This is freakin awesome timing! I just got my machined .020" over teksid block back 2 weeks ago and I had ordered the Modular Head Shop Wiseco 4v 6cc with K1 piston/rod combo in early December. Will be pulling my mach 1 engine as the donor for the build in 2 weeks. Keep the vids going!!! I was already using your gt500 build with Jordan for many similar tips on modulars.
Is a teksid block a must . Will the Windsor hold 1000hp BTW it's about time some put some crazy imput in the 4.6 2 vavle . Tons and tons of them out there . I know I've seen the guy in the white mustang running crazy hp and ET and boost in a 2 vavle .
The teksid he has isnt the 3v block but the 3v block prob can handle 1000 too the teksid was in 96-99 cars I believe and is the strongest aluminum block ford ever made possibly the strongest block period ford has ever made. It is ideal on any 4.6build
Jordan the knowledge you have you should be in your 70’s not as young as you are. The attention to detail you have is fucking ridiculous and hopefully summer of 2121 we can chat and have a short block built for myself. Every time I watch a video with you extremely educational and has help me understand things much clearer. My back ground was in snowmobiles either a mono Block 3 cylinder or the badass domestic twin #polaris developed. When I move out of Maine to NC obviously to much need for a snowmobile down here and recently bought a mustang. Current set up: 2.3 TVS, oil pump and crank sprocket, and other suspension mods. My original goal and still is absolutely street car with a good bottom end , somewhere in the 750 category which I’m only 70 off that that focus on cooling and have a weekend warrior for back road fun or road course. Thanks for the great content and the education Happy New Year
I would have started off with a 5.4L Lightning block since they share the same heads. Ive seen them make 850wtq with an old school Kenne Bell 2.1L on e85 10+ years ago.
I got my ported 2v heads from mhs last year and wish I would have done a the teksid block with them. Might start shopping for a teksid block or two and build another motor for my mustang and t-bird
I can't wait to see what kind of magic Jordan will do with this build, cause he absolutely killed it on the GT500 motor. Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, and all the best for 2021.💪💪💪
What did you guys do about the massive chin looking section on the outside of the intake valve in the chamber? Most guys shave them right off and only reduce the wave in the middle between the valves.
I've been wanting to pick Jordan's brain on 2v heads. About bigger valves and pushing the limits. 2.02/1.52-1.64? Or what he's doing to really opening the heads up...
What after market Head would you recommend for a 351 Cleveland that's been stroked for a Street / Strip motor, Worried more about making Torque then Horse Power, will run some long tube headers with the motor to help with the Torque. Thanks I was looking at the Trick Flow Heads, but honestly not sure which heads would be best for making more Torque.
You could easily work a npi head to not only fit a bigger cam than Pi without valve clearance issues, spark plug threads arent a problem, thicker decks, and they can reach over 225cfm on the intake side without removal of the swirl dam which makes for a more efficient combustion chamber despite it being larger than the Pi.
@@randolphniles2332 Even the 96+ Npi castings can be worked to make really good power. Those svo castings are fantastic heads. The idea of worsening the already less than ideal short turn on a PI intake port by raising the seat makes me think you would lose a ton of port volume and have a harder time getting the air to move around the valve. Nick McKenney from MHS had always had good things to say about a properly worked npi head.
Jordan stays super busy. We are working on plans together to do some awesome stuff! He doesn't want to take on more engine builds and have extremely long wait times. I don't know when but hopefully soon he will take on more.
Hi mr Jordan is a 3v block a better block to use for a 2v 4.6 with good 250 horse nitrous system.and boost line rods . I’ve been saving for yeas for my short block and tfs heads for high rpm and nitrous I would like to know what else you recommend .I would like high compression and big cam no tub or supercharger. Any advice I would be very greatful. Thank you. Jarod would Ike to use a set f 8
Is Jordan still NOT building customer engines???? Ive made several attempts to buy one of his 1000HP 4.6 4v short blocks to no avail. I reeally want to send him my heads and get back a long block (complete engine build)
I just this last spring got all my parts from jordan to replace the worn out romeo in my truck. But switched to a 5.4 block. Curious to see where this leads.
Because for some reason people think they can't make power this build is going to show alot of people how wrong they are. Just because they can't go much above 400 reliably on stock rods don't mean you can't build a wicked machine without a ton of money.
