Vorinclex Super Jerks Commander Deck - An Awful Deck For Awful Fun Magic The Gathering
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The Instructor would have gone infect (though I did slyly show a few suggestions if you look carefully). This is the NICE version of this deck. Someone in the comments said I could have gone the route of Mono Green Atraxa Super Jerks. YEP. That's the EVIL version.
Wow. Sounds like me. Wait I think I said something like that.
@@Tuturial464 did you make that up yourself? That's very clever. mono green atraxa. Honestly, if I'd have thought of that catchy title, I might have gone the evil way just because it is so clever.
So why did you decide to just remake the leovold deck?
@@TolarianCommunityCollege when I first saw this card, it was like mono green atraxa in my head because of the similarities of adding counters. This one is less color restricted being to green. Otherwise the ramp color but imagine if it was five colors.
@@eightbitblitz5868 Nah, this is nowhere near Leo. Joking tone on the video aside, my goal was to make a build you can actually PLAY with.
If we normally call planeswalker decks Superfriends then naturally this is the Legion of Doom
Superfiends.
Mine is called Superdicks this plus doubling seasons .........hehehegahaha
Well done. This made my day.
There is a Super Villains edh deck with Nicol Bolas?
Given that it's a Green deck, it should probably be called Planeteers. With Vorinclex as the edgy, Phyrexian Captain Planet.
(Would that make him Captain Pollution?)
Keep in mind that Vorinclex does not specify "effect" like doubling season, and as a result, will also increase your own planeswalker upticks. Combined with the Ozolith, if you have a creature with 2 counters on it that dies, the Ozolith gets 4 counters, and when you move those counters off of it, the creature gets 8. It is also interesting to note that the doubling effect also works with energy and experience counters too.
Edit: Spelling
This is disgusting I'll take 10
Hahahaha
holy shit. yes. yes. this is amazing. I must not allow my friend to learn of this! *tells him anyway*
Oh Jesus Christ, I forgot about Energy. Historic is going to be a nightmare.
Oh goddamnit this is gonna be the stupid-expensive chase mythic isn't it? DAMN YOU WIZARDS
EDIT: Aaaand I called it, yaaaaaay.......
Prof: "Show some control."
Me: Add blue... Got it.
Eh why just throw in a mana web to go with hall of gemstone and since shenanigans are prohibited throw in city of solitude for anti instant/flash fun
@@davidvanderbroek4169 mana web, and hall of gemstone are my favorites
How about Yarok as your commander, now you have tutors too :) Kodama of the East Tree too ;)
Doubling Season is a card historically so weak that needs to start in your command zone. Yay!
Overhyped. I see it in way too much decks
And i Play marath
And buffed to now effect not only you adding loyalty counters but to also punish your opponents, such fun!
@@michaelwilliams8387 And it affects not only starting loyalty counters, but loyalty costs, since it's when "you/an opponent would put", not "when an effect would put".
@@DiabloTommaso sick dissent, bruv
My playgroup defines decks like this as "In Magic jail for crimes against fun." Great video though.
Thing is, it's EDH. Even if everyone but the mono green guy is building tier 7 or 8 decks....when they get ganged up on, they'll probably still lose, ORRRR the group can invest just a whiff of dollars into their decks and get godlike hate cards that bury that specific strategy that you hate.
Really? Most play groups have decks that consistently win on turn 5 and can even win as early as turn 3. Then again I live in a town with a popular military base, so many of them have money, but still it's so common to see decks worse than this
@@phoenixgemini42 We have those decks, we just don't play them against each other. When we can all get some time together to play magic, we want to actually play together and someone has always thrown together some new jank to see how it works. If someone wins by turn 5 then it's over before most of the group got to do anything and only one person had fun. Sometimes we bust them out after agreeing beforehand but we prefer longer games where everyone gets to show what their deck does.
But then I have to ask: what is fun? This deck is actually pretty entertaining. It's easy to disrupt, and once it goes off, it ends the suffering rather quickly.
@@Corwin404 sounds like my kinda group. I may have super gods cards, doesn't mean imma use them.
“Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is an INCREDIBLY unfun card to play against.”
