Lippert has had a lot of problems with frames cracking or breaking. I had the hanger brackets on my camper the frame had cracked over them. I had to weld plates to the frame that Lippert sells. I just made my own. Much cheaper that way.
My frame was still under warranty so it did cost me anything except time. My understanding was they were sending them free to anyone having this problem.
One of the reasons those broke (penetration etc aside) - the weld goes right to the end of the hanger. Supposed to stop about 1/4" from the end. Not supposed to weld across the ends either. I don't have access to the bulletin anymore, but it's out there.
@1:35 freeze frame. L O O K. 1. bad weld - why cheap chinese metal frame glued to braket shackle. 2, Bad weld - hard to do, but he needs to butterfly weld that- carry the puddly to chinese frame, 3. Bad Frame - 1/8" LOL that the thickness of a motorcycle trailer. 4. Look at that leaf springs, MASSIVE, the size of a rental trailer-. welded to a 1/8" chinese metal frame. Now look under a rental trailer that hooks to a 1/2 ton pick up, and youll see a massive thick frame that is rated to haul a tractor but not recommended for the wgt & bulk that RV frames are carrying. The frame should be about as thick a leaf is the spring as a rule of thumb, So the trailer leaf is bout 1/4'' inch spring steel, the shackle bracket is bout 3/16" and glued to a 1/8" frame WHAT COULD GO WRONG at 60 mph?
Looked like the original weld was a shitty job. No penetration. I would be Leary of the other welds on this trailer. The shackle brackets are one of the weakest links. The welders repair looked even worse. No penetration into the hangar. The weld looks like it is just lying on the surface. I don’t think I’d use him again
I would DEFINATLY put one or two lag bolts in there. I am gonna do mine when I get a chance. That weld is crap. That weld should be concave with puddling ripples in it, smooth, consistent with no breaks Its just a surface weld
The Amish dont make the frames. Lippert makes 90% of trailer frames. Its a separate company. The camper manufacturer buys the frames from Lippert, and build their campers on their frames. The Amish junk work is all in the box. The junk work on the frames, is a completely separate bunch of who cares kind of guys.
Everyone wants to blame Lippert for all the issues.Some are their fault but most are the fault of poor rig design from the rv manufacturer. Montana has a long history of poor frame design...decades long
@@Takingitslow Lippert makes the frames according to Keystones design specs. Keystone, as well as most RV manufacturers, are building their campers on anemic frames, intentionally to save on manufacturing costs, while selling their junk product for top dollar. The problem lies with BOTH companies. Lippert is spitting out terrible products, and Keystone isnt inspecting the quality of the frames they receive. ALL RV manufacturers need to investigated for the unsafe products they are pushing out onto the public. There are only a small number of manufacturers that are putting out a safe product, and they are seriously overpriced.
@@carllennen3520 no argument here. This portion of the frame was modified the year after my rig was built adding in the V wedge between the front and rear hangers.
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Lippert has had a lot of problems with frames cracking or breaking. I had the hanger brackets on my camper the frame had cracked over them. I had to weld plates to the frame that Lippert sells. I just made my own. Much cheaper that way.
My frame was still under warranty so it did cost me anything except time. My understanding was they were sending them free to anyone having this problem.
I would DEFINATLY put one or two lag bolts in there. I am gonna do mine when I get a chance.
That weld is crap
One of the reasons those broke (penetration etc aside) - the weld goes right to the end of the hanger. Supposed to stop about 1/4" from the end.
Not supposed to weld across the ends either. I don't have access to the bulletin anymore, but it's out there.
This one the penetration wasn't there. The weld was only on the surface.
@1:35 freeze frame. L O O K.
1. bad weld - why cheap chinese metal frame glued to braket shackle.
2, Bad weld - hard to do, but he needs to butterfly weld that- carry the puddly to chinese frame,
3. Bad Frame - 1/8" LOL that the thickness of a motorcycle trailer.
4. Look at that leaf springs, MASSIVE, the size of a rental trailer-. welded to a 1/8" chinese metal frame.
Now look under a rental trailer that hooks to a 1/2 ton pick up, and youll see a massive thick frame that is rated to haul a tractor but not recommended for the wgt & bulk that RV frames are carrying. The frame should be about as thick a leaf is the spring as a rule of thumb, So the trailer leaf is bout 1/4'' inch spring steel, the shackle bracket is bout 3/16" and glued to a 1/8" frame
WHAT COULD GO WRONG at 60 mph?
Shreveport Roads bent the axle on my toy hauler
Looked like the original weld was a shitty job. No penetration. I would be Leary of the other welds on this trailer. The shackle brackets are one of the weakest links. The welders repair looked even worse. No penetration into the hangar. The weld looks like it is just lying on the surface. I don’t think I’d use him again
I would DEFINATLY put one or two lag bolts in there. I am gonna do mine when I get a chance.
That weld is crap. That weld should be concave with puddling ripples in it, smooth, consistent with no breaks
Its just a surface weld
That was a pretty crap factory welding job
That’s what happens when the Amish get their 12 year old kids welding shit together!
The Amish dont make the frames.
Lippert makes 90% of trailer frames. Its a separate company.
The camper manufacturer buys the frames from Lippert, and build their campers on their frames.
The Amish junk work is all in the box. The junk work on the frames, is a completely separate bunch of who cares kind of guys.
Lippert should be investigated because they are having to many problems with Thier products before someone dies pulling these things
The rv manufacturer should be inspecting before building on the frame.
And purchasers should be looking at what they are buying.
Everyone wants to blame Lippert for all the issues.Some are their fault but most are the fault of poor rig design from the rv manufacturer. Montana has a long history of poor frame design...decades long
More keystone garbage
The frame is assembled by Lipert and these frames are on many other RV manufacturers. They too are having problems.
And Keystone is ultimately the one to inspect all of their products before building a trailer.
@@Takingitslow Lippert makes the frames according to Keystones design specs. Keystone, as well as most RV manufacturers, are building their campers on anemic frames, intentionally to save on manufacturing costs, while selling their junk product for top dollar.
The problem lies with BOTH companies.
Lippert is spitting out terrible products, and Keystone isnt inspecting the quality of the frames they receive.
ALL RV manufacturers need to investigated for the unsafe products they are pushing out onto the public. There are only a small number of manufacturers that are putting out a safe product, and they are seriously overpriced.
@@carllennen3520 no argument here. This portion of the frame was modified the year after my rig was built adding in the V wedge between the front and rear hangers.