How Powerful is Every Legendary Pokemon CANONICALLY?
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Legendary Pokemon can range from rare creatures to literal gods, today I break down their powers to rank them from worst to best!
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What are you favorite Legendary Pokemon?
Xerneas
Infernape but dialga is pretty good too
Palkia and Yveltal! 😤
Ho oh
In order of generation
Zapdos
Raikou
Kyogre
Dialga
Landorus
Zygarde
(I’m gonna count UBs as legendaries)
Buzzwole
Urshifu
Canon is a strong word when you're talking about Pokemon lol
“I could explain why this legendary varies wildly in power between the games, anime, and manga, but first we’d need to talk about parallel universes.”
I mean remember when MewTwo was bested by a Tyranitar?
@@reptileescape3619 type advantage.
After oras, after sun and moon. It's one of those series where canon is so loose anything anyone makes up is now considered canon due to the limited canon we have, multiverse
A more accurate word would be lore wise
In a recent part of the Pokemon Anime, Dialga can just deage other Pokemon if it wanted to. It could turn a level 100 Pokemon to level 1 and devolve it which is rather insane.
Then plakia and giratina can also or an I wrong?
@@iwillhelpyou613 I'm not sure why they would, because controlling time is kind of Dialga's thing.
@@iwillhelpyou613 that doesn't make sense. Girarina is antimatter, Palkia is space.
That was genuinrely scary how there was nothing you can do about it... except praying to Arceus that he'll stop it.
@@Flamelance_Accendo It does. Dialga is Time, it's reversing time on that specific pokemon therefore it devolving
Seeing mega rayquaza dealing with 6 legends and hoopa alone shows the true strength of that legend
Doesn't that feat come from one of the movies which are barely considered Canon
@@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong the same channel literally considered the movies canon in the Mythical Powerlevel video lol
this was the same movie where Wobbafett bounced back Giratina's attack so take that with a grain of salt.
@@curseofgladstone4981i still like to think that the Creation Trio that appeared was just somekind of illusion
Like, there's no way hoopa could actually control some Gods lol.
@@curseofgladstone4981 its Wobbafett what else did you expect to happen?
I always like remembering that giratina is literally keeping the world's balance in tact (begrudgingly) because it got put in a time-out by its dad. I get serious neglected big brother having to watch over his two spoiled little siblings vibes, especially when there's a whole ass movie of him being pissed off at the other two lmao
Darkrai was so cool in that movie
@@NonoVFX pretty sure he is talking about "giratina and the sky warrior"
@@nobody5814 i havent watched the movies in for too long haha but the movie with darkrai also had the same thing with giritina trapped and palkia and dialga fighting.
Canonically, Mesprit Uxie and Axel are just a step below Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. They separated from Arceus right after the first three, and together represent Arceus' desire to create the universe, as well as the strength to maintain it.
In fact, they're so powerful that they need to stay constantly asleep to maintain said universe. The Lake Trio we see are just astral projections from their real bodies, sleeping deep within the supernatural lakes in their caves.
In fact, all of the creation trios (those pixies included) were avatars in the pokemon world. They're literally concepts that gave any sort of logic and reality in the pokemon verse.
most of the legendaries were abstract or avatars from their origin forms, in fact Palkia and Dialga were finally revealed their true form
Bro are u high?
My views of the lake trio is tainted by PMD Explorers where the three didn't even win against a grovyle.
@@AlexandroPantano let me check... yes
HIGH ON AMERICAN SPIRIT
i wish Fairy was given to Cresselia to actually counter Darkrai like it does in the games and anime
But Cresselia and Darkrai don’t really fight. Cresselia just cleans up the messes Darkrai makes
@@averytubestudios Tell that to Mystery Dungeon
@@SomeGuy-cf2lp I forgot about that when I wrote this comment
@@SomeGuy-cf2lp Different universe, Pokemon is a multiverse stated by Oras and Ultra Sun
@@SomeGuy-cf2lp non canon
The lake trio is absolutely underrated here. Being able to erase the memories of someone, drain their emotions, or control their bodies is absolutely terrifying- not to mention that Azelf can also drain the will to move from someone's body. Even when you're talking about each of them individually, powers over certain aspects of the minds is pretty insane. And I know this is probably due to the individuality thing, but the fact that the three of them combined can match one of the creation trio does imply a lot of strength. Not to mention the fact that they have to sleep at the bottom of their respective lakes to keep the world in balance. I feel like they should at least be one tier higher.
Who the hell told you they match the power of the creation trio? They can only calm them down not match their powers.Still I also think they need to be higher on this list
Agreed. Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Sky/Darkness showed how cool the lake trio were.
@@prabh4489 mystery dungeon isnt canon
@@princyipe-tv1eq they don’t match the power of a creation trio member definitely it’s just that their powers together can somehow calm down Dialga and Palkia and even create Red Chain to control them
@@libsh5684 Mystery Dungeon is *a* canon.
This is way too late but a small reminder about Rayquaza: In it's BASE form, it folded BOTH primal kyogre & Groudon while in base, add mega and oh dear-
When/where did that happen?
Not denying it, just sounds like an awesome thing to watch.
@dmaxwell910901 As someone who only played the games, I need answers too 😢
@@N..P.. I guess emerald? Idk have never played that
@@dmaxwell910901 Emerald. However, primal forms weren't a thing in that, so it's kind of a conflation of ORAS and Emerald.
@Burgermeister1836 That didn't happen in Emerald. It roared, and they both stopped fighting. That's not exactly "folding" them
Honestly latios/Latias could be higher. They saved a town from a Tsunami/massive wave while being in a greatly weakened state
That’s what I was thinking
Let's not forget that Latios died. So, no. They could've stopped the tsunami and both lived if not weakened. But nothing more.
Ok but we don't really know what they would've have done in their best state
@@Brian25174 exactly. I am sure you cannot perform to the best of your ability if team rocket is literally trying to kill you
Well considering Pokémon I’d say a pikachu could do that
Funny how people call them the legendary dogs, when they're CATS.
