I play karn and watched this video for 2 reasons. 1. Glad karn is getting some recognition 2. To see what Mitch warned you about. Glad to hear that out of the 15 combos he told you about like 3
Anyone who runs me is probably pretty cool. Anyway, I'm in the credits at 25:32, and on TCGPlayer, my lowest market price is currently $3.34 for my The List printing.
I built arcades thinking he would be terrible, and then I play 10 creatures in 1 turn because of axebane, overgrown battlement, sunscape, and the card draw off arcades. End stepping wall of kelp makes him even more dumb
Yea can confirm on Noyan Dar. Such a fun deck to play. "Untap all creatures you control" effects and "destroy all nonland permanents" cards are just so powerful for it
Kaervek, the Spiteful - that one commander that can shut down many token decks or even Jhoira deck. Daxos the Returned - no one expects that every single nonland in your deck is enchantment. Ormos - no one expects that you would cast Leveler, NO ONE!
@@the-engneer it's like the ultimate aristocrats deck. Don't need sac outlets all your 1/1s just enter and die. And there is sooo many things that trigger on creatures dying that are either non creatures or toughness 2. Its one of my favourite decks
@@tomcoates6147 Thats similar to my Rakdos devils because they all do damage when they die. I could probably make that work. I dig it! Like Vindictive Lich is a 4/1 that has multiple abilities to choose from when he dies
I am watching this video while eating breakfast and I walk away to get some milk and all I hear is, “so that’s gets you a 0/0 which cost 0 but because it’s a 0/0 it’s 0 and that 0 but also that’s 0 because 0/0 and 0 is a coop number so I am gonna say it 29 more times, oh and 0”
I actually built the Taigam deck before, the deck always won with Azor’s Elocutors. Turns out when you can take five extra turns, no one can attack you.
Drakuseth, Maw of Flames is my personal deck that flies under the radar the first time someone sees it. Most people expect Dragon Tribal, but I basically built as an extremely efficient Big-Red deck with a lot of overall power, some amazing ramp engines to get Drakuseth out as fast as possible, and quite a few ways to make him absolutely devastating when he does drop, such as making him a one-turn kill and/or just utterly torching every potential threat on the board. 7 mana may seem like a lot, but once you see him drop several turns early and burn three things on attack, then untap for another combat, you might change your mind... And again, the nice part is it's not built to solely focus on him, so even if someone has an answer, we got a lot more threats left in the 99. I've dropped the guy swinging on turn 4 quite a few times with the current build, though my record is turn 2 with an older list that sacrificed consistent power for more ramp, and I know that turn 1 is possible with the right hand.
Nice. These seem fun. Not only because they work in cool ways, but also because it must be fun to surprise everyone with a runaway deck when they thought you were going to be a pushover.
My azorius decks are lavinia non creature hate, innaiz unnatural selection spirit mirror and cowardice combos, and I'm in the middle of building a bruna non white angel tribal list
As an unesh player since his release, I can safely say people think he is some sort of Timmy tribal deck. Glad to see he is getting some proper rep now 🙃
i would like to mention one of my faves, Tajic Legions edge is pretty slept on, he pretty much gives all creatures indesutructible, so long as it’s not combat based, i’ve one many games with him.
Don’t forget Sharrum, The Hegemon, if they play a blood artist effect creature that means that they intend to combo out with a copy creature effect and bring back sharrum infinitely them kill it with the legend rule
Was really happy to see Noyan Dar, Taigam, and Vela as I have made decks for all 3 of them. In addition, I would like to add an addition to your list. Jolrael, Empress of Beast --- Focused on making your lands creatures and trample over your opponents. With some tokens and Landfall triggers mixed in. Also, she is an amazing deterrent to stop people from wiping your board when you get out of hand, as no one wants to be targeted with her ability during a board wipe.
I picked up Noyan for this reason alone. It really makes my group think again about underestimating him. THIS IS WHY I RUN LAND DESTRUCTION!!! It's not cheap, it's effective.
My favorite EDH deck is a Karn deck and dear god do I agree with you that he should be feared. There are some interesting things you can do with Conjurer's Closet too. It is also quite hilarious to animate a Sol Ring, equip it with several Sword of X and Y and swing a beefy Sol Ring at your opponents'.
People forget that even anthem effects still work with Colfenor, they last yew, it still works if you increase its toughness AND power, and there are A LOT more effect that affect both than just toughness so...its even more terrifying, especially with gutter grime because Colfenor doesn't say nontoken, and gutter grime can create a token creature bigger than the creature itself.
A trick you missed with Colfenor is Death Render. It’s an equipment that, when equipped creature dies you can put a creature from your hand onto the battlefield with Death Render equipped, and equipped creature gets +2+2. Conveniently, Colfenor can put a creature from the grave into hand with the same trigger. And the boost to toughness means you can loop two creatures with the same toughness in the graveyard, and you can do it infinitely at whatever speed your sac outlet is.
