How to make brake lines (SAE and DIN) flaring and bending CuNiFer and Copper.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- The Skoda Felicia Fun needs new brake lines, so what better to do than bore you guys with a other video.
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We, The Dutch Garage, are not responsible for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Information given in this video does not guarantee the desired outcome. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from improper use of the tools, equipment, or the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not The Dutch Garage.
The best comprehensive video online that I have found. Thanks 👍
Thank you so much for this video - exactly what I needed 5 years later. Excellently presented and explained. Top gentleman!
Thank you, glad it was useful.
Very good educational video. I found a lot of misinformation online so its great that this one video goes over the whole process and uses the correct terminology. Thank you very much!
Glad you liked the video!
Novice here...I need to replace a rusted, leaking section of brake line on my 2011 Mercedes E350 and watching your video has given me great knowledge and the self confidence on how to tackle the job myself. Thank you for making the video. Regards from New York.
Great to here! Glad the video helped you out.
Perfectly explained, especially difference between SAE, DIN, and fittings for each. Thanks for superb video (fromUK)
No problem, thanks for the feedback.
Excellent Video - and demo of the steps to make your own brake lines !!
Thank you for effort !!
Great Command of English, !! I' couldn't speak you language no matter how much I tried.
Thank you for the compliments! Glad the video helpt you out.
The most detailed brake line flare video I've seen. Thank you!!!
Thank you!
Congratulations for the video ! Really comprehensive from A-Z. This is the video I didn't find last week when I flared one steel line with a simple tool. Worked like a charm, beginner's luck. Keep up the good work!
The simple tool works fine in most cases. It can save your butt and that makes it a good tool. I just don't want to do a whole car with that thing ever again.
I watched quite few average to poor videos on this subject before I got to this one, and I do not feel the need to go anywhere else now. this the most comprehensive video with some very useful tips and explanations. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge I look forward to watching more from you. I'm subbed
Glad you liked the video!
Best brake video I have seen . Thanks for taking the time to post .
No problem, glad it helped you out.
Thank God I found this! Great explanations, you’re a lifesaver!
No problem, glad we could help.
Thanks for the vid. Given how much misinformation there is out there, it's nice to see a good description of the difference between DIN and SAE as far as the back of the bubble, that is often overlooked. A comment if I may: AFAIK in the US what we call "single flare" is different from what you used the term for. Normally, Single flare means just one wall thickness spread out at a 45. Looks like the double flare without the extra layer folded back in. And concave on the far end. Like a funnel. Not normally used for brake lines. What you called single flare we usually call a bubble flare. Not a criticism, just an observation. Your English is fantastic, btw, kudos!
I did notice that differed parts of the world use different names for the flares. That can makes it confusing indeed. Thank you for the compliments! I appreciate it.
Amazing video, thank you for taking the time to explain in detail.
Sure thing, glad you learned something from it.
Job wel done! And some 💰 saved to spend on the next repair.
I definitely needed this video to explain which flares for each connector. 👌
Excellent video! I have found that annealing the kunifer tube ends before flaring improves the quality of the flare.
Goeie, duidelijke video! Ik wou dat ik hem gevonden had voordat ik aan de remleidingen van mijn Seicento begonnen was
Really useful video. Came across your channel when trying to find a coilover setup for my classic Toyota and then found your instructional videos for the polo (my daily). I'll be doing the brakes on my cressida at some point and this will be really useful. Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks! I appreciate the support. The Cressida is a underrated classic.
It really is, unfortunately most in the UK have been used for banger racing. Replaced the rear shocks on my polo yesterday with the help of your video :)
@@WilliamT1995 That's really a shame. But glad the video helpt you out.
A very useful video, of how to prepare car brake tubes, and how to replace them
Very Good Video, Sir!! I live in the U.S. and will be attempting to make a new pipe with a DIN flare for my Volvo 240.
That's great to hear! thank you for the compliment.
Very great job. Appreciate the way you explain things .you are a good teacher 👌👍🇩🇰
I'm glad that it was useful. 👍
This is the video I was looking for! Thanks for the info. I have to make a line for my civic.
