This guy is amazing at explaining things, even my wife who has absolutely no interest in cars chimed in across the room and said "This guy knows his stuff!!" I told her that someone did a thumbs down and she said "This is always one dumb ass in the crowd!!" Great job Jordan.
I'm a retired Hiway cop drove the crown Vic for 11 yrs always wanted more. I own a Vic sport, bouhgt a set of heads from rock auto. Saw your vid and I'm kicking my ass
Jordan knows his stuff I bought a 4.6L stroker block from him assembled,balanced and blueprinted almost 10 years ago. I'm still running that block that he built for me with no issues. Granted I'm not running it on the edge but I'm not afraid to spray a 150 shot into that motor at any time. The longevity of that motor speaks volumes about his build quality thanks Jordan.
Massively impressed at this guy - great to see someone who has mastered his art; in a world of people seemingly only interested in their social media 5 minutes of fame, this guy refreshes me that there are still honest and hardworking 'young 'workers out there.
I just picked up a new set of TFS 185 heads for my 2003 4.6 2v engine yesterday. I had purchased a set of comp cams(new) a couple years ago off of the local buy and sell . I feel lucky that I stumbled across this video . I will definitely be confirming the compatibility of the parts that I had planned on using. THANKS !!!
Another comment - I'm totally impressed by your attention to specifications, workmanship, and theory. So few "technicians" these days have your level of competence or your work ethic. Be proud of your ability to use a calculator, pen and paper as well as hard tools. Bravo, Sir!
I don't know how often you check these video comments, but I seriously have so much respect and appreciation for you doing this. Without a doubt, you'll be who I'm doing business with when I start my build. Thank you and I hope all is well!
Wow! Super easy to follow. Thanks Jordan! I just bought an 04 Mach1, low miles with a hurt motor. Super glad I ran across your video and checking out your site now. I know this video is specific to the 2v motor but your honesty and bluntness has my attention and you seem like someone to trust!
Great info and myth busting but probably decades late for many people. I bought some Comp 270s in 2005 i think, but i had heard rumors of PTV issues with those cams on some of the forums. I chose the 270s cause cam choices were more limited back then, and was building a 5.4 swap so i knew that cam would be less aggressive in the 5.4, and i had no PTV worries cause of the piston sitting 0.115 in the hole on a 5.4. Loved that engine, even though it had adapter plates, it really responded well to the comp 270's, very mild port on the heads, and a 2v SVO(similar to a bullit) intake that had been reported to match the PI runners. Wish i still had that combination. Sold the heads and intake years ago, and still have the 270s on a shelf, but im a 4v 5.4 now and have a set of comp 106460s that i think are too much, but after paying 1200 for cams im kinda stuck with them. Not a fan of those cams but not going to put anymore money into 4v cams.
The video I've been waiting for!! I already degreed mine but I haven't fully assembled everything and it's currently still on the stand. Can't wait to get some time to watch this and verify what I've got
I learned so much from this video. I plan on watching it again to soak up the details. This feels like a college lab class in the powertrain engineering department. I just bought back my son's first car from him (1996 SN-95), and I feel emboldened to do business with Jordon, but I'm worried my son will want it back. I'd better transfer the title before doing any mods.
