This takes me back...my sister and I were involved in gymnastics as kids and this was basically "our" Olympics at that age. We taped this off the TV and watched it 500 times...I remember a lot of the exact routines and even comments
silivas opening with a double twisting double tuck is amazing! People still win medals at big comps and open with this pass. Also let’s talk about her technique in the air😍
@@unknownuser-r5o they did? Is it on video? I’d like to see their efforts in completing that tumble- for comparison to see who had the best form. Still crazy to think they could do that on so much less cushioning on the floor.
This was the most exciting Olympics for me! Just gorgeous artistry and execution that is long gone from a sport that used to be so exciting and elegant! Silivas and Elena were just fantastic!
@@beautitudes It did until 1989... What difference does that make anyway? Don't get me wrong, I think the USA girls deserved the bronze, but the fact the east Germans were from a country that no longer exists should not be a factor here.
@QPHashSS77 Kersten was the most overscored East German. She was treated like a star when she was really past her prime and peaked in 85. Thuemler was better than her and got lower scores. Thuemler's scores were about right but Kersten's should have been brought down to the same or lower than Thuemler across the board, and of course fell on beam.. Worst was Kersten's vaulting which sucked badly and regularly got 9.90+. With their depleted team due to injury and only 5 gymnasts, and now counting some falls, Kersten's scores dropped drop them to 5th, even with the U.S bogus political deduction.
I've often wondered what Aurelia Dobre may have been capable of at this meet had she not been injured. That's one nasty looking scar. Credit to her for competing injured and I'm sure she was in a lot of discomfort. At least she got to be part of the team competition and win a silver.
@saragrant9749 She injured her knee prior to the games... she hadnt been able to train to the level she needed to due to the recovery, so she wasnt anywhere near her best.
@@mikeg8375 oh wow, ouch!! I’ve known a few people who did that and it’s such a painful healing process. My respect to her for doing all she was able to do in spite, but you’re right- what could have been.
I like Brandy Johnson´s choreo towards the finish of her floor (from 11:55 to the end of the exercise) - the music and the attitude fit perfectly, it was her "diva" moment and she really expressed herself. She belonged to the event finals.
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It is ironic Kersten did not get a 10 for her optional bars here which was way better than her bar routine in the event finals. It also cost her the gold in the end, since she got a gift 10 in the event finals with a hop on the landing.
Was there a longer broadcast? I feel like this was a just recap of some routines. The commentators silly obsession with pointing out the ‘three 15 year olds” when Kelly Garrison was one of the top three highest scoring on the team. Even as an ancient 21 year old
1988 Seoul Olympics really witnessed the pique of the Soviet and other Eastern European nations (such Romania, GDR, Bulgaria, Hungary and so on) sports.
@@stanm1977 I’m referring to the SOVIETS in this case. Since you asked however, there’s absolutely no question that Romania got plenty of gifts in the first several years after the Soviet Union was gone. Don’t think so? Look at some of the medals earned between 1996 and 2000 that did not in any way belong to a Romanian athlete. Esther Moya of Spain is a prime example- she should have gotten bronze on floor in Sydney, not Simona Amanar… WHO STEPPED OUT OF BOUNDS!!
I've always wondered about compulsories. Did they get the routines 8n advance, before the olympics? Did they get them the day before, a month before, when they first arrived? I was too little to remember anything, but I've always been curious.
i really under appreciated yelena sushonova in my youth,, i found her old and boring in my teenage mind ... but looking now at her floor routine - just amazing, her expression even beats that of svetlana bouganskia ..
what i want to know is, the gymnasts in these older videos, if they look at the changes in the sport - like here, the bars were so much closer - i wonder if they wish they'd been competing in todays times instead ...? if they wonder just how much more possibilities there would have been had todays equipment been in their era?
