Yugioh Player Tries To Guess How Good MTG Cards Are w/
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- MTG Yugituber MBT joins the show trying to guess how good Magic: the Gathering cards are!
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This video is really funny because within the Yugioh community this is our Magic guy
That’s such good irony 🤣
I thought he was the gay sex white guy
This is actually true. That's kinda wild
I mean, you can tell he has knowledge of the game, multiple formats and sets up until ~2019. Its just the fact that the power creep these past 4 years has been absolutely insane.
@@animalchin5082 yes that’s the fun part 🤣
"It's also a 7/7 flying deathtouch vigilance lifelink"
"sure why not"
My thoughts exactly
🤣
might as well make it take your lunch money at that point
steal or should i say compleat your girl as well
reach across and slap the other player in the face as well
I was playing arena and as I read this my opponent is playing atraxa
Griselbrand isnt entirely worse but atraxa definitely sees more generic play than griselbrand because you dont pay 7.
"so they do this thing where they print a _Garbage_ set with 1 good card"
Yugioh players: hey ive seen this one!
I love yugioh's only mtg player
🤣
So glad to see MBT among his people after all the shade Farfa throws at him for bringing up Magic in Yugioh discussions.
I’ve taken him to his happy place
We need a "MBT reacts to power creep in MtG"
That would be a banger video
Seconded!
@@TheOneJameYTI wanna c that too! Most of my MTG card knowledge comes from these crossover TCG vids like the 1s u make. Even on the MTG side is still enjoy them.
As a Fan of MBT, Thirded! I would love to watch you walking MBT through Powercrept cards and what is Ran as Meta decks Now!
MBT looks at Modern Horizons 1&2. 💀
Man a "Yu-Gi-Oh professional player judges Yu-Gi-Oh cards" would go hard as an April fool's video
Lmao don’t tempt me
Joshua Schmidt reviewing Circular, Loci and Raye.
@@Rahochusosu Don't you know? He loves Raye. He would die for Sky Striker Raye...
MBT did that a while ago. Picked entirely cards where the answer was more complicated than good/bad and decided every answer was wrong.
They don’t reads their own cards, so valid
Next video is gonna be “MBT plays a single game of Karlov Manor standard and loses his FUCKING MIND”
Resolves one Atraxa, head explodes
MBT's surprise with Liliana of the Veil it really shows the power creep magic has suffered in the past years... Would love to see MBT reacting to the powerful cards of right now
You forgot to mention one of the most important parts of Lorien Revealed. It's a "land" that is blue so you can pitch it to cast force of will, force of negation, and subtlety!
Oops you’re right, I need to go to my corner
@@TheOneJameYT Always remember if it pitches to force, it is vintage playable.
@@54321eclipse12345 cryptic coat, my beloved
@@TheOneJameYTshoutouts to cryptic coat for carrying my sorry butt to 3-0 at FNM last weekend
I really enjoyed this because it’s one of the rare times both players can really discuss both Yugioh AND MTG. Generally players only understand one game or only one of the players can draw parallels.
A brand new one with MBT is coming out today in a few hours, hope you enjoy it!
The concept of letting players of other TCGs rate cards works so much better if the guest actually knows the basics of the game and this video is a good example of that.
19:45 The flavor is basically this: Wrenn is a dryad, and dryads can bond with trees and animate them into treefolk. Wrenn has done this (originally) six different times, and she's always named her treefolk companions by number. Of course we all know Wrenn and Six, the most recent Innistrad story saw her retire Six to the Ulvenwald, where she and Teferi had found Seven, her next tree companion. Finally, as a means to defeat the Phyrexians, Wrenn and Seven travel to New Phyrexia. Unfortunately, a compleated Nissa destroys and kills Seven, leaving Wrenn without a tree and she was slowly dying. Wrenn decided to sacrifice herself and bonded with the world tree Realmbreaker, which the Phyrexians were using to invade the Multiverse. Of course, this card isn't named "Wrenn and Eight" but Wrenn does call the tree Eight as she is sacrificing herself to bring the forces of Zhalfir to New Phyrexia to fight.
It was a really cool story beat too. Shame the card is so underwhelming. I don't even need it to be super competitive as long as it felt strong and powerful as the lore implied. Same with Elspeth. And then Chandra is the big splashy Planeswalker of the set for some reason. Nothing against Chandra but she wasn't the focus of that story.
That's pretty badass
I love how Joseph just lights up when he remembers about the giant eff-off demons. The face of someone who really loves to pay 7 life and draw 7 cards
Haha for sure!
