I guess they'll figure it's banned because in magic there is sword of the meek. It's almost the same combo as old school elma combo basically, it keeps returning to generate infinite resources.
Largely that's due to all of the concepts and strategies(as far as I've seen on any of these) that are present in yugi exist within magic. We just have to deal with a greater amount resource management. It's harder for yugi players to assess magic cards honestly
Mtg player here. There is a whole set of mechanical rules around preventing cheating in magic. Like searching for a card from your deck you must reveal it most times
his analysis of cards is insane for someone who first sees them, figured out all the details for psyframes and mekk knights really quick, even the "catch them if they are lazy" with the column micromanaging which happened quite a lot whenever mekk knights would come and go in and out of the meta.
I had a friend who played Mekk knights so I almost always tend to play around columns when I don't know the opposing deck, same goes for Relinquished Anima or Transverser, but in that case it was due to me playing both those cards fairly often in my decks.
I love how cards like gamma, mekk knights, imperm, and even gorz have basically permanently programmed yugioh players to play a certain way regardless of their actual presence
i think my favorite part of small world as a card is its so open ended that we as a community have created a website to be a "small world" game where you get two random cards (the first card and the last) & have to find the small world target in the middle.
"Pot of Greed is Ancestral Recall but for 0 mana, and you get 2 cards instead of 3" That's a really good description, I can't think of a more concise way to explain that card
Why not "Pot of greed is divination but for 0 Mana". Recall not only draws a different amount of cards but also targets any player, PoG cant do that. Divination is literally the same text but with mana on the top right
Scapegoat was good in link format as well for a while, so much so that it was limited for a few formats. It had fantastic synergy with link spider and linkuriboh. Not to mention it was basically a free link 4 if activated during your opponents end phase
@@joshuahadams being able to use multiple copies a turn was also great to eat a battle phase and then activate another during end phase. Thanks old Konami card design! You're right though it was pretty slow
@@chrismiller3548 did he want to explain links to the new guy for essentially no reason other than, hey, this card was more used for this entirely different type of summoning that i have to explain, the reason he explained synchro was because next card was gamma, and it fit scapegoat
@@TheOneJameYT it seems a lot of magic players don't pick up on levels as quick and focus more on power. He did mention setting a 12/12. Maybe explaining the kind of power levels you can expect from certain level/tribute thresholds could help in the future? Though it did open up an interesting discussion... If you could guarantee your face down creatures wouldn't get flipped, could you just set whatever you want if there is no check stage after the game is over?
This is such a great improvement to the series, not that the previous episodes are bad but the flow of this one was just better. The way you introduced the guest to the mechanics of yugioh was soooooo much more succinct and engrossing.
It might be cool to do some sort of "find the cheat/cheese" episode, where you show or describe the idea behind a card/deck and see if they can guess how it cheeses or how you'd cheat while playing it. See if they can figure out the good ol' Infernity "set spell". Alternatively: Maybe show them a set of cards (like eight at once) and see if they can pick out the broken interactions from the red herrings, like Library + Bamboo Swords + Exodia, the Yata Lock combo, etc.
Notice that when he evaluated W Nebula Meteorite, he talked about the advantages of flipping all of the opponent's monsters facedown to blank them as the defining feature of the trap card. So if given a card to read like Book of Eclipse, he would most certainly say that that card is amazing. The only thing he didn't account for in this case was the fact that Trap cards are way too slow.
@@TheOneJameYT You should have told him how Infernity players would cheat by setting their monsters as S/T because they needed an empty hand, then immediately scooped when you use a S/T removal lmao
W Nebula isn't a bad card, it's just the archetype it's attached to. If Worms were broken, this card would be banned immediately, or when a light reptile deck can abuse it.
nebula will never be good again, it sucks and if a new wave of worms come out they probably wont run trap cards unless they are searchable through their combos.
I was about to say, W Nebula Meteorite is an incredible card that made the otherwise terrible Worm archetype playable back in the day. This is one of the worst cards to show someone because the card requires massive amounts of context (that Worms have effects activate when they are flipped up, that Worms are bad, that this is intended to work with Worms) and this card by itself is COMPLETELY INSANE even by today's standards. Lastly the summon effect of W Nebula Meteorite gets revealed to the opponent before it's set because of the rules of the game.
Right, from someone who doesn't know the archetype, I was like "can't you just special summon some relevant monsters in defense position (which, with lightning storm existing, you probably wanna do anyway), flip them all face down if they don't get outed (big if tbh but still), draw some AND get a free summon from the deck, then flip them face up? Maybe on the slow side (all of this is basically turn 3-4), but beyond that (like maybe back in the day?) seems really good
Yugioh has plenty of these cards, busted in a vacuum but trash with context. It's kinda unfair giving them in these cross-TCG format unless you forgo the idea of it being a bad or good card entirely and explain the circumstances around it
Scapegoat a pretty good card in the past is kind of an understatement. "Goat Format" was a thing. It was a meta defining card then banned for many many years, and then became good again in 2018 and hasnt seen play since
Great episode, Kess was absolutely spot on for most of the cards and I can't believe how he got Small World in like 10 seconds. One thing he kinda missed about the Mekk Knight is that while your opponent can play around it by positioning their cards, if you have a S/T in your hand you can set it and summon the Mekk Knight to the same column as their monster regardless. I would describe the YGO board like this: Both players has a 5x2 area, the top row (closer to their opponent) are the Monster zones, the "back row" is for playing sorceries, instants and traps. You have to physically put sorcery/instant on the board to activate them, which means if you have 5 cards in the back row you can't use another sorcery/instant. Most S/T are sent to the grave after they resolve, but those with the infinity symbol stays on the board instead, and usually has some effects you can use as long as they are still on the board. In the middle between you and your opponent's board are two bonus zones where only very specific types of monster can be summoned into, and you can only occupy one of them (most of the time). If both zones are free, you pick one to play your monster and your opponent is forced to play in the other zones, and vice versa.
Scapegoat was good even link format because trickstar was just that weird. It even got limited because they were making borreload dragon of all things.
Literally the first person that I have seen that didn't say "wait, let me read it again to be sure" on small world and he instantly understood it after walking through it in his mind for just a minute. I am increadibly impressed.
I don´t know ANYTHING about Magic but I´ll definitely would watch another video of this guy guessing YGO cards, he´s thought process is very interesting
I loved how he understood exactly all the ruling you told him, repeating it with magic words on point. This guys seems clever. Hearing his thought process was interesting and shows that he knows cards games ! (I play both magic and yugioh, loved it !)