Really good video, very informative. Unfortunately the auto-generated translation into English was terrible, but your English was very good. So, outstanding, thank you. I have been learning all about brake line flares now for two days, stuff I never knew about in my long backyard mechanic work.
Good video.. hard to find info for us inexperienced. Thanks for sharing.... keep it up... I decide to add than DIN stands for German Institute for Standards and is the same as ISO International Organization for Standards Worldwide.. SAE is Society of Automotive Engineers. As for long tube that is hard to hold and has many bends at weird configurations it is better to put some Spring Guard on for under the car protection and at bends.. Cost more but it is much easier to bend..... I found all this out because i bought a Eastwood Tube Flair Tool and the directions suck. This video filled in all the gaps i was looking for.
I think you can fill books only on this subject. I think i did just the basics and some pointers form my experience. Thank you for watching!
Great video as always. Would love to see a video of you welding the sills 👍
Thank you, About the welding maybe a other time.
Enjoyed your sense of humor... Detailed explanation of the different styles out there. I purchased the red box style and after two tries it will never work on a brake line in it's future. It has a use I know I just have not found it yet but I will keep it for when the brain has that ah ha moment. Cost 22$ on Amazon Neiko branded. Working on a 2010 Hyundai Elantra where it has coated steel lines; only the sections directly under the car where road salts attacked it are being replaced with the copper/nickel and the proper unions. Purchased the Cal-Van-165 inline as a replacement for 56$ US giving that one a shot tomorrow. If that fails I will take the deep dive for 300$ for the Mastercool 72475-PRC Universal hydraulic flaring tool set; I have four cars and all will need brake lines at some point in time so I would like to have a set that works on a center line as your bench style does but I want to be able to use it under the automobile easily. In a perfect world where money is not a factor the Mastercool is the best out there from what I have been able to discern. Nice bends and it seems you could improve the vise style with a holder for the zero load side(Left side) although the hand works perfectly well ;) .
Thank you for your kind words! There are hydraulic ones that you can easily use underneath the car. they are around that price point also, coated lines you have to clean-up real good. I do think that quality with the basic versions is A big factor. 20 usd or one from An A-Brand would definitely be a differed experience.
@@TheDutchGarage An update as I did receive the Cal-Van version of the tool and yes it works and works well. The only issue I ran into which makes sense as if you don't watch the forming die side it may slightly mis-align that makes it is easy to cross thread the "plunger side" into the forming die but with attention it works and makes a perfect flare. There are others out there similar with a handle which might prove even easier but you only get one size die where this kit gives you five to choose from. I did watch for the coating issue that you talked about but it did come out clean without any extra effort on my part. Funny but in my excitement to try the tool and make the first flare I did forget to put the fitting on first. Go figure but step one is now embedded in my brain.. :).
On the red style I noticed the fatal flaw whether it be a 22 dollar unit or the 400 you paid. That style is all the same no matter what you pay for it. The flaw is that the die mating surface to the cone should match giving the die zero chance to go off level. The thing wants to pivot unless you watch it and correct it. Problem solved and you could tool it but for a couple extra you can get what was tooled correctly. It amazes me that they make and sell so many of that style. I got suckered into it, had I done the job right away I could have returned it but it wasn't something I needed to take on right away and the principal looked ok. Live and learn.
Good explanations of everything. Helped me loads. Only thing missing was a view of the inside of a mating connector to show how a bubble flare and double flare fits
Thank you for your feedback, I really appreciate it.
Greetings from the USA! Well done! Cheers.
Thanks!
Great information, thank you! I was wondering a few things about the lines on my E32 BMW and your video helped.
That's always nice to hear. Glad it helped in some way or form.
What excellent information!
One the lines from the ABS pump going to the rear brakes the Gen 1 R53 BMW Mini has 10mm DIN on one rear brake line and 12mm on the other presumably so the lines do not get crossed.
Glad it is of use.
Your English is better than us Brits!😂,great video.
I don't know if that is a compliment...😂
Now I know there are two different types of flares:SAE and DIN which I think my 1998 Jetta Wolfsburg edition requires the DIN type of flare....got to return my SAE flare kit to Amazon.
