DCS: 6 Kills Ace in a Flight - Chinese J-11 Online PvP Action
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2019
- Please Consider supporting the Channel on Patreon:
/ growlingsidewinder
Join my Discord:
/ discord
Twitter: / growlingaim9
Facebook: / growlingaim9
Contact me:
GrowlingSidewinder@hotmail.com
My Specs:
HP OMEN 880-130 - Windows 10
Intel Core i7-8700K
2TB HDD / 1TB SSD
32GB DDR4 RAM
GTX 1080 Ti
Took the J-11 out again on my server and had a great the greatest flight I've ever had. The Chinese J-11 is one of my all time favorite red planes in DCS right next to the mig29. I got a new mic too, the sound had a small echo in the video I didn't know I didn't have it set up correctly. Anyway I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching and all your support. - เกม
If you are interested in trying out the server: It's called "Growling Sidewinder Open Conflict" and you can find it if you are running the open beta version of DCS. The server runs a mission that is a mix of Air to Air, Air to Ground, and also has a naval warfare component, where you have to attack the enemy's Cargo/Oil Tankers that are guarded by their Air force and Naval surface ships. Almost all planes are available in the mission and even has helicopters if you'd like to fly those. The server doesn't have any crazy rules or weapon restrictions, are you free to play how you wish. You can also join the discord (link in video description) and use the comms in the voice channel to talk to other players in the server OR you can use SRS Radio if you prefer that. The server also allows Tacview Exports so you can review your flights and learn from mistakes etc. The Server is funded by Patreon so if you like it, Please consider donating so we can continue to keep it up and running. Thanks for much for watching and for all your support guys. You are all the best.
Hi! Do you know how to enable open beta version? After last update i could choose from about 40 servers in Caucasus and now after 3 weeks or so about 15 are still visible. Never figured out what is the issue. Thank you for advice. BTW- this is one productive flight you have just performed!
igorkratka haha thank you. I'm not sure how to do it on steam but I know if u are using standalone DCS u need to actually download the open beta version. That being said I think if u lost a bunch of server on the list its more likely that you need to force update ur DCS as ur DCS is no longer up to date with the servers and that's why u can't see them.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Got it! Wasn`t that hard to do it after all, hehe.
Hey @Growling Sidewinder - Loved your tactics videos and I would love to go one on one with you if you are open to it.
Great is the server up 24/7 ?
Me, at 00:05: "There's no way I'm watching this whole thing."
Me, at 48:45: "Hmm."
Holy hell....this was totally me this morning!
I was looking over at the water in the F-18, talking over voice on Discord when he just screams, I quickly turn my head and he's no longer there, I literally shit my pants and dive towards the ground, thinking you're at least 15k away, as I didn't have any warning what-so-ever on my Data-link, then BOOM. I cried and raged quit.
ahah shit was that you thats awesome
@@GrowlingSidewinder I'm pretty sure it was me, the same thing happened to us when playing xD
Yes.. something is terribly off with the FA18C. You get zero warning and lose lock way too easy...
Can we get a status update on how the pants faired? How are the pants? Are they ok or were they shat beyond a point that the dry cleaner would even accept these pants.
where is this in the video?
Chinese fighting with an Americans in Georgia. Only in DCS.
Leo Lex very true
Try wargame you can fight Israel as Finland in North Korea
wrg
Well with the new Chinese silk road it might not be that crazy.
it's a chinese su-27 anyway
I was in G-lock right after pulling that cork screw. woke up looking at the ground
adam seekell lol are u the dude who slammed into the ground there?
Yeah I noticed you were staying at a weird attitude until the last second when you leveled out and tried to pull up.
I mean you pulled 15 gs haha
It's GLOC (G-force induced loss of consciousness), not G-lock.
@Samsung243 I didn't invent that acronym.
Professional calmness and exceptional SA. Your videos are a pleasure to watch. Thank You
much appreciated thank you very much
no such thing as professional or calm or not about it or px, feel any no matter what and any be perfect
Man, your videos are just so awesome. Short and not annoying intro. No shitty music.
Superb image quality, and your comments make everything so much better.
This is my new relax thing now. When I get home from work, just take a shower, get my vape and start to appreciate your skills and knowledge.
Keep up with this awesome work!
ahah damn dude I appreciate that. Thank you. and thanks for taking the time to watch the videos, Much love brother and thanks for the support.