Kaldheim Design Team: *Hold my beer.*
No it's "Hold my Mead!"
I bought a Voice of Hunger for a friend for Christmas one time, as he runs Goreclaw, and honestly, I always look forward to when he plays it. I just find it incredibly fun to try to figure out my way around such a painful card.
Dies to removal, nothing to worry about.
Monstrous raider is far more fun to play against by virtue of the fact you *can* play against it. Voice of hunger screws up your ability to play even if you get rid of him immediately.
I've been playing my Monstrous Rainder against some very happy friends with persist themes. However once I got Nissa SoW/Finale of Devastation they were much less happy about it.
Me, who didn't realise it works on planeswalker loyalty: "my god..."
@@mfk711 and just wait until someone uses this with doubling season...
y u p
"You would always be archenemy with infect."
In fairness, Professor, you will be archenemy before you finish saying your commander's name.
"Okay, I'm playing with Vorin - "
"So we're all agreed that we kill him first, right?"
Every time, without question.
This is exactly the kind of thing we say at our table on Magic night lol. "why are you focusing me" and "I'm not even the threat" seem to come up a lot too lol
The best part is it works with both Vorinclex cards, they don't even need to know which one you are running to focus you down.
As someone with a Vorinclex Voice of Hunger deck, yes this is what they attempt haha
If someone brings this deck, I'll be entitled to get my Gerrard, eggs / boardwipe tribal, no fun for anyone, even myself
Hornyflex: "I'm sorry, is this some sort of game I'm too unfun to understand?"
edit: had to fix spelling error, silly me
I immediately scrolled into the comments to see if anyone mentioned his pornounciation.
Cum on man
Milk truck just arrive.
The best part about commander is that I can annoy not just one opponent, but three at the same time
All while the 3 decks you’re playing against are attempting to do essentially the same thing. Thus begins the cycle of trying to build the most annoying deck within your playgroup.
Also, playing with other despicable people/decks, causes the table-talk/political arguments and/or lobbying for who needs to die first even more awesome.
In fact doubling doubling season practically makes them disappear
"that's such a jerk card for jerks."
~Mel Li, Game Knights #14
Said the Azorius Player, a color notorious for Stax.
Gonna go great with my teferi master of time. Like a free time walk!
Too evil.
Why isnt this presented by the Instructor?? missed opportunity LOL. Still love the video :)
The Instructor wanted to go Infect. He has been sealed in his Instruction Plane for the safety of the multiverse.
I gotta admit, I’m 100% new to Magic, and it’s quickly becoming an obsession of mine. Although that being said, it’s very difficult finding a footing in this massive game :/ so many legendary creatures and card abilities that I don’t even understand, but you have made the already daunting task of learning that much easier, and I thank you.
make a volo deck. you'll love it
Little bit of advice I wish somebody told me, becoming fluent in reading (and speaking if you can manage) phyrexian is a MUST
Me too, but playing, losing, and watching what the other players DO is how we get better!
When this card first unofficially leaked last week I pictured in my head how to play it. I was so small minded...prof you opened up my eyes with this video! Lol 😊 thanks so much
I do like that an opponents Glacial Chasm just laughs at Vorinclex's ability. Makes me so happy.
Can i get an explanation
If you have a chasm, and they have a Vorinclex, you put a counter rounded down onto the Chasm for the cumulative upkeep.
Now what if you had a Chasm AND a Vorinclex^^
So long as the opponent can knock out the other player/players before their Glacial Chasm kills them, sure. If whoever running Vorinclex has, well Pistus Strike for example, or another similar card, Glacial Chasm isn't going to save them.
Honestly I’m just excited the phyrexains are possibly coming back to the story!
there's the theory going around that the major Praetors are going around getting assistance/ subjugating other planes to get help fighting off Karn and his people.
like Jin Gitaxias going to Strixhaven,
Elesh Norn going to Innistrad.
they are brought back to die. they were so hesitant to kill protagonists lately so they cheap their way around thinning the roster out.
@@Dissident850 maybe they were. Maybe we can see the phyrexian win. Be cool to see them take over everything and kinda have jace, gideon, Chandra, Liliana with Nissa AND Garruck team up.