I think that one thing that could've been explained about "small world" is that yu-gi-oh has the ability to use the "banish" zone way more than magic can use cards that becomes exiled. Great video!
While this is true, options for interacting with face-down banished cards are still very limited. As it applies to Small World specificially, a couple strategies can search for Gizmek Naganaki and use its graveyard effect to get back one of the things you banished, but that only ever came up in Rescue-ACE builds before the second wave of support. I think bringing it up would cause unnecessary confusion, because face-down banishing is about as permanent as exile in MTG.
This doesn't get mentioned often because it's kinda getting into the nitty-gritty of rules but cards referring to themselves by name does function very different in Magic and Yugioh. In Magic "CARDNAME" basically means "this object" and is used akin to Yugioh's "this card". In Yugioh, "CARDNAME" means "all cards named this". Very fun episode. I think it'd be a bit better if you more often let the guests finish their questions. I understand why you sometimes answer early, I've also played a lot of both games and often understand where they're going to go, but it makes for a better viewer and guest experience to let it play out. The video can go a bit longer, it's not a big deal.
Amazing how quickly he was able to intuit the gameplay choices players starting making with Mekk-Knights just from seeing what would probably be one of the worst Mekk-Knight cards
It's interesting I've now seen a few people just have the knack for perfectly understanding small world first try. I guess helps that you don't actually need the majority of context beyond "search for something that has exactly one thing in common" and most card game players know searching cards is good. I wonder if there's something about how it's written that it just clicks for certain people and not others, given there's a good number of *yugioh* players who don't really understand it.
Forgot to mention that scapegoat was massively used in a deck as late as 2019, the tokens were used to link climb in trickster. And also facilitated a play called the firewall dragon otk in said deck.
Great guest! Very good understanding without having too much context. Itd be nice to set ground rules for good/bad, as many mentioned nebula is good, but you cant play it in any good decks, its like saying any archetype draw 2 is bad, yes if those archetypes are bad it wont be played but power level is there. Not a critic or anything, might help the guests if they knew in which context the card needs to be good, is it its own power level, is it in todays meta or something else.
I love the fact that even a magic player can see the absurdity in "auhah u triggered my card you could have had zero way of knowing i had or playing around"
Hey man, I love this video series. As someone who teaches a lot on r/yugioh101, I do just have a friendly suggestion for something that comes up in most of your videos. Most of your guests get confused on Normal vs. Special Summoning, and you typically give a somewhat narrow explanation that focuses on the current card, which makes sense until the next card raises more questions and you need to ammend your previous explanation. I would just explain it concisely as, _"Since it costs no mana to summon a creature in Yugioh, you're instead limited to summoning just one creature from your hand per turn. This is called a Normal Summon/Set, and Level 5 or higher creatures require you to sacrifice other creatures. Summons by card effects and from the Extra Deck are called Special Summons and don't count toward this limit."_ Again, just a friendly suggestion. I've been loving this series so keep it up!
Im not 100% sure why but this was one of my favorite episodes yet. I think you two had good energy with each other, like natural cohost chemistry or something.
I always love this series, and I gotta say, his comment on Gamma is 100% on point! Lore-wise, all the hand trap Psy-Frames are either parts of Driver's suit, or parts of Driver's wack hover motorcycle thing.
fun fac the symbol in the top right is the type or attribute of the card and then right above it stands the type or attribute of the card. wana(trap), ma(spell), hikari(light), yami(like that one yugioh character people know most, dark), kaze(wind), hi(fire), mizu(water), ji(earth), kami(divine). they aren't JUST fun looking symbols, but they still are fun looking
A yugioh streamer named MBT would hold a monthly tournament back when in person play was mostly impossible (through simulators) and alot of them coincided with new product formats, so a good place to gauge the new format, but no one would take them seriously as someone would show up with mechknights in like 2022 and get to top cut to a point so frequently that they were called mechknight monthlys, luckily now he runs the only worth a crap tournaments in masterduel and no one shows up with mecknights
It may be a lot of extra work, but for some of the more difficult to intuit good cards it might be cool to show a replay of the card working. Not a full duel, but almost like the puzzles you get in YGO video games where you're against a board of stuff and you show how you can (for example) set up your own Red Moon and get in for game. Or something like that
Bro called Scapegoat bad, my brother in christ it's the namesake for GOAT Format 💀It's not seeing current play, but Scapegoat ruined early Link formats and created GOAT
W Meteor is pretty interestimg and was moderatly decent in like 2011, or 12. I mean it triggers flipp effects, is a free book of moon, lets you draw, and summon your big beater. Worm won some smaller tornaments because of that. And its just very well designed to do what worm wants it to do.
I think Kess misunderstood Normal Setting: You still pay your tributes when you set cards. Their stats do not change because Flipping them face up is something you get to do for free on your Main Phase 1. Not doing so would be cheating like morphing a non-morph.
7:30 "I would hang out with them" there are plushis of them, so it could technically be possible. Plus seeing in the original holiday cards they are edible
This guy picked up quick! I think it helped that whereas a lot of the MTG players you have on approach it from an MTG perspective, this man looked at it from a more general perspective of games (particularly card games) in general
@ 0:33 it would have been good to make him aware of the fact that scapegoats can still be tributed for costs and summon conditions, which are not the same as being tributed for a Tribute Summon.
Scapegoat = is actually good, it is an easy 1 turn Link 4 card. Typically, you can go into Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax. You use SG in your opponent's end step. So you don't lock your summons.
nah mekk knight were trend setters much like gorz is the reason you always attack from lowest ot highest or you avoid activating important cards in a column with a set back row as imperm defense
Despite none of it being super meta relevant it is funny just how much you could get completely owned for "incorrect" placement. Put something behind an EMZ? Oops, Relinquished Anima. Something in the far left or center? Here comes Geonator Transverser. Placed it on the far left *or* far right and put a spell/trap behind it? Now a vaylantz can easily shove it into the backrow and destroy the spell/trap at the same time. Nowhere is safe lmao.
i used the gamma package in numeron and it was super satisfying. if you get the magical calling interrupt you get 7500 on board pre-buff, and if you get it earlier on you get the synchro which rips a card from hand and clears itself.