If u need DIN, think about spending the money and buying something like the geodore 234001, or if ur rich Hazet 2191/12K. Quality tools..
Great instructional video thank you!!!
No problem 👍
Great video. Very informative since I wanna make one end DIN and the other SAE.
It can be done of course. But I try to use one system.
Very well explained thank for the video greeting from Ann Arbor Michigan
Thanks, glad it was useful.
Looks like a decent tube bending tool sold under the EASTWOOD brand name #49074; not expensive. Of course, they have other styles as well. Not sure what brand that more expensive flaring tool you have but they have one that looks like it #25304. I was kind of surprised you didn't have a bending tool given the other expensive tools you have. Good video with detailed explanation. There is a kit sold for making the bubble flare sort of like the inherited kit you had for single and double flares.
Eastwood sells a lot of nice products. To bad we don't have them here in Europe. But a bender isn't a bad thing to have especially if you are bending steel or stainless.
I like the Video, now i understand the difference between DIN and SAE.
Now the question for me is: can U can make double DIN Flares when the Car has normaly SAE flares, if u use the right nippels with the same threading as before (but the DIN Flare) right?
Or does the fitting cause seal problems with the flare on the car adapter
Whats with professional Tools also suitable for steel Lines? Like Geodore 234001 for DIN, or Hazet 2191/12K. I think its worth spending the 300 Euros to get a quality Tool for something this important.
The second tool was so much better!
It definitely is, but it is also a lot more expensive.
Thank you so much. Your explained everything i needed to know!
That is great to hear!
Awesome job! I take this tips with me. Tanks😊
No problem!
Thank you! You explaned all verry clearly.
No problem!
@@TheDutchGarage Question: Is it possible to make a Bubble flare with the Dubble flare kit, by only jusing the flat site and the black adapter of the Dubble kit tool? They say/claim the result is almost as the same and indentical as a Bubble flare using the real Bubble flare tool, can you maybe conform this by trying it. I like to hear your oppinion if this is correct/true. Maybe you can also make a video about this to find out and show us of this claim is real or not, so that we know. Thanks!
@@alyunanie I have seen people did it with great results. I personally never used it so i cant tel from experience.
Love the video. Very informative
Come on dude were is the next video 😊. Thank you for your support.
At 18:00 I think you are incorrect to describe the middle pipe flare as SAE single flare. SAE double flare is formed using a two stage operation. The first stage makes a bubble that is similar to a DIN bubble flare and the second stage makes a (double skinned) trumpet. A SAE single flare is made by missing the first operation and just making a (single skinned) trumpet. So SAE flares are
1) Perform operation #1 only - gives a DIN like bubble flare with a tapered rear
2) Perform operations #1 and #2 - gives the SAE double flare
3) Perform operation #2 only - gives the SAE single flare (never use with brake systems)
Yeah i was looking for this post., as I was gonna point this out as well....this should be pinned, or at least noted somewhere.
A single flare is a 45 degree flare that looks like a funnel, and double "Looks" the same except the material is folded over, reinforcing it.
You did not explain the following. DIN only has one operation and only makes
a bubble flare witch in SAE is the first operation only. Therefore, if using DIN only, you are left with male fittings. If you want to join two male DIN fittings together when using DIN only, you need a female to female connector called a bubble flare union.
Really helpful video, shame suppliers don't state whether union fittings are din or sae!
It is always a bit af a hassle but if you know were to look for it isn't that complicated. But that's with everything in life.
Thank you for your time Amazing job
Thank you for your support.
THE BEST.👍👍👍
Thank you.
What i was looking for. Thanks!
Glad it was usefull.
Great video, thank you sir.
No problem!
Fantastic,I learn a lot... Thank you
Great to hear!
Just wow, thank u so much
thank you good job
Here in the states the brake line wrench is named the flare nut wrench.
A yes, I heard that therm before thank you!
Well done, I learned a lot.
That is great to hear!
Good informative video :) thank you !
Good the hear it is helpful.
nice job my man.
Thank you.
Very good Dutch!
Just doing my best.
What if you have 2 pipes and want to join them together using the DIN flare?