Be a good start. Love to see a huge infect block.
@@gatorloki984 gideon is dead isnt he?
@@Dissident850 he is? Well. Have Lilly bring him back. Lol.
Can I say how much I LOVE that the professor still says, "Into play" every now and then? Good reminders of magic's past. Thanks prof.
"The best defense is a good Ozolith", well I just spit out my coffee.
I am unreasonably excited about Kaldheim. I love Norse mythology and I love Phyrexians from waaay back in my high-school card sets in the invasion cycle. I'm not sure how much to meter my excitement. I hope this is a good set for me to jump back in.
Hey Prof, can you please make an updated version of this deck since a lot of green cards have been added to the game? I love the deck and I love your content
The prof is showing pictures of Puppies and Kittens. >.> this is going to be good
Oh I had a friend who had vorinclex in his omnath locus of rage elemental deck
*HAD* a friend
They moved away and we lost touch, good guy though
I mean who can blame him vorinclex is good. Also Omnath really needed more upgrading.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says VorNIclex. You'll be in the hospital by the end of the video.
im ded
Professor I love that you’re a really formal person yet at the same time you’re showing us decklists that bring suffering to playgroups ;)
deliciously evil. should have had the instructor host
Missed opportunity 🤣
The Instructor would've gone infect; this is the nicest possible version of this deck.
*Billy Butcher voice *
"Fuckin' diabolical mate"
Prof: Now you'll see my TRUE FORM.
Enjoyable video, with the change-up of being willing to be known as That Guy when you play this deck. Did we see an extra glisten in your eyes, or smiles a bit larger than usual? "Games have to end." Superb, sir.
Awesome video and I'm so happy to see the Teysa video showing up again at the end! That video convinced me to make my Teysa deck and I love it!
Wouldn’t this also mean an opponent’s planeswalker would come in at half loyalty?
Yes, they would
The tone is similar to the Leovold video, i miss that style of production. The music was on point also.
Great video prof!
Monogreen Superjerks.
Seems redundant to me.
Omfg, I love how you start showing a list of commanders I bought before the whole covid thing when I was going to make an atraxa plainswalker matters deck. Lots of aoe with destory all CREATURES and such. Now I see a new version of a praetor (my fav tribe, they are so fkn cool and so FUN) and I seem to have a good amount of the cards.
Time to add this deck to my warcrimes folder on tappedout
I'm so happy to see Karametra's Acolyte in this deck, it can be brutal if used properly and is highly underrated imo
The moment you realize you didn't think about the doubling effect on planeswalker. Well maybe wizard R&D did the same thing actually :thonk:
the chance that WotC wasnt aware of doubeling planeswalkers when designing this card is absolutely tiny considering the fact that maro has repeatedly used this interaction as justification for why doubeling season can not be reprinted into standard.
@@rxy228 and yet they did it anyway...
@@copperfield42 vorinclex is arguably less problematic than doubeling season. Its the same cost but on a creature, so it often wont survive a turn and playing it a on the same turn as a pw is very lategame
Excellent Video, Professor! And since Green is my favorite color in MtG, just guess what Commander I'm going to build this weekend! Hahaha...watch out Thursday night play group!
I couldn't stop laughing with that intro. Loved the video!
I'm sorry, I lost you when I saw the puppies in the intro 😂
Edit : really love the new cards for green so far.
Build this when Kaldheim released and it's absolutely brutal!
I remember opening a random Kaldheim pack and then seeing this incredible beast, full alt art glory and imagining the cool things I'd do with it. My primary commander at the time was Willowdusk, Essence Seer, a commander based on counters that fit with Vorinclex. He was amazing. Then much later I made a planeswalker deck, not knowing the first turn bullshit you could do with him. I just thought that it would double the counters added from their + abilities. I thought that this couldn't possibly be right, you just can't use a planeswalker's ultimate on its first turn, maybe with Carth the Lion and Chain veil, but not with just one other card and without tons of mana. I was wrong, and now I'm disgusted. I thought he would be somewhat fair, that he would be based off of +1/+1 counters and maybe infect, but not this. Vorinclex is ruined for me, because I loved him but he grew too powerful to be acceptable. My heart is broken. This truly is an asshole deck.
