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That crispness on half life 2 though. Feels like we might reach "indistinguishable from reality" VR graphics sooner than thought possible not too long ago. Half the reason I try and keep healthy is to live long enough to see it tbh
video games will never be indistinguishable from reality for at least for another 20 years. maybe 50. there's more to making a realistic image than just having high pixels and textures
@@lievre460 There was a time a bunch of people were ticked into thinking Red Dead TWO screen shots were pictures from real life. I think we're already there mate. At least somewhat. Give it like 10 heck even that's too much
@@waffleten9750 yes, thats a screenshot. Like i said theres more to making something look realistic than just resolution and textures. Everything changes when it needs to actually be in motion. I also cant believe anyone that actually plays video games would look at a RDR2 screenshot and cant tell that its not real life with that low res ground covering and lods. games still have a long way to go in terms of basically everything involving humans and lighting. And environmental animations. And waiting for PC hardware to get the point where you can basically render a CGI movie in real time
I had this same reaction to play old games when I got the 77” Lg C1 for the living room and decided to plug my Razer blade and try out old steam games.
Ive never bothered with 4k when it came out years ago. It did not seem like a big jump from HD but now this 8k may well be worth getting in the future.
As someone who has a high end pc that can run 4k at high refresh, there are times when it can make a huge difference, you can in essence see things that are twice as far away.
@@Acedemonlord not about looking at things far away I just didnt like the way it looked. Whats the point of seeing things far away if it doesnt look good. maybe because it was early in 4k adoption but it was not impressive but now with graphics catching up to the display in games such as forza 5 then I think it will be worth it
@@clark85 some games, like hell let loose, or battlefield being able to see at a grater distance makes a huge difference the problem is, when 4k came out only dual cards could handle it now single cards can, however 1440p gives you a good compromise between the both fps and increased res
@@Acedemonlord yes yes Ive played battlefield of course and 2042 is horrible i hope youre not counting that game but thats beside the point. I played tons of fps games I dont need 4k not now and especially if I dont like the way it looks. When all games look like forza I will be much happier with it.
Well, a considerable drop in frame rate going from 4k to 8k is not exactly surprising. Most people misunderstand and think that 8k is simply double the pixels of 4k, but it's not (as you mentioned earlier). So you essentially have about 16x as much data that must be processed in 8k mode versus 1080p and about 4x as much as data to be processed over 4k mode (1080p is about 2MP, 4k is about 8MP, and 8k is about 33MP if you put this into megapixel terms). The other thing is that GTA V was likely not written with 8k displays at the time (most likely for 1080p and 4k) so the video card most likely has to do some extra work "upscaling" the game to 8k at the same time. The size of GTA V and the amount of AI (over other games, like Counter Strike) is also probably quite high, even though GTA V is about 7 years old now. At the time, it was a pretty large and demanding game (and depending on who you ask, it may still be).
a trick to make some apps look normal scaling. right click> properties> compatibility> Change High DPI settings>check Override High DPI scaling Behaviour> enhanced!
I'm no expert. And seeing it go to less than 200 FPS at the first resolution made me horrified over how low it would go later. I've seen some GPU tests get over 400 FPS. Another thing to test the capability is to set a fixed frames per second. Having it dynamic costs performance so keeping it steady could help performance a good bit more. Maybe. I wonder how indie pixel games with stunning colors and beautiful lighting effects would look on this screen. Terraria could look amazing.
I think the problem this card having in 8k comes from the fact that it only has 4 pci-e lanes. Like hdmi 2.1 has 6 GB/s bandwidth and pci-e 4.0 x4 has only 8 GB/s so just the textures must be taking at least half of that bandwidth.
I've been taking my pc away from my desk and monitor recently to see if I can run 4k. My gpu is a 6600xt. The results have been surprisingly good. Project cars paired with my trusty g27 wheel, will run fine with full settings. The biggest surprise was god of war with fsr 2.0 on quality settings. With original to high settings, I'm getting a solid 60fps. I honestly can't tell the difference between native 4k and the upscaled 1440p, which fsr 2.0 quality uses. Looks like I'll be doing this more often. It works!
It’s still a mediocre TV outside the resolution. Rather put a 3090Ti to a LG C2 OLED and enjoy the better picture quality in every way other than resolution. And even those cards won’t do much without DLSS/FSR 2.0 in the newest titles.
@@voodfernichterofficial4745 Yep, the framebuffer itself in 8K resolution can use almost the whole 4GB VRAM so there is no memory left for textures, shaders etc. Half-Life 2 and probably other older games could still hold good performance, because they are using so little VRAM it could actually fit all data without using the RAM for textures.