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 it’s at its best with Endless Cockroaches. When they die, they return themselves to your hand. Layer those triggers properly and when Deathrender triggers, the cockroaches are already there to be put back on the battlefield. Repeat until satisfactory.
Lol, that Pheldagriff deck would literally never work in my playgroup. The answer would be a firm 'nope, you can give me a hippo but I won't promise to not use it against you' almost every time.
I don't watch your stuff often, but I'm gonna leave a comment and a like since you covered Karn. I've had my now Kozilek, the Great Distortion (then Karn) deck for almost 10 years now and it is my pride and joy!
It really is. I had a list that was super gross, but took it apart cuz im not that mean. It was mostly just take a shit load of turns and use helm of obedience and rest in peace to exile my opponents library's.
Pheldagriff is a decent covert shell to kill the table with infinite blue mana, which can be generated any number of ways. It can easily be a stealth Urza.
Mr. Hippo is also just a great card for bait decks in general, he was my commander for a Bant super friends deck, and his ability to block and pay a single blue to bounce and give a friendly draw card to someone who's not causing you problems usually let's you get up 5-6 walkers before the whole group realizes what you were actually setting up. Terrible card at it's time, but a god send for EDH with that futuresight.
15:30 Just for information, you don't need two creatures to loop; if you just have Menmite and Builder's Blessing, when Menmite dies you can target it with Colfenor ability; so: Memnite + static toughness boost effect + any sac outlet = inf loop.
Colfenor says: "Whenever Colfenor, the Last Yew or another creature you control dies, return up to one OTHER target creature card with lesser toughness from your graveyard to your hand." You missed the word "other". The creature that dies cant be the creature returned to your hand. You need 2 creatures to loop.
I can attest to the power of Noyan Dar. I pulled him in my first pack of his Zendikar set, and made my second commander deck with him. That was years ago, And I've been improving it ever since, he's a bit pricey mana wise, at five, but if you use him properly, keeping him safe and secure, he makes your opponents cry. I've swung with a 3/3 land critter and then two instants later they're getting hit with a 9/9. Throw in Taigam and all of a sudden things are going even worse. I just put Octavia into it and it's HORRIFYING, they go from 3/3s to 8/8s with counters on them. A finely tuned Noyan Dar/Taigam is enough to break a table fast, at the very least get it flipped.
Omg *Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist* never seen or heard of the card but one of my absolute favorite cards is the *vampire* Mirri the Cursed, and I knew it was the alternate reality version of some other Mirri card- but that’s all I knew. Huh, and both are 3/2 with First Strike... Actually on the surprised side. So cool to see the card and know the original is part of a evil strong deck, is cool...
My buddies in my commander group fear my Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait commander deck. Of course it's not just the precon build. They were curious as to how well it would do against Edgar Markov in a 1v1 match, and I took out those weak vampires! lol
I Play Colfenor in Mt Doran commander with things like Builder's blessing and fortifying provisions. I Use it as a truck that attacks every turn and when it finally fies, either from being blocked or from sacrifice, i'm taking back creatures like indulging patrician and Shadrix silverquill.
Great video Mitch, keep them coming! I found Unesh a few year's ago and built a deck. It worked quite well as smacked my opponents with the cards that they chose for me. Quite fun! However, I'm going to pull Unesh out of retirement and build him according to this and surprise the heck out of my play group as I reintroduce them to Unesh. Thanks!
Imoti celebrant of bounty. I think it gets better the even more budget you go. Lowering the powerlevel means a cheaper deck but also makes it even more powerful as those budget cards become better and with longer games of more long-term ramp it just gives more opportunities for imoti's effect to get insane value. Sure I'll cast a 9, then a 8, then a 7, then a 6, then a 4. Drew 4 cards got 25 free ritual mana., sounds nice. I actually like my budget $100 version more than my $800+ version that I both built online. And if I built a $30 version it would probably be even more powerful considering the low power level (and the lower power level table) of the high mana budget cards but the insane power imoti gives them.
Yaayyyy!! I got the idea of Vela Eldrazi tribal last year, and was soo proud over it!! Haha only recently did I consider going Artifact tribal due to her second ability xP
Old but criminals underrated at less than 200 decks on EDHrec is Marton Steomgald. 2 and 2 red for a 1/1 that upon swing, gives other attacking creatures +*/+* where * is the number of attacking creatures you control. Not once have I swung for less than 30 with my deck. Just pump out some mass tokens n go sideways. Craterhoof on a commander is pretty nice, especially in mono red.
I would add in Prava of the Steel Legion paired with a Green commander. A +1/+4 boost to all their tokens only during their turn may at first look unassuming. But then you realize that all those tokens you’re blocking are less likely to die in combat due to their high toughness. Also, with Green they have access to cards like assault formation which let their creatures deal damage equal to there toughness. Now, those 2/5’s flooding the board become 5/5’s that will obliterate you. I’d also add Mowu. Blink for one second, and that 3/3 will become a 10/10 in no time at all.