Super Jerk Drinking Game: Take a shot every time he says "Vorniclex" instead of "Vorinclex".
(Disclaimer: He didn't do it that many times, and I've seen plenty of others make that slip of the tongue; please don't take this as me attacking the Professor. It's just a bit.)
Wow, does he have super passionate followers or something? You seem legitimately afraid 😂
@@frasert8779 Less afraid and more acutely aware of how poorly sarcasm can come across in a text form, and thus I most likely overcorrected out of paranoia. Because I'm a neurotic mess when it comes to interacting with people.
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@@xan7292 Lol that’s understandable, glad to hear it though I guess, sad to see the bad side of the internet whenever it reads it’s hideous head, at least neuroticism can be helped! 😁
Love this deck! Never even thought about planeswalkers with Vorniclex. Thanks Prof.
Number one target with a sign that says I’m mono green atraxra
That's why I didn't go infect with the build.
We want phyrexians to return!!! Hopefully there’s more then just this one
They’re back!
“Super jerks deck”
Me playing Murderous Redcape and sac engines: “Uh, are you sure you want to play that deck?”
My atraxa superfriends probably doesn’t NEED a second doubling season, BUUUUUUT...
1:44 Well now we have another reason to play Ashaya, Soul of the Wild. I didn’t need another reason but I’ll take it.
Love the opening lol.
Just wanna tell you that I love your videos about obnoxious EDH decks. Shouldn’t surprise me that these and similar decks have been commonplace with my group for awhile.
You haven’t seen pure chaos until you’ve played against 3 decks that all make you want to tear your hair out, and all for different reasons. Walking away victorious always leaves me feeling.. different.
It’s awesome.
It's only a game? This is a collectible item, not a game.
Been looking for a new mono green commander to build and this seems interesting enough so you have me hooked.
That outro was... Strange. It kinda felt cut off for some reason.
This is the first deck I reeeaalllly want to play. It has everything I love. Planeswalkers, huge hydras, and lots of counters
"Show some control" Well i would but you don't want me to add blue or black lol.
I'm so happy to see my favorite card and first card ever in the vid: Primordial Hydra! Got it from Duels of the Planeswalkers Xbox 360 promo back in the day (physical cards redeemed from MTG video games, who would've thought?!)
Prof: Use control!
Me: So...add blue, then?
Prof: ...An F for this student!
Instead of Crowned Ceratok and Tusk guard Captain, might I suggest Generous Stray and Gnarlid Colony? The Stray lets you immediately pop a counter down and the Colony gives you the effect for 2 cmc, you don't even need to worry about kicking it.
As a PW player, not having to fear a literal stormcrow chipping at my loyalty would be nice.
8:41 "show some control" GREAT IDEA! I've thusly made a control superfriends deck named Boardwipe Tribal!
ITS ABOUT TIME THEY REPRINT DOUBLING SEASON!
Just did in double masters.
@@mmorkinism not cheap enough.
I lean more toward Elf Tribal for Vorinclex +1/+1, with a couple of the money hydras, like Kalonian.
The extra ramp from cards like Numa and Marwyn lets you begin slapping down your coverage spells like Ascetism much earlier, without disrupting your tempo.
Saying nothing of the fact that cards like Jorega Warcaller and Haldir, Lorien Lieutenant can provide comparable counters support, while contributing to the mana base.
I think Kodama of the *East* Tree is a bit slept on, too.
I can’t wait to have a super jerks deck.
I don't play Commander or own a Commander Deck, but this video makes me want to create this deck even if you said it's a "for jerks" deck. I can start by buying the commander and use all the (good) green cards I have and then improve it over time
I miss the days when EDH was actually casual.
fiendishly good, I'm sure the instructor approves and is pleased you finally came to his way of thinking. Next will we be seeing some Sultai Slow craw with everyone's favorite turtle, Archelos, Lagoon mystic where our opponents will be begging us to end their misery rather than playing the same game for 5 hours? hastag evil grin.