Same, except for the vape part. Your voice is also quite soothing. If you wanted, I bet you could get a side gig as an audiobook reader or one of those meditation app personalities.
Hey that Turbine Engine has an awaome beat lol
You need to do an airstrike on an Indian phone scammer call center.
fuckin lmao. I fuckin wish dude, I've wished many times actually.
I hear that they get over $2Bil/ year from scamming, a loaded B2 is justified.
I had no idea it was that bad. I'm 100% in favor of dealing with that problem once and for all.
Technically, the FCC should be taking care of it. Personally, I believe that Gov. officials are making money by selling out the freedoms of Americans that they were elected to protect, Scammers are getting their numbers from some place, and they aren't random. Most American's seem to have a spirit about them that refuses to accept anything that you tell them, just as long as it isn't the truth.
didnt know scammers were a race of people. Learn something new everyday.
"Over G, Over G" your crew chief probably hates you
What does Over G do to the aircraft? Messed up flight surfaces?
Eric Heng It means pulling too many G forces I really don’t know what it actually does to the plane I assume it puts a lot of stress on the airframe
Better than getting shot down I'd say :P
The airplane can pull many Gs. The warning is intended for the pilots G's capability to handle it.
@@eric97909 crew chiefs have to do really in depth inspections depending on the category of the Over-G most jets once you break 9.5Gs you gotta pull surface panels and check fuel lines and frame components mouting hardware on heavy components, and even the engine inspection post flight changes, it can cause N1 and N2 shafts to flex and the compressor blades can scrape the fan case. Most of the time the jets are fine but I've seen some fuel lines ripped apart under the flex of the frame, and some particularly thin bolts literally stretched out and appeared loose, and then the usual dropped panels and such
Nicely done. The PLAAF is proud of you.
PLAAF F16's and JF17's have attached toilet option is what I have heard as the pilots often scream and pee in the mid flight.
People on the ground run for their lives whenever they see PLAAF jets on air just to save themselves from getting drenched by loads of shits ehhh ewww!
@@vichu2160 I don't think the PLAAF has F-16s. Remember, the seller is America. I think you mean J-16.
@AK Bhardawaj Yeah, you're correct. However, the J-11 is version of the Su-27, not the two Su-30 variants you compared it to. Su-30 is much more expensive, since it has a tandem cockpit and extra payload hardpoints, plus that canard.
@@vichu2160 yeah that's why jf17 thunder shot down a mig21 bison and f16 shot down a Indian su30mki. OUR PAF shot down two Indian jets mig21 bison and su30mki and indian military in confusion of battle shot down their own mi171 helicopter by their own surface to air Israeli missile. Such an unprofessional military.
@@vichu2160 remember kargil war when our military shot down a mig 21 and mig 27 .our Ground forces shot down mig21 and mig27 in kargil war and arrested wing commander nachakita
I love the tactical analysis you did at the end of the video. Great job!
Wonderful vid. Yes, you're an ace with 5 kills. You do Sun Tzu (Art of War) good. I never flew on DCS but you give a good taste for it. It definitely looks like the closest Sim to the real thing - being furthest away from simple arcade. You use strategies in radar coverage, range, relative altitude and whether it's On of Off. It's clever how you've lost him in the valleys. Very instructive. Please keep this up and we want more from you!
I've never played this game; wouldn't even know where to acquire it, but always found your videos entertaining, especially with the TAC view after the battle.
well thank you for checking out the videos I appreciate it very much. glad you like what you see.
Someone likes the J-11.
fav red plane at the moment
@@GrowlingSidewinder Su 27 Flanker on steroids
And Remenber, this sim (DCS) its in fact an improved version of one of the old famous sim, Flanker 2.0 by Eagle Dynamics from the 90's, so all the flights models are infact based on this old flight model from the begining...
Flanker 1.0 then 2.0, Lockon Modern Air Combat then Flaming Cliff and now DCS :)
And still to this day its defineltly one of the best flight models i ever seen with Falcon 4.0, IL2 (and its conterparts family like War Thunder and so on...) CFS2 by Microsoft, and the last one F22 from DiD, late 90"s ..
I really love the Tac View. I think it is the best part of the vid.
!You are one of the best DCS youtube producers on line! Enjoy your videos. Thanks
thanks so much brother, I appreciate the support.