Suicune is a leopard, Entei is a lion, and Raikou is a sabretooth.
Oh yeah
I don't even know some people are calling them Legendary Dogs, I've always referred to them as Legendary Beasts
@@rifatbobos same
I've always wondered how raikou is a "dog"
Arent they foxes? Reincarnated eeveloutions strengthened by ho-oh's power?
6:08 "please don't call them the legendary dogs.."
6:15 "Entei's BARK is said to erupt volcanoes.."
Man, that's ruff
Entei is probably the most dog like of them tbh
Dogs are far from the only animal that barks...
The interesting part about Necrozma is that its true form essentially is/was a living star before the people got too greedy for more energy and broke it trying to harness more of it's energy for themselves, triggering the violent rampages across dimensions trying to fill its void and end its suffering.
I suppose in a way it's a testament to the power of Solgaleo/Lunala that they provide it enough power to reignite itself if only temporarily.
Yup. Like I keep saying to many, *MANY* people, Necrozma is basically a superorganism that was exploited into becoming a cornered, starving creature. It's not some all-powerful cosmic being, it's still an animal at the end of the day.
Necrozma definitely isn't near the level of Arceus or even the creation trio. However, you still have to recognize the fact that in lore, Ultra Necrozma is responsible for essentially giving light to the entire multiverse, which would still put him pretty high up in the tier. Solgaleo and Lunala would be pretty high up as well for providing Necrozma with the light necessary to regain it's true form, Ultra Necrozma.
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yeah Necrozma is by far more powerful then Arceus easily, where Arcreus created one universe Necrozma destroyed multiple universes easily. Praise Necrozma.
Necrozma didn't destroy any universes. He simply stole the light from them. Also, both games and anime establish that Arceus created the multiverse, not just one universe.
He destroyed them by draining them of light and leaving them lifeless and dead, whereas Arceus has only been known to have created the Pokémon world not other realities and universes.
I can maybe see them on par with one another, but Necrozma is definitely not weaker considering it’s a sentient star killer.
Actually, there's a simpler way of explaining why Dialga/Palkia/Giratina are stat-wise weaker than Necrozma and Eternatus, and it is to simply accept that stats aren't canon, something Gen 7 went out of its way to demonstrate.
What did Gen 7 do?
@@reido_dorito Made base Necrozma beat Lunala in a cutscene, despite Lunala having better stats pretty much across the board, a better ability, and a type advantage.
And both abilities and types are definitely canon, which leaves stats as the only thing to be relegated as "purely game mechanic".
Ash haven’t captured any Legendary Pokémon. Just hoping for Ash to catch calyrex due to the fact that calyrex is one of the most overpowered Legendary Pokémon & calyrex is one of my favorite Legendary Pokémon, Ash is going to be an overpowered trainer after capturing calyrex, he is going to be champion for sure.
@@kerrywien6775 Nobody in this thread was talking about Ash, Calyrex, or Gen 8 at all... ...did you comment on the wrong thread by chance?
@@elfmonster1476 Wait just to check, do you mean how Necrozma beat Lunala in the anime or in the game? Cause the latter can just be explained by saying Nebby just evolved so had no idea how to really use her full potential.
_I think that Tao Trio should be ranked as Earth altering._
_Alder stated that Reshiram/Zekrom could destroy the world and it's implied that Kyurem caused an ice age._
why is this comment in italics
@@lonredstar6904 _Yes_
@@lonredstar6904
He wrote it while in Italy
Yeah the Tao Trio should've been ranked as Earth Altering.
Resh and Zek were said to be able to burn the whole planet because of the absurd amount of energy their tails produce.
Kyurem, which is just an empty shell, was already a match to them back in Gen5. Gen8's updated Dex entry mentions that his power is actually much bigger (and that it could freeze the whole world), so it's not like this is some outdated data from 10 years ago, the new info still supports it. Not to mention that Kyurem was stated to be the most powerful Dragon too (which is crazy, cuz Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina were around when Kyurem debuted). And by fusing with either one, he can add that power to his own and it's still not completed/at max power
Really makes you wonder just how stupidly powerful the Original Dragon was
Yea they deserve to be up a tier
13:14 Another thing for Regigigas slightly mentioned here, is that upon awakening, it takes a while for it to get into gear. This feat said here isn't even close to its full power, with its attack and speed HALVED upon first coming in, meaning that if it isn't awake for at least a couple minutes it's at half strength.
bAau😮
It feels so weird seeing Heatran and Regigigas in such different places of a tier list.
heatran is in the arceus movie
Interestingly enough, in the pokemon adventures manga, it took complete form Zygarde, Solgaleo, and Lunala to take down Ultra Necrozma.
Ultra necrozma is super strong bith power wise and canon wise
I mean necrozma is like the destroyer of the universe so
@@theadmiral4157 Yet it only takes Palkia to point at and say, "Stop right there criminal scum!" And that'll simply halt Necrozma in it's tracks. But if Arceus were to encounter Necrozma, all he would had to say is, "It's sad that Steve Jobs died from Ligma..." and just dissipate Necrozma out of existence with the "Ligma Balls" punchline
From what I know zygarde actually soloed ultra necrozma
The part ultra shouldve covered this already
What I love is that many of the Gen 1 Legendaries are towards the bottom (birds), the Legendary Beasts from Gen 2 are more towards the middle (alongside Ho-Oh and Lugia), Gen 3 has the trio even higher with earth-altering powers, and Gen 4 literally has the gods of the pokemon world.
It's like the insane powercreep from these first four gens had to stop going forward, and the powerlevels became less "WORLD-ENDING THREAT" and more contained.
Those 1 billion Lions aint looking too strong now
😂😂😂
So here is the issue, zekrom and reshiram have crazy destructive power but they also embody entire concepts such as justice and truth which puts them very high given the fact that embodying a concept would put them up there with life and death
Concept power is what Darkseid is just thing about that
@@vegetalover9297 exactly and it’s also stated multiple times that they could destroy the world of burn it to ash and by multiple sources, and kyurem himself was stated to have most likely caused an ice age
@@DanVerbatim Where was it stated that Kyurem caused an ice age? I know there's the whole tale about Volcarona acting as a replacement for the sun but I don't think freezing temperatures would block the sun out.