MBT was great to have on, please defo do more vids with him.
That would be fun!
@@TheOneJameYT blow his mind with the flip-saga praetors 😋
@@RoxyGotMoxy. that would be insane lol
@@TheOneJameYT just him getting progressively more and more flabbergasted 😂
I don’t know if the editing has always been this good, not something I actively noticed before maybe, but you putting up all the random cards you guys bring up, on the screen so we can all see and read them is really nice. You’ve been doing a great job with these my dude.
I want everyone watching to know about all the cards we talk about so they have all the context, no matter which card games they play. Thanks for noticing!
ofc he's become yugioh player, he was blue player lol
Lmao makes perfect sense
If you’d believe it, one of his favorite decks is literally blue merfolk dredge with a bunch of negates in YuGiOh.
@@Unknown-qj9sm tearlamoment
@@Unknown-qj9smbunch of negates? It was usually like two
@@Xenonfujithey play on both turns so they are 4 negates for the other player
Love seeing someone familiar with magic try to rate these cards, when he recognized Ormendahl from flavor text and asked if we ever got a card of him was awesome
Yes that was really neat
He was a bit confused doe, since Ormendahl was not one of Liliana's demons.
Edit: it was really cool doe, i am not judging him confusing the lore a bit
Nah... it totally stands for Marincess Blue Tang... He's all Yugioh... right? right?
Right???
great, fellow marincess enthusiast:D
@@poro9084 nah deck isn’t for me dawg. It’s the only card that fit the acronym.
@poro9084 Marincess Blue Tang is a niche meme, so I get why you wouldn't have seen it. Btw, it is the most popular choice when it comes to saying his "acronym" for his name.
It's the MBT OF THE SEA
"-2: Choose a permanent from the top 3 and bin the rest" reading as a better "0: Brainstorm" where fetchlands are available sure is one of the takes of all time
This was like watching a bad AA sponsor talking an old friend how fun the new parties are.
Dude it’s so fun!!
I sure hope you showed him a card in WHITE! (Before the video)
I did!
As well you should have lol@@TheOneJameYT
@@meisterschwert5565live MBT reaction to white (he can't stop saying the c word)
@@Edge-xy3fvDon't ever talk about Max C again
"If anything ruined Magic, it was the end of Type 1.5."
Bruh I felt that in my soul lmao
ah yes, monobluetron
I love MBT as a guest. It's fun to have someone get this half-context and I find those "HE IS SO CLOSE!" moments with Indominatable Creativity a lot of fun.
One important thing to note with Planeswalkers in the context of current Magic however is the way removal is handled currently. Blue has 2 Mana Drains in No More Lies and Make Disappear. Should a prominent Planeswalker ever arise again then Black can easily just Bitter Downfall it and if a Planeswalker doesn't affect the board vs. the red decks it will just get run over or ignored. Its why The Wandering Emperor and Kaito Shizuki are like the two Planeswalkers that see consistent play. They are easily able to force 2 effect activations before dying.
It's funny MBT arrived at Amalia being playable by comparing it to Merfolk Branchwalker and reasoning that if the latter was playable the former was as well without ever touching on the fact that the reason Branchwalker was playable in standard was as part of a package involving Wildgrowth Walker (and ultimately a large part of Amalia's playability is owed to its synergy with WW as well)
Yep! Bring me back to those days WotC
To be fair MTB isn't good at YGO, why would ever think he's good at a real card game?
After lotr released wrenn was completely busted in alchemy, games were much slower due to the prevalence of bowmaster and any way to draw cards that got around bowmasters became extremely valuable as well. Wrenn fits very well into exactly that scenario not to mention that the other greatest card ever to be printed, delighted halfling, forced you into wrenns color anyway. Most games wouldnt see a wrenn ulti but many matchups, especially the mirror, did get to them reasonably often.
Wait, MBT doesn't stand for Marincess Blue Tang?!?!
EDIT: Pendulum Players and Amulet Titan players should meet and discuss why their deck is always the best in any format.
Lmaooooo
amulet best deck lesgoooooo
I'm not sure if I should be surprised or not Joseph caught how good Lorien Revealed's islandcycling was. Most MTG players didn't catch that during spoiler season and it wasn't until they played with it that most people caught it
Not following older formats much, I didn't fully understand until Dimir Lurrus in Timeless. It was that deck that showed me "ohhh, I see why Mystic Sanctuary is banned in Modern, this is a 9/10 annoyance to play against"
You're on a roll recently, holy moly! It was funny seeing a Yugituber, of all people, complain about powercreep
Lmao it was a blast
The difference is Yugioh is supposed to have powercreep.
