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Slugs are Better than Friends | Toxrill the Corrosive | EDH | Commander | Magic the Gathering
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Finally a Dimir deck that I like that isn’t mill 😌
Hey gisa and geralf (my personal favorite blue black deck why I refuse to make a new dimir deck) zombies isn't Mill it can use mill however as one of the many win cons with undead alchemist, altar of the brood and altar of dementia set up right and watch the table rage as you slowly kill everyone.
@@michaelnaramore9310 i think wilhelt is a better commander for zombies
It's better tribal base start but gisa and geralf have built in recursion value for the rest of your zombies to pick your best tool for the job like being able to keep a Voltron commander out of the game by constantly replaying fleshbag maurader, or setting up a good diregraf colusus or having any number of sidis tutors
@@michaelnaramore9310 yeah, gisa and Geralf are more control and wilhelt is for make an a zombie horde
@@joel5ln167 although you can put wilhelt into gisa and geralf to easily make a zombie horde with the same control
Having played with Toxrill, I've noticed a number of things:
+ Proliferate is unnecessary. Things will be dead in no time, even without it. Maybe a Karn's Bastion, if you really really want to. But don't waste any spell or creature slots.
+ You are very, very vulnerable until Toxrill is out. If you can run Propaganda, No Mercy, or Aetherspouts, highly recommended. Toxrill's cost is what makes him "fair."
+ The first time folks are exposed to Toxy, they won't know how it works. Once it gets going, however...from then on, your friends will fully know how it works and will want to do everything to prevent it.
+ I run a lot of mana. I play Crypt Ghast and Nirkana Revenant, plus Cabal Coffers and Urborg. None of these are budget. Leaden Myr is a good budget choice, as is Dark Ritual.
+ I run a lot of protection, too. Almost all protection spells are budget. Alexi's Cloak, Feign Death, Kaya's Ghostform, Lazotep Plating, Mirror Shield, Supernatural Stamina, Undying Evil, and You See a Guard Approach are all good budget cards to consider.
Overall, because of the one-note-ness of Toxrill, I wonder about how much longer the deck will be playable before every game becomes more or less the same. I'm not there yet, but I can see that moment at some not too distant point in the future.
Everything I wanted to say. Basically a very unusual voltron deck. Toxrill is a must-kill if your opponents want to actually play magic, so how do you protect it when you are Archenemy? Your deck will have to be mostly interaction and protection. But will it be fun a few months from now? Let us know! I run a Scarab God deck that I find very satisfying in these colors. He's a problem, but not quite as smothering.
Thanks for this, I'm building this on moxfield and I'm have the worst time play testing they deck with proliferate
Thought the same thing about proliferate after 1st play. Useless until Toxrill shows up and probably overkill once he does.
Personally I am running a toxrill with a reanimate shapeshifter and control theme and I am having a blast rn playing toxrill. I rarely win the same way with toxrill. The shapeshifter theme allows me to basically run my opponents win con. So I have won with toxrill using burn, token swarm and voltron.
Pair Toxrill with Necrosynthesis, keep some graveyard bounces and board wipes ready. Lots of Proliferate, and sac outlets to use those slugs.
My Toxrill has won me seven tournaments so far, and ive got enough wincons in the deck, that i dont have to worry much about not getting Tox out on the field.
I've got a few cards that let me sac my slugs to deal direct damage. Pair that with a token generation card that has 'whenever another creature dies, create *token*' and you get my #1 killer, the sac outlet death loop. Sac a slug, deal damage, because i sacked the slug, i get a 2/2 zombie, which i sac for direct damage, etc.
I'm playing Toxrill in MTGA, historic brawl. It cracks me UP when it straight up wipes the board.
I've been playing it in arena as well and it's been a pleasure messing with scute swarm players 😂😂
My favorite anti scute play is toralf+torbrane (and/or fiery for x3dmg)+any creature burn.
My lowest TCGPlayer market price is currently $2.19 for my Commander 2017 printing.
Maybe one day Mitch will be able to use you again.
My friend, you bow to no one.
They day after I purchased my deck build this video is released. Oh well I got most picks to match this though mine is a little different. One thing you might think of is replicating ring it's usually a pretty terrible card because of the time it takes to ultimate but with proliferate triggers we can ultimate it much faster than most people are prepared to deal with. Also the proliferate triggers allow us to add hidden Voltron synergy seeing as toxrill is already a 7/7 adding equipment and proliferate triggers means he can get massive very quickly giving him a second win con without taking away from the decks main build strategy. Westgate regent also does this very well with the proliferate triggers.