I doubt they care so much about the apparatuses, but I'm sure they probably wish they'd had the coaching of today. Coaches back then were often very abusive, mentally and emotionally, and they also pushed the girls' bodies too far, sometimes even resulting in paralysis or other permanent injury (Elena Mukhina was the saddest example of this.) Girls were weighed regularly and their meals were controlled, which led to many developing eating disorders. Not only have coaches as a whole gotten less abusive, but they've also learned many many better techniques for teaching the same skills but in a way that doesn't hurt the gymnasts bodies as much. This is why it's becoming fairly commonplace now to see gymnasts competing into their twenties, whereas back then their bodies usually couldn't take it for more than one Olympic cycle or two Olympics at most (Chusovitina was a unicorn.) The girls were usually forced to quit by the time they were 18 or 20. So if they have any regrets about competing then versus now, I'm sure the apparatus is not at the top of their list.
@@leykimayri You seem to have difficulty understanding the concept of "less". I'll try to explain, but it's really on you to try to learn what it means. One would think if you're able to write that you should already have a grasp on it, but apparently it's something you still struggle with. "Less" does not mean "no" or "none". Less is somewhere in between the former amount and "none," but in no circumstances does it mean "none." If you have 50 bananas and you eat one, you have "less" (or fewer, technically) than you had before, but you still have a lot of bananas. Does that make sense to you? If it doesn't, I'm sure there are some Sesame Street videos out there that explain it more.
@@AdeleiTeillana Yes because it is PROVEN that all coaches back then were abusive while now they are less abusive, huh….because you say so? Like you know very well what’s happening right now in Russia? Shushunova died 5 years ago and all we heard from Russia was that “she died from pneumonia”, because Russians were hiding very well alcoholic problems that Shushunova had had for years and who knows what else and we were all just amazed and so surprised about her sudden death when it was a common secret in Russia that things weren’t going well in her life…but you seem to know very well what is happening in Russian gymnastics nowadays compared to the ‘80s, right? Or you seem to know very well what happens in other countries like China, for instance, and you have proof that today’s coaches are LESS abusive than back then, based on what? On your STUΡΙDITY? Especially considering the fact that in countries like the US there has been such a major ABUSE and RAPE scandal that gymnasts who still perform today have lived and survived through it (ex Biles). So take your stupidity and stick it up in your big αss and stfυ. If such and abuse and such a scandal could have been happening FOR DECADES in the r US where there is freedom of the Press and it’s not any autocratic regime but it’s a democracy where people have rights, imagine what is happening right now in countries where people don’t have the freedoms and liberties and rights that people in western countries have. So next time you make stυρid claims make sure to USE your brain first to think, especially when those “claims” are only based on your stυpidity and on NO FACTS.
@@laob4901 I clearly stated in my comment that it was an Anerican broadcast...why do you feel the need to be so nasty and disrepectful? Your comment says a lot about you!
Yet it is the same in reverse today. Some routines performed by a U.S girl sometimes (I am talking about Biles on vault or floor type thing of course) would never get some of the scores they get if they were from anywhere else. It is reputation, has been part of the sport then and still is now. Or Kim never wins the 91 world AA title in 91 if it is held in any country but the U.S but I am taking a wild guess you never complained about that either.
@@mikeg4576 Yes East Germany had a thrash team this year. They only had Kersten and Tuemmler and Tuemmler was way weaker than the 87 worlds and Kersten was inconsistent and past her prime. Not only the U.S but Bulgaria should have beaten them. Bulgaria actually had a possible case for the bronze this year too.
I prefer today because they are not forced to fit into a specific body image mold, and are instead allowed to be themselves. These poor girls in many cases were horribly abused without the ability of today to STOP IT and get undeserved coaches booted out.
I think 🤔 we wondered what her injury was - was it her foot, knee or backside? When slow motion replay is shown, it can help determine how the injury happened.
yo I just came came from soviet memes lol I wasn't taking serious at starting but when they do their thing I fell in love with their moves they be like women version of unbitten spiderman they also gained my respect for their hardwork I dont even know how they train how many hours they train in a day but u need crayz muscle memory to do this moves I guess and muscle memory comes with lots of train
It's so annoying listening to Dick blathering on about the 0.5 technical deduction. That's not why they lost the bronze, Dick, they lost because of the falls which screwed up the momentum of scoring and the fact that virtually no one stuck their landings. That adds up to a lot more than 0.5 points.