So it’s still a 2v or no? I’m confused, if the block doesn’t come from the actual 2v, and since you have an aftermarket one does it still count as a 2v? I’m bad at explaining, but let me know if you understand me or need a little bit of more explanation lol.
Being 2v dont have much to do with the block that is the kinda heads the car runs. It will still be a 4.6 2v except with an aluminum teksid block which is lighter and stronger.
Any word on standard size king main bearings being back in stock fellas?? Wiseco make a piston over 10.0:1 for a 98 teksid with b heads? Standard cylinder bore size
Hey, since you're talking about the older teskid blocks, has Jordan done any work on the 4V B-heads to work better for boosted applications? Wondering if he has any magic for those heads so they do just as well as the other 4v's (I.E. "C" heads). Heard they flow great but exhaust design is garbage and most people push for other heads.
Look up accufab racign and John Mihovetz. They paired up and set the stock block record with a stock teksid block at 5.88 in the 1/4. The b heads are good for low 6s ported in the 1/4. They ran out of air when they reached 6.3-6.5 seconds in the 1/4.
@@karlhopkins713 I did read something about that years ago, but also their heads were so modified they didn't even resemble anything near B-heads. I guess if you have enough boost anything can make power. I just can't find a solid thread/article of a ported B-head 'not only' flowing more than C-heads but having similar mid range. Most people just ditch the B-Heads to gain better street manners plus they respond better up to about 900whp - after this I guess you're just pumping in the boost! I just want to know if modified/reworked B-head can be a close contender against a mildly/ported C-head. I read it too often, that unless you're going turbo'd they're a bit of a bear to make any actual power - 25psi from an F1A ~ 700hp, kind of bear... Although, some who do make the move to the C-heads (and their intakes), see 100+ whp additional.
Wondering how long these motors last ? Looking into building my block wanna make it 1000 hp strong and run at 600 how long do u think it will last (ball park #)
If it is built with these parts with this quality a long long time. 600 whp won't even be tickling a 1000 whp capable short block. Take care of it and use the best stuff and perform routine maintenence I think it would last as long/longer than any stock engine.
My 07 gt500 clean title with 100k was 16. Huge bang for the buck. I can't afford one of the 40-60 thousand dollar ones but fortunately I lucked up on an older gt500 which has just as much potential. You can build the iron block car cheaper they have the same heads. I'm gonna swap a gen3r engine runs strong and sounds smooth as hell...run it with the gen3r on stock motor for a bit around 750 then do a budget build on the short block and just use stock heads they can support alot of power even without porting and go with cams and headers at the same time. I'd like to make 800-900 to the tire pretty safely without taking the engine or the blower so a gen3r and a 1000 whp capable built iron 5.4 fits the bill perfectly. The early gt500s are big bang for the buck but prices have gone back up on them since I got mine early 2020. I seen several nice 100k mile cars for under 20 now you can't find one anywhere near that price anywhere even with over 100k. I've not seen any below the middle 20s lately the market is crazy. But I get what you're saying this is a more real world build for your average person. My build is like a cross between the two...its a gt500 5.4 4v which is basically same as the 5.8 but iron and smaller bore but ill be going with a little more basic approach like the 2v build minus all the fancy beadwork and stuff I'm going with the nsr cams they will be perfect for what I want.
I'd say the same . I would of gone with the Windsor iron 4.6 block . Maybe he should of proved his piont with the 4.6 3 vavle block . All the blocks are good . Just not as easy to get
I think iron blocks are plenty because they were used across every Lincoln,Mercury,f150,mustang,crown Vic,and others that used a v8,and they hold the same amount of horsepower.before windowing
It isnt just about weight the teksid is just as strong prob even stronger than the iron blocks based on everything I've seen. Teksid block is ideal on any 4.6 build imo if you can make it happen.
I debated the Gen 3 / 10R80 swap to do in this car. From a content perspective I figured it would have been cool to do a 2v build. Its always possible we could switch it up later or swap another car.