Thanks for gaming in your server yesterday GrowingSidewinder and clan, i got punished, but it was great fun, will be back on in the very near future. GS thanks for the talk and walk though on getting the harm's working for f18c, appreciate it
my pleasure buddy, look forward to seeing you again soon. glad u had fun brother.
Great video... I'm usually good at describing things but now I only came up with this: You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
I'm a great fan of aviation since my early days, and combat aircraft's in general. Found DCS some years ago and couldn't play in my PC. I'm a lover of aircraft engineering and air combat sensors and general avionics, and your videos are my current relief from Netflix (:
Keep up this astonishing work! o7
I REALLY like your new intro. Haven't watched the rest of the video yet but looking forward to it, your videos are super informative and fun!
thanks ranger dan. really appreciate that support. glad you liked the new intro I thought it was time for an upgrade lol
I’m gonna have to say that you and grim reaper are my fav dcs youtubers and I very much appreciate your vids and your work. I always look forward for new vids, keep up the great content.
Jeezuz man that was mighty smooth ass flying!
thanks buddy
I stumbled upon your videos a few days ago when i was watching some ww2 airplane stuff. These are entertaining videos to watch.
Thanks man glad you like what you see.
Really like your videos and I can see you have figured out the 2 secrets to being succesful....Number 1, you have excellent situational awareness...by using your displays you can read what is going on quite well...and number 2, your strongest talent......PATIENCE.....your willing to wait to get into a situation that is much more favorable for a kill...I think personally thats why a lot of people struggle..they dont have the patience to work at it to get a favorable shot and just want to dogfight and they end up getting killed instead. Fantastic video and I am slowly working through all of your videos...please keep doing what you are doing.
Great video. Many things to learn for me, like to hunt with infrared and on vertical scan mode to spot the position of the enemy and then switch to radar lock.
dot forget datalink
You have amazing skills and tactical thinking!
Good fight! Really demonstrates what an ace could be in an modern combat.
It’s like a horror movie, just picking them off one at a time
Also love how realistic this situation is.
Not only entertaining, but very educational.. Thank You!👍
Your TacView debrief... >Chef's Kiss
You know what I liked about this one, GS? You landed. I am so glad you left that in your vid. That is one of the primary things I worked on when learning any aircraft: can I start it up, take off, and land. THEN I start learning the navigation and weapons systems. When you said you were heading home, I was hoping you meant to land. Love it. I guess there are just so many that want to hop-n-go it seems.
Datalink, EO, HPRF, clutter...man, you sound like a professional and you certainly fly like one. Thank you for the excellent video!
Never played DCS but love these videos.
Amazing video! I really enjoyed this longer video so hopefully there's much more like it. Not yet sold on the new intro but it's not a bad choice; I think I just need more time to get used to it lol. I sort of stepped back from learning the more advanced airframes and took a traditional approach: trainers.
Impressive maneuver kills there.
Good video. I used it to understand the utter superiority that J11 and Flankers have in Blueflag. I have come to understand that people consider Datalink to be a massive advantage and this video helped showcase that. At least 2 of your kills had no idea you were even there. Being able to gain situational awareness and target without turning on your radar is great news. I realise that you did occasionally turn on your radar but it looks like most of the time you were nose cold. It does mean that fighting flankers is hard and trying to launch attacks on ground targets protected by a datalink equipped adversary is, well, hard to say the least. I find BlueFlag a little frustrating because of this but perhaps when the hornet gets datalink the balance will be a little closer. Keep up the good work and well done on those 6 kills.
thanks man, I agree datalink is a huge advantage there are ways to counter it tho, and simply knowing how to use ur radar goes a long way to warding off those EO bandits. as you will see them before they can sneak up on you. I agree tho its a huge boost for them.
Yes ! Very good Day for you Buddy and well set up whit SU-27, bringing to your house. Thanks for excellent video.
haha thanks wesley u the man
Great job. A bit scary over the water facing so many Americans and surprised you didn't bug out sooner - but I guess that reflects not so much a ballys imprudence as it does a calm confidence. Also surprised with kill # 6 after he lost you - EVEN if he elects to not persue you, he should AT LEAST not remain on more or less the same heading that his target was last aware of! Very exciting mission. Thanks.
Love the Sound of the Fox 2, or AIM 9x Sidewinder when it ‘locks up’ a Bandit!
