Rewards for difficulty only results in less artistry, and a ton of injuries for the athlete's. Have you ever seen so many shoulder injuries before in WAG!
Of the gymnasts of that truly artistic gymnastics era, i rewatch and am most impressed by Olga Korbut and Daniela Silivas. Their charisma, naturalness and enjoyment,combined with power and precision ,for me, will forever trump any overpowered, thickly muscled somewhat graceless acrobatics which is today's style.
Such a beautiful technician and dancer. Dance ability light years ahead of most today, with poise, musicality and flair (and top drawer difficulty on all apparatus for her time as well). Her line, shown especially well on the bars, was one of the very best during the time she competed. A fabulous gymnast, who should be celebrated for her fantastic talent and all her achievements.
Nu ma satur,sa privesc,aceasta fetita cu codita cata voioșie și cata perfecțiune.....Daniela Silivas! Mare fenomen.Doamne! Câte gimnaste fenomen a dat tara noastră! Felicitări!❤ Super! Doamne ajuta ! Sa mai avem... Sunt : drăguțe,, zglobii pline de talent și viata..❤❤❤❤ Felicitari! fetelor.Mult noroc! În viețile voastre!❤
Așa ceva este un sol impresionant,nu solul făcut de americance,iar Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea ,au făcut solul foarte bun, față de americancele,care au avut exerciții de, fără grație, gingășia feminină eleganță, rafinament ritmicitate, făcute de fetele noastre de aur, Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea.🌹🌹🥀💐🌞🌞♥️♥️🥰💯💯🤗🇷🇴☮️🇹🇩🙏💓💝❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nunca más hubieron gimnastas como estas de fines de los 80. Daniela además de ser una extraordinaria gimnasta, era una magnífica bailarina. Cada detalle, hasta el movimiento de las manos demuestran la.enseñanza de la danza clásica.
What can you say? She is grace and joy and perfection. Now the floor exercise is just boring long tumbles. I dont see joy in performing now. Thats a shame.
Nothing will beat the drama and show of the 1988 Olympics... The individual finals, omg. With sikuvas and shushaniva, one 10 after another...and the incredibly different styles of the two gymnasts couldn't be further apart, which made it more awesome
Totally agree. Best ever floor compulsory imo, Podkopayeva in 1996 second. Just unmatched. I firmly believe that she was the worthy winner of the floor event gold medal because of that compulsory routine. No one came close.
Também acho, me lembro dela quando eu era criança e fiquei encantada, ela tem uma aura delicada e pleno domínio das habilidades da ginástica artística. Não me canso de vê-la.
Dance artistry, where gymnasts showed graceful moves in time with the music, and showed emotion, feeling - not there today. More emphasis on difficulty has meant routines are dominated wirh skills as opposed to the original intent of floor routines
@@sallydaniel1023 maybe they could introduce a 5th event - separate tumbling to have it separate, or create a second floor event where dance and artistry are more heavily favoured....
Yes yes yes. I find routines today without the soul of the past. Tourischeva's coach Rastorotsky said that choreography, dance and artistry was critical to the presentation of the routine, and difficulty in the gymnastic elements performed should work in harmony with the artistic presentation. He said that each gymnast had something unique to present to the judges, and that is her artistry - difficulty should supplement that. I feel that has been lost now - in order to do well, gymnasts must show difficulty that has not necessarily been mastered. The choppy choreography and 'hard' leaps/spins detract from the overall gymnastic experience, in my opinion.
@@sallydaniel1023 actually, better plan woudl be to bring back compulasries, even if its just for beam and floor. gymnasts could pic which event they want to add, only do one of them even.
Exquisita! Espectacular! Una de mis gimnastas favoritas después de NADIA, y para mí la mejor de los 80! DANIELA conjuga elegancia, gracia, potencia, totalidad y amplitud en la ejecución del movimiento, y además es una excelente bailarina! Es de las pocas ejecutantes que logra conectarse con el auditorio por su gran carisma,y una de las grandes leyendas de la Escuela Rumana, con ese indiscutible sello de excelencia! GRACIAS SIEMPRE POR TU TALENTO Y APORTES DANIELA SILIVAS!👏👏👏❤️👑
Her 87 and 88 routines are still some of the best routines in gymnastics history. By 89 she said she'd lost some of her motivation, but she was still great!!