As someone with a Colfenor deck, his effect is so ridiculously easy to abuse especially with X cost creatures. Built the whole deck around achieving a convoluted 4 piece combo and it's a blast.
So I know its been a while since you started wearing it, but I just want to say thank you for wearing that "End Alz" hoodie. I live with my father who has Alzheimer's and any awareness that is spread about it, no matter how subtle, is always welcome.
I used to run Karn back in the day and I never considered using it with Micosynth Latice to just delete my opponents lands. I typically ran Memnarch to just take all their stuff, but yeah that sounds easier to do to just win a game.
Instantly clicked when I saw Karn. Only got back into MTG at the start of 2020 after about 10 years of not playing, and only really got into commander last September. Karn was the first deck I fully made on my own, meaning it didn't start from a precon, and it was the first deck I had a whole physical deck for. It started off a little weird as a life gain deck using cards like Eternity Vessel and Aetherflux Reservoir, but after playing it a bit I am kinda just liking the whole "Ramp like a maniac then get a bunch of big shit in" play and then turning all of those big artifacts into creatures. Edit: Should mention that I got lucky and picked up Karn just before it shot up back in February for $13, and also pulled a Mana Crypt (as well as two FoW's) from the 2XM boxes I got before they skyrocketed as well. Got some really good timing.
I initially scoffed at the idea of fearing Phelddagrif, but then came your explanation, and another very important fact: hippos *are* among the most dangerous animals alive.
Alela, Artful Provocateur: cranial plating, answered prayers, brave the sands and sephara, sky’s blade. As well as all the 0 costing artifacts like: ornithopter, mix opal and spell book.
I got one you had better fear!! Liesa, Shroud of Dusk! She is vicious I brewed up a CEDH deck with her, and it causes problems with whatever pod I'm in! My friend took the deck finished 2nd at our LGS with it, and won a Force of Will with that deck!!
Gargos, Vicious Watcher has struck fear into my entire town. Mono green hydra lord at 8/7 with vigilance that makes all hydras cost 4 less and any time your creatures are targeted he fights... yeah. I’ve turn one cast my 6 cmc commander once. I think I’ve caused nightmares with this deck.
In black blue there a lot of creatures that want to hit and exile stuff like the injuest ability but also alot of cards that let you still those exiled cards that's how I would build veila as long as shes out your garinted to be able to steal cards from you opponents that they cant get back
Siona, captain of the pileas. she is a selesnia aura based commander able to get extras auras and run all of the enchantress cards whilst producing a wall of chump blockers. it is easy for her to get big enough to 21 people over a medium-long game and she is able to protect herself and arm herself with ways to avoid removal. In short she doesn't look like much but she is more than capable of actually dominating a table... combo decks? we just kill them, agro decks we can weather them and then kill them decks with a large wall of green creature mass? we choose to make angels instead of warriors. all in all underrated but surprisingly powerful commander worth a look for anyone looking for a reasonably fast deck that can assemble lethal mass of boys or just 21 people
I just realized my go-to 'ruin that deck's day' Zur deck can't actually use O-Ring to exile a land creature, so Noyan does have that in his favour. I mean, he'll be Oublietted very quickly, or just collapse into tears when Rule of Law gets set up, so I don't need to worry, but it is a funny interaction. Crappier cards that only target creatures (or creatures and artifacts) would work vs Noyan's land-dude, as does good old creature removal spells, provided they can target it. I think using Lotus Vale as your land creature seems a bit odd, but I suppose it can work decently with vigilance. Hexproof on a land is quite nice. White does have other ways to protect lands, so you can probably make Lotus Vale the safest permanent out there, fearing only weird ass cards like The Great Aurora or an exile wipe (a hexproof, indestructible land creature with high toughness is almost impossible to get rid of). I know about the power of Dovescape because I run it as a win con. It is a ton of mana at 6, but if it resolves, most decks can no longer win, and may not be able to do much other than make bird tokens, which isn't very threatening in cEDH with all tiny spells. I guess Ad Naus makes 5 1/1s, that's something? I'm now curious about Taigam for cEDH... he looks really nifty, offering a color pair that loves instants big perks, and there are a lot of things you can do with him obviously. I love how you can set things up so your creature spells can't be countered, just make them all Dragons (and be glad nobody runs Crux of Fate in cEDH), so if you have a creature/spell combo, you can make it immune and hopefully win. You might need to protect Taigam, but you only need to counter any given spell once with him out, which is just a huge boost in cEDH I feel like, where getting a counter to stick can be awful. You could even try to win through stuff like Talrand, who makes 2 Drakes per spell potentially, which is a ton of value if you can set it up (White can find Talrand I think, giving you a few ways to dig for him or another token generator). I guess the 'traditional' cEDH route at this point is infinite extra turns via Mystic Sanctuary, which is probably quite a bit better, but just being able to stop anyone else's win sounds swell enough to build around, and the double spell is just amazing, feeling completely unnecessary on an otherwise fine Commander already.
