How GOOD was Yveltal ACTUALLY? - History of Yveltal in Competitive Pokemon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- Yveltal is today’s Pokemon for our History Video! Tune in with False Swipe Gaming for this history of Yveltal's competitive career! #pokemon #pokemonscarletandviolet #pokemonshowdown
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:07 - XY/Gen 6
7:38 - SM/Gen 7
14:14 - SS/Gen 8
18:54 - Outro
Directed & Narrated by Kellen
Written By Kevin aka BKC / @bkcplayspokemon
Edited By Connor Nguyen aka CDK / cdk_1989
Game Capture Artist: DarkMusician / of_darkmusician
Songs Used (List of ALL Songs used for this series. Some may or may not make it into the video):
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I like that Yveltal leans much more toward a supportive role, compared to Xern's strong offensive. Feels like life and death got a little confused with each other.
Like they said death is kinder than life
Im pretty sure it was meant to be the other way around but they just messed it up that bad
Which is extra funny when they actually share the same stats.
Xern does excellent support sets and yveltal does excellent offensive sets
@@tiecoonracoon3630I don’t think they messed anything up to be honest. Both do great in a variety of different builds.
The most fascinating thing about Yveltal is that it's the only Pokemon to learn Focus Blast by level up, because clearly that's the defining trait that needed to separate Yveltal from the rest
I had no idea that this was a thing! I wonder what the reason behind this is? Pretty cool to see such an unrelated move only given to him.
Because we “miss” our parted loved ones
@@enemystand2981 eh, only every other day.
Is there any other move/pokemon combo like this?
@@enemystand2981so weird that a move called "focus" blast misses all the time😂
The bacon bird being the only thing stopping Calyrex-S from completely ripping through Gen 8 Ubers is impressive
If only bacon bird partnered with fire goldfish, sabertooth weasel and dirt moose
Now it will be on ting lus shoulders
Once again the green slug getting shafted. (Not that i like that him, but i love the recurring gag)
@@majesticgothitelle1802live grassy snail reaction
And when the bacon bird couldn’t fly to Paldea, Calyrex-S got banned from Uber 6 hours after it arrived
Yvetal went trough a redemption arc: he started gen 6 as a villain, secondary to the main hero Xerneas, but he saw in ways, and come gen 8, he's the true hero of Ubers
I guess calyrex is the villain and game freak the true villain
He is the rival everyone likes more than the main character.
Death incarnate isn't evil, it's just a force of nature. Its role simply altered to fit the needs of its surroundings.
Ubers: “Who is stronger, you or Calyrex Shadow?”
Vyveltal: “Well, if he has the Terastilization mechanic, I would need a few reads”
Ubers: “Would you lose?”
Yveltal: “Nah, I’d win”
Yvetal to the Tera Fairy Calyrex it smacked with oblivion Wing
"Stand down, you are weak."
Are you the most used one because you are dark type? Or are you dark type because you are the most used one?
@@JudgementBirb42 With this sacred U-turn i summon...
I just can't escape Lobotomy Kaisen no matter where I go
tier expansion.
Remember when this series started and gen 6/7 Pokemon were still too new? Pepperidge Farm remembers. How far this channel has come
Shut up, that means I'm old
This just means Pokemon games come out too fast.
@@maxspecs Tbf Pokémon gens have always come out around every 3 years
@@maxspecsno it doesn’t.X and y are 10 years old
@@Brandonutss That was 3 generations ago! In real life a generation’s every 10-12 years!
Gen 8 Yveltal was such a beast, it was the most used Pokemon in the entire Gen and often determined what else was viable
Me and my homies hate Calyrex Shadow
The big three of gen 8 ubers (excluding calyrex) Yvelta, Necrozma-DM and Eternatus
@@AuroraBoost Calyrex shadow actually fell off S rank in gen 8 Uber viability rankings and no longer part of the big 4, it is now S- rank, ranked behind kyogre
Wait how come?@@enderdestroyer-mr7nh
@@lmChills Didn’t play gen 8 ubers much, but from reading the viability thread, Kyogre is a more consistent and bigger offensive threat, kyogre has a easier time bypassing its checks, as every defensive answer(including eternatus) gets muscled past with specs or calm mind(whereas calyrex-s has a hard time trying to bypass yveltal), and have more defensive utility.
Gen 8 Ubers having a RBY OU hierarchy of 3 mons having near 100% usage in Yveltal, Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, is surprisingly novel to see in a modern generation. These three possesses unmatched utility that any team will be foolish enough to pass up on.