@@mujigantIt's really not, but let's not waste our time on this discussion, shall we?
@@Gabu_ There wouldn't be a discussion anyway, you're just wrong, Yugioh is designed with powercreep in mind, that's a well known irrefutable fact.
@@mujiganttechnically all tcg's are to some extent cuz these cards print money BABYYYY
This was absolutely incredible.
I am always kind of sad, that MBT doesn't do at least a small amount of MtG content, because his thoughts on card games are always incredibly interesting.
If you can get MBT on this channel again, that would be very cool.
I agree!
Jeez
What an actor 🎉
Loved it! Go on his channel. Yugioh has continued to get more and more cracked and I would love for him to show you cards.
I know a ton of yugioh and even show MTG players yugioh cards on this channel 😅
MarincessBlueTang?? he's so charming!
Never thought great white would be a guest!
M Bussy T finally makes a crossover into MTG
Demonic Bargain just reads "remember that broken effect?" but you bought it off Temu.
EDIT: I can't believe that Wrenn and Realmbreaker isn't good, but at the same time if the effects were better...
🤣🤣🤣
If the +1 untapped the land, it probably would be good.
@@neozyxn 100%
The old rule still applies it seems: a Walker needs to immediately impact the board, and/or have a way to protect themself.
one of my fave ones of these youve done. would love to see more people on that know magic but have stopped playing for some time
The discussion in this video makes me think MBT would be well suited to a Magic version of the "Banned Or Not?" video format.
I think he’d know those but it’s worth a try!
@@TheOneJameYT Well, like this one, I was thinking specifically with newer cards. Or possibly whether they're banned in specific formats.
@@dasuberkaiser6 ah ok like Omnath Locus of Creation, etc
Another awesome vid as always! Especially love seeing the Yugioh players guessing Magic!
Got excited seeing the Universe Beyond stuff like Optimus and Lord of The Rings-More of that please!
Also, as you mention, any card can be good in Commander, so I get why it's tough to rate them from that standpoint. However, maybe in future installments, could there be a way to examine more Commander cards or Commander-only format cards?
Perhaps the difference would be what's good/used in EDH vs CEDH?
Thanks again for what you do!
Thanks for the feedback and glad you’re liking the videos!
This was the best one of these videos. The reactions are so much better when the guesser has some amount of context.
I want to see one where a standard or commander player reacts to lesser known legacy cards - like cephalid illusionist or edge of autumn
Really awesome to see MBT talking some magic, I was taught about Magic as a child but ADD brought me into Yugioh (but I never bought in cause I was still in like highschool). Now I've come back to magic because I'm obsessed with mechanics and the melvin stuff, so it tickles my brain seeing MBT talking magic too. Great stuff!
Thanks David!
Now this was amusing. Considering both people understand both games it's just interesting to see thoughts on some cards
So Wrenn's thing is that when they planeswalked the tree they were attached to got disintegrated, that's why it was Six and Seven, those were their 6th and 7th trees. This is Wrenn paired with Realmbreaker.
Love mbt. Binge the History of Yu-Gi-Oh (and Jank)! Hes great fun!
When talking about xenagos interactions with indomitable creativity, idk why it made me really nostalgic for theros block
I don't like YGO but MBT is really funny, his response to Rarran was hilarious and fantastic, I'd watch if he did content I was interested in, glad you had him on, only halfway through but glad he's doing so well. Wish he covered magic still
Hopefully I can get Rarran on the show!
Yeah us yugioh players really lucked out on MBT. We really don't deserve him 😂
Somebody tell MBT that Jund is still a thing, but it plays almost none of the og cards to the point that the version he's familiar with is commonly known as "boomer jund".
Like, Tarmogoyf and Dark Confidant are considered very slow and inefficient in today's meta.
Is Ponza still a thing at all in Modern? I was a diehard Ponza player, but I could easily see it being a deck that just faded away
@@TakeaSwigBro Not really
Wotc generally tries to frustrate lock out effects as much as possible. It is still possible to make stax/land destruction/prison whatever work, but it is not at a competitive level in the modern formats.
Figured we'd be having the Mono Blue Tron player guessing Yugioh. 🤔
🤔
Lowkey I would Love to watch MBT play magic
It would be a blast
Without even watching the video, I can already trust MBT will handle this well(ish).