Look into config file changes for Half Life 2 to help melt that 3090 Ti as well, the game will look even more amazing with massively increased render distance and no lod model used
How many Alienware/Dell PCs David has buy a this point? Also Ana is her editor so this is just a busness tax write off for them. Plus every tv/PC is a new free toy for Anna.
And he's so quick with the advertisement too. Its here, and then its gone. It never out stays its welcome. *this comment is brought to you by Raid Shadow Legend and Ridge Wallet.
@@raven4k998 It's really incredible how shit the lower end was last year. 3050 was just embarrassing, and AMD near scammed with a laptop GPU the 6500XT while nVidia was selling directly to miners. It was such a shitshow. Meanwhile the 3060 is a bad card for the price, even at MSRP. It can't even best a 5700XT, AMD's last gen midrange, and costs about as much at retail even without scalping, otherwise known as stagnation. 3070ti performed worse than a 6800 and cost more. 6500XT needing PCIe 4.0 or it'd be even more of a failson than it already was. 6400 just cost too much, otherwise it'd be "fine." And then we have the abomination of a GTX 1630 for the most outrageous price to cost I've seen nVidia pull yet, and this gen was plagued by driver issues and other problems afaik. I mean, to be fair getting the TV or monitor is going to cost more than the card, so
@@pandemicneetbux2110 well since they were selling to miners oh well I mean seriously when you know the miners are going to buy those gpu's upo anyways might as well scam them with those cards
@Raven4K I mean who though? GTX 1630 was literally a scam for gamers. Or more specifically, a piece of crap to stick in the "high end" model of Amazon "gaming PCs" rather than the "midrange gaming PC" with a GT710 and a light strip glued to it. So I think it depends on the model. I mean, they're a soulless, bloodsucking corpo, so of course they'll make every criminal cent they think they can get away with if they think the fines will be cheaper than the profits. It's just that some are so horrible value it astonishes me that anyone even still charges that kind of money, let alone buys them. The 3050 @ $380 USD was just astonishing to me. It's not even a miner's card. It's *not even a good time to mine* and yet newegg was selling it for that, when the RX 6600 was $280. This is partly why I ended up making fun of gamers, when I realized they're all sincerely idiots and not just children. The GTX 1630 is a $70 card and the 3050 is a $170 card and that's being generous. Considering the 980 was $550 not even that long ago, I'm in my right to nail nVidia to the wall without restraint for this when we can clearly see the skeezy shit they've not only pulled now but been pulling the longest time. Trying to bull channels into emphasizing RT while they're selling to miners with already bad products by gaming standards was just the icing on top. What's saddening and ridiculous to me is that somehow these guys got cucked so hard by nVidia into thinking their products are worth something like that, when the sole reason nVidia sold so well this gen is because Ampere was a better mining card--which btw using that logic is why RX 5700XTs sold for $1,000 USD but would you be willing to pay that much for a last gen midrange AMD? Of course not. So I wish they'd get it through their heads how horrendous a scam for bad hardware nVidia has been at this point for many years now, because it's always been nVidia trying to push the overton window as far as possible on normalizing new car tier prices for a midrange GPU and only are going to stop getting away with it when you refuse to pay for it. That's part of why I switched to AMD last gen and have been laughing ever since, from the bad drivers and POSCAP issues to 3090s setting themselves on fire on and on, while my non-SLI Taichi model only rose in price to the point where it cost considerably more than a 2070s despite being a cheaper card at MSRP with mindblowingly better software. I thought a LOT how glad I was to have listened to reviewers and thought analytically and logically rather than emotionally. I would've bought a EVGA 2070s but went AMD instead and got a 1tb Sabrent Rocket boot drive with the savings in 2020. I'd have done nothing but regretted buying nVidia, as usual, even used. And yes I mined with it averaging $5/day with $10/day at certain points, so I effectively got that card for free. And no, I never cared whatsoever about DLSS it literally wasn't even a checkmark to me, and mainly wanted 2070s because the 2070 didn't have SLI. So to give the picture, as a gamer I cared more about SLI than raytracing in 2020. I just wish people would realize by now the sole reason Ampere cost more wasn't because of RT but because of the mining and simping for a logo (and a plastic backplate with no LEDs on an 8gb card srsly wtf nVidia?) Like had I not bought my card then in 2020, I'd be considering an AMD card now just because how bad the prices are in the States for nVidia and it'd be more power efficient and smoother too. I'm so irritated by the aforementioned issues coupled with what I now know about Lovelace it's unlikely I'm going to switch back and get a 4070ti. Probly a 7800XT or 7700XT, unless by some miracle Jensen lowers prices dramatically so I can include the 1000w PSU in my budget and AMD fucks something up spectacularly at the same time (the latter far more possible than former). I mean you can't even use the RTX feature set on a 3050 Jesus Christ why are you people buying it
The RX6400 surprises me every so often too. I installed mine into an Optiplex to make an adorable little bebbeh gaming PC, but then my main PC died and I didn't feel like pulling my 1440p monitor out. It ACTUALLY pushed it with decent settings. 30FPS was not the most enjoyable experience I've ever had gaming, but at least the input lag was sane, which meant it was a very playable 30FPS. Also I love your epic music every time you mention "8K".