This is a must see for Mod motor builders, Jordan has helped me by this video and he was right on the money ! Keep up they great work Jordan, looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for the solid information on 2v cams and you just sealed the deal with who i will be buying my cam from with degree service THANKS and keep the great 2v content coming
Um, 2v will not smoke ls motors 4v don't do so hot either. Coyote well that's a different ball game. Considering a na gen 3 Coyote will lay waste to a Fbo terminator that is pullied down, both at the track and on the Dyno should be a eye opener of how pathetic the old 2v motors are
@@chadwismer3601 4v does just fine. Ecspecially the 4v in the terminator and gt500. Coyote is a 4v too. Andrew got into the 10s at high 120s with stock motor and turbo on a 2v. Imagine a 4v even pre terminator. Gm is lucky ford kept the cubic inches down with these dohc engines. If they'd put 5.4 4v similar to cobra r engine in regular cobras like they should have it would gave the ls1 all it could handle and then some its a shame they didn't do that. Even with only 281 cubes the na cobras and the 03-04, machs were pretty stout and could hang right close to ls1 camaros stock for stock. I gear swap is all it took to turn the tables. Those cars need gears as bad as any car ever. Ford was new to the ohc stuff then and was still figuring it all out and was still doing pretty good considering. Years of figuring it out has lead to the coyote and a truly world-class amazing engine. The older 4v can make pretty good power too if you let it have all the coyotes advantages. Give it coyote compression 11 or 12:1. Give it cams to make up for the fact it doesn't have variable cam timing which helps the coyote run more aggressive cams than it would be able to otherwise oem which helps it make more power. More cubes 302 vs 281 give a good ported short running intake and ported heads that flow what coyote heads do out the box and you'd be surprised how close in output it would be to a stock coyote. What I'm getting at is technology and just being better equipped stock helps the coyote make real good power but the old 4v can make good power too if you even up the playing field. The coyote evolved from the 4vs like the lt evolved from the ls and the ls evolved from the old lt and original sbc. Gm has had all these years to perfect development of the pushrod engine to the latest tech and they also have alot more cubic inches to boot. Of course they're gonna have solid engines. The fords hold their own and then some.
Great video. I only disagree with what you said at the end, that its not a tool to make noise its a tool to make power. We all buy cars for different reasons and for different uses. Your car may be a tool for you to enjoy, my car may be a tool for me to work, and so on and so fourth. Personally I don't care much for speed or efficiency, I care about exhaust note more than anything else, though I want reliable drive ability so I don't want huge cams with zero vacuum at idle anyway. With that said I agree with your reason for saying it, especially seeing how tight the clearances are. Even a very, very small amount of carbon build up would be enough to bend a valve in the right circumstances with those tolerances.
I think some of us love these 2vs too much. Everyone but us has given up on them 😂. Ive got yet another 5.4 2v going into a truck and its even harder than last year to get an intake parted together.
So on a stock NPI 4.6 long block and PI heads with stock valves, with the XE274H cams my math on the intake open BTDC was 8*. What is wrong with retarding the cam shaft 5-6* to prevent PTV contact
Thanks for the video Jordan, I have a question about the crank gear. I have the one piece Ford OEM crank gear, and I noticed that it has some back and forth play just like the camshaft gears have on the cams, that you use to fine tune the cam degree. Will this play in the crank gear effect the degree of the cams, because the gear isn't tightened while doing the cam degree? How will I know the crank gear is in the same position when I tighten it, as it was while doing the degree?
Just bought another gt it’s a 97 model. Also picked up a 2004 motor so I can do the pi head swap. Definitely will be ordering my cams from you. I’m just curious if I should use the 2004 block or keep the 97. Block. Been told you get better compression with pi heads on npi block
Is that a bright tangerine? Those are only 96 though so I guess not, that's what I have. If your 97 has good compression still I'd use it for that little bump in compression. I swapped a whole 01 bullitt motor into mine. I'm about to buy a aluminum WAP out of an explorer, use coyote connecting rods, na 4v pistons to bring the compression even higher and see what I can do with full bolt ons, some weight reduction and some cam
got a question I have a 2000 mustang 2valve got slot of mods on car but has stock internals was wondering with ur cam service which is the biggest cam I can go with
Have you had anyone use 4v na stock pistons in a 2v to bump up compression? I can't find much information if it'd be too much for 93 octane even. I'm planning on a stage 4 or 5 na cam from you and I've heard that larger cams would bleed of some pressure
Am I able to send you my purchased cams to get installed on some cylinder heads? Edit: What did I learn, I need a computer upgrade and to make sure I get my sht done here lmao 🤣.