I'd like to throw Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons into the mix here. Nobody really ever expects that deck to do much, considering it's a 2/2 that generates 1/1's pretty slowly. However, if you build the deck right, you can overrun your opponents with an army of infinite snakes, or just drain their life total with infinitely dying snakes. The possibilities are nearly endless
Vis-sir-a seer. I know its a small thing but seriously, his flavor text is a pun because he's reading the guts of the creatures you sac to it. Also i love your vids because im uber budget so you save my commander experience
I have a mirri in my najeela deck when mirri is out crap hits the fan for my opponents, i also have a mirri cdr thats partial tokens but mostly somewhat tribal after watching this thats going to change
Tibalt can be really fun, drawing 5 cards on your turn and stealing others cards to use against them. I've only been able to ultimate him once and you cant lose when you do
i built pheldagriff i love my mates getting there combos of on vorinclex and then i play reigns of power then bounce my only creature then win with only 5 mana banter
My roommate runs a Saheeli, the Gifted deck with mostly artifact creatures, Darksteel Forge, Kuldotha Forgemaster, and a few Eldrazi to round it out. If you don't take his Darksteel and Kuldotha out he doubles his artifacts every turn and they're indestructible.
Yeah, unesh is nutter butters. With dream halls/omniscience/rite of replication I'm pretty much guaranteed to win off of thassa's Oracle. I also have a really decent Atemsis win condition as well, + the deck is so good at making value. I also think that the deck had a lot of interesting decisions and has a lot of and complex branching paths. Since unesh is monocolored, it loses out on some of the powerful nonblue Sphinx's and mono blue does have a few shortcomings also, Unesh can come off as a tiny bit annoying by having people constantly sort piles, and you can spend a lot of time essentially doing nothing and end up pissing off the entire table. but the right unesh build is definitely something that you should look out for.
Alternate title: Commanders that Mitch has been rinsed by at his last game night 😂
Haha what I was thinking 🤣🤣🤣
Nice
Notice he liked almost all other comments 😂😂
I think this Channel is a Kind of therapy, he tells us how he was hurt😅
Hereasy ! Mitch never looses!!!!!!
I like to think Mitch just got really upset at all these decks in his pod and then made a video about it 🤣🤣
Airing out his trauma
I'll show them
At Last, Yew understand Colfenor's power.
That's disgusting. It's even worse cuz I had to reread it to get it.
Puns like this really sap my energy.
Don’t you mean his toughness?
@@dotmp3883 you beat me by 35 seconds
@@SirCorn :)
I play karn and watched this video for 2 reasons.
1. Glad karn is getting some recognition
2. To see what Mitch warned you about.
Glad to hear that out of the 15 combos he told you about like 3
I LIVE for all the mud combos!
Anyone who runs me is probably pretty cool. Anyway, I'm in the credits at 25:32, and on TCGPlayer, my lowest market price is currently $3.34 for my The List printing.
@PekinWoof _ I'm trying :'(
Should I sell all 35 copies that I horde of you yet? You're all foil.
@@YBladeY You've earned the right to make that choice yourself. Respect.
You'll get reprinted one day, buddy!!
Good to see Unesh getting recognize for how scary he can be. Definitely my favorite commander next to Arcades
I love unesh. Mine started as a joke, but man it has been awesome
I built arcades thinking he would be terrible, and then I play 10 creatures in 1 turn because of axebane, overgrown battlement, sunscape, and the card draw off arcades. End stepping wall of kelp makes him even more dumb
fun new card for Mirri from Strixhaven: Strixhaven Stadium. "I attack each player with 11 tokens, and mirri attacks a random player. you all lose."
Yea can confirm on Noyan Dar. Such a fun deck to play. "Untap all creatures you control" effects and "destroy all nonland permanents" cards are just so powerful for it
Totally, been slowly piecing mine together
I've never seen anyone else notice the Karn+Mana Crypt+Salvaging Station combo. My secret has been revealed
Oh no
Kaervek, the Spiteful - that one commander that can shut down many token decks or even Jhoira deck. Daxos the Returned - no one expects that every single nonland in your deck is enchantment. Ormos - no one expects that you would cast Leveler, NO ONE!
I never thought of using Kaervek as a commander 🤔
@@the-engneer it's like the ultimate aristocrats deck. Don't need sac outlets all your 1/1s just enter and die. And there is sooo many things that trigger on creatures dying that are either non creatures or toughness 2.
Its one of my favourite decks
@@tomcoates6147 Thats similar to my Rakdos devils because they all do damage when they die. I could probably make that work. I dig it! Like Vindictive Lich is a 4/1 that has multiple abilities to choose from when he dies
I am watching this video while eating breakfast and I walk away to get some milk and all I hear is, “so that’s gets you a 0/0 which cost 0 but because it’s a 0/0 it’s 0 and that 0 but also that’s 0 because 0/0 and 0 is a coop number so I am gonna say it 29 more times, oh and 0”
I actually built the Taigam deck before, the deck always won with Azor’s Elocutors. Turns out when you can take five extra turns, no one can attack you.