I would have never guessed that the RX 6400 would do so well at 8K!! Makes me think I need a better monitor for my 6700XT. LMAO!! Thanks for another awesomesauce video Anna and Dawid. (Come on we know Anna is the star and Dawid just does the heavy lifting in the background. ;)
i just went from 1440p 27" to 4k 28" and that was amazing, it sure make everything great :) 8k tv at a bit of distance is just next level stuff....... do not think tv's need that resolution unless you go to 100" size. we need pixel size just small enough at viewing distance appropriate for the display. that can be measured in ppi and add the viewing distance. i got 157 ppi at 28" away.
that's legitimately one of the problems with adoption of raytracing, we got REALLY good at faking it with rasterization that the overall visual differences aren't as stark as you might hope. that said, as good as HL2's water reflections are, they still have some of the really severe caveats that raster reflections have e.g. disappearing when the reflected object is off screen.
G'day Dawid & Anna, I got a LG 55" C1 4K for Xmas 2020 & bought an RCA to HDMI Adapter to connect my PS2 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, Like Anna said it is amazing how Life Size everything becomes on a Tv this size, I have not bothered to check whether the output is 480i(NTSC) and 576i(PAL) but because the PS2 Doesn't have upscaling like PS3 & PS4 when I play Buzz Jr. Jungle Party with my niece & nephews it is HUGE! 😂
Am I the only one who got annoyed seeing that beautiful, $1500 8K TV shipping with a cheap plastic remote that looks like one of those universal remotes that cost $3 and you buy because you're desperate after losing the official one.
Damn RX 6400 is not that bad... but for that money there are better options, mostly used. CS GO may not be able to run at 8K, Half Life looks amazing in 8K.
1:37 Anna:" I'm not sure, but I think this shouldn't be exposed to babies. " Narrator: And this is exactly why you are unboxing this TV, while David was safely shoved into cradle.
I secured one of these when they came out and it's absolutely amazing, just don't expect it to run everything maxed out. But: it's almost dead silent, it doesnt need a power cable and has low consumption and is also really small, compared to the huge bricks GPUs got until today. I'm building a super flat desktop case right now out of aluminium and a flex atx psu and cant wait to put it in my desk, with this card in it.
Lllliiiinooooooode! 😅 It feels soooo goood!..... I may have contacted their advertising and marketing team and said "Please sir can I have some more Dawid" like a little orphan child.
Having used TV as screen for last 7 years or so, i'll never forget getting my first 40 inch 1080 HD tv to use as a screen for my laptop. It was like a whole new GPU. And when that cheap brand TV died and i went to a 43 inch Sony 4k TV .. was like night and day again. (make sure you get a high refresh rate panel as a large number of 4k tv will only do 60Hz)
So, here you are with a low-end GPU running with crazy-high framerates at 8K in old games like Half-Life and Portal, yet they just released an RTX version of Portal that brings my 6800XT to its knees (9 fps) with all their special, in-game ray-tracing settings at the very lowest they'll go on my 3440x1440 monitor.
The babies on the protective cover are not there to tell you to protect babies from the wrapping material. They're there to tell you to protect the TV from children, who will make it their life's work to break your new TV, and then blame it on the baby.
I thought it meant you had to choose between having an awesome 8K tv or having a child... Since children aren't compatible with my hardware and don't push any pixels at all. I'll take the tv.
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Not gonna lie. That’s pretty… Awesome
Oh what... So who did I just send all my uncle's Bitcoin to?
