dont try using this shit tier deck, you will always lose unless your opponent gets a terrible draw. literally any deck should have access to at least 1 counterspell by the time this deck can do anything, which would spell an instant loss for you. or you know, just exile whatever creature you bring in.
I think if you build the deck to have 4 win con cards that would mean you do not have to worry about if you exile the win con off the top of the library. This requires research to pick what I would like to call "The Elite Four"
Probably should run the shuffle titans and blightsteel because if someone swords or paths blightsteel you just have to scoop bc you won't be able to do anything and tibalt's trickery will be in your graveyard. The shuffle titans are expensive af but they have cast triggers and if they die shuffle tibalt's back into your library.
@@TheMorbidHobo Sure but all the Epic spells dont win you the game immediately, You do the trickery shinanegans, cast approach, and wait. Im imagining a deck full of manlands to stall as needed. Its definitely not an ideal one option but just thinking of the theme
I feel like you could run Cultivator Colossus instead of blightsteel, as a more budget friendly alternative. Additionally, you can then pump Cultivator as much as you want.
@@beware3586 True, but Cultivator is significantly more budget, and you can win with Maze's end. I'd imagine cultivator is only going to go down in price at this point, too.
I've brewed 26, mostly lands decks and I've made Imoti work, but not in a way I'd like. For the commander draft list, I used Tasha's Hideous Laughter as the Cascade target since it effectively mills the land decks out.
I like this video because a lot of what I struggle with is EDH basics- there's a lot of cards that are just requirements for basic commander decks, like sol ring, but there's not exactly a comprehensive list of staples.
Love these original and unique decks! Just finished a Old Stickyfingers deck myself, ~85 lands, 12 reanimate spells, and cultivator colossus! Keep’m coming!
There's a budget friendly cycle of sac lands that might help cast the commander on turn 4, check out Ancient Spring, Sulfur Vent, Tinder Farm, etc. There's 5 allied battery lands I want to try to make work as well, but they seem less consistent. (Fungal Reaches, Calciform Pools, etc). This takes the number of cards that let you cast the First Sliver on Turn 4 from 1 to 11, which is actually decent odds
First off, finding a way to make epic spells work…amazing. Secondly, I believe I may try this out with Cultivator Colossus and Gates for a Maze’s End victory.
wouldn't you lose the game from drawing out your deck? Cultivator Colossus's etb is one trigger and you die from drawing from an empty library before you can activated Maze's End.
I was thinking something similar with valakut and field of the dead as well. You could go far enough to kill any fliers on board and have a shitload of zombies to block until you get the ME victory
From what I got from this video, there’s a way I built it that has alternative wincon instead of relying on the blightsteel. Using Endless swarm overwhelms the board. You also include the animate lands like Lavaclaw Reaches. And for an additional chance, add maze’s end for another possibility. And If you can in your budget, dark Depths and Westvale Abbey are great choices.
I watched this video then laughed so hard because I had all the cards but a couple guild gates. I ordered the remaining ones immediately. I will be playing this deck tomorrow!
Just thought of a really broken strategy using this idea. If the 3rd card is Jace, wielder of mysteries (Planeswalker), then you can play him and when you play the commander (because it was countered by Tibalt) all that's left in your library is lands. You completely empty your library into exile, use Jace's +1 ability to draw a card, but because you have no cards in your library and can't draw, you win the game through Jace's passive effect. Reminds me of using Inverter of truth + Elixer of Immortality to cause the same effect.
Before anyone tries to build this: it doesn't work. You can't use a Planeswalker ability (or anything really) while you're resolving the cascade effect. At the end of the cascade effect, all the lands will be back in your library.
So it doesn’t matter if trickery mills colossus, you will still get the colossus. Colossus has a replacement to shuffle itself back in. So it will be shuffled into the library instead of being milled. This is different than the shuffle Titans which have triggered abilities to shuffle the graveyard back in.
Another Excellent off-the-wall Deck! Will need to try and build this deck sometime soon. Additionally, my version of of your Sliver Overlord/Zirda, the Dawnwaker has become quite the talk at the LGS where I play. Thanks again
With the way the stack works, wouldn't the exiled cards from first sliver still be exiled? So you would have to hope to not exile it with the first sliver?
I was thinking this exactly as I was watching. I looked up the Cascade rulings to be sure too, but it wasn't completely clear. That would be my understanding though.
If you build this to use endless swarm, might i also recommend reliquary tower? Playing lands after you have executed this combo doesn't really do much for you, so why not use a land to get rid of your max hand size, and make more and more snakes every turn by simply not playing cards! Means you only have to play utility lands if you want to. Also, I'm totally building this deck to use all 3 of those wincons. That fixes the issue of milling your wincon with trickery, and fixes the problem of it playing the same every time. Sometimes you are snake swarm, sometimes you are a thief, and other times you slap your blightsteel on the table like a baller and dare your opponents to remove it
These ideas are always cool (vids inspired me to build Esika to grab a secret commander) but all the high landcount decks never seem to be able to do anything before turn 5.
