Making a new trailer axle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2020
- Just new wheel bearings I thought - easy job, done lots of trailers before....
....not this time! Turned out it was cheaper to make up a complete new axle with new hubs, wheels & tyres!
Why?? I hear you shout! Well......you'll just have to watch the video!
Includes a step by step guide to making up a new axle.
Enjoy
Andy
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Neat to see a person working in metric, wow it makes so much more sense than Imperial here in the states. 40 years ago as a kid we learned metric because the US was to switch over to match the rest of the world, well we never did. Perfect example of our error was the Hubble mirror snafu, some of the telescope was done in Imperial and Metric, the result was a few million dollar oopsie and a few returns using the Space Shuttle. You'd think we would learn. Great video Andy
Thanks :-) Appreciate your feedback. I do really struggle with Imperial, taught the metric system only though sometimes I catch myself saying 'ah, a couple of foot long'....or 'that's about an inch...' cant help myself! Lol
I am just about to start and make a small trailer to tow broken mobility scooters. Your video has helped me a lot. Thank you
I’ve been a mechanic since the 80s and built many trailers and done similar repairs. Yet I still watched well done.
I bet the 80’s where Magical Times to live in !!!
@@josefastboats5874 I grew up then...it was magical lol
“I still watched” cus of the girls lol
Good Lord bearings are expensive in New Zealand!! You can get those bearings here in the states for around $75 for the pair, just a little more for new hubs with bearings included.
I have a 1970 home built trailer. Axle is pre BMC so older than 1950s. Have the great task of doing bearings and some welding and painting on it. It was built so well and I have been using it daily for over six years for my lawn and gardening business. I found your video very informative and interesting.
Excellent video very detailed, step-by-step detail explained very well thank you!
Subscribed love a straight shooter looking for the best for the customer and proud of the work they do. Great job
Love the videos. And the 2020 calendar over your left shoulder.
I really enjoyed your video! Wasn't even what I was looking for but but could not stop watching. I also have a couple of my wife's horse trailer axles she was previously told were bent. I am a retired architect and luv learning/teaching new things! You made this VERY understandable! Thank You. Hmmm? I have an old wood shop that needs cleaned up between feeden 'n teachen the Kiddies Ski'en. Just finished spliting black locust for the shop stove too! I love projects!
I’ve never seen your channel before but your intro really caught my attention. The girls are AMAZING!
Subscribed.
Thank you for this info. I need to do the same thing for my trailer
Love the repair not replace mantra. Awesome to see people extending the life of their purchases
That was great and if you don't have a lathe you can make a jig to hold everything in place. Thank you Andy I learnt something.
You just earned a new subscriber. I clicked on the video just because it looked interesting, but the amount of detail you put into the work made me want to sub.
I have a Harbor Freight trailer that I have been wanting to beef up and this axle video showed how easy it will be and how to take of the axle. So thank you.
You make it so completely simple. Thank you so much.
Very impressive Andy, so good to see anyone being attentive enough about doing the job right and thinking of the rest of the population that could be at risk from shoddy work. No fears with your projects on the road. Thank You
Hoka Hey
With this pandemic we have time enough to learn something new, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for the feedback Arnold :-)
Here in the States, the axle is given a counter arc for when there's a load on it to keep the wheels flat to the road.
I've found that brake cleaner spray is a good insecticide for wasps. Can reach from one side of the truck to the other and not get stung.
Thanks for the video.
That Förch calendar at your shop is awesome
Really enjoyed watching this video, I have been doing up trailers for years. I would have done the spring mount a little different. I would have welded a plate on rather than drilling into the axle. But all told an excellent job.
I had no intention of watching this whole video... but every time i wanted to fast forward... there was a bit of useful information and tips. Great content, Future me thanks you for all this information!
Tucson, Arizona USA subbed and liked. Now I have some binge watching to do. Thanks and stay safe🍺👍😷
I wasn't looking to make a trailer axle, but this video was pretty cool! Great work!
In Australia, this type of axle seal is called a marine seal, used mostly on boat trailers. They are designed so you can put a grease nipple (Zerk fitting) on the grease cap and fill the hub and bearings with grease. I build a lot of trailers and my preferred seal even for conventional trailers.