Good lord! And I thought just pairing him with Dovescape was mean! I hope I never face your deck!
That first Karn combo plus Altar of the Brood = instant win if the opponents don't have artifact removal. Nice
Drakuseth, Maw of Flames is my personal deck that flies under the radar the first time someone sees it.
Most people expect Dragon Tribal, but I basically built as an extremely efficient Big-Red deck with a lot of overall power, some amazing ramp engines to get Drakuseth out as fast as possible, and quite a few ways to make him absolutely devastating when he does drop, such as making him a one-turn kill and/or just utterly torching every potential threat on the board. 7 mana may seem like a lot, but once you see him drop several turns early and burn three things on attack, then untap for another combat, you might change your mind...
And again, the nice part is it's not built to solely focus on him, so even if someone has an answer, we got a lot more threats left in the 99.
I've dropped the guy swinging on turn 4 quite a few times with the current build, though my record is turn 2 with an older list that sacrificed consistent power for more ramp, and I know that turn 1 is possible with the right hand.
I love that I’ve already played over half of the commanders in this video using these strategies.
Me too😂
Nice. These seem fun. Not only because they work in cool ways, but also because it must be fun to surprise everyone with a runaway deck when they thought you were going to be a pushover.
My Karn Mud Deck just absolutely wrecks. There is nothing like turning artifacts into big boy creatures.
Mine is very low powered and wins off all it's non ramp artifacts being over 6 cmc if I stay alive I can win off of thicc jank
Oh Eddy, how do you keep Mitch as a friend 😂
A steady supply of food as a bribe has worked wonders.
Eddie just gives Mitch a few hippos lol
Everybody needs to have a good Mitch around.
@@eddie_cq8276 Looks like you'll need to find some new commanders for part 2 to happen
Shhhhh Mitch you're exposing my secret Noyan Dar strats!
My azorius decks are lavinia non creature hate, innaiz unnatural selection spirit mirror and cowardice combos, and I'm in the middle of building a bruna non white angel tribal list
As an unesh player since his release, I can safely say people think he is some sort of Timmy tribal deck. Glad to see he is getting some proper rep now 🙃
i would like to mention one of my faves, Tajic Legions edge is pretty slept on, he pretty much gives all creatures indesutructible, so long as it’s not combat based, i’ve one many games with him.
Don’t forget Sharrum, The Hegemon, if they play a blood artist effect creature that means that they intend to combo out with a copy creature effect and bring back sharrum infinitely them kill it with the legend rule
My sharuum deck is a draft voltron deck with a sword of the meek combo and one 6 cmc artifact tutor for my card draw engine
I wondered how bad your playgroup was that your SCARY deck was so dominating....this video of SCARY commanders explains a lot
Was really happy to see Noyan Dar, Taigam, and Vela as I have made decks for all 3 of them. In addition, I would like to add an addition to your list. Jolrael, Empress of Beast --- Focused on making your lands creatures and trample over your opponents. With some tokens and Landfall triggers mixed in. Also, she is an amazing deterrent to stop people from wiping your board when you get out of hand, as no one wants to be targeted with her ability during a board wipe.
Are we going to see you all play soon? Cause we need that more. Please and thank you.
Karn was my first commander. Its great seeing him get the love he deserves.
I picked up Noyan for this reason alone. It really makes my group think again about underestimating him. THIS IS WHY I RUN LAND DESTRUCTION!!! It's not cheap, it's effective.
Magda is something to 😨😨😨😨
My play group literally has PTSD from turn 3 blightsteel Colossus
me: reads colfenor to my opponents
opponents: "so its a lot of high toughness stuff?"
me: laughs maniacally! "no"
You forgot these commanders; Narset, Enlightened Master, Grand Arbiter Agustin IV and Nicol Bolas, the Ravager.
My Bolas, the Ravager deck agrees.
thanks for the new suggestions, mitch. my taigam deck just got even meaner!
I've had Karn for a while and have been thinking of making him a commander, thank you for the inspiration!
I used to play Karn as commander. My playgroup was not about it, even in our high power games.
My favorite EDH deck is a Karn deck and dear god do I agree with you that he should be feared. There are some interesting things you can do with Conjurer's Closet too. It is also quite hilarious to animate a Sol Ring, equip it with several Sword of X and Y and swing a beefy Sol Ring at your opponents'.
People forget that even anthem effects still work with Colfenor, they last yew, it still works if you increase its toughness AND power, and there are A LOT more effect that affect both than just toughness so...its even more terrifying, especially with gutter grime because Colfenor doesn't say nontoken, and gutter grime can create a token creature bigger than the creature itself.
I run Mirri as Voltron and if you give her menace or similar effects, she's an unblockable powerhouse and I love it
A trick you missed with Colfenor is Death Render. It’s an equipment that, when equipped creature dies you can put a creature from your hand onto the battlefield with Death Render equipped, and equipped creature gets +2+2. Conveniently, Colfenor can put a creature from the grave into hand with the same trigger. And the boost to toughness means you can loop two creatures with the same toughness in the graveyard, and you can do it infinitely at whatever speed your sac outlet is.