Imagine saying suss in 2022
@@egg-ts4fo Imagine having no subscribers in 2022 😬
@@egg-ts4fo yeah that would be pretty suss
5:26 - this is the carnage we’re here to see 🤣
as soon as u said "back by popular demand" I literally just went "linooode"
That crispness on half life 2 though. Feels like we might reach "indistinguishable from reality" VR graphics sooner than thought possible not too long ago. Half the reason I try and keep healthy is to live long enough to see it tbh
Me too but then resident evil 11 or whatever in VR will probably kill us both off :D
video games will never be indistinguishable from reality for at least for another 20 years. maybe 50. there's more to making a realistic image than just having high pixels and textures
@@lievre460 There was a time a bunch of people were ticked into thinking Red Dead TWO screen shots were pictures from real life. I think we're already there mate. At least somewhat.
Give it like 10 heck even that's too much
@@waffleten9750 yes, thats a screenshot. Like i said theres more to making something look realistic than just resolution and textures. Everything changes when it needs to actually be in motion.
I also cant believe anyone that actually plays video games would look at a RDR2 screenshot and cant tell that its not real life with that low res ground covering and lods.
games still have a long way to go in terms of basically everything involving humans and lighting. And environmental animations. And waiting for PC hardware to get the point where you can basically render a CGI movie in real time
Although not indistinguishable from reality, Half-Life 2 actually plays quite nicely in VR
I had this same reaction to play old games when I got the 77” Lg C1 for the living room and decided to plug my Razer blade and try out old steam games.
Ive never bothered with 4k when it came out years ago. It did not seem like a big jump from HD but now this 8k may well be worth getting in the future.
As someone who has a high end pc that can run 4k at high refresh, there are times when it can make a huge difference, you can in essence see things that are twice as far away.
@@Acedemonlord not about looking at things far away I just didnt like the way it looked. Whats the point of seeing things far away if it doesnt look good. maybe because it was early in 4k adoption but it was not impressive but now with graphics catching up to the display in games such as forza 5 then I think it will be worth it
@@clark85 some games, like hell let loose, or battlefield being able to see at a grater distance makes a huge difference the problem is, when 4k came out only dual cards could handle it now single cards can, however 1440p gives you a good compromise between the both fps and increased res
@@Acedemonlord yes yes Ive played battlefield of course and 2042 is horrible i hope youre not counting that game but thats beside the point. I played tons of fps games I dont need 4k not now and especially if I dont like the way it looks. When all games look like forza I will be much happier with it.
Well, a considerable drop in frame rate going from 4k to 8k is not exactly surprising. Most people misunderstand and think that 8k is simply double the pixels of 4k, but it's not (as you mentioned earlier). So you essentially have about 16x as much data that must be processed in 8k mode versus 1080p and about 4x as much as data to be processed over 4k mode (1080p is about 2MP, 4k is about 8MP, and 8k is about 33MP if you put this into megapixel terms). The other thing is that GTA V was likely not written with 8k displays at the time (most likely for 1080p and 4k) so the video card most likely has to do some extra work "upscaling" the game to 8k at the same time. The size of GTA V and the amount of AI (over other games, like Counter Strike) is also probably quite high, even though GTA V is about 7 years old now. At the time, it was a pretty large and demanding game (and depending on who you ask, it may still be).
I think it’s safe to say the channel is Dawid Does Tech Stuff powered by Linode
the fact that the tv was more expensive then the graphics card itself😢
a trick to make some apps look normal scaling. right click> properties> compatibility> Change High DPI settings>check Override High DPI scaling Behaviour> enhanced!
You can get an LG 55NANO966PA 55” 8K for £799 in the UK, CRAZY
8k is so powerful that even the BSOD is confused
I gave an extra like based on how you pronounced LINODE!!!
I kind of wish I had some use for their product.
The only add read I don't skip through
I really wish you tried RSR from 4k to 8k.
So... Ana was impressed by size of your... TV. Nice.
I'm no expert. And seeing it go to less than 200 FPS at the first resolution made me horrified over how low it would go later. I've seen some GPU tests get over 400 FPS.
Another thing to test the capability is to set a fixed frames per second. Having it dynamic costs performance so keeping it steady could help performance a good bit more. Maybe.
I wonder how indie pixel games with stunning colors and beautiful lighting effects would look on this screen. Terraria could look amazing.
hmm idea using fsr to run other content in 8k
That made me smile.... Less serious, more "what CAN we get away with" ^^
I think the problem this card having in 8k comes from the fact that it only has 4 pci-e lanes. Like hdmi 2.1 has 6 GB/s bandwidth and pci-e 4.0 x4 has only 8 GB/s so just the textures must be taking at least half of that bandwidth.
