they can't seem to sell any of their vehicles, I wonder if it's due to those discounts no longer existing.
I have no idea what testing you did. The type of driving you do will affect your results, PHEVs are ideal for in-town, diesels better on the highway. Sounds like your results were likely skewed heavily in favour of the diesel.
All of you were wrong on this one: The 4XE needs a battery replacement after ten years at an estimated cost of $5500 US The 4cycl engine will require regular maintenance. Average electric range is 20-22miles. Regen braking on it is nice and will Help your brakes last longer It’s a pig at just shy of 5500 pounds. The 4XE package adds 3500$ to the price contrary to the commentators remarks The Diesel gets better mpgs all around. Period in every test regardless of driving, conditions, altitude, or what pants you wear. Yes I’ve driven this car. It will be worth exactly piss in 3 years when full electric vehicles are available with average ranges of 3-500 miles ESPECIALLY given the absurd price of the wrangler I opted for a 6spd V6 Rubicon that gets 18-20mpg and saved me the 3500 from the 4XE and another 2k by not getting the auto
@@jjames2162 I worked as a tech for many years, the last 7 with FCA then stellanis. Unless you do a ton of highway driving the ecodiesel will never pay for itself when you consider the several grand buy in over the 3.6, it's much higher scheduled maintenance costs (10 liters of penzoil ultra) the filter itself is hilariously priced at nearly 30 bucks, and God forbid you have any emissions issues, and then you hope it makes it 5 years before it just grenades itself. Perhaps the gen 3 will prove more reliable, time will tell. As for the Battery, most will last far more than 10 years. Capacity will probably be much lower but it will still be plenty to serve its purpose as a hybrid even if electric only range dwindles to next to nothing, so the fuel mileage will still be decent. I also doubt the battery will cost anywhere near 5 grand to replace in 10 years. By then some aftermarket company will make one with twice the capacity for 2k.
Did you notice this vehicle didn't have green plates? I noticed that too, either this was an early production vehicle and the Ontario MTO didn't recognize it as a PHEV yet, or maybe FCA wanted normal blue plates to match the trim pieces.
Wow! A quiet Wrangler! I 👍 it!
But will it have the usual Wrangler quality issues? The usual issues plus electric issues....
OOF. To be fair, the reason I drove this in March and not September as I had originally booked it was because of an active safety recall on this Jeep’s rear diff that took months of back orders to sort out.
Nice. I have booked one. Same color. Rubicon. I also live in Quebec (Brossard :)
Hope it works out well for you!
Why are all the 4xe videos being done in Canada? Not complaining, just wondering....am I the only 4xe owner in the USA? EDIT: Also, love how they stuck you with the outside white lettering tires too, so ya reversed em. Well done!
Usually the US journalists get the vehicles before us, at least historically. American brands tend to get them out to both markets equally, but the last couple years have been tougher with supply issues.
Just some FYI's: May as well leave it in 4 auto. It's basically like AWD in most SUV's, powering 2 wheels until traction slips, then a clutch engages the other 2 wheels. Very little difference in MPG. Also, it seriously cuts power in 2WD. If you want its full grunt from a stop, you have to be in one of the 4WD modes.
Also, not sure what might be going on in the charging side. I get about 10-12% an hour from a standard wall outlet; charges faster from 0-80, slower from 80-100 like most batteries. Not great if you're hopping in and out of it all day, but even if you're coming home at 10PM and back in it at 7-8AM the next day, you get about 70-80 percent. Obviously, if you're driving it all the time, it might not be the right vehicle, but even so, a 240 volt outlet gets you a full charge pretty quick.
Good to know!
Nile, I think this Jeep's style suits you. It's pretty cool. But the price (sigh)....
Looking back at this 2 years later, a vehicle like the Land Rover Defender or even the Lexus GX 550 I just featured suits me better, overall those are more comfortable and provide a better experience.
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Thanks!
There's no way of getting around that $70K+ sticker, even with all of the incentives and tax credits, personally it's too much. Hope you're better off financially than I am.
It depends, pre-pandemic I found that Chrysler would list their vehicles with a high MSRP but would constantly have nice incentives and deals bringing that price down quite a bit. The Chrysler dealer in my town has an overflowing lot right now, they can't seem to sell any of their vehicles, I wonder if it's due to those discounts no longer existing.
4xE was tested for fuel economy against a eco diesel here on TH-cam. With electric the 4xE was at 22mpg and the eco diesel was around 25mpg. 4xE sucks
You're analysis sucks. It's a Kw vs Litre cost per Km - when talking about EV/Gas/Diesel comparisons.
I have no idea what testing you did. The type of driving you do will affect your results, PHEVs are ideal for in-town, diesels better on the highway. Sounds like your results were likely skewed heavily in favour of the diesel.
The 4xe will be basically maintenance free for 10 plus years, while the ecodiesel will have needed thousands in repairs and a rebuild every 100k.
All of you were wrong on this one:
The 4XE needs a battery replacement after ten years at an estimated cost of $5500 US
The 4cycl engine will require regular maintenance.
Average electric range is 20-22miles. Regen braking on it is nice and will
Help your brakes last longer
It’s a pig at just shy of 5500 pounds.
The 4XE package adds 3500$ to the price contrary to the commentators remarks
The Diesel gets better mpgs all around. Period in every test regardless of driving, conditions, altitude, or what pants you wear.
Yes I’ve driven this car. It will be worth exactly piss in 3 years when full electric vehicles are available with average ranges of 3-500 miles ESPECIALLY given the absurd price of the wrangler
I opted for a 6spd V6 Rubicon that gets 18-20mpg and saved me the 3500 from the 4XE and another 2k by not getting the auto
@@jjames2162 I worked as a tech for many years, the last 7 with FCA then stellanis. Unless you do a ton of highway driving the ecodiesel will never pay for itself when you consider the several grand buy in over the 3.6, it's much higher scheduled maintenance costs (10 liters of penzoil ultra) the filter itself is hilariously priced at nearly 30 bucks, and God forbid you have any emissions issues, and then you hope it makes it 5 years before it just grenades itself. Perhaps the gen 3 will prove more reliable, time will tell.
As for the Battery, most will last far more than 10 years. Capacity will probably be much lower but it will still be plenty to serve its purpose as a hybrid even if electric only range dwindles to next to nothing, so the fuel mileage will still be decent. I also doubt the battery will cost anywhere near 5 grand to replace in 10 years. By then some aftermarket company will make one with twice the capacity for 2k.