I just watched a video w/ great detail of the 2 Libyan Floggers back in 1983 over Gulf of ‘Death’ accdg to Gadaffi. I was in College when this happened. The video was over 30 min long, catching ALL comms during this “engagement”, not the 5 min. Version they have posted in past! The final Fight between the Wing man trying then successfully lock up the 2nd Flogger with his Fox-2 or Sidewinder or equivalent! Outstanding video!
(Gave me a Stiffy!)
ahah ya the gulf of sidra incident is an amazing clip. I use the comms in my videos regularly, my intro audio is actually from that incident.
Someone should make a Chinese telecom mode for this LOL 发现目标，方位洞俩洞……
check the auto-conversation between the pilot and the ATC
😂😂
这是国内的开发者做的？
发现敌军章甲切，发现敌人步兵。这个仗啊我们一定要打，不然我又要找另外人了。
@@kksan 快克！在你的照壁上！
LMAO. "He's not going to be able to pull out of that one." I imagine he was saying the exact same thing right about then.
🎶 You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. 🎵
Excellent content as usualy, starting to get the bug for DCS, doing research and trying to get comfortable using a right-hand stick (lefty). Sucks being left-handed sometimes.
5 Kills makes you an Ace and 6 in one sortie puts up there with Alex Vraciu. Nicely flown.
Fizwalker thanks very much man just a lucky run 😁
Pretty cool kills. Thumbs up to you!
Nice. Good flight great fight
Great video , may I ask what head tracking are you using to pan with your view, pov on stick is hard to deal.
Jeff Lucas Astrophotographer thanks man, I use trackir5 as my head tracker
Nicely done :) ACE
It's all about that training and experience 😎👍
I love the fact that you can hear the plane coming if it goes below the speed of sound and you can't if it goes above + sonic boom! Attention to detail, beautiful graphics, physics.. I mean.. Who the heck created this?!
At one point in my life. I wanna be as good as you are in this game.
That is really good stuff.
i love u man now time is 2 am and im still watch ur channel ur the best 😎😎😎🦅🦅🦅
ahah thanks buddy, get some sleep tho tmrw is a new day
Very interesting battle and intelligent commenting. I like it.
Just out of curiosity, after your first kill when you pull back into the mountain range, ideally would you have wanted to be lower than that or just at an even altitude with the top of the mountain?
If I were a betting man, and I am, I would guess that the gaggle of 3 include 3 of your kills respawning, out to get some payback.
I really appreciate the calm and rational decision - let 3 to 1 go and save the airframe.
The saying still stands, there are old pilots and bold pilots, but very few Old & Bold Pilots. Very nice flight.....Lessons learned again.
Just the simple comment, fighting US planes over water places you at a disadvantage is gold.
Learning to change scan areas, switch from EO to Radar and back will take a while, but at least I know to do it. Thanks Again - Fun Video and as always learned a lot.
Wow, actualy im not an airplane guy, but after watching this gameplay, id really enjoyed ur logical analysis by the end.. good stuff xD
Hey I love your PVPs, just been curious of what kinda joysticks are you using for DCS? Is there a way to get the J-11 for DCS 2.5?
Hope we enjoyed it?? It was a work of art. Just as an added bonus to your tack view try editing in some of the actual missles kills as they would happen in game view.
Who else here starts watching TacView then the game footage just to go "a-ha!" ?
The symbol on the datalink shows relative altitude. It is the length of the cross bar near the circle or "v". The longer the bar the higher the target.
The combination of The Datalink and EO are awesome. I wish the MIG-29 had Datalink. BTW -You never used the eye tracking lock-on system. Maybe, I rely on it too much.
I personally don't like it. I basically never use it.
Poland equipped Mig-29's with tablets - data link receivers.
It's basically land forces, air defense data link.
So, now Mig pilots can see, situation picture from surface air defense radars & surface early warning radars.
Great flying Ace! I'd like to see what the opposition sees and doesn't see of your whereabouts. Can Nato AWACS even see you with your radar turned off and flying 200 feet above the water or in the mountains? Fighters must be frustrated trying to track you and get a positive lock on.
depending on how high the awacs is, and how far, it can see me at any altitude, but in this situation both sides are using early warning radar, not AWACS so it forces you to use ur radar much more/better.
J-11A, not J-11B which has vastly upgraded electronics, domestic armaments (PL-12, PL-10), and domestic WS10 engines...