A really nice card thats pretty cheap that i think would do well is Diplomatic Immunity. It is an enchantment that has shroud and gives enchanted creature shroud. Its really good protection and because the deck focuses on Toxrill's ability and not targeting it, I think it would be a good addition. Its also fairly budget being only $1.00 on TCG player.
Interesting build. Most Toxrill decks seem to go more creature heavy.
Anyway, want a fun little combo? Run Urborg and a card called Kormus Bell.
Don’t do this If you like friends though
@@DarthJacobi or if you want to make friends. :p
Slug -> Urborg -> Bell
Wow, disgusting.
There's also a three drop enchantment called blanket of night that does that same as urborg and is dirt cheap
@@Werewolfoverlord12 I fucking love you man, love that card!
Gisa, meathook massacre, Revel in Riches, black market, massacre worm, and blood artist are great upgrades to Toxril. You're also in blue so any copy spells are also amazing.
I hope this deck gets a break the bank video as well!
It's also important to note that Sludge Monster makes those 1/1 Slugs into 2/2's if you don't have anything to target on your opponents field. It's not a huge power buff, but having 12 power on board instead of 6 is always a fun time!
Im so happy that you make videos on budget decks. Helps a student like me a lot.
And I thought my name was too big to fit on the driver's license! Respect
There is actually one more card that deals with Slime Counters and it was from OG Innistrad (Set), Gutter Grime
4G
Enchantment
Whenever a nontoken creature you control dies, put a slime counter on Gutter Grime, then create a green Ooze creature token with “This creature’s power and toughness are each equal to the number of slime counters on Gutter Grime.”
glad someone else caught that! i run gutter grime in a super jank Experiment Kraj ooze/slime tribal deck. doesn’t win often, but it’s a fun inside joke with my playgroup and helps a lot of slime and ooze cards shine for once.
Lol just built the deck yesterday. Thanks Mitch.
I thought about making this slug but decided against it for my friends’ sake.
I have almost finished mine because they better be ready
Does Toxrill die to salty players?
It's not a budget card, but Forbidden Orchard is an amusing tech in this deck. Give people spirits that will die almost immediately.
I would love to see a break the bank video for Toxrill the Corrosive. Please Mitch!
I've played my Toxrill (who I got the pre-release version of from a pack) in a few different groups and pods and never have I seen something or someone get targeted down as hard as I have with Toxrill. From zapping him a turn after he enters to spending big spells to destroy all my mana rocks. Gotta find a really good way to protect him.
There's always diplomatic immunity. It's a 2 drop blue enchantment that gives the creature shroud and has shroud itself.
@@Werewolfoverlord12 i regularly discover that even diplomatic immunity is vulnerable to bounce spells. I'm adding more counterspells to my Zur deck for this exact reason.
@@Mister_Tedious which is why i usually save my counter spells for board wipes and the like. Not saying its a perfect solution but its magic: there are none.
Well of course. Friends are temporarily, the Snail is *immortal* .😜
I actually made a deck around this guy as SOON as I saw him . My second fav commander all time.
Saw thumbnail, so havent watched totally.
Saw toxrill and asap wanted to build him, had tezzerits in my binder and realised proliferate is pretty strong to build into.
Think I got 9 or so proliferates in the deck.
Coming in clutch Mitch!!! was litterally waiting for this
Can't wait to see how you've built this Toxrill deck Mitch!
I've been brewing a "Toxic Treasure" with Toxrill and Revel in Riches leading the way. Has been a very entertaining way to win and if they do take out Tox you got plenty of treasure to cash in to pull him back out.
You got a decklist for this? Sounds sick.
I wanna say thank you to the patreons finally the video I been waiting for
Looking forward to a break the bank version
I know we all seen this deck and wanted to make it but remembered that we have friends who also want to play magic 😥
Exactly. It is so oppressive. It brings me back to my Urza deck... turn 1 winter orb w turn 2 Urza meant I was the only one playing magic...
@@cstaie85 That's why it costs 7 mana. It is super good when it hits the field but it takes a while, even with ramp (not dimirs specialty). Opponents can see it coming a mile away as well and save some removal for it. Commander tax gets harsh fast too.
@@seanmahoney2671 agreed. However some decks suck against this and run little removal. The sheer oppressive nature is devastating. But man is it effective. It's like an upgraded Elesh Norn
Your friends can play next game… :)
@@Civera89 Wow bro. Dick move.