@@oyeh8908 it has a move literally called ice age and the other two have statements saying they can turn the world to ash and he is stated to be the strongest of the 3
@@oyeh8908 wait I’m thinking sheet cold but my prior point still stands as well as the fact that a concentration of his powers were enough to completely decimate a city in a few shots
The Tao Trio definitely should be in Earth Altering tier. I highly doubt that it being stated that they are capable of destroying the planet isn't just exaggeration or hyperbole. Because after N summoned Zekrom/Reshiram into his throne, by simply exerting their energy, the lightning/fire they produced generated enough power and heat to instantly vaporize the moat in N's Throne Room. That's around 25232°F or 14000°C of heat being produced.
To be fair, heat is kinda wacky
Isn't the fire snail twice the heat of our sun?
@@vanillagorillaog I'm pretty sure its only the surface of our sun, which is ~10k degrees hot, it would be a completely different scenario if it was twice the heat of the core of our sun which is ~27 million degrees hot.
@@diegoquezada3193 might as well say core, having it be the surface doesn't change what it would effect in realizm
@@dragonmaster3030 I mean yeah regardless, a snail with a body temperature of 10k degrees hot is going to practically be invincible in a realistic scenario.
With Lugia being my childhood favorite ledgy I’m quite pleased with its ranking since it was featured in one of the very first Pokémon movies. If it was introduced later in the franchise when unimaginable godlike powers were being given to various Pokémon I’m almost certain it would rank higher.
Which Pokémon would destroy your team the fastest?
1: Ultra Necrozma, with a 200 power move that is capable of vaporizing the universe.
or
2: one angery monke that got so angerey he turned into a ghost
Monke
I think that legendaries can be in multiple places at once, giving the illusion that there are multiple. The “no special powers” and “niche powers” legends are basically minor gods or immortal nature spirits.
I mean yeah. Legendary pokemon are just the pantheon of the pokemon world.
Looking at polytheistic mythologies throught hystory not all gods are equal. (See tv tropes our gods are different)
I see them as demigods, mostly.
@@elfmonster1476 considering in many cultures the entities we in the west call "demigods" are realy just minor dieties in their own right...
Demi literally means "half" referring to split parantage (my dog is a demipoodle) so unless zapdos is what hapens when a fearow and lightning incarnate have a baby, we're talking about the same thing here.
@@dallinmoody1297 I am aware. I consider stuff like Lugia and such to be minor gods. I don't consider something like Articuno to be a proper god, hence, demi.
And then Koraidon and Miraidon come out and they're just past/future Cyclizar and there's many of them just like any normal pokemon lol.
Please make the mythical pokémon list too! I love them so much and hate the fact that some of them are impossible to get legitimately nowadays and that they're so exclusive that they don't have as much lore in the games as the films
Gen 6-8 mythicals deserved better!
In that case, is it possible to keep the tier "Unrealized Powers" and dedicate it to Phione? Think of Phione like poor man's Manaphy not just in terms of battle prowess, but lore-wise as well, especially since eggs bred in captivity by Manaphy or Phione (ditto required due to the celibacy despite the "masculine" traits) are Phione eggs and not Manaphy. Also, Phione lacks a certain trait, for the purposes of lore, that Manaphy has. (And yes, that one trait is the reason Manaphy should be considered niche.)
Oh yeah, and Meltan thanks to Melmetal existing, let alone the whole gigantamax factor shenanigans.
@@Pika250 Yes, it is hard to classify these mythicals especially because they have like zero lore in the games. I think he would have to rely on researches, Bulbapedia articles and Pokédex entries, but I think he gather enough information and make a cool video
100% agree! Need that mythical list! I find I love the mythical pokemon usually more than the legends.
My Favorite Legendary Pokémon is eternatus which is a Poison/Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon & eternatus is The Third Legendary Dragon of Gen 8. This Legendary Pokémon Have Amazing Powers & An Awesome Design, it’s a freaking SKELETON DRAGON Turning into A Thousand Headed Dragon with Thousand Hands Like Heads and CAPABLE OF Warping Time & Space. Just Hoping For The Gen 9 Third Legendary Pokémon To Be a Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon.
The Tao Trio should for sure be earth altering, like you said their pillars of fire and electricity was said to have created the rivers in Unova which by definition is earth altering
agreed if they all fused together and made the orignal dragon they would be number 1 on the tier list
The energy trio (yes I call them that because of the alchemy and their design/lore ties) are said in their Pokédex entries to be individually capable of destroying the entire world. Zekrom and Reshiram are insanely strong. Like the video points out it may be hyperbole but I doubt it in this case.
@ThunderfaaalMEMES nah, I think the original dragon would be on the universal threat tier with necrozma and eternitus. Lore wise, the creation trio would still be stronger, they're multiversal concepts in physical form.
I would love to see a video like this, but with all legendaries, mythicals and ultra beasts. I feel darkrai would be quite high on the tier list given the events of the pokemon mystery dungeon series
Ho-Oh and Lugia should be with the other box legendaries. The subtle way their powers were explained was a product of their time. If they came out today, their fire and weather abilities would be emphasized.
Damn. I just added something like this myself before I started reading the comments. Glad I'm not alone in this 🤪
They’re on the same tier it’s the Black and White box legendaries. Sounds about right.
Regigigas is is actually top tier. In the manga giratina litterally trys to sneak attack and regigigas stops it by turning around grabbing him and just slamming him to the ground and then giratina runs away. (Theirs even a chance hes still in slow start but thats debatable) And while it still clearly hurt him he survived a simultaneous attack from plakia and dialga. Also in the movie when they have him fight hoopa he just tanks hoopas attacks and he has to teleport him away while reshiram and zekrom are clearly getting hurt. Hes deffinitely in the top echelon.
The only problem i could see with this is if you dont accept the adventures manga as cannon but its been around since the beginning just like the anime and has had a continuouss plot following every single game. Its also pretty consistent so i would see no reason not too. It doesnt even contradict the games since he never gets a chance to do anything their.