I used all 3 in my team it was very good
Funny how despite being the embodiment of death, it saved generation 8 from death by being the best counter to Calyrex Shadow
The gen dies when Death itself allows it. No pony is gonna take its job
"Prick-ass horse stole my job? Nah, nah I ain't a goddamn Darkrai you get over here and sit down."
I wouldn't say saved, more like under new management.
Bird of destruction vs a horseman(deer?) of death
Really does feel fitting as a legendary tale in basically the Pokemon equivalent of the British Isles.
"..characterized by such calamitous combinations cascading collaboratively upon the competitor"
BKC never fails to deliver.
I have laughed so much it was great
Fire alliteration
Dealing with Shadow Rider Calyrex this generation will be harder especially without the beloved bacon bird
It’s been banned to AG
@@Light_2461they know, even in AG it's crazy
Yes. It literally got banned from Ubers.
@@mandalorianhunter1 its got draining kiss now and can tera into any type giving it tera coverage and theres a weird quirk this gen where it can get moves from its ice counterpart
Terapagos is answer
I like that Yveltal and Xerneas don't have to compete with each other for how different their playstyles are. Yveltal stuggles against its counterpart, but thrives against so many other legends.
The perfect balance of life and death
I remember when X and Y were revealed and I first thought Yveltal may have been a bat. Bats are my favorite animals so noticing the talons and beak just made me say "Aw, oh well. Some day."
Then Pokemon Moon happened :)
Hey Gen 6 had noivern! So you did get a bat =D
@@syrendsong And before Noivern, we had the Zubat line and Woobat line, though both of them are kinda mid
@@g.mxanthis7575 crobat is awesome, love using that guy at least!
Gen 6 really had some of sickest designs and Yveltal is no exception
I'm a Gen 3 sucker, but even I prefer Xerneas and Yveltal over Groudon and Kyogre (I still think Rayquaza is better than Zygarde, though)
@@guillemtb1671zygarde completes mech style is cool af but that was gen 7 anyway iirc
@@guillemtb1671 Agreed
Rayquaza is cool
Sorry, but no other trio holds the candle to Groudon and Kyogre. Yveltal Xerneas and Zygarde are top tier for sure, probably in top 3 trios at least, but the weather trio is in its own tier
@@grydon6422 To each their own. I definitely love Xerneas design way more than Kyogre. Groudon and Yveltal are about the same. Rayquaza is better than Zygarde. Lore-wise i prefer Gen 3 myself.
Just when you thought Xerneas was the better Pokémon, you remember this mon is the Swiss Army knife of the Ubers tier.
Xerneas is still absolutely better in VGC outside of Gen 8.
@@skeetermania3202 So Xerneas was better in 2 gens of VGC and 1 of singles, while Yveltal was better in 2 gens of singles and 1 of VGC. I'd say pretty even
If any Pokemon is considered the swiss army knife of ubers it has to be Arceus. The pokemon with the stats, movepool, and typing to do whatever it wants.
Why bother with which is better . Both were elite mons in every gen. there is pretty good chance u r using both in successful ubers team. @@thedon6079
Yveltal is still one of the best designed legendaries imo. The body representing a Y with the giant claws just looks so good.
They made Y look cool.
The Vulture that picked all of Calyrex's Crops. ☠️
I remember when XY first came out and I had to choose between Mega Charizard X or Yveltal. Needless to say, the edgy legendary bird won and I've loved it since.
Zard Y > Zard X
@@nicolasturetta7959Agreed! I was the weird teenager who liked Charizard Y over X. X felt so overrated.
@@lexsombersunrise if there was only 1 mega Y feels like it would be the mega they would go with X was probably just fan service tbh
I'll always prefer X over Y.
It's probably my favorite design in the franchise.
@@lexsombersunriseI’ve always liked Zard Y more than X because it’s design just felt more natural and subtle. Where as X looked like it was trying way too hard to be cool.