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 it’s at its best with Endless Cockroaches. When they die, they return themselves to your hand. Layer those triggers properly and when Deathrender triggers, the cockroaches are already there to be put back on the battlefield. Repeat until satisfactory.
Lol, that Pheldagriff deck would literally never work in my playgroup.
The answer would be a firm 'nope, you can give me a hippo but I won't promise to not use it against you' almost every time.
Then no one gets hippos :(
I don't watch your stuff often, but I'm gonna leave a comment and a like since you covered Karn. I've had my now Kozilek, the Great Distortion (then Karn) deck for almost 10 years now and it is my pride and joy!
I am surprised that you didn't put Ghen The Arcanum Weaver using Enchantment creatures and Mortal Kombat
Get over here
Man, never realised how good Taigam's ability actually is. That dovescape combo is gross.
It really is. I had a list that was super gross, but took it apart cuz im not that mean. It was mostly just take a shit load of turns and use helm of obedience and rest in peace to exile my opponents library's.
Pheldagriff is a decent covert shell to kill the table with infinite blue mana, which can be generated any number of ways. It can easily be a stealth Urza.
Mr. Hippo is also just a great card for bait decks in general, he was my commander for a Bant super friends deck, and his ability to block and pay a single blue to bounce and give a friendly draw card to someone who's not causing you problems usually let's you get up 5-6 walkers before the whole group realizes what you were actually setting up. Terrible card at it's time, but a god send for EDH with that futuresight.
The name “Sharding Sphinx” make me smile everytime I say it.
Last time I was this early... ok comedy is hard
Last time you were this early...
Someone else finished your joke 👌
(Got u fam)
@@seb_fancysheep thanks man
@@seb_fancysheep 88im3m
15:30 Just for information, you don't need two creatures to loop; if you just have Menmite and Builder's Blessing, when Menmite dies you can target it with Colfenor ability; so:
Memnite + static toughness boost effect + any sac outlet = inf loop.
Colfenor says: "Whenever Colfenor, the Last Yew or another creature you control dies, return up to one OTHER target creature card with lesser toughness from your graveyard to your hand." You missed the word "other". The creature that dies cant be the creature returned to your hand. You need 2 creatures to loop.
I can attest to the power of Noyan Dar.
I pulled him in my first pack of his Zendikar set, and made my second commander deck with him.
That was years ago, And I've been improving it ever since, he's a bit pricey mana wise, at five, but if you use him properly, keeping him safe and secure, he makes your opponents cry.
I've swung with a 3/3 land critter and then two instants later they're getting hit with a 9/9.
Throw in Taigam and all of a sudden things are going even worse.
I just put Octavia into it and it's HORRIFYING, they go from 3/3s to 8/8s with counters on them.
A finely tuned Noyan Dar/Taigam is enough to break a table fast, at the very least get it flipped.
Omg *Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist* never seen or heard of the card but one of my absolute favorite cards is the *vampire* Mirri the Cursed, and I knew it was the alternate reality version of some other Mirri card- but that’s all I knew. Huh, and both are 3/2 with First Strike... Actually on the surprised side. So cool to see the card and know the original is part of a evil strong deck, is cool...
My buddies in my commander group fear my Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait commander deck. Of course it's not just the precon build. They were curious as to how well it would do against Edgar Markov in a 1v1 match, and I took out those weak vampires! lol
I Play Colfenor in Mt Doran commander with things like Builder's blessing and fortifying provisions. I Use it as a truck that attacks every turn and when it finally fies, either from being blocked or from sacrifice, i'm taking back creatures like indulging patrician and Shadrix silverquill.
Great video Mitch, keep them coming! I found Unesh a few year's ago and built a deck. It worked quite well as smacked my opponents with the cards that they chose for me. Quite fun! However, I'm going to pull Unesh out of retirement and build him according to this and surprise the heck out of my play group as I reintroduce them to Unesh. Thanks!
Love Karn! I run all of them in my red Artifacts Dahretti deck❤️❤️ plus all Ugins 🤣
I have always loved sphinx cards. I built sphinx tribal immediately when Unesh was printed. It's good to see others like tribal sphinxes.
I love my Mirri voltron deck. Super fun. She has first strike, so once you give her deathtouch and trample nobody bothers blocking her anyway.
noyan is one of my personal fav commanders
Dovescape with Taigam is brilliant. Wow. Really scary...
Imoti celebrant of bounty. I think it gets better the even more budget you go. Lowering the powerlevel means a cheaper deck but also makes it even more powerful as those budget cards become better and with longer games of more long-term ramp it just gives more opportunities for imoti's effect to get insane value. Sure I'll cast a 9, then a 8, then a 7, then a 6, then a 4. Drew 4 cards got 25 free ritual mana., sounds nice. I actually like my budget $100 version more than my $800+ version that I both built online. And if I built a $30 version it would probably be even more powerful considering the low power level (and the lower power level table) of the high mana budget cards but the insane power imoti gives them.