Regigigas is underrated
I’m pretty sure the only things in continuity with the games are the games themselves. The anime is its own continuity, and so is Adventures, and so are the numerous other manga adaptations. One thing I will say is that I believe Adventures has been stated to be the closest to the original ideas for the games, so legendaries are probably closer to their canonical power levels than they are in other adaptations, but I’d still say to stick to the games when measuring how strong legendaries are in the game’s continuity.
THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE A IN REGIGIGAS!
@@Amelia4111 There is only one a in regigigas
@@Amelia4111 my bad
Sad to see Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres in such a low position 😞 Have loved them since I started playing Pokémon at the age of six!
Personally I get that since we are mortal beings the idea of time is extremely daunting, but if we are to think space in Pokémon exist for eternity palkia is always going to be stronger than dialga time because his domain transcends time for eternity. Anything dialga could do, like turn the world ten thousand years into the past or future, sure that would wipe out all of humankind and most likely normal mons, but that would just be a blip in palkia’s timeline.
I have a theory: the Red Chain is actually effective against Dialga and Palkia, but ONLY in their origin forms. In DPPt, they are Altered, and in Legends Arceus it is used against the Altered form legendary before the Origin form appears. The Red Chain and Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf appear to be connected to Arceus, which further makes sense that it would work on the Origin forms that are more similar to Arceus/the forms Arceus originally made them in. But as they grew and changed to their Altered form, they lost that connection, hence the Red Chain losing its power
But that doesn't explain how they got controlled literally in DP. Lets just say it has 50% chance to work lol.
Didn’t it work on Dialga and Palkia in Platinum? Also I feel that Giratina is far stronger than Dialga and Palkia canonically
it worked on Dialga and Palkia in Diamond/Pearl better then it did against them in Legends.
It is actually stated that spirit>matter and that is why this chain is supposed to work
@@jatarokemuri5443 I certainly think so as most duos and trios have a pokemon strong enough to stop them if they went rogue so I would imagine that Giratina would be stronger even if just to balance out the other two.
I think Heatran is kinda underrated because it always gives off the vibe of an ancient creature that casually vibes on one of the most dangerous places you could be as an adventurer and meeting it means you ventured far beyond the reasonable traffic Route to challenge/catch a lavabathing metal monster that eats Onixes as appetizers.
It's that sudden Dark Souls boss you meet in a secluded area and jumpscares you with it's healthbar
Seems like he would be cool to hang out with
He's literally one of the weakest legendaries ever, and lame asf
@@supersaiyannigga5980 u clearly haven't watched legend arceus special episodes.
@@supersaiyannigga5980not if comepetitive says anything. hes everywhere 😂
And of course how could we forget about bidoof? Destroyer and Creator of universes
I always thought the legendary beasts were examples of the apex predators or "kings" of wildlife. Like how Tigers are the actual kings of the jungle (Raikou), lions being actually kings of the plains (Entei) and wolves (ig?) Being kings of the forest (Suicune). But that's just my head canon.
I'd say bears>wolves in the forest aspect tbh.
Hey, the Red Chain did exactly what it was supposed to do both times. In Legends, it made capturing Palkia/Dialga possible as implied by dialogue after the other appears, and its shards were able to create a pokeball that could contain and calm a raging god, so thats pretty decent. And in D/P, it worked perfectly. The only reason it failed is that the lake trio themselves showed up to destroy it, which, as demonstrated in Platinum, is the only thing that stopped Cyrus from controlling the creation duo perfectly.
*Creation Trio. Not duo. It's Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina.
16:00 isn't Zygarde literally prepared to deal with Necrozma? On the manga, where they actually fought, Zygarde was specifically asked to NOT KO Necrozma, as otherwise it would take Alola's light to power up again, and even holding back, it actually managed to hold Ultra Necrozma back with Thousand Waves, with the only reason for it being separated after taking a Photon Geyser being that no one with a Poké Ball came in time before Necrozma freed itself (and even then, Zygarde returned to the fight just a bit after without healing itself, so it might not even be truly KOed at that point, but more evading the attack)
The Manga is its own Canon and has no bearing on the Games.
@@attackcrash0787 the video obviously uses multiple sources since the games don't even give that much by themselves, just look at Mewtwo - besides, there's nothing really that indicates Necrozma or Eternatus are really on a level that Zygarde can't handle (even Eternatus is handled by Zacian + Zamazenta, who are multiple tiers lower, while Zygarde is supposed overwhelm even Xerneas or Yveltal
Oh wow, Zygarde actually did something in Alola in the manga! Another point for Aventures/Special!
Afaik it was Zygarde with the light duo and again the point does hold that Necrozma wasn't at full power either since its source was not permanent. Even then it kind of one shotted Zygarde with Photon Geyser.
@@sageblast3143 at the end of the battle, it was Zygarde with the light duo - at the start where Zygarde trapped Necrozma and was asked to not KO it so that they could capture it, it was Zygarde alone. The Photon Geyser part was also kinda confusing - we have Moon who's a character with the literal gimmick of using medicines and was explicity shown healing Solgaleo, yet Zygarde came back out of nowhere without the help of any trainer, and before Necrozma even attacked back, it transformed into Complete, this time explicity saying it was via the Power Construct ability as it was weakened after the Photon Geyser (as it initially transformed into Complete on its own, before the battle even started)
Aside from Arceus, I’d actually say the next strongest Mythical Pokémon is probably Darkrai. While not having much to go off of in the core series games aside from whole Cresselia bit, as soon as you step into the spin-off canon (some of which can be tied into the core series), some of the things Darkrai can do are absolutely ridiculous.
Just for some examples, it’s immune to the Shadow Crystal in Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia, which is known to be able to mind control all Pokémon within a 500 mile radius, it was the catalyst behind all of the chaos in Mystery Dungeon: Explorers, and it can literally mind wipe other Pokémon and enslave entire populations as seen in PokéPark 2.