GT500 heads have a raised intake port which positions the port more optimally in relation to the valve, smaller intake side lash adjusters make room for the raised intake ports, more port volume, larger 32mm exhaust valves, more deck thickness are cast from a much more robust aluminum alloy. Oh GT500 heads don’t have the cam cap “cages” that share two dowel pins for ever 3 cam journals. Each cam cap is individually doweled like the old Windsor 2Vs, a much better and more expensive setup. Aviator heads are exactly the same as Marauder, Mach 1 and 03/04 Cobra heads. Similar to 99/01 Cobra heads but not the same, better flow on both intake and exhaust sides and the intake port profile is fairly different. Early Navigator heads were unique to the Navigator. Pretty much a larger port version of the standard “tumble port” 99/01 4V port.
lot of expensive tools to buy for just 1 engine build ... thinking its simply easier to invest the money in springs and tool to cut notches in the pistons for clearance for the more iffy cams ? and simply bolt it in and add 1 more psi of boost to make up for not dialing in the cam .. pretty much your looking at $450 for the cam degreeing tools alone.
Way different. 4V has quite a bit of PTV clearance but also very early intake opening with some camshaft designs. I will do a 4V Cam Degree tutorial at some point.
Does anyone know why mine idles above 1k rpm with stage 2 comp cam? Why iac I good to that's not the issue. It might be because I have to air filter though.
I think alot of people are getting new engines or refreshed ones. Stuff thats normally never out of stock on his site is suddenly out of stock. Edelbrock kits. Adjustable. Pro comp cam gears. (Pro comp told me today september on 150 back orders when i called) took a couple weeks to get the valves in this time. But its everywhere. Alot of parts are getting put on back order atm. Used to get 4.6/5.4 plates and the 4.6 intake as a kit cant hardly find them now or you gotta piece it together yourself. I think i saw years ago on the forums a dude cut his victor and stretched it to fit his 5.4.
Certainly not something you can explain to someone in an hour. It's not much more than basic math you learned by the sixth grade, but that took six years.
This guy is amazing at explaining things, even my wife who has absolutely no interest in cars chimed in across the room and said "This guy knows his stuff!!" I told her that someone did a thumbs down and she said "This is always one dumb ass in the crowd!!" Great job Jordan.
I'm a retired Hiway cop drove the crown Vic for 11 yrs always wanted more.
I own a Vic sport, bouhgt a set of heads from rock auto.
Saw your vid and I'm kicking my ass
What cams did you go with?
Awesome man
Jordan knows his stuff I bought a 4.6L stroker block from him assembled,balanced and blueprinted almost 10 years ago. I'm still running that block that he built for me with no issues. Granted I'm not running it on the edge but I'm not afraid to spray a 150 shot into that motor at any time. The longevity of that motor speaks volumes about his build quality thanks Jordan.
Massively impressed at this guy - great to see someone who has mastered his art; in a world of people seemingly only interested in their social media 5 minutes of fame, this guy refreshes me that there are still honest and hardworking 'young 'workers out there.
This is the first video of yours I've watched, and I am IMPRESSED! Count me as a subscriber and superfan!
That was really good and so refreshing to get some modular tech from an actual builder. Ur gonna get real popular if you keep this up.
I just picked up a new set of TFS 185 heads for my 2003 4.6 2v engine yesterday. I had purchased a set of comp cams(new) a couple years ago off of the local buy and sell . I feel lucky that I stumbled across this video . I will definitely be confirming the compatibility of the parts that I had planned on using. THANKS !!!
Another comment - I'm totally impressed by your attention to specifications, workmanship, and theory. So few "technicians" these days have your level of competence or your work ethic. Be proud of your ability to use a calculator, pen and paper as well as hard tools. Bravo, Sir!
I don't know how often you check these video comments, but I seriously have so much respect and appreciation for you doing this. Without a doubt, you'll be who I'm doing business with when I start my build. Thank you and I hope all is well!
Holy smokes I'm so freaking happy to find you like I'm in pain from the lack of knowing what to do
This is very informative. I'm just planning my 4.6L 2valve project. Glad I came across your channel.
Hell yeah!
Wow! Super easy to follow. Thanks Jordan! I just bought an 04 Mach1, low miles with a hurt motor. Super glad I ran across your video and checking out your site now. I know this video is specific to the 2v motor but your honesty and bluntness has my attention and you seem like someone to trust!
Great video! If you ever have time it would be great to see a video on timing the 96-04 4V properly.