I’ve built this deck as an aristocratic control deck and it’s just so dumb; it’s amazing how hard games can spiral out of control with your commander out
I just built a deck for this commander. I used an Infect/proliferate theme. Surprisingly, many of the infect cards are very inexpensive.
Toxrill is just so obscenely powerful, it's crazy. It's just board wipe after board wipe with just one card. I'm genuinely surprised it's only 12 bucks of something.
Each new set has a new 7 drop bomb legendary. This one is awesome but you WILL be targeted.
I would remove a bunch of proliferate/win more cards from this build for additionnal counterspells and things to protect him. He's gonna have a HUGE target on his back...
Well with the amount of salt he makes, it only makes sense the opponents would use it against him
Pulled an alt art Toxrill in our Vow draft, looks like I might need to build this deck. Great job!
Oh wow! I literally pulled Troxrill the Corrosive out of a set booster a couple hours after this video came out! What are the odds?
It arrived, now sleeving and have fun 🔥
It triggers on end steps, not upkeeps😉
perfect carseat headrest reference
I think that Gisa, Glorious Resurrector would take a Toxrill deck to the next level! At least that’s my opinion.
yesssss! for only $2
I've been playing a monoblack toxrill standard brawl/commander deck on arena for the last two month with almost 90%win rate. It's just everything in black that creates treasure(e.g. paladin or port merchant), early removal (e.g. bloodchief thirst) and a few other value-heavy cards like prof. onyx and Westgate vampire v fun.
What about this upgrades a little les budget lier, disciple of drowned, hullbreaker horror, quasiduplicate, grave betrayal what do you think 🤔
Only other card so far in Magic that cares about Slime Counters is Gutter Grime - a green enchantment that wants to have slime counters on itself. Outside of the color, and would need to animate the enchantment. Really big hoops to jump through.
It bothers me you didn't read the card properly...
The main effect happens at END STEP not UPKEEP as you stated multiple times.
I'm surprised he didn't mention consuming aberration, that thing would get huge quick
another fun card to go in, massacre girl known killer, cuz hello, every one of your creatures has wither, so you deal damage in -1/-1 counters, so if your opponents block a slug or you block with one, well thats even closer to another slug for you
There is one other card that effects slime counters but it puts them on itself to increase strength so not vary relevant. Just thought I'd point it out
Great video! Will you do a deck for umbris too?
I hope he does I just started building Umbris and I'd like to see his ideas for it.
I understand it’s a budget version. You can make this very very nasty by using some more powerful stuff like Sword of Truth and Justice, Innexorable Tide, Contagion Engine. As well as increasing the power of the mana rocks with stuff like Mana Vault and Grim Monolith. Lots of potential here for a mean deck
Willbreaker could be fun here with counterspells and auras and targeted such likes the exchange control spells and abilities. Not so budget friendly but not too bad either
Big fan of inexorable tide and flux channeler in my brawl deck
Oh Boy, I loved this slug the day I saw it. Can't wait to see how you made him broken
Lovely. Been looking for something to do with toxril and sludge monster. this would not be fun to play against for sure. Though I'm tempted to put them in Muldrotha with Umbris too to ramp, cast, and recast
Will there be a break the bank for tox
At each end step
Would you consider building a spirit tribal deck around Kykar wind's grave now that we have a bunch of new spirits from the last 2 sets. I think if I were to build it I'd try to create as many 1/1 spirit tokens as I can, get etb effects off of cards like impact tremors or perpheros, sac outlets that deal damage like goblin bombardment, and anything else along those lines. Could be interesting
I’m new to commander. I thought the only cards allowed in your deck were the ones that share the same mana color as your commander? Why are there blue cards in his recommendations when Toxrill is only black?
Don't worry it's an easy thing to overlook, if a Legendary has another color in its textbox like like Toxrill's ability at the bottom, it costs included a blue mana. Therefore it has a blue snd black manabase
@@finnmchugh99 that makes a lot more sense haha. Thanks for pointing that out!
I'm in love with this deck
ive been waiting for this for soooo long
I just stuck toxrill into my Atraxa infect deck…
11:32 Did you know that "Crowded Banner" is now a card?
If you're willing to go outside the budget, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is an amazing choice.
Just realized that if you read the card first turn -1 -1 second -2 -2 then -4 -4 then -8 -8
This was a great deck tech. I would power it up a bit, but this is perfect for a budget version.
how? - im a new player, and am not very familiar with a ton of cards
@@crowryan2790 I'd add a few black and blue staples: Toxic Deluge, Rhystic Study, Cyclonic Rift, Fierce Guardianship, and the new Meathook Massacre.