Deoxys ripped Rayquaza apart in their movie aside from that _one_ hyper beam
@@kartiksaraf4676 Rayquaza still better
My Favorite Legendary Pokémon is eternatus which is a Poison/Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon & eternatus is The Third Legendary Dragon of Gen 8. This Legendary Pokémon Have Amazing Powers & An Awesome Design, it’s a freaking SKELETON DRAGON Turning into A Thousand Headed Dragon with Thousand Hands Like Heads and CAPABLE OF Warping Time & Space. Just Hoping For The Gen 9 Third Legendary Pokémon To Be a Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon.
@@vegetalover9297 of course. I bow to the green snake
Strongest mythical not counting arceus is definitely deoxys. He is commonly stated as a planetary threat.
OMGGGGGG thankyouuuu, I enjoyed watching it and learning more about Pokémons thankyouuuu
Definitely, *definitely* underrating Mesprit/Azelf/Uxie, they're stated in various places to be able to control people and manipulate them (Mespirt throws emotions into dissaray, Uxie can make you forget things, and Azelf is just super cruel). Eternatus is also not universe-level and is nowhere near Necrozma (making pokemon big and terrorizing a region is not UNIVERSAL level, whereas Necrozma literally travels to different universes like a plague).
The lake trio togheter are also equivelant one of the creatio trio members, that alone should put them on the godlike tier
@@thelastmlg2699 the lake trio are basically weaker versions of the creation trio so they should def be universal. Also the creation trio is a weaker version of themselves like the arceus we know.
Thoughts for a potential Mythical Tier List:
Mew has to be high because its said that it was the building block of all Pokémon
Victini has to be high because...well it's said to always win I guess?
And Meloetta has to be high due to its ability to completely remove your willingness to fight with its music...which is actually incredibly busted when you really think about it.
And then there is Hoopa who just Yolo’s around with any legendary because it feels like it
Keldeo from its movie has to be high for sure, taking on Kyurem and all of its formes
Victini always winning in battle has no bearing on its lore but its lore is why
celebi is a literal time traveler
Mew is just an ancestor of many species, doesnt mean it is superior in power compared to say Mewtwo.
Victini always win, but they never said what’s the strongest creature it ever faced one on one I guess.
Meloetta ability’s also could simply not work against more powerful beings like most abilities are. For example Dakrai cannot put rampaging Dialga and Palkia to sleep with his power and had to resort to fist fights instead.
I like how most of the canonically strong legendary Pokémon aren’t great in competitive.
Xerneas is a great example of not being an amazing Pokémon in VGC thanks to Dynamax, but strong in canonically.
But to be fair, Xerneas has been absolutely absurd in VGC (and singles) in the past
@@gator-tater9827 Yeah I honestly remember that. Primal Groudon, Xerneas and Venusaur combinations was so terrifying.
@@steampunkvgc6319
Xerneas was up there with the Primals and Mega Rayquaza as doubles team requirements in VGC in the X/Y meta, if I recall. Absolutely no pushover.
@@steampunkvgc6319 Xerneas used to be the bane of everyone's existence in VGC. Not many people use it nowadays because of, well...
*🅱️ e h e m o t h 🅱️ l a d e*
@@TanksINeededDat Sussy Zacian
The fact that creselia is in this list and darkrai is not bugs the hell out of me
No darkrai or deoxys makes me mad fr lol
I guess we dont know what a legendary pokemon is in here? Or a mythical?
@@danyaala9104 who cares man if you’re doing legendaries just include em. Don’t be that guy
14:58 Lol, i think groudon thins the atmosphere, it doesn't actually make the sun brighter.
Well Groudon could be releasing gases such as methane and co2 as well from the magma it creates which do heat up the atmosphere
@@diegoquezada3193 maybe but that wouldn't explain why his weather is "sunny:
I can just imagine Groudon and Kyogre just like casually creating continents and Regigigas just casually putting on some ropes and dragging it across the world before going back to G&K to casually pick up another continent like how you pick up your Ubereats.
Personally, I like Suicune the most since realistically, it seems like a nice place to be in terms of legendary status. It's still quite powerful and is generally friendly/useful to humans and other pokemon, since it can purify all water pollution. Suicune also doesn't have the pressure of being in charge of an entire planet or aspect like Time, Space, Light, Dark, etc. It can afford to relax and just travel the world and hang out with you while still being very impressive to normal beings. All the pokemon in higher categories seem like they'd never have time for friends or mortals, with perhaps Mewtwo being an exception since he was created _by_ humans, thus has no preordained obligations or ancient ties to the world like the other legendaries.
Except the Suicune from the current anime lol
Suicune? Friendly to humans?????? I think you forgot it’s lore. Latios and latias are easily the most friendly to humans. Lugia would be in that convo too.
@@teobaldolendario8880 Sorry, I don't know that one.
@@KDP1004 k, I like Suicune
@@AtomicF0x Suicune doesn’t like you is what I’m saying
Regigigas in the manga has the feat of fighting dialga and palkia at the same time, and scaring away giratina
15:50 zygarde only appears when the concept of life and death are being manipulated
Kind of, it can also appear if the balance of the ecosystem is thrown off
The Tao Trio well designed all three have cool parts in the story and starring on my favorite gen all points in their favor.
Tbh Heatran and Cressilia can be scaled infinitely considering the loise canon
Stuff like how Palkia and dialga somehow made the universe using Heatran acording to some biker
And Cressilia can be argued for azothoth kinda powers.
Arceus - literal god
Palkia - god of space
Dialga - god of time
Garatina - literal devil.
There is no discussion about it. These are the top 4 strongest canonically.
If you do mythicals I think it would be cool to overlay them onto this tier list to give more context to how they stack up to their less special brethren
Mythicals Are Legendaries Dude . 🤦🏽
@@melvondrewhite2674 sure but they weren’t included dude
@@melvondrewhite2674 ??