Idk. I see your point, but you cant deny that the .5 deduction mathmatically cost them bronze. I think the real problem was the way the rule was interpreted, it was pretty obviously a political thing. If it were really about the safety of the athlete, they would have given a warning. It was a cheap shot.
The thing that cost them bronze was POLITICS. The East Germans received grossly inflated scores on beam- something a lot of people have remarked about. It’s a reflection of the eastern bloc fashion of scoring that was popular then.
Anyone else creeped out at 0:27 when Dick Enberg called them “an attractive group of young women?” Edit: This might become a trend... “great eyes” 7:05 🤢
This takes me back...my sister and I were involved in gymnastics as kids and this was basically "our" Olympics at that age. We taped this off the TV and watched it 500 times...I remember a lot of the exact routines and even comments
silivas opening with a double twisting double tuck is amazing! People still win medals at big comps and open with this pass. Also let’s talk about her technique in the air😍
I’d never realized she actually was the originator of that tumble. Pretty crazy when you consider how much LESS cushioning the floor had then.
@@saragrant9749Aleftina Priakhina and Svetlana Boguinskaya did it first
@@unknownuser-r5o they did? Is it on video? I’d like to see their efforts in completing that tumble- for comparison to see who had the best form. Still crazy to think they could do that on so much less cushioning on the floor.
@@saragrant9749 yes. Just search for Aleftina Priakhina and Svetlana Boguinskaya double double. Both did better than Silivas
@@saragrant9749 I know and people who say that gymnastics now is harder should bear that in mind.
RIP Elena Shushanova 😢
forever Shushunouva ten
R.I.P #YelenaShushonova
@@mausibat6148 just crazy how life can turn. She accomplished greatness though.
@@mariagoyan7916 LOL
@@saragrant9749 She was lucky,,,,didn't really accomplish anything
This was the most exciting Olympics for me! Just gorgeous artistry and execution that is long gone from a sport that used to be so exciting and elegant! Silivas and Elena were just fantastic!
USA girls got a raw deal here. In addition to the .5 penalty, the East Germans were overscored, especially on beam.
I feel they should give them the bronze still. Especially since East Germany doesn’t even exist
@@beautitudes It did until 1989... What difference does that make anyway? Don't get me wrong, I think the USA girls deserved the bronze, but the fact the east Germans were from a country that no longer exists should not be a factor here.
@QPHashSS77 Kersten was the most overscored East German. She was treated like a star when she was really past her prime and peaked in 85. Thuemler was better than her and got lower scores. Thuemler's scores were about right but Kersten's should have been brought down to the same or lower than Thuemler across the board, and of course fell on beam.. Worst was Kersten's vaulting which sucked badly and regularly got 9.90+. With their depleted team due to injury and only 5 gymnasts, and now counting some falls, Kersten's scores dropped drop them to 5th, even with the U.S bogus political deduction.
They would’ve gotten bronze if it wasn’t for that deduction.😕
That’s how it was back then- the judges were in the pockets of certain countries. Most of the results back then were disgustingly tainted.
I've often wondered what Aurelia Dobre may have been capable of at this meet had she not been injured. That's one nasty looking scar. Credit to her for competing injured and I'm sure she was in a lot of discomfort. At least she got to be part of the team competition and win a silver.
What exactly was wrong with her, I still haven’t picked up on what was actually going on?
@saragrant9749 She injured her knee prior to the games... she hadnt been able to train to the level she needed to due to the recovery, so she wasnt anywhere near her best.
@@mikeg8375 oh wow, ouch!! I’ve known a few people who did that and it’s such a painful healing process. My respect to her for doing all she was able to do in spite, but you’re right- what could have been.