Ah.....great info, very helpful. I didn't know it had a specific name. I can now pass this info on to other viewers that ask. Really appreciate your feedback. Cheers Andy
I would say spot on! Job well done!
Spot on
This is a GREAT video for someone making their own axle....no bullshit or foolishness just TO THE POINT...WELL DONE.
Cheers Mark, appreciate your feedback. Thanks Andy
You did a smart and excellent job. Really enjoyed that. Thanks for solving all the problems and issues to observe before fabricating the finished axle.
The outer race is an SAF Holland race. Still in business. They make trailer axles. Maybe bearing was replaced at some point but race wasn't?
THANK YOU DETAIL VIDEO
FROM OZ
Awesome video Andy. Very informative..
Hi Andy. Watching this video, when you made a comment about someone welded the plate to the axle. I own a horse trailer which has a similar setup as that axle and the plate welded to the axle and bolts sandwiching the springs. Many years ago I removed that plate and replaced it with u bolts. Some of the older trailer companies said in the 1970's this is how axles were made.
Hey man, great Job, thinking of building one, will let you know how it goes. Love your work. Thanks.
New sub, Andy! Once I saw the intro, I knew I'd get some info about good lubrication practices and ensuring a proper fit! What a great group of helpers you're training!
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Just found your channel and joined. Great stuff.
Seeing the pin up girl in the background at the end was worth the video by itself! Nice axle.. I will be buying a factory made one and bolting it on. Now I need to find a pin up girl poster. bwuahahahaaa
Great information and great video👍
You do fine work Cheers from Jacksonville Florida
Very informative very detail-oriented one of the best how to videos I've watched bravo
Grand job Andy, I'm doing my trailer axle at moment. Steve, Nottingham.
Cheers Steve, have fun :-)
Hey Andy ,Nice Job ,I was looking for trailer axle videos and found your's ,glad I did ,thanks from Canada >
Many thanks for the feedback Yves, I'm pleased you found it helpful. Good Luck with your project. Cheers Andy
I've found that small wasp nests can be dealt with quite quickly with a can of brake cleaner...... Especially if, two or three seconds into spraying you introduce a lit Zippo into the equation. :D
Lol
Well loading this up to my workshop tv n better get started,Pokeno NZ....a beer first....for confidence 😁
Good Luck :-)
1:17:10 the standard unit of all measurements in the universe. Great video!
A fine job -- the trailer is now ready for service for many years
Very helpful video for a lot of applications. Thank you for sharing.
If you can get PB blaster over there you need to try it it's really good stuff.
What a great job, great video. I enjoyed it very much. Cheers.
Thanks Brian :-)
Very excellent video. Glad you didn’t put a lot of fluff and stuff very good one of the better ones I’ve ever seen. I’m doing this job on a trailer I got and I’m just gonna cut the axles in half and re-tube them.
Thank you for your time👍👌✌️🤙🏻😁
The way ive seen to do axle is fit stubs in. The tube keeps them straight. Tack the end push the stub against one side. Check alignment and bend the axle to correct.
Enjoyed the video! Great video and watched it entirely :)
Good job!
Mate didn't even skip a second and watched it right to the end
nice job, merry 2020!
Cool, thanks for the video
Excellent well detailed video my friend. Your accent, phrases, and mannerisms are remarkably more closely English and American than Australian. I was very surprised by them.
Ah...that's because I'm English, from Yorkshire. Moved to New Zealand in 2009.
Pleased you enjoyed the video.
All the best. Andy
Total price 😊 cheers…
I love that clamp. Wow
lol! never seen this guy...20 seconds in and this guy knows how to sell it!
Put a drill handle on that battery drill and less chance of sprained wrists. Plus drill at eg waist level so more positive push against the large drill bit.Can use square washers with hole punched to avoid drilliing keeper holes in axle tube as well.
Excellent !
Spring is in the air!
ugh....what a pain.... gotta love Tractor Supply Co in the states. complete 3500lb trailer axle 5 lug $219usd.