Great info and myth busting but probably decades late for many people. I bought some Comp 270s in 2005 i think, but i had heard rumors of PTV issues with those cams on some of the forums. I chose the 270s cause cam choices were more limited back then, and was building a 5.4 swap so i knew that cam would be less aggressive in the 5.4, and i had no PTV worries cause of the piston sitting 0.115 in the hole on a 5.4. Loved that engine, even though it had adapter plates, it really responded well to the comp 270's, very mild port on the heads, and a 2v SVO(similar to a bullit) intake that had been reported to match the PI runners. Wish i still had that combination. Sold the heads and intake years ago, and still have the 270s on a shelf, but im a 4v 5.4 now and have a set of comp 106460s that i think are too much, but after paying 1200 for cams im kinda stuck with them. Not a fan of those cams but not going to put anymore money into 4v cams.
Sweet setup.. I'm a 2v guy myself.. TrickFlow top end going on my P71..
The video I've been waiting for!! I already degreed mine but I haven't fully assembled everything and it's currently still on the stand. Can't wait to get some time to watch this and verify what I've got
great videos Jordan keep it up!!! AZIZ from Kuwait supporting the channel.
Im so glad you provide cam degreeing service,im pretty sure i would mess this part of the build up....😂
I bought his degree kit and I learnt how with big custom camshafts
I learned so much from this video. I plan on watching it again to soak up the details. This feels like a college lab class in the powertrain engineering department. I just bought back my son's first car from him (1996 SN-95), and I feel emboldened to do business with Jordon, but I'm worried my son will want it back. I'd better transfer the title before doing any mods.
One thing's for sure, if you die he might end up with it anyway..lol Have your will in order.. ;)
This was such a good video, thank you for all of the information. You did a very good job explaining it all.
This is a must see for Mod motor builders, Jordan has helped me by this video and he was right on the money ! Keep up they great work Jordan, looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for the solid information on 2v cams and you just sealed the deal with who i will be buying my cam from with degree service THANKS and keep the great 2v content coming
Thanks again Jordan. Love your tech videos, and look forward to more!
Great video. Thanks for doing this! Greatly appreciated. I have some of your ported 2v heads and that same t shirt. Pretty cool
“Now you know why people’s stuff blows up. Stupid stuff like this” 😆
I am used to SBC and BBC, now I have a 2V 4.6 and your explanation helps.
Do more 2v videos, there dime a dozen, do best bang for buck on built 2v, and let's smoke some ls junk
Um, 2v will not smoke ls motors 4v don't do so hot either. Coyote well that's a different ball game. Considering a na gen 3 Coyote will lay waste to a Fbo terminator that is pullied down, both at the track and on the Dyno should be a eye opener of how pathetic the old 2v motors are
@@chadwismer3601 hush stock motor and turbo can go 10s
@@chadwismer3601 4v does just fine. Ecspecially the 4v in the terminator and gt500. Coyote is a 4v too. Andrew got into the 10s at high 120s with stock motor and turbo on a 2v. Imagine a 4v even pre terminator. Gm is lucky ford kept the cubic inches down with these dohc engines. If they'd put 5.4 4v similar to cobra r engine in regular cobras like they should have it would gave the ls1 all it could handle and then some its a shame they didn't do that. Even with only 281 cubes the na cobras and the 03-04, machs were pretty stout and could hang right close to ls1 camaros stock for stock. I gear swap is all it took to turn the tables. Those cars need gears as bad as any car ever. Ford was new to the ohc stuff then and was still figuring it all out and was still doing pretty good considering. Years of figuring it out has lead to the coyote and a truly world-class amazing engine. The older 4v can make pretty good power too if you let it have all the coyotes advantages. Give it coyote compression 11 or 12:1. Give it cams to make up for the fact it doesn't have variable cam timing which helps the coyote run more aggressive cams than it would be able to otherwise oem which helps it make more power. More cubes 302 vs 281 give a good ported short running intake and ported heads that flow what coyote heads do out the box and you'd be surprised how close in output it would be to a stock coyote. What I'm getting at is technology and just being better equipped stock helps the coyote make real good power but the old 4v can make good power too if you even up the playing field. The coyote evolved from the 4vs like the lt evolved from the ls and the ls evolved from the old lt and original sbc. Gm has had all these years to perfect development of the pushrod engine to the latest tech and they also have alot more cubic inches to boot. Of course they're gonna have solid engines. The fords hold their own and then some.