"Size matters" - Anna
Finally, I can watch my 0.1 KD in 8k
Old games, fuck yeah!
You underestimate the tenacity of Chihuahuas.
I've been taking my pc away from my desk and monitor recently to see if I can run 4k. My gpu is a 6600xt. The results have been surprisingly good. Project cars paired with my trusty g27 wheel, will run fine with full settings. The biggest surprise was god of war with fsr 2.0 on quality settings. With original to high settings, I'm getting a solid 60fps. I honestly can't tell the difference between native 4k and the upscaled 1440p, which fsr 2.0 quality uses. Looks like I'll be doing this more often. It works!
A 8gig card would be med for a reasonable performance scaling, maybe 6
if only the 6400 and 6500 had video encoding and at minimum 6 or 8gb VRam...
I'm actually surprised how reasonably priced that 8K TV was
1500$ is reasonable?
@@matthewjessey12 Here in Australia 8k TVs start at about $3000 upto about $10,000.
@@matthewjessey12 for 8k yes.
@@matthewjessey12 For a 8k, thin, huge ass TV, yes that's reasonable
My first 40" TV was on sale for $1200. Granted this was 2006ish.
"We're here to PUNISH a little behbeh graphics card with it" lmao
I wanna see you bring both the 3090 Ti and the RX6950XT to this behemoth of a panel and see which one negates an fatal hernia first
I see the 3090TI winning that one
@@johnwilliams615 Yeah it better should for being almost double the cost.
It’s still a mediocre TV outside the resolution. Rather put a 3090Ti to a LG C2 OLED and enjoy the better picture quality in every way other than resolution. And even those cards won’t do much without DLSS/FSR 2.0 in the newest titles.
No matter how powerful the gpu cores themselves are the 3090 ti is always gonna win with an extra 8 gigs of vram
I've got a 3090 and 8K still kicks its ass
There is something hilarious to me about a massive 8K monitor having "Nano" in its name.
Nano to Galactus, maybe.
Reminds me of the old cartoons where there'd be a gigantic thug gangster...named Tiny
Them pixels are probably nano size
@@r3n846 this is what i was thinking.
its probably because its super thin
I'm guessing it's too do with nano particles that make the colors brighter
Hearing Dawid say "Linooooode" makes my day. I want this in a ringtone.
You should change your ring tone to Dawid saying that :-)
@@Christian_Johansson my mind is blown
Still won't top my "Hey Duggee - Stick rave" ring tone dude.
paid comment
"Back by popular demand"
It probably could get better performance if only this GPU had more VRAM because at that point it's using RAM as the graphics memory
I think thats the cause why GTA V ran at like 1-4 fps instead of 20 ish fps
@@voodfernichterofficial4745 Yep, the framebuffer itself in 8K resolution can use almost the whole 4GB VRAM so there is no memory left for textures, shaders etc. Half-Life 2 and probably other older games could still hold good performance, because they are using so little VRAM it could actually fit all data without using the RAM for textures.
I would have liked to see Dawid use FSR to see how much performance he would get out of this card too.
@@lievre460 Oh yeah, I should have given that a try.
U could F with the bios
Look into config file changes for Half Life 2 to help melt that 3090 Ti as well, the game will look even more amazing with massively increased render distance and no lod model used
Can't forget the 6950xt as well
That is a great suggestion. I’ll check that out for that video. 👍
@@manspeej its worse than 3090ti so waste of time
@@ilovehotdogs125790 ok and?
@@manspeej so it's more interesting to bring the MOST powerful card to its knees. Not the 4th most powerful card.
I don't know what Linode is but I signed up because I like explosions!
Haha 😂
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How to get an 8k t.v that will pay for itself and be a tax write off at the same time.
If an RX 6400 can perform that well, I don't wanna hear nobody with a better gpu complain about their frame rate 😂
with my RX 6800XT i am quite happy.
I once tested a 750 ti against my friends dual monitor 4k setup, it died
I'm surprised how many times did David manage to convince Anna to this kinda thing
How many Alienware/Dell PCs David has buy a this point? Also Ana is her editor so this is just a busness tax write off for them. Plus every tv/PC is a new free toy for Anna.
@@goa141no6 you guys know it’s Dawid, not David right?
@@TheMeanJoeGreen How does he pronounce his name?
@@oneblacksun Dah-wid
@@TheMeanJoeGreen In my language Dawid sound fairly dumb (like if a child say's it) so i rather say/write David.