Dunno how up-to-date he is on MTG since he has since switched to YGO, but hey, he's Joseph Rothchild of the Rothchildean fortune. He can handle it. 💪💪💪💪
MBT plays a game where turns take 15 minutes. He'd be right at home in Commander if he played Hakbal.
MBT was great there, really fun and it was obvious the only thing that threw him off properly was the powercreep, the actual evaluation seemed pretty solid lol
I have been waiting so long for this! MTG is my jam but MBT is my grounded YGO bae that helps me remember my youth.
I was waiting for this one
At the risk of being That Guy, Ormendahl filled in the power vacuum left by Griselbrand, who was one of Liliana's contracted archdemons.
With that nitpick out of the way, it's a lot of fun to see one of these card evaluation videos where the judge does have some grounding in MtG. Thanks to both of you!
The King of The Whites himself! Love MBT and love you too, awesome to see y'all together! ✌️💜
🫡🫡🫡
Came for MBT, stayed for the curiosity. Definitely seems like Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic aren't totally different. I will for sure check out more of your channel 🔥
Love to hear that!
26:16 - This little exchange here perfectly describes when I first got into Magic: Mirrodin (overpowered block) followed by Kamigawa (slamming the brakes but still slipping in one or two ungodly busted cards)
Truly, the more things change, the more they stay the same!
I always thought MBT stands for Marincess Blue Tang
Man when MBT said that the nuke effect of Amalia would probably never happen, idk how you kept your poker face up. I was smiling ear to ear lmao
My brain was smiling ear to ear, laughing, and crying simultaneously
To be fair to MBT, wrenn and realmbreaker isn't bad. It's just that green has been the weakest color in standard since it's been printed, and it's not strong enough to be playing G for by itself. Then conbine that with it being *kinda* a GB card (typically its GBx decks that want a card like WnR), and B has arguably the best 3s in standard?
It would not be hard (and still could happen) for WnR to be an all-star in a deck. It's not bad on rate, just... doesn't line up with the format.
If it untapped the land or got any permanent from the graveyard it would be insane 😅
@@TheOneJameYT well sure, but I'm saying that even as is, it's hardly *bad,* it's just worse than other options in BG decks, and Gx decks besides that don't really exist (at least not the type that want a grindy value card like this).
@@natahliazaring5291 isn’t a bad card almost always considered worse than the alternatives?
@@TheOneJameYT it feels a bit like you're missing what I'm saying. It's worse than the alternatives in BG decks. Other G decks don't exist right now that might want a value 3 drop like this. If they did (or if they do in the future), then WnR could easily see play. It's only a "bad card" in the context of having no home, not in the context of the rate being wrong. Those are two separate things that I think are useful to talk about differently. Cards without a home can easily slot from seeing no play to seeing tons of play with a slight shift. Cards that are bad on rate have little to no chance to see play.
No way
My friend just got me into magic and I’ve been playing yugioh for a while now, great to see this from one of my favorite yugioh creators
I’d love if individual yugioh card reviews came back. I don’t hate the archetype review format, but they just feel way too long to get through
Also having some cards out of context can be funny.
I have sprinkled a few of them in but I can do more
@@TheOneJameYT yeah more individual card reviews would be great
Joseph's joy at figuring out the amalia combo gives me life lol
I know I'm super late here (just came across on the feed) but with Demonic Bargain I immediately thought of comparisons to Grim Tutor. It's most assuredly the better card for 3cmc and would make for an easy conclusion, but that card just so happens to fall outside the time period MBT is familiar with (Starter 1999/Core Set 2021). Loved the dynamic between you two. Good video!
I made sure to pick cards outside his frame of reference, happy you liked it! (another one with MBT coming soon)
I was about to say, "How could MBT not know about landcycling" before I remembered he was in magic between 2006-2016. For note, [land]cycling first appeared in Onslaught Block which I then remembered was in 2002.
Still appeared prominently in Alara Block
I am glad that Wrenn wasn't as strong as MBT hoped because that makes it less expensive for me to use in my commander deck, 5c color fixing moment
But it does speak a lot of volume on power creep.
In standard, I think Amalia is good enough to see play in a white-black lifegain deck even without wildgrowth walker. From that, I'd argue that MBT is right that Amalia is a good card even if you never trigger the destruction ability. Of course, wildgrowth walker takes this from a good-decent card to a game winning combo piece.
Yep! I play her in my orzhov lifegain deck in standard and she’s great
Wow Indomitable creativity has such a beautiful artwork holy shit😮😮😮
It really does
The funny part about amulet titan is that as long as it has amulet and titan it’ll still work.
wren in a dryad that makes a symbiotic relationship with a tree host and they name the trees with a number based on the order they fuse with them so wren and six is the sixth tree seven is the seventh and realmbreaker being a big important tree in the lore is technically Eight If anyone was curious about that stuff.