it's fascinating that Yugioh was supposed to be an MTG clone, based on the original manga/anime, but it has completely different mechanics from magic, that a magic player cannot play the game just by knowing magic alone
@@thekoifishcoyote8762 yes, I mainly mean that instead of synchro, it was links that were the ones really abusing the card. Scapegoat was co-link with masterrule 4 so opponent couldn't summon from extra deck at all if it successfully resolved (in addition to 1 negate+banish and pre-errata firewall dragon and many more).
notes: 1: there are a very small amount of monsters who don't activate but yes generally gamma is broken 2: you should probably have mentioned that mekk nights can move other mechknights, slight correction "cost down" removes levels from a card in hand , but typically you don't do that :) 3: a judge can check face downs to verify that they where legal, this is because of artifacts but genraly yeh you just have to trust people
Something I've noticed in a bunch of these videos is the fixation on ATK/DEF stats when they are usually not really relevant in the modern format unless specific cards in the meta care about stats (e.g. TY-PHON, Scarlight RDA). Battle as a form of removal is often used as a last resort in yugioh
Also, the confusion between DEF and toughness - the fact that usually only the higher between ATK and DEF actually matters, based on position, rather than both being important, is unintuitive coming from Magic
W Nebula Meteorite can special summon summon a board wiper. There is a specific card it can summon outside the Alien archetype it was created within to make this possible. It is Edison-level Duel Links doable awesomeness. Dark Alligator, which is possibly what is what Jim Cook is carrying, also qualifies, making the card a good tech card for his decks in Duel Links.
I would maybe just have a picture of the playfield for yugioh. It seems like he was asking a whole lot of questions that could be answered with one that is just labeled. And maybe also explain hard vs soft once per turn effects. As an additional fun idea, showing archetypes of cards, so like the best 3 or 4 sky strikers, 3 or 4 best zoodiak, 3 or 4 best drytron etc etc would be interesting if you brought back former guests.
Psy frame Hand trap = Another mention is that both these cards on your turn can synchro into a level 8. What is important as there are many good generic level 8 monsters.
Enjoyed the discussion. On e suggestion, next time, I would also have shown an example of two synchros to summon with gamma and driver. Maybe omega and stardust.
I think it would make these a lot more interesting if you have an example of the play field (even untitled) so they can properly understand instead of trying to just describe the field. Especially if you’re going to have them evaluate cards like the Mekk knights that require knowledge of the board
I love how much everyone loves the phrase: A-HA! you've activated my trap card! x'D In pretty much all the videos i've seen of non yugioh players guessing yugioh cards the guest says the phrase in one way or another x'd
W Nebula is so funny cuz everybody, even YGO players, would say the 2nd part of the effect is nuts. But Reptiles, in general, are so bad that they even have other draw/mills that would be broken in other other decks in yugioh but still doesn't need to be banned. Also Psy-Frame Gamma is also broken because in decks where you tribute your only monster on the board as a cost to activate an effect, now you no longer have a monster on the board, fulfilling Gamma's condition. If they use a hand trap to negate that effect, you can now chain Gamma to negate the hand trap, summon 2 monsters on the field, and also get your original effect off. Gamma and Driver are tuner and non-tuner, and they are combined levels of 8. Level 8s are some of the most powerful synchros in the game, so now you've made a strong monster and got to activate a tribute for an effect, which tend to be pretty strong due to the riskiness of the cost. Kess has to be the fastest person to ever understand Small World from scratch. I can tell he's a smart dude
Seems like the W Nebula Meteorite would be fun in a Flip effect deck, especially if there's some Light Reptiles with some. "I activate WNM, flipping over my Man-Eater Chameleon, who destroys any non-Machine monster! Then he'll flip back face down, at the end phase!" But I vaguely know that yu-gi-oh boards are built to just be "You and permanents you control have Hexproof and Indestructible."
That is the exact kind of dect that card was built for, yes. The problem with that deck, the worms, is just that tye flip effects are not good and there's no way to boost the speed of their playstyle
W Nebula Meteorite has like enough benefit where it'd be worth attempting to resolve at least back when it was released, but despite having 26 worm cards, there really isn't enough good ones for a deck. If I remember correctly there is one that summons and one that destroys a monster on flipping, and everything else is bad. Also Dinosaurs are NOT reptiles in Yugioh. But there is an archetype that evolves from reptiles into dinosaurs into dragons, but only the dragon cards were any good.
Nebula Meteorite is just waiting for the right deck or support to break it 😂 Worms are flip monsters or monsters that activate when flipped face up(its different from flip momaters so they don't benefit from FLIP support cards) so flipping them face face up durong your opponent's turn activates their effects without going through the battle phase. The re-flipping part of the card basically resets their effects so you can use them on your turn. Worm king is usually what you bring put from your deck with this and cna potentially wipe the board by tributing a monster to destroy a card(not a once per turn iirc). Konami revitalized some archetypes with their new support from the Duel Terminal series of cards so Worms might get new support in the future 👀
I mean to be fair to W Nebula Meteorite it is, more or less, the best card in its intended archetype of Worms so in that context its good, but sadly Worms have (pretty much) never been, so the final evaluation is difficult to argue with.
Wasn't there a rule change after Infernity format to change how face-down cards were handled at the end of the duel? Maybe it was only on match end, but after their whole empty hand gimmick was abused by cheaters too much I thought it became official rule that fd cards had to be revealed upon request at end of duel.
I think something you should do is get a bunch of previous contestants and rather than going one card at a time you show them a handful of cards that work together and ask them if they were a threat or not. This way they have to think more so about the core of the deck rather than generics and hand traps and see how their knowledge adapts.
i realized what it actually meant after thinking about it for 2 seconds but when i read "MTG Creator" for a second i thought it meant the person who created magic the gathering lol
Surprised no one is mentioning how it is possible to have 7 monsters max not 6 since if you have a link monster pointing to the link zone you dint have a monster in you can then special summon to it from the extra deck.
If an opp scoops we may not be able to see their cards, but in your example, they would have to at least reveal what they added from the deck so there’s a little bit of trust built 😂
the videos would go smoother if you gave a little primer on the key differences between yugioh and magic at the beginning. how combat step works, chain vs stack, can't legally play a card that would partially resolve, setting cards (morph is usually mentioned but i think foretell is also comparable) normal summon limit, emphasize how fast the game is and that it sort of revolves around the extra deck (extra sideboard full of super powerful creatures that you can cast for free by meeting specific conditions, using other cards mostly monsters as resources - and that levels matter mostly for this). i think it would also help them a lot with the predictions without making it too easy. but they're not thinking of monsters as mostly extra deck resources, they're thinking of them like midrange creatures in magic.
another suggestion - make 'powercreeped' an answer option, so that they can answer that they think the card used to be good but doesn't work today. you did mention that scapegoat had its time but it's a bit more significant than just having been playable - one of the most famous competitive metas in yugiohs history was defined by it. goat control. sorry for saying a lot, but i've always wished there was more tcg crossover content on youtube. i played yugioh competitively since the game launched and quit when pendulums got spoiled. sold out everything shortly after that mechanic was revealed lol. weird that yugioh creators are way more averse to doing this than magic creators, but not that surprising.