@@cecilianovais212 back then that was the average age to retire. Also revolution took place in Romania and everything was messy. Her head coaches left the country too.
@@yuiop6611 it is now, yes - you’re right, but my point was television commentators in ‘85 called it “two (passes) in one” or at least the versions I watched called it that
Remember when amplitude was rewarded? My understanding is current GOP gives same points for doing crappy, but completed skill, as someone who does it masterfully with amplitude.
Ce valori?Monumentale! .....în gimnastica României.Felicitari!Super ! Bravo! Daniela Silivas.Ai strălucit ca un diamant! (Părea ca te joci......Dar,munca era pe masura)❤❤❤❤❤❤
When there were less rules to worry about, there was more artistry. Now gymnasts have to accumulate points rather than tell a story. It’s not any specific gymnast’s fault, rather the scoring system and what has evolved over time.
The Table of Content Titles are somewhat out-of-sync with the actual routines. That being said, I personally prefer the 3rd routine, which looks to have been from the 87 Europeans in Moscow. I think that the combination of the tumbling, choreography/dance, execution, and music choice made it her best routine - and that is really saying something because ALL of her routines were GREAT!
Her tourines are fo exquisite and from such a young age! Lovely and superb gymnasts one in a generation, she has it all, accuracy, musicality, grace, flexibility and acro, and fun! all perfect❤
13:38 So professional gymnastics is a lower level? The concept doesn't make sense. The best aren't pro. They only go pro when they're washed up? Very odd. What they talked about didn't materialize.
I often wondered why she didn’t try for Barcelona, she certainly had the chops still to challenge for a gold in many events. It certainly is true though that she’d been at it for a long while- especially in that era with far less padding and give to the apparatus. She still had an amazing career though!
When you said signature move, I immediately thought of the the hoedown from her 85 routine 😭. I refer to her signature move by the name of its true inventor, the Pryakhina 🙏
I don't think she was ever trained by Belu, who had already defected to the US. Her head coach was Adrian Goreac who defected in the revolution and was taken over by Bellu.
tricks generally weren't as difficult then as some of them are now when Daniela was competing the highest difficulty rating was D-E in some its up to I or J now
Одно и тоже прыгает и тело ребенка,нет гимнастика это когда выступали в 70х,80х советские девушки и другие,очень элегантно,а детское тело это даже не смотрится.Хорошо что на Олимпиаде 1988 победила Шушунова она смотрелась лучше,а Силиваш потом брала золото на снарядах,но у нее была досада что она не стала абсолютной чемпионкой,и до следующей Олимпиады в 1992 году увы не дошла
Nadia was perfect but was never considered the most artistic, I need to side with Silivas here (moreso later in her career) as being more artistic than Nadia.
@@worldartgym even Dobre was one of those gymnast that had the it factor, also her level of virtuosity and artistic expression were incredible. In my book Silivas and Dobre were as talented as Comaneci, too bad Dobre was injured in 1988.
@@worldartgym But what is it to be perfect after all? I mean, Comaneci was AMAZING, don't get me wrong, but I can name a few that I find better (or let's say more interesting/daring) than her, just to start with: Mukhina, Shushunova, Silivas, maybe Nellie Kim. I think we were led by the media to believe she was the best ever, and that remained an untouchable issue.
@@hjaidar Nadias Perfection nabady equalized She have more 10s than your mukina o shushunova and in 80 in Maskva mafiotic judges stolen gold Team from Romania
En realidad el nivel artístico y virtuosismo de Silivas y Dobre era a mi parecer superior, sin embargo Sílivas no tenía la dureza mental de Nadia, y Dobre estuvo plagada de lesiones, por eso no brillaron en JO como Nadia. Por ende no son tan recordadas o exitosas como Comaneci, además Nadia fue primero y quien pega primero pega dos veces, según un dicho popular.
Those Nadia fans... The girl will always have the title for the best ever (although that's highly debatable, again: highly debatable), but you guys keep comparing her to all the other gymnasts. What for? That's kinda pointless and stupid, I must say. But hey...