I know this video is 6 months old, but I had a very cheap solution. Instead of Bightsteel, you could run Spawnsire of Ulamog. It's a $5.00 card and has an effect to pay 20 mana and cast any number of Eldrazi cards from outside the game without paying their mana costs. So I figure, survive long enough to get to 25 mana in one turn, then cascade, tibalt, and a ton of eldrazi.
I love these Off the wall deck techs one of my favourite decks is a scrounged up version of a previous deck(mostly cards i can get my hands on budget or expensive) and is still being changed as sets go by I salute you sir
I was going to make the same comment. They're still budget lands that cost around $0.20 each. The whole cycle is Ancient Spring, Geothermal Crevice, Irrigation Ditch, Sulfur Vent and Tinder Farm.
I think it would be the most fun (of course, my opinion) to put the 5 spells with epic in here instead of the blightsteel colossus. Just get your commander out as fast as possible and then spin the wheel of fate to see which epic spell youre gonna get to use! (Maybe also throw in a bad/joke card with mana cost 5 or greater if you want to add some fun risk to this chaotic wheel)
I actually built an imoti deck for a buddy of mine that just goes. Part of it involves using kodama to keep the train going. Win con is either thassa or lab man.
Great deck, played your 99 land deck, extremely fun and going to try this as well. With the tri-lands, if you can put the missing one in which card would you take out?
Love it Mitch! I happen to have all these but the first sliver, so I’m gonna show up to the night FNM with the boys and see what they think 😂
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You can add the D&D lands that become into a Creature. And add a couple of Eldrazi too, like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger or Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. Also a Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon and a Nexus of Fate. And you are done.
Does blightsteel's shuffle into library replacement effect trigger during the tibalts trickery? It says instead... I know you can't do anything while something is resolving but do replacement effects still apply? If so you could never mill the blightsteel away and it would be 100%...
The replacement effect changes what happens. So instead of colossus being put into the graveyard by trickery, it will be revealed and reshuffled back into the deck. Then trickery will flip through the deck looking for a card not named first sliver. All of this will be during the resolution of trickery so your opponents won’t be able to respond to colossus being revealed.
This is a super fun deck idea and I love the novelty and freshness. But, this feels better as a possible play in something like the Illuna build so you still have some protection and places to go. This feels like a prayer still. I think this early in the game someone will have a way to exile the Blightsteel or counter Trickery before you can win. At least in the Illuna build you've got two permanents still since The First Sliver is countered and you can have protection and other strategies to play into potentially. You also don't need Tibalt's Trickery in hand and Blightsteel or whichever other card in the deck. The 99 would be fairly different although you still want ways to put Blightsteel or whatever the permanent is back in the deck just like in the Omniscience build, but you could do a lot of other stuff too. You could also shirk the instants and sorceries that make creatures to mutate onto for manlands so that you can build the 99, or 98 I should say, with more synergy and strength for your plan. Love these ideas though Mitch, don't let them stop because they keep influencing my own style in ways that I love. I do like the idea of doing this into one of the cards with Epic and will give that a go. Seems like the best home for that ability anyways.
I really like the idea of Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty as a commander. What is your opinion on cascading into Ayula's Influence? You could have Keruga, the Macrosage as your companion to draw more lands. My math has 10 2/2 on turn 6 with that set up.
If you're going the blightsteel route, a few nice lands would include discard abilities (since blightsteel gets shuffled into your library after it goes to grave). This would help mitigate the "oh crap" scenario where you draw the blightsteel. Some possibilities include Desolate Lighthouse, Rix Maadi Dungeon Palace, and the ever-great Geier-Reach Sanitarium (All budget). If you're really desperate, Immersturm Skullcairn also does the job: You sacrifice it, deal 3 damage to yourself and discard blightsteel. First time Immersturm has been used like that :P
@@davidweller3948 True, but it's nice to be able to expedite that process with nice lands like desolate lighthouse. There's no reason not to, you have a 97 land deck.
If you did mill Blightsteel, does his ability go on the stack before Tibalts trickery resolve? So he would go back in the deck, or does the spell keep priority?
After you cast tibbles trickery does it end up in the graveyard or does it go back in the deck to be used again because it was cash with Cascade and technically exiled and all exile gets put in the bottom of the deck or just because it was cast it counts as a regular casting and goes to the graveyard
Wondering if there is a way to make this work with approach of the second sun for easier wins. Also the epic spells seem alot more fun then blightsteel colosus
I really want to build this deck with Eternal Dominion, my playgroup runs some combo heavy decks and I’d love to be able to steal their combos out of their own deck, or have a response for anything on the board by stealing it from someone else, etc. Just seems really interesting to run
I think an alternative commander would best be Maelstrom Wanderer because it gives you access to that red. it won't allow you to have that mana fixing from Jegantha, but does that really matter when you have 2 less colors that you need to fix? Also Maelstrom is under the cost of Eternal Dominion, and Endless Swarm so using blightsteel isnt your only option. Unfortunately since you counter your commander with Tibalt's trickery you won't be able to have your blightsteel have haste on the turn you cast it. the only drawback with this is it takes longer to cast Maelstrom since it costs 8 instead of 5.