@@shotemup123 most people love the sound of the 2V I miss my 04 the 2V was the last true sounding muscle car to many. Coyote have a ricer sound to them they sound more foreign🤣 power is debatable everybody not sheep and followers and want a coyote cause that’s what everybody else doing just saying
While coyote swaps are awesome .... there is a place and a very big market for alot more 2 vavle stuff . It's been hugly misding for decade's. I'm sure this will peak the interest of alot of people . Even more so if yoy do hit you higher expectations. I'm all in .
I think saying a gen 3 will "hold" 1000 rwhp s a little misleading. Yea there are guys out there pushing 1000 on stock engines but let's be honest it isnt that common. I wouldn't say 1000 wheel is widely excepted as "safe" on a gen 3 coyote. However when he's done building this 2v it'll be 1000 whp that can run 8.50s consistently for 300-500 passes without needing a teardown (Jordan's exact words in this video btw) i dont think a stock gen 3 would get you that. Just my .02. Also I think a 2v build is cool because everybody treats it as a throwaway engine with no potential and that is just false.
Cool to see someone playing with a 2v after all these years
kool build. I am still running 11 year old headers on my twin turbo 2V.
What's size of turbos did u use??
@@Hollywoodhouse74 I have PTE 6466's.
Custom set up or..?
@@erict1144 They were made by the late HP Performance..
Love me some Two-Valve content! Thanks for supporting an under-appreciated but really popular motor!
Andrew, you and Mustang Lifestyle are an inspiration for our Mustang Club here in the Bahamas
This is freakin awesome timing! I just got my machined .020" over teksid block back 2 weeks ago and I had ordered the Modular Head Shop Wiseco 4v 6cc with K1 piston/rod combo in early December. Will be pulling my mach 1 engine as the donor for the build in 2 weeks. Keep the vids going!!! I was already using your gt500 build with Jordan for many similar tips on modulars.
Is a teksid block a must . Will the Windsor hold 1000hp
BTW it's about time some put some crazy imput in the 4.6 2 vavle .
Tons and tons of them out there .
I know I've seen the guy in the white mustang running crazy hp and ET and boost in a 2 vavle .
He stated previously a guy broke an iron block where he reused the bottom end. Windsors are the iron blocks. 👍
I'm stoked AF to see where this build goes. Jordan is the Man! 🤘
I’m definitely following this build. Getting anxious to make my 02 go fast
Man I’ve been telling everyone that for years, the 3v block will 1000hp like a champ. I’m interested in this build series. Can’t wait to see it
The teksid he has isnt the 3v block but the 3v block prob can handle 1000 too the teksid was in 96-99 cars I believe and is the strongest aluminum block ford ever made possibly the strongest block period ford has ever made. It is ideal on any 4.6build
The wap block is plenty strong. Andrew Lavender is proof.
Can anyone read anymore?
Can anyone read anymore?
@@madmod yea its strong too but the teksid is the strongest.
2v content you love to see it
Jordan the knowledge you have you should be in your 70’s not as young as you are. The attention to detail you have is fucking ridiculous and hopefully summer of 2121 we can chat and have a short block built for myself. Every time I watch a video with you extremely educational and has help me understand things much clearer. My back ground was in snowmobiles either a mono Block 3 cylinder or the badass domestic twin #polaris developed. When I move out of Maine to NC obviously to much need for a snowmobile down here and recently bought a mustang.
Current set up:
2.3 TVS, oil pump and crank sprocket, and other suspension mods.
My original goal and still is absolutely street car with a good bottom end , somewhere in the 750 category which I’m only 70 off that that focus on cooling and have a weekend warrior for back road fun or road course.
Thanks for the great content and the education
Happy New Year
MHS I need mine built .. also great info .. looking forward to seeing the car go down track ..
Another build series with MHS.....Very nice!
dang ! ive wondered if it was possible to do that with the intake valve seat.. .060 is huge when talking about ptv clearance
Keep these videos going I am literally listeing to everything!
So I should leave getting custom diamond pistons and go with the cheaper weisco
We can here you breathing Andrew from the camera mike haha!
Love to see that 6 speed cobra make great runs! Good luck on the 2V build Andrew. Should be a great engine with that teksid block.
It's not a Cobra, it's a Bullitt.
@@nobodyimportant69 Watch the video. I'm talking about the black stick shift COBRA that ran 8.9s.
The iron block in the terminator has nothing on the 96-01 cobra teksid. It holds the stock block record at 5.88 in the 1/4.