Personally I was kind of blown away with the performance of HE LIE 2, really makes you wonder what the future of gaming will hold.
Just say "Today's episode is sponsored by, LINOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!!!" and I will be satisfied, no need for that 1 minute sponsor section 😏
Holy damn, Dawid is getting a lot of mileage from that stock explosion clip :D
You know it 🤣
Like an artist with their favorite brush.
@@AnnaDoes oh my goodness, that's a response I would never expect 😉
Funnily enough, it was a present from my brother. Money well spent on his end. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff talk about a gift that keeps on giving :D
I love the way you introduce your sponsor
Better than linus
I skip it everytime
David has probably one of the best Sponsor introduction on the internet.
And he's so quick with the advertisement too. Its here, and then its gone. It never out stays its welcome.
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That 4x bsod error screen with additional artifacting was hilarious.
dude bluescreened 4 times in a single crash... they should make this into a sport, see how many times you can bluescreeen in a single crash. :D
I love how hard it is to put a finger to Dawid's exact accent but Anna's is so distinct
2:44 "16 times the detail" ~Todd
Entertaining from start to finish. Who knew the RX 6400 had such a great story to tell?
imagine the power of an rx 6500 if the 6400 can do 8k the 6500 going to do 16k with ease🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 It's really incredible how shit the lower end was last year. 3050 was just embarrassing, and AMD near scammed with a laptop GPU the 6500XT while nVidia was selling directly to miners. It was such a shitshow. Meanwhile the 3060 is a bad card for the price, even at MSRP. It can't even best a 5700XT, AMD's last gen midrange, and costs about as much at retail even without scalping, otherwise known as stagnation. 3070ti performed worse than a 6800 and cost more. 6500XT needing PCIe 4.0 or it'd be even more of a failson than it already was. 6400 just cost too much, otherwise it'd be "fine." And then we have the abomination of a GTX 1630 for the most outrageous price to cost I've seen nVidia pull yet, and this gen was plagued by driver issues and other problems afaik.
I mean, to be fair getting the TV or monitor is going to cost more than the card, so
@@pandemicneetbux2110 well since they were selling to miners oh well I mean seriously when you know the miners are going to buy those gpu's upo anyways might as well scam them with those cards
@Raven4K I mean who though? GTX 1630 was literally a scam for gamers. Or more specifically, a piece of crap to stick in the "high end" model of Amazon "gaming PCs" rather than the "midrange gaming PC" with a GT710 and a light strip glued to it.
So I think it depends on the model. I mean, they're a soulless, bloodsucking corpo, so of course they'll make every criminal cent they think they can get away with if they think the fines will be cheaper than the profits. It's just that some are so horrible value it astonishes me that anyone even still charges that kind of money, let alone buys them. The 3050 @ $380 USD was just astonishing to me. It's not even a miner's card. It's *not even a good time to mine* and yet newegg was selling it for that, when the RX 6600 was $280. This is partly why I ended up making fun of gamers, when I realized they're all sincerely idiots and not just children. The GTX 1630 is a $70 card and the 3050 is a $170 card and that's being generous. Considering the 980 was $550 not even that long ago, I'm in my right to nail nVidia to the wall without restraint for this when we can clearly see the skeezy shit they've not only pulled now but been pulling the longest time. Trying to bull channels into emphasizing RT while they're selling to miners with already bad products by gaming standards was just the icing on top. What's saddening and ridiculous to me is that somehow these guys got cucked so hard by nVidia into thinking their products are worth something like that, when the sole reason nVidia sold so well this gen is because Ampere was a better mining card--which btw using that logic is why RX 5700XTs sold for $1,000 USD but would you be willing to pay that much for a last gen midrange AMD? Of course not. So I wish they'd get it through their heads how horrendous a scam for bad hardware nVidia has been at this point for many years now, because it's always been nVidia trying to push the overton window as far as possible on normalizing new car tier prices for a midrange GPU and only are going to stop getting away with it when you refuse to pay for it.
That's part of why I switched to AMD last gen and have been laughing ever since, from the bad drivers and POSCAP issues to 3090s setting themselves on fire on and on, while my non-SLI Taichi model only rose in price to the point where it cost considerably more than a 2070s despite being a cheaper card at MSRP with mindblowingly better software. I thought a LOT how glad I was to have listened to reviewers and thought analytically and logically rather than emotionally. I would've bought a EVGA 2070s but went AMD instead and got a 1tb Sabrent Rocket boot drive with the savings in 2020. I'd have done nothing but regretted buying nVidia, as usual, even used. And yes I mined with it averaging $5/day with $10/day at certain points, so I effectively got that card for free. And no, I never cared whatsoever about DLSS it literally wasn't even a checkmark to me, and mainly wanted 2070s because the 2070 didn't have SLI. So to give the picture, as a gamer I cared more about SLI than raytracing in 2020.