While I think this deck is interesting, I have doubts that it will ever win. So much of the removal in commander can actually hit blightsteel (Path, Swords, Chaos Warp, Resculpt, Ravenform, Reality Shift, Return to Dust, Crush Contraband, Dispatch, Unexpectedly Absent, Winds of Abandon, Despark, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, every one of the transform enchantment cards, Cyclonic Rift, Toxic Deluge, Merciless Eviction, not to mention a single counterspell on the trickery), so it isn't even that likely to stay around. Plus even if it does, it will almost always take 2 swings with it to take someone out and it doesn't have haste, so that is minimum 6 turns after you play your commander on turn 4 or 5, which would mean you are almost never winning the game before turn 10 or 11. Plus you have no way to actually defend yourself, and if you play a blightsteel colossus on turn 4 or 5 you will be target #1. Then on top of that I can't imagine this deck would be that fun to actually play. Its probably pretty hilarious the first 2 or 3 times you turbo out a blightsteel but then what? The deck is completely linear. I appreciate the video, and I do really think it is a really interesting and worth while idea to think about, but I don't know if anyone should ever actually buy this deck, if you already have the cards its probably pretty funny to toss it together and see the looks on other peoples faces for a week or two, but I don't think many people would be happy spending 80$ on this deck unless they have other homes for these cards. Edit: I think the real way to build this deck if you want to win with it is to just use cultivator colossus, Glacial Chasm and Mazes End, plus you could always include petrified field to return mazes end to your hand if someone strip mines it, and deserted temple to untap it and use it immediately if you have to do that. Field of the dead also works quite well in this build to make a bunch of chump blockers but that card is pretty pricey and probably unnecessary for a budget build (and only really necessary if someone strip mines your chasm and they have enough power on the board to kill you). Deck is still super linear and probably really boring to play but it will definitely win some games (Still gets blown out by countermagic).
used this idea to make a malestorm wander deck like this but using creative tecknique instead of the trickery (also means you can swing blightsteel the turn it comes out)
One issue with jegantha is turn 3 u put in your hand then...someone shuffles hands into libraries If you draw any of the other cards OR don't draw jegantha your combo is at stake...
Maelstrom wanderer is a bit pricier on the mana side, but you could put 2 big creatures in the deck and run it like that. Something like Colosus and Blightsteel would work well
Another possibility instead of Blightsteel is Borborygmos Enraged as you have all lands. Each of his attack will fill your hand with lands and you can both control the board or peoples faces.
Hah! I saw this last night; didn't read the comments until just now, and I see Thorinox's. The biggest baddie I have lying around is also Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and I made this with him (I also had a First Sliver and a bunch of dual lands). He's great since if you mill him w/Trickery then your graveyard gets shuffled into your library. You just have to NOT draw him the first 4/5 draws--or 6/7 draws if you end up drawing Trickery, since you'll have to cast it from your hand. Additionally, since you're casting Emrakul, you get to take another turn and attack. With Annihilator 6, on turn 5 (enemy's turn 4 if you were on the play). So spicy! Oh yeah, and Emrakul has protection from colored spells, so...
I made sucha deck with 95 lands, the payoff is (Apex devastator cascading into)(Maelstrom Wanderer cascading into)Cultivator Colossus - play (almost) all of the 90 lands and win right away with hasty zombies and ~90/90 Cultivator colossus, or hide behind Glacial Chasm and win next turn with Maze's End ... If not countered, the deck wins almost deterministicly turn 4-5 (turn 3 with best ramp) ... Edit: also you only mentioned the krosan verge as a 1 way to ramp and there are 12(?) lands that ramp us into First sliver, the 5 sac lands from Invasion and 5 storage lands From Time spiral (all 10 are budget friendly !) and Gemstone Cavern
How do you always make these decks seem so fun? Since I already have a First Sliver I think I'm gonna make the Eternal Dominion one since I like playing with other peoples cards, and since Endless Swarm is so cheap, I'll buy that one to switch Eternal Dominion out for webcam play.