I think there was a miscommunication when explaining Normal Set. If the card would require tributes to be normal summoned, the card still needs tributes to be set
i think it would be a good idea to show the person a YUGIOH field, especially with cards like Mekk-Knights or infinite impermanence and also in general since the board is kinda imortant and different to most TCGs.
He mostly evaluated Mekk-Knight Red Moon correctly, I would say. The only thing he missed is that you can create a column with your opponent's cards by setting spell/traps. But he still got there in the end. I wouldn't even be comfortable saying it's bad today. It's still a deck that is a solid rogue pick from time to time. And it can tear a Tier 1-2 deck apart if the pilot isn't prepared for it. The main point is that any time the deck is on people's radar, it gets worse, and when it isn't, it gets better. It isn't for *no* reason that we play around them still. It's because a lot of people still have memories of being caught off guard when they stop playing around them. To be honest, I do think people will stop playing around them in time. I don't think it will just be habit forever. After all, no one plays around Gorz anymore.
"scapegoat was used in synchro".. do this guy actually know the history of ygo? Like, maybe scapegoat was used in synchro as well but its main uses were: - goat format, which is LITERALLY NAMED AFTER THIS CARD, to make funsion thanks to metamorphosis - 2017/early 2018 to make some links, especially borreload in trickstar. Saying synchro is very limiting
I wouldn’t be doing this show if I didn’t know Yugioh 😅 I always try to explain things in the simplest terms I can, and that misses some nuance in most cases
Maybe mention the times the cards were good or how the cards are bad a little bit more. Like saying that there was a whole Goat format named after Scape Goats and that W Nebula Meteorite wouldve been good, if there was a good Reptile Deck back then.
I feel it's not helpful to say Scapegoat was once good for synchro or link plays in the past if you aren't going to explain that the entire summon restriction at the bottom was added to make it bad for those plays. A lot of these errata cards need context for what text existed when they were played.
how about showing YUGIOG cards to MTG players while telling them one of them is banned, and see if they guess Butterfly Dagger Elma is banned
Yeah like 2 truths 1 lie.xD That sounds fun concept.
The content!
That sounds broken!
I guess they'll figure it's banned because in magic there is sword of the meek.
It's almost the same combo as old school elma combo basically, it keeps returning to generate infinite resources.
yes and show cards like arkhana force the world that will throw them off because yeh
I’d love to see him return. He seemed to pick up the game of Yugioh incredibly fast
I agree he picked it up insanely fast
This one defo needs to pilot some decks!
Largely that's due to all of the concepts and strategies(as far as I've seen on any of these) that are present in yugi exist within magic. We just have to deal with a greater amount resource management.
It's harder for yugi players to assess magic cards honestly
Its funny that without any context he understood the issue of infernity players setting monsters in the spell/trap zone.
Plot twist : they set an artifact
🤣
Yep!! Sneaky sneaky
I must be the only infernity player who wasn’t doing that, but my tournament results corroborate that.
Mtg player here. There is a whole set of mechanical rules around preventing cheating in magic. Like searching for a card from your deck you must reveal it most times
his analysis of cards is insane for someone who first sees them, figured out all the details for psyframes and mekk knights really quick, even the "catch them if they are lazy" with the column micromanaging which happened quite a lot whenever mekk knights would come and go in and out of the meta.
Makes sense since he designs games for a living!
I had a friend who played Mekk knights so I almost always tend to play around columns when I don't know the opposing deck, same goes for Relinquished Anima or Transverser, but in that case it was due to me playing both those cards fairly often in my decks.
I love how cards like gamma, mekk knights, imperm, and even gorz have basically permanently programmed yugioh players to play a certain way regardless of their actual presence
Attack with the smallest monster first!
i think my favorite part of small world as a card is its so open ended that we as a community have created a website to be a "small world" game where you get two random cards (the first card and the last) & have to find the small world target in the middle.
I feel like important context of W Nebula Meteorite is that its archetype *is* one of the few ones which special summons cards face down..
"Pot of Greed is Ancestral Recall but for 0 mana, and you get 2 cards instead of 3"
That's a really good description, I can't think of a more concise way to explain that card
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Why not "Pot of greed is divination but for 0 Mana". Recall not only draws a different amount of cards but also targets any player, PoG cant do that. Divination is literally the same text but with mana on the top right
@@ich3730 It was a "but what does Pot of Greed do?" joke.
I can! "Draw two cards."
@@minabasejderha5972 that doesn't make any sense
Scapegoat was good in link format as well for a while, so much so that it was limited for a few formats. It had fantastic synergy with link spider and linkuriboh. Not to mention it was basically a free link 4 if activated during your opponents end phase
Only problem was it’s a bit slow, but still it was _so_ easy to fart out a Link-4.
@@joshuahadams being able to use multiple copies a turn was also great to eat a battle phase and then activate another during end phase. Thanks old Konami card design! You're right though it was pretty slow
@@chrismiller3548 you know he mentioned that it was used for that, also goat format named goat for a reason
@@godzilia2 he specifically mentioned using it for synchro summons and that was it
@@chrismiller3548 did he want to explain links to the new guy for essentially no reason other than, hey, this card was more used for this entirely different type of summoning that i have to explain, the reason he explained synchro was because next card was gamma, and it fit scapegoat
I'm amazed how you get better and better at explaining Yugioh to Magic players each episode
I’m trying my best!
You guys were absolutely talking past each other around 38:00. Kess is asking whether you have to tribute monsters in order to set a level 5+ monster.
Aye that was frustrating
Damn I didn’t even notice he was asking about how to tribute set there. My bad.
@@TheOneJameYT it seems a lot of magic players don't pick up on levels as quick and focus more on power. He did mention setting a 12/12. Maybe explaining the kind of power levels you can expect from certain level/tribute thresholds could help in the future?