Damn you for putting the Ultra Necrozma theme for the Universal Threats section. I missed what you said because I was vibin bro. Had to go back and rewatch
that theme do be a bop
If the Tao trio became one again, I wonder how powerful that would be. One time I was reading a pokemon iceberg and at the bottom, a text said that the original dragon (Tao trio combined) is comparable to the creation trio but I'm pretty sure someone just put that there but I could be wrong.
Nah definitely not the on the creation level duo since those guys can bend time and space no matter how powerful they can be they cannot beat it
@@intelsucks7365 you helped me debunk that rumor.
@@intelsucks7365 the only pokemons that can be on the creation trio level is the lake trio together. They are weaker versions of the creation trio and the creation trio is a weaker version of themselves.
the og dragon in my opinion would be the ultimate life form and could easily kill the creation trio arceus ultra necromzma and litteraly anything else
@@ThunderfaaalMEMES i dont think it would be able to kill any member of creation trio or arceus and necrozma. But i do believe it was a lot stronger than most Pokemons
Finally someone is comparing pokemon realistically than based on games
I mean if it was based on the games, then a lvl 1 mon is basically equal to god because of focus sash, endeavor, and quick attack
Loved this video! Definitely think some picks between nice powers and exceptional powers could be debated, but it’s hard to figure out when non combat related powers are “better” than combat related powers. Also agree with the Zekrom and reshiram placement but we’ve never really seen much of what each individual is capable of the more I think about it. Hopefully legends kyurem or the gen 5 remakes fix this
Kinda was thinking Lugia should be higher considering a flap, A SINGLE FLAP, of its wing would result in damaging storms that last 40 days. Imagine if it actually wanted to cause harm.
Well, one rank up is Kyogre who can literally drown the world in days
@@NasTwicenot 40 days
Crazy theory but Lugia is said to cause 40-day hurricanes. Maybe the reason Ho-oh is viewed with such awe and affection and as a rival to Lugia by humanity is because the first time Ho-oh was ever seen by humans was when it stopped one of Lugia's floods to save humanity. Not only that but Ho-oh bestowed luck on anyone that saw it, shone with a beautiful light, and also saved many people and Pokemon from death, the most iconic being the resurrection and empowerment of three canines (dogs or foxes honestly) after they had burned in a fire. Ho-oh stopped the Biblical/Sumerian/Greco-Roman/other world-ending Flood stories from mythology, but with Pokemon instead of Yahweh, and Ho-oh resurrected the Legendary Canines in a kinda similar way to how Yahweh empowered Enoch in the non-canonical Book of Enoch 😳
Honestly a more appropriate name for legendaries would be rare or undiscovered Pokemon. There's a flourishing colony of Zarudes, but they're so insular that they're technically mythical
Soooo, can you do about mythicals next?
My favorite Pokemon is Darkrai and when you started talking about Cresselia I was waiting for Darkrais ranking until I noticed, "oh...right...cresselia was legendary but darkrai is *OF COURSE* a mYtHIcAl" which always infuriated me. Like, how can one side of a *DUO* be legendary and the other one is mythical? I kinda still question them on their logic there.
But enough whining, I'd greatly appreciate a mythical ranking!
Your videos are great bro, don't give up hope just because you're growing slowly, your new format is really entertaining
I used to watch you back in like 2013/14 then didnt see your videos for about 9 years so it's nice to see you're still here
The forces of nature should be way higher. It's literally in their name "Force and Nature" and are the reason why the eco system works as planned. They also create massively powerful storms and can change the environment to almost the level Groudon or Kyogre can.
Very cool video😊
But pls put the spinning pokeball in the background in the center of the blue ring😅
You forgot Bidoof and Magikarp. Those two are so powerful that they could destroy the entire world.
Magikarp can canonically jump over mountains, the amount of Newtons that would require would atleast leave a sizable crater in the landscape
Unfortunately magikarp is limited by the fact when it reaches a certain level of power it evolves into the much weaker gyaradous so it won't bring complete destruction upon the universe
@@suggestagoodname831 use an everstone to create the ultimate being
@@suggestagoodname831 yes that’s true. Gyarados is weak, but given with the fact that if you let it hold a Gyaradosite & have a Key Stone it can mega evolve into Mega Gyarados causing just little destruction on the land.
When splash hits something☄️💥
Yveltal’s Y dex entry says it steals the life force of EVERY living thing, pretty sure that would be the whole world
That seems like vague wording, especially considering you find it in cocoon form in Pokémon Y, and the game isn’t just a flyover of a lifeless wasteland. The whole thing with those legendaries is that they give or take life from their surroundings upon entering their rest, so I think the Dex entry omitted the crucial words “in the vicinity”.
I mean, if it did do that, then how would there be anyone alive to pass down that knowledge? Or anyone alive at all for that matter?
@@Rybread52 Well it didn’t say it killed them.
That's just hyperbole, Yveltal has absorbed life in the past, multiple times in fact, as in whenever its life-cycle is close to ending it absorbs life energy to resurrect in the future.
What it most likely does is absorbing its *surroundings,* whatever plant, Pokémon or human is around.
@@Dexuz I love how it’s implied that the final stage in Yveltal’s life cycle before it reverts to a cocoon is the “%+@& everything in this general area” stage.
For Latios and Latias, you forgot about their ability to turn invisible at will and find hidden islands.
Overall those 2 added abilities are both Niche so they would stay in the same tier, just higher up in the Niche Tier.
I think mewtwo might be a bit too high. Like, he's powerful, but not earth altering
MEWTWO IS GENDERLESS, NOT A HE!
@@Amelia4111well it’s not like it matters normally when it’s a genderless creature people say he because saying they to a fiction character is dumb
So Zapdos's ability to create lightning bolts isn't destructive ? What about Articuno and it's blizzards ? This is all in their Pokedex entries. Also the swords of justice have a relationship with Kyurem in the movies and I think that should count. They imply that they've battled Kyurem before.