This is the best thing to come from WOTC in years. I’m so happy to see phyrexians back.
Dont think I should note this but... Effects such as Ozolith's interact with Vorinclex and Doubling Season by doubling the amount of counters you are moving. So keep track of the amount of counters cuz they can go wild before you even realize it.
These are the kind of Commanders that have to identify themselves to their neighbors when they move into the format.
This is absolutely nuts!!! I am not sure I have seen a Commander deck that makes walkers so easy to utilize. I am making this deck!!! No questions about it.
"i" before "n" except when it's not 😆
I love Wizards R&D so very very much sometimes. As a filthy filthy green player, I always thought it was a particularly unfair nitpick that planeswalker abilities being a cost meant they didn't work with Doubling Season. Now, everything is right in the world again, and I can go back to getting everything I've ever wanted. Thank you Wizard's R&D!!
Can WotC just stop making sets "with Commander in mind". While it was nice at the start when they would dip their toe in with a card here and there that was focussed on Commander, this whole mindset is adding too much, too fast. I've got four Commander decks, and all four are now completely outclassed in the past year. Like... not even upgradable. Why run Atraxa when this monstrosity is running about?
uhh well atraxa is multicolored and has access to way more card types
@@heroic_gamer2108 There isn't a need for that with Vorinclex here. Access can be great, but is easily overcome by a focussed strategy that requires less to get online. If every card in your deck needs double white, or some combination of W/B/U/G you'll waste time trying to find mana over a mono-green or 80/20 G/B.
@@APyralis Well maybe, but the appeal is ultimating planeswalkers immediately upon entry which is great with green and colorless; however, planeswalker ultimates in other colors are far more lethal than a lot of green or colorless ones ever could be. So I still think that there's definitely an appeal for rolling with Atraxa. The benefit of Vorinclex is that he has a better focused synergy with specific counters and has the doubling season effect stapled onto him in the command zone. Atraxa lacks this, but because she has access to more colors and cards, there are more directions that you can take her decks
"show some control! sheesh..." was something i didn't know i needed to hear till now. great vid
This what you call a Seto Kaiba deck. Screw the rules I’ll make you miserable! Also Joey Wheeler is a third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck! Time to buy out the reserve list!
To go with your land ramp, you need Rampaging Brontodon and Ashaya. Ashaya will essentially combo off with Scute Swarm as well.
That actually made my day, they are doing MORE Phyrexia cards ? I did enjoy Vorinclex before, that seens nuts.
Be in mind I am heavyly outdated, I really wish they could flash out more Phyrexia goods.
Why put Vorinclex in my high power Pir & Toothy deck when I can just build a deck around it?
Great video!
"I know what I must do, But I don't know if I have the strength to do it"
My god, what a card lol - I so need that in my Hamza Counters matter deck lol, im almost drooling at the possibilties, and with Hamza's ability, that could come out for only 2 mana if cards are played right..... *evil laugh* On a side note, would also be interested in what the good Prof would go about making a Pirate tribal EDH or even an EDH deck using Hamza, guardian of Arashin as the commander :)
keep making the great content :)
If the new Vorinclex works like Doubling Season, then it will only double the quantity of Loyalty Counters that Planeswalkers enter with. Their Activated Abilities being used do not add double, as those Loyalty Counters are considered to be a cost to said Activated Ability.
It doesn't use the word "effect" like Doubling Season, so it does work on costs such as the loyalty cost on Planeswalker abilities. Pir, Imaginative Rascal has the same wording as Vorinclex and does work as described.
@@connorhamilton5707 Ah! So it does! Well, that makes this effect even more disgusting.
This is absolutely brutal and beautiful! You have inspired me Professor. Thank you 😈
One scary deck you got there Prof. Guess it's going in the box next to Zozu when my friends forget why we don't overpower our decks too much.
Omg. I love the video.