The story of Yvetal and his boyfriend Incineroar is one of the most inspiring stories here
Sword and Shield really was the Peak of Yveltal’s power imo. In both VGC and Smogon. Yveltal in VGC was amazing at using Dynamax, with Max Airstream and its great bulk, and in Smogon, it would easily tank Calyrex-Shadow’s moves, as well as being able to fight Eternatus and Necrozma-Dusk Mane
Ironic the Pokemon of death is the one who saved the Ubers metagame from an absolute bloodbath. That's character development although despite the name Yveltal was never really 'evil' in the first place
Yveltal. Codename: BACON BIRD
Especially the shiny
Sky Bacon
Bacon
To me it looks like a nice good steak
@@bruhcanyoustop4658Shiny Yveltal looks like a steak
I like how people can say this is a awesome video when it`s been out for 1 minute and can`t have watched the whole thing yet xD
Mfs watching at 500x speed
it's fun to be early on a FSG video and see the like counter skyrocket every 5-10 seconds or so
It's expected to be an excellent video, that's why
Nice to see that even though Xerneas may have been more powerful (especially in Gen 6), Yveltal still has just as much, if not, more promise in the later gens - from being the best Incineroar partner to becoming the best Caleryx Shadow check
i love how multidimensional Yveltal is. its really cool, going physical or special, fast or bulky, specs, orb, scarf, boots, assault vest etc
I have a feeling that Zygarde is next to complete the trio.
Also, Big Root boosts Oblivion Wing's absorption effect. That's objectively funnier.
Though, Xerneas got the Geomancy and Fairy typing is incredible in it's own regard, I always thought of Yveltal to be superior of the two. See, their stat spread is extremely cracked even by Ubers standards and Yveltal was better poised to take advantage of these stats.
They have mixed attacking stats and Yveltal had some of the best damn moves to throw out with them, Dark Aura boosted Dark Pulse, Knock Off, Priority in Sucker, Snarl for Substitute, Foul Play for Defensive sets, Oblivion Wing, and Uturn.
Xerneas doesn't have the movepool to go physical, it really only ever runs Moonblast so even it's Fairy Aura is kinda limited and it doesn't have secondary stab.
In regards to their defensive stats, Yveltal with Roost, Knock Off, Foul Play, Snarl, Sucker, Uturn Defog, Toxic etc. was just much more versatile than Xern stuck using RestTalk, Moonblast, Toxic/Defog/Aromatherapy.
In short Yveltal, always was gifted with much better movepool that made it was much more versatile than Xern while Xern was more one dimensional.
So Xern viability was always dependent on how powerful was that one thing it did in the current metagame while Yveltal could adapt itself to do what fit best in the metagame.
Fun fact, Yveltal & Xerneas are the first legendary mascots since Ruby & Sapphire that aren't dragon type. This continued with Sun & Moon, & Sword & Shield, having eventually being broken with Scarlet & Violet.
@@雪者 Well tbf that's only two gens of Dragon type Box Art Legends - Gen 4 and 5. Which is not that much tbh.
@@togakhan1274 True, true. But it somehow is.. peculiar. Well, at least to me anyway
@@雪者ruby and yellow? What are you smoking?
@@enoyna1001 oops, typing error, my bad
Seriously cant wait for zygarde. My favorite megazord of the series.
I heard his complete form destroyed ou before being banned to Ubers.
@@joshualighttime604terapagos moment
Bro ur everywhere
Yveltal was my first TCG legendary ever. It's always gonna have a place in my heart. The Gen 6 legendaries have such good inspiration lore man.
Yveltal has always been my favorite of the Aura Trio. It's got high stats, a great signature move, diverse move set, & a badass design. Plus, it's a superb Dark type in a generation where they got rocked!
Yveltal also had a very short-lived niche in ORAS while Mega Ray was around, able to *always* go at least 1 for 1 with it, so long as you were able to keep rocks off of the field. Mega Ray's attack stat was so hilariously high that Banded sets got cleanly ohko'd by Foul Play, as well as any DD set that got to +1, and with a rocky helmet, even neutral foul plays were able to ko it with the chip.
I like when you dive a bit into the lore behind the design and inspiration for a pokemon like you did at the start of the video!
I remember laughing when I saw the design of Xerneas and Yveltal resembled the X and Y letters. They still manage to look epic asf, I love them.
So many of your writers’ favorite words are ones that the narrator probably hasn’t heard out loud before. It’s always funny, but there were like four common mispronunciations in one paragraph today. At this point it’s part of the channel’s charm! 😂❤
Ironic how the representation of death became a symbol of hope for the Uber tier to stop Calyrex
Gotta love Evil Tall
Wow, I never knew Bacon Bird was THAT good in competitive! I was totally expecting it to play second fiddle to Xerneas. But I’m so happy my favorite box art legend is a god in the versus scene!! I’m surprised it doesn’t get a “GREAT” in the title of the video!