Nadia fue revolucionaria porque tiró elementos que nadie había visto antes y además era infalible. Pero en suelo, Daniela tiene más gracia. A mí Nadia en suelo nunca me impresionó demasiado. Tampoco creo que haya sido tan innovadora. Ella era espectacular en barra y asimétricas. Innovadora y como un reloj.
Ого как набрала вес Силиваш в 1989 году,уже нет той акробатики что была все это время,черный костюм чтобы скрадывал ее полноту,и дешевое сальто.да,на Олимпиаде 88 она была худенькая и хрупкая
Really miss this kind of gymnastics. So sad that the code of points no longer reward such masterpieces.
Daniela per me è numero uno!!!!mito assoluto, la adoro!
I love Silivas.
Rewards for difficulty only results in less artistry, and a ton of injuries for the athlete's. Have you ever seen so many shoulder injuries before in WAG!
she is the most technical gymnast of all time
She looks twelve!
Of the gymnasts of that truly artistic gymnastics era, i rewatch and am most impressed by Olga Korbut and Daniela Silivas. Their charisma, naturalness and enjoyment,combined with power and precision ,for me, will forever trump any overpowered, thickly muscled somewhat graceless acrobatics which is today's style.
Such a beautiful technician and dancer. Dance ability light years ahead of most today, with poise, musicality and flair (and top drawer difficulty on all apparatus for her time as well). Her line, shown especially well on the bars, was one of the very best during the time she competed. A fabulous gymnast, who should be celebrated for her fantastic talent and all her achievements.
Nu ma satur,sa privesc,aceasta fetita cu codita cata voioșie și cata perfecțiune.....Daniela Silivas! Mare fenomen.Doamne! Câte gimnaste fenomen a dat tara noastră! Felicitări!❤ Super! Doamne ajuta ! Sa mai avem... Sunt : drăguțe,, zglobii pline de talent și viata..❤❤❤❤ Felicitari! fetelor.Mult noroc! În viețile voastre!❤
Se muncea enorm și cu seriozitate!! Fără fițe
2 European champion.
2 World champion.
1 Olympic champion.
The Queen floor in '80. No doubt.
Queen on beam too!
This is REAL gymnastics not like the mechanical crap that they have today.
Through her gymnastics Daniela Silivas expressed the joy and innocence of childhood. She was happiness personified.
❤🎉
She is in my opinion te best gymnast
Me too
she always had the most spectacular floors routines, funy, creative, artistic
It was impossible not loving her.
It is impossible not to love her *
Așa ceva este un sol impresionant,nu solul făcut de americance,iar Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea ,au făcut solul foarte bun, față de americancele,care au avut exerciții de, fără grație, gingășia feminină eleganță, rafinament ritmicitate, făcute de fetele noastre de aur, Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea.🌹🌹🥀💐🌞🌞♥️♥️🥰💯💯🤗🇷🇴☮️🇹🇩🙏💓💝❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nunca más hubieron gimnastas como estas de fines de los 80. Daniela además de ser una extraordinaria gimnasta, era una magnífica bailarina. Cada detalle, hasta el movimiento de las manos demuestran la.enseñanza de la danza clásica.
She's a legend!
What can you say? She is grace and joy and perfection. Now the floor exercise is just boring long tumbles. I dont see joy in performing now. Thats a shame.
Her 1988 compulsory will forever be in my heart.❤
ABSOLUTE PERFECTION
Nothing will beat the drama and show of the 1988 Olympics... The individual finals, omg. With sikuvas and shushaniva, one 10 after another...and the incredibly different styles of the two gymnasts couldn't be further apart, which made it more awesome
Totally agree. Best ever floor compulsory imo, Podkopayeva in 1996 second. Just unmatched. I firmly believe that she was the worthy winner of the floor event gold medal because of that compulsory routine. No one came close.
Forever the gold standard!
anche per me!!!
The twin spins at 4:22 - OMG. So perfect. She really was a dancer. So much fun to watch - thank you!!
Thank you for enjoying!!!
She is the best to me. Grace, and power. Beautiful choreography as well! Fantastic!
Também acho, me lembro dela quando eu era criança e fiquei encantada, ela tem uma aura delicada e pleno domínio das habilidades da ginástica artística. Não me canso de vê-la.