When you mentioned that imoti couldn't work I instantly had to think of tinker. So I started doing a bunch of math: If I'm not mistaken, there are six artifact lands in color to date, not counting any that make artifact tokens or anything. giving you roughly 36% chance to draw atleast one in your opening opening hand. After mulagaining four times that that number goes up to roughly 90%. In my playgroup the first muligain is free, so that means 90% of the time I'd have atleast 4 cards left in my opening hand to fix colors, and make sure the last land enters untapped. And muligaining until I'd have one card left comes down to roughly 97% And these numbers could be improved if lands that make artifact tokens are included as well. It was at this at this point i remembered tinker was banned.....*facepalm* On an unrelated note, Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but if I'm not wrong you could build a similar deck to the one in de video with Plargg at the helm. Edit, reread tibalt's trickery, and Plargg wouldn't work....*facepalm* It's almost 3 AM where I live, I should really be getting some sleep
You could also use trickery to cast reshape the earth, grabbing 9 gates and mazes end. Much cheaper than blightsteel You can also do this with Codie, Trickery, and a bunch of dragons approaches
I think I prefer Eternal Domination more in these choices lol It'll be the first Edh deck that 98% of all cards you play from other people deck LOL Which really really unique. I really want to try this deck XD
This video is why I need to build some crackhead polymorph/cascade/show and tell deck. It would be so dumb, but I could cast big stuff for basically free
Maelstrom Wanderer could also work, at least with Blightsteel Colossus + Eternal Dominion. You still have access to red so Tibalt's Trickery is still a thing, you're gonna cascade twice from Maelstrom (not sure how relevant that actually is). The main drawback is that it costs 8 mana in total instead of 5, and you might be better off doing a Mana Severance + Jace Wielder of Mysteries win with this commander anyway.
Buddy had a similar idea for a deck with Windgrace at the helm, 96 lands, and using Violent Outburst as the Cascade card, Tibalt's Trickery as the... Tibalt's Trickery... and having a big dumb idiot to attack your opponents with. (I nominated Emrakul)
Alternatively you can do this with Maelsteom Wanderer as the commander. It’ll cost 8cmc instead of 5cmc but is less complex of a mana base being only 3 colors instead of 5, and because it cascades twice you can get away with putting in 1 other nonland card that’s less than 8 mana… like a ramp spell or something
So Krosan Verge is just a better version of Myriad Landscape for Multi-colored EDH decks that is cheap, almost uncounterable, ramps you, AND fixes your mana? Why don’t we have an entire cycle of these lands already?
I find it hilarious that decks like the Child of Alara deck and this one both insta-scoop to Tasha's hideous laughter
Do you find it hilarious because you’ve had Tasha’s Hideous Laughter cast on you irl?
Well, it's not really scooping in the typical sense as they just... ya know... lose
What’s perfect about this... is that I have a copy of The First Sliver already so it wont cost me much at all to get the rest of this deck.
Same 😂😂
And I already pulled a blightsteel colossus 🥲
I could make this too but my playgroup would shit all over this deck.
dont try using this shit tier deck, you will always lose unless your opponent gets a terrible draw. literally any deck should have access to at least 1 counterspell by the time this deck can do anything, which would spell an instant loss for you. or you know, just exile whatever creature you bring in.
@@FingerinUrDaughter damn, bro, who hurt you?
I think if you build the deck to have 4 win con cards that would mean you do not have to worry about if you exile the win con off the top of the library. This requires research to pick what I would like to call "The Elite Four"
Green, blue and black epic spells (white and red cant win alone) and Approach of the second sun?
Probably should run the shuffle titans and blightsteel because if someone swords or paths blightsteel you just have to scoop bc you won't be able to do anything and tibalt's trickery will be in your graveyard. The shuffle titans are expensive af but they have cast triggers and if they die shuffle tibalt's back into your library.
@@evandwyer6623 Gotta cast approach from your hand to win though, so after casting it you have 7 turns to lose.
@@TheMorbidHobo Sure but all the Epic spells dont win you the game immediately, You do the trickery shinanegans, cast approach, and wait. Im imagining a deck full of manlands to stall as needed. Its definitely not an ideal one option but just thinking of the theme
Great idea.
I feel like you could run Cultivator Colossus instead of blightsteel, as a more budget friendly alternative. Additionally, you can then pump Cultivator as much as you want.
Blightsteel is so good because he cant really be removed with the exception of exile.
@@beware3586 True, but Cultivator is significantly more budget, and you can win with Maze's end. I'd imagine cultivator is only going to go down in price at this point, too.
That's a fantastic suggestion!
You could run Lair of the Hydra and smack people with a 75/75+ land.
Cultivator is still like $32
@@idonotmakevidsyet still cheaper than blightsteel, and you can still pull one from recent packs.
I've brewed 26, mostly lands decks and I've made Imoti work, but not in a way I'd like. For the commander draft list, I used Tasha's Hideous Laughter as the Cascade target since it effectively mills the land decks out.
I like this video because a lot of what I struggle with is EDH basics- there's a lot of cards that are just requirements for basic commander decks, like sol ring, but there's not exactly a comprehensive list of staples.
Love these original and unique decks! Just finished a Old Stickyfingers deck myself,
~85 lands, 12 reanimate spells, and cultivator colossus!
Keep’m coming!
Built a deck around this about a year ago but with Emrakul, the Aeons Torn instead for a no restriction game, and its really hated.