Literally every electric type Pokémon can create lightning bolts
@@ThePlanet3ater today on not understanding context and missing the point
Articuno's blizzards are not really Earth-shaking threats cuz most of its dex entries talk about how the blizzards are only depending on the moisture of the air, and that its wings mostly create gentle snow and frost. Zapdos does create savage thunderstorms though, that could be more dangerous
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 the specify lightning bolts, which every electric type is capable of. The person above stated savage thunderstorms which would make more sense for context. Not every electric type Pokémon can make thunderstorms. Regardless Zapdos, moltres, and articuno are still pretty weak for legends lore wise
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 says the guy who doesn't get the point
I just had a thought. Necrozma is kinda like the pokemon universes version of Ungoliant; a giant spider-like creature from Tolkiens universe who hates all light and devoured that of the two trees in Valinor. It is said to have come from outside Arda being maybe as old as the Valar themselves, and powerful enough to even content with Melkor the most powerful of the aforementioned Valar.
Now that is a fearsome being.
Yes and no because necrozma eat light because he is the light himself
A man of lore 👍🏾
Mewtwo also can destroy the world while controling the weather and unlike Kyogre and Groudon... he can do it in so many ways.
Mewtwo is pretty damn OP. No one but Arceus makes worthy a discussion against Mewtwo.
Anyone who is universal+ neg diffs mewtwo fym
"Dont call them dogs, have you ever seen a dog?"
Not even three seconds later: "Entei's bark-"
I would put Xerneas and Yveltal on earth altering tho, wiping out and creating life is no joke. Same as the tao trio, and i think I may put Mewto in special powers
Agreed
My god yes, can people stop pretending that Mewtwo is close to being the ultimate being? Like, it may have been during the early gens but now it's only going on because Game Freaks know people love him and treat him as Charizard 2.0
🤝 🤝 💯
@@milanrincel4301 if gamefreak the creators say that then noone's opinion matter honestly
@@milanrincel4301 Mewtwo hater
Wait so Mewtwo is above Lugia and in the Earth altering tier...because it made a massive psychic STORM in the movie...which Lugia does every single time it FLAPS ITS WINGS.
I feel like Lugia should be in Earth altering just for that. If it decides to fly around for a bit it can cause storms all over the world.
but chooses not to. hence the lower tier
@@dec1sec900 The capacity is still there so the ranking should still be higher in case anything pisses off Lugia one day
Mewtwo is one of the weaker legendaries tbh, bro got equally matched my mew while he was playing with Mewtwo, and has no feats that other legendaries can't replicate, I'd say he's in the exceptional power tier but at the bottom
@@dec1sec900 the creation trio could just say no more universe and bye bye the universe it goes but they choose not to so should they be lower tier as well
@@superfox8519 Mewtwo is the most powerful Pokemom ever
Remember eternatus come from ancient meteor and rayquaza is a meteor destroyer
I’m not that deep into Pokémon but there were two powerful Pokémon that I thought should be on a list like this though I don’t know if they’re legendary. One being darkri since he was able to hold back both dialga and palkia at the same time even if only briefly. The other was Hoopa since he can literally grant wishes and summon legendary Pokémon under his control forcing Archius (sorry for the misspellings) to step in. He’s at least god tier as far as I’m concerned
Hoopa and darkrai are mythicals tho. That's why they aren't in this tier list
there considered mythics wich he does in a diff video
Awesome. Just wished ho-oh to be ranked a bit higher, maybe at the level of kyurem or above regigigas because it's ability to regenerate itself and resurrect other pokemon making them legendary too is nothing to scoff at. As there was a theory that Entei, Raikou and suicune were normal mons but when ho-oh resurrected them, they became powerful legendaries.
that over power but not that destructive
@@itchyteeth7924 yeah not destructive. It's restorative
@@arslanakhter3034 and a bit overpower if you think about it
@@itchyteeth7924 yeah that's why I wanted it to be above in the rank
@@arslanakhter3034 but op regen is not exacly earth shattering power
Fun video! It's always interesting to see how pokemon lore (dex entries/movies) stack up against their actual in game power. I also admit I enjoy their lore powers are more interesting than in game because it has more potential to be awesome!
Same. I love the Pokemon lore, especially the Legendaries.
15:00 I've never thought of Groudon as controlling the actual sun, moreso probably just the Earth's atmosphere's ability to filter it - Kyogre is rain and humidity is heavier/thicker atmosphere, Groudon is no clouds and thinner/drier atmosphere. If it was the actual sun rather than just dangerously clear skies, I'd say bump it a few tiers up...
Missed manaphee, jirachi, celebi, mew, deoxys, Darkrai alongside Arceus. Would love to see an update with these in there too
I completely agree.. ot been hinted that all this time every interpretation of arceus design is just an avatar..
In the movie it is explained with a apparatus of the cosmology that their own separate dimensions dwaft our by so much it like a Peeble.. the entire pokemon multiverse is like a Peeble compared to his own dimension which is infinitely larger.. the tro also have their own as well
y'know, i was NOT expecting to see sephiroth in this video
5 stars. 10/10.
Love these kind of videos!!!
If your taking the (trash) hoopa movie to count rayquaza held off 5 legendaries at the same time while Latios and latias just kept flying around getting ash to safety
What an enjoyable video, hope you make another one about the mythicals!
You could make an argument for the tapus moving up exceptional powers because of their shared Z move. I do understand that they need a trainer to access that power
I would love to see a new form of Arceus, like a humanoid version of him that looks cooler (Like Ceruledge) . I can imagine him having many different forms due to his Lore and the fact he only gave you a fraction of his power.
I'd say yveltal is at least Earth level, technically you can't kill him without dying too and it's very heavily implied that everything on Earth will die if he dies.... if you take into account the fact that he's the embodiment of death some would say he has infinite potential when it comes to power it just hasn't been shown yet
I’d say he is above earth level and below limitless in power. I would say that he effects all Pokémon except those in a different dimension or are higher dimensional beings. So dialga, giratinia, Paikia and Arceus as well of some others I may of forgot about wouldn’t die (don’t care if it’s 11 months old)
If I remember correctly Eternatus is probably much more powerful than Necrozma, as the forms that are seen in Sword and Shield aren’t even its complete form
Necrozma can absorb light and eternatus emits endless energy
If we go by canonicaly necrozma can absorb the light base attacks of eternatus and if eternatus emits so much energy that it turns to light you can assume that necrozma can win
My Favorite Legendary Pokémon is eternatus which is a Poison/Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon & eternatus is The Third Legendary Dragon of Gen 8. This Legendary Pokémon Have Amazing Powers & An Awesome Design, it’s a freaking SKELETON DRAGON Turning into A Thousand Headed Dragon with Thousand Hands Like Heads and CAPABLE OF Warping Time & Space. Just Hoping For The Gen 9 Third Legendary Pokémon To Be a Dragon Type Legendary Pokémon.