Excellent video and gymnastics!
Except for that fake group hug at the end. So phony! Team USA really hid their true feelings well with that hug.
I like Brandy Johnson´s choreo towards the finish of her floor (from 11:55 to the end of the exercise) - the music and the attitude fit perfectly, it was her "diva" moment and she really expressed herself. She belonged to the event finals.
These gymnasts are my favorite
Also the ones from the 70s. All amazing.
8:26 omg thought I was about to see a wolf turn. Gosh I miss this gymnastics. The artistry is amazing
DANIELA SILIVAS. 👍👍👍
Great competition these games, especially between Shushanova and Silivas
Thank you!!! ☆
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A magical olympics
It is ironic Kersten did not get a 10 for her optional bars here which was way better than her bar routine in the event finals. It also cost her the gold in the end, since she got a gift 10 in the event finals with a hop on the landing.
Was there a longer broadcast? I feel like this was a just recap of some routines. The commentators silly obsession with pointing out the ‘three 15 year olds” when Kelly Garrison was one of the top three highest scoring on the team. Even as an ancient 21 year old
Daniela Silivaș la paralele pe melodie românească. Frumoasa potrivire!
1988 Seoul Olympics really witnessed the pique of the Soviet and other Eastern European nations (such Romania, GDR, Bulgaria, Hungary and so on) sports.
And the abuse
And the scoring bias.
@@saragrant9749 Do you really think that Romania got benefits from judges? Like ever? Really?
@@stanm1977 I’m referring to the SOVIETS in this case. Since you asked however, there’s absolutely no question that Romania got plenty of gifts in the first several years after the Soviet Union was gone. Don’t think so? Look at some of the medals earned between 1996 and 2000 that did not in any way belong to a Romanian athlete. Esther Moya of Spain is a prime example- she should have gotten bronze on floor in Sydney, not Simona Amanar… WHO STEPPED OUT OF BOUNDS!!
@@saragrant9749hahahaha cry us a fucking river
Dang. Baitova throwing a DTY in 1988.
I loved the way they scored gymnastics and you were able to see everyones score and u can get a 10
I've always wondered about compulsories. Did they get the routines 8n advance, before the olympics? Did they get them the day before, a month before, when they first arrived? I was too little to remember anything, but I've always been curious.
The compulsories are determined months in advance. So the coaches and gymnasts have time to learn and perfect the skills.
Do you think you'll be able to upload the 1992 Olympics womens all around Final - complete NBC again? 😁🙏
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/fRkumzvlEK0/w-d-xo.html
@@kentiemacgymnastics9885
Thank you!!!! 🥺
i really under appreciated yelena sushonova in my youth,, i found her old and boring in my teenage mind ... but looking now at her floor routine - just amazing, her expression even beats that of svetlana bouganskia ..
She was only 19;here.
@@gillydey9764Looked like a woman of 50. Those hairstyles, man...
And she had the best splits on the beam.
I love this video. Now I know that coincidence and unicorns are definitely only seen in Disney world.
Daniela Silivas ❤ FANTASTICA!❤
Gimnastele sovietice si cele din Romania au fost din altă galaxie!❤ Au fost multi ani in varf, in top si au facut artă! Bravo lor! ❤
I really really miss them 😍
what i want to know is, the gymnasts in these older videos, if they look at the changes in the sport - like here, the bars were so much closer - i wonder if they wish they'd been competing in todays times instead ...? if they wonder just how much more possibilities there would have been had todays equipment been in their era?
I doubt they care so much about the apparatuses, but I'm sure they probably wish they'd had the coaching of today. Coaches back then were often very abusive, mentally and emotionally, and they also pushed the girls' bodies too far, sometimes even resulting in paralysis or other permanent injury (Elena Mukhina was the saddest example of this.) Girls were weighed regularly and their meals were controlled, which led to many developing eating disorders. Not only have coaches as a whole gotten less abusive, but they've also learned many many better techniques for teaching the same skills but in a way that doesn't hurt the gymnasts bodies as much. This is why it's becoming fairly commonplace now to see gymnasts competing into their twenties, whereas back then their bodies usually couldn't take it for more than one Olympic cycle or two Olympics at most (Chusovitina was a unicorn.) The girls were usually forced to quit by the time they were 18 or 20. So if they have any regrets about competing then versus now, I'm sure the apparatus is not at the top of their list.