Can you just use a male and female union? Would the two DIN flares just crush together?
Or would you have to use a double female connector and a male connector on each pipe?
Yes your last paragraph...3 pieces needed.
Good demo thanks a lot !
Glad you liked it!
Great video.
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Turn over the old cheap looking clamp tool to the flat side ie. opposit of the bevelled side, and flare it like the sae and you'll get the din.
That is what I heard more people do, I will try that for my self. Thank you for the comment.
Well done,just a bit more light please !
You are absolutely right, lights is a big issue indeed. I shot this with two soft boxes already. But after this video I did get a better camera and I just ordered some better garage lighting. But thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
This is a great video
thank you my friend :-)
Very nice video.
What about the fifth line on your Felicia that leads exhaust fumes back to tank? Its thinner than fuel lines but thicker than brake lines. Do you think it could be replaced with standard copper nickel brake tube?
You can get these lines in different sizes. I do believe 6mm is the first step up.
New (ish) vehicles and they need new brake lines! Says a lot about todays manufacturing standards, I have two cars; one is 26 and the other is 36 years old, neither need new pipes. But at a recent safety test it was advised the older of the two, should have its pipes replaced.
One big problem we have over here is a lot of road salt. Also people aren't to keen in spending money on maintenance.
Excellent thank you 👍
Thank you!
Hi, the DIN and the SAE are both „bubble flares“ and not a „single flare“. The single and double flare are both trumpet shaped but in order to make a double flare you have to use ops 1 from the SAE bubble flare first and than step 2 you fold the bubble in to create a folded in trumpet called a double flare.
Oh and about your „lousy Euro“, you might have forgotten about the times when one important prep for any vacation was to get enough of the right currency and the banks always (paypal still does) charge a nice amount for exchanging. It is not the currency that is bad it is bad businesses that take advantage and up the prices when a new currency arrives.
Hi there, well "we"call it the single and double flare. But the official naming is DIN/SAE convex and SAE double.
You and I don't stand on the same side of the debate on the euro, and that's fine. Sure the euro has it's pros. But in my up pinion more cons.
The Dutch Garage
Hi, thanks for your nice response. Of course I don’t want to start a discussion about things that neither of us can change. I also respect your opinion as you did mine but just out of curiosity, I live in Germany at the moment and as an „enduser“ cannot name one disadvantage of this currency within the EU. I do have exchange rate charges when I buy my Jaguar parts in England but when I order from the Netherlands I don’t have such charges, now guess where I order my parts from. I am just curious if you could tell me about your personal disadvantages or negative experience with the Euro. Just your opinion, not a discussion.
Thanks and stay healthy,
Bernhard
So with sae you need an op 1 male to op2 female, am I right in saying with din both male and female are same flare?
If it makes the same sound , than use a bit of grease
amazing video:) Thank you
Thank you!
30:00 amigo, essa ferramenta foi comprada ou fabricada por voce? (Brasil)
Hi there, it is a tool that I bought.
How much is elongation % of brake coil?
Excellent
Thank you.
Thank you
No porblem.
How do you make two fuel lines on your girlfriend's Felicia? They are lot thicker. Can you use copper nickel?
Hi can you use the first half of a double flare to make a bubble flare I have the proper die (din)
I did do it in the past without any problems. But still it isn't advised.
thanks master
No problem!
Thanks
No problem!
That is not a single flare … it is called a bubble flare. A single flare would just be a double flare that has not been folded onto itself.
volgende keer goede informatie (waarvoor dank!) niet mixen met niet al te geslaagde leukigheid
Bedankt voor de feedback, helaas is mijn humor niet voor iedereen.
Your dads old flare kit is only £14.99 at Toolstation in the UK.
You can get them very cheap nowadays.
I need to buy still tools for that pipe
If get customers in Dublin I will go and buy it there
I will fest need the tools
Just done my car
You care about your girlfriend, so you know what you did wrong. Good luck pal.
Okay.
You say din double flare.
I say mushroom head.
You say sae double flare.
I say inverse flare.
You say single flare.
I say double flare.
🤣 As long as you know what you need for your car.
Lousy Euro:)