Though it did open up an interesting discussion... If you could guarantee your face down creatures wouldn't get flipped, could you just set whatever you want if there is no check stage after the game is over?
@@Xavis0 sure, it's like when Infernity players would set monsters in the back row to get an empty hand, not really any way to stop that
@@Xavis0 yes, but if you’re ever caught it’s bad news. The rule in Yugioh is you just have to trust them lol
This is such a great improvement to the series, not that the previous episodes are bad but the flow of this one was just better. The way you introduced the guest to the mechanics of yugioh was soooooo much more succinct and engrossing.
I’m getting better at it over time 🤣
the way he understood small world so quickly....incredible
Small world is just one complicated effect. It’s way easier to parse for a non-YGO player than a giant block of text with 3 different effects in it
Plus it doesn’t require any context to understand, the effect works in any card game and would be good in any card game
It’s just a card that has a very complicated text but when put into play is so incredibly simple to understand
Yep!!
It might be cool to do some sort of "find the cheat/cheese" episode, where you show or describe the idea behind a card/deck and see if they can guess how it cheeses or how you'd cheat while playing it. See if they can figure out the good ol' Infernity "set spell".
Alternatively: Maybe show them a set of cards (like eight at once) and see if they can pick out the broken interactions from the red herrings, like Library + Bamboo Swords + Exodia, the Yata Lock combo, etc.
I like those ideas!
Notice that when he evaluated W Nebula Meteorite, he talked about the advantages of flipping all of the opponent's monsters facedown to blank them as the defining feature of the trap card.
So if given a card to read like Book of Eclipse, he would most certainly say that that card is amazing. The only thing he didn't account for in this case was the fact that Trap cards are way too slow.
You can also title the video "KessWylie figuring out the best Infernity strats in real time"
(during the W Nebula Meteorite discussion)
Shame we don't have a Infernity monster that can be set face-down (or at least a Infernity Pendulum)
Lmao that’s one of my favorite parts of the video
@@TheOneJameYT You should have told him how Infernity players would cheat by setting their monsters as S/T because they needed an empty hand, then immediately scooped when you use a S/T removal lmao
"The most roundabout way to tutor for a creature"was a great moment.
How about an episode where you show Magic players Yugioh players?
That would be insane 😅
W Nebula isn't a bad card, it's just the archetype it's attached to. If Worms were broken, this card would be banned immediately, or when a light reptile deck can abuse it.
You mean like snake rain being busted on paper but because there's no great reptile decks the card doesn't do much
nebula will never be good again, it sucks and if a new wave of worms come out they probably wont run trap cards unless they are searchable through their combos.
I was about to say, W Nebula Meteorite is an incredible card that made the otherwise terrible Worm archetype playable back in the day.
This is one of the worst cards to show someone because the card requires massive amounts of context (that Worms have effects activate when they are flipped up, that Worms are bad, that this is intended to work with Worms) and this card by itself is COMPLETELY INSANE even by today's standards.
Lastly the summon effect of W Nebula Meteorite gets revealed to the opponent before it's set because of the rules of the game.
Right, from someone who doesn't know the archetype, I was like "can't you just special summon some relevant monsters in defense position (which, with lightning storm existing, you probably wanna do anyway), flip them all face down if they don't get outed (big if tbh but still), draw some AND get a free summon from the deck, then flip them face up? Maybe on the slow side (all of this is basically turn 3-4), but beyond that (like maybe back in the day?) seems really good
Yugioh has plenty of these cards, busted in a vacuum but trash with context. It's kinda unfair giving them in these cross-TCG format unless you forgo the idea of it being a bad or good card entirely and explain the circumstances around it
Scapegoat a pretty good card in the past is kind of an understatement. "Goat Format" was a thing. It was a meta defining card then banned for many many years, and then became good again in 2018 and hasnt seen play since
Was Scapegoat Banned or Limited when Link monsters were initially introduced?
@@leebulger7112 It was at 3 iirc but was limited again soon after
@@zed60k47 I thought so but when I looked up Scapegoat it said unlimited.
@@leebulger7112 it's unlimited rn but at the start of link format it was limited again for a short while iirc
@@leebulger7112 yeah it was unlimited when link came out, became limited again soon after and since then was unlimited again
Great episode, Kess was absolutely spot on for most of the cards and I can't believe how he got Small World in like 10 seconds.
One thing he kinda missed about the Mekk Knight is that while your opponent can play around it by positioning their cards, if you have a S/T in your hand you can set it and summon the Mekk Knight to the same column as their monster regardless.
I would describe the YGO board like this: Both players has a 5x2 area, the top row (closer to their opponent) are the Monster zones, the "back row" is for playing sorceries, instants and traps. You have to physically put sorcery/instant on the board to activate them, which means if you have 5 cards in the back row you can't use another sorcery/instant. Most S/T are sent to the grave after they resolve, but those with the infinity symbol stays on the board instead, and usually has some effects you can use as long as they are still on the board.
In the middle between you and your opponent's board are two bonus zones where only very specific types of monster can be summoned into, and you can only occupy one of them (most of the time). If both zones are free, you pick one to play your monster and your opponent is forced to play in the other zones, and vice versa.
I can’t believe he got small world right away!
Scapegoat was good even link format because trickstar was just that weird. It even got limited because they were making borreload dragon of all things.
Borreload was so hard to deal with back then lol
Literally the first person that I have seen that didn't say "wait, let me read it again to be sure" on small world and he instantly understood it after walking through it in his mind for just a minute.
I am increadibly impressed.
I was impressed too, shocked even
I don´t know ANYTHING about Magic but I´ll definitely would watch another video of this guy guessing YGO cards, he´s thought process is very interesting
It would be awesome to have him back on the show again!
I loved how he understood exactly all the ruling you told him, repeating it with magic words on point.
This guys seems clever.
Hearing his thought process was interesting and shows that he knows cards games ! (I play both magic and yugioh, loved it !)
Glad you loved it!
He gave me the impression he was clever too, the speed at which he figured out what small world does was incredible, one read was all it took
I think that one thing that could've been explained about "small world" is that yu-gi-oh has the ability to use the "banish" zone way more than magic can use cards that becomes exiled. Great video!
Thanks!!
While this is true, options for interacting with face-down banished cards are still very limited. As it applies to Small World specificially, a couple strategies can search for Gizmek Naganaki and use its graveyard effect to get back one of the things you banished, but that only ever came up in Rescue-ACE builds before the second wave of support.