I once built a deck on Karn, that could make Blightsteel Colossus on turn 2,but only in theory
As someone who plays taigam, it also has a few infinite turn combos as well that are pretty easy to assemble
Thank you for the inspiration! How about Noyan Dar + Taigam! On curve and more instants and sorceries each turn.
I didn't know about Vela before watching this and now I want to build a deck with/around her in the future.
Yaayyyy!! I got the idea of Vela Eldrazi tribal last year, and was soo proud over it!! Haha only recently did I consider going Artifact tribal due to her second ability xP
Old but criminals underrated at less than 200 decks on EDHrec is Marton Steomgald. 2 and 2 red for a 1/1 that upon swing, gives other attacking creatures +*/+* where * is the number of attacking creatures you control. Not once have I swung for less than 30 with my deck. Just pump out some mass tokens n go sideways. Craterhoof on a commander is pretty nice, especially in mono red.
I would add in Prava of the Steel Legion paired with a Green commander. A +1/+4 boost to all their tokens only during their turn may at first look unassuming. But then you realize that all those tokens you’re blocking are less likely to die in combat due to their high toughness. Also, with Green they have access to cards like assault formation which let their creatures deal damage equal to there toughness. Now, those 2/5’s flooding the board become 5/5’s that will obliterate you.
I’d also add Mowu. Blink for one second, and that 3/3 will become a 10/10 in no time at all.
As someone with a Colfenor deck, his effect is so ridiculously easy to abuse especially with X cost creatures. Built the whole deck around achieving a convoluted 4 piece combo and it's a blast.
So I know its been a while since you started wearing it, but I just want to say thank you for wearing that "End Alz" hoodie. I live with my father who has Alzheimer's and any awareness that is spread about it, no matter how subtle, is always welcome.
i was curious if you would do a video on sarulf, realm eater?
Melira, Sylvok Outcast has to have some untapped potential.
I was thinking that too. If anything its worth including in green decks if youre facing -1/-1 counter decks.
I want to see Eddie's Noyan Dar decklist...that sounds fantastic!
I used to run Karn back in the day and I never considered using it with Micosynth Latice to just delete my opponents lands. I typically ran Memnarch to just take all their stuff, but yeah that sounds easier to do to just win a game.
yall got a decklist for all them?
I feel Syr Konrad is also a sleeper because his trigger tracks all creature cards as they move through zones
It's brutal, a friend of mine plays him in his Hogaak deck
I've lost many times to it
Instantly clicked when I saw Karn. Only got back into MTG at the start of 2020 after about 10 years of not playing, and only really got into commander last September. Karn was the first deck I fully made on my own, meaning it didn't start from a precon, and it was the first deck I had a whole physical deck for. It started off a little weird as a life gain deck using cards like Eternity Vessel and Aetherflux Reservoir, but after playing it a bit I am kinda just liking the whole "Ramp like a maniac then get a bunch of big shit in" play and then turning all of those big artifacts into creatures.
Edit: Should mention that I got lucky and picked up Karn just before it shot up back in February for $13, and also pulled a Mana Crypt (as well as two FoW's) from the 2XM boxes I got before they skyrocketed as well. Got some really good timing.
I initially scoffed at the idea of fearing Phelddagrif, but then came your explanation, and another very important fact: hippos *are* among the most dangerous animals alive.
Alela, Artful Provocateur: cranial plating, answered prayers, brave the sands and sephara, sky’s blade. As well as all the 0 costing artifacts like: ornithopter, mix opal and spell book.
As someone who built an Unesh deck as his first ever commander deck, it is a commander to be feared. Who rules the skies you ask? He does. Only Unesh.
I got one you had better fear!! Liesa, Shroud of Dusk! She is vicious I brewed up a CEDH deck with her, and it causes problems with whatever pod I'm in!
My friend took the deck finished 2nd at our LGS with it, and won a Force of Will with that deck!!
Gargos, Vicious Watcher has struck fear into my entire town. Mono green hydra lord at 8/7 with vigilance that makes all hydras cost 4 less and any time your creatures are targeted he fights... yeah.
I’ve turn one cast my 6 cmc commander once. I think I’ve caused nightmares with this deck.