@@karlhopkins713 Teksid block is also 80 lbs lighter which is always an advantage.
@@karlhopkins713 yea the teksid is ideal on any 4.6 build its stronger and lighter you can't beat that
I would have started off with a 5.4L Lightning block since they share the same heads. Ive seen them make 850wtq with an old school Kenne Bell 2.1L on e85 10+ years ago.
I got my ported 2v heads from mhs last year and wish I would have done a the teksid block with them. Might start shopping for a teksid block or two and build another motor for my mustang and t-bird
Im putting 2v heads on a 5.4 GT500 block, will i need to drill that hole for it too???
Super smart dude
When is Jordan gonna offer long blocks again
Very informational! Love it. Love seeing videos like this, even if it’s 2v stuff🤣
Dude... I guess I missed something. I can't find any newer videos about this project.
Great to get info on what parts / strategy to use to rebuild my stock 2v.
I can't wait to see what kind of magic Jordan will do with this build, cause he absolutely killed it on the GT500 motor.
Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, and all the best for 2021.💪💪💪
Thanks buddy happy new year
V2 all the way let's go the under dog engine.
What did you guys do about the massive chin looking section on the outside of the intake valve in the chamber? Most guys shave them right off and only reduce the wave in the middle between the valves.
I gotta get ahold of this guy!....I'm going to be getting my teksid build for the mystic going here real soon!
I've been wanting to pick Jordan's brain on 2v heads. About bigger valves and pushing the limits. 2.02/1.52-1.64? Or what he's doing to really opening the heads up...
What after market Head would you recommend for a 351 Cleveland that's been stroked for a Street / Strip motor, Worried more about making Torque then Horse Power, will run some long tube headers with the motor to help with the Torque. Thanks I was looking at the Trick Flow Heads, but honestly not sure which heads would be best for making more Torque.
Good shit!
Holy shit this thing is gonna fly
6R80 trans works really cool
You could easily work a npi head to not only fit a bigger cam than Pi without valve clearance issues, spark plug threads arent a problem, thicker decks, and they can reach over 225cfm on the intake side without removal of the swirl dam which makes for a more efficient combustion chamber despite it being larger than the Pi.
That's why I love my npi svo heads
@@randolphniles2332 Even the 96+ Npi castings can be worked to make really good power. Those svo castings are fantastic heads. The idea of worsening the already less than ideal short turn on a PI intake port by raising the seat makes me think you would lose a ton of port volume and have a harder time getting the air to move around the valve. Nick McKenney from MHS had always had good things to say about a properly worked npi head.
When is he going to offer short blocks again for everybody besides just TH-camrs 😞
Jordan stays super busy. We are working on plans together to do some awesome stuff! He doesn't want to take on more engine builds and have extremely long wait times. I don't know when but hopefully soon he will take on more.
@@MustangLifestyleTV busy is a good thing .
Hi mr Jordan is a 3v block a better block to use for a 2v 4.6 with good 250 horse nitrous system.and boost line rods . I’ve been saving for yeas for my short block and tfs heads for high rpm and nitrous I would like to know what else you recommend .I would like high compression and big cam no tub or supercharger. Any advice I would be very greatful. Thank you. Jarod
would Ike to use a set f
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Is Jordan still NOT building customer engines???? Ive made several attempts to buy one of his 1000HP 4.6 4v short blocks to no avail. I reeally want to send him my heads and get back a long block (complete engine build)
Are u gone build the transmission or buy the 6speed that’s in the 2003-2004 cobra
I would do a built 3650 you can have it built for about a grand that makes the most sense cost wise.
How much power is 1mm really worth? Not the short turn or the ability to run a higher lift, but just the extra surface area?
Is this head you modified to your specs available? Not looking to go trick flow. Thanks Jordan
Jordan,
I didn't hear you mention anything about machining off those turds next to the spark plug boss's.
Do you machine those off?
Hell ya, the Bullitt is gonna be a monster/
You should go 6r80 or 10r80 in this. Would be cool to see a auto on the channel
hmmmmmm
What’s your bets bet if I want a 1000hp in my new edge shoukd I just coyote swap with boost
How does Jordan feel about cerakota coating the pistons and Rod's completely?