I think bringing it up would cause unnecessary confusion, because face-down banishing is about as permanent as exile in MTG.
This doesn't get mentioned often because it's kinda getting into the nitty-gritty of rules but cards referring to themselves by name does function very different in Magic and Yugioh. In Magic "CARDNAME" basically means "this object" and is used akin to Yugioh's "this card". In Yugioh, "CARDNAME" means "all cards named this".
Very fun episode. I think it'd be a bit better if you more often let the guests finish their questions. I understand why you sometimes answer early, I've also played a lot of both games and often understand where they're going to go, but it makes for a better viewer and guest experience to let it play out. The video can go a bit longer, it's not a big deal.
Sometimes I answer early because I want to tell them something really important about the general rules of yugioh before they answer lol
This was really interesting! Alex was very good at just asking relevant questions and understanding the concepts of everything.
Great job on this one!
Thanks James! (That’s my name too)
Amazing how quickly he was able to intuit the gameplay choices players starting making with Mekk-Knights just from seeing what would probably be one of the worst Mekk-Knight cards
Clearly you have forgotten about Mekk-Knights Green Horizon and Orange Sunset, they're way worse than Red Moon
Yep!! Super impressive
I think these should be accompanied by an image of the playfield for a bit of context
It's interesting I've now seen a few people just have the knack for perfectly understanding small world first try.
I guess helps that you don't actually need the majority of context beyond "search for something that has exactly one thing in common" and most card game players know searching cards is good.
I wonder if there's something about how it's written that it just clicks for certain people and not others, given there's a good number of *yugioh* players who don't really understand it.
I thought it would be more confusing for him but he got it right away 🤣
Forgot to mention that scapegoat was massively used in a deck as late as 2019, the tokens were used to link climb in trickster. And also facilitated a play called the firewall dragon otk in said deck.
Great guest! Very good understanding without having too much context. Itd be nice to set ground rules for good/bad, as many mentioned nebula is good, but you cant play it in any good decks, its like saying any archetype draw 2 is bad, yes if those archetypes are bad it wont be played but power level is there. Not a critic or anything, might help the guests if they knew in which context the card needs to be good, is it its own power level, is it in todays meta or something else.
I love the fact that even a magic player can see the absurdity in "auhah u triggered my card you could have had zero way of knowing i had or playing around"
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"Does it punch thru them and turn them into a donut... maybe" lol, love to see random One piece memes references
🤣🤣
Hey man, I love this video series. As someone who teaches a lot on r/yugioh101, I do just have a friendly suggestion for something that comes up in most of your videos.
Most of your guests get confused on Normal vs. Special Summoning, and you typically give a somewhat narrow explanation that focuses on the current card, which makes sense until the next card raises more questions and you need to ammend your previous explanation.
I would just explain it concisely as, _"Since it costs no mana to summon a creature in Yugioh, you're instead limited to summoning just one creature from your hand per turn. This is called a Normal Summon/Set, and Level 5 or higher creatures require you to sacrifice other creatures. Summons by card effects and from the Extra Deck are called Special Summons and don't count toward this limit."_
Again, just a friendly suggestion. I've been loving this series so keep it up!
Thanks for the help!! It’s hard to think of these things on the spot 😅 Glad you’re enjoying the series
I like hearing this guy’s thought process, it feels good for some reason
He’s a game designer!
Im not 100% sure why but this was one of my favorite episodes yet. I think you two had good energy with each other, like natural cohost chemistry or something.
We’ve known each other for awhile!
I always love this series, and I gotta say, his comment on Gamma is 100% on point! Lore-wise, all the hand trap Psy-Frames are either parts of Driver's suit, or parts of Driver's wack hover motorcycle thing.
I never even thought of that until he said that and it makes PERFECT SENSE
@@TheOneJameYT Omega is just a Driver with all Hand-Traps equipped to him.
fun fac the symbol in the top right is the type or attribute of the card and then right above it stands the type or attribute of the card. wana(trap), ma(spell), hikari(light), yami(like that one yugioh character people know most, dark), kaze(wind), hi(fire), mizu(water), ji(earth), kami(divine). they aren't JUST fun looking symbols, but they still are fun looking
absolutely loved the vibes analysis of the scapegoat card tho, he's correct the vibes are immaculate
A yugioh streamer named MBT would hold a monthly tournament back when in person play was mostly impossible (through simulators) and alot of them coincided with new product formats, so a good place to gauge the new format, but no one would take them seriously as someone would show up with mechknights in like 2022 and get to top cut to a point so frequently that they were called mechknight monthlys, luckily now he runs the only worth a crap tournaments in masterduel and no one shows up with mecknights
Scapegoat was an early mr4 staple as well, bc it contributed to link climbing. it even got put on the list from that format.
shouldve shown him psy-framelord omega just to see driver riding gamma (hes a scooter actually)
No way😂😂😂
I should’ve!!
It may be a lot of extra work, but for some of the more difficult to intuit good cards it might be cool to show a replay of the card working. Not a full duel, but almost like the puzzles you get in YGO video games where you're against a board of stuff and you show how you can (for example) set up your own Red Moon and get in for game. Or something like that
That’s a good idea!
Bro called Scapegoat bad, my brother in christ it's the namesake for GOAT Format 💀It's not seeing current play, but Scapegoat ruined early Link formats and created GOAT
Ik this is really late, but typically these videos are talking abt the modern format
W Meteor is pretty interestimg and was moderatly decent in like 2011, or 12. I mean it triggers flipp effects, is a free book of moon, lets you draw, and summon your big beater.
Worm won some smaller tornaments because of that. And its just very well designed to do what worm wants it to do.
I think Kess misunderstood Normal Setting: You still pay your tributes when you set cards. Their stats do not change because Flipping them face up is something you get to do for free on your Main Phase 1. Not doing so would be cheating like morphing a non-morph.
This guy is a true card player , did a pretty good job
Wholeheartedly agree
7:30 "I would hang out with them"
there are plushis of them, so it could technically be possible.
Plus seeing in the original holiday cards they are edible
Oh god, don't give him any ideas!
This guy picked up quick! I think it helped that whereas a lot of the MTG players you have on approach it from an MTG perspective, this man looked at it from a more general perspective of games (particularly card games) in general
Yea it makes sense since he’s a game designer!
@ 0:33 it would have been good to make him aware of the fact that scapegoats can still be tributed for costs and summon conditions, which are not the same as being tributed for a Tribute Summon.