Especially the reaction to - why not go infinity with jace. Show some controll xD
Keep up the great contant! Really enjoyable :D
He will be a welcome addition to the 99 of my Grothama deck, as I usually tutor or pod into vigor to turn my creatures into.... big numbers
You showed a lot of hydras at that cost 6 mana. That might run into a bit of conflict if you're prioritizing Vorinclex when you hit 6, and then want to follow it up the next turn with a planeswalker. Some good options that can fit lower on the curve would be managorger and bristling hydra. There are a lot of good X hydras that I've enjoyed playing with recently. Steelbane is a great way to get multiple naturalize effects, Voracious Hydra can be good creature removal or quadruple counters, and Hungering Hydra is a nearly strictly better Protena Hydra. I don't know if you want to lean into combo, but the three mana dorks you cited can go infinite with sword of the paruns and a few other things, and then can use that infinite mana to draw your creatures from the deck with duskwatch recruiter or cast an arbitrarily large Walking Ballista.
First thing in my mind when I saw the titel "Oh, I hope they didn't forgett hall of gemstones" - and yes, its in the video :D I love that card
I pulled a Voriclex pack one in the draft I did with my roommates. I have an Azusa,Pir/toothy and a Marwyn deck as well as a lot of hydras. I still feel like my Pir/Toothy deck would be stronger outright but Vorinclex is a direct counter to it. I won't run him in toothy so that my opponents can't steal or copy him. (Doubling season and this in toothy is just asking to mill yourself at a bad time for little benefit)
This is basically my Renata EDH deck, well I guess there's a new leader in town. Thanks for the idea Prof!
When you talk about the opponents using the abilities of the planeswalker, up taking then, and getting half of the counters, i believe that part has a minor rulling error. In the doubling season rules scryfall has a reminder that up take the planeswalker is a part of the cost, so you put the same amount of counters in then.
Vorinclex does not have the "effect" part that Doubling Season has.
I actually am not sure Vorinclex's second ability would affect counters being added the way you think. For instance. Doubling season doubles the counters the planeswalker gets when they enter, that is true. But when you activate their ability, they only get the noted counter on the card. It doesnt double the amount of counters they add since it is their cost or some weird ruling. So i dont think Vorn would stop planeswalkers adding counters for the opponents
Vorinclex doesn't say 'effect' like doubling season. Vorinclex does work with planeswalkers that way while doubling season doesn't.
Zedruu is an inspiration for us all. it isn't about getting, its about being there for others and sharing what you've been blessed with so other can be blessed too.
Loved the Spoiler Professor! Can't wait to see what the Phyrexians are doing on Kaldheim!
I play Vorinclex in the 99 of my Planeswalker Superfriends EDH deck. I got him and Jace Castaway out, and I haven't had that much fun in a good while.
Unfortunately I did not have haste and they had an Ugin that could -0 to kill all phantasms
I could easily be wrong, but the wording of Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider is "if you would PUT one of more counters on a permanent or player..." so unlike doubling season, which states "if an EFFECT", It does double the uptick of plansewakers , but does not double their ETB of counters. As that is "this card enters with x of y counters on it."
I could very easily be wrong. I hope its not just a 'better' doubling season in the command zone, but we'll have to wait and see what the rulings are on this card.
You're correct that it doubles upticking planeswalkers, but incorrect about it doubling their starting loyalty: He does that bit too - when a planeswalker enters the battlefield and gets its starting loyalty counters via an effect (what Doubling Season looks for and replaces), the way that it gets those counters via that effect is the game instructing YOU to place them there (the condition that Vorinclex looks for, and replaces). The way he's worded means that it doesn't matter why you're putting counters on permanents or players, so long as it's you doing that (which in the case of any planeswalker you control as it ETBs, you would be), then you'll be doubling counters.
I didn't realize a super jerk deck was a thing, but in June I built a 5 color chaos that has made games last around 3-4 hours and it's not too expensive coming out at around 200 dollars.
Hi there, new fan here.
I've played this game back in 2010-2012.
I'm looking to get back into this game. Any advice on what to buy? Currently I don't need top decks, just 4-5 different ones that will put up a good fight. Also I wan't to try different styles.
Any advice is apreciated!
Two of my favorite decks are mono G hardened scales I'm modern and mono G walkers in pioneer, so this deck looks sick! I really want to build it!