I have a twin turbo built 2v really interested in watching your build
I just this last spring got all my parts from jordan to replace the worn out romeo in my truck. But switched to a 5.4 block. Curious to see where this leads.
Bring it on
I bet it's a built 6r80 for the trans.
So he is building a turbo kit that he will eventually offer?
Im buying a stang sopn 2001 4.6 5speed what trubo kit would be good
Tekskid the strongest in the modular family ...And the modular record holder ...
Apparently filmed in a wind storm.
what pistons are you running
Bout time we got some 2v stuff,. Don't know why everyone don't build a 4 6 2v as cheap as they are, wish y'all woulda done a iron block
Because for some reason people think they can't make power this build is going to show alot of people how wrong they are. Just because they can't go much above 400 reliably on stock rods don't mean you can't build a wicked machine without a ton of money.
What turbo or turbos do you plan on running?
So it’s still a 2v or no? I’m confused, if the block doesn’t come from the actual 2v, and since you have an aftermarket one does it still count as a 2v? I’m bad at explaining, but let me know if you understand me or need a little bit of more explanation lol.
Still using 2v heads, so I’d consider it a 2v.
Its the same block from 96 to 01 cobras.
2v means 2 valves per cylinder. So yes it is still a 2v.
Yup . Only 2 vavle means only 2 vavles.
Being 2v dont have much to do with the block that is the kinda heads the car runs. It will still be a 4.6 2v except with an aluminum teksid block which is lighter and stronger.
Any word on standard size king main bearings being back in stock fellas?? Wiseco make a piston over 10.0:1 for a 98 teksid with b heads? Standard cylinder bore size
Well keep me posted, I got a 2010 gt and I need a full build
He makes me want to buy a motor from him lol.
How much did the build cost
Headphone user prepare yourself for heavy mic breathing lol
Just got my MHS Stage 2 Long Block and I'm pretty sure this was the block that was used LOL
How strong is the 05-09 aluminum 4.6s?
With forged internals it can handle plenty of power.
Hi my name is Michael Floyd and I wa wondering what could I do to push a 1999 cobra engine past 500 hp?
6r80 swap 🤫🤔
😀
They are doing crazy shit with stock 6R80 now .
Which video is part 2?
Hey, since you're talking about the older teskid blocks, has Jordan done any work on the 4V B-heads to work better for boosted applications? Wondering if he has any magic for those heads so they do just as well as the other 4v's (I.E. "C" heads). Heard they flow great but exhaust design is garbage and most people push for other heads.
Jordan can port anything. He has done a lot with b heads as well
@@MustangLifestyleTV With good results?
Look up accufab racign and John Mihovetz. They paired up and set the stock block record with a stock teksid block at 5.88 in the 1/4. The b heads are good for low 6s ported in the 1/4. They ran out of air when they reached 6.3-6.5 seconds in the 1/4.
@@karlhopkins713 I did read something about that years ago, but also their heads were so modified they didn't even resemble anything near B-heads. I guess if you have enough boost anything can make power.
I just can't find a solid thread/article of a ported B-head 'not only' flowing more than C-heads but having similar mid range. Most people just ditch the B-Heads to gain better street manners plus they respond better up to about 900whp - after this I guess you're just pumping in the boost! I just want to know if modified/reworked B-head can be a close contender against a mildly/ported C-head.
I read it too often, that unless you're going turbo'd they're a bit of a bear to make any actual power - 25psi from an F1A ~ 700hp, kind of bear... Although, some who do make the move to the C-heads (and their intakes), see 100+ whp additional.
Wondering how long these motors last ? Looking into building my block wanna make it 1000 hp strong and run at 600 how long do u think it will last (ball park #)
If it is built with these parts with this quality a long long time. 600 whp won't even be tickling a 1000 whp capable short block. Take care of it and use the best stuff and perform routine maintenence I think it would last as long/longer than any stock engine.
Why use a 2v head instead of 4v?
Would love a package for the 2v heads.
I’ve seen teksid blocks fail in those exact spots, mark rogers has one of the baddest mod motor cars out there
At the same time, Andrew Lavender runs a monster of a car on a WAP block with no problems. He's making a lot of steam to run the times he does.