Xerneas majorly uses only one set, with Yveltal can use different & unpredictable sets... This made Xerneas the best in X & Y VGC... But the factor that, Yveltal overpowered Xerneas as soon as Gen 7 came is really insane... And it's so shocking to hear that, while Xerneas was one of the weakest Pokemon in Gen 8 Ubers, Yveltal have 90% usage
Wtf do u mean by weakest uber? Xern was still one of the best Uber in gen 8. A top 8 mon.
"It would often out-heal the recoil of the Life Orb that boosted it."
Yeah, I guess that checks out.
I've been looking forward to this video for sometime, and then you release it on my birthday?! FSG rocks! Thanks to Kellen and Co. for an awesome b-day present🎉
I always appreciate the alliteration in this series! It’s such a fun addition to the already great format 😁
And now we know why he was not in Scarlet and Violet. He will be back in his own region in 2025.
He may get a new for or something like primal Palkia and I’m hyped up
Gen VI is the only one that can legitimately challenge Gen III in the best cover legendaries competition (Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza vs. Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde).
Good video as usual!
I wish dark and fairy aura had some kind of visual effect, similar to the terrains I guess c: Couldve looked so cool~
Same thoughts, like how Xerneas and Yveltal's battle stages during their X and Y Legendary battled looked like, could have already worked with those.
E V I L TA L
I find it funny how they are the opposite of what they stand for lore wise in Ubers, xerneas being one of the most terrifying threats bringing death with it, and then yveltal holding gen 8 Ubers together with it being able to stop calyrex shadow
Zygarde stabs being literally useless against both Baconbird and BeegDeer is hilarious to me. Poor non-complete snek 🐍
Thousand Arrows hits flying type, though.
Finally you have released a new video!
Xerneas really should have been fairy grass or something weak to flying so it was equal with yevltal in type match ups
Yeah, it learns Horn Leech anyway
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS WOOOOOOOO
my god, False Swipe, you did NOT have to go that existential in that intro
Looking at all those placements, he really wasn’t kidding about Incenaroar and Yveltal being best buds.
VGC in a nutshell: in a couple made by incineroar and yveltal, who'd you think the damage dealer and the support are? Yeah exactly, incineroar is the damage dealer and yveltal is the support
Excellent video on Yveltal
Xerneas was murdering the competitive scene and Yveltal was there going “you’re doing great”
shoutout to this pronunciation, i switched to it when i first realized the name was related to "evil" and it sounds so much cleaner than the more common pronunciation.
also, i think it's really funny that caly-s's early gen9 suspect was one of the most unanimous suspects of all time, just because yveltal wasn't there to wall it anymore
I just want to point out the irony when you stated in the outro that Yveltal single-handedly saved the metagame from death by Calyrex Shadow's relentless bombardment of Astral Barrage.
Can I just say, what an incredible legendary pokemon. In both design and competitive!
I have been waiting for this for a while
The ear to ear smile I had plastered on my face the entire time I was watching this was akin to that of a child on Christmas morning. Thank you, FSG.
Would like to see a lycanroc video one day, but lots of work cuz it would be like 3 in one - love the channel btw!
The Yveltal/Xerneas dynamic just reminded me how much I liked Ditto in Ubers
The "Im you but better" scarf Ditto into Xerneas was always a funny matchup
Both Yveltal and Xerneas inspired me to create a fairy team and darkness team based purely upon how to take full advantage of their abilities.
I found my darkness team as my preferred one, but still, Fairy is a good type.
yveltal was so good in gen8 that double yveltal was a common thing in anything goes (assuming you weren't doing sword dog), since when it's allowed to dynamax it becomes among the best, easiest to use sweepers in the game, you just click max airstream and then you probably win
My favorite legendary mon in design, name and lore. Such a cool mon and how important it is to the metagame is icing on the cake!
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
Peaked top 50 in Gen8 Ubers with 308 speed Yvel that I could bring out against opposing Yvel, so that I could know for sure if my 309 speed Xern could safely get the Geomancy off or not. Worked well because Yvel was one of the big 3 of Gen8 Ubers and was on almost all high-level teams
I’ve been waiting for this video
Yvetal is so 🐐 and am so glad you did a video on it
Pretty incredible how in singles Yveltal has very definitely been better than Xerneas. You just wouldn't think it on first glance
Just to add to your list, in 2022, I had won the SLC regionals with yveltal in the seniors division
Yveltal is one of my favorite newer Pokémon designs. Awesome to see how great it is
Good to see that my favorite Pokémon had such a crazy impact on the competitive scene
I was always fascinated by Yveltal. I love its design and its power, despite my never competing!