@@AdeleiTeillana Yes because there was no abuse and even rape in US gymnastics like 5 years ago....oh wait!
@@leykimayri You seem to have difficulty understanding the concept of "less". I'll try to explain, but it's really on you to try to learn what it means. One would think if you're able to write that you should already have a grasp on it, but apparently it's something you still struggle with. "Less" does not mean "no" or "none". Less is somewhere in between the former amount and "none," but in no circumstances does it mean "none." If you have 50 bananas and you eat one, you have "less" (or fewer, technically) than you had before, but you still have a lot of bananas. Does that make sense to you? If it doesn't, I'm sure there are some Sesame Street videos out there that explain it more.
@@AdeleiTeillana Yes because it is PROVEN that all coaches back then were abusive while now they are less abusive, huh….because you say so? Like you know very well what’s happening right now in Russia? Shushunova died 5 years ago and all we heard from Russia was that “she died from pneumonia”, because Russians were hiding very well alcoholic problems that Shushunova had had for years and who knows what else and we were all just amazed and so surprised about her sudden death when it was a common secret in Russia that things weren’t going well in her life…but you seem to know very well what is happening in Russian gymnastics nowadays compared to the ‘80s, right? Or you seem to know very well what happens in other countries like China, for instance, and you have proof that today’s coaches are LESS abusive than back then, based on what? On your STUΡΙDITY? Especially considering the fact that in countries like the US there has been such a major ABUSE and RAPE scandal that gymnasts who still perform today have lived and survived through it (ex Biles). So take your stupidity and stick it up in your big αss and stfυ. If such and abuse and such a scandal could have been happening FOR DECADES in the r US where there is freedom of the Press and it’s not any autocratic regime but it’s a democracy where people have rights, imagine what is happening right now in countries where people don’t have the freedoms and liberties and rights that people in western countries have. So next time you make stυρid claims make sure to USE your brain first to think, especially when those “claims” are only based on your stυpidity and on NO FACTS.
No trouble to tell this was an American broadcast since all the focus is on the Americans 😩
Of course it's an American broadcast... are you stupid??
and they very much overate their abilities lol
that we had to watch brandy Johnson on floor do a less that stellar floor routine instead of silvas' bars routine that scored a 10!!!!!
@@laob4901 I clearly stated in my comment that it was an Anerican broadcast...why do you feel the need to be so nasty and disrepectful? Your comment says a lot about you!
@@markb7163 cause ur comment made all of youtube feel stupid. What should they focus on the USSR
Daniela silivas❤super star😮😮😮❤
If a gymnast from the USSR, Romania, or GDR had performed the vault Hope Spivey did at 22:47, it would have been a 10.0. Hope only got an 9.85.
They were very harsh on the USA girls on vault, beam too. Yet look at the mistakes the East Germans made on beam and the scores they got. Shameful!
Yet it is the same in reverse today. Some routines performed by a U.S girl sometimes (I am talking about Biles on vault or floor type thing of course) would never get some of the scores they get if they were from anywhere else. It is reputation, has been part of the sport then and still is now. Or Kim never wins the 91 world AA title in 91 if it is held in any country but the U.S but I am taking a wild guess you never complained about that either.
@@mikeg4576 Yes East Germany had a thrash team this year. They only had Kersten and Tuemmler and Tuemmler was way weaker than the 87 worlds and Kersten was inconsistent and past her prime. Not only the U.S but Bulgaria should have beaten them. Bulgaria actually had a possible case for the bronze this year too.
@@milkybum6339 Bulgarians were robbed too especially on floor.