I've been watch your videos for a while. You are awesome. What type of computer do I need to play dcs? I have a ps4 but I dont think its available on console. Any help would be appreciated
do you use a HOTAS to play or controller? or mouse and keyboard?
Gorgeous game.
I actually grew up seeing these eagles glide over my city 👍🏻
I am new to DCS. I am becoming quite fond of this aircraft. If it wasn't for videos like this I would probably never have tried the j-11a (su-27).
You can I’d EO targets by turning the radar on for a few seconds then turning it off to IFF
Did I tell you that I love the J-11?. Good use of the technology G.S.! Great all round performance. Finished the TacView. Some of us just get lucky. Minimizing the luck aspect and maximizing the skill input like you is the way to go! Best, Pete.
thanks pete, much appreciated brother.
@@GrowlingSidewinder You're welcome. You deserve recognition. Pete.
i seriously thought you we're gonna crash from low altitude at 4:51, you we're about 15 feet off the ground going 1100mph but you corrected at the last second. lol good stuff.
thanks for sharing this exciting video with us! can you tell me how can i use the vertical mode like to find and lock the closed target suck quick like you did in this viieo?
lkyfly0047 lkyfly0047 my pleasure. U simply spam the lock button until it gets a lock lol.
Su-27 and it's series of fighters are soooo beautiful.
These videos are really cool I watched a lot of them did you fly fighters in the marines navy or air force you are really good at this and are good with all these air craft like a expert
"I'm just gonna call him... Dan" LOL
Nice job comrade !
Burning Star thanks mate
****HOLY CRAP....LONG READ ALERT BUT WARRANTED****
I know this is 2 years go but since I've been watching your uploads for the last few weeks, I decided to go back and just randomly pic an older vid. It was this one...LOL. I saw the time of almost an hour and was like....damn....and LOL'd again. I was like WTF. It's 7am and I'm recovering from spinal surgery (my 4th in 4 years 12 screws 3 fusions yadda yadda...LOL) and I'm trying to learn more about DCS but more about the community. I follow you, Growling, and the Grim Reapers.....so I personally think I'm getting some nice training but if anything.....GREAT entertainment!
I wasn't even lured in by your elusive "Yeah....right!" click bait title as I didn't even see it! But....I'm so EFFING glad I did sir! I learned so much about what the American fighters can and CAN'T do. By you flying the J-11, you actually gave me so many lessons and forced them, aka US fighters, to also "learn" me some things as well....haha. It was also very entertaining.....even more than Iron Eagle II! That's a joke as some may take it as an insult once looking up it's IMDB score (spoiler it's a 3.8 out of 10...not 5 lol) I was truly entertained by the actual dog fighting with commentary....I even caught myself doing some nail biting!
Then came the TacView. LOVE IT! Not much I can say about it other than that. It just truly shows how your tactics worked and how they got lured in and owned! You sir must have cashed a few checks because your body knew when hold them and when to fold them so you would be around to deposit some communist pay. LOL. See what I did there? Took a movie and a song (which was turned into a movie too so I guess I took TWO movies)....errr....took 2 movies and made them relatable to your crazy ass awesome 6 FREAKING KILLS ace of a day!
Thank you for all that you do for DCS fans....new and old....and TH-cam, as I know these vids take some time to edit.
I'm unable to work since I can barely walk, but as soon as I can get a few dollars, I want a T-SHIRT sooooo baddddd!
They look so good! OK OK......I'll stop rambling on and if you're still reading this.....God Bless you and thank you!
What are your GFX settings. They look more crisp than mine.
nice landing!
Damn, this video was intense !
I have few questions :
1/ What is EO, is it something different from the radar ? And is it sneaky, like your enemy doesn't know he's targeted ?
2/ What is TWS mode, and how to activate it ? I assume it's the same way as the Su-27, because the J-11 looks very similar.