Scapegoat = is actually good, it is an easy 1 turn Link 4 card. Typically, you can go into Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax. You use SG in your opponent's end step. So you don't lock your summons.
31:01 is it bad that I still watch for columns?
Not bad at all!!
nah mekk knight were trend setters much like gorz is the reason you always attack from lowest ot highest or you avoid activating important cards in a column with a set back row as imperm defense
Despite none of it being super meta relevant it is funny just how much you could get completely owned for "incorrect" placement. Put something behind an EMZ? Oops, Relinquished Anima. Something in the far left or center? Here comes Geonator Transverser. Placed it on the far left *or* far right and put a spell/trap behind it? Now a vaylantz can easily shove it into the backrow and destroy the spell/trap at the same time.
Nowhere is safe lmao.
i used the gamma package in numeron and it was super satisfying. if you get the magical calling interrupt you get 7500 on board pre-buff, and if you get it earlier on you get the synchro which rips a card from hand and clears itself.
Broken!!
it's fascinating that Yugioh was supposed to be an MTG clone, based on the original manga/anime, but it has completely different mechanics from magic, that a magic player cannot play the game just by knowing magic alone
I want to see how they react to continuous traps that turn into monsters
Thats easy to guess kinda
Magic players are used to Artifacts and Enchantments that turn into monsters, so i don't think it would be a problem.
Scapegoat was also good early link format.
Early link format was ~5 years ago
@@thekoifishcoyote8762 yes, I mainly mean that instead of synchro, it was links that were the ones really abusing the card. Scapegoat was co-link with masterrule 4 so opponent couldn't summon from extra deck at all if it successfully resolved (in addition to 1 negate+banish and pre-errata firewall dragon and many more).
notes:
1: there are a very small amount of monsters who don't activate but yes generally gamma is broken
2: you should probably have mentioned that mekk nights can move other mechknights, slight correction "cost down" removes levels from a card in hand , but typically you don't do that :)
3: a judge can check face downs to verify that they where legal, this is because of artifacts but genraly yeh you just have to trust people
All these years I thought Richard Garfield was the MTG creator.
He’s an MTG Content Creator, not the actual creator
Dude talked into a full debate with himself a few times lol
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Ok, not knowing much about MTG, I thought the title meant this guy invented the actual TCG 😂
He is a game designer but he did not create magic!
Something I've noticed in a bunch of these videos is the fixation on ATK/DEF stats when they are usually not really relevant in the modern format unless specific cards in the meta care about stats (e.g. TY-PHON, Scarlight RDA). Battle as a form of removal is often used as a last resort in yugioh
Magic (and one piece for thet matter) both reallly focus on the combat step still.
Also, the confusion between DEF and toughness - the fact that usually only the higher between ATK and DEF actually matters, based on position, rather than both being important, is unintuitive coming from Magic
@@Raithul oh yeah. I’m not sure I ever perfectly figured it out
W Nebula Meteorite can special summon summon a board wiper. There is a specific card it can summon outside the Alien archetype it was created within to make this possible. It is Edison-level Duel Links doable awesomeness.
Dark Alligator, which is possibly what is what Jim Cook is carrying, also qualifies, making the card a good tech card for his decks in Duel Links.
I would maybe just have a picture of the playfield for yugioh. It seems like he was asking a whole lot of questions that could be answered with one that is just labeled. And maybe also explain hard vs soft once per turn effects.
As an additional fun idea, showing archetypes of cards, so like the best 3 or 4 sky strikers, 3 or 4 best zoodiak, 3 or 4 best drytron etc etc would be interesting if you brought back former guests.
Something like that is coming soon!
Psy frame Hand trap = Another mention is that both these cards on your turn can synchro into a level 8. What is important as there are many good generic level 8 monsters.
now i just want this guy to tell me the vibes he gets from various yugioh cards
That could be a whole video lol
I have a cyberse/link deck that splashes Mekk-Knights and the presented card is a great one to have. The lvl8 that can Senet Switch is essential.
Enjoyed the discussion.
On e suggestion, next time, I would also have shown an example of two synchros to summon with gamma and driver.
Maybe omega and stardust.
I thought about it!
I think it would make these a lot more interesting if you have an example of the play field (even untitled) so they can properly understand instead of trying to just describe the field. Especially if you’re going to have them evaluate cards like the Mekk knights that require knowledge of the board
Fair enough!
I love how much everyone loves the phrase: A-HA! you've activated my trap card! x'D
In pretty much all the videos i've seen of non yugioh players guessing yugioh cards the guest says the phrase in one way or another x'd
I know and it’s hilarious 🤣
im impressed he managed to accurately evaluate something as convoluted as small world
Same!
W Nebula is so funny cuz everybody, even YGO players, would say the 2nd part of the effect is nuts. But Reptiles, in general, are so bad that they even have other draw/mills that would be broken in other other decks in yugioh but still doesn't need to be banned.
Also Psy-Frame Gamma is also broken because in decks where you tribute your only monster on the board as a cost to activate an effect, now you no longer have a monster on the board, fulfilling Gamma's condition. If they use a hand trap to negate that effect, you can now chain Gamma to negate the hand trap, summon 2 monsters on the field, and also get your original effect off. Gamma and Driver are tuner and non-tuner, and they are combined levels of 8. Level 8s are some of the most powerful synchros in the game, so now you've made a strong monster and got to activate a tribute for an effect, which tend to be pretty strong due to the riskiness of the cost.
Kess has to be the fastest person to ever understand Small World from scratch. I can tell he's a smart dude
Haha yea he’s the fastest to ever understand that card 😅
Im amazed how fast he figured small world out, i got so confused first time i read it
Same!
Seems like the W Nebula Meteorite would be fun in a Flip effect deck, especially if there's some Light Reptiles with some.
"I activate WNM, flipping over my Man-Eater Chameleon, who destroys any non-Machine monster! Then he'll flip back face down, at the end phase!"
But I vaguely know that yu-gi-oh boards are built to just be "You and permanents you control have Hexproof and Indestructible."
That is the exact kind of dect that card was built for, yes. The problem with that deck, the worms, is just that tye flip effects are not good and there's no way to boost the speed of their playstyle
W Nebula Meteorite has like enough benefit where it'd be worth attempting to resolve at least back when it was released, but despite having 26 worm cards, there really isn't enough good ones for a deck. If I remember correctly there is one that summons and one that destroys a monster on flipping, and everything else is bad.