I don't like the gymnasts today there not as graceful like back then
very true
Agree. There is no grace now. I don’t blame the gymnasts. I blame the new codes
I prefer today because they are not forced to fit into a specific body image mold, and are instead allowed to be themselves. These poor girls in many cases were horribly abused without the ability of today to STOP IT and get undeserved coaches booted out.
Watching the 2 small boxes are stupid why can't they show 1at a time and just replay the other
I totally agree!
Awfull to show several times Strazheva fall on beam. But very interesting video, thank you for uploading
And Dobre’s scar !
I think 🤔 we wondered what her injury was - was it her foot, knee or backside? When slow motion replay is shown, it can help determine how the injury happened.
I don't miss Dick Enberg at all.
I wonder if someone like Simone biles could even vault on that more narrow horse . Today's vault is a vaulting table.
HAHA the old guy says “Nadia Romanich” instead of Comaneci
I hate how this commentator says 'Soviettes'
I wanted to see usa on the floor they kept missing half of it and then put another event from another team on I hate that
Dick Enberg is so sleazy.
He is! He also has his face right in Mary Lou’s in that clip 🤮
Mary Lou’s contribution to commentary gets a 0
They’re not letting her talk obviously.
Um hello, can you men shhhh for two minutes and allow Mary Lou to contribute?!
Romania❤10❤10❤10❤😮😮10❤romancelor❤felicitari❤respect❤10romancele❤😮😮😮😮😮
yo I just came came from soviet memes lol I wasn't taking serious at starting but when they do their thing I fell in love with their moves they be like women version of unbitten spiderman they also gained my respect for their hardwork I dont even know how they train how many hours they train in a day but u need crayz muscle memory to do this moves I guess and muscle memory comes with lots of train
Și gimnastele din rusia❤10❤10❤10multe rusoaice erau mari staruri😮😮😮la gimnastica❤❤felicitari❤😮❤
Usa❤usa❤😮10❤usa❤10😮😮10😮❤usa10❤😊😅😮❤
It's so annoying listening to Dick blathering on about the 0.5 technical deduction. That's not why they lost the bronze, Dick, they lost because of the falls which screwed up the momentum of scoring and the fact that virtually no one stuck their landings. That adds up to a lot more than 0.5 points.
Idk. I see your point, but you cant deny that the .5 deduction mathmatically cost them bronze. I think the real problem was the way the rule was interpreted, it was pretty obviously a political thing. If it were really about the safety of the athlete, they would have given a warning. It was a cheap shot.
The thing that cost them bronze was POLITICS. The East Germans received grossly inflated scores on beam- something a lot of people have remarked about. It’s a reflection of the eastern bloc fashion of scoring that was popular then.
The voice of Mary Lou retton... Like a rich spoiled girl
She sucked as a commentator. It's no wonder NBC never used her again.
And@@mikeg8375, she was rather young at 20 or 21.
Who are the Americans?? No names.
No names who performed admirably despite their inexperience. They should have walked away with bronze.
Exactly@@mikeg8375. Thanks for NOTHING, Rhonda Faehn!!!
@@pinedelgado4743no, thank the JUDGES who gave the East Germans highly inflated beam scores in particular.
@@pinedelgado4743 and the judges who greatly overscored the East Germans- especially on beam!! Eastern bloc judging at its best.
Double full off beam at olympics? Really?😂
Suni Lee won the all around in Tokyo with it.
Bulgaria and USA were so much better than GDR. Honestly even China was better. GDR should be in 5th or 6th.
Bulgaria or USA should have got the bronze. GDR never.
46:20 Wow, someone bring THAT back. So pretty. And 46:57 omg so cool.
Anyone else creeped out at 0:27 when Dick Enberg called them “an attractive group of young women?”
Edit: This might become a trend...
“great eyes” 7:05 🤢
Почему дурачок за микрофоном смеётся при произношении фамилии Баитова?
Cause he's a real idiot. 😅