Thanks in advance, I hope you will keep up your great work. You're a good teacher, really.
thanks a lot man, means a lot to me to hear that from you guys.
ok let me try and explain these best I can,
1/the EO is the "electro optical" system, it is the round thing u find right on top the nose in front of the cockpit on Russian planes. unlike the radar that tracks radar signatures the EO tracks heat signatures. Therefore it does not give an RWR warning to the plane that it is being scanned or that it is being locked up. Unlike the radar, which emits massive amount of radiation which tells the RWR that is it being locked up. and can then warn the pilot. the only draw back to the EO system is that it has a significantly reduced range when compared to the radar. So if you can lock someone up with EO and then fire a fox2 or heat seeking missile at them, they will have zero warning until it hits them. (or they visually see the launch)
2/ TWS mode is Track While Scan, so this mode does exactly what it sounds like, it TRACKS a target that you lock up but continues to scan for other targets, which can greatly help with situation awareness. the activation is the same as the Su-27 as you said I believe the default binding is "Ralt+i" I dont remember cuz I have it bound to my HOTAS. in contrast to the TWS mode we have RWS which is range while scan, this mode allows you to lock a target and I believe provides more info on the target but does not track other things happening in front which leads to u essentially being blind until you unlock the target. so its a matter of knowing when to use each mode as each provides its own advantage.
These concepts are obvs a lot more complicated than just what I said, but its really all I can explain in text without doing a video on it which I might down the road. I hope those helped answer some aspects of your questions.
Thanks again for the compliment man I appreciate it very much.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thank you for your response, really it helps me a lot !
Greetings from France, Sidewinder !
@@vincent4862 my pleasure brother.
@@GrowlingSidewinder "best I can"
LOL try harder next time, would ya? ;-)
Compelling watch. Looking forward for you to fly the Dassault Rafale.
havn't played DCS for a while, is this J11 just a reskinned su-27 or there are some actual differences?
TheAlexfrom1 only real major difference is it's ability to carry fox3 or the R77 missile. The in game su27 can't do that.
- 19:00 J-11 has an IFF system, why not use it to identify the target? When in EO mode, pressing the radar button turns on the IFF (but be careful, if you switch EO off without turning the IFF off, the IFF mode switches into a proper radar mode, meaning enemies' RWR will detect you)
- Also, "HI" radar pulse frequency has nothing to do with target's altitude, but with target's aspect - "HI" provides better detection of hot targets, while "MED" gives you better detection of cold targets. Both offer a slighly increased range (maybe 25%) over the "ILV" mode (which combines the two). The altitude only depends on where you point your radar.
When you were trying to identify whether that aircraft that took off from friendly airfield was friendly, why did you not use the old quick radar on radar off trick to confirm? Looking forward to going on the open beta to come on this server when I come home from uni!
at the time of recording I didnt know turning the radar on for a second doesnt send out an RWR blip, and I didnt want to give my position away
Where and when do you stream? I would love to watch you live.
thanks a lot buddy, I dont steam tho. maybe somewhere down the road.
nice to see some shenkhoi in action
25:45 "Cause then I know 100% he is committed to me" haha
Sounds like GS is insecure >:D
context is important!
lold.
19:40 "YOUR FREE TRIAL OF LIVING WAS EXTENDED"
The level on the server increased a lot know people now tactics and it's really good really challenging
Allright, allright. New sub.
I'm addicted to your videos I don't fly planes I don't even play video games there's something wrong with me
Hi i play lockon, i want to know how much speed is right for dogfight of su27, su33 and F15?
Growler is a badass!
Yeah, that was cool!
You pulled a modern day Chuck Yaeger. Ace in a day
This is so good, how do I get this good..been playing for month now, but cant quite get the hang of it..sometime manage to get kills but mostly it was me who get kill..
Ace Combat? oh just Ace.
41:00 That seems like GLOC to me, though I could be mistaken. Probably the most impressive I've ever seen, if it is.
Your wonderfull amazing stpategic! I like end obonements! 🤗
The J-11 being a Chinese-built variation of the Su-27, would the avionics interface really still be in Russian? Or have the devs just not had time yet to introduce a proper Chinese "Bitching Betty"?
Yep. It should've been in Chinese for the pilot to understand.
The J-11A is simply a russian Su-27, broken down in many parts (as a kit) and assembled in China. The J-11B on the other hand is a chinese version, with chinese avionics and engines.
J-11A is just Su-27SK. The first batch were assembled using Russian parts directly. The second batch were pure Chinese parts, which reportedly disappointed the Russians a lot as they were expecting a new parts order.
Ozsharpener yeah they stole the design...
@@ozsharpener Russian actually gave Chinese the blueprints and authorised them to build their flankers, since the CCCP just fall apart and Russia need money.