I just wish people would realize by now the sole reason Ampere cost more wasn't because of RT but because of the mining and simping for a logo (and a plastic backplate with no LEDs on an 8gb card srsly wtf nVidia?) Like had I not bought my card then in 2020, I'd be considering an AMD card now just because how bad the prices are in the States for nVidia and it'd be more power efficient and smoother too. I'm so irritated by the aforementioned issues coupled with what I now know about Lovelace it's unlikely I'm going to switch back and get a 4070ti. Probly a 7800XT or 7700XT, unless by some miracle Jensen lowers prices dramatically so I can include the 1000w PSU in my budget and AMD fucks something up spectacularly at the same time (the latter far more possible than former). I mean you can't even use the RTX feature set on a 3050 Jesus Christ why are you people buying it
When the monitor costs more than the entire pc 💀
the 8k was so sharp that it actually showed how much detail is there even threw YT WOW
The results in those older games even on video were really impressive.
For sure! I was surprised how well the camera picked it up.
7:07 The graphics card got beat up so sad that it just had to give you 4 blue screens of death + a mental breakdown included
The RX6400 surprises me every so often too.
I installed mine into an Optiplex to make an adorable little bebbeh gaming PC, but then my main PC died and I didn't feel like pulling my 1440p monitor out.
It ACTUALLY pushed it with decent settings. 30FPS was not the most enjoyable experience I've ever had gaming, but at least the input lag was sane, which meant it was a very playable 30FPS.
Also I love your epic music every time you mention "8K".
This really makes me appreciate my RTX 2080 Super for how much it actually can do at high/max settings at 4k60+fps.
I thought the "super" type cards began with the 3000 series cards and upwards? o_.
We learned learned 2 things from this video: 8k is great for some old games.. AND Anna likes it BIG and lifelike.. 🤔😁
ey yo
Hahaha who doesn’t?
"HLE LE 2"
Wow, they actually made it 8K proof!
In the last 8K test he did, he said he couldn't get his hands on an 8K monitor because he's not Linus...
I love how Dawid is making all those noises of struggle while lifting the TV and Anna is just… getting on with it
Always love it when Dawid tortures low-end hardware to its knees
I would have never guessed that the RX 6400 would do so well at 8K!! Makes me think I need a better monitor for my 6700XT. LMAO!!
Thanks for another awesomesauce video Anna and Dawid. (Come on we know Anna is the star and Dawid just does the heavy lifting in the background. ;)
I am very glad Linode sponsorship is back, I was always disappointed when it wasn't the sponsor.
Loved this video.. You seemed so excited to see old games play at native 8k that might be a cool series of videos!
i just went from 1440p 27" to 4k 28" and that was amazing, it sure make everything great :)
8k tv at a bit of distance is just next level stuff....... do not think tv's need that resolution unless you go to 100" size.
we need pixel size just small enough at viewing distance appropriate for the display. that can be measured in ppi and add the viewing distance. i got 157 ppi at 28" away.
This is some serious preview to the potential of 8K gaming.
And it's on a budget!
interesting how 8k on half life 2 the water reflections look just as good as ray traced reflection we have now from a game from 2003
source engine water don't fuck around it's legitimately so fuckin pretty
that's legitimately one of the problems with adoption of raytracing, we got REALLY good at faking it with rasterization that the overall visual differences aren't as stark as you might hope.
that said, as good as HL2's water reflections are, they still have some of the really severe caveats that raster reflections have e.g. disappearing when the reflected object is off screen.
G'day Dawid & Anna,
I got a LG 55" C1 4K for Xmas 2020 & bought an RCA to HDMI Adapter to connect my PS2 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, Like Anna said it is amazing how Life Size everything becomes on a Tv this size, I have not bothered to check whether the output is 480i(NTSC) and 576i(PAL) but because the PS2 Doesn't have upscaling like PS3 & PS4 when I play Buzz Jr. Jungle Party with my niece & nephews it is HUGE! 😂
Am I the only one who got annoyed seeing that beautiful, $1500 8K TV shipping with a cheap plastic remote that looks like one of those universal remotes that cost $3 and you buy because you're desperate after losing the official one.