Favorite gymnast. I miss this type of gymnastics.
Her movements were/are always so crisp and beautiful...she's simply the best!
The balletic quality in her moves is sublime. No one compares.
Dance artistry, where gymnasts showed graceful moves in time with the music, and showed emotion, feeling - not there today. More emphasis on difficulty has meant routines are dominated wirh skills as opposed to the original intent of floor routines
I agree! So much tumbling leaves little room for dance. It's made for boring gymnastics in my opinion 😴
@@sallydaniel1023 maybe they could introduce a 5th event - separate tumbling to have it separate, or create a second floor event where dance and artistry are more heavily favoured....
@@anovemberstar They already have power tumbling
Yes yes yes. I find routines today without the soul of the past. Tourischeva's coach Rastorotsky said that choreography, dance and artistry was critical to the presentation of the routine, and difficulty in the gymnastic elements performed should work in harmony with the artistic presentation. He said that each gymnast had something unique to present to the judges, and that is her artistry - difficulty should supplement that.
I feel that has been lost now - in order to do well, gymnasts must show difficulty that has not necessarily been mastered. The choppy choreography and 'hard' leaps/spins detract from the overall gymnastic experience, in my opinion.
@@sallydaniel1023 actually, better plan woudl be to bring back compulasries, even if its just for beam and floor. gymnasts could pic which event they want to add, only do one of them even.
Exquisita! Espectacular! Una de mis gimnastas favoritas después de NADIA, y para mí la mejor de los 80! DANIELA conjuga elegancia, gracia, potencia, totalidad y amplitud en la ejecución del movimiento, y además es una excelente bailarina! Es de las pocas ejecutantes que logra conectarse con el auditorio por su gran carisma,y una de las grandes leyendas de la Escuela Rumana, con ese indiscutible sello de excelencia! GRACIAS SIEMPRE POR TU TALENTO Y APORTES DANIELA SILIVAS!👏👏👏❤️👑
Wonderful team of Romania..!!❤🎉
You can see so much of Moceanu’s choreography from 96 in these 80s Romanian teams.
Isso que eu pensei. Me lembrou Moceanu
The perfect 10! Daniela still loving you❤
As romenas dão o nome na ginástica. Rainhas incomparáveis e Maravilhosas.
GRATIE..TEHNICA..PUR BALET..GINGASIE SI COPILARIE MUNCITA..TE ADOR SI TE RESPECT DANIELA SILIVAS! "ZBURATOR" AL GIMNASTICII ROMANESTI!❤❤❤❤❤
There was such a profound difference in Daniela's elegance and difficulty between 1985 and 1986.
Same with 1986 and 1987.
Ufff Romanians girls rule 💪💓💪
One of The most graceful gymnast ever. Light-footed Diva.
One of the queens of floor imo.
Her 87 and 88 routines are still some of the best routines in gymnastics history. By 89 she said she'd lost some of her motivation, but she was still great!!
You are totally correct. The best true floor worker ever. Modern gymnasts are wonderful acrobats.
Why did she retire so young?
@@cecilianovais212 Burnout and injuries
@@cecilianovais212 back then that was the average age to retire. Also revolution took place in Romania and everything was messy. Her head coaches left the country too.
I have been looking for her 1987 floor routine. I never forgot it. One of the best routines ever expressed. I found it tonight.
La gacela Silivas!!! sus ejercicios de suelo eran pura fantasía! Mi favorita de siempre
An absolute joy to watch
The Romanians kicked ass in ‘87!
Wow, ive never seen that second tumbling pass where she's in the blue leotard on the yellow mat in 1986 ..that was awesome!!!
They called it the “two-in-one” back in the day! Watch this! This is where it originated! Omeilianchik
th-cam.com/video/LHeZkFdUMPA/w-d-xo.html
@@worldartgym. And it’s colloquially known as “back-to-back” tumbling!
@@yuiop6611 it is now, yes - you’re right, but my point was television commentators in ‘85 called it “two (passes) in one” or at least the versions I watched called it that
Absolute legend.
Remember when amplitude was rewarded? My understanding is current GOP gives same points for doing crappy, but completed skill, as someone who does it masterfully with amplitude.