Also Dinosaurs are NOT reptiles in Yugioh. But there is an archetype that evolves from reptiles into dinosaurs into dragons, but only the dragon cards were any good.
Nebula Meteorite is just waiting for the right deck or support to break it 😂 Worms are flip monsters or monsters that activate when flipped face up(its different from flip momaters so they don't benefit from FLIP support cards) so flipping them face face up durong your opponent's turn activates their effects without going through the battle phase. The re-flipping part of the card basically resets their effects so you can use them on your turn. Worm king is usually what you bring put from your deck with this and cna potentially wipe the board by tributing a monster to destroy a card(not a once per turn iirc).
Konami revitalized some archetypes with their new support from the Duel Terminal series of cards so Worms might get new support in the future 👀
"this is a motorcycle" kinda not wrong, Driver does ride the PSY-Frames across the circuit before merging with them.
I'd like to say thanks for making so much of these so consistently! It is greatly appreciated
Happy you’re enjoying them!
I mean to be fair to W Nebula Meteorite it is, more or less, the best card in its intended archetype of Worms so in that context its good, but sadly Worms have (pretty much) never been, so the final evaluation is difficult to argue with.
All creatures have Haste, Defender, and Trample, but you can set them to cancel trample in most cases.
Yep!!
ok you got me jame i have been watching your content for a while now you got my sub
Appreciate it!!
Idk man I can’t in my heart of hearts say that Scapegoat is bad… I can’t say it’s playable either tho 😂
Actually there was a weird barrier statue scapegoat deck at some point.
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Wasn't there a rule change after Infernity format to change how face-down cards were handled at the end of the duel? Maybe it was only on match end, but after their whole empty hand gimmick was abused by cheaters too much I thought it became official rule that fd cards had to be revealed upon request at end of duel.
I think something you should do is get a bunch of previous contestants and rather than going one card at a time you show them a handful of cards that work together and ask them if they were a threat or not. This way they have to think more so about the core of the deck rather than generics and hand traps and see how their knowledge adapts.
That’s an idea that’s already in the works!
i realized what it actually meant after thinking about it for 2 seconds but when i read "MTG Creator" for a second i thought it meant the person who created magic the gathering lol
lol that would be cool though
100% fine with everyone just assuming I invented magic
I can't believe you finally did Small World. Hats off.
My hat is off
45:12 did he just make a WB joke? Tell me I’m not the only person who caught that.
Surprised no one is mentioning how it is possible to have 7 monsters max not 6 since if you have a link monster pointing to the link zone you dint have a monster in you can then special summon to it from the extra deck.
Explaining extra linking to a new player sounds awful 😅
If an opp scoops we may not be able to see their cards, but in your example, they would have to at least reveal what they added from the deck so there’s a little bit of trust built 😂
the videos would go smoother if you gave a little primer on the key differences between yugioh and magic at the beginning. how combat step works, chain vs stack, can't legally play a card that would partially resolve, setting cards (morph is usually mentioned but i think foretell is also comparable) normal summon limit, emphasize how fast the game is and that it sort of revolves around the extra deck (extra sideboard full of super powerful creatures that you can cast for free by meeting specific conditions, using other cards mostly monsters as resources - and that levels matter mostly for this). i think it would also help them a lot with the predictions without making it too easy. but they're not thinking of monsters as mostly extra deck resources, they're thinking of them like midrange creatures in magic.
another suggestion - make 'powercreeped' an answer option, so that they can answer that they think the card used to be good but doesn't work today. you did mention that scapegoat had its time but it's a bit more significant than just having been playable - one of the most famous competitive metas in yugiohs history was defined by it. goat control. sorry for saying a lot, but i've always wished there was more tcg crossover content on youtube. i played yugioh competitively since the game launched and quit when pendulums got spoiled. sold out everything shortly after that mechanic was revealed lol. weird that yugioh creators are way more averse to doing this than magic creators, but not that surprising.
I think there was a miscommunication when explaining Normal Set. If the card would require tributes to be normal summoned, the card still needs tributes to be set
the very last time spacegoat was in a meta deck it was in trickstar decks during the firewall dragon era of the game
Yep! I vividly remember that
i think it would be a good idea to show the person a YUGIOH field, especially with cards like Mekk-Knights or infinite impermanence and also in general since the board is kinda imortant and different to most TCGs.
I liked figuring it out! Lol.
He mostly evaluated Mekk-Knight Red Moon correctly, I would say. The only thing he missed is that you can create a column with your opponent's cards by setting spell/traps. But he still got there in the end.
I wouldn't even be comfortable saying it's bad today. It's still a deck that is a solid rogue pick from time to time. And it can tear a Tier 1-2 deck apart if the pilot isn't prepared for it.
The main point is that any time the deck is on people's radar, it gets worse, and when it isn't, it gets better. It isn't for *no* reason that we play around them still. It's because a lot of people still have memories of being caught off guard when they stop playing around them.
To be honest, I do think people will stop playing around them in time. I don't think it will just be habit forever. After all, no one plays around Gorz anymore.
Honestly all it takes is an archetype that punishes you for spreading your card through columns and Mekk Knights wouldn't suffer that much
"scapegoat was used in synchro".. do this guy actually know the history of ygo? Like, maybe scapegoat was used in synchro as well but its main uses were:
- goat format, which is LITERALLY NAMED AFTER THIS CARD, to make funsion thanks to metamorphosis
- 2017/early 2018 to make some links, especially borreload in trickstar.
Saying synchro is very limiting
Also W nebula meteorite is not a trash card. All reptile cards are!
I wouldn’t be doing this show if I didn’t know Yugioh 😅 I always try to explain things in the simplest terms I can, and that misses some nuance in most cases
Maybe mention the times the cards were good or how the cards are bad a little bit more. Like saying that there was a whole Goat format named after Scape Goats and that W Nebula Meteorite wouldve been good, if there was a good Reptile Deck back then.
Very true!
My favorote part of Yugioh card review is the guesser thinking theres any reassoning or theme to the card art XD
Yep 🤣
its funny the fact that he was basically right about Gamma being Driver's motorcycle
I know right lmao
I feel it's not helpful to say Scapegoat was once good for synchro or link plays in the past if you aren't going to explain that the entire summon restriction at the bottom was added to make it bad for those plays.
A lot of these errata cards need context for what text existed when they were played.
I feel like the video would be over an hour long if I explained every little detail but I wish I could lol
Goat was also good for links when they first came out