I'd also upgrade the mana base with a fetchland, a Ravnica dual, Shipwreck Marsh, and Darkslick Shores.
Also, I might upgrade the rocks a bit. Dimir Signet, Firemind Vessel, etc.
what about the basic land ratio? how many black and nlue lands should i play with this list?
Have to say that I personally prefer this card in the 99 of Umbris Fear Manifest 🤔👀
Is this a Car Seat Headrest reference?! ✨🤩
Are Hunted Phantasm and Infernal Genesis too expensive for the deck? They are MUSTS!
Thanks for this.
Break the bank!
Break the bank!
I think that with toxrill you just put a lot of protection and counter spells.Cast your commander and wait till your oponents lose. The majority od this cards looks Like overkill.
I am halfway building my toxrill deck, so I'm pretty curious to see your take on it.
(I bet the golden pig is clone of the spark)
Less than 1$ per card? There goes my prediction...
Question cause the wording on the slug is confusing. Say 2 creatures with slime counters die at the same time. Would you get 1 slug token or 2?
you create 2 slugs if 2 creatures with slime die
... every single END STEP Mitch 😑🤣
I'm building this...
What to buy playmat but it keeps asking for passcode?
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Kormus Bell and then drop Toxrill.
can we see an upgraded toxrill deck?
Hey is there a commanders discord to meet some people ? 😅 I'm starting out and would like to play on MTGO 😁
While far from a budget option, I took a double take when looking at Yawgmoth's card, and wondered if he happened to establish the original Phyrexia with the help of a giant toxic slug.
Yawg Will?
@@philsimmer Oh sorry, I meant his creature card, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
Isnt the rule for this format your commander is the only color you can use when making the deck? So how are we to use blue if the boss is a black card?
He has a blue ability which makes his identity blue/black
How are using non black cards with a mono black commander?
How long is the brigadier general teir brand new?? Like over 2 yeard
I would love to see this on Close Quarters
Question: how does this deck deal with enemy creatures/agression when the slug is not on the board and no counters in hand? I am new to commander and I am browsing your videos for a potential deck build. Golos looks very fun but also expensive.
Also will this get a "reasonably upgraded" treatment?
Golos got banned this year
@@Greenlover1717 Shame. He looks super fun to play, just spin the wheel or roll the dice. Dice are weighted and the wheel is rigged in your favour because you built the deck so I understand the ban...
I know mana base rules MTG and makes deckbuilding unbearable and unhealthy but over the time I acquired some good Orzhov lands so maybe I just look for an Orzhov commander...
Nice I build a dino commander deck my first deck, and a fyn deathouch infect.
11:31 anyone else catch that?
I've been looking for a good Toxrill list on the cheap so thank you! Now to add Urborg and Kormus Bell for some mass sluggy land destruction.
your sad
PERFECT!!!
Just pulled it in a prerelease Pack
Cant you only play with your commander color? Im new to the commander game
I just got a Toxrill in a booster yesterday and had no idea it could be this powerful. I’m new to the game.
(just a tip, don't buy boosters if you are new to magic. invest in individual cards or collector boosters if you want to collect. when you open boosters you gambling and will most likely only get a dollar back if you spend 3-5 bucks on a pack.)
Play this in close quarters!
Toxrill does not activate on upkeep
I hope this is the deck that finally destroys Eddie. Eddie is a diabolical genius in EDH/Commander.
i'm new to Commander so im confused. I thought the rule for Commander was that your Commander's colors decide what color the rest of your deck is?
If so how can he use Sludge Monster, which is a Blue? Toxrill is Black only.
Toxrills slug sacrificing ability requires a black and a blue mana. So technically, because he has the blue and black mana symbol on him, toxril is black and blue
@@Werewolfoverlord12 huh. very interesting. Didn't realize that technicality
@@ArgoDevilian same on chatterfang, his cost is green, his activation is black.
@@thrasherftw no idea who that is
squirrel tribal, my favourite
Are we going to see a commander game with toxrill?
How can you play a blue card (sludge monster) in a mono black deck?
Toxrill have blue mana in the text
The sacrifice ability costs blue and black. the commanders color identity is equal to all colors that appear on the card. This includes CMC and activated abilities.
Toxrill is killer!....
I so desperately want slime counters to become a thing.
*end step*
End step. Not upkeep.
How is this not an omega level 🤔
Funny that a lot of these cards are no longer under a dollar lol