OMG, the third performance, my mouth hung open
Mucho mejor que la comaneci...y por mucho.
the best gymnast ever
Силиваш очень сильная гимнастка, очень артистичная, пластичная, миниатюрная.❤❤❤ Сейчас мускулистые акробатки. Силиваш 👍
Her form was IMPECCABLE!
At 4:04 absolutely amazing!
1980s at Daniela silivas of rivalries soviet unions elena shushunova.
Not having that super power ability she preformed a double double on FX 1988 I will never forget that moment that was an apex of skill and desire
Ce valori?Monumentale! .....în gimnastica României.Felicitari!Super ! Bravo! Daniela Silivas.Ai strălucit ca un diamant! (Părea ca te joci......Dar,munca era pe masura)❤❤❤❤❤❤
Beautyful ,better to Biles
Commentator Monica Phelps being Monica talking about how silivas struggling with her weight in ‘89….tho woman was a savage! 😂
very impressive performance, I think today's gymnasts such as Simona Biles doesn't match with her.
When there were less rules to worry about, there was more artistry. Now gymnasts have to accumulate points rather than tell a story. It’s not any specific gymnast’s fault, rather the scoring system and what has evolved over time.
You would be right, Simone has far surpassed any of them. She is the most decorated gymnast(male or female).
@@jacobmiller2663 with doping ithen me can run maraton all medals of biles are with doping
@@jacobmiller2663😂😂😂😂most doped es most halped by judges
Bravo Daniela🥰🥰
My favorites are the 1987 World Championships and the 88 Olympics! She also looks amazing at the 1989 World Championships!
7:27- 7:40 reminds me of the song "don't you forget about me" specifically the part with the lyrics "la la la la la la la la la la la..."
She was 12 in 1984
Silivas daniela❤era o mare specialista❤profesionista❤în gimnastica😮😮😮super star❤😮😮😮
The Table of Content Titles are somewhat out-of-sync with the actual routines. That being said, I personally prefer the 3rd routine, which looks to have been from the 87 Europeans in Moscow. I think that the combination of the tumbling, choreography/dance, execution, and music choice made it her best routine - and that is really saying something because ALL of her routines were GREAT!
Her tourines are fo exquisite and from such a young age!
Lovely and superb gymnasts one in a generation, she has it all, accuracy, musicality, grace, flexibility and acro, and fun! all perfect❤
Într-adevăr Daniele silivas❤era prea mare gimnasta❤un geniu❤respect sint din romania❤
So are we skipping the Olympics because of the unfortunate perm? Lol
Maravilhosas❤
Fetita Daniela silivas❤prea mare specialista❤era la gimnastica❤😮😮😮😮
Her classic routine starts at 5:18. It's just beautiful.
Tenia como antes belleza y talento
You can really see her improving and maturity in the dance through the years
She was amazing! She did big gymnastics!
As romenas...sempre foram feras....
Sensational, period!
Superba!❤❤❤❤
Даниэла! 😍
How old was she? Was she a day over 8?
Ahhhh yooooo
Stupenda!!!!❤
❤🎉🎉
13:38 So professional gymnastics is a lower level? The concept doesn't make sense. The best aren't pro. They only go pro when they're washed up? Very odd. What they talked about didn't materialize.
シリバスが白ベースじゃないレオタード着てるのを初めて見たかも❤笑
91年に、こんな演技が披露されてたんですね〜アップありがとうございます！
89年の世界選手権でもすでに体型変化で身体が動きづらそうだったものなあ…
30年以上前から見てますが、これからもまだまだ見ます〜！😆
yeeesss💝💝💝
I often wondered why she didn’t try for Barcelona, she certainly had the chops still to challenge for a gold in many events. It certainly is true though that she’d been at it for a long while- especially in that era with far less padding and give to the apparatus. She still had an amazing career though!
great
Love the routine in the blue leotard..much more interesting
That's weird, she didn't do her signature move in any of these routines? Am I crazy?
She did it in the 88 Olympics at team finals, which is not included in this compilation.
@@soledadferrer1325 Thank you!
She only competed it once and it arguably cost her the gold in the Olympic all-around.