There's a budget friendly cycle of sac lands that might help cast the commander on turn 4, check out Ancient Spring, Sulfur Vent, Tinder Farm, etc. There's 5 allied battery lands I want to try to make work as well, but they seem less consistent. (Fungal Reaches, Calciform Pools, etc). This takes the number of cards that let you cast the First Sliver on Turn 4 from 1 to 11, which is actually decent odds
First off, finding a way to make epic spells work…amazing. Secondly, I believe I may try this out with Cultivator Colossus and Gates for a Maze’s End victory.
wouldn't you lose the game from drawing out your deck? Cultivator Colossus's etb is one trigger and you die from drawing from an empty library before you can activated Maze's End.
@@owenzheng8357 I believe that each process is a "may". I hope I understand that correctly.
@@Juggalozen wait if the last card is maze's end?
wait nvm, yea you right. have fun
I was thinking something similar with valakut and field of the dead as well. You could go far enough to kill any fliers on board and have a shitload of zombies to block until you get the ME victory
From what I got from this video, there’s a way I built it that has alternative wincon instead of relying on the blightsteel. Using Endless swarm overwhelms the board. You also include the animate lands like Lavaclaw Reaches. And for an additional chance, add maze’s end for another possibility. And If you can in your budget, dark Depths and Westvale Abbey are great choices.
I've got my fingers crossed that 2022 gives us a land that is a commander.
I want a 100 card deck.
Arixmethes?
You could play that one changeling from Kaldheim and put it into play as a land
ashaya, soul of the wild
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@@the7gates No, Moritte of the Frost.
I watched this video then laughed so hard because I had all the cards but a couple guild gates. I ordered the remaining ones immediately. I will be playing this deck tomorrow!
How did it fare?
If I ever get into commander, this may be the deck
Just thought of a really broken strategy using this idea. If the 3rd card is Jace, wielder of mysteries (Planeswalker), then you can play him and when you play the commander (because it was countered by Tibalt) all that's left in your library is lands. You completely empty your library into exile, use Jace's +1 ability to draw a card, but because you have no cards in your library and can't draw, you win the game through Jace's passive effect.
Reminds me of using Inverter of truth + Elixer of Immortality to cause the same effect.
Before anyone tries to build this: it doesn't work. You can't use a Planeswalker ability (or anything really) while you're resolving the cascade effect. At the end of the cascade effect, all the lands will be back in your library.
I built your child of alaura deck. And also super appreciate this deck. Love off the wall builds
I just built that also, its a blast to play
So it doesn’t matter if trickery mills colossus, you will still get the colossus. Colossus has a replacement to shuffle itself back in. So it will be shuffled into the library instead of being milled. This is different than the shuffle Titans which have triggered abilities to shuffle the graveyard back in.
The ability would go on the stack but tibalts trickery would need to finish resolving in order for the shuffle trigger to happen
shuffling blightsteel doesnt use the stack, its a replacement effect
Maelstrom Wanderer: Am I a joke to you?
Another Excellent off-the-wall Deck! Will need to try and build this deck sometime soon. Additionally, my version of of your Sliver Overlord/Zirda, the Dawnwaker has become quite the talk at the LGS where I play. Thanks again
With the way the stack works, wouldn't the exiled cards from first sliver still be exiled? So you would have to hope to not exile it with the first sliver?
Nope, putting the found card from the cascade trigger onto the stack happens at the same time as shuffling the rest back in
Yeah that was my question.. when I looked at it...
I was thinking this exactly as I was watching. I looked up the Cascade rulings to be sure too, but it wasn't completely clear. That would be my understanding though.
I like the Eternal Dominion version
It seems like it’s also very fun for the table
The Polymorph/Proteus staff route is literally the wincon in Urza PolyTyrant cEDH, it'd be funny to see it used this way.
If you build this to use endless swarm, might i also recommend reliquary tower? Playing lands after you have executed this combo doesn't really do much for you, so why not use a land to get rid of your max hand size, and make more and more snakes every turn by simply not playing cards! Means you only have to play utility lands if you want to.
Also, I'm totally building this deck to use all 3 of those wincons. That fixes the issue of milling your wincon with trickery, and fixes the problem of it playing the same every time. Sometimes you are snake swarm, sometimes you are a thief, and other times you slap your blightsteel on the table like a baller and dare your opponents to remove it
These ideas are always cool (vids inspired me to build Esika to grab a secret commander) but all the high landcount decks never seem to be able to do anything before turn 5.
I know this video is 6 months old, but I had a very cheap solution. Instead of Bightsteel, you could run Spawnsire of Ulamog. It's a $5.00 card and has an effect to pay 20 mana and cast any number of Eldrazi cards from outside the game without paying their mana costs. So I figure, survive long enough to get to 25 mana in one turn, then cascade, tibalt, and a ton of eldrazi.
Blightsteel is save from being milled because its graveyard clause is a replacement effect.
I love these Off the wall deck techs one of my favourite decks is a scrounged up version of a previous deck(mostly cards i can get my hands on budget or expensive) and is still being changed as sets go by I salute you sir
You can play The First Sliver on turn 3 actually if you get lucky with the Invasion cycle sac lands like Geothermal Crevice.