@@midnight347They don't want to have that conversation, Chevy would be bankrupt if Ford didn't take it easy on them..
I bought a fully assembled TFS 185 Head-Cam combo from MHS back in 2017 and using them with no problem for years. If you have a Mustang, shop MHS.
The launch at the start sounds like Andrew Lavender launching.
Great information! You are a good teacher👍🏻
I have your degree kit, I used an .011" feeler gauge to get slack out of key way socket. I cut the feeler gauge to fit between them both.
Nice content. The only person who does stuff like this is Andrew Lavender with his 2v mustang that runs 8s
Andrews video at A1
Jordan,
TY for all the videos.
Would it be possible to do some 3v videos?
TY again 👍👍
Great video. I only disagree with what you said at the end, that its not a tool to make noise its a tool to make power. We all buy cars for different reasons and for different uses. Your car may be a tool for you to enjoy, my car may be a tool for me to work, and so on and so fourth. Personally I don't care much for speed or efficiency, I care about exhaust note more than anything else, though I want reliable drive ability so I don't want huge cams with zero vacuum at idle anyway. With that said I agree with your reason for saying it, especially seeing how tight the clearances are. Even a very, very small amount of carbon build up would be enough to bend a valve in the right circumstances with those tolerances.
Yes been waiting for your video's!
You made it easy to understand! Thanks!
Awesome will you be making 4.6 4v degree video good work bro
Yes!
Where are you located? I need my engine rebuilt. Great video, thanks
I think some of us love these 2vs too much. Everyone but us has given up on them 😂. Ive got yet another 5.4 2v going into a truck and its even harder than last year to get an intake parted together.
You aren’t lying lol, the aftermarkets dried up a little for sure
Right on bro, good job.
So on a stock NPI 4.6 long block and PI heads with stock valves, with the XE274H cams my math on the intake open BTDC was 8*. What is wrong with retarding the cam shaft 5-6* to prevent PTV contact
About time . Cool
Would the gasket thickness in different gaskets make a difference in the lsa?
Coool. I really enjoyed that. Thank you
Because i already bought everything to do my own head porting this winter would love to see tech video on that also THANKS again
Is all of the same for a 2003 5.4 2v?
Jordan, any plans on doing a 3V cam degreeing video?
37:58 Had me fucking bawling, had looked away from the screen for a second and had to rewind just to find out why they where laughing
Outstanding 💯
Thanks Jordan!
Great Information!
What effect does bore size have on PTV clearance? Ex. 3.700" bore, 10cc dish piston,, with .0155" piston to deck and 2v PI heads
Thanks for the video Jordan,
I have a question about the crank gear. I have the one piece Ford OEM crank gear, and I noticed that it has some back and forth play just like the camshaft gears have on the cams, that you use to fine tune the cam degree. Will this play in the crank gear effect the degree of the cams, because the gear isn't tightened while doing the cam degree? How will I know the crank gear is in the same position when I tighten it, as it was while doing the degree?
So what brand of cam would you recommend? I was considering comp278 before watching this vid. Stock motor. 4.6 2v
Good stuff
Just bought another gt it’s a 97 model. Also picked up a 2004 motor so I can do the pi head swap. Definitely will be ordering my cams from you. I’m just curious if I should use the 2004 block or keep the 97. Block. Been told you get better compression with pi heads on npi block
Is that a bright tangerine? Those are only 96 though so I guess not, that's what I have. If your 97 has good compression still I'd use it for that little bump in compression. I swapped a whole 01 bullitt motor into mine. I'm about to buy a aluminum WAP out of an explorer, use coyote connecting rods, na 4v pistons to bring the compression even higher and see what I can do with full bolt ons, some weight reduction and some cam
Does a pi swap on an npi block do something with PTV, you should do a video on pi swap 2Vs!
got a question I have a 2000 mustang 2valve got slot of mods on car but has stock internals was wondering with ur cam service which is the biggest cam I can go with
👀🤔
Id like to see anything 4.6 3valve related
Have you had anyone use 4v na stock pistons in a 2v to bump up compression? I can't find much information if it'd be too much for 93 octane even. I'm planning on a stage 4 or 5 na cam from you and I've heard that larger cams would bleed of some pressure
Am I able to send you my purchased cams to get installed on some cylinder heads?