Yveltal's Oblivion Wing is the most efficient HP draining move, with 75% of the damage dealt converted to health. That amount could be bumped up to 97.5% with the Big Root item, allowing Yveltal to convert nearly all the damage dealt into recoverable health.
I remember seeing the trailer for XY.
Once Yveltal appeared on the screen I knew what version I would end up getting.
And then Mega Charizard X got revealed and those plans changed.
Yveltal held Gen 8 Ubers together so strongly that when Gen 9 rolled around and Calyrex-S appeared without the corresponding Yveltal, Calyrex-S INSTANTLY got banned from Ubers.
Awesome video. Can't wait for the zygarde video
And so, after X and Y we all are finally going to get "HOW GOOD WAS ZYGARDE ACTUALLY"💚🐉
9:38 Ayo, 🅱️ro just dropped the sickest Competitive Pokémon Tongue Twister like it was nothing.
Please do a theorem going over priority moves and their impact in battle. (Scizor theorem)
I bought Pokemon Y after a long hiatus and was delightfully surprised to receive this beast as the signature pokemon. I love Yveltal!
Yveltal was always my favorite legendary and its so nice to see him thrive in the competitive setting, I really thought the Xerneas matchup made him less strong but what a surprise that he actually stands a fight with it
These two legendaries really added to why I loved X and Y so much, and I honestly really miss Yveltal because it was one of my favorite legendaries of all time. As a casual Pokemon player, the thing I always like in my Pokemon is when they have a strong STAB attack that restores their health and Yveltal was the first legendary that I can remember who's signature move had this effect. It's one of the reasons why Ceruledge has become one of my favorite Pokemon (along with that awesome design) and I really want to see more Pokemon like this in the future or at the very least BRING YVELTAL BACK PLEEEEASE!!!
Good sir I am straight up on my knees BEGGING you to review incineroar, you’ve done every alolan starter BUT him and he’s one of my favorites, come on man I don't care if he was good or bad in competitive I just want to see my boy incineroar get his own video
Yveltal was always my personal favorite of the Gen 6 legendary trio. His design is cool, his lore is badass and he’s a monster in battle.
Hey False, if you’re up to doing a longer video, you should rank all the Pokémon who we banned to UBERS, I think it would make a great video
Yveltal is such a funny pokemon. Gets released alongside a fairy uber who should crush it every time, and still becomes a top tier uber pokemon, even able to scare said fairy because of how weak it is to knock off. Then a new gen comes out witha bunch of insane monsters get released to the tier, and who comes to the rescue? The black bird. Tanking stuff like stone edge from P.Groundon or dd boosted aeralite double edge from mega salamance is insane. And when you think it couldnt get any better, the next gen drops out with even more insane threats and by the end of it Yveltal has 90% usage. NINETY PERCENT. The evil bird of death turned out to be the one keeping us alive from Ubers insane monsters xD
Y was when I got back to Pokémon after a long time away, so this video strikes several nostalgia buttons for me
Yveltal was the carry of my first and favorite VGC team during the 1 restricted season of Sw/Sh. Ran weakness policy with ice shard alolan ninetales so after a turn of setup, the two of them could just wipe the opponent while sitting pretty behind aurora veil
One of the big 3 has arrived
that ghost horse cant escape the power of two dark/flying birds, thanks Yvetal and Mandibuzz for making life a bit more bearable(ironically)
Yesss my favourite legendary. Used it so much in gen 6 and 7 Ubers as an anti lead.
Yveltal Shiny looks so cool is like a skeleton imposing bird
Until someone came up and said
*"Bacon Bird 🥓 🦅"*
Now i can't unsee that
It would be really nice to see Torkoal next!
Yvetals character is truly awesome!
Can’t wait to see on how Zygarde along with its complete forme did over its competitive years and VGC years after Yveital.
While I acknowledge that Xerneas was definitely the bigger offensive threat, I just love Yveltal so much more lol. Pokemon Y was the game that got me back into the series after like 7 years and even though it admittedly was not the best pokemon game, the XYZ legendary trio is probably still my fav. I was actually having a lot of fun with a bulky assault vest Yveltal set in swsh and it's really too bad that the trio was left out of scarlet and violet since they could've been insane with tera.
Looking at this Pokémon again I think my fav dark type design may change