I was going to make the same comment. They're still budget lands that cost around $0.20 each.
The whole cycle is Ancient Spring, Geothermal Crevice, Irrigation Ditch, Sulfur Vent and Tinder Farm.
I think it would be the most fun (of course, my opinion) to put the 5 spells with epic in here instead of the blightsteel colossus.
Just get your commander out as fast as possible and then spin the wheel of fate to see which epic spell youre gonna get to use! (Maybe also throw in a bad/joke card with mana cost 5 or greater if you want to add some fun risk to this chaotic wheel)
I love this absolute mad lad. *chef's kiss*
I actually built an imoti deck for a buddy of mine that just goes. Part of it involves using kodama to keep the train going. Win con is either thassa or lab man.
Great deck, played your 99 land deck, extremely fun and going to try this as well.
With the tri-lands, if you can put the missing one in which card would you take out?
Love it Mitch! I happen to have all these but the first sliver, so I’m gonna show up to the night FNM with the boys and see what they think 😂
You can add the D&D lands that become into a Creature. And add a couple of Eldrazi too, like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger or Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. Also a Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon and a Nexus of Fate. And you are done.
Does blightsteel's shuffle into library replacement effect trigger during the tibalts trickery? It says instead... I know you can't do anything while something is resolving but do replacement effects still apply? If so you could never mill the blightsteel away and it would be 100%...
The replacement effect changes what happens. So instead of colossus being put into the graveyard by trickery, it will be revealed and reshuffled back into the deck. Then trickery will flip through the deck looking for a card not named first sliver. All of this will be during the resolution of trickery so your opponents won’t be able to respond to colossus being revealed.
This is a super fun deck idea and I love the novelty and freshness. But, this feels better as a possible play in something like the Illuna build so you still have some protection and places to go. This feels like a prayer still. I think this early in the game someone will have a way to exile the Blightsteel or counter Trickery before you can win. At least in the Illuna build you've got two permanents still since The First Sliver is countered and you can have protection and other strategies to play into potentially. You also don't need Tibalt's Trickery in hand and Blightsteel or whichever other card in the deck. The 99 would be fairly different although you still want ways to put Blightsteel or whatever the permanent is back in the deck just like in the Omniscience build, but you could do a lot of other stuff too. You could also shirk the instants and sorceries that make creatures to mutate onto for manlands so that you can build the 99, or 98 I should say, with more synergy and strength for your plan. Love these ideas though Mitch, don't let them stop because they keep influencing my own style in ways that I love. I do like the idea of doing this into one of the cards with Epic and will give that a go. Seems like the best home for that ability anyways.
Ahh fondly remembering that time I turned and opponent's blightsteel into a treasure token with 5 cent enchantment. (minimus containment).
I really like the idea of Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty as a commander. What is your opinion on cascading into Ayula's Influence? You could have Keruga, the Macrosage as your companion to draw more lands. My math has 10 2/2 on turn 6 with that set up.
If you're going the blightsteel route, a few nice lands would include discard abilities (since blightsteel gets shuffled into your library after it goes to grave). This would help mitigate the "oh crap" scenario where you draw the blightsteel.
Some possibilities include Desolate Lighthouse, Rix Maadi Dungeon Palace, and the ever-great Geier-Reach Sanitarium (All budget).
If you're really desperate, Immersturm Skullcairn also does the job: You sacrifice it, deal 3 damage to yourself and discard blightsteel. First time Immersturm has been used like that :P
Na it’s fine if you draw blightsteel you just time walk yourself so that you can discard it
@@davidweller3948 True, but it's nice to be able to expedite that process with nice lands like desolate lighthouse. There's no reason not to, you have a 97 land deck.
If you did mill Blightsteel, does his ability go on the stack before Tibalts trickery resolve? So he would go back in the deck, or does the spell keep priority?
No. It goes on after (but on top of the sliver) because you are resolving the effect of trickery.
After you cast tibbles trickery does it end up in the graveyard or does it go back in the deck to be used again because it was cash with Cascade and technically exiled and all exile gets put in the bottom of the deck or just because it was cast it counts as a regular casting and goes to the graveyard
Wondering if there is a way to make this work with approach of the second sun for easier wins. Also the epic spells seem alot more fun then blightsteel colosus
Omnispell Adept loves Approach of the Second Sun ;) ;)
I really want to build this deck with Eternal Dominion, my playgroup runs some combo heavy decks and I’d love to be able to steal their combos out of their own deck, or have a response for anything on the board by stealing it from someone else, etc. Just seems really interesting to run
I think an alternative commander would best be Maelstrom Wanderer because it gives you access to that red. it won't allow you to have that mana fixing from Jegantha, but does that really matter when you have 2 less colors that you need to fix? Also Maelstrom is under the cost of Eternal Dominion, and Endless Swarm so using blightsteel isnt your only option. Unfortunately since you counter your commander with Tibalt's trickery you won't be able to have your blightsteel have haste on the turn you cast it. the only drawback with this is it takes longer to cast Maelstrom since it costs 8 instead of 5.