Edit:
What did I learn, I need a computer upgrade and to make sure I get my sht done here lmao 🤣.
I hope someone follows in Nick McKenney's footsteps and builds a nasty 15:1 NPI NA 2v.
Pushrod next?
What cams.would you recommend for a 97 f150, 4.6 5 speed daily driver , 355 gears. Doing the Ported PI heads and intake swap, longtubes and exhaust
268 aka stage 2..
Can you run comp 274ex on npi block with pi heads
does doing this add hp?
Do you guys degree 4 valve cams it's for my 98 Cobra it's boosted
Are you still building and selling HP 4.6 2 valve motors ?
Thanks
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Man I’d love to come work for you. Id work for free just to be able to learn. Dream job right here.
Hitting a mf with them air quotes 🤣 I subscribed immediately.
What are the differences between GT500 heads navigator 4 valve heads and aviator 4 valve heads?
GT500 heads have a raised intake port which positions the port more optimally in relation to the valve, smaller intake side lash adjusters make room for the raised intake ports, more port volume, larger 32mm exhaust valves, more deck thickness are cast from a much more robust aluminum alloy.
Oh GT500 heads don’t have the cam cap “cages” that share two dowel pins for ever 3 cam journals. Each cam cap is individually doweled like the old Windsor 2Vs, a much better and more expensive setup.
Aviator heads are exactly the same as Marauder, Mach 1 and 03/04 Cobra heads. Similar to 99/01 Cobra heads but not the same, better flow on both intake and exhaust sides and the intake port profile is fairly different.
Early Navigator heads were unique to the Navigator.
Pretty much a larger port version of the standard “tumble port” 99/01 4V port.
lot of expensive tools to buy for just 1 engine build ... thinking its simply easier to invest the money in springs and tool to cut notches in the pistons for clearance for the more iffy cams ? and simply bolt it in and add 1 more psi of boost to make up for not dialing in the cam .. pretty much your looking at $450 for the cam degreeing tools alone.
How different is it for a 4v brotha?
Way different. 4V has quite a bit of PTV clearance but also very early intake opening with some camshaft designs.
I will do a 4V Cam Degree tutorial at some point.
Modular Head Shop I appreciate you spending the time to do these videos. Stay safe.
Does anyone know why mine idles above 1k rpm with stage 2 comp cam? Why iac I good to that's not the issue. It might be because I have to air filter though.
Maybe your tune??
Can the timing chain kit from a 2v kit fit a 3v ?
If you don’t know that off the top of your head you have no business changing your oil.
Huffing helium before the video?
I need a 3v video$$
Makes me want to send you my motor so you can build it. But your other video said you we're going to take it easy on that end. 😔
I know man. Same here, he sent me a quote then i called the next week and thats when he said he was not taking any more orders
@@barryjamestowlejr8393 its understandable hopefully he starts doing it again eventually
I think alot of people are getting new engines or refreshed ones. Stuff thats normally never out of stock on his site is suddenly out of stock. Edelbrock kits. Adjustable. Pro comp cam gears. (Pro comp told me today september on 150 back orders when i called) took a couple weeks to get the valves in this time. But its everywhere. Alot of parts are getting put on back order atm. Used to get 4.6/5.4 plates and the 4.6 intake as a kit cant hardly find them now or you gotta piece it together yourself. I think i saw years ago on the forums a dude cut his victor and stretched it to fit his 5.4.
@@brandona4618 its crazy
My name is James Hudson Jackson ll thank you this is mann man
Certainly not something you can explain to someone in an hour. It's not much more than basic math you learned by the sixth grade, but that took six years.
I suffered a few concussions after the 6th grade.. Now I'm not sure if 4+4 is actually 4..lol
Anyone can work on ls !!
Good stuff, but dang man put a little bass in your voice lol
This video is too long