Evidence? You can't just say Eternatus has another higher form. As far as I'm concerned the only reason it reached Eternamax form to begin with is because it feeds of the energy of some device or machine and that's it.
About necrozma, Necrozma has way more impressive showings. I mean, Eternatus despite its size and portrayal in the games literally only threatens the Galar region. There's no info on whether or not is capable of wiping the earth let alone a dimension... so clearly Necrozma wins.
infinite stamina...
7:07 Gamefreak actually has refered to them as legendary in the past but that's ok. They also consider mythical as a subset of legendary but that's ok to still a good video.
A lot of people saying Giratina is the god of gravity. I believe a antimatter. Why antimatter? His world is like a reverse of the actual world and you could destroy the entire world from giratinas realm. Antimatter destroys matter on contact as well.
His whole distortion world makes more sense with antimatter rather than gravity is all. I can’t really find a way to put it into words effectively. It’s not like he was making black holes or anything to be locked away.
If he were about gravity “ghost” isn’t the type I would give. I would say psychic, Rock, ground ect would be better.
didn the sowrd of justice had something wit Kyurem about a trial stuff? or was that the ponie water type? kel something
heatrean wasnt he in a movie as a gast pokemon the time travel thing with archeus?
I really like this video, although I do think Xerneas and Yveltal should be in Earth Altering due to them being able to give life/take life from every living thing. Heatran should probably be a little higher as well since it can make Stark Mountain erupt, just not on the same level as Entei.
Pokedex hyperbole
Pokemon and humans still exist
That's easy it would be Dialga because he's the TimeLord of Pokemon,He's basically the Doctor and can control time at will.
Time doesn't exist in Giratina's Dimension btw.
@@niharg2011 No. Time and space are still present at Giratina's dimension, just distorted or unstable. Wrong info bud.
@@imbored8707 But dialga or palkia can't control it? Can they?
@@unnamedchannel3004 tbh not sure. HOWEVER, Dialga manages to trap Giratina via Time Loop on the Distortion World. So, while I do think they can't control everything there, it doesn't really affect them that much either. They can still manipulate time/space. In short, yes they still can.
Great comedy in this video. Subbed
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The platinum series pokemon legendary trio (plus arceus) imo might be hard to beat in terms of lore. Controller of time, space, and anti matter. Plus the creator of all pokemon. Pokemon should've ended when these guys were introduced 🤣
the tao trio combined would alter reality itself and kill the creation trio but it would be a hard fight infact it is slightly implied the orignal dragon came before arceus but was just asleep untill arceus woke it up and sent it to earth it is the failed god
@@ThunderfaaalMEMESin the story it explained that creation trio could reset the universe so there's no living thing in there including all legendary Pokemon, except arceus of course since arceus is the god. And I assume arceus Can reset world to, so creation trio and arceus still in the top for me storywise.
I disagree with the lake trios ranking there kinda underrated in terms of strength not only do they have the power to stop one of the creation trios azelf powers can stop anyone from attacking him due to making them unwilling to fight him uxie can make a Pokémon stupid so that would weakened than than mesperit can take away any anger from any Pokémon to have them stop attacking him also I feel like mewtwo is listed way to high lunala can travel several light years in a couple of seconds so it should be stronger than mewtwo and being man made I don’t see it being above Pokémon like lugia or hoho
I feel the opposite. Any legendry pathetic enough to be taken hostage by Galactic grunts is trash and should be thrown down into the lower tiers.
@@DeathLeprecon you sure about that?
The gods of time, space and antimatter can be captured by a 10 year old
@@starlight0313 Those "10 year olds" are supposed to be special trainers who are capable of becoming champion. Galactic grunts are so pitiful they think stealing honey from trees will help them recreate the universe. That's like saying Mike Tyson can definitely beat Mohammed Ali because you were able to beat up an infant.
As far as I'm concerned, the Lake Trio were better off rotting away in the distortion world so other idiots can't get ahold of the red chain. Because they sure as hell aren't able to protect themselves.
@@DeathLeprecon probably caught them off guard since they were sleeping logically uxie should’ve known that team galactic was after them it was more pis than anything like how arceus doesn’t destroy earth when he was fighting the creation trio in the movie or the fact that the creation trio almost never use there abilities like we almost never see dialga use his control over time or palkia over space you can also argue the lake trio are able to create the red chain which are said to have the power of arceus in it and greatly weakened dialga and palkia in legend arceus to the point that there possible to catch and weakened Pokemon doesn’t do well with power scaling same with the fact that groudon and kygore never use there power of land and sea to fight each other Pokémon never do well with power scaling but lore wise the lake trio should be very op also in azelf Pokédex it was stated to keep the world in balance and can turn people into puppets
@@DeathLeprecon It's known as "plot".
I would prb say eternatus is "Earth Altering" prb it was mostly a threat to Galar, where for example Yveltal would be to the whole world, so it would be earth surface threat, so this would only be Reqion threat. And zacian & zamazenta can 1v2 Eternatus and defeath it, which i'm kinda unsure if they can do with Necrozma. Or i don't think they can. For example, necrozma bodies lunala and solgaleo, in its weakest form. In the ultra necrozma form it's powers is flooding into worlds. It's almost unstoppable. So I personally think that it's on top.
Zygarde in the manga fought ultra light necrozama, and mega mewtwo fought 50% zygarde pretty evenly, base rayquaza did far better against Deoxys in the anime then mewtwo did in the manga, making mega mewtwo and mega rayquaza possibly universal threat as well