While I think this deck is interesting, I have doubts that it will ever win. So much of the removal in commander can actually hit blightsteel (Path, Swords, Chaos Warp, Resculpt, Ravenform, Reality Shift, Return to Dust, Crush Contraband, Dispatch, Unexpectedly Absent, Winds of Abandon, Despark, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, every one of the transform enchantment cards, Cyclonic Rift, Toxic Deluge, Merciless Eviction, not to mention a single counterspell on the trickery), so it isn't even that likely to stay around. Plus even if it does, it will almost always take 2 swings with it to take someone out and it doesn't have haste, so that is minimum 6 turns after you play your commander on turn 4 or 5, which would mean you are almost never winning the game before turn 10 or 11. Plus you have no way to actually defend yourself, and if you play a blightsteel colossus on turn 4 or 5 you will be target #1. Then on top of that I can't imagine this deck would be that fun to actually play. Its probably pretty hilarious the first 2 or 3 times you turbo out a blightsteel but then what? The deck is completely linear. I appreciate the video, and I do really think it is a really interesting and worth while idea to think about, but I don't know if anyone should ever actually buy this deck, if you already have the cards its probably pretty funny to toss it together and see the looks on other peoples faces for a week or two, but I don't think many people would be happy spending 80$ on this deck unless they have other homes for these cards.
Edit: I think the real way to build this deck if you want to win with it is to just use cultivator colossus, Glacial Chasm and Mazes End, plus you could always include petrified field to return mazes end to your hand if someone strip mines it, and deserted temple to untap it and use it immediately if you have to do that. Field of the dead also works quite well in this build to make a bunch of chump blockers but that card is pretty pricey and probably unnecessary for a budget build (and only really necessary if someone strip mines your chasm and they have enough power on the board to kill you). Deck is still super linear and probably really boring to play but it will definitely win some games (Still gets blown out by countermagic).
used this idea to make a malestorm wander deck like this but using creative tecknique instead of the trickery (also means you can swing blightsteel the turn it comes out)
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One issue with jegantha is turn 3 u put in your hand then...someone shuffles hands into libraries
If you draw any of the other cards OR don't draw jegantha your combo is at stake...
Laughs in swords to plowshares
Can you make a Katilda, Dawnhart Prime deck?
What happens if you exile blightsteel with the cascade trigger first and then cast tibalt? Does the blightsteel stay exiled until tibalt resolves?
Maelstrom wanderer is a bit pricier on the mana side, but you could put 2 big creatures in the deck and run it like that. Something like Colosus and Blightsteel would work well
My LGS had the three main cards for this so I built it the same day I watched this video when it came out
Can you play the other 3 mana cascade cards in this deck with no issue?
Another possibility instead of Blightsteel is Borborygmos Enraged as you have all lands. Each of his attack will fill your hand with lands and you can both control the board or peoples faces.
Hah! I saw this last night; didn't read the comments until just now, and I see Thorinox's. The biggest baddie I have lying around is also Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and I made this with him (I also had a First Sliver and a bunch of dual lands). He's great since if you mill him w/Trickery then your graveyard gets shuffled into your library. You just have to NOT draw him the first 4/5 draws--or 6/7 draws if you end up drawing Trickery, since you'll have to cast it from your hand. Additionally, since you're casting Emrakul, you get to take another turn and attack. With Annihilator 6, on turn 5 (enemy's turn 4 if you were on the play). So spicy! Oh yeah, and Emrakul has protection from colored spells, so...
Is there a video of this being played?
I made sucha deck with 95 lands, the payoff is (Apex devastator cascading into)(Maelstrom Wanderer cascading into)Cultivator Colossus - play (almost) all of the 90 lands and win right away with hasty zombies and ~90/90 Cultivator colossus, or hide behind Glacial Chasm and win next turn with Maze's End ... If not countered, the deck wins almost deterministicly turn 4-5 (turn 3 with best ramp) ... Edit: also you only mentioned the krosan verge as a 1 way to ramp and there are 12(?) lands that ramp us into First sliver, the 5 sac lands from Invasion and 5 storage lands From Time spiral (all 10 are budget friendly !) and Gemstone Cavern
How do you always make these decks seem so fun? Since I already have a First Sliver I think I'm gonna make the Eternal Dominion one since I like playing with other peoples cards, and since Endless Swarm is so cheap, I'll buy that one to switch Eternal Dominion out for webcam play.
When you mentioned that imoti couldn't work I instantly had to think of tinker. So I started doing a bunch of math:
If I'm not mistaken, there are six artifact lands in color to date, not counting any that make artifact tokens or anything.
giving you roughly 36% chance to draw atleast one in your opening opening hand.
After mulagaining four times that that number goes up to roughly 90%.