When you said signature move, I immediately thought of the the hoedown from her 85 routine 😭. I refer to her signature move by the name of its true inventor, the Pryakhina 🙏
I would add her 1987 Dtb cup routine
She was 2 years old in the first dance
German commentator a little shady lol
Uh oh!!! What are they saying???
Like than the American commentators from the 80s and 90s.. Calling them fragile little girls - when they were 15, 16 years old.....?
@@worldartgym it's not too bad but he is like "the acrobatics are not the problem. the dancing however...well...a matter of taste"
@@lpoco0006 oh!... The story of my TH-cam channel 😂
1:36 - 1:45 😍❤
Que musica la segunda parece es esa que linda me encanta amo sus acrobacias lindas🎉🎉🎉
Cuál canción?
She looks so tiny...
Нормально она выглядит. Она гимнастка, а не штангистка и не борец сумо))
Wheres 88 routine?
In several of my other videos… look around!
@@worldartgymlol we have to avoid the IOC at all costs 😭
@@thesovgc the wrath of the ioc is no joke
Kalah di tangan pesenam soviet.. elena shushunova.
Where is silivas?
Bela and Marta are there as always behind one of the worlds greatest gymnast.
I don't think she was ever trained by Belu, who had already defected to the US. Her head coach was Adrian Goreac who defected in the revolution and was taken over by Bellu.
tricks generally weren't as difficult then as some of them are now when Daniela was competing the highest difficulty rating was D-E in some its up to I or J now
It is called artistic not acrobatic gimnastics
Одно и тоже прыгает и тело ребенка,нет гимнастика это когда выступали в 70х,80х советские девушки и другие,очень элегантно,а детское тело это даже не смотрится.Хорошо что на Олимпиаде 1988 победила Шушунова она смотрелась лучше,а Силиваш потом брала золото на снарядах,но у нее была досада что она не стала абсолютной чемпионкой,и до следующей Олимпиады в 1992 году увы не дошла
It is very, very good but it lacks the exquisiteness and grace of Nadia Comaneci
Nadia was perfect but was never considered the most artistic, I need to side with Silivas here (moreso later in her career) as being more artistic than Nadia.
@@worldartgym even Dobre was one of those gymnast that had the it factor, also her level of virtuosity and artistic expression were incredible. In my book Silivas and Dobre were as talented as Comaneci, too bad Dobre was injured in 1988.
@@worldartgym But what is it to be perfect after all? I mean, Comaneci was AMAZING, don't get me wrong, but I can name a few that I find better (or let's say more interesting/daring) than her, just to start with: Mukhina, Shushunova, Silivas, maybe Nellie Kim. I think we were led by the media to believe she was the best ever, and that remained an untouchable issue.
@@hjaidar Nadias Perfection nabady equalized She have more 10s than your mukina o shushunova and in 80 in Maskva mafiotic judges stolen gold Team from Romania
Es muy pero muy buena pero le falta la exquisitez y la gracia de Nadia Comaneci
En realidad el nivel artístico y virtuosismo de Silivas y Dobre era a mi parecer superior, sin embargo Sílivas no tenía la dureza mental de Nadia, y Dobre estuvo plagada de lesiones, por eso no brillaron en JO como Nadia. Por ende no son tan recordadas o exitosas como Comaneci, además Nadia fue primero y quien pega primero pega dos veces, según un dicho popular.
Te has lucido con tu comentario, pero si eso le sobra a Daniela, mucho más que a Nadia..
Those Nadia fans... The girl will always have the title for the best ever (although that's highly debatable, again: highly debatable), but you guys keep comparing her to all the other gymnasts. What for? That's kinda pointless and stupid, I must say. But hey...
Nadia fue revolucionaria porque tiró elementos que nadie había visto antes y además era infalible. Pero en suelo, Daniela tiene más gracia. A mí Nadia en suelo nunca me impresionó demasiado. Tampoco creo que haya sido tan innovadora. Ella era espectacular en barra y asimétricas. Innovadora y como un reloj.
Ого как набрала вес Силиваш в 1989 году,уже нет той акробатики что была все это время,черный костюм чтобы скрадывал ее полноту,и дешевое сальто.да,на Олимпиаде 88 она была худенькая и хрупкая