Great job
Brake Clean will kill the wasps even faster. I would like to make myself a trailer, but I lack the proper welding equipment to do it unfortunately. Most seals I have seen here in the U.S. are driven into the hub and not slid on the axle like the one you did. You have to be careful bending the cotter pin over the top like that. Make sure to flatten them down all the way. I have seen the cotter pins touch the cap and tear it apart.
Like your work Andy new to your channel love garage repairs myself ,used to race superstocks here in nelson , cheers, shaneo nelson, nz
Cheers Shane, thanks for the great feedback - it's good to know the videos are helpful.
I have never really raced but do get to meet lots of very talented riders with my day job
Cheers for now
Andy
love all your helpers
Good job. Thanks. i only got worried when you were drilling the axle and you did not secure the axle on a bench vice to avoid injury. all in all im happy with your workmanship. i worried the drill might twist the axle.
Nice job andy ..
hahaha...always a pain in the ass putting the cap....had the same problem...
Use old race --thin edge to the new race and drive it in --always works and no damage to new race
Cheers from ,Tassie..
Good job most trailer axles have a small amount of camber in it. Some time you can just put a weld in the center of the axle and heat shrink it. Cheers
Thanks you did a great job 🎉
I’m planning o make one also thanks for sharing your video
Good Video Excellent set up
New sub from Swansea, UK! Nice vid. 👍🏻
To get the stubs concentric with the square axle tube put some rod in each inside corner, they only need to be in a few cm then weld over them.
Yes you will need to work out what dia they need to be, if your lucky it might be a common size rod if not you have a lathe!
Subscribed :)
For centering/squaring I can picture 2 tapped holes on each flat face of square tube. 2 bolts like a set screw to adjust in/out for a total of 8 around tube. Measure length of bolts protruding and center the spindle inside. Snug down bolts. Weld then remove bolts 1 by 1 and add more welds in hole
Excellent explanation
I subscribed as soon as the babes started rolling through before I even saw if this video was going to be of any use to me at all 🤷♂️
New subscriber from the home City of Timken Bearing USA.
This is the kind of video that made me subscribe to your channel a couple of years ago. Great content - back to form. Not sure you need the TG’s to get views when you have content like this! 👍🏼
alignment can be achieved by using shims between the stub insu=ide the square tubing 3 sides only needed. do your weld and then side the shims out.
Great job Andy! Cheers from Cape Cod!
Thanks Brian, pleased you enjoyed it. Cheers Andy
Great detail on the build. Love the accent
Thanks Jeffrey
And does help quite a lot
Great video and good content
Good video. That was a very smart way to get the two stub axles to line up together.I am as much as a perfectionist as I can be with the resources I have and I was wondering how you were going to get them exact. Also, years and years ago while working on a vessel, another engineer said to me the same thing, that welding doesn't sound right. By coincidence, that guy now lives in NZ.
Cheers, yep, I like to do the best job I can with what I have available. Time taken really doesn't come. E in to it - I just work a longer day. Job satisfaction is important to me.
I'm sure the Mig will come right when the 200 Amp supply is finished :-)
Cheers for now
Andy
Andy, great channel. I'm a auto parts guy in the States. The LM11749/11710 is still common here. Timkin # Set 1 or BCA # A1. The others are usually sold separately. Like I saw someone else post, just older imperical measurements.
Thanks Ed, yes, it seems like the bearing guy here that priced it all up didn't really do a very good job & price was crazy high!
Pleased you enjoy the channel - livestream on Sunday 8.30am NZ time :-)
And it maybe more about availability on your side of the globe...lol
Welder earth clamp try a magnetic one. The mig sound in the other video sounded like you where getting out of short circuit and into globular.
For centering/squaring I can picture 2 tapped holes on each flat face of square tube. 2 bolts like a set screw to adjust in/out for a total of 8 around tube. Measure length of bolts protruding and center the spindle inside. Snug down bolts. Weld then remove bolts 1 by 1 and add more welds in hole.
In case anyone is wondering, the Drill Doctor does actually work well and quickly for sharpening these bits.