In my playgroup the first muligain is free, so that means 90% of the time I'd have atleast 4 cards left in my opening hand to fix colors, and make sure the last land enters untapped.
And muligaining until I'd have one card left comes down to roughly 97%
And these numbers could be improved if lands that make artifact tokens are included as well.
It was at this at this point i remembered tinker was banned.....*facepalm*
On an unrelated note,
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but if I'm not wrong you could build a similar deck to the one in de video with Plargg at the helm.
Edit, reread tibalt's trickery, and Plargg wouldn't work....*facepalm*
It's almost 3 AM where I live, I should really be getting some sleep
Counterspell?
Maelstrom Wanderer would also work as a commander. There are two cascades, so it could set up more combos. Just a thought.
yet it is 3 turns slower
is there a way to do this with door to nothingness
You could also use trickery to cast reshape the earth, grabbing 9 gates and mazes end. Much cheaper than blightsteel
You can also do this with Codie, Trickery, and a bunch of dragons approaches
If Blightsteel gets put into the graveyard do you have to draw it again? Since you don't have tibalts.
Made this same deck with worldfire and a bunch of small creature lands. Still loses to counterspell
what happens if you draw trickery?
😂😂😂
You have to wait 2 more turns
I think I prefer Eternal Domination more in these choices lol It'll be the first Edh deck that 98% of all cards you play from other people deck LOL
Which really really unique. I really want to try this deck XD
This video is why I need to build some crackhead polymorph/cascade/show and tell deck. It would be so dumb, but I could cast big stuff for basically free
Primal Surge makes for a good wincon with gates, mazes end and deserted temple
would it be possible to "covert" the 99 land deck into this, or do the double faced card count both the front and the back for cascade and jegantha
double faced cards are spell side up while in your library, hand, and graveyard
Maelstrom Wanderer could also work, at least with Blightsteel Colossus + Eternal Dominion. You still have access to red so Tibalt's Trickery is still a thing, you're gonna cascade twice from Maelstrom (not sure how relevant that actually is). The main drawback is that it costs 8 mana in total instead of 5, and you might be better off doing a Mana Severance + Jace Wielder of Mysteries win with this commander anyway.
Buddy had a similar idea for a deck with Windgrace at the helm, 96 lands, and using Violent Outburst as the Cascade card, Tibalt's Trickery as the... Tibalt's Trickery... and having a big dumb idiot to attack your opponents with. (I nominated Emrakul)
If you had no budget on this build what would your land base look like?
Throes of chaos could also be in this deck
This is my sort of deck. Not because it’s a great deck but because it’s funny and I’d love to see my opponents’ faces when they see it in action.
I think I might build a deck like this, but with a couple more golem, like Colossus of Akros, darksteel, etc
From you video I made MTG Brawl Historic decks! One with Ulamog and one with Zacama
Alternatively you can do this with Maelsteom Wanderer as the commander. It’ll cost 8cmc instead of 5cmc but is less complex of a mana base being only 3 colors instead of 5, and because it cascades twice you can get away with putting in 1 other nonland card that’s less than 8 mana… like a ramp spell or something
Nice replcement!
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1:24 With Arixmethes, you can make an 100 land deck. The question is, should you?
i thought u couldn't use companion in commander because there is no side bored....can someone tell me exact ruling's here?
I love weird fun decks like this, sure it has 1 trick, but seems fun
What about a treasure find + borborygmos engraged combo? I feel like that's something you can pull off
I say that the multiple of Colossus takes the correct multiple of octopus (octopodes) - So you get Collosopodes!
Why use blightsteel when you can use Reshape the Earth to grab Maze’s end and 9 gates?
Milling Blightsteel with Tibolts Trickery won't matter since it will immediately shuffle back into you library before the rest of Trickery resolves.
Omg I might go with madcap cause the thought of dying to my own win-con tickles me just right 😈
best thing for me is that i have a first sliver that i use in my sliver tribal, so this deck will be quite cheap for me
I have a Rograkh partner deck where I have to counter Rograkh with Tibalt Trickery
you can't mill blightsteel, if you did it would shuffle itself back into your deck, so its a little safer than the other options
but it doesn't shuffle until the spell resolves, so it's still a huge wiff.
when blightsteel gets milled by tibaults trickery wouldn't you just shuffle blightsteel back in the library before tibaults trickery resolves
You could have an hundred land deck with arixmethes because he is kinda a land
Sounds great, I feel the only weakness is if anyone get rid of BlightSteel Colossus, which isn't very hard, you are Doomed
nice
So Krosan Verge is just a better version of Myriad Landscape for Multi-colored EDH decks that is cheap, almost uncounterable, ramps you, AND fixes your mana? Why don’t we have an entire cycle of these lands already?
This could be build into cascade tribal. I would want more than one way to cascade
I’ve been dying to play a fun and unique deck on mtgo with my buddies and this seems right up my ally
I think I need to see a play through of the deck
Mitch achieves combo. Opponent had swords to plowshares.
Cultivator Colossus would love it