This build appeals to me. I can’t afford a GT500. But I can afford a $10,000 2V.
My 07 gt500 clean title with 100k was 16. Huge bang for the buck. I can't afford one of the 40-60 thousand dollar ones but fortunately I lucked up on an older gt500 which has just as much potential. You can build the iron block car cheaper they have the same heads. I'm gonna swap a gen3r engine runs strong and sounds smooth as hell...run it with the gen3r on stock motor for a bit around 750 then do a budget build on the short block and just use stock heads they can support alot of power even without porting and go with cams and headers at the same time. I'd like to make 800-900 to the tire pretty safely without taking the engine or the blower so a gen3r and a 1000 whp capable built iron 5.4 fits the bill perfectly. The early gt500s are big bang for the buck but prices have gone back up on them since I got mine early 2020. I seen several nice 100k mile cars for under 20 now you can't find one anywhere near that price anywhere even with over 100k. I've not seen any below the middle 20s lately the market is crazy. But I get what you're saying this is a more real world build for your average person. My build is like a cross between the two...its a gt500 5.4 4v which is basically same as the 5.8 but iron and smaller bore but ill be going with a little more basic approach like the 2v build minus all the fancy beadwork and stuff I'm going with the nsr cams they will be perfect for what I want.
Once you’re done building the engine, I’ll bring my 2v over and let you drop it in. You can keep my engine.
Just to save 30 lbs ???
The teksid is superior to any factory ford block except for maybe the Ford gt 5.4. They're good for 3k+ on the stock block with just a .002 hone.
I'd say the same . I would of gone with the Windsor iron 4.6 block . Maybe he should of proved his piont with the 4.6 3 vavle block .
All the blocks are good . Just not as easy to get
@@karlhopkins713 3k hp on stock teksid or any other block is what you’re saying ?????
I think iron blocks are plenty because they were used across every Lincoln,Mercury,f150,mustang,crown Vic,and others that used a v8,and they hold the same amount of horsepower.before windowing
It isnt just about weight the teksid is just as strong prob even stronger than the iron blocks based on everything I've seen. Teksid block is ideal on any 4.6 build imo if you can make it happen.
So what this vid tells me is to get heads for my 3v, go to him
Yup
Aldo the 3 vavle blocks are the best in his opinion.
tell the camera man to stop breathing all over the camera..... Great stuff tho
Not first
Andrew rodbender sounds like a porn name
That’s going to be a bad car when you get finished.
Stock gen 3 coyote engine is less than $5000 on lasco auto parts and will hold 1000 horsepower. Theres no reason to build a 2v anymore.
I debated the Gen 3 / 10R80 swap to do in this car. From a content perspective I figured it would have been cool to do a 2v build. Its always possible we could switch it up later or swap another car.
@@MustangLifestyleTV I fully respect your decision. I still wanna do a coyote rod in a 2v and throw a tork tech kit on It and see it rip
@@shotemup123 most people love the sound of the 2V I miss my 04 the 2V was the last true sounding muscle car to many. Coyote have a ricer sound to them they sound more foreign🤣 power is debatable everybody not sheep and followers and want a coyote cause that’s what everybody else doing just saying
While coyote swaps are awesome .... there is a place and a very big market for alot more 2 vavle stuff . It's been hugly misding for decade's.
I'm sure this will peak the interest of alot of people . Even more so if yoy do hit you higher expectations.
I'm all in .
I think saying a gen 3 will "hold" 1000 rwhp s a little misleading. Yea there are guys out there pushing 1000 on stock engines but let's be honest it isnt that common. I wouldn't say 1000 wheel is widely excepted as "safe" on a gen 3 coyote. However when he's done building this 2v it'll be 1000 whp that can run 8.50s consistently for 300-500 passes without needing a teardown (Jordan's exact words in this video btw) i dont think a stock gen 3 would get you that. Just my .02. Also I think a 2v build is cool because everybody treats it as a throwaway engine with no potential and that is just false.
Jordan skipped puberty or what lol
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Good to see Jordan using a svo style valve, love my 2v svo heads
The breathing made me mad
All the breathing made me click off the video
Lots of info! Thanks. I'm still a 4.6 owner. You might like my project Twin Supercharged 4.6 2v. TH-cam RumbleCanada to see the build. Cheers