YO MBT THIS IS THE HYPEST EPISODE!!!!!
Both of your mics are so good that without background music the silent moments are like listening to the void
Maybe I should put background music in there
@TheOneJameYT It's all good content, it's just something I noticed with my sleep deprived brain at 4:30 am lol
Lorien Revealed is a part of a common landcycling cycle in LoTR but it's the only one that isn't a creature. The other 4 are creatures. Pretty sure it was intentional to make Living End not get a powerful blue creature that can find an Island and pitch to Force of Negation and Subtlety.
Yea that sounds like the case for sure
i think its unfair to say lili isnt being played in standard, because the deck she was played in got banned out of existence, and even then some control decks still mb lili
The reaction to Wrenn was gold. "Oh its a planeswalker, so it must be busted." And then it turns out that Wrenn and Realmsbreaker is basically unplayable outside of commander.
Indomitable creativity is really similar to lor's sugary snare and played exactly the same with a deck with only 1 actual target and cards that created creatures
Indomitable Creativity is really good with Encroaching Mycosynth simply because Encroaching Mycosynth turns all the things you own in your library and all other zones into artifacts so if you pump a lot of mana and have enough to sac you can just put all your permanents into play
Petition to have mbt quiz Jame on yugioh!
Loved the video and keep em coming!
Hope he wants to make another one!
Wrenn and Realmbreaker isn't "really bad", it's very medium. I just looked it up and it's done a few things, but doesn't see a ton of play. I think calling it really bad is underselling it a lot
If it sees seldom play I don’t think I could say it’s a good card but yea it might’ve been a stretch to say it’s really bad
@@TheOneJameYT I agree I wouldn't call it "good". I'd say it's like a 3/5 card, just beaten out by better stuff.
@@pumkinswift8263 which when you think about it is kinda terrifying 😅
Joseph being surprised at MTG powercreep as if yugioh hasn't had 2 tier-0 decks in the last 2 years is so funny
I can't wait to see the reverse video where MBT shows you the level 1 Fire deck.
I know about that, I had an MTG player rate the fire deck a video or 2 ago
I CAN FETCH FOR MYSTIC SANCTUARY? 🤯🤯 I never even noticed! Now i feel stupid! 😅
This makes me
So happy
First vid of yours I watched, I'm the weird demographic that only plays MtG but also watches MBT... so this was a good time 😊
I love Demonic Bargain as a pick here, because in Yu-Gi-Oh it would be crazy, but in Magic it's just okay. Really highlights the gap between design principle between the games, and I love that.
13:10 I think the other important thing of note here as well is that in Yu-Gi-Oh, searching ANY card give you a way to crack open the entire turn because YGO's resource system is fucked. In the case of THIS card, you're spending three mana to pick up a card you'll probably still have to pay the costs of the card you search so you're really not seeing use out of this card as early as you need in the faster-paced formats like vintage or legacy where there are better alternatives already. The only possible way this card could see play is if you exile some insane card that benefits you from being exiled, but being mill that's still a crapshoot too.
love the videos!
Thanks John!
I'm glad the last deck I played was mirari's wake back in 7'th I managed to dodge all the power creep.
I doubt he'll see this explanation but Wrenn is the planeswalker who binds to trees and she just numbers them, till she gets to the actual named tree Realmbreaker
got the commercial break a second after you said wrenn and realmbreaker was bad. At least the commercial break didn't keep me waiting.
Planned 😎
@@TheOneJameYT you did feature a creature magic that is listed as a god. It was divine intervention the commercial was short
loved the video, its great.
Thanks!
I can’t believe you didn’t break his heart and inform him Mindsculpter is bad now.
I should’ve
10:56 Ormendahl isn't one of Liliana's demons (which are Kothophed, Griselbrand, Razaketh, and Belzenlok). Most likely MBT remembers Ormendahl from Westvale Abbey (which would have been out when he was playing) and forgot where he knew the name from.
What's crackin
Yo!
Fetchlands :P
I really liked the time capsule takes.
MBT: Ormendahl that's the liliana demon guy!
Griselbrand: Am I a joke to you?
Wrenn is a dryad that takes willing trees on adventures in the blind eternities
You gotta invite the champ him self, Mr Josh Schmidty
He hasn’t answered me yet 🫡
@@TheOneJameYTwish the best of luck in getting him still 💯