Anna casually lifts the TV: *Silence*
Dawid: *Moaning*
Lmaooooo
That reminds me of playing games at the AMC movies theatre in 1990s
So if a panel is 60hz then even if my gpu pumps 134fps I'll only ever see 60 of them per second?
You would be correct in that assumption. You're better off capping your gpu output to whatever your monitor can display.
Can we just take a moment to talk about how good the thumbnail is? It’s the dead eyes look. 😂
We just bought a 4K tv for that price.
Also, how does it feel to be able to put an 8k TV on your business expenses?
Damn RX 6400 is not that bad... but for that money there are better options, mostly used. CS GO may not be able to run at 8K, Half Life looks amazing in 8K.
Dawid didn’t say linode had the funnest name to say this time, which makes me believe he found a brand with an even funner name to say
1:37 Anna:" I'm not sure, but I think this shouldn't be exposed to babies. "
Narrator: And this is exactly why you are unboxing this TV, while David was safely shoved into cradle.
That graphics card is still better than my GTX 960 2gig. I would totally want it lol.
I bag on this card a lot... but ETA Prime found it to be actually very good for emulation. Might be worth a try.
I secured one of these when they came out and it's absolutely amazing, just don't expect it to run everything maxed out. But: it's almost dead silent, it doesnt need a power cable and has low consumption and is also really small, compared to the huge bricks GPUs got until today.
I'm building a super flat desktop case right now out of aluminium and a flex atx psu and cant wait to put it in my desk, with this card in it.
@@xxxblackvenomxxx The question is... are you running it at PCIe Gen4?
On this channel, « 8K gaming » often means « one digit fps score » 🤣🤣🤣
...or a cute BSOD 🤣🤣
Still amazes me that HǼ LŒF 2 still looks that good & plays so well even after 20+ years
I was also very impressed. 😃
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Wish I could like this comment more, thank you for getting my dumb joke haha
Well said. Also, that is a very interesting way to type out the name.
Next up: 8K gaming vs a GT210
Lllliiiinooooooode! 😅 It feels soooo goood!..... I may have contacted their advertising and marketing team and said "Please sir can I have some more Dawid" like a little orphan child.
i think playing in 8k video was just excuse just to buy 65inch 8K tv ahahaah xD
Having used TV as screen for last 7 years or so, i'll never forget getting my first 40 inch 1080 HD tv to use as a screen for my laptop. It was like a whole new GPU. And when that cheap brand TV died and i went to a 43 inch Sony 4k TV .. was like night and day again.
(make sure you get a high refresh rate panel as a large number of 4k tv will only do 60Hz)
No one gonna talk about how Dawid swindled his way into using a video as a scapegoat to buy himself an 8k TV?
The man is a genius
I always look forward to Dawid's David and Goliath videos
Now try RSR on 8k with that RX 6400.. not that this cmt will ever be seen lul
The Casio watch comment got me 😂
The 8K fps drop was due to low bandwith and only 4GB vram :D
plz make another video with the 3090 ti using its full potential and make it suffer
So, here you are with a low-end GPU running with crazy-high framerates at 8K in old games like Half-Life and Portal, yet they just released an RTX version of Portal that brings my 6800XT to its knees (9 fps) with all their special, in-game ray-tracing settings at the very lowest they'll go on my 3440x1440 monitor.
They have to keep you upgrading to the next $1k card every 2 years lol.
I mean its probably better than a gt 1030.. right? ... RIGHT?
YAY! i thought linode left us :(
I'm so happy Linode is back you couldnt understand how happy I am
Literally crying tears of joy rn
LINNNOOOOOOOOODDDDDEEEEE 😂
BINOOOOOMO
i feel like anna did most of the work setting up the tv while dawid bieng stupid just helped XD
Hell yeah, old games in 8k episode would be awesome!
YES PLEASE
Love the TV unboxing music for sure lmfao!!!
The babies on the protective cover are not there to tell you to protect babies from the wrapping material. They're there to tell you to protect the TV from children, who will make it their life's work to break your new TV, and then blame it on the baby.
I thought it meant you had to choose between having an awesome 8K tv or having a child... Since children aren't compatible with my hardware and don't push any pixels at all. I'll take the tv.
@@JustIn-sr1xe cats are the same
ALL THE 8k
How many people thought Dawid was about to say Lenovo instead of Lenode
4:24 is it just me or does that Galaxy look like the chihuahua 🧐😱 next to it 😝
4 BSOD's in one image- an IT technician's worse nightmare