MrMotofy: I replaced an early Ford dropped I-beam axle for a trailer I bought in '72, although it was still in very good condition I decided to replace the beam and everything else with a new square tube axle, etc., since my Wife bought a new Harley Trike after we paid off our mortgage a few years ago and wanted to carry it in style when we go out of State to visit my daughters.
I like your idea about securing the square shaft against the inside of the tube, since I've done this as well, but after drilling the shaft on the top and the aft end of the tube, I thread the spindle and then weld it in place after making sure it is as Square as it can be and then run a light weld around all four bolts to ensure they never come loose, ( 2 on the top and 2 on the back wall of the axle since this is where the spindle will be pressed-up against due to rearward pressure exerted against the spindle and doneard pressure against it as well which results in the spindle resting against the inside top wall of the axle.
This way there will never be any problems with the spindle working it's way out of alignment.
Tip. Use shims . Thin plates. . U can drill all holes on small bit fist all of them and than all with the large bit. Saves time. I like that u do a great job.
Thanks, great tip. Cheers Andy
Aha, you've struck the same problem I have with the trailer I built 50 years ago. The Timken 1997X/1922 and LM 11949/11910 are imperial sizes and from Ford Zephyr and Consul 1956 onwards, so I'm sure these were Zephyr hubs and stubs welded on. Off the shelf trailer units weren't available in NZ back then, so we had to use car components from the scrapyard. I did think of making up a whole new axle as you did, but my axle is a 3 inch drop using the Mk 1 Zephyr bolt on stubs, which were very popular for kiwi trailers back in the day. The LM 11949/11910 are easy to find and not expensive, and I watched ebay UK for a few months until I picked up a couple of NOS 1997X/1922 combos that had been sitting in workshops for years for about £20 plus a few pounds postage each. They are available new but as you found, horrendously expensive. You certainly did the right thing for your customer. You certainly couldn't spend a few months solving the problem fairly cheaply as I did.
Thanks Brian, awesome info, I'm sure some of the viewers will be grateful for your knowledge. Yes, I do believe I did the right thing for the customer although they were not particularly happy with the cost in the end even though it probably worked out a bit cheaper & a far better setup. You cant win them all!
Cheers Andy
You have the old axel so I always place parts side by side, mark them and save all the measuring and lost time, as long as spring holes are the same ans the machined area for the seals are there you have it made.
The rims & hubs are of a different spec too (different off-set on the rims) & measurements had to be bang on or tyres would have protruded beyond the wheel arches. I had to take all the measurements before I could cut the box section axles down to the required length first.
Cheers Andy
You obviously take a lot of pride in your work! Great job, new axle looks like it was factory made!
impressive :) nice work!
Thanks :-)
I have always preferred my stub to have a tight fit in the hole, hell I've even been known to flip it over and shove it in the other hole. I have found sometimes I have to push really hard to get it in but a little patience and persistence will usually get it in there. I'm not sure why but sometimes it helps if I stick a finger or two in there before insertion. The most important thing is to make sure that both holes are very clean before I stick anything in them.
Lmao! Awesome! :-)
same with building an axle i guess lol
Use a wedge to force the round spindle up and back into the inside corner of the tube. Then use the same corner on the other end.
Good idea :-) Cheers Andy
Sorprendently 😃😃
Strange we dont have an MOT or any test for trailers in the UK
Hi Andy I do a bit of welding still learning my brother in law is a professional welder he also said my welder does’t sound right , I was tig welding he checked my polarity was wrong with out gas my ground should be on + positive when not using gas and the clamp should be as close as possible to the work area , but I think it’s a more practic for me , l really enjoyed watchING THANKS AL.
Thanks Al, pleased you enjoyed the video & the tip on the polarity aspect. I always run gas, Argoshield universal to be accurate so it's not a polarity issue. I'm confident it's likely to be with the current power supply to the workshop - the new 200 Amp supply should be up & running in the next few weeks so I'll probably do a short video showing the improvement (hopefully there will be!)
Cheers for now Andy
23:23 Ooooh 'nasty mechanic', steel hammer on the end of bolt threads!
Haha! True! :-)
Thank