In black blue there a lot of creatures that want to hit and exile stuff like the injuest ability but also alot of cards that let you still those exiled cards that's how I would build veila as long as shes out your garinted to be able to steal cards from you opponents that they cant get back
"But because my friend is evil you're gonna cast Omniscience instead"
Siona, captain of the pileas. she is a selesnia aura based commander able to get extras auras and run all of the enchantress cards whilst producing a wall of chump blockers. it is easy for her to get big enough to 21 people over a medium-long game and she is able to protect herself and arm herself with ways to avoid removal. In short she doesn't look like much but she is more than capable of actually dominating a table... combo decks? we just kill them, agro decks we can weather them and then kill them decks with a large wall of green creature mass? we choose to make angels instead of warriors. all in all underrated but surprisingly powerful commander worth a look for anyone looking for a reasonably fast deck that can assemble lethal mass of boys or just 21 people
I just realized my go-to 'ruin that deck's day' Zur deck can't actually use O-Ring to exile a land creature, so Noyan does have that in his favour. I mean, he'll be Oublietted very quickly, or just collapse into tears when Rule of Law gets set up, so I don't need to worry, but it is a funny interaction. Crappier cards that only target creatures (or creatures and artifacts) would work vs Noyan's land-dude, as does good old creature removal spells, provided they can target it. I think using Lotus Vale as your land creature seems a bit odd, but I suppose it can work decently with vigilance. Hexproof on a land is quite nice. White does have other ways to protect lands, so you can probably make Lotus Vale the safest permanent out there, fearing only weird ass cards like The Great Aurora or an exile wipe (a hexproof, indestructible land creature with high toughness is almost impossible to get rid of).
I know about the power of Dovescape because I run it as a win con. It is a ton of mana at 6, but if it resolves, most decks can no longer win, and may not be able to do much other than make bird tokens, which isn't very threatening in cEDH with all tiny spells. I guess Ad Naus makes 5 1/1s, that's something?
I'm now curious about Taigam for cEDH... he looks really nifty, offering a color pair that loves instants big perks, and there are a lot of things you can do with him obviously. I love how you can set things up so your creature spells can't be countered, just make them all Dragons (and be glad nobody runs Crux of Fate in cEDH), so if you have a creature/spell combo, you can make it immune and hopefully win. You might need to protect Taigam, but you only need to counter any given spell once with him out, which is just a huge boost in cEDH I feel like, where getting a counter to stick can be awful. You could even try to win through stuff like Talrand, who makes 2 Drakes per spell potentially, which is a ton of value if you can set it up (White can find Talrand I think, giving you a few ways to dig for him or another token generator). I guess the 'traditional' cEDH route at this point is infinite extra turns via Mystic Sanctuary, which is probably quite a bit better, but just being able to stop anyone else's win sounds swell enough to build around, and the double spell is just amazing, feeling completely unnecessary on an otherwise fine Commander already.
Is there a Decklist for Colfenor?
I'd like to throw Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons into the mix here. Nobody really ever expects that deck to do much, considering it's a 2/2 that generates 1/1's pretty slowly. However, if you build the deck right, you can overrun your opponents with an army of infinite snakes, or just drain their life total with infinitely dying snakes. The possibilities are nearly endless
No! My Roil Shaper was my sleeper deck! You can't tell them about it! Lol
Vis-sir-a seer. I know its a small thing but seriously, his flavor text is a pun because he's reading the guts of the creatures you sac to it. Also i love your vids because im uber budget so you save my commander experience
I could not fibd the Taigam list. Is it behind the decklists link?
I have a mirri in my najeela deck when mirri is out crap hits the fan for my opponents, i also have a mirri cdr thats partial tokens but mostly somewhat tribal after watching this thats going to change
Ive had a Karn since i picked one up for my collection pre pandemic when he was only 15 bucks or so. Cant wait to brew it up!
Same i was able to trade for him just because i liked the card
Prices are getting crazy now
Tibalt can be really fun, drawing 5 cards on your turn and stealing others cards to use against them. I've only been able to ultimate him once and you cant lose when you do
is anyone else watching just for commanders to annoy your friends with
That's my purpose for existing and I still lose
i built pheldagriff i love my mates getting there combos of on vorinclex and then i play reigns of power then bounce my only creature then win with only 5 mana banter
My roommate runs a Saheeli, the Gifted deck with mostly artifact creatures, Darksteel Forge, Kuldotha Forgemaster, and a few Eldrazi to round it out. If you don't take his Darksteel and Kuldotha out he doubles his artifacts every turn and they're indestructible.
I'd like to see a video of a game with these 4 commander decks
Awesome video, Noyan Dar is such a unique commander!
Hooray for colfenor! So glad to see him finally getting recognised as the machine he is!
I have to admit, that last build would make my group groan so hard, that they would deal X damage to each creature without flying and each player.
Mitch, can you give us a copy of the other decklists aside from Eddie's Unesh? I wanna give those commanders a try.
at first my play group thought my marrow-gnawer commander was adorable, until I made “infinite” rats lol
Yeah, unesh is nutter butters. With dream halls/omniscience/rite of replication I'm pretty much guaranteed to win off of thassa's Oracle. I also have a really decent Atemsis win condition as well, + the deck is so good at making value. I also think that the deck had a lot of interesting decisions and has a lot of and complex branching paths. Since unesh is monocolored, it loses out on some of the powerful nonblue Sphinx's and mono blue does have a few shortcomings also, Unesh can come off as a tiny bit annoying by having people constantly sort piles, and you can spend a lot of time essentially doing nothing and end up pissing off the entire table. but the right unesh build is definitely something that you should look out for.
would probably also have included Planar birth in Noyan Dar depending on the basic land count and how rough the game is.
Mitch’s destroy on sight is the color Blue